What I wish someone told me about the Wandrd Prvke 31L V3...

[@greengraycolor]

Great product overview. I wish all big KZbinrs were this honest and insightful

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for your comment!

[@mts_wld]

Just got the bag myself! - The magnet on the top handle works much better if you connect the sides with the 'Wander more, Worry less' on it!

[@fpdima]

Great review. I'm convinced to continue my search for a bag. Thanks for the practical insights.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you. If I may, I ended up using this bag which I reviewed here kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4DKin2YbtmXfNUsi=_KkFqu7Srf-4WIL9, it was amazing in my last international trip!

[@thomasobrienphotography]

Thanks ! Same thoughts, have you somes alternative to the 21 or 31 ?

[@dadstoysnthings]

Yes, this is what I ended up using in my last international trip kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4DKin2YbtmXfNU

[@dnguyen536]

do you have the link where to buy the bentley organizer?

[@dadstoysnthings]

Hi, that one came from a local bag store, I have a link to a similar one in the description, also cheaper than the Bentley.

[@TaffyJohnson]

I bought this bag (31L) when it was announced on Kick Starter because I liked the looks and also fell for the influencer photographers at that time. In my opinion and experience, this is the most impractical camera bag I have owned. This reviewer lists pretty much all the negatives and I agree with him. My inconveniences where the waste of spaces inside the cube, the side access design, the front zipper pocket (is only good to carry flat item) and many more. So I took the camera cube out and use it as a carry-in travel bag and it is absolutely wonderful. I have done multiple 2 week overseas trips using this bag. So a great travel bag, YES. A great EDC camera bag, No.

[@dadstoysnthings]

I ended up cutting the cover off the camera cube and replaced all the inner dividers with thinner ones. Also, I used velcro, so the cube is flushed in the bag. Even at that, the side access is still an issue for me. It's a very impractical design.

[@swr410]

What do you dislike about the side access design? It seems like a main selling point of the bag, and even after the video, I’m unsure

[@dadstoysnthings]

@swr410 Due to the cube design, the zippered part gets snagged when you get the camera from the side. The cube really is the huge drawback on this bag, I cut off the cover to make mine usable, used velcro to make it flush to the bag. It didn't feel there's much thought given on the cube and that it was really designed for the bag. Even as a 31L it's so cramped inside that cube, that it was useless for me and I ended up not using it. Wandered should have made the camera compartment similar to the Lite.

[@swr410]

@@dadstoysnthings makes sense, thanks! I really appreciate the detailed video and comment. Hopefully they make a 21L or 31L “Lite” backpack in the future.

[@dadstoysnthings]

@swr410 Thank you, I think the 21L is just the right size, especially if you're bringing it for air travel. If I'm to design that bag, I'd remove the cube, make it like the Lite, and shorten the top pouch and the tote handle. Cause I do miss having that top access, especially when on a plane. Lastly, add a side handle. Overall, it should lower the cost and increase the functionality.

[@dadstoysnthings]

As I start using this bag, I'm finding more annoyances that, I'm now in a hunt for a better alternative. 1. My setup includes a Canon M50 with an RF-S 18-150, RF-S 10-18, an RF 16mm and an RF 35MM, all light lenses. I have a 13 inch laptop, an EL-5 flash, batteries, some cables, a small wireless mic and a DJI action 4. The bag now weighs 25 lbs! In my review I mentioned I didn't like the long top handle. And this proved more of a nuisance as it makes it difficult to carry the bag from the top. 2. The lack of side handle also limits the bag handling. 3. The cube, while bigger on the 31L is also such a pain to use that I made modification, one of which is totally cutting off the front cover. I have no intention of ever carrying the cube separately. I also cut the top handle. The cube is also very unwieldy that I have to find a way to secure it with the bag without sewing it in. I'll post those mods on a separate video.

[@MsMEFlan]

Thank you for your honest assessment of this bag. I loved the Prvke Light which I've been happily using for years, but needed more space for my growing number of lenses. I thought the Prvke 21 would be perfect. Boy, was I wrong! I could hardly get my mirrorless Sony and three lenses to fit into the camera cube. I gave up and returned it. I knew the Prvke 31L would get too heavy so I bought an 18L Thinktank which suits me much better.

[@dadstoysnthings]

And thank you, for sharing your experience. For myself, I did end up selling the Prvke 21. I also have the 31L, which I kept, but I ended up using another bag when I traveled internationally. The PRVKE series has its strengths, but it's very limiting. I expected more for the price I paid for these bags.

[@TomasLiutvinas]

Thanks for great review.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Appreciate the comment!

[@jonuiuc]

I use the similar looking but functionally different Tenba DNA 16 backpack. I prefer the camera "drawer" system on that bag.

[@dadstoysnthings]

I have used the Tenba as well, and I can say I would choose it over the Prvke. I ended up returning the Tenba eventually as I still found it limiting, I ended up with the OneMo Lite.

[@NinaSusanneOfenloch]

I totally agree that the camera cube is an epic fail. They are wasting soooo much space on the dividers, they don't need to be this thick, its completely ridiculous...

[@dadstoysnthings]

Yes, what I did is use divider from my other bags. But because the cube is so shallow, it's difficult to find matching dividers.

[@paulboskerphotography]

What are you talking about not compatible for locks on the zipper eyelets? I'm looking right at them. Unless you're using a huge padlock, typical travelers locks shafts will fit through those eyelets where the pulls are attached.

[@dadstoysnthings]

🙂 Yes, of course you can sneak small locks through those, but that's not what they're there for. I have a camera bag, which is much cheaper, and the zippers are specifically designed for small locks.

[@paulboskerphotography]

@@dadstoysnthings Yes I have a think tank and know what your referring to. But if it works, why fix it?

[@dadstoysnthings]

@paulboskerphotography I guess it depends on where and how you use it. I had to cut the cover of the 31L cube and replace the dividers so the cube becomes usable as an example. In the end, it just didn't work for me.

[@alexmaccape8411]

If Wandrd makes next version 21l with same type of integrated camera cube than the Lite has now, it would be truly a perfect bag. Lite is almost perfect, just a bit small sometimes and is missing some handy pockets. Still, I think that Lite is only usable Prvke at the moment, because those camera cubes 21l and 31l are using add useless weight and eats up the space.

[@dadstoysnthings]

I agree. The Lite actually has the same capacity in the camera section as the 31L. I tried it, and the only reason why I didn't buy it is that it digs into my back when loaded because it's too short.

[@alexmaccape8411]

@@dadstoysnthings fortunately I don’t have that problem - I’ve used Lite since it was released and it is genuinely the best backpack I’ve had, and I’ve had many. Small, roomy, expandable, functional, comfortable, and very stylish. If it only had those extra pockets the bigger brothers have!

[@bmwb10ix]

I have the previous prke 31 and the shimoda 30 litre and they both have this shallow depth. I wish I bought the shimoda 35 litre as its about the same but deeper and the prke 41 is also deeper so you can fit your camera sideways up and fit more lens standing up. The 41 might be too big though and only black. But I have found the prke to be a lot wider than the Shimoda which let me fit a 100-400 width ways with body or a 150-600 on one side and camera with lens on the other side by the pocket. It also has that handy rolltop. And I wish they made light interiors because I can't see anything looking down a black hole. The new sling bags have colour code interiors like the outside. But they are still lovely bags 😁

[@dadstoysnthings]

Great observation, and thank you for telling me about Shimoda, I'm thinking of getting their latest urban explorer. Guess I better do more research. As for the 41L, yes, I found it too big. I also did not end up using the 31L for my international trip, as I found a better bag. I found a solution to the dismal cube size but still not enough to consider using it as a personal item/camera bag.

[@Namaste..]

Good review - certainly changed my mind about buying this bag. From positive to negative.

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thanks for the comment. I actually cut the cube to make it work, which it did. However, I found a better bag and ended up taking that one in my latest international trip instead. Will post the review soon.

[@slickvibez16]

@@dadstoysnthingsplease let us know (even by comment) which bag you got. I’m in the market for one right now!

[@dadstoysnthings]

@slickvibez16 I ended up using the PgyTech Onemo lite. Although Ulanzi just came up with PB-09 and PB-10, you may also want to look at those.

[@nathanraasch]

What bag would you recommend if not this one? :)

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for asking, I ended up using the OneMo lite on my last international travel. You can check out the bag here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4DKin2YbtmXfNU

[@ColdCoffeePhotography]

Really good review, I have the original version & it seems they still haven't learnt lessons with the awful camera cube & useless dividers, plus its still really heavy compared to other bags the same size. I'm going to NYC soon and tempted to order the Peter McKinnon 25l to see whether that might work better?

[@dadstoysnthings]

I've looked at that as well. In the end, I decided with the OneMo Lite, and I was pleasantly surprised how it worked for my needs without the high cost. I also have the Ulanzi BP10 in my sight as it wasn't available when I went through my international trip.

[@ColdCoffeePhotography]

@@dadstoysnthings Thanks for the reply - I'll take a look at both those

[@jorgebowles9318]

this is a proper review, canu fit a 200 600mm lens?

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thanks for watching! The longest lens I have left is the Canon 70-200 F4 IS, and yes, it fits. However, it takes so much space that I won't be able to fit my flash. This cube really was designed for mirrorless with lenses like the EF-M or RF-S lenses.

[@AnonGoogleuser]

Got the Prvke 41 with the small cube and the pro deep cube. It’s by far the worst camera bag I have ever owned. I am wondering if even one of the positive reviewers is a traveling photographer carrying a wet jacket after a downpour in the not separated top compartment, which would break all their gear inside.

[@dadstoysnthings]

I wonder that myself.

[@markalexander142]

Be careful if you buy the backpack in Australia as spare parts are not stocked. I lost chest band as shown in the video, and WNDRD was $5 used to replace and $100 USD to post! Outrageous, find a better supplier because the chest strap is easily lost!

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for the feedback. The strap is also one of the things that made me not use this bag on my international travel.

[@worms85]

As a personal item bag, the 21L fits under the seat area.

[@dadstoysnthings]

I do like the size of the 21L. However, the camera cube made it very difficult for me to consider it on my travel. I think Wandrd did a poor job in its design, wasting a lot of space in the process.

[@Todder-R5]

I have the 21L just took it on a trip to UK and scotland for 10 days. It had mis cable bag ,ssd hard drive my r6, 24-105, my rf70-200 . Had a back up battery pack, 4 canon battery’s , charger, . It was big enough but wish I had got the 31 L

[@dadstoysnthings]

@Todder-R5 The 31L did not fare better in terms of the cube storage. The only way I was able to make it work is by cutting off the cover and then using my own dividers. Still, I found the side access annoying simply due to the design. If Wandrd is ever listening, get rid of the cube on the 21L and use the same structure as the Lite. Remove the tote handle, another annoying and useless feature of the bag, and shorten the top compartment. Also, having no side handle makes it a chore to use it for plane travel. Among other things. I ended up selling my 21L.

[@RealMuperSan]

I wish it had load lifters

[@dadstoysnthings]

That might help. The bag is already heavy in itself.

[@Xanthos84]

Also did not like it very much, I always prefer my Shimoda Explore v2 ... 35 Liter version has enough depth for putting things vertically...

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thanks for the comment! Yes, the Shimoda Explore is definitely bigger. I almost bought the newer Shimoda Urban V2, only that I found it can not stand on its own. I ended up with the OneMo Lite, cheaper and more functional.

[@antant06]

This review is what happens when ppl aren't trying to sell you stuff 😅😅😅 Great review mate!!!

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for watching and for your comment. Appreciate it!

[@neostephens8980]

How can YOU say something is not the best, but then poopoo on other KZbinrs who say it is the best? Isn't that pretty much their own opinion, just like it's your opinion that it's not the best?

[@dadstoysnthings]

Thank you for your comment! And yes, all you see and hear are based on our own experience having acquired the product. I bought this brand, having watched all the "good" things that I saw, and it wasn't as clear-cut as they pictured this bag to be. I tried to make it work by altering the cube, but at the end of the day, the nuisances still outweighed its usability and functionality at least for my intended purpose of using it for my international travel. I'll be glad to hear your own experience with the bag, how did you find it?