What I Do With My Woodmizer Sawmill Waste

[@paulchristensen6722]

Absolute solitude working alone on the mountains. I started thinning our 70 acre property yesterday. Ordered a Farmi winch as well. Thanks for the content and manly entertainment 🙏

[@marekwieckowski7038]

Proper recycling, same for me nothing goes to waste.

[@timmyfields6159]

Here in NC, anywhere there’s a pile of waste wood from a logging project there’s always beautiful black berrys, some raspberries , and lots of strawberries growing in it when it’s left alone

[@WilsonForestLands]

The way I have seen it growing in it here, I can definitely believe that.

[@grahamgeiger3206]

This is quite the garden

[@whistlelips]

I make 1x4's or even a 1x3 out of what most people call a slab, so even my mother in law wouldn't want my slabs. Quiet there, can't beat that. Nice wheelbarrow, they don't make them like that anymore. Nice video Sir!

[@WilsonForestLands]

There are some that I could squeeze some of those sizes out of. I probably would if I didn’t have such an abundance of wood to mill. The wheelbarrow was my grandfather’s. Thanks for the comment.

[@peterellis4262]

I planted a good number of new trees and shrubs this spring, and the various forms of sawdust and woodchips that get produced from the mill and other operations here are going largely to mulch those new plantings. On the nitrogen front - as long as you don't till it onto the soil, just use it as a top mulch, it doesn't tie up nitrogen in the soil.

[@joeyrector934]

That is a good idea. Plus the sawdust and bark will help with keeping the morster in the ground

[@WilsonForestLands]

It does quite well.

[@joeyrector934]

I bet. I'm going to try it around my wife roses

[@bard44]

If I may suggest, it may be a good idea to run bark and slabs through a wood chipper. Makes a good mulch. Sell as animal bedding or whatever, or just give it away. Makes for a cleaner work area.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I’ve been giving most of my slabs away to my neighbors for firewood. One concern with chipping is a lot of these logs get dragged through the dirt. It might be hard on chippers. But it would be a good use there are a lot of people wanting to do wood chip gardening.

[@bard44]

Dirt doesn't affect chipper blades like it does chainsaw blades.@@WilsonForestLands

[@spencerh2860]

@@bard44it really does

[@birddogfarms6981]

Thanks for the tip about bark on firewood creating most of the ash. Good to know.

[@MsdMakingSawDust]

Good video , that’s the hardest thing about saw milling getting rid of the waist. But it looks like you figured out a couple ways to get rid of some of it. I give away all of are cut offs to whoever wants to come pick them up for free just to get rid of them. Now saw dust is another story. Thanks for sharing your ideals. Take care

[@WilsonForestLands]

It’s one of the hardest things about working with forest land in general. What to do with all the wood that comes from just about everything I do. As always, thanks for watching and commenting.

[@karenvonborstel2707]

I love what you are doing in your garden. I'll bet those raspberries thrive in that combination of sawdust and bark. Blueberries would too. I am surprised you aren't having nitrogen problems with the rest of the garden. I would rather deal with nitrogen problems than weeds. Ha. I have lots of composted manure I could put below that sawdust and solve that problem.

[@WilsonForestLands]

The blueberries I recently planted are doing well too. I think with most gardens people have to add nitrogen for good results. As long as it’s just on top of the soil and not mixed in the soil, I don’t think the sawdust garden needs much more nitrogen than other gardens. Some of your manure would probably go along way. Thanks for the comment.

[@gladebrosi6587]

I just want to add that, as an agronomist, you are correct. Nitrogen loss typically doesn’t occur if the sawdust or woodchips are placed on the surface.

[@karenvonborstel2707]

@@gladebrosi6587 and all: you have made a believer out of me. I am going to do it. Thank you for the information.

[@robertjanez7467]

I remember putting approx 1/2 inch thick of sawdust on my field once, 4 feet by 4 feet area in late spring. I checked on it 4 or 5 months later, and nothing grew through it. I have (had) infertile sandy Low PH soil that I'm slowly adding organic material to which might explain why even weeds struggle to grow sometimes. thanks for idea about mixing saw dust with bark. Another video said to mix sawdust with used coffee grinds from coffee shop if you need a lot of it. thanks for positing , as I just started milling with woodland mills 130 max @@gladebrosi6587

[@johac7637]

The nitrogen issue is only in the first couple of years, then as it gets added on top the carbon actually has its effects on the nitrates, ammonia in their retection of the N, the key is he's got great aounts of carbon in the soil now. For composting the C to N is best 20/25 to 1 to not deprive the plants of N, but when the carbon is present the plants thrive on 30/50 to 1 ratio. I've done lots of wood, manure, Alfalfa soil ammdndments, I layered it too thick as most say, but fed N in the drip, now when I do soil,tissue samples I don't need the added N, and I still add about 2-3 inches, and covercrop it, but i lightly til, so the N, P K carbon are in the soil, not going up into the atmosphere. And im in the Arizona 9B zone, two cycles of covercrop due to heat.

[@DaveForArt]

Yes all of those plants are lacking nitrogen. They are anemic. Adding something with humic acid, like 10% moist duff to your mix can help with that. Garden looks great, I also use varied mulches.

[@gregfraser3852]

Awesome video I’m going to do the same with my off cuts

[@WhatWeDoChannel]

Thanks for that! I have been wondering what you do with the sawmill residue. I would love to hear more about your garden, gardening being my primary interest! I have seen large operations that let saw dust slowly compost over time and sell the resulting compost.

[@stevet8121]

You need a big boys aluminum scoop shovel for sawdust.

[@stephenwells9698]

thank you much for information With high food prices, shortage of fertilizer you are right on. i also thought of making fuel logs with sawdust and vegetable oil for winter fuel. Thanks again.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I have thought of a lot of different byproducts that could be made too. Most of it after fooling around with it, it’s just easier to put it on the garden. Thanks for the comment.

[@integr8er66]

I looked into making fuel pellets, but it costs so much to kiln dry the sawdust that it really doesn't leave much profit.

[@johnwax9759]

I have local nurseries provide me with wood chips from their chipping operations to fill in my swamp. Currently about an acre, and 2 feet deep. Wondering what to plant in it to put the area to a good use. There's a foot of topsoil, then clay under the chips. The swamp was impenetrable and useless (except as a habitat) and thick with cattails and weeds 6 feet tall. Looking for ideas (besides expensive topsoil) to make this area productive.

[@HardRockVermont]

Woodchips make great mulch, and if you generate them with your Mill, no need for the trip to the chain stores.

[@TheUrantia001]

could start a mushroom farm with all the bark..wood is the best non-conductor hence why its so good for keeping mositure in...how about all those access roads you mentioned about upgrading, can use some course bark instead of stones...?..like you havent thought of that already..haha...good for compost toilet to + lime...

[@southbridgeforestHOA]

there is a local guy who mills up cedar exclusively and gives away the slabs. I thought about making garden beds out of them too 7:10 is a great idea. also though about getting a big load and renting a chipper to make mulch that lasts 5 years.

[@WilsonForestLands]

Some say compost cedar before you put it on the garden. I don’t know if that’s true or not.

[@hkfan4596]

the west coast, especially OR, is just so much nicer than any other part of the U.S. Wished I wasn't stuck in the hellhole that is the east coast.

[@-eg2no]

Rip

[@TheOldManAndTheSaw]

Good video and good information.

[@WilsonForestLands]

Thanks Dave.

[@keyboardoperator]

wood only takes nitrogen out of the soil if it is buried. Putting it on top as mulch has no effect on nitrogen. If you till it under, add some nitrogen.

[@stevenallen8357]

We use sawdust to grow potatoes in our garden. With crop rotation, the later years as the sawdust breaks down makes great mulch and compost.

[@integr8er66]

It takes a lot of knowledge to get that right, pine for instance is very acidic, and Walnut will kill plants and even animals, then there is the nitrogen consumption issue for which you have the chemically amend the soil. There is a lot you need to know to use sawdust that way

[@aaronharvey6991]

Ive got a lucas mill and figured about 11-12% is converted to sawdust. I havent done math on how much lumber im actually making

[@SUF-py4ix]

I suppose you would need to know what leaves look like with a lack of nitrogen such as Leaves suffering from a lack of nitrogen typically show the following signs: Yellowing (Chlorosis): The most common sign of nitrogen deficiency is the yellowing of leaves, starting from the older, lower leaves. The yellowing often begins at the tips and edges, spreading towards the center. Stunted Growth: The overall growth of the plant may be reduced, leading to smaller leaves and a general lack of vigor. Pale Green Color: The entire plant may take on a pale green hue due to the lack of chlorophyll, which is nitrogen-dependent. Premature Leaf Drop: In severe cases, the older leaves may dry up and fall off prematurely. Thin and Weak Stems: The stems might become thin and weak because nitrogen is essential for overall plant structure and strength. These symptoms occur because nitrogen is a crucial component of chlorophyll, the compound plants use for photosynthesis. Without adequate nitrogen, the plant cannot produce enough chlorophyll, leading to these visible symptoms.

[@jj680l]

I think there is only a problem with nitrogen if the stuff is tilled/mixed into the soil. It works great as a mulch on the surface of the soil.

[@edames5317]

I really don't know anyone who works any more than you do

[@jimdandy9671]

Given the size of your trailing piles, you're gonna need a much bigger garden.

[@WilsonForestLands]

The garden does seem to be spreading. Some of it has gone to my neighbors garden too.

[@robinfranks375]

We have a sawmill and mostly pine. Do you use that sawdust in the garden? Love the garden videos.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I mill mostly Douglas fir and Pine and put them both in the garden. The only thing I separate is the cedar. I don’t know if it’s necessary but I use that for things like walkways to the garden. Thanks for the comment. I haven’t done very many garden videos because they don’t do so well on this channel.

[@robinfranks375]

@@WilsonForestLands probably because garden people don’t know you have them.

[@WilsonForestLands]

It’s true. It’s the problem with doing off topic videos from the main topic of the channel. KZbin doesn’t show them to the right people. I thought about making a separate garden channel if my to do list was shorter.

[@GMfan746]

Personally me, I would use the sawdust for compost.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I do have a couple big piles of it composting. Thanks for the comment.

[@billietyree2214]

Get yourself an aluminum grain shovel to save some time on shoveling sawdust.

[@lawrencelawrence3920]

I rotto tilled wood shavings into my garden and then mushrooms started to grow.

[@randyehrick8011]

Need any labor help?

[@robbobcat7286]

Cilantro going to seed is coriander. if you didn't already know

[@colinswainson9882]

I live in the mountains of Japan and to buy a mountain cost around $2,000 USD , I’m trying to convince the wife to letting me buy a mountain 😂

[@lpeterman]

Good morning (recent subscriber) compelled to comment. I too generate quite a bit of waste on my 220v 5hp Timbery M100 mill and like you have thought about ways to mitigate the piles of waste. So far, we're on the same page, but I'd like to throw a few ideas to you: "Bio-dens"; as in, structured piles of off-cuts, limbs and branches with needles/leaves still on. I construct them 'lincoln-log' style with floors between levels for birds and smaller critters, (skunks, raccoons, 'possums, etc.) A great way to give something back for removing the wildlife habitat trees. Corduroy roads -- great use of hefty off cuts -- I place them in the deeper ruts formed in muddy months and then others crosswise to traverse the low and boggy areas as needed. It'll all rot and go back into the soil for future growth. You mentioned a client who purchases some of the off cuts for gardening, I believe it's called "Hugelkultur" and has been used in Europe for centuries. We've begun to use this method, (reports forthcoming); again, a great way to use up the waste wood and at $50 per load, a bargain for the client, and a hearty "atta boy!" for you to provide the service. We don't burn much, (7kw pv solar system provides our power), but selling the pre-cut Doug-fir for those who do is a steady money maker -- are you a member of the OWC? Last comment, we're north of you in Linn County, (Willamette valley) we don't have Sugar pine up here, but with Climate change, we will soon(!); our conifers are pretty much Valley Ponderosa pine and Doug-fir, but I can certainly agree the smell of a freshly milled log is a heady aroma. Would like to know your take/tips on milling sappy pine logs. Enjoying your channel and low-key production approach; Keep 'em coming! Chat soon, L Peterman Bogwood

[@WilsonForestLands]

Thank you for that comment. When I did fuels treatment on this property, I retained a lot of the coarse woody debris instead of burning it. Some of it I did pile up into habitat piles. Not as elaborate as the ones you described. I have thought at some point I may do it with some slabs. The guy who uses the slabs for gardening actually constructs the beds out of the slabs instead of buying lumber. I have thought about Hugelculture but I figure I’m doing my own version of it, only I’m putting the wood on the soil instead of burying it. I am curious to know how yours works out. Do you mean the Oregon Watershed Council? I am not a member. On sappy pine logs, the pine I have worked with cut very easy. A lot of times when I get into the heartwood I have to use water on the blade to keep the resin from building up. I find the boards warp a lot if I don’t sticker them and weigh them down to dry them. They also need good airflow or they will mold. Great to hear from you from a bit north.

[@lpeterman]

@@WilsonForestLands OWC = Oregon Woodlands Co-op; an group which could assist you in marketing some of the slab/firewood. Are you a member of OSWA?

[@WilsonForestLands]

I am not a member of OSWA. I am quite familiar with them and know some of the early founding members in the area. I just looked up OWC. I remember looking at them a long time ago. I would be interested in hearing more about their bundled firewood. I don’t have much time to deal with firewood but always looking at markets for utilizing excess wood.

[@etchediniron4249]

Woodmizer is not making a good impression on me at the moment. Promised a 60 week delivery, then they said it’s 12 weeks behind, now they won’t even tell me how long it’ll be. All the while offering no incentives to keep waiting. I’m not looking for a different manufacturer

[@WilsonForestLands]

Woodmizer got slammed with orders when the price of lumber shot up and so many people started ordering sawmills. Last I heard they were over a year behind on many models. If it’s 12 weeks, that’s an improvement. I have heard other manufacturers are having similar problems. A sudden increase in demand and difficulty finding employees.

[@etchediniron4249]

@@WilsonForestLands if you can’t deliver, don’t make promises

[@whistlelips]

@@etchediniron4249 I ordered an LT40 and they said 77 weeks. A friend of mine got his woodmizer 3 months later than expected because of the diesel option.

[@robinfranks375]

Just got ours in 6 weeks

[@etchediniron4249]

@@robinfranks375 your lucky. I had to be a squeaky wheel to get mine