What Hillary Clinton really thinks

Hillary Clinton’s theory of politics is unfashionable, but she doesn’t care.
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On page 239 of What Happened, Hillary Clinton reveals that she almost ran a very different campaign in 2016. Before announcing for president, she read Peter Barnes’s book With Liberty and Dividends for All, and became fascinated by the idea of using revenue from shared natural resources, like fossil fuel extraction and public airwaves, alongside revenue from taxing public harms, like carbon emissions and risky financial practices, to give every American “a modest basic income.”
Her ambitions for this idea were expansive, touching on not just the country’s economic ills but its political and spiritual ones. “Besides cash in people’s pockets,” she writes, “it would be also be a way of making every American feel more connected to our country and to each other.”
This is the kind of transformative vision that Clinton was often criticized for not having. It’s an idea bigger than a wall, perhaps bigger even than single-payer health care or free college. But she couldn’t make the numbers work. Every version of the plan she tried either raised taxes too high or slashed essential programs. So she scrapped it. “That was the responsible decision,” she writes. But after the 2016 election, Clinton is no longer sure that “responsible” is the right litmus test for campaign rhetoric. “I wonder now whether we should’ve thrown caution to the wind, embraced [it] as a long-term goal and figured out the details later,” she writes.
What Happened has been sold as Clinton’s apologia for her 2016 campaign, and it is that. But it’s more remarkable for Clinton’s extended defense of a political style that has become unfashionable in both the Republican and Democratic parties. Clinton is not a radical or a revolutionary, a disruptor or a socialist, and she’s proud of that fact. She’s a pragmatist who believes in working within the system, in promising roughly what you believe you can deliver, in saying how you’ll pay for your plans. She is frustrated by a polity that doesn’t share her “thrill” over incremental policies that help real people or her skepticism of sweeping plans that will never come to fruition. She believes in politics the way it is actually practiced, and she holds to that belief at a moment when it’s never been less popular.
This makes Clinton a more unusual figure than she gets credit for being: Not only does she refuse to paint an inspiring vision of a political process rid of corruption, partisanship, and rancor, but she’s also actively dismissive of those promises and the politicians who make them.
On Tuesday morning, I sat down with Clinton for an hour on the first official day of her book tour. It is a cliché that stiff candidates become freer, easier, and more confident after they lose - see Gore, Al - but it is true for Clinton. Jon Stewart used to talk of the “buffering” you could see happening in the milliseconds between when Clinton was asked a question and when she answered; the moments when she played out the angles, envisioned the ways her words could be twisted, and came up with a response devoid of danger but suffused with caution. That buffering is gone.
In our conversation, she was as quick and confident as I’ve seen her, making the case for her politics without worrying too much about the coalitional angles or the possible lines of offense. And she says plenty that can, and will, offend. In our discussion, she lit into Bernie Sanders’s single-payer plan, warned that Donald Trump is dragging us down an authoritarian path, spoke openly of the role racism and white resentment played in the campaign, and argued that the outcome of the 2016 election represented a failure of the media above all. This was Clinton unleashed, and while she talked about what happened, it was much more interesting when she talked about what she believed should have happened.
- Ezra Klein
Editor-in-chief, Vox
This interview was recorded on September 12, 2017.
Thumbnail image by Kainaz Amaria.
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[@waxilliamladrian]

Literally 40 seconds in, she starts talking about Andrew Yang's central platform of UBI based on Alaska's model and I'm genuinely shocked that I've never seen this interview

[@waxilliamladrian]

Should clarify that she isn't talking about a data check or automation, just specifically the idea of implementing that kind of UBI.

[@90Outside]

She’s talking about a 2000 yearly check from the government that isn’t the same as universal basic income.

[@ugp301]

goes to show how bad the policy is

[@Chris-wq3pe]

@@90Outside yep it's absolutely nothing like a UBI in either a monetary or social sense. It's just an annual handout. A UBI could end welfare, it could raise standards of living in a permanent fashion, it could helpt o liftt people out of poverty. one off handouts do nothing.

[@garrettgrant1264]

@@Chris-wq3pe "an annual handout" ... why is this a handout but a monthly check isn't? lol

[@somebody2619]

I admire that VOX didn't turn off their comment section despite knowing what a cesspool it will become.

[@holatio4028]

+franklin nguyen they dont do that, and they should be praised for it

[@sudevsen]

some body cause these videos exist to generate controversy and drive traffic It's op-ed clickbait.

[@AndreiTache]

+Sudev Sen But comments don't drive traffic...

[@rz1974]

they do actually, youtube values any interaction with videos, even dislikes

[@1224chrisng]

ratings i don't think so but comments definitely

[@PinkSummer1017]

I wonder how many democrats knew this about her support of UBI. I wonder how many democrats knew Obama was supportive and proposing UBI too.

[@a7ukgc8x9m4h]

If you dont know, google andrew yang

[@Mrjonnyjonjon123]

Proposing is one thing, Being Vocal about and actually having a plan (and actually doing it) is another thing. Obama being supportive does nothing without action

[@dashawnduncan1121]

Coming back to this in 2020 for comfort. Oh what could’ve been 😪....

[@JaKommenterar]

Don’t worry so much, regards from 2021

[@organizedchaos4559]

I think if she was actually sincere on these ideas and actually got them implemented then it could have been an interesting and good country to live in. Too bad we are stuck with Trump and Biden now.

[@user-jg5eu7uj4k]

Wait theres actual people who think that she would of been good? What?

[@robot-he6nq]

@@organizedchaos4559 Joe Biden isn’t that bad.

[@vitothepizzaguy7475]

It would have been heaven

[@josegabrielsilva5221]

Yes, you can hate her. But you can't say she's is not smart, well-articulated and prepared.

[@Infamous41]

Lol

[@universeturtle]

Unless it's a concession speech lol

[@Infamous41]

So was Ted Bundy

[@OlderG0ds]

Wasn't prepared for the election

[@dainn0668]

SHE'S A ROBOT

[@noahjenkins5008]

Fun Fact: No one has finished this video yet

[@jonasuj]

That fact was absolutely hilarious.

[@samthenerd9619]

wow its true, lol and look at all the hate

[@Hazzard0]

I came for the comments!

[@halfevilwelding5268]

NjCurly66 I'm almost done

[@thelocalcommie916]

NjCurly66 I just went to the comment section then left :)

[@amylovemyart]

The lighting is so on point.

[@123Queful]

and she looks like crap i didnt know she looked that bad

[@Jkstolz]

Huh What It HAS to be. She won't talk unless it's on point and she gets to choose the questions.

[@chocosmoke0208]

rofl ty u 2 great comment

[@williamjoyce4313]

I would have preferred if they had kept her light turned off.

[@bigassdude7856]

Even tho shes very offpoint

[@johnkevindayao3893]

25:00 the passion she had when she talked about children's health insurance program, that's the passion I think would've helped her more if she's showed that during the debates

[@justing307]

Umm. You probably one of those people who would want her to be home cooking cookies when she was a First Lady.

[@blueatillipops2634]

I guess that's the passion she also had when authorising the Iraq war leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children

[@davidjones3165]

She's gotta keep her victims healthy.

[@phongpham1058]

@@blueatillipops2634 Trump is no better on foreign policy

[@cup_check_official]

oh boi, the comment section is gonna be crazy. Look at that like/dislike ratio. We have a betting session going on here. All spectators come here

[@pollymahone9392]

Tell Me This yup and it's only been 2 minutes

[@dogukancakmakci9419]

Tell Me This there isn't enough popcorn in the world for the spectacle in this comment section

[@Brandon-es8nu]

Believe me It's going to be YUUGE

[@Euronjuusto999]

They just dislike when they saw her name

[@cup_check_official]

223 likes 214 dislikes. If my videos had this ratio i would be having a heart attack lol

[@andresmercadocanales1003]

There are people who hate her and people who love her, but anyone who doesn't see how smart this woman is doesn't have a good grasp on reality

[@akrenwinkle]

Aside from Goldman Sachs, Northrup Grumman, General Electric, etc., who loves her?

[@derekarmstrong3590]

She lost to a reality show host with literally zero experience and credibility who spouted off the most blatantly racist comments imaginable. She’s not THAT smart.

[@SJTowne]

@@derekarmstrong3590 She won 3 million more votes than Trump, and the most votes of ANY candidate in ANY election since the beginning of the nation. The Electoral College is the ONLY reason she wasn't inaugurated in 2017.

[@CherCherico]

You don't have any grass of reality ... she is a liar.

[@stein6707]

@@derekarmstrong3590 that just means that a large part of the American voter base isn't THAT smart

[@sana_fanboi]

I’m not interested in politics, not American. I just clicked because she looked like she would say interesting stuff

[@ahmedob.17]

True!

[@alexanderguerre1]

I always like hearing Hillary Clinton speaking about policy. Unfortunately, she didn't do it enough in 2016. She was more focused on talking about Donald Trump. That was disappointing to me because I think she had some good policy ideas. Also, I don't like it when she tries to blame Bernie Sanders for her defeat. I know the primary was very frustrating for her, Bernie was a tough opponent and wasn't always nice to her. But she needs to take responsibility too. As soon as he lost the Democratic primary, Bernie Sanders fully supported Hillary Clinton and campaigned for her until the last day, so he did his job.

[@tommyodonovan3883]

Hillary lost because she was disliked more than Trump.

[@Colgruv]

@@tommyodonovan3883 Hillary was never once "more disliked" than Trump, unless you're referring to the following demographics: - Among white people - Among men - Among Republicans

[@ManuelCruz-tn4do]

@@tommyodonovan3883 She won the popular vote tho! Donald Trump was more "disliked" than Hillary Clinton. Its just that young people in flip states did not want to wait 4+ hours in lines to vote since they felt Clinton would have this thing in the bag.

[@organizedchaos4559]

@@tommyodonovan3883 she was disliked but not more disliked than Trump. She didn’t have the strong inspirational vision that some other politician have. She is an interesting politician but too bad we never gave her the chance to implement her ideas.

[@davidjones3165]

That's her M.O. blame everyone but her.

[@HaroldTheWizardCat]

Came for the like/dislike ratio, stayed for the comments...

[@shredderly]

^

[@benshums]

^

[@sargemooseriders6338]

@seb sports me too! hahahaha

[@jeremychase7416]

strawberri7 Yeah, people have a very strong dislike towards corrupt, lying sociopaths.

[@tombradysmybiitch2406]

She's a criminal

[@leberetframboise1689]

"I came close, you know, I won the popular vote" You're damn right, Hillary!

[@juliebarrows8149]

Ugh! Too close for comfort! We dodged a bullet here!

[@leberetframboise1689]

@@juliebarrows8149 make your own comment, please

[@derekarmstrong3590]

Then why accept the results? It’s not a democracy if you win the most votes and lose. Democrats should end the Electoral College once and for all. But they don’t. Why not???

[@Haaaaaaaaarper]

She won by almost 3 million votes and still didnt became president? Sounds like a broken country to me...

[@coleoshtamebaghe3606]

I agree! I love how everything has doubled in price, inner city crime puts some warzones to shame, and the economy has tanked. It really makes me think about how awful it was under Trump.@@juliebarrows8149

[@YouSillyClown]

god... just listening to how coherent she sounds compared to the demented thing that's in the white house rn

[@emil-pd5pq]

nooo don drumfo so mean!!!!!!!!!

[@davestuddaman8127]

I present to you, Brandon

[@Enzo-ho9uf]

one thing you have to love about this is Ezra's passion about politics

[@CCSABCD]

Just came to see the like/dislike ratio.

[@donlyemanuel]

Cristian Campos 2k more likes.

[@khinlop]

lol same! I expected worse

[@DonaldSturgeAnthonyMcKenzieII]

Cristian Campos You know that's manipulated by Google, yes?

[@shredderly]

And stayed for the comments, amirite?

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Cristian Campos People make stupid reasons to make Clinton look bad! Especially Trump supporters! Clinton is good! We just need to get Trump out of offices he's a crazy person!

[@telanos2492]

One year after the fact, and its amazing how much visceral hatred for Hillary still remains, and the extent to which it colours popular perception. She's written a book exploring "what happened", which, no matter how you slice it, will mean looking at the reasons why she lost. Being able to reflect on that experience, mistakes and all - and learn from it is pretty important for anyone to be able to do. You won't get far in life if you can't do this. But slather this with kneejerk hatred and it suddenly becomes entirely a blame game! I mean, it takes a deep plunge into the the pit of 'alternative facts' to be able to watch this interview and come away with the conclusion that Hillary is simply doling out blame. And yet, here we are. I say this as an international observer - someone who hasn't been caught up with the hyper-partisanship and tribalism that is clearly afflicting many Americans - you guys need to take a step back and have a good look at yourselves and what you're becoming. What you've already become. When you can't tell fact from fiction at the most basic levels - when your prejudices are affecting your judgement to this extent, something has gone seriously wrong. And as alarming as this is - and it should be alarming to just about everyone - it appears like a huge segment of both media and laypeople (as evidenced in the comment section here) alike are clearly more interested in indulging in their hatred and self satisfied criticism, than giving any thought to the content of the discussion.

[@hannahmae9251]

These fine people conducted a wonderful interview.

[@njujuwd3495]

So, yeah, whatever your opinion about her is, I'm certain that she'd have been the far better alternative.

[@noahjenkins5008]

Never Trust Edited Comments

[@Regimeshifts]

NjCurly66 Why??

[@fokkohindriks8878]

NjCurly66 point taken.

[@Brandon33akahk]

Lmao

[@IchiRoe]

So does that imply that we aren't to trust this comment, doesn't that mean that we should trust edited comments? Or does that mean that we are both supposed to trust and have distrust over everything that's edited? Because that can certainly be taken in many different ways. Also I decided to edit this because ya know why not?

[@jamesburgess2k]

Shiroe I would've totally agreed with your points, if you didn't edit your comment.

[@Swampster123]

she felt a lot more genuine in this interview then she did during the campaign

[@frenchiehorn4339]

I'm honestly astounded by the like/dislike ratio.

[@ManuelCruz-tn4do]

Trump supporters just hate her because she competed against him. They're like a cult in case you haven't noticed. He is never the problem (despite being one of the most powerful men in the world).

[@user-jg5eu7uj4k]

@@ManuelCruz-tn4do or it's because shes a well known criminal...

[@ManuelCruz-tn4do]

@@user-jg5eu7uj4k bruh they're all criminals. Seriously how is Trump not a criminal? He's been the cause of so many hate crimes, so many deaths, and stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from the government. And that wasn't what I said. I never said didn't have a shady history, what I said was that the majority of Trump supporters are like a cult. Which they are, can you deny that?

[@user-jg5eu7uj4k]

@@ManuelCruz-tn4do and I wouldn't even vote Republican, I'm libertarian

[@Evan-iq8hd]

'We don't control the media environment..' - Hillary Clinton 2017

[@MrDJGri]

can't stop laughing

[@fighter0056]

@@MrDJGriwhy She doesn’t and there is no evidence for it Fox news tries to make it seems like it but in the end the “Main Stream Media“ is just as Right wing as Fox News They just seems more serious

[@dukeluoji]

Can we get Bernie on here? Edit: I understand that Bernie Sanders was on 1-2 years ago, however so was Hillary Clinton. I'd also like to know what Bernie is thinking currently.

[@ivorstirling4263]

Tanomura no, he's already fossilised

[@ida6950]

Tanomura Yes, please. I'd love that.

[@evanoc]

Zacy002 The most popular politican in the country is a fossil? The most disliked president in history at less than a year in isn't?

[@jamesphelps3409]

Tanomura and oboma

[@ivorstirling4263]

Evan C. Sorry i got Bernie Sanders and the dinosaurs mixed up sorry pal

[@alainischileno]

lmao just imagine Trump trying to answer a one-on-one question with a fraction of this coherence

[@CocaiineCowboy]

Alain Rochette not very hard to answer questions remember she gets the questions ahead of time.

[@alainischileno]

....my comment still stands

[@Ben-fj2cc]

Alain Rochette Not really these questions have been pre prepared and pre read and it's unlikely she wrote the replies herself.

[@erickvillagrana1699]

Alain Rochette Trump actually wins elections. Who cares how he speaks

[@tanszism]

+Titan Valhalla Trump generated a lot of negative press even though he did have a script, and was WITHOUT questions. He just had to say some cheesy, overused, retarded speech. And he failed.

[@trenthansen9498]

Can you just tell her character from this? She comes across as a sincere, good person.

[@MorbidGod391]

This was really interesting 🧐 to listen to.

[@stevehardie8109]

Shes smart, smarter than dump

[@scadet17]

I'm a liberal democrat and I voted for her in the Presidential race, but did she just talk about the Koch brothers committing to spend 400 million in the 2018 race and then turn around and say that lobbying and campaign money doesn't "necessarily" corrupt a politician?

[@Toxic0788]

Like people, corporations put their money in the candidate that agrees with their interests. What's hard to understand about that? Obviously the Koch brothers won't invest in a candidate who doesn't share their principles.

[@kaingates]

Lobbying and campaign money isn't proof of corrupting a politician, supreme court have ruled on that. That's why she's said what she said.

[@aSheeple]

so true, Donald Trump is so much more honest and capable.

[@stin3000]

You voted for a person who laughs at a 12 year old raped victim, a crime boss.

[@oXAshleyAddictionXo]

Those same donors are also infested in your mainstream media among your peers. Challenge your beliefs.

[@kristantonugraha7367]

I'm a simple man. I see 51 minutes, go directly to comments.

[@amazingdany]

Use YT's fast-forward options to cut video time while not sacrificing comprehension! Super-useful! ☻

[@pretty948]

I didn't know this was 51 minutes long. Thanks for telling me. I'll be on my way out

[@_noahrh]

27:45 what the heck was that

[@deniseigneo5732]

I still don't understand why americans chose trump over Her 💔

[@kelvinlim2550]

As a non-American, this was one of the most enlightening and thoughtful conversations I have heard from Hillary. Juxtaposing the flurry of negative comments, one could understand why it was such an uphill battle for her in the 2016 election. It almost seems as if nuanced and pragmatic deliberation of policy development and execution never stood the chance of trumping catchy soundbites. Americans, you really got what you deserved. And that is why America would never be great again.

[@Birrrrra]

Kelvin Lim this is propaganda and you fell for it.

[@limehouseblues]

imagine thinking any politician could fix this country. and imagine caring what this ghoul thinks.

[@G33KST4R]

Jesus Christ it's so refreshing to hear complete sentences and paragraphs that convey singular ideas in a structured manner.

[@shredderly]

Dare i say it's...TREMENDOUS? *airhorn intensifies*

[@ryanschrum9872]

G33KST4R ikr

[@G33KST4R]

I didn't know you couldn't form a complete sentence without rehearsing it first....

[@419inkpens9]

I tell all my hoes did Washington change his birthday to 2/22 for you exactly 222 years to the day of your birth too to establish my competence for you commissioner as well? Google September 3, 1752 ...and #stfu.

[@JessicaHuangTheQuetzalKirin]

her voice is really relaxing.

[@maddyline5797]

What an excellent interview. Truly. The interviewer asked such interesting questions, it was such a fresh take. This was not at all how I expected to spend my evening.

[@JVIPER88]

One of Hillary's problems is that her positions on issues may have seemed more grounded, by they also didn't solve the problem. For example: When Sanders talked about public college being free (through a regulatory measure, similar to what is done in the UK), Hillary's proposal was "tuition free college" in which tax credits would be given to help subsidize the cost of college, but only for families below a certain income bracket. So you have tax money being used for college credits for certain people, which does nothing to actually curb the out-of-control costs of college education. All it does is give colleges an excuse to increase their tuition rates because now, the money would be coming from the government instead of students. Another example: Universal Healthcare. Hillary said, "90% of people are covered, so it's easier to just get the other 10%". Maybe. But the 90% don't all have good, or affordable coverage. They're just "covered". The plan of extending Obamacare further doesn't do anything to actually curb the out-of-control costs of healthcare, because her plan continued to see cooperation with the money-sucking insurance companies. See? There's a pattern here.

[@anonmouse6337]

Well, the country I'm currently residing in has government subsidized higher education, and it works fine. And considering Bernie adopted her income-tested plan a few months ago (without giving due credit, of course), it seems he's for it too. As for healthcare, I'm not sure what your issue is. That insurance companies are involved? Well, just like the big banks, you unfortunately can't just ditch them without causing even more problems. And any sort of coverage is better than no coverage at all. ACA was far from perfect, but it's what got through congress, and it generally improved healthcare in the US. HRC's plan seems to be tweak existing systems to soften people up for a better system, which I think is the way to go.

[@YuFanLou]

You need to tackle the problems one at a time. First the burden of tuition is partly shifted to the government, but not so much that the government cannot afford it; then the government can use its financial position to argue with the schools about the prices. Money from the government isn't infinite either, and the government is at a much better position to negotiate than individual or even organized student families. It's the same for universal healthcare. Right in the video Hillary said her plan was first to get everybody covered, then the government can start negotiating price with that position. Otherwise what would the new price the government negotiates mean? Does it only cover those who are insured under the public option? Would the negotiation even be successful if the government have not attained the universal healthcare coverage? There is a pattern, but it is not stopping short. The pattern is pragmatically inching forward improvements wherever it is.

[@lilaclizard4504]

Exactly YuFan Lou! she's not about putting everyone on lower level health care, she's about inching towards good quality care step by step. A steady drop in the medicare age is a really sound policy too! That CAN be made to reach "medicare for all", it's just about persistence

[@andyshay1385]

Annie Brown Break up the banks and single payer. These are real ideas. 💡

[@allconsolesaregood]

What? Can you explain your logic here? If there weren't relatively affordable and consistent government loans, then students would be forced to flock in even higher levels to private loans.

[@lren45]

The problem with these assessments by Hillary is that it seems unlikely that she had this introspection throughout the campaign. It's only when she lost, she began to recluse and think more about the election and the factors that contributed to the overall outcome. This makes a huge difference in that at her lowest moment, right after she lost the election, she was more prone to accepting radical ideas and concepts that provide an easier and more convenient explanation of the outcome. While some of her assessments do seem plausible, she definitely should have waited to limit any resentment and anger that most likely played a hand in shaping her analysis. Overall, she does seem to be very self aware and conscious of her short-comings, regardless of what many others say. However, it's muddled in so much information that seems to be mostly dominated in the resentment based explanations that make it very difficult for her to put the blame on herself.

[@lren45]

By the way, this was a very good interview. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@heron2]

Hindsight is always 20/20 I suppose.

[@IizUname]

I agree.

[@TheRishijoesanu]

This was an absolutely terrific interview. Shame on you America for not voting for a candidate that actually understand policies.

[@OPsK1LLs]

She ran the most dirty campaign in our history. Her fraud, voter suppression, career crimes and zero accomplishments in any office she's held were made clear to those who didn't fall for the mainstream media's propaganda. She's in bed with the voting machine companies people. Thats not by accident. Plus were not at war with russia, she wanted that. It's on record. I think we did the right thing. Others really have been destroyed by doing a fifth of what she's done.

[@wt1272]

Respect this lady

[@Lol-rt3mo]

Nah

[@tristanmoller9498]

Ezra Klein so nicely dressed and neatly cut. The interview is calm and fluent, which makes it relaxing to listen to

[@sandmanxd9950]

The one that cracks me up is when she looks in to the camera and scream WHY ARNT I 30 POINTS AHEAD!!!

[@waltertaboada9319]

When?

[@papercutsofanintrovertthey9003]

Miss Clinton, you've always inspired me, I admire and look up to you. I learned a lot from viewing your interview, I also learned two new words from you; Coalesce and Compunction - thank you, God bless you and your family and your future endeavors. Inspired, Christian Kalos

[@stevehardie8109]

Its good Biden was elected, she would be better

[@juliecoburn6639]

Why didn't they do this interview during the 2016 election? This is one of the best explanations and discussions I have seen. She is matter of frank and doesn't seem fake here.

[@NickHammer99]

Ezra you do such a good job on these videos. This long form political content is something you don't get on tv news

[@chiar0scur0]

I didn't like her as a candidate, and I know she hated being a candidate as well, but when she finally gets to speak candidly about policy, it's just so obvious that she knows what she's talking about, and really has the ability to function in the political system. It's shocking, really, to see a professional politician with such a nuanced and deep understanding of how politics happens, and what the dangers to it are.

[@phanadex]

Very interesting to see someone tackle difficult questions with such ease, and be so coherent. Thank you for this video.

[@user-vj4wx3qp5b]

*The United States owes the honorable Lady a well-deserved apology.*

[@PhillyNonSequitur]

She's a detail oriented pragmatist, a realist, in a short attention span world of carnival barkers.

[@sixthugger]

GO AWAY. McCAIN AND ROMNEY WENT AWAY. FOLLOW THEIR LEAD

[@sixthugger]

They didn't write a book and then go on a tour, they just maintained their offices, and didn't try to be extremely visible.

[@minhhuynh4477]

sixthugger she can't. Trump keeps bringing her up.

[@MythicalRedFox]

+Claire Knight Yes they did. Romney went back to private sector work, McCain went back to being a Senator. Hillary can't move on from presidential aspirations though.

[@morality2020]

Minh that's BS, trump could care less about this criminal. When she brings up a falsehood about him he responds accordingly! Facts!

[@Nootathotep]

Mitt Romney also did... nearly nothing wrong. Also, not only did McCain not go away, he redeemed himself for choosing Sarah Palin

[@isabelleguerineau9300]

I think this was a fantastic interview

[@Rudster14]

At first it seemed like she, was blaming everyone else but then she started to take a bit more responsibility which I appreciate.

[@paulalancaster1]

Great interview! Good job Ezra. I'm betting 95% of the dislikes didn't watch the whole thing, or didn't pay attention if they did.

[@RoozbehPournader]

Thanks a lot Ezra. One of the best interviews I've seen for such a long time. Inspiring, deep, and honest. You rock!

[@MrJmdamian89]

A very candid, and insightful interview. One of my new personal favorites, so far.

[@khunt2055]

I would love to interview you for my Book.

[@dasussy4721]

13:52 the dumbest statement I've ever heard

[@Diamondsmuggler]

Alen Slavic yeah because all media outlets bashed trump and he still won

[@shobhitk87gmailcom]

Ever heard of Fox News?

[@pmfg11]

Fox News vs all the other media outlets lmao

[@tuongpham7609]

the left doesn't control their media as much as the right does xD. lol. it's legit 10 left media to 1 right media.

[@patrickkeaveney9472]

For every small thing that Clinton did she was crucified, whilst when Trump did massive things and got away with it

[@nicholasbarnes8283]

Brilliant... and amazing interview... totally non partisan and the true Hillary Clinton... supported her then... Support her in the future...

[@jasonphilly]

Homeboy needs some Chapstick

[@cynthiavanteylingen7922]

watching this 2 years later. and thinking what would it have been like if we would have had her as the pres of usa. one thing i know for sure. it would have been much better. sigh

[@GEOFFREYGIULIANO]

Love her.

[@irishpoacher917]

Hilary for prison 2020!

[@Infamous41]

Lol

[@secnytsecnyt2981]

Irish poacher Ah yes, because everyone you disagree with deserves to go to prison.... yes, yes, I forgot that rule.

[@OlderG0ds]

@@secnytsecnyt2981 nope just the ones who have been proven to commit serious crimes. Any other person in the government who caused top secret documents to end up on unsecured private email servers and end up on Anthony Weiners laptop would be in jail

[@noparty5183]

Brilliant as always

[@AndreTheAstronaut]

nobody in the comments watched the video, i guarantee it

[@Ioganstone]

"Chuck, this must stop"

[@guppy8073]

With all the craziness of the last election, I listened to barely any of Clinton's speeches but many of Trump's. Hearing her for the first time is so enlightening. I wish her eloquence and pragmatism was imposed onto Trump during the election, but there's not much we can do about that now.

[@cach_dies]

Man, Vox must have A LOT of money to afford those speaking fees $$

[@ImranConquers]

Alejandro Ortiz Shes promoting her book, usually there is no fee for this type of interview

[@AspinceLaframboise]

It's 'made of money' Nazionst crap eh... Ü

[@Noodles1771]

Clinton is totally willing to wave her fees as long as it's a puff piece about her.

[@glossygloss472]

FAYMprod What’s wrong with being financially motivated?

[@FAYMprod]

HelloKittyFan 26 "You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook." Harry S. Truman. civil servants should always choose people over profits but for the last 40ish years they don't. wall st. incentivizes corporations to globally exploit labor and the planet and our Congress and so-called progressive leaders like Clinton are complicit. Her husband tho is beyond complicit - his deregulations and pacts like NAFTA are directly responsible for growing income inequality. today the 1% control historically the most wealth they have since the Gilded Age.

[@patrickflynn1013]

"Saving the economy." Too big to fail is prospering like never before.

[@buzzlightyear1010]

this didn’t age well

[@nathanspencer1238]

I love the question at 26:28 personally I hear this all the time "All politicians are corrupt" and personally I can't agree with that sentiment. To me it shows how the years the public has become convinced (largely by an overly encouraging media, largely by the momentum of generational laziness beginning with the Baby Boomers) that it is okay to be undiligent in research. It seems most the people who say it, are just using it as an excuse to not take a serious look at political records, and when they find what seems to be contradictions in the politicians records to think about how the politician could have reasoned the two together.

[@levihoffman5897]

I don't think all are corrupt, but I do look at campaign finance. Hillary and Trump are corrupt. Bernie is not.

[@tOnySi]

Andrew yang is running the ubi campaign and its working

[@maxpearson9234]

F

[@tryxoso2015]

Yang's Boba who?

[@slugfeast8944]

Who?

[@tommyodonovan3883]

Thousand Dollahs Yang never got more than 5%.

[@elenaobradovic4181]

Hello everyone!

[@cup_check_official]

Vox, look at the chaos. Is that what you wanted? Are you happy now? 🙃

[@kiwi4998]

Tell Me This I'd rather have the freedom of chaos then the restriction of the speech that produces said chaos, I'd rather learn from it then not have it at all

[@christiphedugary2980]

exactly!

[@maurobianchin8862]

"Are you not entertained?"

[@Tata-iu3fy]

What chaos?

[@nick.......]

No one will ever learn anything if we only listen to one side of the case. Look at the polarization of America.

[@johnsonlong57]

she's still winning by the popular vote.

[@wackywong]

Say what you want about her, she's verbally eloquent and can hold a line of thought. That's much more I can say about Trump.

[@daddydiesel7177]

Being “verbally eloquent” doesn’t make you a good president

[@srisuartini5329]

@@daddydiesel7177 so being verbally inept is?

[@jaredkenn9080]

What Hillary Clinton really thinks: "I should've won"

[@user-ku1jd5gi4o]

Jared Kenn and she would be right.

[@schmurble2254]

Well, yeah. Anyone who ran thinks they should've won; Sanders, Stein, Trump (who at this point I'm pretty sure doesn't actually want to be a president).

[@ConvexandDutch]

"And it's not my fault"

[@emilyfrahm4118]

I don't think she hid that

[@infinitesingularity3835]

Jared Kenn and she thinks it wasn't her fault also lol

[@proxidy8345]

saying trump won cause the media was on trumps side I literally couldn't stop laughing

[@peterjsmith5918]

By that logic, Hillary was also on Trump's side.

[@PunkChef42]

any publicity is good publicity

[@byron1401]

Any news coverage is good news coverage. Between social media, news coverage (save fox), international coverage, even debate coverage, Trump got more said about him. Granted it wasn't all good, but his sum was greater than that of hers. Most news promoted her and condemned him. But more news was said about him than her. That's a winning ticket

[@remithefrog350]

Typical Trump supporter: can't even formulate a proper sentence, is a complacent sheep who will agree with whoever is shoved in their face the most, and then denies this because they're stupid enough to absorb whatever new batch of lies Trump and his moronic sycophants have scrambled to produce. 😤 Obviously Trump was being a disgusting idiot, (as usual) which attracted a rediculouse amount of media, but the real key to such a scum bag miraculously becoming the most powerful man in the world is Russia. If it weren't for Putin's "secret" meddling he wouldn't have stood a chance against someone far more qualified.

[@letmeouttahere100]

What time does she say that??? Can't be bothered watching entire video

[@noparty5183]

Brilliant then.brilliant now..would have been a damn good president 😍

[@marcosmora2138]

I gave this a thumbs up only because I loved the comedic value in this video!

[@musically_insane]

Been watching this interview and what I feel is that she was not the right candidate for this political era. She has her merits and in some other time would have been an excellent President, but the people of today needed a different voice and that voice wasn't hers, it was Bernie's. There is art in knowing when is your time to shine. Even if she tried to ape what Bernie was, she would've come across as inauthentic and contrived. She did make some major mistakes though. She shouldn't have taken money from super PACs. She should've released her speeches and should have taken responsibility for the e-mail debacle. It was just not in her destiny to be POTUS. But kudos to Ezra for such well thought out questions and discussion. This is why I'm subscribed to Vox!

[@dreathon]

Jesus christ. Bernie is done. He is over. Get over it. Stop beating a dead horse. MOVE ALONG. And shut up! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GODDDDDDDDD

[@suntzu3541]

Andrea C are you a Hillary supporter?

[@musically_insane]

andrea c funny that you say this for Bernie when Hillary is the one who needs to stop crying about the “Russians and James Comey and sexism and Bernie” and move on.

[@Behemothius]

She should be ashamed of what they did to Bernie. And just admit she is to blame for the loss.

[@DD-d6d3]

Behemothius Oh, the irony. HRC will stop blaming Bernie as soon as Bernie quits blaming her for his inability to win a primary.

[@JurgenAndersonMusic]

She is the reason why Sanders lost the primary.... bc she is a more fit candidate. I understand the appeal of him, but he's very idealistic, and unchecked idealism doesn't have a place in public office

[@asdwaetd]

Dee Dee are you dumb? Bernie never blamed Hilary, he always talks policy, besides even if he did blame her, he would be just to do since Hillary and DNC rigged the primaries and that is based on evidence whereas Hillary blames Bernie because Bernie woke people up and gave them hope

[@asdwaetd]

Jurgen Anderson unchecked idealism? cough cough Libya cough cough Syria, cough somalia cough cough Yemen, from 2 wars under to 7 under Obama and Hillary

[@dreathon]

did you even WATCH THIS VIDEO!?!!?!?!?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU STUPID PEOPLE?!?!?! JESUS CHRIST!!!!! Do not COMMENT ON A VIDEO UNLESS YOU HAVE WATCHED IT, you idiot trolls! Get a freaking LIFE. Go DO SOMETHING. I can sense your ugly fat disgusting laziness from here.

[@kuddi5313]

Great interview and great journalist

[@suchismitagupta]

She's more than 60 probably and still so fluently speaking..... Smart

[@issaosama4937]

So nice hearing someone who knows wtf their policies mean and how they'd have worked.

[@ben_jamin4529]

Do one on my man Bernie

[@jasonwright7123]

Ben_jamin they already have

[@vandreadparty]

NO, maybe when Bernie wins something.

[@evanoc]

Kevin Semaj He's won a Senate seat at least

[@KazmirRunik]

17:47 Or you could've watched the video and gotten your answer. ^ And it's not that 2015 one.

[@Bobogdan258]

17:48 watch the video, it's good to know what is happening around you, to have a nuanced view of the world, get out of the bubble.

[@slwebb07]

This is, without a doubt, the most researched political interview I've ever seen. Ezra, your questions to Secretary Clinton were well thought out and intentional. This is the kind of interview the world should see. Though I am a strong Bernie Sanders supporter, I appreciate the issues brought to life here. Well done.

[@jerrygiovengo1927]

When she said tried to break the mindset of Americans enough said..

[@MrZing1987]

Great interview. I love Ezra's interviewing style. He asks great questions. Hillary always gives great answers which annoys the haters...as if she cares. Thumbs up!!

[@licensedblockhead]

13:52 WHAT!

[@fernandorafaelsaucedo7756]

Could you call Dominic rivers ezequiel De Los Santos son say hi too him.

[@WilliamCanero]

Does anyone know if Ezra Klein got those tickets to Hamilton?

[@the_erupted]

I scroll the comments and most pf it is republicans bashing her for not being real or that she is being fake but the thing is she won the popular vote so I think it would be hard to let go of the fact I lost an election but won the popular vote

[@mrtomh]

Another reminder of the sad fact that instead of this amazingly intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, experienced, and even tempered woman, we got that other guy, who has nothing but an ego.

[@Infamous41]

Lol

[@cw4959]

Ezra is such a great interviewer

[@brianmichaels5112]

She makes so so much sense. Common sense. It’s not complicated it’s sensible talk. I love how she is just as passionate about affordable health now as she was in 93 when as First Lady she headed the Clinton health care reform. Back then by he haters said oh “ it’s a power move to show how powerful she is in the administration she doesn’t really care”. But I’m retrospect she has been advocating for some form of affordable health care since the 80’s when she was a law partner / First Lady of Arkansas. Love her

[@Freshbreath100]

13:55 - "We don't control the media environment the same way the right does, its harder for our message to get out" 😂😂😂

[@Colgruv]

It's because the right doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good story. It's much easier to pin all economic uncertainty on discrete groups of 'the other' than to critically examine which of the nation's economic policies might be having an adverse effect and why.

[@mycenth22]

Still unsure of why I'm not supposed to like her...

[@tristanmoller9498]

Great that she does an interview with Vox

[@sixtieralone]

Is UBI essentially soft georgism/ a georgist policy or am I missunderstanding the concept?

[@that_pac123]

Why? WHY didn't she win? Listen to those sweet sweet FULL SENTENCES!

[@JRead0691]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! This is seriously one of the best comments I've read in a long time.

[@DD-d6d3]

that_pac12 it's like an adult talking!

[@Revilex100]

it was her turn!

[@rmcc9991]

too difficult to understand tho

[@kchididdy]

because we'd rather think ourselves as experts on how a country should be run. they cry about socialism but fail to see that concentration of wealth has gotten so extremely skewed that some form of redistribution would be a necessary component of keeping the middle class alive. dunning-kruger effect.

[@MrJason005]

Say what you want about Hillary Clinton, I found this interview informative

[@theJaston9]

Why didn't she give interviews like this when she running? This is obviously late in the game to get a look into her contemplative process. We didn't get much insight into this during this campaign. A lot of this is probably the campaign's attempt to make interviews with journalists as infrequent as possible because that would give another opportunity to probe her email investigation. I think was a mistake. She should have early on been more emphatically apologize for her email probe missteps in a full press conference. This would make it old news, leaving journalists with a different set of issues to cover. Her problem was not Donald Trump. The problem is we heard filtered messages crafted by the campaign and were identically repeated at each rally, meaning the campaign kept trying to recycle the same old news that news outlets treated as such. And for the record she really needs to understand that, yes- people do care about immigration - in has been a hallmark of the Democratic Party's abandonment of working class citizens whom they used to be the strongest advocates. It's citizens you are elected to represent, not the non-electorate. And lastly come to sense with money in politics. Democrats raked in the corporate contributions this past election, so do they really believe in campaign finance reform- the notion of crafting a constitutional amendment to address the Citizens United issue?

[@captaincamera7749]

You got to give it to her, Trump wouldn't last 20 minutes in this situation.