Hillary Clinton & Condoleezza Rice on America’s Global Role | The Problem With Jon Stewart Podcast

[@adifrank]

What's most fascinating about this interview is how these two secretaries of state, from opposing parties, are in complete sync when it comes to illegal wars, regime change and the military industrial complex. No daylight between them. They were literally completing each other's sentences.

[@Ishkur23]

The Democrats and the Republicans profoundly disagree on many, many things. Foreign policy is not one of them.

[@dannyd8625]

Yup, the Uniparty. It's like 2 mafia families run a town. While they'd prefer to own everything, they know they have to divvy up the goods. As long as one or the other family is in control of the car dealership, movie theater, etc- everything is fine. Once someone new comes into town and tries to start up, both families go full force to put an end to it.

[@Larez121]

@@Ishkur23 exactly

[@corbeau-_-]

I found it to be disturbing. Greed is a-political. Unless your belief is about greed and desire itself (buddhism). Capitalism supports greed and covers it up when it is illegal. That's not just these 2 women, that's over 70 years of US policy, if not just US policy. General Smedley D. Butler still wrote it down best in 'war is a racket': War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses. I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag. I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism. It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. Note that it was published in 1933 - and not one thing has changed...

[@corbeau-_-]

Smedley has long been the most decorated US general, to be clear. Not some lapdog...

[@c.m.9369]

I love how Ms Rice says „When we went into Afghanistan…“ and then not a minute later says „See, Democracies don‘t invade other countries, dictatorships do“… without a single glimps of recognition of the irony here.

[@Marrow9000]

She is referring to the Democratic Peace Theory (hypothesis) which claims democracies don't fight each other because their people (voting constituents who will be doing the fighting) have a say in not going to war. It does not make claims on state to state relations when one or both of those players are non-democracies.

[@uncletuftin]

Claiming Brazil no longer being a military junta as an American success along with South America and Africa too was some pretty wild historical revisionism.

[@daysjours]

@@Marrow9000 ooooh, aren´t you fancy pants. How about addressing the 1 million dead in Iraq thanks to Ms. Rice & co. Real people. Real death. Real horror. Not theories. These ladies are not gonna be finding a place in heaven.

[@nancymathisen9707]

As it turns out, the USA isn’t really a democracy, despite its PR, and self identification.

[@fredericom875]

Given that Afghanistan was a security threat to the region and the world (have you forgot about 9/11?)

[@guylarcher6005]

When you realize we live in a world where comedians are asking the important questions. Thanks Jon.

[@sloburnjo]

as always been

[@EattheApple666]

Don't forget the Comedian showing great leadership and saving Ukraine.

[@jakelong6473]

Important questions? Like how much was Gaddafi wanting to leave the petrodollar involved in your decision to kill him, why didn't you do the same to the Saudis. Everything he asked was scripted and all their answers were propagandized lies if you look even a millimeter into any of these topics. Wake up.

[@sulfurlad]

Not just asking the important questions, but asking them well, and respectfully. It's not a punditry debate between political factions, it's a mediated and fluid discussion, free of hyperbole, with participants from both parties. Comedians, because of their creativity, are frequently much more gifted thinkers and speakers than are the reporters and pundits you see in 24 hour news cycles. There are so many examples of folks like Jon, but oh man is this a reminder of the trail he and people like Carlin have blazed for nuanced thought and analysis. Jon Stewart remains one of the most gifted interviewers of his generation. I remember the first visit that Powell made when he left office was Jon's show, and they dedicated an entire episode to the interview: that's a gifted thinker respecting a gifted thinker, 100%.

[@Lennybird91]

From the Jest and Jokers of old, Mark Twain, Charlie Chaplin, and so on into modernity that indeed has long been the case.

[@freeglu]

if they switched "democracy" with "the interests of american corporations," their answers would sound much more honest

[@mimoiah]

Thanks 👏

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

The US sacrificed tremendous interests in pursuit of democracy. Do you think we wanted Sadrists serving in Iraqi Parliament, or the SOFA to deny us the right to keep any permanent bases in Iraq? Do you think we wanted Afghanistan to make it illegal to convert to Christianity? No, but we tolerated this because of democracy

[@andreipolytov1059]

Для них это одно и тоже.

[@kennethtopping8953]

I never knew I could feel this much rage and disgust and injustice.

[@ChannelMath]

welcome to the two-party oligarchy!

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

87% of civilians in Iraq were not killed by coalition forces (according to Iraq Body Count). They committed senseless carnage in large part because they knew people like you would blame their American enemies. How else do you explain such bizarre events as the July Soccer Bombings, which seemed to target no particular sect? The rage and disgust you should feel is that a perverse inversion of karma you enabled, by turning our enemies atrocities into a propaganda victory against their Western enemies.

[@DeeloGoodquest]

That’s exactly what the plan is. To enrage you. Don’t fall for it. Stay centered. You are the eye of the hurricane.

[@literallyanangrymoose7717]

Then you weren't paying attention before.

[@Philip-bk2dm]

Speaking of "humility," I think that it would help our image abroad if our politicians would stop saying that we are the "greatest country in the world" or "the greatest country in the history of the world" as they all seem to love to do. It's an embarrassment in my view.

[@ghostpiratelechuck2259]

They don’t give a sht about the perception abroad. It’s pandering to US nationalism.

[@sirspate]

As an outsider, it makes sense to my ear when taken as 'the country that's the current dominant Empire'. (But I'm not disagreeing with you.) I think Jon's comparisons to Rome in the discussion are apt.

[@biocapsule7311]

This interview is anything but humility. The US cause as much problems and suffering as they purport to solve. I notice they didn't ever touch on the fact that Iran is the way it is because of the US. They talk big about liberal democracy, but liberal democracy is an afterthought, the US only ever care about which governments are willing to do what they want. Oh yeah... they make mistakes... notice they never really talk about any of their mistakes, they will always be the hero of their own story.

[@electricpirate7964]

It's better when we create connections with each other - because our western politicians (except Bernie) are the lobbyists' wXores.

[@Philip-bk2dm]

Someone replied to my comment by saying (in so many words) that my point is moot because politicians don't care about outside opinions when they are pandering to the U.S. Nationalist base. I don't see their comment here anymore, but that is quite right. So, thank you.

[@TmRnBn]

This should be the Prime-Time news on a daily basis. This is more informative, more instructive, and more important than any 90-minute news-cast I've seen in years.

[@JRush374]

You should read Enough Already by Scott Horton

[@rickhaines927]

Certainly lays out the facts more bluntly

[@dontaclebourn5679]

Couldn't agree more!

[@markostoppel1136]

Exactly, and even though they have very opposing views, they still can speak and work together. This is where America was the strongest

[@markostoppel1136]

Loved this interview, different views and opinions, but very civil and factual, each one makes her point without negating the other. This is where America could be the absolute strongest ever - being able to cross the partisan line and work together

[@stevehutchison9483]

Jon I have been watching your videos recently, and you gave these two a softball interview. I appreciate your respect for both, but you are a brilliant interviewer keep pushing forward with the common man/vet/police/fire/laborer/etc.

[@sdust251977]

Hahaha softball? I guess you have access to classified intelligence and have been in all situation rooms like they were, so you can judge their decisions. Perhaps we should interview you? This is the problem with the ignorant, they have no clue and only judge for what they see... Just saying

[@RogerLewis-ey2tt]

It seems so weird to me that Jon didn't attempt to squeeze a little remorse out of these 2 Shield Maidens. The Blackwater guy, Erik Prince(?) got a softball interview, too...

[@LeRon832]

@sdust251977 we know they did bad shit and lied. Are you just defending them because they were in stressful situations?

[@charlesreid9337]

@@sdust251977 what is it like to be a mindless serf?? "Oh you just have to trust thuh leeders". What a mindless simp. Both are responsible for 10s of thousands of innocent deaths. Clinton was literally taking money from foreign nations for her money laundering "charity" who had decisions before her they wanted to influence. Rice is just your standard utterly corrupt republican. Oh.. well they both are

[@DonJuanDecepticon]

I wonder what their restrictions they asked to be on what could be asked on this interview was. It’s not normal for him to not to want to ask harder questions of people. Im sure Apple, and both sides had things limiting his ability to do that.

[@elijahkatz5083]

At 6:38 watching Condoleeza Rice say "The United States can't impose democracy, that doesn't work," first my head exploded...then I said to myself, "Well, if anyone would know..."

[@elijahkatz5083]

I actually screamed into my pillow at 34:39

[@mikeytopaz4601]

Or just as astonishing; Clinton remarking incredulously, "What's next?" in cautioning as to when and where we get involved in foreign theaters.

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

The USA is the most terrorist country in the world. All of the wars for resources and imperialism. The CIA Violently overthrowing legally elected leaders in other countries who did not want to let USA corporations and the west in to rape their countries of resources. If the American public really knew the history of this country they would be AGHAST. A good documentary to watch that shows a lot of what I'm talking about is "Zeitgeist Addendum" which can be seen on KZbin.

[@quixomega]

It has been more than 10 years, people do learn from their mistakes. Look at W, he wants to distance himself from his Presidency more than anyone.

[@jannichi6431]

Condescending Rice, always made me feel like I was in that mandatory college English class that I already attended. She is a status quo professor. Like an Amy Coney Barrett. Total opposite of Hillary who brings UP a conversation to deeper thought.

[@richardfriday9477]

As Noam Chomsky said around 1990, if the Nuremberg Laws were applied, every American president after WWII would have been hanged. I think the same can be said for former US Secretaries of State.

[@macdonalddube5189]

Nuremberg Laws? or Nuremberg trials? Do you even check what you write. The Nuremberg Laws were antisemitic and racist laws that were enacted in Nazi Germany in 1935 . What ever you might have meant. Now you sound like you are a literal Nazi.

[@syme1984]

He also said the unvaxxed should removed from society and starved. He lived long enough for him to become the villain. Or village idiot.

[@Reasonable6]

The man is 100% Establishment since Covid 1984...

[@joelhungerford8388]

Not to take away what he said there, but I can't get past the fact that chomsky also called for those refusing to take the covid vaccination to be forced into camps and/or refused the ability to work and buy food. So I don't take much out of a geriatric who wants to emulate nazi concentration camps

[@richardfriday9477]

@@macdonalddube5189 Thanks for the lesson, professor.

[@pumpkinpieslover9880]

I struggle with these interviews because Jon is able to make some small progress on their positions but then they come off as rational and factual while completely avoiding the real facts around imperialism and our extraction of wealth and resources from the counties we invade. Iraq was always about the oil and that needs to be called out here.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

You're right of course, but Jon's drawing the line in a different place. His goal is to get them talking without making it a puff piece and as a result we get to see both how intelligent and yet deluded these two former Secretaries of State are. I struggle to listen to HRC talk without getting distracted by what I would like to confront her with, so it was an exercise in self-discipline. My politics are far to the left of JS, but I love his beautiful heart and brain.

[@sh740]

How much oil did the US extract from Iraq or lybia or Afghanistan? How much did the wars cost?

[@hmq9052]

@@sh740 The wars cost way way more than any oil benefit. The cost benefit analysis just doesn't work. It wasn't about oil. That was a benefit

[@integratedboxingsystem8827]

The USA is the most terrorist country in the world. All of the wars for resources and imperialism. The CIA Violently overthrowing legally elected leaders in other countries who did not want to let USA corporations and the west in to rape their countries of resources. If the American public really knew the history of this country they would be AGHAST. A good documentary to watch that shows a lot of what I'm talking about is "Zeitgeist Addendum" which can be seen on KZbin.

[@hmq9052]

@@integratedboxingsystem8827 At the macro level, I'd have to disagree. Europe and the major powers were in a state of perpetual war for a thousand years until America became the sole superpower. The period of unprecedented peace that followed the second world war - and that we've enjoyed in our lifetimes - is precisely because America became that sole superpower. Never has a country with such an economic and military advantage over the rest of the world acted with such restraint.

[@david33mtrb]

Jon, Thank you for your excellent work. I want you to know that it is paying dividends. As a professor, I have and will continue to use this program in my community college HIST-1302 (American History 1865-2010) course here in Dallas, Texas. This kind of mutually-respectful, balanced-approach, deep dive into the issues is what is needed to help us develop adult citizens who are active participants in healthy, robust democracy. 🎉

[@jerrywatson1958]

@David Robison Your's is the only thoughtful and respectful comment I've read so far. Thank you for being a teacher. I liked this program. Both strong women in their roles at the time. Maybe the two of them can run together on a ticket. I bet the two of them would kick MAGA's Butt.

[@coffelt683]

I got my Associates degree in history at a community college. Thank you for working a crucial and underappreciated job! 5 years after finishing community college and I have studied in three countries, currently finishing my mastersin Italy and about to intern at a university in Istanbul. I couldn't have done it without the amazing professors at my old community college.

[@jackspring7709]

Lol - 3 globalists, one of them pretending to be a democrat, the other pretending to be a republican, "interviewed" by a celebrity pretending to be a critical thinker. They all belong to the same club. How can a professor be so naive?

[@karyon1007]

​@@coffelt683 I really believe that US community colleges have the potential to be a tremendous force for good with proper funding. The small class sizes and the availability of remedial courses to fill in gaps from high school are perfect for people who want to pursue higher ed but aren't quite prepared for the sink-or-swim atmosphere at many large universities.

[@ZoroastrianNomad]

Chaos is the feature not a bug , Jon Stewart ( open letter # 189 ) ...... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGrCkJWwndh4na8

[@wlcoston]

A really, really, really great conversation that we (Americans) don't have enough in an open way.

[@odaybaddar2354]

"Democracies don't use WMDs" says Rice, forgetting that the US is the only country that used nuclear bombs on civilians.

[@frbrable]

C'mon now, we toned it down after that, only burning civilians alive using napalm and white phosphorous.

[@fredericom875]

In an extraordinary military context. To world war 2

[@marcbochner7733]

Atomic weapons actually

[@chillyourself5208]

also uranium ammunition

[@latexmonkeys]

@@marcbochner7733 what's the difference?

[@hapennysparrow]

Rice and Clinton on justifications for US interventions were astonishing. Jon, you have the last word, Sir. Massive respect for your sharp, truth telling observations. These two women danced around the stark truth of your criticisms. You were and are the one voice I trust to cut through the BS.

[@chrissnyder8108]

Best pair of guests ever, and good interviewing, asking tough questions and not allowing simplistic answers. Wanna hold you 3 to the end vision of touring the country talking about America's Global role and protecting the institutions of democracy at home and abroad. I wasn't a fan of C.Rice during the W. Bush admin., because I thought we'd rushed into 2 wars focused on regime change before we had answers about 9/11, but it now seems to me that it is possible she was one of the voices of caution, reason, and humility during that time, though maybe those insights she was voicing in the interview came after.

[@thuglife1297]

Condoleezza Rice really looked Jon in the eyes and continued the false narrative of, "We thought they [Iraq] had weapons of mass destruction" lmfaooo.

[@dksu]

Sad to see Jon invite her on his show only to let her get away with this. He cut his teeth tearing apart the Bush administration on this very point. I guess after Trump the well-spoken, civil warmongers are the good guys now.

[@iKyleonGunz]

Because that may be what she really was told and continued to believe. It doesn't make it true, but it doesn't make it a lie coming from her, also.

[@photonAP]

@@dksu Good point.

[@photonAP]

@@iKyleonGunz Aren't you naive...sorry if you still have to grow up.

[@iKyleonGunz]

@@photonAP ...Do you know what naive means? Two things can be true at once.

[@ArmageddonAfterparty]

This is disappointing. I feel that interviewing war criminals should be done by the International Criminal court, as John Stewart fails to stop them from lying throughout it.

[@guzmas31]

So sad to see him do this. And accepting their assumption that policing the fighting anyone we don't like is for good reasons and OK if we can afford it and plan for what happens afterwards. It sickens me to see Jon Stewart do this; he was so much better.

[@scottkeller8890]

This was Colbert level cringe. Two war criminals and not a single hard question.

[@thor9563]

@@guzmas31 What kind of cheese do you like with your WHINE?? Your name is not familiar as a high level statesman who claims to have a better solution to the REAL problems these officials faced. We be the Big Dawg. Thank Almighty God! We are the most benevolent, least cruel, bigoted most generous and peace loving Big Dawg in all of human history. Happy Thanksgiving!

[@corbeau-_-]

the international criminal court - based in my country, is very limited as well. In both cases, money and political momentum decide a lot of the outcome. And they take a decade, or two per case. I was just a bit dissappointed by Jon, he usually is sharper than this. I suppose he too has a blindspot...

[@ArmageddonAfterparty]

@@corbeau-_- I am aware, it has become a figure of speech more than anything else tbh, as in reality I have no confidence in these institutions.

[@TheThoughtAssassin]

I never thought I'd see Jon Stewart giving a tongue bath to two war criminals.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

I mean he gave tongue baths to every guest on the Daily Show for years.

[@PutXi_Whipped]

Ana Kasparian has a new role model.

[@ellenweiss5850]

That is disgusting.

[@nemezidanemezida5110]

да. демпартия сша - соучастник войны в украине и израиле на стороне агрессоров

[@mtmitch]

@@ellenweiss5850😂r

[@CWRTalentPassitOn]

I want an online program with Hillary on Civics. We have zero education about our responsibilities as citizens.

[@dantex777]

It's nice to not only hear a real conversation, but I am treated as a mature and intelligent viewer that I can make my own personal decisions/opinions on how I felt about what was/and what wasn't said on my own with out having someone tell me how to feel about it. It's refreshing.

[@staceyhogan8807]

Wow !! I loved this interview!! I remember I first got into politics when I watched. Condalez Rise. Hearing with her testimony about Clearence Thompson. I believed her decades ago.And I was outraged by how they treated her!! I had the absolute Respect for her and her bravery. And my President Hillary Clinton absolute Respect!! I would love to hear Hillary Clinton say on air. What Foxholes started about her and how they still have never had proof of their accusations. And why you didn't sue Murdock and everysingle opinions for destroying your character.

[@whyputaname]

@@staceyhogan8807 .. One of the take aways I felt was that they both agree with each other on most of the issues that were talked about.. Women do that a lot easier then men do..

[@web-angel]

😂 it's called the banality of evil. It's to help you to forget that those women are murderesses and Jon is using his reputation with the public to help to wash their bloody hands.

[@paulmatters2641]

Comedian interviews mass murderers. This is the joke? Right?

[@cha0sniper]

Jon can claim all he wants that he's not a journalist, but holy shit. This is like what I'd expect from some long-form documentary-style interview, it's really good ^_^

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

With cordial interviews like this one, he takes cues from people like Terry Gross or BBC reporters. With hostile interviews where he's confident that the interviewee is going to lie, he takes cues from trial lawyers. In both cases there is a tremendous amount of research and preparation required. I think every journalist in this country should take note of what he's doing.

[@billh.1940]

He is a journalist of the highest order, but if he admits it, he could wind up burning in fox hell, they could buy his contract! Or on pbs, and if he says or does anything the overlords there don't like, he would get the Rose treatment! After all pbs are the lefty voice and believes in freedom, not!

[@HonestTherapist]

This is exactly the same as every other reporter! Not a single real question, just a platform for 2 of the most corrupt human beings on earth to pretend how virtuous they’ve been throughout their lives while laughing out loud talking about supporting dictators.

[@backstabingpike]

So remember when everybody was crying about him leaving The daily show this is why he left so he could interview and do what he wanted instead of having somebody look over his shoulder people never think about the long game

[@cha0sniper]

@@backstabingpike I mean, he did this kind of stuff on the daily show too, tho you're right that it wasn't to this extent. He left the daily show because he had done it for 15 years and was tired lol

[@NaveTierra90]

This was heartbreaking to watch. Jon didn't even call them out that it's not only that the US wasn't prepared for what came after, but what right does the US have to invade other nations in the first place. I guess I had him all wrong.

[@lylebardwell6716]

Jon has become a sellout. Sadly.

[@J.NeiraAuthor]

@@lylebardwell6716 Wrong

[@morocco8990]

John Stewart was always and is propagandist of New Liberals agenda. Nothing new here.

[@J.NeiraAuthor]

@@morocco8990 Tell me which important media figures completely disagree with your politics but you don't think they're a "shill." You people are so small minded that everything from a mainstream figure that disagrees with your personal morality ("America bad!" in your case) is dismissed as paid off or evil.

[@morocco8990]

@@J.NeiraAuthor If you work at Main Stream media then you are a propagandist. And if you interview war criminals and be so soft on them and align with their blatant lies then you are an evil.

[@TheStrodog71]

That was an OUTSTANDING and substantive interview.

[@FrayedSanity1981]

Condoleezza Rice belongs in prison! It is unbelivable to me that she, Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld never got tried for warcrimes!

[@bbob70]

And Hillary Clinton does not belong in prison? She and Obama wrecked Libya and Syria, she keeps fearmongering about Russia including spreading the lie that "Russia hacked the election" . It is that view of Russia as the enemy and the expansion of NATO that sowed the seeds of the Ukraine war.

[@russellburgess684]

Rice was not the only person on that stage who is a war criminal. And I'm not talking about Jon Stewart.

[@Wayzor_]

@@russellburgess684 This old crap? lol how'd those midterms go? MAGA pos

[@russellburgess684]

@@Wayzor_ Try again. Voted for Nader twice. Volunteered for Kucinich. Voted for McKinney in 08. Would have held my nose and voted for Sanders despite some terrible foreign policy votes. Will never support the corporatist, war mongering duopoly/kleptocracy regardless if it's an ass or elephant.

[@FrayedSanity1981]

@@russellburgess684 Yeah, please. She and Hillary can share a cell as far as Im concerned. =)

[@FedePetro]

She says casually “of course we had to keep strategic with some authoritarian regimes” the narcissism and the lack of awareness of those words. We had these murderous regimes in South America BECAUSE of US intervention. The implications of that, the lives lost, the death of art and free speech, It’s heartbreaking and shocking

[@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists]

nevertheless its a valid and important point of foreign policies

[@NubaNarmer]

A necessary evil.

[@HCaulfield115]

It had to be done. Join the real world

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

@@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists No it is not. Why are you defending sociopaths?

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

@@HCaulfield115 Nonsense. WTF is wrong with you?

[@prataprudra]

Can’t believe Jon is not pushing back on some of the statements. rice went over CIA crimes in latin America like a footnote. So disappointing.

[@roughhabit9085]

No she admitted they supported juntas that fought against communism. That was after all what the Cold War was about- fighting the expanding sphere of communism.

[@tomconnor8479]

I think Stewart wasn't talking to them to publicly prove them wrong but rather to allow the 2 former Secretaries of State to lay out their hypocrisies for podcast listeners. He challenged them both and gave them space to skewer themselves with their responses. My take away was/is-It's a good thing that neither Clinton nor Rice are in positions of power.

[@ashaide]

He doesn't have to. With the little pushes he's done, he's let Rice and Clinton make his points for him. If you push people o the level of these two with direct accusations, they know how to respond to that. They can even walk out. But because Jon is engaging in a conversation, they sit there and talk, revealing more than what they would if someone was aggressive against them

[@Becky_Cal]

Agree!

[@gloomgirl777]

This was a very disappointing interview, and I think it tarnishes Jon Stewart's legacy of holding power to account.

[@Thomas-Bradley]

It is so rich of Condoleezza Rice to criticise Putin when her former boss also did the same thing to Iraq 20 years ago with her support. Oh, and let's not forget that Hillary supported the war as well so really these two women are the epitome of American Neocon, they sound so eloquent and their opinions seem to carry so much weight of intelligence despite the fact that their policies were woefully wrong. Does not matter if America allows their politicians to be criticised if thousand of innocent people outside of America's border are killed anyway due to these politicians' foreign policy!

[@Miiro55]

Sad state for journalists when a comedian does better interviews than most. Happy to have Jon back

[@Rumplesti1tskin]

He's more than a comedian at this point in his career, and has been for at least the last two decades.

[@cara804]

There's a strong correlation between great humorist and intelligence.

[@koch1467]

He did not push back on the WMD lie and just allowed them to spout imperialist nonsense.

[@KingMinosxxvi]

Sad state of you when you believe this is journalism.

[@enterpassword3313]

@@KingMinosxxvi its reflective of how bad the typical journalism is that this conversation can recieve such high praise

[@greengenes5129]

Those politicians are God-damned spectacular at avoiding questions. It's astonishing how easily they shift accountability for their actions. It's like it comes natural, or something.

[@skynet4496]

He didn't even ask the questions that he did when he had his show. He's a stupid sellout

[@IanLesiuk]

I'm not making excuses for some people, but there is a lot more that goes in to politics than what meets the eye. For example, it's really not as simple as "let's stop supporting Ukraine and give that money to the people"

[@adenlind840]

@@IanLesiuk yeh it's more like "let's not stage a coup on Russia's border hoping they (Ukraine) join NATO who's been involved in countless failed regime change wars and was setup to tackle the soviet union forcing them to invade and take over part of the country for their own protection".

[@IanLesiuk]

@@adenlind840 what? Russia did not attack Ukraine "for their own protection". Ukraine was not a threat to Russia. NATO wasn't either. Putin just had a problem with the liberal west, but not so much a problem with the right-wing west. Which is why he helped Trump get elected

[@adenlind840]

@@IanLesiuk oh my god, you are officially a product of propaganda, congratz

[@tonybrown512]

Gotta give credit where its due. Staying true to the name, you are definitely giving us a good example of "the problem" with this episode. Though probably not so much in the way you might imagine.

[@daysjours]

Here, here. I wish he had addressed the open slave markets in Libya after Clinton destroyed that country. Or asked Ms. Rice about the 1 million dead in Iraq. How these women sleep at night is a mystery.

[@ChannelMath]

you mean this time Stewart is the problem

[@kathyborthwick6738LakotaEmoji]

Very good point!

[@kathyborthwick6738LakotaEmoji]

@@daysjoursThese markets are flourishing !

[@mindped]

for real!

[@jeffhaase9979]

It is great to see adults talk like adults no matter their point of view.

[@Woosaidthat]

That’s right. One can sense the mutual respect in the room.

[@juliocortazar8143]

Not very intelligent when "condi" says that "we have improved democratic conditions around the world", given that the usa is now an oligarchy. And this discussion proves that there is only one political party at the service of that oligrchy.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

@@juliocortazar8143yea they just lie and lie

[@LarryGarcia-lz2zb]

Condi . . Respect you mucho . . but still . . The Republican Party . . is in a state of an [ Oligarchy ] . . and those in Power . . don’t speak out . I’m bored . . and thinking . . What am I going to have for lunch . . 🥁 🥁 . . 🍔 🍟 🥤 . .

[@fetti22]

These 2 politicians should be locked up in jail forever

[@hwilder111]

War criminals!!

[@juancarlo888]

Amen. We don't need a "conversation" we these people. We need trials.

[@nodescriptionavailable3842]

I can't believe how far Jon Stewart has fallen

[@jaws392]

@No Description Available: it’s honestly sad. He was a massive critic of the Iraq war and he is letting these two lie. The only thing I can think off why is he doing this, is because he is getting paid from someone in the US government

[@nodescriptionavailable3842]

@jaws392 seriously was he threatened ffs

[@dvklaveren]

I'm glad that Jon let them answer the questions fully. It gave me a lot to think about, but probably not in the way they intended.

[@sebastienlundby-thomas7823]

Absolutely agree. There was some good take aways and others that let me know their thoughts where I highly disagree with some fundamental assumptions. But I'd rather hear their view and judge it for myself which is why I don't think he us rebutting every time he disagrees.

[@I.Odnamra]

You must be young. Shame.

[@dvklaveren]

@@I.Odnamra I'm thirty.

[@I.Odnamra]

@@dvklaveren now that is disturbing.

[@dvklaveren]

@@I.Odnamra Why's that so disturbing lol? I'm not American. These are not my politicians. I don't place it in the same cultural context as you. They do not represent me or my country or my country's policies. I just don't think about them that deeply and I doubt many Americans do. So of course I'm going into this with some measure of blindness. Yet I want to hear their doublespeak for myself. I don't want to hear Jon constantly guiding the conversation because then it is not as self-evident how transparently abusive of power they are and how jovially they will, unprompted, finish each other's sentences as if leaving other countries alone is some ridiculous notion. I don't need Jon to explain why this is bad. I am an adult, I have a thing called a brain and whenever that brain is not being used to remember useless fan theories about pokemon, I like using it.

[@DaveE99]

“Used the issue not to solve the problem , but to consolidate power for themselves”. Wow

It must have been hard for John not to go after the "We thought Sadam hat chemical Weapons" thin Ms Rice said.

[@theglowcloud2215]

Jon only goes after Republicans who say those things. Democrats have a perpetual shield when it comes to their support of the Bush admin in going into Iraq.

[@mikehw7526]

The Problem with Jon Stewart is that he softballed this interview.Stewart knows that Rice is lying about WMD's and does not confront her.Stewart used to do pieces on Rice lying about WMDs.

[@panama2468]

Isn't his most famous clip of when he grilled Judith Miller for contribution to leading the American public into supporting the Iraq war. I wonder what happened to him

[@sebastienlundby-thomas7823]

Valid points. I think one question is what is the purpose of the interviews on this show. In these sort of interviews he has been trying to let the other person speak more. I agree id like to see him push back more how he has/does in other formats, but the point might be he is trying to put out these connecting threads and just letting the interviewees fully respond. Don't think it's as sinister as the implication here was

[@lesizmor9079]

Mike, do you think Stewart forgot how to be confrontational? Of course not-- he soft-balled this particular interview for a reason. He wanted them to speak freely.

[@reynardclinton1330]

Wait for part 2 guys

[@yodythewoadie]

Consider the liberal center demographic a show like this is obviously aimed at. You know before Hillary agreed to go on the show a pact was made for Jon to not inquire about the obvious stuff. And have you seen the Clinton body count??

[@mkfd4571]

What an awesome conversation to be able to listen to… thank you, Jon. Should be required watching for students of International Relations…

[@opheliahamlet3508]

You're right. But we need to add every student to that required watching list.

[@MA-qe2sn]

Stewart is a fraud-his Dad worked for Dept of Treasury& his brother was a WallstreetCOO. He’s s plant to deflect and divide Americans-he especially pushes racial division. Why? Because if poor white&black people are busy blaming each other they won’t blame the Ruling Class who run things. Has JS ever once mentioned the NSA, the CFR, the Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, Central Banks, Darpa...??? Nope: and he won’t because he’ll virtue signal by claiming he supports Veterans but he never calls out the Globalists&Banking Dynasties behind all wars.

[@j7j7j7j7x]

yes, in a class on psycopaths and war criminals :)

[@joshuafitch6871]

What a good conversation. People need to hear more of this style of conversation with former and current powerful politicians. I think they need it too. It keeps people questioning and promoting higher degrees of thought.

[@mimoiah]

Conversation? Sounds more like US propaganda. Arrogant US fascist think they could classify country by who is good and who is evil, there is one evil only and it is the United Snakes of America

[@RogerLewis-ey2tt]

You don't think it normalizes us to accept a comfortable world domination?

[@dlw1221]

isnt enough words in the human vocabulary for me to describe my love for Madam Sec. Clinton. This bit$h plays zero games and knowing how much Putty and China FEAR her makes it even more practical to at least use her come 2024 NOT Putin's boy toy.

[@shawnosborne163]

Nothing will ever discredited these shameless repitles . These two people have more blood on their hands than all the world serial killers put together.

[@astheskylarksings]

Da fuq? “Nothing will ever discredited these shameless reptiles.” 26 likes to an unintelligible comment. This is America.

[@ChannelMath]

@@astheskylarksings please. obviously Shawn meant "discredit". you couldn't figure that out? Also, there is only one like. At least that's what I'm shown

[@astheskylarksings]

@@ChannelMath eh? What does: “Nothing will ever discredit these shameless reptiles” mean? 😅

[@adenlind840]

@@astheskylarksings do you not speak english? Which language do you speak and I'll try and translate it for you

[@astheskylarksings]

@@adenlind840 let’s start with English. 🤷‍♂️ Nothing will ever discredit these shameless reptiles.” Explain what this means. That they are loved and can say anything they want?

[@chrish2729]

Thank you for bringing these two together to have hard conversations Jon. I'd love a multipart series.

[@spicyirwin5835]

YES! Young girls need to see real role models!

[@naterod]

I’d love this to become a segment, with alternating guests.

[@AS-kw5yj]

​@@spicyirwin5835 Role models!? These imperialist war criminals?? Why are you using my gender for this, and why must we reduce everything that women are involved with, to our gender? FFS see us as humans.

[@traviscutler9912]

Democracy has been spread pretty f'ing thin under these two. John giving a platform to them without asking the real questions was as bad as Bill Maher's interview with Benjamin Netanyahu and accepting everything he said as fact. Super disappointed with John helping rehabilitate these literal war criminals (not my opinion, the legal definition under the UN), WHY!?!?!

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@spicyirwin5835 Corporate Insiders? That is what you consider to be a role model?? Smdh.

[@charleslee5311]

That is what a presidential debate should look like! Honest and insightful, while placing the focus on the realities of the modern world and potential solutions without attacks or hyperbole. Well Done!

[@maxheadrom3088]

1.5 people were honest and 1.5 were not.

[@thelvl1bandit345]

jon let condi get away with the "we thought saddam had wmds" line.

[@thewaffle003]

@@thelvl1bandit345 yeah that was rough.

[@shafts2447]

He let those 2 war criminals spout propaganda unchecked.

[@kjam1709]

Jon: do this again. A part 2. So much more to cover Amazing & illuminating interview. Incredible. They trust you-

[@dangoepfert4037]

That’s the problem - no guts to break that trust and ask what should’ve been asked - not even the slightest bit of pushback with 2 war criminals at the table. I’m still stewing at one an opportunity lost this was.

[@coachtaewherbalife8817]

How about discussing how China is having a positive influence in Africa and the Middle East, often capitalizing on American mistakes?

[@jdavis.fw303]

Thank you John and team, this is the kind of crossing the political divide to have real conversations we need. I know you often reject being called a journalist but you've done and overseen some of the greatest journalistic work of the last 20 years.

[@tcsailair7750]

It's 2 war criminals and their fucking PR man, fuck everything about this

[@peterford9369]

You're right of course but!! This kind of conversation is working so wonderfully because there is nobody in the room, with the other point of view. There are 3 liberally minded people here, hashing out how things are and should be. To show a true debate ya have to have the conservative view in the room as well. Personally I totally agree with this discussion,but to be fair the other side should be here as well. If that side gets moved that would be great.

[@enterpassword3313]

There is absolutely zero political divides being crossed here. Its the most one sided talking points being conveyed without any criticism

[@enterpassword3313]

@@peterford9369 part of the problem with these people is they never have discussions with anyone who is going to give them any proper criticism, ever. Jon stweart literally gave an award to a nazi from ukraine the other week, but they all call it russian propaganda

[@peterford9369]

@@enterpassword3313 Exactly. But honestly, I'm wondering what true conservative Republicans even believe anymore. Ever since McConnell did what he did to Obama, I don't think the Republicans have a true definition of what conservative means in the political scheme of things.

[@Kate-oy6yv]

We need more John Stewarts in the world

[@JuuB406]

"Be the Jon Stewart you hope to see in the world" - Arleen Lorrance (Beau of the fifth column)

[@ricardoggarcia3638]

Yes we do!

[@johnf8064]

Leibowitz

[@spicyirwin5835]

That's for sure! Compassion for others with integrity to fight for it.💜🙏💜

[@traviscutler9912]

Democracy has been spread pretty f'ing thin under these two. John giving a platform to them without asking the real questions was as bad as Bill Maher's interview with Benjamin Netanyahu and accepting everything he said as fact. Super disappointed with John helping rehabilitate these literal war criminals (not my opinion, the legal definition under the UN), WHY!?!?!

[@mohammedhosain6605]

This breaks my heart. To see JS just let them go on wo calling on their BS when they were discussing world politics.

[@AtillatheFun]

This want an attack. This was a conversation. You don’t randomly start yelling at someone you are talking to. They are discussing the nuances of democracy and how it can just be a veil for autocrats. We know what they are responsible for in the Middle East and elsewhere, and we don’t need a rehashing of the same old.

[@mikeytopaz4601]

Look, you can't expect the man to take a flame thrower to their faces... He's got a show to run, and future guests he wants to keep from scaring away. He did great. Period. He asked most of the relevant questions, many of which were toughies for those two neo-cons. The smart kids know what he accomplished in that interview, everybody else isn't going to change their minds anyhow...

[@bbob70]

Jon Stewart has always been an establishment puppet.

[@demolitionsexpert]

@@AtillatheFun

[@mikeytopaz4601]

@@bbob70 I mean, isn't anyone whose career revolves around the mainstream? Some are just more enthusiastic about their devotion to the status quo than others, while others play the role of pushing the envelope, but always within the reasonable boundaries of the establishment. There are a lot of things that Stewart has done for our culture, and for disenfranchised segments of the population through his direct challenges to authority, but to stay operational while reaching the most viewers possible, I don't see how else he'll accomplish that besides keeping on good terms with said establishment.

[@LEM19284]

I’m bathing in the wonder of impeccable intellect that this conversation brought BACK to us all. I don’t know how this happened, but it’s really fascinating that it did.

[@patrickhearther]

Hello Callie how are you doing today?.....this conversation is one of a kind it's mind blowing with deep message behind the scene...i hope you are enjoying every minute of the show Callie?

[@RogerLewis-ey2tt]

Libya. Iraq. Judge by the fruits.

[@zachk5249]

Bro what?

[@charlesreid9337]

i can't imagine being so dimwitted i thought this was intellectual conversation

[@Creaserunner]

Empires die. Jon’s ultimate argument. This conversation was amazing.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

USA AND BRITAIN ARE GOING DOWN...because there is a new Sheriff in town and its not USA anymore...BRICS KICKS US ASS

[@CK-ur2ev]

All nations, not just empires, will die eventually. How can something that did not exist in the beginning of time see the end of time?

[@medicnmute]

@@CK-ur2ev is that a quote from somewhere? Sounds like a very interesting viewpoint of time

[@thewaffle003]

@@CK-ur2ev That's the project, man. Let's see how far we can take this thing.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

America is not an empire. An empire doesn't say conquer a country like Japan, put a gun to their heads, and then say "Japan, destroy our auto industry." An empire doesn't conquer a country like Iraq and then say "Iraq, elect Sadrists into parliament, deny us the right to keep any permanent bases in your country in 2008 SOFA, and let Russia use your airspace." An empire doesn't conquer a country like Afghanistan and then say "Afghanistan, write Islam into your constitution and make it illegal to convert to Christianity." Etc.

[@deeann9143]

Thanks Jon for this very informative conversation. This is what the public needs to see more of. Informal discussions with knowledgeable officials done respectfully. I truly learned from this intelligent conversation. Thanks Jon

[@AvantTom]

I’m honestly surprised they even agreed to do this.

[@EattheApple666]

Why, three adults talking about issues. This is the way it was before Barack was elected. Whitey lost their minds and they have not come back to reality.

[@willcerf757]

Maybe you’re too young to remember but politicians in the US traditionally don’t have antagonism w press and journalism, you can disagree with them but politicians were transparent in general and open with the press or whoever. It was bad form not to be. Conversations like this were the norm. Accountability to press and public were the norm. The last years have been unusual.

[@MakeSomeNoisePlaylists]

Why that ?

[@Kalepsis]

Same. Corrupt neolibs like Clinton and Rice hardly ever deign to look down from their ivory towers built by corporate donor money long enough to recognize the existence of progressives like Jon. They fear that their voters might actually listen to him and demand change in the democratic party. What they don't seem to realize is that the voters are far more progressive than we were in the 90s, and their corruption and unwillingness to serve the needs of the populace has been laid bare over the last two decades. We see them for what they are, and we're tired of voting for the lesser evil.

[@92jwiener]

@@willcerf757 I'd say I'm a little too young to remember. I'm not a child but I was in high school during Obama. When do you think that shift began? I would think it started around Bush Jr. or Clinton times, but I don't have the memory or age to state that convincingly.

[@LEM19284]

That was the best interview ever and it should win awards!

[@patrickhearther]

Hello Callie how are you doing today?....Brilliant interview - with all the noise in the media one sometimes forget that there are actually intelligent people in America.....i hope you are enjoying the show?

[@ChannelMath]

What was the most offensive part of this for everyone? For me it was when Condi said "when you are a superpower, you tend to involve yourself in places all over the world". That use of the passive voice, "you", which in fact was actually HER, really infuriated me.

[@m0nkey13]

I expected all the lies these two war criminals spewed. Jon acting like a spineless worm was the big disappointment.

[@magnetiktrax]

Hilarious, you seem to think Rice is alone in having a desire to involve the US everywhere.

[@fedupfaces]

It was offensive that this interviewer had his balls checked at the studio door before this interview! What a hack j. Stewart is!! Gee Jon you can’t ask the war criminal Hillary why we left Libya a failed smoldering wreck with open air slave auctions?!?!?!? What a sad remnant of himself!!

[@jimdolen225]

@@magnetiktrax he didn't say it was just her but she didn't push back on going to war in Iraq where countless American and Iraqi citizens were killed and maimed

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

@@magnetiktrax she isn't, she is but one of many from both parties who support interventionist policies.

[@squadronlogistics]

They tip toe'd and jumped over that monsterous hurdle of defense contractors 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣 great interview ‼️

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

The question is asking for speculation and an answer within this timeframe. On the one hand there's a clear answer if you're not someone with connections to the government. On the other, you don't get much more complicated than geopolitics and diplomacy, and Jon of course knows this and allowed Hillary to take a small sample of why we're in a diplomatic "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position.

[@testingtesting8785]

I think they know defense is what America America. Without our military capabilities, I doubt other countries would respect our diplomats. Speak softy and carry a big stick works only if you have a big stick.

[@x.y.1215]

Both of these women, their friends and their families are making money off of their “defense” contract stocks. Defense contractors own the Fed. They can’t say a peep to offend their corporate donors.

[@EricLeafericson]

@@testingtesting8785 While that is true, it's not really a morally sound justification. America is constantly interfering with other democracies with coups, propaganda, giving money to the campaigns of madmen who they then stab in the back like Saddam Hussein, and economic isolation. When these things create chaos and violence, that creates a market for war, which is good for defense contractors. Basically, it's in the financial interests of defense contractors to destabilize the world. I guess the quote should be "speak softly, spread violence and ruin, and carry a big stick in case anyone tries to stop you from ruining people's lives." Not really as pithy though.

[@TheArcaneMaster]

lol ikr. The look on Condi's face when he said Lockheed Martin was priceless

[@morgaffi]

I had to stop thinking of Jon Stewart as a comedian in order to not be constantly amazed by his grasp of history in world affairs. He has in front of him two people with somewhat different views on many critical matters, and yet he managed a remarkably civil and informed conversation, he has all the qualities of a great reporter

[@smythteamofwilliampittsoth32]

Agree. Thank you Jon Stewart. Jon is serving a very important role in our current situation.

[@MichaelHarris-wo7od]

Bravo John, 👏👏👏👏 Bravo. You take a common sense and matters of fact approach to the larger issues at hand to make a point so that individuals who try and argue against those points can't really defend their stances and sound sincere doing it. It's a talent and you have it my friend.

[@MA-qe2sn]

Stewart is a fraud-his Dad worked for Dept of Treasury& his brother was a WallstreetCOO. He’s a plant to deflect and divide Americans-he especially pushes racial division. Why? Because if poor white&black people are busy blaming each other they won’t blame the Ruling Class who run things. Has JS ever once mentioned the NSA, the CFR, the Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, Central Banks, Darpa...??? Nope: and he won’t because he’ll virtue signal by claiming he supports Veterans but he never calls out the Globalists&Banking Dynasties behind all wars.

[@KingMinosxxvi]

sure...whatever you say.

[@koch1467]

It was awful that he allowed the "we believed he had weapons of mass destruction"-lie to go unchallenged.

[@kimpetersen358]

This interview should have lasted several hours ! Thank you 👍

[@patrickhearther]

Hello Kim how are you doing today?..... i'm happy for Sandra and Bill may God bless their new home....i hope you are enjoying the show?

[@KashHill-l3y]

Why the truth might slip out

[@andreipolytov1059]

Это интервью должен проводить судья с прокурором.

[@hristopopov7345]

Jon is amazing - not only a fantastic comedian, one of the very best talk show hosts ever, but also able to discuss such a difficult topic so intelligently

[@smythteamofwilliampittsoth32]

well said

[@christieannice2859]

Absolutely...One person can make a difference, United we stand humanity, the world succeeds ✌

[@traviscutler9912]

Democracy has been spread pretty f'ing thin under these two. John giving a platform to them without asking the real questions was as bad as Bill Maher's interview with Benjamin Netanyahu and accepting everything he said as fact. Super disappointed with John helping rehabilitate these literal war criminals (not my opinion, the legal definition under the UN), WHY!?!?!

[@christieannice2859]

@@traviscutler9912 Hard to find anyone without something..Compared to Trump though 🤔

[@4leafclover243]

Not to understate that he is very respectful. I follow sometimes Bill Maher’s podcast occasionally .. totally opposite. I don’t agree with a lot of Bill’a political view but Jon.. you listen regardless if you disagree and that’s how a civilized society is supposed to behave.

[@_-martin-_]

I wish Chris Hedges or Jimmy Dore would have been invited to this interview. They would have called out these insane war mongering women!

[@tubetorpedo]

Exact reason people like those are not invited. That would ruin good propaganda.

[@roughhabit9085]

So instead of a civilised conversation you would be in favour of summary execution . That is the Nazi way.

[@_-martin-_]

@@roughhabit9085 There is nothing civilized about the pain and suffering that Hillary and Rice have brought to this world.

[@KGchannel01]

Please do a follow up where you take time to discuss the tough questions these two were so quick to deflect and redirect!

[@robertl.fallin7062]

I know one question Condoleezza Rice will never answer is why the lie over the CIA informing you of the intelligence warnings of a high jacking! Damnd you Rice.

[@davidtaliaferro]

Maybe you need to listen better.

[@KGchannel01]

@@davidtaliaferroHa, okay, you got me! It must be my own fault if I found their answers less than forthcoming when Jon asked about the military industrial complex or America's regime change efforts?

[@Witless-Pawn]

@@davidtaliaferro you completely miss all the redirect non answers. Typical political talk where you go round and round and get no answer

[@angelaasadi9283]

George Carlin once said years ago that John Stewart was destined to do great things……. he was right. Thank you for being a voice of reason and standing up to power. We need more voices like yours.

[@addyred1861]

He would be sad now seeing this.

[@akrenwinkle]

@@addyred1861 You are 100% right. I could go on and on, but I'll say one thing for both women. One was a chief architect for the disastrous wars for oil, minerals, security, and rebuilding profits in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Not one single 9/11 hijacker was from either nation.) The other one voted for these cockamamie schemes that brought death and destruction to hundreds of thousands, mostly civilians, the majority women, children, the aged. Added bonus for chutzpah: Clinton voted for the Defense of Marriage Act. You know, because her marriage was- in her word- "sacred."

[@eyeTHC]

John Stewart is not the same as he was. He’s a shill like the rest of the corporate media.

[@ajsans9161]

Lmao! “Standing up”? What video did you watch. These war mongering women had Jon scared to push back.

[@akrenwinkle]

@@ajsans9161 You're right, or, as it's usually written on these boards, your right.

[@Nanawompwomp]

One of the best and most educative debates l have ever listened to amongst both sides of the aisle and an accomplished moderator. Can we have more of this, Mr. Jon Stewart?

[@TheBagwell269]

You really don't have to respect someone's religious beliefs, you do have to respect their right to have a religious belief. There's a subtle difference that many Americans have yet to grasp.

[@TheAureliac]

And she completely ignored the fact that in catering to one person's--or even a majority's--religious beliefs, everyone else's may be sacrificed. Respecting that right does not mean letting them debase human rights.

[@user-lr4dj8fs6e]

I like to say, "People who like to tell you what to think; instead of to think, are only trying to control you."

[@heffe4257]

So you respect corrupt murderers and war criminals? Clown.

[@michaeladkins6]

How far do you have to go in respecting their religious beliefs?

[@TheAureliac]

@@michaeladkins6 With smokers, we drew the line at "when we have to breathe their smoke". So when you expect us to suffer from your religious beliefs, that's too far. IMO.

[@iversonmatthew]

I’ve been denied medical care 6 times going through 13 major surgeries. Begging for medical care here is the price of my freedom.

[@janicegullett8779]

That is heart breaking and I am sure very scary for you. As a Canadian I have had 5 major procedures in my life the last two, knee replacements in the last 4 years with NO COST to me and just part of our medical coverage. It has always confused me why the US considers our medical care as socialized when it is nothing more than a Canadian right for good health care, not perfect but so much better than many.

[@trishaferrand1395]

Voting for candidates who will implement some version of medicare is the answer. We have the freedom to do that.

[@fisherking7798]

And need not be there is absolutely no reason why Americans should not have good and affordable healthcare

[@notawinemom8540]

@@janicegullett8779 In the US the for profit healthcare industry makes campaign contributions to politicians to keep them from passing Medicare for All (which has the support of 70% of the population). It's impossible to get anything like that done because the culture war causes voters to be easily distracted & manipulated. These industries, including big pharma, also spend billions in advertising each year on television. Every other ad on cable news is some pill for erectile dysfunction. They're the biggest customers of our "news." So when we have political primaries, the "news" smears any candidate that supports popular policies, like Medicare for All, & tells viewers to vote for the "moderate" like Hillary Clinton because they're "more electable." They don't really ever back those statements up with data, because the polling data shows that's not true. Unfortunately, liberal voters in the US are really easily manipulated by corporate media and progressives are emotionally battered if they try to demand anything. I don't believe change is possible in a political & economic system that is this far gone. The top 1% owns the entire political duopoly.

[@hotrox2112]

@@trishaferrand1395 ...it turns out voting is a cure for nothing...

[@yusuphmligiliche8353]

Thank you Stewart for putting together this thought stimulating conversation.

[@sushmitahodges9604]

As a trained historian and educator who teaches Modern World History and Global Issues I take umbrage at terms like "those people" and " country" when talking about India and the Kurds.. this coming after talking about the importance of humility! My students certainly know better..

[@sushmitahodges9604]

I meant "that country!"

[@Yoooooomoma]

This was a hard watch. both these women should be in jail PERIOD

[@grantmoore8790]

They can't just admit they did something wrong. Completely unapologetic in their war crimes.

[@akapotato]

They are so glib and slick, self righteous wow, scary!

[@EllisIsland2023]

Would love to see more discussions with both sides. Very meaningful even a year later.

[@run4lit]

Jon you failed to push back on "strategic relationship." On the ground, propping up a "dictator for life” is the antithesis of democracy, which the US FP pursues in the name of "strategic relationship." You can't have the cake and eat it too. Thanks for all you do.

[@imbalancedstatus8824]

Jon is not in interested in destroying the system

[@bcfrrps]

Diplomacy is not playground antics that the teacher watches. You might look it up

[@danlouie352]

@@imbalancedstatus8824 Let's destroy the system. Okay what do you want to replace it with? Fuck that. I just wanted to destroy it. I don't care what happens afterwards. That's your problem.....

[@vjcodec]

Right on, most people want to destroy the system, and think that's the answer. same with those civil war peepaws. i always wondered what would have happened if those brainworm zombies got control of congress that they and we would have said. "ok some me the money" imagine those people trying to hold a senate session. hahah

[@vjcodec]

see a lot of comments of Jon being to soft or not pushing back. These two are media trained to the max. The more you make them feel they have the upperhand to more they will slip up. the more you push them on things the more they will deflect.

[@opensourceworldviews]

Funny how they both agree on so much about US interventions...almost makes you think there is really just one party!

[@ukaszg8681]

Back then there was.

[@mikeytopaz4601]

The "almost" is relevant when you consider that the two parties essentially differ over cultural policy, or what I consider, "window dressing." But where it comes to military expenditure, war profiteering, pandering to big business endeavors while throwing the American working citizen overboard, etc., they are very much the same party.

[@adeptus333777]

There was and still is, only the corporate party.

[@gbengaelehinafe6395]

I think the flaw is thinking the two party will yield different results in the first place. The two party we have is just a vehicle and mechanism to achieve power, beyond that, it’s ONE American System and both parties work within that framework and thereby yield similar results irrespective of what party vehicle got you into power.

[@rigobertogalvez8247]

Back then there was . This is funny .👍

[@sribaba5633]

This looks and feels like Jon is part of the club.

[@rasabilly]

Sold out

[@jhilbertdrums]

Sad…..

[@demolitionsexpert]

only way he got this interview approved. it is now a marketing piece. they knew the outcome before it was done

[@micbear9334]

@@demolitionsexpert and somehow people think we don't have censorship.

[@ricksflicks-]

He is definitely part of the propaganda machine. Softballing war criminals is a sign he has completely lost his way.

[@familyguy19091]

The old school could talk to each other On both sides Red or blue. I hope we keep having conversations like this

[@hsavage2899]

Relitigating our mistakes IS important so that we can correct and not make that mistake again. While I believe Condoleeza’s intentions are good, she should be better about admission of our mistakes as a country. Again, thank you Jon for bringing up these world domination questions.

[@janvanveelen]

' mistakes ARE important..' '...so that we can correct them..' '..she should do better in regard to our...' '...these questions about world domination.' Proper English is important as it helps you to express yourself clearly.

[@kmo9790]

@@janvanveelen Your first and third corrections are not correct in the context of what the person is saying. English may not be their first language.

[@emhu2594]

Condoleeza Rices intentions are good...........hoh boy no wonder why the US is in its current state with ignorant idiots like this voting on both sides

[@csp.9203]

@@janvanveelen embarrassing

[@eottoe2001]

You are too polite.

[@ivorsubasic4013]

Dear Mr Stewart, what you should have done when these two entered the room is make a civil arrest and find a way to deliver them to the court that would have any authority to judge them for their warcrimes

[@Fantabiscuit]

When you’re partly responsible for millions of deaths, it’s hard for a person to face that reality if they ain’t complete psychopaths. So what we get is these two people, coping, weaving, hiding, diverting, smoothing-over….

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

This is the best take!

[@dawnbrown6578]

You have no idea what it takes to be a leader. They study their enemies and make tough choices. I t hink you're late for your shift at McDonald's.

[@AA-cg3gd]

@@dawnbrown6578 So you think they have nothing to answer for? Newsflash there were no "weapons of mass deception." If you still believe that you don't even qualify to work at McDonald's.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

Putting aside you pulled "millions" out of thin air, people like you are responsible for those deaths because you ensured every atrocity the insurgents committed became a propaganda victory. 87% of civilians in Iraq were not killed by coalition forces according to Iraq Body Count, and they committed senseless carnage in large part because they knew people like you would blame their Western enemies. How else do you explain such bizarre events as "The July Soccer Bombings" which seemed to target no particular sect and were just to 'get attention'?

[@srenheidegger4417]

These are the personification of a tool.

[@35Daniel]

It's not about the US government "pulling back", it's about the US refocusing on people, environmental and economic priorities at home and abroad in a way that is "humble", democratic and diplomatic.

[@brightmuronda2678]

After all what we know about WMDs, I was expecting a little more contrition from Rice.

[@ChannelMath]

They never do and never will (and not just these two). It's horrifying

[@moochee22]

No shame. None. She's despicable.

[@PutXi_Whipped]

I don’t expect much from psychopaths TBF

[@donnac5857]

We need more conversations like this with Rice, Clinton & Stewart. We do need more of a balance in strengthen America. Thank you.

[@dbarker7794]

No we don't. We need people to wake up and stop worshipping political and media celebrities. They don't give a damn about you.

[@saemsyed2275]

I love you Jon, but getting 2 of the biggest Warhawks to talk about authoritarian regimes was....ironic.

[@grymjaw]

I understand what you mean and agree somewhat but I think there can be a distinction. Authoritarianism at home can be very different from authoritarianism abroad, and they don’t always go hand in hand.

[@mariojanaf5474]

@@grymjaw usually is, but still, I'm not from the states...I can see only a one-sided USA raping every country they can of resources and free will...getting them addicted to the dollar as currency...spreading freedom - USA freedom... Africom is the next stage...

[@grymjaw]

@@mariojanaf5474 You’re not wrong at all

[@JRMCNEA]

No it cant. People seem to forget what authoriteriaism in America has done. Our government has been targeting groups inside our country in the same way it does those outside. We just as a reflex seem to have these "its not what it is" goggles we put on when at home. MLK and Malcolm X were just individual acts of violence. But an Iranian girl gets killed is from the very top of the government there. Our allies are carrying out terror attacks in europe. But we are under the patriot act in the U.S. to protect us from terror. Our government has been lying to us since its creation. But we act loke abused children running into the arms of their abusive parents.

[@Anuchan]

The international stage still relies on a balance of power. In spite of events in recent years, people around the world still appreciate American strength and look to us for leadership.

[@juanitawallo663]

Just listened to this interview and learned sooo much about what the USA does around the world to help friends as well as enemy’s. It is one of the most enlightening interviews I’ve ever heard. Please listen if you are looking for good info about American foreign policy and a reason to be a proud American.

[@adenlind840]

giving awards to neo nazis and now this, keep up the good fight Jon

[@DanDSays]

I was really hoping for catch a predator twist here, where these 2 get arrested at the end for war crimes.

[@christophersare]

Ladies, you may have been wondering why I really invited you here tonight. Offstage there are a number of men with handcuffs....

[@russellburgess684]

😂😂😂

[@garineess]

Jon always reflects the most important issues of our society with humor and satire. He is knowledgable host with special taste to whom invite as his guests to answer the questions. Thank you Madam secretaries for the good talk.

[@curtrice6060]

I hope a large % of the 1 m whom have digested this program, do as I am , and review this discussion again, after 9 months 🤓🧐😁🤗, 🥰🇺🇸🤗 !

[@muselabmusic]

This is so painful. We need old Jon Stewart to confront new Jon Stewart

[@st.emilychristianson5609]

💯💯💯

[@stewpacalypse7104]

I don't know if watching Jon interview people like this is driving me crazy or the only thing keeping me sane.

[@ChannelMath]

I can't see how gaslighting like this would possibly make you saner

[@corbeau-_-]

its mindboggling to me... He just seemed like another lackey...

[@davidlazarenko680]

I can't imagine watching Jon Stewart suck off two war criminals is keeping many people sane...

[@Rejex101]

This was just US Imperialist talking points with little pushback. The US protecting US interests means by any means possible. Complete nonsense.

[@smitmahajani7663]

To all those people who are disappointed about why Jon didn't press them more about their roles in foreign wars, regime changes etc., they need to understand that not all interviews are of the same type. I'm not saying all interviews should be like this one above, but a few of such ones, if done as well as Jon has here, do actually serve a key purpose. This interview, right from the get-go, is of the nature wherein the interviewer sets a direction to the conversation by asking a question, and then gives a free reign to the interviewees to answer what they want. We've all seen Jon question their policies in the past, and he obviously isn't someone who's going to back away from questioning politicians. He's done it in the past, he still does it, and he'll keep doing it. These kinds of interviews are also important in their own way, because they give a lot of space/time to the intervieews to speak their mind. Politicians of their stature are used to being interrupted/confronted, "prepping" for interviews and giving readymade answers, it's all second-nature to them. So, them not being in that kind of an environment makes them relatively more honest and "casual", and gives the people/viewers/citizens a deeper insight into their thought processes. It disarms the politicians. The politicians basically "reveal"/"expose" themselves, as we saw in the case of both of these women. That's why such interviews are important. They shed a light into what makes politicians take stupid or dangerous decisions, so that people (and by extension, the electorate) are more aware of these things in order to look out for such signs in the politicians of today or tomorrow/of the future.

[@albertgriffith5801]

"Of course we had to continue strategic relationships with authoritarian regimes" You don't impose democracy, but you do impose market capitalism, which is absolutely authoritarian

[@tomaszwida]

yeah that how they change a conversation, of what really is the problem in this world. but that liberals for you lot of people think of them as an ally, but they are obstacle best example i can think of is california and affordable housing/mental illness treatments if u want to look up the anecdote how liberals actually act...

[@hello7032]

Bingo

[@angeliquerider-mitchell2538]

Great job, Jon. Really interesting and informative conversation. I think your style of interviewing coupled with your clear knowledge of the topics makes for a more comfortable setting for your guests, hence you get more out of them. Plus your ability to dive directly into deep end with them ensures the time you do have is filled end to end with quality content. Well done.

[@Bisquick]

I don't blame anyone for being circumstantially unaware of what I'm going to attempt to illuminate, but these false dichotomy of "liberal" v. "conservative" are almost entirely indistinct but for their specific (but arbitrary) cultural shibboleths, consistent only in their inconsistency and unifying "bipartisan" overlapping consensus that emphasizes above all else a totalizing acquiescence to the _actual_ root of _all_ of these social antagonisms which has uncoincidentally become a third-rail to even mention in any context other than utter reverence...CAPITALISM. What Jon intuits but can't quite drill down on is that capital-L Liberalism (undergirded by a _material_ organization vis a vis ownership/control which implicitly dictates one's class, ie working class v. capitalist class, employer v. employee) _necessarily_ leads to the outcomes we then excuse or justify with rhetorical nonsense. There's a reason the adage _"scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds"_ exists, and it is illuminated quite clearly when looking at history through a grounded materialist lens ("historical materialism"). If we take something like the March on Rome for instance and how it brought Mussolini to power through that "totalitarian compromise" based on implicitly appealing to liberal property owners/capital by demonstrating the ability and will to direct a thug paramilitary (blackshirts) to beat the shit out of labor unions and their leaders, or merely look who _materially supported_ the nazi party in Germany, it becomes obvious that _class_ is the (uncoincidentally) concealed dividing line of society. Distinct from any other type of inherently divisive/fracturing (and thus extremely politically useful) identity politics, _class_ is dictated by one's material relationship to property and most importantly one class _necessarily_ benefits at the others' zero-sum expense. It's not a coincidence we're repeating this bullshit, and the superficial mythology of the "cold" war (and really of the entirety of US history) conceals the brutal reality of now-globalized class war. For anyone circumstantially unfamiliar (and at the risk of writing a book here lol), probably the most revealing history is the entirety of covert (but of public record) US involvement in "regime change", as it allows one to triangulate the basic macro of what I'm getting at, cementing a distinct pattern of ulterior motivations and interests served that cannot be dismissed as "mistakes" or "incoherent" (as -demonic arcon- Hillary Clinton disguised it). Take Iran in '53 with Operation AJAX (overthrowing democratically elected Mosaddegh to halt oil nationalization - same situation in Venezuela, that is what Chavez started) installing the Shah for the next 20+ years until a grassroots revolution took hold in '79, Guatemala in '54 with Operation PBSUCCESS (overthrowing democratically elected Arbenz for _mild_ land reform - also see: banana wars, monroe doctrine prior, and the overarching US domination of its so-called "back yard" in Operation Condor), Sukarno in Indonesia, Lumumba in the Congo, the _first_ 9/11 in '73 in Chile overthrowing democratically elected Allende for Pinochet's military dictatorship, this is merely the tip of the imperialist iceberg, but importantly these are not discrete events to be morally judged independently of any other context (as is constantly appealed to in the notion of "whataboutism"), they form a historical _continuity_ that highlights the trajectory of the US empire and its ascendance to global hegemony. As most can intuit to some degree, this relies on the 800+ military bases Jon alludes to (unfortunately assuming their function to be innocuous or "good" even) "full spectrum domination" over global oil markets, launching itself to supremacy post-WWII via imposing the Bretton-Woods international financial system with the US dollar as the "global reserve currency" using the leverage of being the only industrialized nation-state _not_ bombed to shit and essentially taking the imperial baton from the British and their pound sterling, and creating the international institutions of the IMF/World Bank which masquerade as somehow neutral entities of directing capital flows, but very brazenly/brutally work at the behest of transnational corporate/finance capital to impose states of debt-peonage and resource/labor control (see: "washington consensus", IMF/World Bank "structural adjustment" policy which stipulates dollar loans in exchange for complete subordination to US corporate/finance capital and its "shock therapy" austerity programs which serve to strip-mine resources and control labor/regional markets, etc.). Ok so, that broader macro context/outline leads us to where we are now: the US has positioned itself as the "consumer of last resort" at the end of the global supply chain to absorb inevitable overproduction of capitalism through cheap consumption or of course through our favorite activity of war/arms sales (military Keynesianism, the only button we can push at this point clearly). So NATO, for a perhaps relevant consideration of historical context/continuity, is an arms distribution network for the military industrial complex and essentially the public face of a European sphere of US domination, covertly enforced by a "strategy of tension" template seen in things like Operation Gladio in Italy (see: "years of lead", Aldo Moro assassination, Bologna bombings, etc.) with parallel operations in every NATO country (and even the ostensibly "neutral" countries like Belgium, Sweden and Finland - Austria in fact having done an extensive internal investigation after discovering this if I recall) where the CIA directed fascist paramilitary insurgencies to stoke public fear toward particular goals favorable to US corporate/finance capital and continued US hegemony. Its internally recognized geopolitical functionality as succinctly put by its first sec.gen was to, _"keep the Americans in, the Germans down, and the Russians out"_ and, what a "coincidence", its geopolitical function continues to enforce this state of affairs (Nord Stream being a particularly revealing and unsurprisingly largely avoided aspect of the geopolitics here, Germany essentially resigning itself to purchase 4x more expensive LNG from, what a surprise, the US..."freedom fuel" I guess lol...). Really the _only_ political question is: _cui bono?_ ( *_who benefits?_* ) The leviathan of the state (Hobbes), idealistically a neutral arbiter/mediator between the social classes emergent from the organization of material reality known as capitalism (ie worker/employee v. capitalist/employer), is merely used as a political cudgel by the capitalist class to further dominate the working class, leading precisely to the situation we find ourselves in with both parties being entirely captured by corporate/finance capital, basically just different aesthetic brands which can be traced back to the elite cultural aggrievements expressed in the federalist/antifederalist factions of Hamilton/Jefferson which lead to the civil war and remain unresolved, all the while this soulless mechanical process hollowing out all social trust/meaning to be sold for profit and at quite literally all other costs. As that craaaaaazy Marx guy put it, _"the executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie."_ The _actual_ choice for humanity, should we choose to you know _actually_ reconcile with reality, is just as Rosa Luxemburg framed it prior to (with the split in the international socialists over war credits) and during the uprisings in 1918 Germany that lead to Weimar which merely kicked out the Kaiser to recapitulate capital's dominion under the form of "liberal democracy", before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's ostensibly _social democratic_ SPD, almost immediately resonating the truth of her Spartacus movement's succinct and (tragically) accurate political dichotomy to this day: *_socialism or_* [continued] *_barbarism._* Hopefully _any_ of that wall of text made sense lol...

[@Bisquick]

If my prior screed of consciousness there was too long or didn't make sense, reminded of the great Michael Parenti, an excerpt from his piece Mystery: How Wealth Creates Poverty, which highlights this very same dynamic under the auspices of global US empire and its "full spectrum domination" by probing for descriptive explanations grounded _materially_ and throwing out unfalsifiable normative smokescreens: _"In their perpetual confusion, some liberal critics conclude that foreign aid and IMF and World Bank structural adjustments “do not work”; the end result is less self-sufficiency and more poverty for the recipient nations, they point out. Why then do the rich member states continue to fund the IMF and World Bank? Are their leaders just less intelligent than the critics who keep pointing out to them that their policies are having the opposite effect?_ _No, it is the critics who are stupid not the western leaders and investors who own so much of the world and enjoy such immense wealth and success. They pursue their aid and foreign loan programs because such programs do work. The question is, work for whom? Cui bono?_ _The purpose behind their investments, loans, and aid programs is not to uplift the masses in other countries. That is certainly not the business they are in. The purpose is to serve the interests of global capital accumulation, to take over the lands and local economies of Third World peoples, monopolize their markets, depress their wages, indenture their labor with enormous debts, privatize their public service sector, and prevent these nations from emerging as trade competitors by not allowing them a normal development._ _In these respects, investments, foreign loans, and structural adjustments work very well indeed._ _The real mystery is: why do some people find such an analysis to be so improbable, a “conspiratorial” imagining? Why are they skeptical that U.S. rulers knowingly and deliberately pursue such ruthless policies (suppress wages, rollback environmental protections, eliminate the public sector, cut human services) in the Third World? These rulers are pursuing much the same policies right here in our own country!_ _Isn’t it time that liberal critics stop thinking that the people who own so much of the world---and want to own it all---are “incompetent” or “misguided” or “failing to see the unintended consequences of their policies”? You are not being very smart when you think your enemies are not as smart as you. They know where their interests lie, and so should we."_

[@3chordgrifter7]

Nothing about this propaganda was informative

[@dirtcom7]

Clear knowledge of the topics would not have allowed rinmce and Clinton to whitewash US war crimes

[@Anemoia100]

@@Bisquick 💯 🙌🏾

[@who2u333]

Good to see the political class speaking more than a soundbite.

[@francoisbouvier7861]

Nuanced conversation, yes. Still trying to justify America 's stances with soundbites.

[@AMA-Online]

@@francoisbouvier7861 you're right.

[@ribbitrocks]

lovely exchange of thoughtful conversations with intelligent people always find it refreshing regardless of POV

[@cooper_ls77]

i really love how instead of answering questions they change the whole conversation

[@imbalancedstatus8824]

Because they know the answer will reveal their hypocrisy

[@woopit2011]

Allllways

[@Pepe-hj4zt]

Sure sometimes. But I feel as if most questions were answered

[@kevatut23]

Holy shit Jon. As much as I am a liberal progressive, listening to these two is its own brand of Cool-Aid. We have created the global relationship more than any other entity. Yet, regardless of who signs the checks, we continue to prioritize the military contractors over peace and prosperity. "The fault dear Brutus, is not in our stars. It is in ourselves".

[@danielvalleduarte]

Don't let these jackals hijack your peaceful values

[@bajamarketplace]

Yes..rhe US spendS 50% of its GDP ON MILITARY.Inzustrial complex. and only 1.5% on Humanitarian issues...tume to change thus,equation I would say.. DUH!

[@NewMessage]

Oh, this one should make for an interesting comment section. * sprays pure vinegar into his own eyes * Annnnd I'm ready to dive in now.

[@madigan_sax]

😆😆😆😆

[@Numismatists_Matter]

🤣🤣🤣💚💙💜😘 2nd #Colbert

[@donalmurphy5253]

After the coalition took Iraq, the USA privatised all of Iraqs industries and opened it to foreign investments. Any profits made by foreign investments could be kept by the companies. The only rule that was kept of the former regime was the law against the practice of trade unions. These people belong in the Hague.

[@LegionOfWeirdos]

I'd be interested to see the pages of the contract riders where these women enumerated the "off limits" topics.

[@billmagorian490]

Israel

[@jeanne553]

Can't believe she's still pretending there were weapons of mass destruction!

[@icarus-wings]

I lost all respect for this conversation when she snuck that in and it went unchallenged.

[@teejatron9849]

What she said was "we THOUGHT there were WMDs." Whether they actually thought that is debatable, but she did not say that there WERE WMDs.

[@hermit146]

@@teejatron9849 If they actually had them, they wouldn't have been attacked. 'MAD blah blah' thats what the conversation would have been.

[@chiman75]

from what i understood the person on the recieving end pretended to have wmd for real because he was afraid iran would sense weakness. and he had used it against soldiers n civilians before as well.

[@christopherburrell9630]

Hillary's ridiculous justifications for Libya were only overshadowed by Condi's refusal to even acknowledge how badly they messed up with WMD's Intel...both of the pathetic defenses of their interventionism disgusted me.

[@chirelius76]

I get this wouldn’t have been Jon’s focus here to play hardball with both of their hawkish policies, but the moment Condoleezza talked about focusing on democracy post Cold War, I would have loved to hear her comment on Bush Admin’s role in democratically elected Aristide’s overthrow in Haiti in 2004. We owe so much to the Haitian people. Research it. Don’t forget it.

[@rowdy3837]

Shame on Jon for allowing these two monsters to wantonly lie unchallenged. Particularly his refusal to challenge Rice’s assertions that we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for “security” reasons. I grew up watching Jon refute these lies in real time during those wars. To see him cash in his legacy in order to get these “high-profile” interviews is tragic. The Jon I knew and loved wouldn’t have allowed such bullshit to go unchallenged for one minute…

[@ltaaa2]

The problem with Jon Stewart. This is a guy who gives medals out to nazis. He's a big contradiction.

[@Walrus286]

Spot on

[@northstar9able]

I don't think he cashed in... he laid out the carpet so that their colors are visible to all...

[@thisiscarib]

are you suggesting that we don’t speak to who we disagree with and we don’t debate and or learn about things we are opposed to? If that’s the case who do we investigate and learn in order to not repeat those same mistakes?

[@Walrus286]

@@thisiscarib they’re maybe suggesting that you’d ask tougher questions to the blood soaked monsters that share a huge amount of the responsibility for the deaths of 100s of thousands of people in the Middle East.

[@xc43t]

Jon's stomach must be super solid to be able to talk to these two ladies. There is a clearly visible trail of dead bodies behind each of them. I guess it is nice to know what "arguably" war criminals think about things but I'd say they need to be publicly shamed or just forgotten.

[@1massboy]

Ladies? Monsters is more like it.

[@ELI-73]

publicly trialed is what I'd suggest. Maybe the US regime at some point will recognize the international court of justice and let their criminals be held accountable. Until then, sociopaths will be sociopathing their way to the top I'm afraid