As multiple people have already noted, both in this and your previous horse video you are ignoring damage that can be done by the horse itself when ramming at full gallop (sprint). That is where a horse's Strength comes into play. At full gallop a horse with some points in strength can one-hit kill low level mobs and will knockdown or stagger higher ones while doing a lot of damage. If you combine that charge damage with a well-timed spear thrust released to coincide with the horse's impact, it can do tremendous damage in one strike. Lances can also be lowered and can hit hard, but have a chance of shattering on impact and are useless when not charging, so I find spears to be the better mounted weapon overall.
@wak48634 жыл бұрын
"We're going to wak this thrall" Thanks for the shoutout!!! 💚
@albiss1164 Жыл бұрын
At some point in time, outdated videos should be removed, so there would be less inaccuracy and confusion when learning new Conan's versions. Love your work ! :)
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
40 Agility horse will reduce incoming damage by ~75%, while a 40 Vitality horse will increase it's HP by ~100%. Vitality's 100% bonus is larger, but Agility's 75% bonus affects the performance of HP as well as regeneration. Nowadays I prefer Agility; it reduces falling damage, endurance damage when meleeing, and the amount of food needed to fully heal. Getting 40 in a stat is easy, but 50 is hard; remember that pets get two stat points per level guaranteed if their FOOD-MODIFIED growth percent is 100 or higher! I do wonder if horse STR applies to lance damage, since lances calculate damage differently from other weapons.
@thehardnow4 жыл бұрын
But how do you hit 100% when food only gives +14% max?
@tobi___04504 жыл бұрын
Of course vitality is the best but strength is coming shortly after. The damage when you run over players does matter a lot. If you time it correctly, you can run somebody over and then hit them with your mordlun while they are still falling down and if your horses strength is high enough, you can kill heavy armor with this combo.
@Dumbeltication3 жыл бұрын
Man thank you so much for that explanation. Ive tried the wiki and google but nothing was as good as your guide. Its very thorough so that even the most dense people can understand it it. Much love
@XadeGrimm3 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between types of fouls? Like sturdy swift etc.
@tru2mysinz9724 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, wish u were a little more chilled df out. Devs said strength and accuracy would affect the rider in one of their first streams were they were showing off new treb range, horses, and the new roll for all armors. That's where the misinformation came from, no doubt. Some of us don't have the time to test everything (let alone watch ur entire video) and we trusted the dev stream on it I wish u would've tested how the horse's accuracy stats affected ur damage output like u did wit ur melee weapon. Thank you tho
@chrisburrows9758 Жыл бұрын
I was looking and looking everywhere to check on the endurance/stamina pool max, so thank you for letting me know it is always 600 no matter what.
@azraelbloodgamer42404 жыл бұрын
I am glad you did this video Firespark. I had so many questions about how the horse's stats affect the rider. It also gives me ideas on how to deal with mounted combat.
@feliciafasterthanlight57963 жыл бұрын
True, strength doesn’t effect your damage the way you are attacking Firespark. However, If you both heavy attack with spear and hit the target with the horse, overall dmg of a strafing pass can be noticeably increased with a high strength horse. Personally I would not feed a horse for strength over accuracy, but I’m not unhappy when a perk boosts strength. I boost accuracy for the dmg boost rather than the spread. I don’t worry about vitality because I rarely take dmg on horseback. While I do shoot distant targets from a stationary horse, I also spend a lot of time shooting backward at pursuing bosses (it’s more fun). With practice you can take out a 3 skull boss while riding in a circle just shooting backwards. PVE there is hardly anything in the game that can hit a horse or rider if you are always turning. You can make large circles or small around an enemy (or ten at a time), but I would always fight in circles (jousting is easier but slow).
@Edramon532 жыл бұрын
Has this been changed by the Age of Sorcery thrall nerfs?
@misticmaze2 жыл бұрын
I want the answer to this too.
@craigslitzer48574 жыл бұрын
Dude this is right on time. I was just wondering about all this.
@theevilben6664 жыл бұрын
My horse has 24 strength 38 vit, lv 20, and I find the horses trample with a legendary polearm like a trident, perfectly timed jab 1 bangs most players at lv 60 with godbreaker on, due to the enhanced horse damage and trample damage
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a nice horse! I'm surprised to hear that level 60 players on yer server can be killed in only 3 attacks!
@curbyproulx59484 жыл бұрын
Does horse strength affect the trample damage a horse does when running something over?
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@fo0liner19853 жыл бұрын
what about the damage the horse deals by ramming full sprint into something ? is that affected by strength ?
@TyPhenirW0LF4 жыл бұрын
You used a spear to prove strength is meaningless. Maybe you should have used a Lance, which is the weapon specifically used for horseback melee. Also... What about running people over? If it doesn't matter, you have to be comprehensive.
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
Running people over does regular pet damage, which is normally double my own damage. Ramming also adds a knock-down effect against humanoids!
@rayrivera18303 жыл бұрын
Can you feed it vines while it grows in the stable too, for +vit?
@JimLucas4 жыл бұрын
Nice response 🤘🏻. Great job on the vids brother.
@thirdassassin11814 жыл бұрын
I know right.. He really is commited to making good Conan Exiles vids. I can drop off the earth for a year (in which I did 👍) and Firespark is still making vids. I love his devotion to covering this game. It keeps my motivation going forward in the game too. I am in the middle of a "Pictish Campaign" atm! 😁
@rayrivera18303 жыл бұрын
So vines will give your horse higher probability to level up in Vitality? Then use Assura's glory for max health regen after lvl 20?
@JohnMillertime4 жыл бұрын
Did you test the Lance.. woops.. is that where the STR comes into play?
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
no lance is based on speed according to what the devs stated in a live stream
@JohnMillertime4 жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 I think that can be right as well. Based upon speed as it turns on the horses STR multiplier. But run the tests.. who knows!
@WikkydGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnMillertime From tests I have run, strength doesnt affect lance damage, only the velocity of the horse.
@lancesatan21754 жыл бұрын
Health is key af. I have one thrall that was a dalinsia with God roll in vit, was 18k pre nerf, and is now 16k post nerf. She also has 45 str rn, but added with a strength build armor it's at 58. As far as my horse, I'm a mountain dweller, so scout saddle all the way. Plus horse drifting is fricken great. My best one has close to 7k health 3 str and a bunch in the other bs.
@matthewffunaro3 жыл бұрын
great in depth analysis as always.
@thorwulfx14 жыл бұрын
Because horses don't fight, everything except health and agility has been rendered meaningless now. Unless you're fighting world bosses or whole encampments at once, horses rarely need more than, say 4k or 5k health. I've found that much of the damage hits my character directly. My view on horses is that they're great for open areas and fighting beasts, but not so great for fighting maneuverable, small opponents, like humans. I do wish they could defend themselves when set to guard, though. It makes me hesitant to ride somewhere, if I don't think there will be a safe place to park them.
@joedelamater36904 жыл бұрын
what about contact damage when the horse runs into enemies? does strength increase that damage?
@jamesbarnicks48633 жыл бұрын
It does
@mental88864 жыл бұрын
Next reset on my server in coming to yours! Love the videos! You guys have a discord?
@chrisyoungblood46494 жыл бұрын
Fantastic guide! Thanks a ton.
@crusherolies81954 жыл бұрын
when you get a thrall with 100% survival its kinda nice to use them when taking on things like the reaper queen.
@fuzzykitty42713 жыл бұрын
Super late on this, but I'm new. I'd like to know of any stat helps with riding control.
@fuggaak34643 жыл бұрын
Nope, just the saddle type. Maneuver saddle gives best control, but I prefer the speed saddle for riding around the map and the heavy saddles for combat.
@galacticaturkey884 жыл бұрын
Health is awesome, i agree, but strength affects charge in PVP , it's insanely strong :)
@craigslitzer48574 жыл бұрын
10:45 Firespark I think they nerfed that. I could be wrong, but I think all followers now get 5HP healing as long as they have food. And the type of food doesn't matter anymore.
@sharktits20434 жыл бұрын
I think that is only true for Human Thralls as far as I know, all foods heal for 5hp/sec but it should still be the old table for horses/pets, specific foods heal for more.
@craigslitzer48574 жыл бұрын
Usually, when I'm wrong it's hard to admit, but this time it's easy. Haha
@thaynthegamer4 жыл бұрын
@@craigslitzer4857 That's not exactly admitting it 😜
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
The rare food used to give higher regen, with the more common foods giving a broad spectrum. But nowadays all food gives 5.
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
Ok so it looks like they made some changes but only to servers and not single player which one doesn't make any freaking sense its the same game and two is just stupid. Yes you are right everything only heals for 5 on my dedicated however in single player all food works just like it use to on everything.
@spectralhaunt86064 жыл бұрын
strength is needed for collision damage from horse
@jamesbarnicks48633 жыл бұрын
Asures glory imo, is the best food to level up a horse with. I've tried all the foods with different ones and also the other animals. It seems they really benefit from the foods that give chance to more then one stat at a time. Current horse is a tank both hit and hp with high surival for resistance. 400dmg on hit and 6800 hp
@RexorKisashi4 жыл бұрын
"Aaand the comments blew up" "Makes me wanna bang my head against the wall" Cracked a good laugh there bud.
@Edramon534 жыл бұрын
"Health is king", makes me feel good about my Beastmaster Teimos. He has around 15.5k health. His first perk with was +3 survival, but then he got +15 Vit at level 15 and -5 Acc/+8 Vit at level 20. His strength is low, but I might try him with a bow as even the -5 Acc leaves him with 63 Acc.
@Bubbles997182 жыл бұрын
How'd that go?
@easterworshipper55794 жыл бұрын
so the bottom line seems to be 'feed the horse vines.' correct?
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
yup it helps
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
Also remember that horses with 86% or higher get up to 100% with vines, guaranteeing 2 Vitality points per level!
@bluefalcon82844 жыл бұрын
Dude the horse strg is for when he runs over the thrall
@oddsocks50942 жыл бұрын
I have 1 thrall with highish survival.... I only use it battling in areas with lots of enemies that inflict poison/bleed. He rarely needs to be used.
@oddsocks50942 жыл бұрын
Also great video fire thanks for the info
@paytonfrizzell20554 жыл бұрын
Ya If you have a horse with mad strength most good players can run over and hit at the same time and can one tap a player also you should test greater sabertooth they can be really good against players
@leadestroyed4 жыл бұрын
Fire spark this might be such a complete topic shift but I was wondering what armor combos you think are the best looking? (This can include DLC armors) I am scheduling a Conan event and I needed some outfit ideas for some of my clan members do you think you could help me out? If not it’s fine 😊
@olif7yaotl4 жыл бұрын
Run over someone, no hit with your weapon, just pass over and see the difference in damage with more strength, that's the combo hit with the horse and with weapon. A think you will do this time. XD
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
yea its not that much extra dmg. Ive tested it.
@TobbeDraws4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't agility also improve the manoeuvrability and stamina pool?
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
nope
@Burneri3 жыл бұрын
all these health is king thing are pretty much about regen... and regen is more effective when combined with good armor as the damage/healing ratio gets better so no health is not the king... armor and health regen is the king and queen... so agility is expecially good for horses as they cant wear armor like thralls can... expecially expecially good as they seem to get much bigger amounth of armor from agility
@JohnJohn-bh9pe3 жыл бұрын
Strength on a horse afflict ur knock down heath on the enemy, test strength on knock down
@myriadcorp4 жыл бұрын
What's your preferred saddle?
@jamesbarnicks48632 жыл бұрын
Please test horse dmg % mod on Lance. My testing says it adds to the lance
@MasterDk783 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy, this vid helped to clarify a lot Tho, how do you send you horse to attack? lol
@Firespark813 жыл бұрын
They don't do that any more. They removed them attacking a while back. Now they just run away. The attack and damage they do is when you are riding them and hit someone.
@TobbeDraws4 жыл бұрын
You also missed to mention the random growth chance when you get a horse...they are not all the same...but I know what you meant You were basing that on the other stats and the color of the horse.
@wilton130319724 жыл бұрын
1 question, how can you get into the game and not me, I have been unable to get to the servers for 3 weeks and my single player will not start either ?
@liviuursegr4 жыл бұрын
the game had some issues at start up but if I force close it and restarted it, it worked fine for me. if that still doesn't work, try a file check and fix in steam under proprieties
@wilton130319724 жыл бұрын
@@liviuursegr Thx
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
If yer using Windows7, I can only say GOOD LUCK. While Conan Exiles is compatible with Windows7, Funcom Live Services is not.
@tobi___04504 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't a multiplier of 0.6 be 40% reduction not 60%
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
you would think but it looks like its backwards so 1.0 would be 100%. Because it starts at 0 then the saddle ads 0.whatever.
@paytonfrizzell20554 жыл бұрын
Demonic spiders get the most hp of a obtainable thrall and will die to most tralls
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
Corrupted Spiders were one of the few pets that avoided the agility/vitality pet-nerf! But they are still only half as good as thralls, even without the pet-nerf. Last time I checked, these pets were not nerfed: bug queen, greater hyena, frost giant, croc, corrupted spider, greater bear, boar/Greater Boar, Turan rhino, horses, legionnaire skeleton, queen scorpion.
@meramusa4 жыл бұрын
It's so shite that accuracy is always stuck at 40% growth, which is "working as intended" as confirmed on the forums. :/
@sandrasmiles20244 жыл бұрын
The highest ive gotten hp wise on a horse is 9391 HP, Impactful Strikes, Fit & Unflinching but cant mimic it since😬
@anonymouswv1013 жыл бұрын
So what you mean to say is "Due to lag at all the worst times take vitality to cushion all the hits you wont see coming at you"
@cosmicdjinn17433 жыл бұрын
I thought the str horses affected how much damage you did during a charge attack.
@jamesbarnicks48633 жыл бұрын
It does from my own testing
@alexh91454 жыл бұрын
I like the vids and all but tbh with you, I really didn’t find this video too helpful
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
I will agree many longtime players already know most of the info in this video. But there are still people out there spreading nonsense about horse stats so I felt it was needed.
@vagnartheviking25344 жыл бұрын
how do the "failsafe" work? i mean fore me 100% is 100%...
@AshenExiled4 жыл бұрын
He literally murdered 4 horses and breezed right by it
@TobbeDraws4 жыл бұрын
BTW you haven't tested if more acc does more dmg than none. Which it should...since it is listed as acc dmg bonus in the stats of the horse...I mean it is funcom...they make fun of us and might add it to a unit without range attacks for no reason 😂 Still you missed to show/test it
@ricojes4 жыл бұрын
These thumbnails seem to be on drugs recently. I'm guessing it's to do with playing with the YT algorithm?
@Firespark814 жыл бұрын
They are getting higher click-through rates. Also its pop art-ish
@Bandinoriel4 жыл бұрын
I'll click them regardless, but they do have an eye-catching effect.
@Sysiu4 жыл бұрын
the usage of horse stats, must be test in real PVP. I can asure you that, all 5 stats worked
@gungaming73324 жыл бұрын
Health is king!
@TobbeDraws4 жыл бұрын
And it makes sense that way. Horses doesn't just boost your acc, as it does with strength, since you can lvl acc to benefit from it. Bam ("to quote fs81")
@tobi___04504 жыл бұрын
Stop being so cruel! 😂1:30
@T_Elmo4 жыл бұрын
*kidnaps @firespark81 for uploading at an ungodly hour.*
@limz7ds3934 жыл бұрын
This is a "sit down" video to all those who commented like mad about stats lmao
@danboud81353 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is... vines.
@WelcometotheShow5014 жыл бұрын
Oh I love the condescending tone to the idiots lol. Teach em good fire
@crowvvv42834 жыл бұрын
lol firespark doesnt know how they work, the strength bonus is applied when at full speed
@MadPirateShin4 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if horse STR applies to lance damage, since lances calculate damage differently.
@WikkydGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@MadPirateShin Tested this recently and horse strength has no bearing on lance damage. Lance damage is tied to the speed of the horse. But check back next week because you never know, Funcom constantly changes so much with game lol.
@MrTheequark4 жыл бұрын
Not First,Lazy...
@N4RCissus3 жыл бұрын
LOL i like your videos but this is just sooooo wrong.
@mugiwara-564 жыл бұрын
187th view
@djsmithification4 жыл бұрын
I think it's a shame that a horse can't make use of most of the attributes that can accrue leveling up. Why have leveling at all then?
@your_boy69bbc124 жыл бұрын
Who else's clan makes fun of firespark lol
@peternoone79022 жыл бұрын
Horses is useless in Conan. They need to fix the NPC's in this game!!
@kyanfleming7175 Жыл бұрын
Lol tell that to the lance meta 😂
@crusherolies81954 жыл бұрын
your mic is really loud or something this time. terrible
@MSWindman4 жыл бұрын
I hear nothing that you are experiencing. Mic sounds normal and is not loud
@crusherolies81954 жыл бұрын
@@MSWindman good for you, would you like a cookie?
@MSWindman4 жыл бұрын
@@crusherolies8195 Ahh, that would be awesome. Then you and I could be BFF's with benefits for life! Yay!!
@crusherolies81954 жыл бұрын
@@MSWindman i dont swing that way, you only get a cookie
@MSWindman4 жыл бұрын
@@crusherolies8195 Ah, u be the Cookie Monster... Yum, yum
@crusherolies81954 жыл бұрын
all the DLC items are only cosmetic. they dont offer better stats ever.