What I Would Like to Say to Sogyal Rinpoche.

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Beyond the Temple: Simply Being Now

Beyond the Temple: Simply Being Now

6 жыл бұрын

I made this video a couple of months ago, uploaded it password protected on Vimeo and sent the link and password to Sogyal Rinpoche in the hope that he might watch it. It started with a nice story about an interaction we had so he might remember me, which I have deleted from this version. I never heard back as to whether he had seen it or not, and it's unlikely anyone would have shown it to him because it's quite frank. A friend said I should edit it shorter and post it, so here it is. I found it quite therapeutic to actually talk as if I were speaking to him, so perhaps you would like to think about what you would say to him if you could.

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@wiredwithwalsh6282
@wiredwithwalsh6282 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Nothing is a problem when "Crazy Wisdom" is your guide. As far as I see it "Crazy Wisdom" is another word for undiagnosed and untreated mental illness.
@HarDiMonPetit
@HarDiMonPetit 3 жыл бұрын
Psychopathy to be precise.
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
Of course! It's right there in the term: "Crazy"
@sebastiank9175
@sebastiank9175 2 жыл бұрын
in Tibetan buddhism its so important that when we meet a any rinpoche we should take time to actually observe him over a period of time and not to follow blindly but to have the courage and wisdom to judge if he is the one we want to follow for life. many people refuse to accept reality and have the guts to to address the real problem. in today buddhism tons of so called rinpoche have misuse power, money and the reputation of buddhism to harm others. keep our eyes open, our heart pure and focus.
@michaelburgess6556
@michaelburgess6556 3 жыл бұрын
“By their fruits you shall know them!” - Jesus
@TruthHumble3220
@TruthHumble3220 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful soul ! You open up and are very honest. The difference between Sogyal Rinpoche and a real buddhist seeker is that you have an innocent childlike heart ! The enlightend Being has a real inner wisdom which you can't discribe in Words.You become a humble loving Person with a heart full of love and Empathie. Allways listen to people with your heart. I am trusting with my heart.I I am trusting the 14.Dalai Lama because of his childlike smile that comes directly from his innocent heart. I am feeling with you because you trusted this unworthy person called Sogyal Rinpoche.Please loose everything but never loose your trust.In this World are many more honest people like yourself. I hope you meet more good and kind people. I like Minghur Rinpoche he has also this childlike smile. I don't see him as a Guru more as one of many friends on the path to Enlightement ! But I don't depend on him. I wish you all the best from Germany ! Love & Light from Elsa
@satyamshivamsundaram8174
@satyamshivamsundaram8174 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Lady Beautiful advice ....All of Bhuddha s teachings can be expressed in two sentences. You must help others, and If you cant help, at least you should not harm others....
@dubinthedam
@dubinthedam 6 жыл бұрын
Well put, elegant and honest, and to the very point, I second everything you say.
@Rhombohedral
@Rhombohedral 3 жыл бұрын
the problem Sogyal Rinpoche has passed over
@stevenkok1926
@stevenkok1926 5 жыл бұрын
Living In Peace And Clarity.
@Chevy4109
@Chevy4109 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad his ego is built up to the point of no return. He won't come out to apologize I hope I am wrong. May all be well
@fabienneboussier6571
@fabienneboussier6571 6 жыл бұрын
a very sincere and lucid account of what went wrong . I wish I had done what you did years ago. For the sake of the guru, the dharma and the sangha.
@rossmorebaz
@rossmorebaz 5 жыл бұрын
its sadly ironic that Sogyal Rinpoche who preached the wisdom of egolessness had the biggest EGO of All... im so shocked about the whole thing
@HarDiMonPetit
@HarDiMonPetit 3 жыл бұрын
A well known profile: narcissistic pervert: All praise is his, all blame is yours. They don't deviate of this.
@Cleo2706
@Cleo2706 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard: Sogyal has, years and years ago, been asked by Dujom Rimpoche to come back to India in retreat and leave his activities, so what about that. He did not follow the advice of one of the highest teacher of Nyingma tradition, and a very trustworthy and Moral one for a change
@rileydoe2629
@rileydoe2629 5 жыл бұрын
Cleo2706 he’s attracted to the fame and wealth and sexual pleasures he’s getting. Now it’s obvious I hope people would really wake up
@BesharALAzzawi
@BesharALAzzawi Жыл бұрын
What did he do? Goodness I’m so confused
@pierrenachbaur3453
@pierrenachbaur3453 5 жыл бұрын
Such a sad story .
@sylightfr
@sylightfr 5 жыл бұрын
"when the student is open and exposed to th guru, if the guru's interest is drawn immediatly to the disciple's wallet, thighs or toes, there could be grave consequences. The guru is supposedly the enemy of the emotions: his sole interest should be in unveiling ignorance. Not adding ignorance, emotions and confusion." (Dzongar Jamyang Khyentse, "The guru drinks bourbon")
@Zensadancer
@Zensadancer 8 ай бұрын
There are no teacher other than your own consciousness and your relationship with that consciousness is my opinion. We have all different personalities and past experiences and we have all a so called Buddha nature. The teacher is only there to be a strong mirror so that you can see yourself clearer. It all comes to that only you yourself have responsibility for your actions and your attachments. So I suppose everyone that says they have been treated badly from Sogyal always have had the freedom to say no or leave that situation. My question to everyone that say that Sogyal was a bad guy is WHO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS ???
@frontier9
@frontier9 6 жыл бұрын
Sogyal likes to just dismiss people saying "you don't know the teachings". If anything this is why he has failed, because he doesn't say whay, where, what or how we don't know and make a logical correction. Saying teachings back he should just say "just so, just so" if it is quoting him - it applies to all beings - students and teachers. Hiding some secret knowledge that some how is different from what he taught that we can never know is called spiritual bypassing ... the higher views are in sync and don't override the basic or mahayana teachings AT ALL - that was taught by so many of the experts he brought in to teach Rigpa students. I appreciate your ability to be open and put it all out there. I hope Sogyal hears this. Its not that the road to hell is paved with good intentions - its just that everyone says their intentions are good, even utopian political dictators who commit vast war crimes say "my intentions were good". When you personally benefit far more on a relative level than someone else then it is a selfish act ... when someone offers freely and makes sacrifices that is different than when it is demanded, coerced etc.
@wiredwithwalsh6282
@wiredwithwalsh6282 5 жыл бұрын
If you can't quote his books from memory then you don't know the teachings in his crazy world.
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
Stop calling him "Rinpoche"-he doesn't deserve the title. I understand your desire for an apology but that will never happen. Don't let "closure" depend upon getting an apology because you will never get it. These lamas have no respect for women whatsoever. They see us as lower than animals and think absolutely nothing of using and abusing us with impunity and without remorse. There is no apology coming.
@jillianmcdavitt5068
@jillianmcdavitt5068 6 жыл бұрын
This is really brilliant. Clear and succinct. I followed a Swami for many years but fortunately at a distance. Here in Australia we had a Royal Commission into Institutional Child Abuse and it came to light that my Guru in India was a sexual preditator
@marellahoffman4510
@marellahoffman4510 6 жыл бұрын
True Dharma practitioners will all agree with you. Your warmth and humour could help everyone learn from this and heal.
@333johno
@333johno 6 жыл бұрын
Well said, I agree with all you have said, this is a lesson not to put lamas on a pedestal, be careful who you choose as your teacher, be aware, don't look for a film star type of teacher, crazy wisdom is such an excuse for bad behavior, I tell you what if any lama abused me, punching etc, what ever abuse, I would report it right away to the authority's , and for people to think that abusive behavior is OK, get you heads right, think about it. think about the lord Buddhas teachings.
@lucetteryder7171
@lucetteryder7171 6 жыл бұрын
absolutely brilliantly said with heart and elegance, you are giving Sogyal a way of recovery and resolve that is so heartfelt that I think that nobody could come up with better than this !! Congratulations dear sister!
@pema9459
@pema9459 6 жыл бұрын
Meditate on the sound. It will help you come down your mind.
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
While true, this is beside the point.
@pema9459
@pema9459 6 жыл бұрын
Let it go please. It is enough. May you will happy and joy.
@PhoenixProdLLC
@PhoenixProdLLC 6 жыл бұрын
pe ma No.
@MaiaDreams
@MaiaDreams 3 жыл бұрын
If you had been a victim and you had been severely traumatized, one of the worst things someone could tell you is: ‘let it go, is enough, just be happy’. Healing severe trauma doesn’t work like that unfortunately
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
Pe ma you let it go, and go away. Leave this woman alone, she has suffered enough. What karma do you create for yourself by criticizing her and increasing her suffering? You have no understanding of trauma. Have compassion for the suffering of others.
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she needs to make these videos to process her trauma. Let her! Your criticisms are not helpful. Go away and work on yourself. Leave her alone, let her be. You are the one who needs to let it go.
@Jacket140
@Jacket140 6 жыл бұрын
Enlightenment is beyond concept..no place for judgement.....when your mentality is perfect... world seems perfect platform...otherwise you will see all shits and dirts..... what you expressed and sees in others is what you have in you....i hope this is vijrayana view... In relative level...there is no perfection in this world.... but for trantrayana practioner... every moment, every place and action, every being is perfect... they see all as budha's menifestation( all good and bad since it is one and the same thing)..... so tehlia... budha and budhafield is infront of you.. but your delusion/ 5 poison prevented from seeing it....
@PhoenixProdLLC
@PhoenixProdLLC 6 жыл бұрын
Chador2017 Chador2017 YOU are the deluded one!
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
Warning: this Kool Aid contains a blame-the-victim mentality.
@equalsone6741
@equalsone6741 4 жыл бұрын
Blaming Sogyal R for others people instabillity, insecurities... all you feeding on him are so boring and weak
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
WOW. For someone commenting about Buddhism you show a complete lack of kindness and compassion.
@equalsone6741
@equalsone6741 2 жыл бұрын
You are dumb, thats a lack of basic inteligence, and telling you the facts is just telling facts. I didnt want to hurt your egomanic fellings
@equalsone6741
@equalsone6741 2 жыл бұрын
You are dumb, thats a lack of basic inteligence, and telling you the facts is just telling facts. I didnt want to hurt your egomanic fellings
@equalsone6741
@equalsone6741 2 жыл бұрын
You are dumb, thats a lack of basic inteligence, and telling you the facts is just telling facts. I didnt want to hurt your egomanic fellings
@equalsone6741
@equalsone6741 2 жыл бұрын
You are dumb, thats a lack of basic inteligence, and telling you the facts is just telling facts. I didnt want to hurt your egomanic fellings
@loekaenloekie
@loekaenloekie 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever is true or not, this person is irritating me...
@mistyfog
@mistyfog 2 жыл бұрын
Then don't watch it. Go away!
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