What if Aang never ran away? [ Avatar: Alternate History ]

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[@HelloFutureMe]

Let me know down below: which is your *favourite ancient civilisation* and why? I'm afraid I'll have to be extremely boring and say Rome. I've been playing the Elder Scrolls too long to not love a good imperial society. That said, I do have a soft spot for the old Celts. What do you think would have happened in this timeline, and would you like to see more alt. history videos? ~ Tim

[@Feltkitty705gaming]

Hello Future Me I like Egypt but definitely like to learn about rome

[@namelessphantom216]

Hello Future Me hey its fine elder scrolls may be the best game but ur opinion matters so its not boring its fascinating

[@Artemis77700]

Hello Future Me I say Greeks there pretty cool

[@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773]

Hello Future Me I love Ancient China and Japan! :)

[@hamilton_lamstrash2879]

Greeks all the way!!!!

[@kbabergo]

I feel like Iroh and Gyatso would have been best buds.

[@abdulm.6]

They would because I remember a episode where iroh said that airbenders have a great sense of humor

[@leopaldbarnibus3434]

Mohamed M. The episode where he was trying to reach Zuko lightning bending

[@tamarakadeishvili7214]

Ah, yes, I imagine them drinking tea and eating/throwing cakes, talking wisdom in riddles while zuko screams "WHAT ARE YOU TWO EVEN TALKING ABOUT"

[@abigailperez2611]

they probably would

[@leonard797]

Same

[@julianG1212]

I can only imagine how powerful Monk Gyatso was to kill all the comet enhanced firebenders. Amazing

[@wolfkingomega1405]

Prob sucked all the air from everyone b4 he went out. He was in the center too. Surrounded by died ampied firebenders. He deff went out badass

[@brianmachado4839]

He killed like 50 enhanced soldiers when one was enough to deal with all the benders in the play fields and maybe a dozen in the main temple, he was a Air BENDER a master full and complete, a guy who even avatar Roku respected

[@inamdaryasin]

Soldiers aren't really strong to compare look at the final episode when toph easily beat fire nation soldiers during sozin comet.

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

@@inamdaryasin Duh, its toph

[@Riptide823]

Inamdar Yasin toph is also the best earth bender in the world so it would make sense that she could do that

[@lemonjuice7136]

If Aang didn’t run away cabbage man would never be in the show

[@0vern9K]

😭😂

[@Leviathan56]

Thats so true

[@supimpanda2312]

That's the absolute worst fate lmao

[@Hairybals]

My cabbages!!!!

[@momsspaghetti8093]

Sup I'm Panda you’re not the brightest one are you?

[@isaiahjackson8416]

I’ve always liked the “Avatar Yue” theory that Yue was supposed to be the next Avatar had Aang lived out his life normally (living to 96 I think). That’s why she was born “asleep”, she was waiting for the Avatar spirit that didn’t come because the timeline didn’t align like it was supposed to. It’s got no real footing, more just a coincidence, but I still think it’s a cool theory.

[@seanlaster901]

That’s also why korra became avatar

[@hairyspiders407]

Wait do all avatars live to 96 cus Kyoshi lived to 230 and the one water dude lived to be like 36

[@isaiahjackson8416]

Madison Is a person no, I just did the math that Aang would have lived naturally to 96 if he were to die then be reborn as Yue who I think is 14 but I might not be fully right on that one

[@andrianmalic4581]

It wouldnt work cause the avatar is borned immediately when the previous one dies and aang was live in the iceberg so...

[@isaiahjackson8416]

Andrian Malic dude reread my comment. It’s a theory that if Aang had lived normally then Yue could have been the next Avatar

[@HyperChronos27]

What if Iroh became firelord like he was originally supposed to, instead of Ozai?

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

Since his son died, he might have ended the war. Unless Ozai decided to poison him too

[@kylechin8706]

He would have economically taken over the world with tea.

[@TheRealSkateboard]

Kyle Chin I’m with Iroh

[@user-sr2zo7lt8q]

Zuko would be 2x hotter without his scar if iroh was the fire lord

[@obseed3041]

Don't assume he will be as nice or gentle when that happens. He may not be as powerful as Ozai (Look at how fast Ozai makes lightning BEFORE the comet arrived during the eclipse) but he's definitely more equipped in strategic or tactical advantage. Throughout the series, we were told that Ba Sing Se was the most impenetrable city the fire nation can't conquer. Yet, Iroh managed to _almost_ do it. If not for his son dying, he would've conquered it and exponentially sped the fire nation's domination all over the world. The only reason he's so nice in the series is because he wants to rebel against the nature of firebenders at the time. Their lust for power got his son killed and so he doesn't want to be like that anymore. That's what he wanted to teach Zuko too. Just take things slow and not live for the sake of honor. If his son survived, who knows how he would've acted.

[@McOuroborosBurger]

Aang: “I don’t want to kill” Gyatzo: Haha, air go yeet.

[@ok-sm7bb]

Lmfao

[@Gemini-Lion]

😂

[@justanotherenthusiast1550]

Lmao

[@Cartman4wesome]

More like “I don’t want to kill unless it’s offscreen”. Remember during the Final Fight, when he threw those rocks at Ozai’s Ship. A good chunk of the crew members had to of died during that crash.

[@andrianmalic4581]

Aang: Violence isnt the answer. Kioshi: You are right its the question and the answer is yes.

[@ryanrockstar16]

I bet Aang would’ve been fine with his earth bending he could’ve trained with a younger Bumi

[@lanaa.1]

Hahahahahahahahahhaha

[@mrzsanaghazan]

Thing is that the older Bumi was way way way more experienced with earth-bending. knowing this, I believe that young toph would definitely win a fight against old Bumi. Young bumi would be waaaay less experienced than old bumi and even then, old bumi would lose to young toph. With this logic, I think that this alternate timeline aang wouldn't even be able to TOUCH main-timeline aang where he was thought by toph.

[@maxwellsimon4538]

Bumi was a long time personal friend of aang and would likely have had a much easier time figuring out how to properly train someone as passive as aang in earthbending. Bumi had a much more spiritual view on earthbending, as compared to toph, which jives really well with aang's own philosophy. I feel if Aang was given time to study earthbending philosophy in a way catered to him by Bumi, he'd have a much easier time picking it up, but probably wouldn't happen as quickly. Bumi had aang seek out toph because he knew he was too old to teach, and would not have the time to give aang the lessons his way.

[@brutemouse6024]

@@mrzsanaghazan well its also of who trained Bumi? Aang could have trained alongside bumi instead of him being the trainer.

[@Lee-ic8tq]

If gyatso and aang moved to the earth kingdom, then there would be a high chance that they went to omashu since it was one of the major city's. And aang being there probably wouldn't have changed bumi that much. So bumi could've learned this ability probably quicker because he now got a bender friend. And if aang got an earth bending teacher then he would've told bumi what he learned, and bumi would experiment more with Earth bending. Which means that aang would have been able to bend like bumi, and bumi was able to Earth bend with just his mind and would've taught that to aang. We don't know how old bumi was when he started bending or training but aang would have felt a lot of guilt because of the genocide, which probably lead to him deciding that he needed to master all four elements quicker so that never happens again. Which led to bumi training earlier. Now the reason that they would move to omashu was probably because aang wanted to learn all four elements and gyatso disagreed because he needed to be a child and not an avatar. But because aang was stubborn he would've pushed for it and gyatso would have agreed. Now gyatso wanted aang to be a child but aang said no gyatso would've still tried to make aang happy. And since aang probably talked about his time in omashu and how happy he was with his friend bumi, gyatso would want to move there, for aang. Now because bumi knew how to earth bend with his mind and taught that too aang, aang (or gyatso) would have probably figured out that you can do this with the other elements as well. Which means that aang was able to water bend with his mind. Air and fire would've been more complected since you can just make that. Aang would probably discover irohs signature move which is breathing fire out of his nose and mouth. And since gyatso probably knew the air bending technique where you suck out all the air of the room (or somebody) he would've taught aang that outta self defense. He would've also probably trained with a dragon to learn fire. And he would be able to master the avatar state fully. So if aang could ever get captured then he would be able to escape easily. And he may not have had seismic sense or be able to redirect lighting, but he probably would've been able to defeat the fire lord easier. And anyone who would've went against him. And I think that aang would've been better and stronger than kyoshi because of this.

[@LordHam01]

The only problem I have with these timelines is that iroh would never be born

[@jaceynewsome4148]

exactly

[@naeysp]

Oh that is true. It would change up the entire Fire nations royal family

[@aishxnel]

NOOOOOOO IROH WHYYYYY

[@shannonhensley2942]

But he would have never created as much distruction. Iron was the driving force of most of the distruction of the southern water tribe. And the loss of his own family. It is this time where the civilians of the fire nation are putting all of their money into the he war and would have deviated a lot of the economy. Hence the little amount of war ships in the first 2 books. They had the ability to send all of their warships but didn't because of the economic cost of doing so.

[@jackb.207]

@@shannonhensley2942 people so easily forget that Iroh was war General, masterfull tactician and a mass murder

[@theskepticpirate156]

A few ideas for another alternate history. 1) What if Aang had died for real at the end of Book 2. 2) What if Zuko was never banished. 3) What if Toph chose to save Appa while the library was sinking. 4) What if Aang was never found in the iceburg. 5) What if Iroh never lost his son. And for shits and giggles: What if Aang's lie at the end of The Great Divide wasn't a lie.

[@obseed3041]

1) If Aang died, then the fire nation will win and be the rulers for generations to come. The avatar line gets stopped if the current one dies in the avatar state. 2) Zuko would have probably be like Azula in attitude, if not, quite less of an asshole but still... The only thing that humbled him is his separation from Iroh after all they've been through. If not for that, he would still be the Zuko we knew from the beginning. But then again, he was just such a hot-head is because he wants to restore his honor. Maybe he would have been a nicer firelord; but under Ozai's supervision? I don't think so... 3) She would have lost both. She wasn't used to sand bending at the time and can't "see" clearly. She would have failed saving Appa but Aang would most likely use the avatar state to get to safety. 4) I guess he would still be stuck there. The avatar would continue to be presumed dead until his iceburg gets discovered. The firenation would still win if he doesn't get found sooner than when Katara and Sokka did. (He barely won against Ozai without the help of the avatar state due to lack of training) 5)Iroh would have conquered Ba Sing Se. Who knows how sooner the fire nation could conquer the world with the help of the Earth Kingdom. The only reason Iroh became laidback is because of the lost of his son.

[@obseed3041]

If the lie was true then great lmao XD It's a story that helped the two groups get along regardless

[@Eh.........]

@@obseed3041 well done

[@adolfocepeda6633]

@@obseed3041 but aang couldve destroyed fire lord, he was holding back because of his beliefs. Plus the comet not only wouldve helped the fire lord but aangs fire power too

[@obseed3041]

@@adolfocepeda6633 Adolfo Cepeda I'm assuming you're talking about no. 4. The only move that Aang ever got close to killing off Ozai for good without Avatar State is when he successfully redirected lightning. He could've redirected it right back at Ozai and poof the end. Ozai never expected he could do that since Lightning redirection was only taught to the royal family of the fire nation (Later localized by Zuko when he became fire lord in Korra's time) And yes I do agree that he could easily kill Ozai with that BUT my point in no. 4 is that he already had too little time to enhance his bendings. The question for that is what if he was never found. My argument is that he would still be stuck there and if he somehow gets out then he would have even smaller time for practicing the other three elements. Who knows if he would still meet the mentors he had, his teachers at bending were considerably good at the original and it still wasn't enough. Yes he was held back by his beliefs but to say that he could've destroyed Ozai without them is farfetched lmao. You can clearly see he was using all of his cards against a boosted firelord on their last fight but he can't win. Yes the comet could boost Aang's firebending too but the comet doesn't boost skills. Ozai could conjure lightning with just a glimpse of the sun after the eclipse. He got the skills [and literally boosted firepower] to finish Aang if not for the latter's hesitation to redirect the lightning back or the avatar state.

[@Excalibur-Sonic]

I like the idea of Aang and Gyatso being able to be together.

[@E140Fanatic]

Would've made for a very heartwarming series with plenty of badassery!

[@cabbageman2184]

Yeah their relationship is so pure and wholesome 😪

[@dustinjoosen5901]

in the fan-fiction way or???

[@Blackzxr]

Dustin Joosen are you dumb no duh as friends

[@ThePinkRubber]

@@dustinjoosen5901 i pray that people who make the fanfict would burn as the fire nation coal

[@owlesent]

Also the dragons. There would be more dragons. Just wanted to say that

[@shaylawolfley5375]

i think zuko got a dragon from the egg that “almost felt alive” in “The Firebending Masters”

[@bingbong6889]

And lionturtles

[@10bayekofsiwa15]

@@bingbong6889 I don't believe it was stated that the hundred year war had anything to do with the decline of lion turtles

[@romeom4830]

Also I think katara would be the next water tribe avatar if Aang didn’t run away

[@10bayekofsiwa15]

@@romeom4830 well not necessarily because katara would've been born 86 AG or something and if aang died before then it would be someone else

[@quickredf0x143]

Ever since Zaheer pulled the air out of the Earth Queen's lungs I've had a head canon that Gyatso did that to all the people in his murder room. Just imagine the amount of skill he had at his hands as an air bending master with a life time of experience. Zaheer had like a month at most.

[@Mysterios1989]

I think one element was missing in this analysis. I believe it is very likly that Gyatso was part of the white lotus. We know that entligthend masters of their paths, from every element and even these without elements, were part of the white lotus. And basically every character that we have seen that played Pai Sho was part of it. It is not certain as Gyatso never used the white lotus tile in the short flashback, the way he hinted that he wanted to teach Aang more in the ways of Pai Sho gives the impression that he would want to teach him more about the ideals and morals that are the core of the white lotus (not to mention that the white lotus itself is basically an embodyment of the ideals of the Avatar). So, if this theory is true, than it would have a major influence on the timeline of a Gyatso and Aang escape. Both would have found shelter by using the white lotus and as it is a group that expands beyond nations and elements, it would be an ideal source to give Aang a master for each element, in addition to maybe even expend his fighting style beyond the boundaries of bending. Just imagine an Avatar that was teached by the finest of each element, just to than add the training of a non-bending martial arts master who is able to stand against benders on equal footing.

[@mohdghazali3473]

Since Gyatso and Aang were there, also for the fact that the Dark Horse comic said that there a few Air Nomad Survivor,the White Lotus, Monk Gyatso and Aang will probaly save this Air Nomad Survivor from falling to the Fire Nation trap as their first priority then the Fire Nation colony in the Earth Kingdom and finaly war with the Fire Nation. Also in the original timeline, according to Fire Sage Shyu, the Fire Sage decided to serve the Fire Lord because they were persecuted by the Fire Lord and the Avatar never came even though they have waited for a long time to keep the balance of the world. so if we follow your analysis and timelline than aside from the important role that the White Lotus will played in keeping the four nation especially the Air Nomad, Fire Nation and The Earth Kingdom since they are the only affected party, the Air Nomad lead by Monk Gyatso will probaly changed the Air Nomad believe and value similar to the Air Nation by allowing aggression as the last resort for protection purpose, the Fire Sage will keep their loyalty to the Avatar and maybe they will probaly fight alongside the White Lotus, the Bhanti Tribe and the Sun Warior. It was also revealed on the the Dark Horse comic that the Fire Lord was supposed to became the leader of the Fire Sage and the Fire Sage was actually the spiritual Coucil of Elder who governt and lead the Fire Nation as spiritual nation similar to Air Nomad before one of the Fire Lord split and became the monarch of Fire Nation slowly changing it from the spiritual people to became the military driving nationalism, so it safe to said that after the fall of Sozin or Azulon the Fire Sage with the help of Bhanti Tribe (and maybe also the Sun Warior Civilisation) will lead the Fire Nation and keep the order in the Fire Nation Land in the even of chaos and the fall of government, also no doubt there gonna be opposition toward them. The next role of the White Lotus and Avatar Aang (or next Avatar) will became important to help the Fire Nation with the repairation that Earth Kingdom will most likely demand, ease the oppossition in the Fire Nation and rebuilt it, calming the Earth Kingdom anger toward Fire Nation, forming good relationship and keeping it between the 4 nation especially between Earth Kingdom and Fire Nation. Sorry for a long comment.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Mysterios1989 Dude! That’s awesome! That’s an amazing idea! I’d love to see the Avatar that was most powerful without their Avatar State, which only means they’d be more god-like in the Avatar State than anyone. Then, maybe there’s also the possibility that that since Aang would be trained by the White Lotus, he’d be able to use his staff as a better weapon, and maybe even be able to Chi-Block as well. Paku, Pian Dow and Bumi (he’d be really young) wouldn’t really be around to help him, and so by the time our Team Avatar all came about, I doubt they’d ever meet each other. Would be epic to see a god-like Aang, but sad to see the gang split up forever.

[@RammsteinFan1122]

@@thalmoragent9344 I don't think there's any correlation between non-Avatar State power and Avatar State power. The Avatar State is merely the knowledge and power of all previous Avatars. The power is in controlling it. Aang wasn't any more powerful in the Avatar State in the beginning of S1 as he was at the end of it even though he learned a lot of waterbending in that time. Now the Avatar after this beefed up version of Aang would have been one mean motherfucker.

[@thalmoragent9344]

GermanAf I thought it at least magnified your base powers by at least a considerable amount as well, tho you could also be right. But I mean, power output from the Avatar with and then without the Avatar State is pretty different tho, is it not? At least a bit? You’re still right in the control tho, it’s more focused once you’ve mastered it. Because with your logic, as long as you were an extremely powerful Avatar, then the avatar state wouldn’t ever have to be used by you to accomplish more dramatic feats, which is why I believe that it has a power output that multiples that of the users power at least by a decently large bit, no?

[@RammsteinFan1122]

​@@thalmoragent9344 Well I imagine like so: When Aang goes into the Avatar state he clearly has mastery of elements he has not yet learned, that means he channels the power of the previous avatars. It's also shown that his normal bending gets hella more powerful in the state. So it might be that all the power the previous avatars had gets added together plus his own and that's his final power output in the avatar state. His own powers remain the same, so if he has some crazy non-bending fighting technique it wouldn't be more powerful in the avatar state. Or an example from the show perhaps: Aang is the first avatar to "master" seismic sense, he used it against Ozai (outside the avatar state). His seismic sense wouldn't have been more accurate or more powerful INSIDE the avatar state as no previous avatar has mastered this technique. I think... straight up no idea though :D

[@pokemonmaster1030]

Guys, one of the most serious effects of these timelines..... Metalbending and Bloodbending would never be created by Toph or Hama, both were created because of the war and Aang's original journey!!!!!

[@makotonaegi4419]

I feel like it wouldn’t)t be that hard to discover metalbending it’s actually pretty simple tbh.

[@ShadowBolt869]

Blood bending is irrelevant

[@goofyhouse4122]

BlueVortex01 not in korra it wasn’t . Plus it’s cool and powerful af

[@jacqueka]

Hama would have either found no one to learn blood bending or found someone to learn it and abuse it even worse than in Korra.

[@sw33t21]

I definitely feel like it would have been created, just by someone else and for different circumstances. There are plenty of people who are vile enough to try and bloodbend. Just take yakone from the legend of korra. He might have discovered blood bending and he also is able to do it without the full moon so therefore it would have been even more of a threat. And also metal bending is just finding the earth thats refined in the metal made, I’m sure someone would have figured it out

[@Ballsucker933]

I have a theory... Guru patik said he got a message saying that aang would need help and would be coming to the eastern air temple, which we know was where aang was going to train to master all four elements 100 years ago. GURU PATIK WAS THERE FOR 100 YEARS!!!

[@mrzsanaghazan]

But how old was guru patik when he was teaching aang about the avatar state in the main-timeline?

[@mhmbet7842]

@@mrzsanaghazan He was actually around 150 so I think it's possible that Guru Pathik was there 100 years ago, waiting for Aang.

[@mrzsanaghazan]

@@mhmbet7842 Oh damn, so guru patik was there for him. Nice.

[@mypowerlevelisover9000]

Well that would be an interesting development That would mean aang could go avatar state on his own and with the full power of avatar state it is highly unlikely that there would be any war

[@cageybee7221]

@@mrzsanaghazan pretty fucking old by the looks of it.

[@Abitheartist]

Alternate history of the alternate history: Aang learns waterbending... Foggy Swamp Style!

[@joelchrono]

Honestly imagine Aang controlling the vines like that swamp monster

[@cageybee7221]

honestly that seems possible if he was hiding out in the earth kingdom and then the fire navy blockaded it, it would be very dangerous to cross the oceans and Gyatso of all people would probably know about the foggy swamp and take Aang there to learn waterbending, rather than risk being boarded or shot out of the sky by the fire navy.

[@zachryder3150]

Toph would have become Melon-Lord, would have faced off against Ozai. The only reason the show didn't go with this is because no-one wants a 23 second long finale...

[@merrittanimation7721]

Zach Ryder And she would have conquered the world under an oppressive heal of summer deliciousness

[@thewatermelonjesus1177]

Hey man. Someone’s already got that title

[@JohnyMCness]

23 seconds? guess she taunted for 20 seconds

[@Prince_the_One]

@@JohnyMCness honestly she woulda got burnted.

[@tasium5296]

Woooosh

[@devinsamuel3612]

"What if Aang doesn't run away?" Aang gets killed during the Air Nomad Genocide. The next Avatar is a Water Bender (Hama, maybe?) who successfully ends the war about 70 years early, but then dies around 87 AG. The next Avatar is born to an Earth Kingdom family, but tragically shortly after birth the child become extremely sick and loses the ability to see. Despite this, and despite her parents attempting to keep her sheltered and hidden from her duties to the world, Avatar Toph becomes the Greatest Avatar Who Ever Lived, and you've all got to deal with it. I refuse to accept any alternate timeline.

[@staggeringbeauty9635]

Devin Samuel no the cycle ends, the cycle needs all of the elements if one is wiped out the cycle cant move on the writers even said it

[@coconoisette]

@@staggeringbeauty9635 Toph is more powerful than the writers

[@josheydubs]

I would like to think that If Aang didn't run away, even if he is killed, the Air Nomads could survive. Even if its only a few of them. At least enough to repopulate for another Air Avatar.

[@bernarddeocampo1776]

@@staggeringbeauty9635 unless Aang was killed in the Avatar state the cycle doesn't end

[@epicfan1598]

Bernard Deocampo but you need all 4 elements to populate the avatar if there are no airbenders than the avatar cycle would end especially since you can’t have an air nomad avatar if all the air nomads are dead

[@jerome6519]

While I was watching at 4:02 the lumin commercial comes on so it says. Gyatso goes to aangs room and says." Nothing is sexier than a man who takes care of himself." The timing couldn't have been more perfect.

[@gis9095]

I got an ad and time by NF started playing it was so funny

[@faryhahuda5503]

Made my day 😂

[@billnyesmassivethighs3847]

The ultimate wisdom

[@zephyrworthington6445]

I got "Gyatso goes to Aang's room and says... 'Your skincare routine... SUCKS.'" XD

[@alilordoftheskies5079]

I wasn't looking at my screen and an ad with really loud music started playing so I got really confused as to why Gyatso would start blaring music.

[@martinthelvl10wizard]

Don't forget that without Aang Toph would probably never have learned metalbending and Sokka wouldn't have got that super sweet space sword (despite losing it anyway)

[@sublimebouquetblaze9198]

Didn't he get it back? I'm sure I saw the official art of him with the space sword

[@martinthelvl10wizard]

The official art might have been from when he did have it

[@Poonchow]

I imagine Toph helped Sokka find his special space sword after the battle.

[@jasonmadx]

In official art released around the time of "Avatar: The Legend of Korra", Aang's Team Avatar was drawn in adult form (between the age of the series and Korra's flashbacks). In this artwork, Sokka is shown with the sword, which apparently means he managed to retrieve it.

[@AstarTiamat]

And Katara wouldn't have left the village and got the water bending scroll or a teacher.

[@zuko1569]

Can you do "What if Zuko killed Ozai" when he redirected the lightning to his father?

[@Rhekon]

Then Zuko and Aang wouldn't be best friends. Their friendship is already tenuous at times given their statuses.

[@riftbandit223]

Feel like what if Zuko killed his dad instead of letting his face be scarred would be more dramatic.

[@WesStacey]

I think this was somewhat discussed by Iroh in the last few episodes when Zuko asks him to help take on the fire lord. it would have either just continued or the fire nation itself would likely have broken apart. There are two options that i think would occur. 1. Either the Fire nation would descend into civil war with the killing being viewed as a coup and the military of the Fire nation splitting up and supporting either Zuko or Azula. 2. The much more likely route would be that Azula would become fire lord. She had the political prowess and backing of the fire nation military at the time, where as Zuko was the "Banished Prince" for most of his life and was only recently welcomed back into the fold. I don't think it would have been difficult for Azula to sell Zuko as a traitor and turn the military against him. Plus she already had the support of the Dia Li and even had them as body guards during the eclipse so they would have already been well placed to help her take over. I think Zuko would have been captured/killed before he had even had a chance to gain any support what-so-ever. And from what we saw of Azula towards the end of the series she would likely have been a more brutal and deranged leader than Ozai. Iroh new this better than most. He knew and if someone other than the Avatar defeated Ozai it would have been viewed as a Coup and the fire nation would likely have either broken down into civil war, or some other fire lord would have taken over and continued the war as is.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Wes Stacey Which is why the Avatar is important as an impartial mediator. Someone with little to no connection to the majority of people is good for diplomacy and not killing people. Which probably why Season Two of Legend of Korra went so bad or her.

[@TheRobidog]

Zuko couldn't have beaten Ozai there. The first scenario makes sense because it could have happened if Zuko had decided differently. But even if Zuko would have fought his father, he would have lost and probably been scarred anyway, so it's a bit pointless to theorize.

[@NighthawkX02]

Aang would have trained with Katara's grandma and end up dating her instead lol

[@dcry1003]

@@DShK-38 ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°👌

[@wortz9291]

The art of bending over

[@squirrelcoom]

Or he could've met Hama, she was cute when teenager and she was a waterbender

[@yourworstnightmare4694]

@@DShK-38 bending those cheeks

[@elliefischer9078]

kanna would most likely not even have been born and if she was she would be 1 or 2 lmao also she would’ve been in the northern tribe

[@judechristiani.nepomuceno9765]

What if Azula had a good relationship with her mom.

[@WoozidanTassia]

These are the real questions

[@user-pi1lb4tf2f]

This could either go with Azula becoming a proper person and the most powerful ally Aang could have. Or the mom would accept to be evil and Zuko may never become Aang's ally.

[@sayba6766]

*_☠️_*

[@imanuelc143]

@@sayba6766*Vine boom intensifies

[@JellyNightSquid94]

Ozai wouldn't allow it.

[@kelvinmaldonado4540]

“It would be the 10 or 20 year war which isn’t nearly as impressive” The Seven Year war:(・_・)

[@jomstomp]

world war 1 and 2 weren’t 10 years long

[@GTAandApplechannel]

John Saturn because it’s have an impressive name and many casualties

[@sayba6766]

*_(° _ ° )_*

[@danielmontoya2494]

@@jomstomp yeahbut they were massive in casualties and nations involved

[@ryu-kun6518]

Title: What if aang never ran away? Me: then he'll never meet Katara

[@rexshade2949]

横糸CyberAlphaYT then he would stay a virgin forever

[@vivianeziefula.n.2836]

@@rexshade2949 😂😂

[@erenjaeger1738]

Republic city would never existed

[@scienceuser99]

@@rexshade2949 Not necessarily. There were plenty of beautiful women 100 years ago prior lol.

[@zinfidelbeats]

The MeanestKitten but you’re not the avatar

[@brandon82605]

Aang did claim to have friends from the fire nation when he was younger so I have a feeling that the story would have led to one of the taking control of the fire nation

[@Realivangarcia]

Brandon Williams He’s a nomad so Aang being friends with people from the fire nation, it’s not far fetched. His people were travelers.

[@guess6635]

@@Realivangarciaindeed, and it's not just "not far fetched" but a fact as well. In the first episode he said that he "Have friends all over even in the Fire Nation, and one of his best friends "Kuzon" was from the Fire Nation which is why Aang out of the rest of the group sees the good in the Fire Nation since he remembers a time when they weren't try to take over the world.

[@juandavidrestrepoduran6007]

guess 66 kuzon himself could have taught him/ learned with him as Katara did or led him to someone who knew how to fire bend

[@alemoncitrus8285]

Bumi could have taught him earthbending, too.

[@assassintwinat8]

This begs the question of whether or not Kuzon would have chosen Aang over the Fire Nation. As Tim said, Fire Nation citizens were very patriotic, and Kuzon was just a boy when the war started. He would have had no way of knowing Aang was the Avatar (and probably never did. oh wow I just realized that). And if he did oppose the war, what would have happened? Would he have just kept quiet and stayed home? Would he have run away? How would he have found out Aang was the Avatar? He certainly would have known about the Air Nomad genocide, and likely would have believed his friend Aang had been killed by his people. Would that have been enough to convince him to oppose the war? And depending on how vocal he was in his opposition, would the Fire Nation have tolerated it? Would he have been imprisoned or even executed?

[@Beacuzz]

I've heard a fun idea that Yue was supposed to be the water avatar. It would make sense that she needed a spirt boost to survive if she was suppose to have the avatar spirt. A female avatar in the heavly sexist northern water tribe society would shake their beliefs. They would have to decide if they were going to ban her from fighting and thus her destiny or break tradition and teach to a girl.

[@user-jl2ec2ko4v]

They would probably have to. As shown when Aang's first firebending master refuesed Roku spooked him good to change his mind. Something similar would probably happen in that situation.

[@kamikazesenpai21]

I like that theory

[@Problemsolver434]

That theory makes no sense though. The Avatar can only be born when the former one dies. Aand was alive. He was even still in the Avatar state. There's no way his replacement was being born. It makes no sense

[@isaacpowrie465]

@@Problemsolver434 also the southern water tribe is the tribe the avatar would be born into. The previous water avatar was kuruk who i think was from the northern water tribe it doesnt make any sense by itself anyway.

[@shroomesh6456]

@@Problemsolver434 but if Aang didn’t live to 96 then maybe Yui would have been able to be avatar

[@todd7383]

This would mean no momo and j refuse to accept this timeline

[@leeminhoe8037]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/raXFlJSNo96VsNU

[@NeumaghAnon]

Depending on the retiming of things, we may have seen... Avatar Sokka!

[@josephbilderback4549]

That's right I'm Sokka! It's Pronounced with an -Okka!

[@Maydaypayday7]

And his spirit animal would be his boomerang

[@zforce7925]

Avatar state sokka would look amazing

[@iwaizumisleftnosehair3582]

The avatar was supposed to be a female from the southern water tribe. And was confirmed by Nickelodeon that it was supposed to be Katara if he didn’t go in the iceberg

[@shaylawolfley5375]

i would love that

[@rhythmrainbow]

No one ever talks about Aang's Avatar State powers. He not only put himself in a cryogenic state, but also did the same to Appa. That's more awesome than taking away bending, because he basically created a one-way time machine. Now that would be a cool topic....Avatar powers.

[@skullraven7723]

The downside of that was he shortened his life.

[@GigaPhoenix9001]

@@skullraven7723 ??? There was no shortening of his life, infact Korra seemed to have been born a year or less after he died. And even if there was shortening, we're talking advancing 100 vs losing 20ish years off of natural death...? I still have no idea what you could be referring to.

[@GigaPhoenix9001]

I'm not sure that could be counted as an Avatar Power, it's really just freezing yourself and your massive air mount, while submerged by water. A huge feat but not one beyond a great water bender that can freeze large amounts of water. Done in the south pole no less, so no effort into making it last, It possibly could have lasted much longer if "My bother and I" Never disturbed it.

[@michaelnewman6936]

It sucks your thread got hijacked by a fool, but yes... avatar abilities are beyond. .. the next one after Kora will be an earth bender, and metal bending is going places

[@yeahkeen2905]

peyton the fact that he’s in the avatar state doesn’t make it an Avatar Power. All he did was make a big ball of ice. Are you saying that a water bender can’t do that? We’ve seen water benders make big-ass waves before. Making a ice ball big enough to contain a 12 year old and an elephant sized animal shouldn’t be too hard for a skilled water bender. A better example for an avatar power would be the moon spirit avatar he made.

[@NicKTsanicK7]

"While it's impossible to say who Aang would have trained with..." Are we forgetting the fact that Aang is friends with probably the strongest earthbender at that time? It wouldn't be a stretch to say that Aang would flee to Omashu.

[@char1007]

no chance bumi was the strongest earth bender when they were kids. Bumi had 100 years to train earthbending when Aang met him in the series

[@thekingbradable]

Yeah but I doubt Bumi was an earth bending master at his age.

[@lunardreamd3672]

Aang: * Powers Up in the Avatar state * Azula: Haha lightning go brrrrrrr

[@kksthekillerwins8330]

Haha brrr

[@kingwest171]

What if Zuko chose to side with Iroh instead of Azula during the book 2 finale?

[@Eh.........]

@theLundLs not really, since then it would be 3vs 1 against Azula

[@louiserozu8609]

He wouldn't have made Mai his girl since it started after his betrayal to Iroh. Also, zutara will be a canon threat to kataang cause that's where they first shared a bond.

[@gowrishankar1540]

he still would have been an immature person who dosent know what to do...he would have been with Iroh but not with avatar ...

[@BabeSavagexo]

They would took Azula down easily

[@viprthered]

kingwest171 that was the original plan at first then they changed there minds

[@slyninja4444]

Tbh, in the first scenario the Airbenders would have probably survived. Keep in mind, the Air Nomad Genocide was not about racial superiority, but rather the elimination of the Avatar. If Aang used the avatar state during the genocide, and was captured, the Fire Nation would have seen little point in dealing with the rest of the airbenders.

[@darksukiyaki1917]

Captured? the whole point of the air nomad genocide was to make the avatar trigger the avatar state and then killing him thus ending the cycle of avatars.

[@masonakamara7556]

DarkSukiyaki only we the audience know that at the beginning of the series. So I’m did not know that

[@myramoria7763]

That's a fair point

[@victorconway444]

They also wanted to wipe out ANY threat to their new empire, the Avatar simply being the biggest among them but not the only threat. That meant almost all non-fire benders. That's what they did in the Southern Water Tribe, its what they did in the Earth colonies (and, under Ozai, attempted to do to the entire remnant of the Earth Kingdom), it's probably what they would've done with the Northern Water Tribe if that invasion succeeded (as well as Zhou's motive to destroy the moon), and I'm pretty sure that's also part of the reason for the Air Nomad genocide. The only people that seemed to be spared by the Fire Nation were non-benders, because they were (supposedly) not a threat. Yet, as far as we know, the AIr Nomads didn't have a non-bender population. So every man, woman, and child was a target.

[@9308323]

​@@darksukiyaki1917 That can't be true. He has been a captive to firebenders multiple times throughout of the show and if that's true, then we can only safely assume that they're all idiots for letting the avatar live. I think what would've happened is that the last avatar would've been from the fire nation and then it'll stop.

[@Sapantaa]

8:24 Aang had originally wanted King boomie to teach him earth bending and specifically told him to find an earth bending teaching that has mastered the (third gin?) art of listening and waiting. Certainly being friends with boomie before the war knowing how good of an earth bender he is, It could be possible he learned that from him in this alt timeline.

[@D3Kn1ght]

Firebenders who trapped Gyatso: You have no tricks left, nowhere to go! Gyatso: No, one last trick... DEEZ HANDS

[@OnycrestArkAngel121]

I’m sure Bumi would teach him, he was a pretty powerful bender

[@harshvardhan990]

Bumi was born in 12 BG (Before Genocide) so if Aang and Gyatso visits him in 20 AG (After Genocide), he would be 32 so he would be able to teach Aang Earthbending very well but he wouldn't have been able to teach him Seismic Sense.

[@chhitizmaskey2591]

They would be the same age

[@bugrakaan4596]

He could even teach him how to bend edible crystals out of Earth. Food is important if you are a runaway nomad in a war, you know.

[@robertm5110]

Buğra Kaan and Kuzon would have taught him fire bending assuming Kuzon was a fire bender.

[@downcastyt8595]

But if that happened metal bending would have never been discovered and Bumi wasn't that great of an earthbender and just play games as a child but that would've probably happen if Aang escaped with Monk Gyatso

[@GaiaDblade]

More what-if questions: What if Zuko stood up to his father in their Agni Kai? What if Iroh didn't lose his son at the Siege of Ba Sing Se?

[@ioanaaichimoaie321]

Zophah 1st question:He would still get roasted 2nd question:Iroh would be happier

[@poordolt6482]

BOSS Potter 2nd is wrong cuz when you see zuko alone iroh seems not as nice as he is during the series that event changed hi completely and i think zuko would not have been banished

[@seigeengine]

1. Zuko probably wouldn't have been banished, but it wouldn't have changed much. He'd be more loyal perhaps, but still the discard. 2. Iroh would have become the fire lord, most likely, as the lack of weakness wouldn't have motivated Ozai's attempt at persuading Azulon to have him ascend to the throne, and even if he did, Iroh would have likely contested it.

[@vilukisu]

Iroh might have even taken Ba Sing Sei eventually if he persisted. He was a master fire bender a superb strategist and military commander after all. Iroh's moral shift in relation to his son's dead was definetly an impactful factor in the history of the war and the world in general.

[@Dariusissocool]

Iroh becomes the Firelord.

[@thermonuclearexplosive]

Everybody gangsta till Iroh says leaves from the vine

[@Leaf682]

8:25 just a little comment, Toph might be one of the only earthbenders that earthbend like that, but Bumi also once mentioned "waiting and listening". Do you think Bumi could have taught Aang at the same level as Toph?

[@SoulKingBK]

nah he wasnt as wise... bro was as old as aang remember

[@AdminDestroyer1]

​@@SoulKingBKhe was as old as Aang, but while Aang spent 100 years frozen in an iceberg, Bumi had those 100 years to study earthbending. He also took back a whole city by himself.

[@shaneross739]

Well, in this timeline Bumi may took the role of Toph, so Aang may instead learn how to bend with his face, which may be a technic that can apply to other bending as well

[@tanvisood3572]

Bumi would be the same age as Aang. Difficult to assume that he possesses all the knowledge in the original series at this young age.

[@Jaylee-ye1iy]

Tanvi Sood toph was also aang’s age, 12 ,so who knows!

[@tanvisood3572]

@@Jaylee-ye1iy I suppose!

[@theendersmirk5851]

Or he and Bumi could have learned Earthbending together. Bumi could try to help him catch up and then try to get whoever taught him to help teach the rest.

[@abdulmalikdiyad2943]

🤣🤣 but toph can beat bumi any day of the week

[@aninjathtpwndu]

Normally I hate these types of videos but this was so well researched I can't help but to enjoy it. Good job, earned my sub

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Joeseph Broeseph III Star wars 100% reference?

[@aninjathtpwndu]

Yuwan no?

[@ddlcp]

I still hate it though as its just adding what if...... to any scenarios. As for answer to this video there wont be team avatar and a other lovable character and worst of all no avatar series as it would've got cancelled as I don't think beside some personally unlikable scene/scenarios everyone wouldn't want it to be any other way.

[@aninjathtpwndu]

Goldenblakcon all it literally is are alternate what if scenarios. It’s not to be meant to be taken as fact in any capability

[@ddlcp]

oh really? you don't say

[@TheLambsHeart]

An entire air bending civilization destroyed. “This won’t be a war that defines a generation”

[@TheLambsHeart]

@@WeirdoJustaweirdo I think it’s pretty hard to forget a whole elemental power being gone though. Ain’t just the people they wiped out.

[@kennethnwebb]

@@TheLambsHeart so how does one get elemental power...based on where you are born in the Avatar world?

[@faisalal-qassem3758]

@@kennethnwebb At this time, blood. If you were born to air benders it was almost certain that you would be an air bender. If you were born to fire benders you would probably be a fire bender but its not garunteed. Same goes for earth and water benders. If were born to nonbenders from the earth kingdom parents at an air temple, you would not be a bender.

[@kennethnwebb]

@@faisalal-qassem3758 so how is Katara a bender but not Sokka?

[@faisalal-qassem3758]

@@kennethnwebb Because her mother is a bender and Sokka was unlucky.

[@thelastarcadegamer6655]

King Bumi is the only other person who told Aang he doesn’t need to kill the fire lord, that was the whole purpose of his trials. “You need to think of things a different way”, and when the time comes to face Ozai, he hopes Aang would do something crazy and unexpected

[@s.o.s3014]

The moments that made me cry in Avatar where always the moments that had Iroh in it. Aka the Story of Iroh and the moment when Zuko and Iroh reconnect after he joins Aang

[@cartisthirdleg]

S.o.S omg the episode where it had the story of iroh was like soooo sad

[@morgana2568]

We never knew Zuko and that my friend it's not an option

[@kimathitalton8709]

/ Morgana facts

[@HarambreJr]

He still be born tho

[@andreasballe7470]

Not if Aang killed or jailed Azulon / Sozin.

[@SamaritanPrime]

...maybe not the Zuko WE knew, but we might still have Zuko. See, it all depends on the children Ursa and Ikem have. Kiyi would probably still exist, but Zuko and Azula would be VERY different from the Zuko and Azula we knew.

[@kevin4gwen]

Reality Rejection Service If Azulon is inprison or killed before ozi was marrying age the likelihood of ozi and Ursa marrying would be very slim (because it is only on Azulon request that he married Ursa) which means zuko wouldn't be born Ozi would either never marry or Marry someone else resulting in completely different children

[@ccc4131]

You have to remember that Gyatso didn’t want to leave Aang. That means, he wasn’t totally orthodox. Assuming that, it’s probably that he would have encourage Aang to kill the fire lord.

[@MaxArceus]

3:57 "But Gyatso goes to his room afterwards, and he says: 'Lets play Raid Shadow Legend!'"

[@BLOOJ97]

Metal bending may have never been discovered as well if aang never ran away alone

[@dubbingsync]

ArcticBluejay 97 hmm... good point

[@dansattah]

Possible, or it would have been discovered much later, establishing a metal bending police force much later as well.

[@fatemarangwala4561]

Metal bending would still have been discovered by tough or how ever you spell it because she would still be born and still have the same life and would run away getting fed up and then be captured again and discover metal bending but it might take a few more years. my theory

[@vilukisu]

Fatema Rangwala Toph being born wouldn't be guaranteed. Would her family even be the same if the war was ended a lot sooner?

[@vilukisu]

Metal bending would likely be discovered as metal became more common material in the Earth Kingdom and people realized it was just refined earth. It might take longer to develope without Toph's unique skills and style of bending, but I doubt people would stagnate with the old bending methods even if there wasn't a war that pushed for more effective forms of fighting.

[@pistachio6843]

3:58 "but gyatso goes to his room afterward and says- *add pops up* "AHHHHHHHH"

[@SlipknotPyro]

"Listen up! Steak is back at beef o bradys-"

[@matteblack2391]

That made me 🤣

[@jackwu6253]

Version can give you unlimited...

[@saikrithiks2870]

It did pop up for me too

[@jailene3107]

Although Aang and Monk Gyatso running away before the raids is likely, I find it hard to believe that Aang would stay in hiding and not come out if word about the planned Air Nomad genocide reached him.

[@plainsight_582]

Then he never would've gave Katara the Diugh, simple, nor would we blessed with Sokka's jokes

[@slizzy0]

facts

[@plainsight_582]

@@slizzy0 😂

[@fabiomcmuffin]

Nice video, I can tell you put a lot of thought into it. Aang just assumes if he hadn’t left everything would have been better, but maybe that’s not the case. I didn’t think about who would take over the fire nation without someone like zuko around

[@harshvardhan990]

Iroh is a solid contender but he held the Siege of Ba Sing Se so we can assume he believed that the War is good. He became good only when he lost Lu Ten and travelled the world around to realise how evil Fire Nation is.

[@ddlcp]

You do know that it just happened to be written that way and it would've been different if it was any other creator and as valid as any others.

[@nerdsforever4852]

to be honest its entirely possible that the fire nation just dissolves into a civil war not unlike Sengoku Jedai of Japan with numerous generals all attempting to proclaim themselves fire lord.

[@alllads2960]

Damn I wish all the air benders were still alive. They seemed so cool and it’s so sad

[@HearMeLearn]

In korra aangs kids are air benders and random citizens from around the world are gaining air bending abilities, slowly balancing itself out again

[@VNM-xg3ix]

@@HearMeLearn this does put a smile on my face.

[@9308323]

@@VNM-xg3ix If only Korra was a good show.

[@AG1_5]

@@9308323 It was so stupid of the writers to make korra lose connection with past avatars

[@kevin_aguilera9]

Technically angs kids can have kids that are air benders and so can all the other avatars kids

[@RebelBabyJoe]

Avatar: The Last Airbender is still one of my favorite shows. I like the idea of Aang and Monk Gyatso being together. He was such a great character.

[@mcrystle1228]

I feel like Bumi would have taught Aang earthbending so Aang's earthbending Bay not be as bad as predicted

[@Esandeech2]

What if Ozai named himself the Chicken King

[@schokoladenkeks989]

He would've beaten aang

[@coconoisette]

He would have become a billionaire by selling hot wings

[@Esandeech2]

Coco Noisette and they would be super good because they are from the fire nation 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🔥🔥🔥

[@coconoisette]

@@biskys6718 Sure am

[@EthanEthanEthanEthanEthan]

The pigeon king

[@parkermaisterra8532]

Honestly it's my personal belief that in the 10,000 years of Avatar that only around Aang and Korra's era was when new forms of bending were discovered. Some people probably knew blood bending, lava bending and so on but it was most likely never recorded.

[@wolves600]

well lighting was discovered far before the events and then the redirection was discovered by Iroh

[@lifescat9615]

Lavabending seemed like it was so normally to all the avatar before Ruko untill Aang disappearance, like we know Lava is Rock but in Atla it has been shown it connect to the firebenders avatars for example whem they showed the previous firebender avatar before Roku, he used lava avatar state, and on the avatar and firelord episode Roku quite lavabended on avatar state too(he also destroyed the walls of the vulcan with it so it could be the canonic version of lavabending that appeared on Korra, which is earthbending) and Kyoshi basically lavabended a bit to separate the island

[@andrewpenn1145]

Maybe they would combine forms of bending. Here are some examples: Earth + Air: Dust Bending Air + Water: Vapor Bending Water + Fire + Air: Steam Bending Maybe a character could even combine Lightning and Metal to amp up their powers. The possibilities are limitless!

[@engr.enciso]

@@lifescat9615 not to mention how the avatar of the fire nation before Roku had been shown to literally make lava come out straight from volcanoes.

[@engr.enciso]

@Zuko the rabbit yeah we dont

[@autisticdancer]

I honestly feel bad about Gyatso dying... We only see him for 2 episodes but you can see how much Aang respected and looked up to him. Gyatso was the only airbender Aang knew that didn't pressure him with the weight of the world because he was the Avatar. In Gyatso's eyes Aang was just a regular kid who needed a regular childhood. You can see the despair Aang had when he learned Gyatso was killed. Gyatso was a good role model for Aang and though we only see him in 2 episodes his death really is terrible when you think about it...

[@scottbruckner4653]

ALRIGHT. IMAGINE YOUNG IROH BEING ON TEAM AVATAR. Like Young Iroh instead of being the general who whipped ba-sing-se, Iroh was the one who taught Aang to fire bend. Sozun was Firelord and Azulan at this time was too old to be convinced otherwise but Aang could've had team Avatar be Aang, Pakku, Iroh, and Boomie. THINK ABOUT THAT ANG GET BACK TO ME.

[@sherazkiani3816]

But pakku and iroh wouldn't be born for a while after the 100 year war started

[@drippy269]

ngl i would pay good money to watch that

[@kamikazesenpai21]

Kuzon?

[@jaguanana7573]

Fake history or not, this is clearly ingenious.

[@getfnsed9808]

@Polo King For Life Ingenious is a good thing

[@roguedruid]

Not a man, but a cat... *Soviet anthem starts playing* ALL HAIL MISHKA

[@emilyscloset2648]

*supreme leader

[@jacobmcneer609]

No Gods, no kings, only *MISHKA!!*

[@natashanuzhatwahab9852]

Your attention to detail is amazing - this video is so good and well thought out! I actually don't understand how you do it but well done!

[@gokulhemanthkumar4556]

8:20 Bumi would have taught him, pretty well at that. We do not know for sure who's better at earth bending, Toph or Bumi. He probably knows that ground sensing technique.

[@agatha968]

he doesn't know the ground sensing technique, it's arguable that Bumi has more raw power than toph, and the face bending is something we never see from toph, but metal bending and sensing would probably not be discovered by someone that isn't in the same situation as Toph was when she created those techniques.

[@emanuel9063]

That old lady who was tryna show Katara blood bending would teach Aang water bending King Bumi would teach him earth and king iron would teach him fire

[@KP-cq8rk]

At the time iroh would have been still on the fire nations side of taking the earth kingdom. Iroh wasn't fully good yet

[@tyronejackal8053]

None of those people would have existed if aang never ran away

[@anthonyschroeder521]

@@tyronejackal8053 Bumi would still exist. And Bumi was the second greatest earth bender we ever see or hear about on the show (after Toph herself). Bumi in his prime would have still been an insanely powerful and good fire-bending teacher. The timeline of Iroh's redemption and the story of how it occured might mean that they could co-habit peacefully, but I do expect that Aang would have mastered fire from some other sympathizer known to exist throughout the ranks. For example Jeong Jeong, seen as a great master firebender deserted 10 years before the show started. Water would also have been mostly unaffected to be fair. He probably wouldn't have learned lightning redirection, but that's about it. Though since Roku was friends with Sozen, and Sozen shared everything with Roku at some point, it seems likely that Aang would have eventually figured out a way to deal with lightning in general.

[@guess6635]

Hama and Iroh wasn't born yet, and by the time they were Aang would of already been in his 40's

[@arsemayemane4072]

What about Jeong Jeong?

[@KrazyStargazer]

I got a "fun" theory. What if Aang woke up 100 years too late? By this I mean he woke up more around Korra's time. And 200 years after the War instead of just 100 years? I have tories as to what could have happened but I'd love your opinion

[@lamont3205]

Krazy Stargazer What would your story be about? You have a fanfiction page by any chance?

[@KrazyStargazer]

The Revanist I do but I'm not all that active...😅 I dabble on FimFic mainly because the format is good, and I have a Fan fiction account just to look up stories. I was thinking of making a video discussion on my channel with this Avatar Sennario though. Aang wakes up 100 years late 🤔 If you like the idea maybe I'll make the video. Let me know

[@maymay5600]

but there is a downside to that, korra wouldn't be the avatar and nations would still be in great war

[@chibians]

wait how did they fight the fire lord and would republic city not be there because aang was the one who made it and more importantly would korra even be alive or is the firelord or firenation still in power like a dictatorship and would there be any peace and wouldnt it be the same as the anime because if firenation took over then aang would still be late and try to end it so it would still kinda be the same plot except even 200 years later rather than 100 years later after the war

[@KrazyStargazer]

I think a good Analogy would be lets say...Captain America was defrosted 100 years later...in a world where the Natzi's won. The impact would be simular here, It would be the absolute worst case sennario to be honest and the entire series would change radically! I have some speculation on how the story would progress, but I'll keep "mumm" for the moment. It seems some people are interested in this idea...would you be interested if I made a video on the subject?

[@ibrahimtarawally3897]

I just realised no one really seems to ask or care about Aang's parents 🤔

[@ngndnd]

i dont think the parents are allowed to keep the children

[@elliefischer9078]

that’s because air nomads were meant to detach from the world to achieve spiritual enlightenment, so an attachment like parents would hold them back. also if the genocide never happened aang would most likely have become a monk because a wife and kids would hold him back from spiritual enlightenment. he wouldn’t have needed to reproduce because there were already lots of airbenders

[@RusyaidiDzulkifli]

Air nomads were never responsible parents after all, they are like hippies, once they give birth, they'll leave their child to one of the temples and continue to wander the world...heck, even avatar Kyoshi's parents (airbending mother and earthbending father) dumped her so that that they could continue their lifestyle as criminals.

[@Xaforn]

Isn’t it possible also that Aang and other air nomads could’ve been orphans from the earth kingdom?

[@RusyaidiDzulkifli]

@@Xaforn would regular orphans from earth kingdom capable of airbending? Doubt it..

[@SilverScarletSpider]

If Aang never ran away, then he would have died and failed in his ultimate mission. Azula alone was strong enough to 1v1 and kill avatar state Aang multiple times with her Lightning bending. An often untalked about factor is that Katara is actually by far one of the strongest Water benders in the entire planet; truly a very valuable ally. Remember that without Toph and Zuko’s unique expertise and history, Aang also would have never mastered/understood Earth and Fire training.

[@reddytoplay9188]

Azula did that cause she saw Aang and immediately attacked him with her quick reflexes. Also he had Buumi and the dragons so he would have been more powerful with Mind Bending the elements and a deeper understanding of fire. There is also the fact that Aang never truly mastered Air bending when compared to his father figure. Lightning benders could have existed as well and Aang could find one if he was lucky.

[@annadiener8442]

Another what if idea: What if Zuko has joined the Gaang at the end of Book two?

[@sam-bd8ck]

I just realized, if Zuko had joined at the end of book 2, they would’ve defeated Azula and Uncle Iroh would most likely be part of the Gaang...... WHICH MEANS MORE SCREEN TIME FOR IROH (oh, and zuko....)

[@angie7735]

It would be too simple and wouldn’t have the same redemption arc feeling as we do now. Zuko wouldn’t have faced his father and wouldn’t be necessary for him to make up his mistakes to the Gaang

[@tillycomedy2194]

zuko needed to go through the confrontation with his father and moral introspection first before joining the gaang

[@The-Showdown]

fights we've always wanted to see: ozai v iroh bumi v toph [i know who won this match but wont spoil] aang v korra

[@ethanfoster2336]

iroh , top, and angg would win

[@dom8759]

Ozai because iroh lost his desire to fight people, but if he was forced to fight ozai, iroh would’ve bodied ozai Then toph since of her seismic bending or whatever it’s called, and bumi is kinda old (they did fight in the books but they where stopped rip) Aang would’ve bodied Korra, korra is to confident

[@PiperStJohn]

@@dom8759 nah Aang would've been like, I could never fight one of my future lives and Korra would straight up drop kick him with no regrets.

[@mrzsanaghazan]

Ozai ould definitely beat Iroh, toph would 100% beat bumi even in his young prime time years, and aang would've ENDED korra.

[@The-Showdown]

@@mrzsanaghazan EZ yea bumi wouldve prob lost as a kid but old toph vs old bumi...it tehy would tie frfr..bumi is the mad genius

[@rosalycrisp3068]

Why is nobody talking about the fact that if Aang had killed Sozin or even Azulon before they had kids then Zuko would never have been born 😭

[@user-zs5tp9zi6n]

And that would've been awful

[@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820]

Millions of lives saved, or Zuko being born, hm... ATLA fanbase: Give us Zuzu!!!

[@AndreaRupanSansei]

Wow so interesting! Beautiful theory/analysis

[@vicenteortegarubilar9418]

In that case we wouldn't have team avatar, nooooo thank you, still well made video. Favourite civilizations Aztecs and Chinese.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

Vicente Ortega Rubilar But we could have if Anng had a good replacement and the war was still going.

[@KingRumar]

Vicente Ortega Rubilar Bumi would be his Earth mentor and he wouldve created Team Avatar

[@animeweeb5825]

lol the aztecs got taken down in 3 years xD

[@Eruptor1000]

lol

[@garangmalith8974]

Vicente Ortega Rubilar

[@valeriabarojasp]

Aang's eyes go from grey to blue in 9:01

[@cabbageman2184]

Valeria B Peralta lol

[@najsbajsmedmajs]

His eyes are always grey and change colors with the ambient lighting. Sometimes they appear blue, and sometimes they appear brown

[@coconoisette]

@@najsbajsmedmajs Yeah but here they changed color with his expression !

[@senza4591]

I like how his accent makes him replace certain vowels with "I". "Riddy" "Sicond" "Dith" You get the point.

[@jackspaggato5825]

I actually wrote my own fanfiction on "What if Aang never ran away". In my version, Aang died in the after-state, ending the avatar cycle and causing Sozin to die in peace allowing the remaining Airbenders to flee to the Earth Kingdom without being hunted down. After Sozins death a young Azulan declared war on the Earth Kingdom (Azulan in this timeline was never preoccupied with the hunting of the avatar so during his younger years as the Firelord he became very reckless and hostile towards other nations). Long story short the fire nation took control of the bottom half of the Earth Kingdom with Iroh being killed in the war by a Young General Bumi (Azulan didn't spend his life looking for the avatar meaning he had kids, and declared war far earlier than in the actual timeline causing Bumi to be young and members of team avatar not even being born yet). When Azulan died and Ozai took over Ursa never ran away because Ozai never insulted Irohs child as he died before he could have him. Also when Ozai had his first child Zuko he was named Iroh after his brother who died in the war. Later on in the war, Zuko or Iroh was drafted and later taken prisoner by the Earth Kingdom after finding out he was the Firelords son. Zuko later revealed that he wasn't proud of what his Nation was doing and helped end the war by giving the Earth Kingdom the location of the safehouse Ozai and Azula were being kept in. The two were killed and after their deaths, the Earth Kingdom celebrated their victory with Zuko becoming the new Firelord just like in the original timeline. Zuko in this timeline is much nicer as he had a mother figure and was never banished and given his iconic scar.

[@jamesmays9814]

An alternate reality series about Aang and Gyatso would be interesting to watch.

[@MrGksarathy]

I honestly think Aang would have trained with Bumi in Earthbending, and considering that the man was a supergenius, he might have been able to help Aang come up with something great.

[@joecatterwell4299]

What I'm interested in is whether or not the air benders get a special power up move. Fire benders have lightning, water benders have blood bending and earth benders have metal bending but throughout the series there is no mention of any special air bending techniques

[@user-zs5tp9zi6n]

True. Good question

[@hamilton_lamstrash2879]

As cool as these alternate universes are, I love the original and wouldn't have it any other way. 💙

[@user-zs5tp9zi6n]

The only thing I would change from the original it's Kataang

[@danielbucher472]

I have a question for you. One that has haunted me for over TEN YEARS! How in the world would Fire Lord Sozin know that the avatar "eluded [him]" and that the fire nation hadn't killed the avatar in the genocide? How did he know that the avatar hadn't been reborn into the water tribe?

[@Dariusissocool]

Daniel Bucher The lights at the shrines in every nation. There are “monks” in every tribe tasked with protecting the avatar. Remember when Aang used Roku’s power and the temples lit up all over the world signaling the return of the avatar. It’s likely that happens at the birth of an Avatar too and since there was no record of it for 100 years the last one must have still been alive somehow.

[@danielbucher472]

Lorde Darius, that makes sense. Thanks.

[@guess6635]

Daniel Bucher also during the genocide considering Sozin was there as well he'd know about the Avatar state through Roku and knows that an Avatar can activate it due to stress and fear and what happened at those temples would have surely activated that form and since known of the Airbender did it when the chances of them doung it were extremely high must have let him know that the Avatar must of not been there cause surly if he was they would have burned the kid who's eyes were glowing the most

[@maddhatter222]

I think the bigger question is why he felt it was necessary to kill ALL of the Air Nomads. They would know that the Avatar would have to have been roughly Aang's age, so all Air Nomads older and younger than that definitely couldn't be the Avatar.

[@PhoenixFires]

@swamidude Y'know, there's a lot of BIG assumptions people make to "justify" genocide. If you're monstrous enough to consider genocide as a valid option, you'll think anything is justified.

[@resultofboredomowo950]

Dude puts some serious effort into these videos damn

[@russandrewsobrepena9882]

Me at 1pm : Aight imma head to bed. KZbin: Yeah cool but what if Aang didn't run away? Me: I need answers.

[@BRouge]

So Aang and Gyatso are like Jedi running from the Empire ?

[@creativename8275]

I am new to this channel. I am not sure what I was expecting, but... "Not a man, my dear botanical nuisance, BUT A CAT!" Subscribed.

[@atorro1313]

your awesome, and i really enjoy your videos

[@thedirty530]

This was awesome given the info that was used in the show... These feel completely accurate with what we know. There is something fascinating about misfortune that leads to a more rewarding or genuine path!

[@tavaresbutler44]

Knowing that the air nomads were some of the closest to the spirit world the 5 or so additional months Aang would have had the training he would need to possibly win. Aang would have been a master air bender since he has his tattoos already and substantially more control of the Avatar state.

[@julianjjz987]

I'll rewatch the series now. Thx

[@atharvplayz1389]

I have learned how to make theories from you thx for helping me learn how to make theories

[@enriqueroberto8537]

And Gyatso went to Aangs room and said “LETS PLAY RAGE SHADOW LEGENDS”

[@lanaa.1]

same

[@theberrby6836]

Wow You brought up things I've never thought of! Awesome thought process! hehe

[@ddlcp]

Not really. If you just add what if to any scenarios such point'll come to you sooner or later as its nothing special.

[@marandasmith-emeny3227]

Goldenblakcon r s

[@cld5]

Goldenblakcon always a hater somewhere lurking

[@ddlcp]

Its just my way of showing some tough love

[@ddlcp]

@Polo King For Life wow, its been 8 months

[@jaysus4316]

All hail Comrade Mishka

[@flooferderp2918]

Great. Now I want a fan comic series exploring in detail this alt timeline. That'd be so cool.

[@evaunit2553]

4:00 I got a Biktarvi ad that lined up with this perfectly.

[@jigsawking5]

Would you do a video about the possible political future of the Earth Kingdom post Korra? Regarding the chances of Wu's idea of allowing it to break up into individual states being a success and the potential consequences of it i.e. another Kuvira or Chin the Great situation? Also you raise an interesting point about the Dai Li at the end of the video. I have often wondered about exactly when they become to dominant/corrupt in Ba Sing Se. Was it near immediately after Kyoshi forced the crown to establish it and introduce reform curbing the monarchs personal power or was the 100 years war the crucial factor?

[@HelloFutureMe]

That's actually a really great question! ~ Tim

[@jigsawking5]

Thank you. Really love your work and especially how onto the Avatar universe you are :)

[@lawrencemiller7442]

Earth King Kuie the 52nd Earth King of Ba Sing Se took the throne at a very young age. Leaving the Da Li largely free to take control. This is to the best of my knowledge.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Well they seem to have already have had a certain level of autonomy throughout their history (Omashu had it's own King for example even though it could be argued he was subservient to the Earth King to an extent) so I don't expect a gigantic amount of issue with the general idea. There's of course the issue of boundaries but I can't say if it would end in war or not. There would be people advocating for reunification but I don't think there's really going to be support for it from the majority of the population considering recent events.

[@ddlcp]

How about you think it up yourself as yours would be as valid as his no matter how convoluted it may be.

[@stonetop]

6:32 Why did you do that to your viewers?

[@moonmango8356]

stonetop when he plays it I always cry

[@kiara9471]

Zuko: your the Avatar, your just a child Aang: well, your just a teenager Me: OHHHHHHHHH! GET ROASTED!!!!!!!

[@justanotherenthusiast1550]

4:01 right after he says “he says” I got a raid shadow legends ad