What Has Counterswapping Become In Overwatch 2

[@rainer9931]

Cycling through the whole tank roster chasing each other is one of the worst gaming experiences Ive had. The whole game goes by before you actually get to do anything

[@preezzz1115]

Just pick rein Stay rein If they go mauga, play more with your dos

[@austinhunt6566]

@@preezzz1115if they go mauga start bullying em. Say stuff like “you suck so much you had to go mauga”, “you bring dishonor upon your family”, etc. and the solo ult them every chance you get and tbag. Always. Tbag. The Mauga.

[@Sensei_gojo]

@@austinhunt6566bro, I did some shit like that where they disrespected the rein mirror by going orisa and I made inflammatory comments about how they “should have stayed rein” and how “orisa is cringe” and I got fucking banned from chatting. I need to get my endorsement up to 1 to chat again. Like is that really deserving of a chat ban? Calling someone cringe for playing orisa?

[@austinhunt6566]

@@Sensei_gojo either there was an error in the system, they reported you and the system banned you automatically, or you said something a lot worse that you’re not mentioning

[@austinhunt6566]

@@Sensei_gojo I’m not accusing you I’m just saying that it seems odd that it’d ban you for that

[@table2476]

My counter picking experience is just to keep counter picking until you get to the tank you actually wanted to play

[@tsoewoe]

or the enemy goes a tank you can handle being countered by, neither hog nor dva scares my winston

[@Taupe-]

@@tsoewoe as a Ram main, i can confirm that playing against Hog isn't scary at all

[@Bad3abdul]

​@@Taupe-exactly

[@Adventist1997]

This is why I just mirror, and then dominate them until they try to counter me. But I love mirroring on Dva only to have them counter me with Zar and still lose to me.

[@skandol8650]

@@Taupe-Hog is a counter for Ram?

[@marginis]

My preferred strategy is to pick a tank I want to play, and then just stay on that tank and suffer, like god intended.

[@YT_fudgie001]

Me on ball then they go Sombra, Mei, Ana, Hog, Zen. Like bro how ass do you gotta be and my team is like “WhErEs oUR tAnK?!!?”

[@phantomflame0658]

@@YT_fudgie001 Nah bro they only look at stats but not notice how their entire team comp is anti-tank and using abilities on you on cooldown. But yup it's always "mtd" "tank gap" "tank diff" "report feeding/trolling" "tank inting". I've turned the game off for good until we get 6v6 again

[@pspspspspspspspspspspspspspss]

I believe this is what Reinhardt tells himself everyday when he wakes up, “suffer, like god intended”

[@bobothebob4716]

I gave in. After a year of this BS, I just instantly counterswap. Even if it means jumping off the map. Time to just make everyone suffer until they actually change it. 83% win rate over 50 games so far. It feels so scummy, but it's the only way I can think of to cause actual change.

[@azseal2669]

This was my strategy before i took my month-long break. I had a rotation of 3-4 tanks I would play and I only swapped to counter the DPS or their support line-up, because no offence to most tank players, but I know that I'm not dying because of whatever you're doing. Unless you're one of them weirdos who wastes their ult on the other tank just to kill them. *looking at you, Orisa players*

[@thewanderingtradesman5326]

The life of doom: Get 2 kills, enemy team immediately swaps to orisa sombra cass zen ana

[@sethviews]

Glad I’m not the only one. My favorite is when they do this and still get bodied 🤣

[@Alexander-nd5de]

You actually don't mind having a zen vs a doom. He can't defend himself as well unless the core comes to back him up

[@fredrick42572]

So true, as a new doom main this happens all the time.

[@solarscreams2447]

They came out of spawn on sombra ana….

[@TheRealJayRican]

same thing with hog. they quick to go to zen or ana when i get couple picks

[@CheckersMcGavern]

I appreciate the Donkey Kong Country soundtrack for the Winston gameplay. Very nice lol

[@syberfang7890]

Winton

[@AlphaXY13]

counter-swapping so hard that your entire team C9s trying to fight a single doomfist is the epitome of OW2 at the moment man

[@mcl4549]

I feel people don't realize that DPS and Support counterswaps mess you up way more than the enemy tank counterswaping

[@milkyym8891]

As a Tracer, Cass messes me up big time. More than fucking Torb imo

[@samanthasoares4806]

There's way more counter play in situations like that, and you have another dps or healer to help compensate, meanwhile zarya makes it so you can't play 80% of the tanks. Tanks are the tempo setters and one forces the other to play a certain way or lose, tracer can bait flash, he's not gunna hit every shot and if he does he deserves to win against a tracer that should be hard af to hit to begin with, when bap and kiri exist there's no such thing as countering supports, sorry.

[@ReefDaBeef-qu7uu]

You can hear the distaste in his voice when he said sombra lol

[@williamholthaus3473]

The final sentence at the end of the video perfectly sums up the experience right now

[@GnarlyMystery420Gaming]

i couldn't even tell this was quick play lmao

[@roodog1]

The first game isnt

[@heiko2255]

6v6 Playtest Waiting Room

[@EnjoyerOfCats7]

Even my friends who I introduced to Overwatch when OW2 came out hate tanking 😭

[@Roach_Toast]

Can't wait for dva and Winston to be diving me as support :)

[@heiko2255]

@@Roach_Toast Oh no, the Dva that has 200HP less, 1.5s less Matrix Duration, less damage and 5 Tank passives less is diving you with the Winston who also loses 100HP, less damage and 5 Tank Passives Youll be fine, like every OW1 Player was if they were decent

[@Adventist1997]

@@Roach_Toast You are part of the problem... 😊

[@dkelrk1]

@@Roach_Toast I'm sorry but lets not pretend that you and 1 other healer losing to 1 tank is not the support's fault.

[@pyier8]

This is a downward spiral. With 5v5, people understand that deny the sole enemy tank is a viable strategy. So if players wanna tryhard or really want to win, the full team counters you and play is a nightmare. Blizzard see that, and decide to overbuff tanks, so the tanks could play again. But now tanks are so strong, that full counterpick is THE main way to win. Even QP is a nightmare too because so many players try hard here. Is counterswapping the main issue of OW2 ? If you think so, just wait for 6v6.

[@yuri990]

As a t500 support player who just wants to play some chill games on my off role with friends counter sealing on tank is cancer. If I do anything remotely good they swap. This used to not be the case is just annoying and I don’t want to play the role.

[@austinmoe4865]

Man, it's crazy how you can pick a hero at the start of the game and immediately know what the other team is going to play by the end of it

[@Adventist1997]

If I start with Dva, they typically switch between Zar, Rein and Sigma. Meanwhile, I just stick with Dva and watch them scramble to figure out how to counter me 😂

[@jermu8706]

@@Adventist1997 dva cant be countered atm, will statcheck every tank. she just is too overloaded atm. has been since s11 midpatch. easily the best dva has ever been in the history of overwatch.

[@Adventist1997]

@@jermu8706 That actually explains why Zar hasn't countered me in my games 🤔

[@jermu8706]

@@Adventist1997 yeah, could be worse. ill take dva being too strong over the mauga and orisa shit we have seen in the past.

[@nahdontevenstart]

@@jermu8706are you kidding me especially with the added nerfs to armored characters DVA is the least scary she’s been in a while, if she improperly dives 2/3 stacks will destroy her and she absolutely can be counter picked between moira symmetra zarya etc wtf are you on about

[@gabrieloocasio]

Worst part is the dps start talking shit if you don't swap in .5 seconds

[@brandonray4493]

6v6 can't get here fast enough I had my team wanting me to counter-swap a mercy pocketed mauga. Supports wouldn't swap to Anna, DPS wouldn't focus mercy. My fault though... tank dif 😢

[@Shiftarus]

I dont get how another tank changes your situation much, its just more of whats already happening

[@solarscreams2447]

Queen, sig, orisa, dva? If you lost because of mauga it is your fault

[@Adventist1997]

@@solarscreams2447 Not if they can't get the mercy with Dva. She’s not exactly easy to hit when she can bounce around and you have an insane bullet spread and a constant Zen orb on her. If you think going for Zen is always easy then think again. If you don't time your matrix right, he will demech you before you can take him out. Your DPS NEEDS to help out with that. So if the enemy Tank and both of their Support are on you while your DPS is still not getting elims, they are the problem.

[@Whatacomedian_]

Its a team game. I watch replays. Most times its crappy dps. ESPECIALLY ON CONSOLES.​@@solarscreams2447

[@romajiin8161]

@@ShiftarusHow does another tank not change the situation? Overwatch is a team based game where the team has to work together. Most of the time matches are decided on who the better Tank player is

[@Crankyfiber]

Honestly, if they went back to the 222 system counter swapping would be much harder and since each role has a specific passive, the game might be easier to balance 🤔

[@Mexican00b]

it will just become goats or dive

[@KiraMahMan]

@@Mexican00b goats is impossible in role lock

[@W4KK1]

@@KiraMahMandouble shield sure sounds like fun

[@peqnii3404]

@@W4KK1double shield with who? the main tanks in double shield was sigma and orisa. orisa doesn't have a shield. rein can't attack when his shield is up. and ram's shield lasts a whole 4 seconds. double shield would not be an issue like it used to be.

[@W4KK1]

@@peqnii3404 winston has a shield, sigma has a shield and double shield does not mean both tanks using their shields at the same time. It means the there is always a shield up at any given moment. In ow1 the tanks would rotate around using both shields and when both of their shields would go down bap’s lamp would be used, essentially stagnating team fights. Sometimes symms ult would be used as well. It wasn’t fun

[@lumines.6622]

Every time I play Winton and do even moderately well in a team tight the enemy team instantly swaps out to like Bastion, Reaper, Mauga, or Hog to ruin my fun these days.

[@metroid5003]

don't get me wrong but the first i do if i see a winston is to go mauga and mostly it's not bcz of a winston player but rather bcz of their whole team comp...... winston, sombra, bastion (mei), ana and mercy as example

[@MikeRetroModz]

The state of counter watch is honestly depressing

[@davidraviv9331]

ive played about 10 games of tank, the enemy team fully countered me every single game and even broke the rein duel sadge

[@jermu8706]

you get countered every single game because your role is overpowered since s11 midpatch. it is what it is.

[@bradenhetzel874]

When they made the change to 5v5 they wanted to make it so queue times were more even obviously but they also wanted to make it so each player had more impact consequently it also made it so countering(especially switching to a counter for the enemy tank) has way more impact now than in 6v6

[@metroid5003]

no they just wanted to reduce the queue times.... as that was the highest complain in overwatch 1.... the rest is a result of bad decisions made from the dev team... and has nothing to do with 5v5 the first wrong decision was to make a heal penalty if you get damaged from a dps so that a tank would not be healed enough and be killed immediately.... the second was making the tank passive for knockback resistance 50% and so on.....

[@ziggos9810]

From Goty to Counterwatch what coprate greed,false promises and lack of soul does!

[@azseal2669]

Imma be real; I took a month long break from this game and when I came back I loaded up qp with some friends and had a buddy on tank, started on Doom. (You know what's coming). Won the first team fight. Entire enemy team swapped. Orisa + Sombra + Cass + Ana + Zen. That is the casual, non-serious, gamemode in 2024. They ended up C9'ing to kill our friend who'd swapped to Rein by the end of it (and promptly got them to swap Bastion + Mei). I unironically still believe comp is still the most chill place to exist if you want to actually have fun.

[@thane9]

Counterswapping assumes one HUGE point. That you're equally proficient with all characters. There are no magic buttons that allow one character to insta kill another, there are no "hard counters" in that way. And frankly the most toxic part of the game is people who just won't shut up about changing characters to "counter" when they don't know how good/bad you are at them. If you feel you need to swap to improve the chances of the team winning, go for it, and if you don't like that about the game then yeah, that sucks. But everyone needs to shut up about others needing to swap when they don't know if it'd really help or not.

[@LadyVineXIII]

If your team is willing to either enable you or counter your counters, then it can be fine. The problem is getting a team that will back their tank.

[@neya7902]

One tricks have little to no value in OW2 anymore. So it doesn't matter if you're significantly better on that hero and majorly outskill the other tank, now in OW2. Counterswapping is too strong.

[@snvcchs]

That's the problem. You don't have to be that efficient with the counterswap for it to still work extremely well. You can be dogshit but if you swap to Reinhardt, Brig and Mei when I play Zarya it still will be very hard to do good against. To the point the less skilled player wins just based off the swap. This wasn't as prevalent in OW1 because we had a second tank to make up for the other tanks weaknesses.

[@LadyVineXIII]

@snvcchs Hard countering is honestly an issue in all roles, but it definitely hits tanks the hardest. I like Flats 7vs7 proposal. 3 DPS, 2 Sups, and 2 Tanks is probably the best balance given both the need for role synergy and the popularity of DPS.

[@Keyourasa]

even assuming what ur saying is true which its not but thats not the point. the issue still is a massive ordeal in any lobby outside of metal ranks. none of the characters are really hard to play sure u can always improve ur whatever character but ull always have a strong character if ur base level of play is high. take widow my main is mercy/kiri my widow is still more than competent even at masters cause the difference in the characters goals are shoot head with sniper or shoot head with kunai. all that to say counter swapping is a huge issue and the "skill" difference per character isnt that high esp in higher ranks.

[@BeardedBoosh]

The DK 64 music coming on right when he said “It’s Winton time” is perfect

[@FailoReachForge]

Kinda crazy to swap Winston to counter the Zarya after first fight and then bitch at the other tank counter swapping. You're not different lol.

[@sprunk]

Was actually surprised the enemy tank stayed Zarya for so long afterwards, props to that guy.

[@profozpin227]

Did you watch the video?

[@ImFromFortnite]

Its your precious 5v5 format flatz ^^

[@AngelValentinRivera]

The worst part is when is a mirror tank fight first death and swap to counter. Broooooooooooo

[@Adventist1997]

I love when that happens because I usually still dominate them.

[@bdo333]

I respect no one backing out of the Rein mirror

[@Adventist1997]

@@bdo333 Same, but I win those most of the time, so they usually switch and then say "Tank diff" after countering me.

[@bdo333]

@@Adventist1997 God forbid we have fun playing a game. Sick and tired of Orisa, Mauga, and Sombra every match.

[@Adventist1997]

@@bdo333 I'm tired of random typing "skibady" in chat then throwing my games. Is there a new trend to destroy the comp matches?

[@jpsachse]

To be fair, when I see a Doomfist on the enemy team, I‘m also counterswapping as soon as it‘s clear they are even remotely capable to use the character. Playing against a good Doom or Ball is just so annoying. Being able to stop them in their tracks lets me play the game.

[@kennydodson3511]

my friend and i played a game yesterday where a duo lucio soldier spent the whole game chasing me down as hanzo/widow that my i just ran away and wasted time so my team won fighting 4v3 the whole game!

[@MinoriGaming]

This was the inevitably result of teh 5v5 role-lock paradigm Blizzard locked OW2 in. With only 1 tank allowed, that tank always has to be irregularly high-impact, and thus the game naturally becomes tank-centric. When the game becomes that tank-centric, it is in players’ best interest to focus their efforts on invalidating the enemy tank, thus counterswapping. Counterswaps have always been a thing since Day 1 of Overwatch, but there was never a time where doing it was so prominent because players were never so heavily incentivised to do so. They are *now* because if you full-team counterswap and wipe the enemy tank, you basically get a free teamfight off that in a lot of cases. Role Queue and 5v5 are the roots of this problem.

[@joedouglas6968]

One suggestion to fix the counterswap problem i think is they could make it so if you swap you cant switch for a certain amount of time or deaths, means whoever counterswaps first gets punished by the other team doing the same thing.

[@TheUnseenKrab]

This is why i open queue so i can play doom in peace.

[@overyourmind851]

If you cant play the hero you want to play in a "hero shooter" game, whats the point.

[@friendlyfire3412]

This is quickplay btw.

[@terrariku2010]

Unappreciated role queue mystery heroes casually having a solution to make counterswapping less of an issue.

[@orc3266]

At the cost of queue time, why not just make a guaranteed 1 character on each role

[@aidenmeislitzer7774]

No that mode is fucking ass, what’s the point of mystery heroes if you want to queue up for a certain role, just play regular qp, that’s basically mystery heroes already

[@ayla1219]

The og mystery heroes was fun but also super annoying when the enemy team would get all tanks and yours would get only DPS and supports 😭

[@anonymall]

Knock backs on Winston really make no sense, Brig bonks you TOWARDS the place you're leaping to, and then REMOVES your momentum? Come on, Blizzard.

[@GMDre]

its always nice to see you get a taste of my life as a doom main :) you did good

[@mariomartin1999]

I for one have 6 posters of who to counter swap to in rotations incase I need it I just look over and I know who

[@thornikeseyferth3549]

The worst one I had was when I was on Junkertown and I was playing rein on defense and the game had just started. I see the enemy walking out of spawn on Dva, when he directly turns around and switches to Orisa not 3 seconds after the game had started...

[@warpedreality6428]

The worst part is in overwatch 1 you could still just outplay the counter swap. Now if the whole team switches to counter (which they do lol) You cant outplay that

[@davidpap5369]

I would be fine with just the enemy tank countering me. But when the entire enemy switches to counter my mediocre Rein shenenigans, then we got a problem.

[@bdo333]

I just wanna charge swing hammer and have fun

[@Smango1]

Does anyone know the music at 9:25 ? It feels like it might be from Pokémon but I’m not sure

[@theoriginaldaddy7812]

I played a game last night where I would say the tank me were of equal skill level but every tank I picked he’d even run back to spawn to pick the counter.. I decided to take a break from overwatch.

[@geekygirlgaymesalot736]

even in the metal ranks it be the same

[@gamist8166]

"what has counter swapping become?" It became what blizzard leaves it at, dogshit

[@moth5414]

The Brig in the first match had rent due YESTERDAY.

[@elijahperry3809]

going out of your way to not only leave your team unsecured and jumping off the map just to counter pick is WICKED work

[@atomica7673]

so many games I start off as winston, I dive the enemy squishies and continiously kill them and they just go reaper, bastion, brig and hog and it's joever

[@Nic-q6g]

Love the dk music when you switched winston

[@mr.froggy2899]

Bro instigated the swapping and calles the other guy dumb😭😭

[@scurbbb]

Genuine question here, not criticism, but why do higher level players always capture points late? I understand makijg space is important but around 2:03 Flats was in Primal against the whole enemy team and none of his teammates went to capture the point whilst he distracted and it led to the Genji being able to contest when they almost captured?

[@ruy_u]

It's the inevitable 5v5 problem. Tanks will constantly switch which makes the experience awful for everyone involved. If you get countered as damage or support the other damage and support can peel for you and you can pop off, but no one can peel off for a tank lol.

[@Lynkah]

I think tank damage should be reduced, but they should get cooldown reduction based on damage taken. Like every 10% of their Hp they take, they get like 5% off the CD of an ability. Getting a quarter of your CD off when you get chunked by 50% would be kinda fun. Would make them more tanking focused and less damage focused too.

[@TheRealDeclou]

8:26 bro just experienced the average doomfist moment and didn't start tweaking props

[@michaels9595]

They should make a lock in mode. No swapping. Play your best character for that map or strat ahead. Then beat the enemy team by your hero mastery and team play. I'd love this in qp

[@Shiftarus]

But then somebody would just be forced to spend the entire game in a horrible matchup just because they lost a prematch game of rock paper scissors

[@michaels9595]

@@Shiftarus we don't think like that. It's an opportunity to shine lol

[@phantomflame0658]

@@Shiftarus You can make it like League where people pick their hero's one by one or in pairs. That was you can somewhat counter. But the issue of tank is still there. Cause you decide to pick dva first, and the enemy picks zarya, and you can't do anything. And there are no items or builds, you're stuck with the kit. In League every champion can counter eachother in some way because they can build different items. While in OW it's just champ diff and there's absolutely nothing you can do. So either way, I agree horrible idea

[@Invictus_OW]

@@Shiftarus If the balancing team shared more than half a braincell collectively, his idea might have some potential...

[@FusioN_764]

LOVE THE FZERO THEME SONG!!!

[@holtzheimer]

Unironically, the new mystery heroes role queue is the best way to play tank right now.

[@luca377bazooka]

those rank games were crazy man

[@paxton3402]

The change to DK music when swapping to Winton had me dead lmao

[@sonderbain]

Counter swapping sucks but remember, its not the players fault. Its blizzards for making it so strong.

[@Bad3abdul]

If you can't win your counter you shouldn't one trick I love counter swap because it tests my skill

[@MeepFromSpongebob]

​@@Bad3abdulthere is no skill involved with picking the right hero

[@phantomflame0658]

@@Bad3abdul Worst take I've read today

[@Bad3abdul]

@@MeepFromSpongebob so if you're a dva who plays into zarya counter(numbani, Hollywood second point)and wins that's what?

[@Bad3abdul]

@@phantomflame0658 if you believe so ok

[@Cx39_]

I genuinely think we either need 6v6 back, or we need to make it so you can ban certain characters, like each person can choose a character to ban for both teams, or make it so you only have like 3-5 swaps per game so that you have to choose wisely and think if its worth it to swap

[@themage1016]

We won’t see widow, sombra in teams lol

[@aniqzikry]

They always do this is QP too its soo cringe.... I can never truly enjoy playing the heroes I want

[@Chara1726]

This is the reason i dont even want to touch comp. This is just straight up a game of rock paper scissors.

[@cc-corruptor4492]

I just wanna play the hero i like, but thats pretty damn hard when they choose something that makes my hero essentially unplayable

[@erikmeissner6492]

Who knew buffing tanks would lead to more counter swapping. It’s either you do or you get rolled.

[@Mythy001]

or the title could be: "The counterswapping situation is crazy"

[@victorotaviocardoso959]

They should add a limit to how many times you can swap to a different hero Like I dunno, five times? It would force teams to actually think before they assemble a comp or strategize variations and counterplay

[@SweeneyII]

Wouldn't really, would just punish you for not going in as a full stack, Is it a team limit? Per person? And if either, what happens when you're out and you're team is now just obectively bad vs theirs because you swapped first?

[@RelexGG]

I don’t really mind the tank counterpicking me, I love playing winton but at some point most teams go bastion, reaper or torn and just run after me the whole game and I lose even if I still play well and don’t die to them

[@sluep]

Honestly I like to think I'm a pretty okay Doom player sometimes, but seeing you play Doom (a character you claim to not know how to play well) is interesting to look at. Because my "playing well" and your "not playing well" for a character is still leagues off in terms of skill and gameplay. There's a lot of things I wouldn't think to try as Doom that you do

[@firstgradewumbo5607]

Warioware while playing Doomfist went hard af

[@digim3l]

@ 8:44 welcome to the squishiest tank that gets counter swapped THE most in the game

[@gavincurtis7991]

From now on everytime i win a fight on tank im going to retreat to spawn to counter swap their counter swap

[@MrMyth-mm5by]

Love your vids Flats

[@4zureSapphire]

name of your next video "Tank is a Stressing Experience"

[@therebelfrogy9287]

People love playing counterwatch

[@gvttz]

Had a game yesterday where the enemy team kept switching characters to counter me and a tracer until they decided to go 4 tanks 😂😂 we lost but it was the most funniest thing ever

[@TheWraithSummoner]

Before the midseason patch I could pick Rein into Orisa and demolish. Now it's back to being tossed around and exploding.

[@madamecaroline8977]

Huge W for playing bayonetta ost

[@Blueishbunny2296]

this is one of the many reasons i like paladins you cant swap mid game

[@blitzdactyl]

The 6v6 trial period can't come sooner

[@leui.doesnotexist]

see this is the one reason i enjoyed 6v6 a little more, team comps were just much more interesting where as now they feel stale and countering is much more shallow than what it was before

[@unklenade2453]

I love the DK SONG SWITCH on winton W haha

[@not_3than]

the queen jumping off the map to counterswap zarya is enough evidence that counterswapping is broken

[@DarkBrandon77]

Everything was wrong with 5v5. They almost won not because of skill just counter picking.

[@Bluefire6567]

If you don’t want to counter swap when they come out on a counter you go something with a neutral match up and then just hope they stay the same hero

[@rooenart1346]

Getting flamed for swapping in QP has been WILD. Like no I'm not going to sit on a hero that is getting hard HARD countered to the point where I'm 1-6 for 10 mins of hell??? But also It's boring as hell to just keep swapping. I hate rolling out as widow, they swap to Sombra, I go Cass they go 76, I'll go Junk they go Pharah. 90% of our play time is just swapping. Never ulting, never having fun.

[@Kogobean]

i hear that Let's Dance Boys from the Bayonetta 3 soundtrack. joking aside, counterswap is so annoying. i just want to play some Rein but enemy team goes 'No Fun Allowed'.

[@Balsadar22]

Ngl the Bayonetta music during the mid battle took me wayy off guard, unless it’s like a smash bros playlist lol, love all the vids tho

[@jaqqqqqqqqq6049]

this is why i dont play tank anymore, you need to be good on all of them man

[@eggman5130]

U did it first 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@assimilater-quicktips]

They rolled out on Zarya

[@Akira.0.]

They also killed themselves to counter play, he is swapping for the dps too

[@douan6363]

@@Akira.0. he killed himself on rein so they wouldnt get ult charge from him

[@assimilater-quicktips]

@@douan6363 in a fight that was lost vs abandoning a fight that wasn’t

[@FlippingMiner]

6:27 bro says it, it’s not cuz of the tank it’s cuz he wasn’t getting any value as the other heroes so he made a swap to get value, not to counter

[@stormagedden785]

What would happen if there was a 3 swap limit and then was locked into that character for the rest the game?

[@iceddiamondsyt]

Thankfully, in low elo QP, there is no counter swaping. After their tank dies, they just got either Mauga, Orisa, or Hog with no shame. And then think they did something

[@fishyboy2140]

I’m in low elo qp (too scared of comp toxicity) and I just play rammatra. Super annoying when the second the enemy starts losing they swap to orisa.

[@Cattos]

"What has counterswapping become" and its just flats aggro swapping

[@spry9953]

today I played against orisa, torb, reaper, bap, zen. most miserable time on tank ever as a diamond

[@dramthehurricane]

god this just continues to remind me why I stopped playing. all the cc and I can't play majority of the tanks I want to because of it.

[@immanuelcooper1355]

New background music finally??

[@THATMWGUY]

Hey flats love your content keep it up broo 👍👍👍

[@nathanmundy3343]

I don’t even play comp I haven’t in 3-4 seasons. It happens almost every quickplay game. I try to play rein and jq and the other tanks never wanna pick a hero and stick it. Winning after swapping more than once or twice is a loss in my book. You lost time of your life and don’t get to play your favorite heros

[@THEROFLFACTORY1]

Bro you were the one initiating the counterswap