What If An Alternate Versailles Led to WW2 in 1920?

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[@stephenquinn3447]

I like to think Britain is still a monarchy, George V just got so angry that he became a communist

[@MajinTurles-ng2gy]

So like Grenada, Grenada was Socialist but retained The British Monarchy

[@Makarosc]

Monarcho-socialism

[@zygoatindustries]

Baced

[@thenamesianna]

Comrade George

[@nnhoffingg]

Yes!

[@bukanIqbal375]

Average HOI4 Non historical gameplay :

[@Judgy_bro]

Lmaoooo

[@batamoppo4998]

Lol

[@Krox_JUK]

And even more so on drugs

[@o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60]

if the AI had taken a kilogram of cocaine beforehand.

[@MorkiMoo]

Real and true

[@rippedlincoln]

I did this all for Syria Did I get Syria? No Was it worth it? Yes

[@rewriting-history]

100% worth it, we made the best possible lore on accident

[@Aq_3]

totaly xd@@rewriting-history

[@Ihatebritain]

Absolutely Based

[@Nn91.]

Breaking News: American man turns the Third French Republic communist after disastrous peace treaty in Versailles. “HE WOULDNT GIVE ME MY SYRIA!!!”

[@abewright1713]

Lol

[@Makarosc]

Mom can we have Kaiserreich? Mom: we have Kaiserreich at home Kaiserreich at home:

[@anvos658]

Honestly this is closer to an Eagle/Libertyreich where the USA becomes dominant Superpower in WWI.

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

@@anvos658 Hes reffering to Britain anf France becoming communist. In the first video they even used the totalist (Kaiserreich Stalinist) Britain and Syndie French flags

[@exospheriaUSA]

Doppelreich

[@josephknott6174]

This peace treaty was going so well until the whole Austria Hungary / Arabia disagreement. I think in future all sides should have to agree to the treaty as a whole at the end in order for it to pass, as long as no-one lacks the ability to compromise it should lead to better peace deals

[@Kyotzin]

peace deal? holy mother fucking shit is that a motherfucking hoi4 reference???? hoi4 is the best game ever!!!!!!

[@possiblehistory]

Absolutely agree, this was meant to be the "realistic" attempt. It got off the rails at the end. Next time I will (again) attempt to keep it realistic. My idea is to have me not actually participate, but only lead the conversation - acting as the arbiter. X amount of other KZbinrs will do the actual negotiating amongst themselves. Maybe a point system with goals could help, so there is actually a victor at the end...

[@stupiditiusmaximus]

​@@KyotzinJojo reference spotted. **Everything is a JoJo reference**

[@thanatosexcelsior3711]

@@possiblehistory Next time you should invite random viewers to act as the minor parties in the peace treaty, maybe giving them 0.5 or 0.25 of a vote to balance it out or something similar

[@josephknott6174]

Just like to say though as that did sound a bit negative that I still really enjoyed and appreciated the content!

[@utubrGaming]

Let me guess, the Royalists in Britain fled to Canada, where they await Reclamation, while the French Republic evacuates and establishes themselves in Algeria...

[@rewriting-history]

Imagine doing so much for the Arabs, starting a massive European war, and they don't even join on your side to show support.

[@bukanIqbal375]

Very worth it ik

[@wikiacount8697]

They would be in a civil war, arabia post ww1 has many states they need to be pacified first.

[@ale-xsantos1078]

At least you prevent 9/11(?)

[@anvos658]

To be fair their in the same boat as this Austria/Danube Federation of can't do jack squat.

[@Yanxve]

@@ale-xsantos1078 Yes, yes it does.

[@user-qq6mp9bp2q]

Bulgarian Yugoslavia seems to pop up surprisingly often

[@Ta-m01]

cuz its good

[@gengarzilla1685]

It's almost like there's an ethnical reason for them to be stuffed into Yugoslavia.

[@luki7614]

yeah ethnicly slavic​@@gengarzilla1685

[@borisminchev9224]

​@@Ta-m01 Bulgarian yugoslavia is like putting a cat and a dog in a box and kicking it

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

With oil becoming increasingly important and the fact that the Arabian state is thankful for the US support it would support the US demand for oil supply very cheaply (so no opec in the future) and if the Saudi would push out the British off Arabia the British wouldn't be able to stop its oil supply because these oil pumps would jeopardise the US supply and the US would try to 'mediate' meaning the Arabia state would be able to push off the British colonies and nothing would happen...

[@andrewryan4417]

Funny enough, this sounds like the game lore of an RTS game where instead of Britain, America intervenes in the Middle East to push out the Germans after the puppet Sultan was caught making deals with other powers. Iron Harvest if you've heard of it.

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

@@andrewryan4417 Iron Harvest is a gem.

[@InfernosReaper]

In this scenario, the Saudis wouldn't have the power base needed to be a major player, unlike in our timeline, because the Lawrence of Arabia agreement would actually be enforced.

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

@@InfernosReaper The Saudi's would never come to power, the Hejaz would stay in control a moderate faction with more ties to the west and more likely to ally with the Allies for IF WWII might happen and in times of the Cold war.

[@Great_Olaf5]

I call India taking the opportunity for independence as well, and I don't see Britain being able to take it back after the war as easily as they could their Arabian colonies.

[@anvos658]

Well yes its highly likely an end result of the communist uprisings is the USA forcing a lot of decolonialization.

[@peterwainio2134]

I would like to recommend a concept for a new series you could do. The idea is that you take the place of a historical leader, and you choose what decisions to make as that historical leader based on what would be the most beneficial for the nation the historical leader you chose ruled over. The way you would go about doing this is you would base your decisions off of the knowledge you had at your disposal at the time. For example, you could do a video where you take the place of Louis XIV and you choose how you would expand the size, influence and power of France in the 17th and 18th centuries. Or you could take the place of Louis XV and decide how you could preserve the French empire in America and India. Perhaps you could even take the place of Louis XVI and decide how you could prevent the french revolution if you were in his position. A criticism you could levy at this idea is that it’s too similar to the series you’re already doing on “What if everything went perfectly for X”, but I disagree. Firstly, this series is about making decisions as a single person, not for an entire nation over the course of hundreds of years. Secondly, with your “What if everything went perfectly for X” series, you utilize the benefit of hindsight. With this series, you limit yourself to the knowledge of your chosen leader. You Don’t HAVE to do it this way, you could utilize the benefit of hindsight for this series too, but limiting yourself this way would help differentiate this series from your “What if everything went perfectly for X” series. You might as well try this idea on for a video and see how it performs. If it performs badly, you don’t have to continue it. But if it performs well, you could have another successful series on your hands. It is low risk, high reward. With how many historical leaders there are, the possibilities for this series are limitless! Some ideas for historical leaders to make videos on are Seleucus, Justinian, Louis the Pious, John I, Charles V, Phillip II of Spain, Charles XII, Peter III, Napoleon, Charles X, Napoleon III, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and so many more!

[@jokiejook8659]

Honestly, I would probably like this type of video.

[@darrylbonner7208]

For once PH's views didn't destroy Europe, it was him and the boys.

[@saltyamalgamate]

Can you please do a "What if the cold war was switched up?" video? AKA what if the USA had a communist revolution during the great depression and what if the Russian state won the civil war.

[@someonestupid6385]

depends on what government gets to power in russia if the tsarists regime its already over for russia nicolas was very against industrialization and educating his population because he thought it would cause rebelions and im sure he would clamp down on it even more kicking russia back into the dark age or the russian democratic state get to power and with that its also already over as without any forced mass industrialization like during stalin there is just no way for russia to actually compete with the usa

[@saltyamalgamate]

@@someonestupid6385 It's important to also consider that communism worked so well for Russia because of where it was at industrially at the time. A communist USA would see even more political isolation and economic stagnation due to how entrenched the capitalism was back then while Russia, whichever direction it went, would see slower economic growth but also wary cooperation with the UK and France against the rising Germany. I would love to see this because the scenario seems to be a politically isolated behemoth of a US vs a huge but worn down and fragile coalition of Democracies and Monarchies.

[@bumblebee.146]

​@@someonestupid6385 russia was industrialising fast under the last 2 tzars.

[@FedericoGrimaudo]

Cool idea

[@BartoszLimanowski]

Very good idea

[@Poltergeist3651]

In the peace deals someone should represent the smaller nation, even if they dont have a vote they might still be able to inflence by simply anoying the others till they give in

[@snertmoskalyam]

Like Romania just got scammed and didn't receive anything

[@liladoodle]

This video is just the feeling of 'How it feels to play Kaiserreich/Kaiserredux for the first time'.

[@22LongRifle]

Can you make a "What if EVERYTHING went perfect for Japan"?

[@CheckmateSurvivor]

I would prefer a scenario without globalists.

[@dawoifee]

Didn't it in our Timeline?

[@abuhajar4222]

Hell on Earth for the Indo-Pacific

[@YahirDejesusflores-vz6gp]

Sourthen vyctory alternative turtledove saludos desde México

[@buzter8135]

@@CheckmateSurvivor Was the East-asian Co-prosperity sphere a globalist project? Wasn't it just an influence network of the Japanese Empire?

[@EldestBrick]

Both scenarios are good but I definetly think the Communists loosing makes more sence.

[@rippedlincoln]

As an objective and neutral observer, I disagree

[@EldestBrick]

@@rippedlincoln The only resong I think the communists loosing makes more sence is because the British and French wouldn't have been able to switch to communisms so easily.

[@sonderment]

@@EldestBrickdefinitely

[@randomguy6152]

​@@EldestBrickFrance could have France almost voted in a communist party irl Britain on the other hand wouldn't have been a easy change

[@stageblood9935]

communism in france isnt that far fetched.@@EldestBrick

[@vaultboy1469]

Most historical HOI4 peace deal:

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Part 2 awesome! Love all the collabs!

[@Vexillogically]

Achievement Unlocked: How did we get here?

[@nitalova8819]

but...what happens to german samoa? D:

[@requiem6465]

Least chaotic HOI4 alt history mod

[@konnosx1213]

unironically, Red Flood is WAY more insane

[@tannersplace321]

A what if scenario I’d like to see is what if Japan purchased Alaska? I just think it’d be interesting to see the scenario because Alaska has a lot of resources the Japanese Empire needed and went to war over.

[@affdafwfwa]

What if you guys do the peace treaties for these ones too LMAO

[@shavayconnell1437]

Can you make a video what if everything went perfect for Britain

[@barsukascool]

What if EVERYTHING went PERFECT for Lithuania?

[@P0PG03S]

Y e s.

[@snertmoskalyam]

1.didn't lose Wilno to poles 2.anyway be conquered by soviets and germans

[@thesovietsarecoming]

Ngl this would sound like the BEST alternate history hoi4 scenario out there. Imagine being able to play as france and hold off 3 major powers and a civil war. Or you could be a minor, such as Bulgaria, and have fun watching the world explode.

[@matthewhill8144]

Please expand upon this idea, it's really really interesting.

[@zooman_expeditions8984]

Great video Possible History! I loved the other video and this was amazing!

[@ChariTheAlternate]

This is / was amazing!!!

[@carlose4314]

I could see the Danubian Federation in the second scenario transition into a more EU-like alliance.

[@Twiggydyls]

Wow some more Kaiseriech lore😁

[@moredac2881]

Video idea: “what if the US joined the League of Nations?” Is there any feasible scenario in which WWII could be a avoided or changed significantly?

[@scouttrooper3123]

Question. Do you use custom maps or are these map available somewhere for public use/viewing? Also, what program/asset do you use to edit the maps?

[@sutrajaiz]

Sick video so far. Would love to see a continuation of some of the older collabs too.

[@davimendesboni8777]

Average kaiserreich gameplay

[@Gabeslicor]

I've been waiting for this for months!!

[@GL1TCH.LOVES.MAPPING]

I love watching PH

[@revantobias8567]

But does italy build any more canals?

[@thatguyoverthere225]

(2nd scenario) Even though it's the most likely option, the idea of the US fighting for the king of England specifically, and not the English as a whole, is insane. I could see America just copy-paste our government system onto the UK and France afterward. It wouldn't last more than a few years in England before another monarchy would be created (English tradition and blah blah), but I can see it lasting to present day in France and the rest of the UK.

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

I have been waiting for this video

[@Lifi210]

What app did you use for editing the map and where did you find the map?

[@shavayconnell1437]

Can you make what if everything went perfect for Britain

[@bukanIqbal375]

Stop spamming😭😭

[@ruin8891]

All of humanity would have bad teeth

[@danever159]

i recomend what if everything went perfect for uk/france/italy and if spain stayed at #1 most powerful country for longer.

[@user-vr7vv8gm3w]

Yes amen

[@haloreacondeltareach2738]

Hey I have a question. What is the application you use to edit these maps and what do you use to get maps that you edit

[@Stormgamer-xb7gv]

Merry Christmas Everyone! 🎄🎁 🎅

[@migclar-sy5vz]

the new remaster looking fire, maybe I'll go play the original and dlcs.

[@ammazer1229]

The second timeline is by far the more likely one. America would never just let France & especially Britain become communist.

[@wires-sl7gs]

Same with the Middle Classes in France and Britain, Strong Middle Classes being the reason Communist only Emerges in Semi-Industrialized/Non-Industrialized Nations or through conquest

[@cosmo1851]

I think it's somewhat unlikely. If only because I don't see a reason as to why France, and Britain, would suddenly declare war on THE USA, of all places, while also in the middle of a civil war.

[@casssaph2287]

the de-facto freedom of movement between the federation, serbo-bulgaria, romania, and poland, as well as de-facto freedom of trade (due to overlapping federal law as well as treaties between federal crowns) seems very interesting to me... could be the foundation of an eastern european union :o other nations would likely end up joining as well, due to their struggling economies (looking at france and the uk... probably everyone in europe as well, honestly.) i wonder who would end up being the greatest economic power and who would end up "leading"?

[@KiraiKatsuji]

probably the biggest population

[@dogsittinggay7273]

Could you do a video about what if everything went perfect for the Ottoman Empire after the siege of Vienna fails

[@user-rp5ir1wi9f]

Please do something like this again but as a live stream

[@andreasvargamadsen3127]

I don't think there is a so big romanian population in transylvania. The North side of the region was inhabited by a group of people cold "szèkelys" who was really stubborn and aggressive. I don't think they would likely accept that they have stronger bonds to a nation, who's people came to transylvania a lot after them, even if they came in large numbers.

[@chococ_]

honestly im surprised the unification of Bulgaria and Serbia even happened, i expected a civil war to break out almost immediately

[@user-bo6ru6rk3d]

wow, this video just shows how 5 people can competently reorganise Europe without any consequences!!1!11

[@filberttheodorus3040]

I think, with the conclusion of the scenario in this video, the Asia region will become more interesting, especially for the British and French colonies in South and Southeast Asia. as in our timeline, most of colonies break off from their colonial overlord, due their overlord cannot sustain the heavy damage of the war fought before. and with this timeline, I think there's possibility that either Indochina will free on their own state (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos) that eventually influence by either Thai, or the Japanese. British colonies will become more interesting, especially with the Raj and Malaya, that can break up or just release by the British from their colonial status as independent state, and have possibility to become more united and cohesive nation rather than break up into multiple nation determine by ethnic line, and will form the commonwealth organization/association that are similar with the one that we have in this modern world. I think you should go have more discussion of the region of south east and south Asia as they are interesting and impactful to the world history as well and the East and West Asia region. Love your video tho.

[@ale-xsantos1078]

I prefer the first scenario, not because it would be a better world(it would not) but because if we go with "well a revolution wouldnt have succeeded in France and Britain" then we would have to discard the rest of the premise since logically it wouldnt have been accepted So if we take that the agreements made in the previous video stick, including the revolutions, I think the 1° is the logical outcome as the US was already too war weary and it had just fought Germany, so fighting both Britain & France after that as well as Russia feels like it'd be too much for the public to tolerate

[@Chorusier]

I still find it funny how this just became Kaiserreich when though it was originally about Versailles.

[@minestar2247]

Any timeline with the West turning communist during the inter war ends up like kaiserreich

[@propernoun1583]

What happened to your perfect axis video plan?

[@kiravatheargonian]

That first Scenario is just like a solid fourth of my ATLs 😂

[@NewDealChief]

Average first time Kaiserreich/redux gameplay:

[@babaganoosh138]

Scenario Idea: what if history went perfect for the Qing Dynasty

[@Das-ist-k-ein-VIRUS]

Super video

[@pirukiddingme1908]

Honestly I think the civil wars in france and Britain would be quite a bit more drawn out, there would definitely be ways to form a coalition supporting a revolution at least in Britain, considering places like south wales and east London were electing radical leftists even in 1945. You could even say that most of the mining towns and industrial cities would be more favourable to revolution if ww1 didn’t go as it did in our tl

[@CARL_093]

good job bros

[@tommasocoronese9988]

Would love to have friend to do this kind of alt history map😂

[@Jarzatontheman]

Communist ending:a United soviet world Revolution put down ending:capitalism Conclusion they both end up in more war from religion and language

[@VirgoShelter]

If I understand this correctly, you got American not wanting war by having Britain surprise attack their ships to cripple the USN in one go? We saw with another island based nation that that leads to the opposite results

[@floor737]

This video might be awesome, but do you know what else would be awesome? A "what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario" (Please make a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Norway was not even an independent country untill 19th century so you would have to start this with it being during the medieval ages when the Norway was still a major power

[@ruin8891]

I would rather want to see Sweden

[@TheEpikalREKT]

norWAY!

[@sebe2255]

So basically what if Norway won the Battle of Stamford bridge

[@bradleydelay]

A couple small caviats: - Communist EU politics would in all likelihood be very chaotic. A sociaoist france would already be a strange beast with the conflict in power between the party and the CGT, and Britain entering would also bring ideas of Keynsianism. On top of that, adding in other forces like the KPD and all of their factions, the CPI and all of their factions, including mussolini, and all of the different communist and national communist movements across former Hapsburg territory. European politics would be at a crossroads between coping with and ending factionalism, which would firmly decide whether this new state would be a more federalist one or a twin to the Soviets. Theres also the issue of the economic model, as you cant just assume theyll follow the Soviet planning model, as Europe is far more industrialized than the USSR, especially by the 1920s. Even if European politics would vecome a one party anti-factionalist Bolshevik style state, theur economics would undoubtedly be different, likely with more emphasis on labor unions (subservient to the state or not) being the backbone of the industrial economy. - Secondly, I don't entitely understand why the USSR would not have intervened in the european war. Britain and France declaring revolution ends up validating internationalist thought, which would entail more effort on the part of the USSR to intervene. How would the ensuing peace work if the USSR entered the picture?

[@singam7436]

We should also note that since Marxism at this point of time tended towards anti-imperialism, we could possibly see at least an accelerated decolonisation, with the former colonies possibly becoming Communist puppet states (even if the cause of the revolution was that France and Britain didn't get mandates)

[@singam7436]

Or, perhaps to make this lore even more cursed, India becomes integral British territory in the same way Algeria is with France

[@BamBamAbraham]

Nice

[@Sutton-vp3bf]

Do a peace conference based on if the entente negotiated a fair treaty after Russia fell

[@SteelRyan]

Isn't it hilarious that it is the US f-ing around in the middle east all over again causing this! XD

[@PeterChadwell-bz5xn]

I liked this scenario

[@thomwg7452]

The only WW2 scenario where Italy is not the sore underbelly of Europe.

[@Xilir2009]

I find the anti communist win scenario almost perfectly ballaces and managed. Germany ist humiliated and still keeps a moderatly large militery and is set up for majore economic boom once the shadow of ww1 fades. The habsburg empire is almost perfect with how its set up. They can crush every single enemy of them isolated and if they ream up. The twin german nation kann help. Italy isn't humiliated and with all the majore new territory like tunisia and dalmatia is set up to survive the economic collapse and most likely doesn't fall to fascists. The twin german nations can curb soviet expansion and beat tgem back. The revolution in the entante has bean crushed and even if they fall to revanschist regimes like always the twin german nations can stop them. I feal like in this new world that the twin germans will almost be like the police of europe and keep order in it.

[@Icantstop850]

I WAS JUST WATCHING IT 🤯

[@kristoffervalen2935]

Chiang Kai Shek was actually friendly with the Soviets until Stalin for some reason until Mao's long march since the KMT was accepting German arms while fighting the Imperial army of Japan.

[@propernoun1583]

Here’s an idea: completely Balkanized Europe over ethnic lines.

[@heavymetal3264]

What would WWII look like?

[@stargazer-elite]

5:38 Switzerland wheat from 😎🍿🥤 to 😳😨😤

[@MominEnjoyer]

Europe: *becomes communist* Switzerland: "And this is where I make my stand! In the mighty eyes of the lord I shall show no fear! I will not abandon my post!"

[@mininoble2253]

The Maimed fighting the blind in 1920.

[@DavidEspinoza-gy6fx]

This should really be a HOI4 mod.

[@TELOSgamer]

# 5:20 you forgot Italy's border on (Istria I think)

[@Julianist]

Omg finally ❤

[@Spaceplayzsfs]

One thousandth like!Wow!I never get that opportunity!

[@Lamberto2024]

What my mom thinks will happen after I miss 1 day of school:

[@pjolex5896]

Look at kaiserreich mod for hoi4

[@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508]

The second one by a mile, I think - with pilsucki as the most influential person in poland - he would push for uniting poland with galicia, I could also see polish and western relations sour a lot beacuse poland was promised an independent state with sea Access which they didn't get

[@finnmuller9079]

I think maybe the Habsburgs would "sell" Galicia for support against the Nationalists revolutions and maybe some trade stuff. Maybe only northern Galicia where German majority regions are rare. The rest could then join up with the Slovakians. Also I don't think the Czechs would get their own crown, but rather be Germanised over the next few decades.

[@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508]

@@finnmuller9079 the entire region of Galica (exept lyiv) had huge ukrainian minorotiy, Poland had historic ties with the region and without Independent ukrainian state the region would be given to Poland instead of slovakia in this scenatio beacuse I highly doubt slovakians would want to have do many ukrainians, Poland had already many ukrainians who - exept a few crashes irl - very much liked being in Poland and we - in contrast to popular believe - were treating them like poles, czechs I highly doupt would get completly germanized, it isn't easy to assimilate completly different culture and language, I could easily see Czech nationality survive another couple hungred years

[@finnmuller9079]

@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 well I agree. It is fiction in the end and I just created my own Austria-Hungary ending. If I were the Austrian Government I'd disperse the Czechs in the empire and mostly resettle those lands with ethnic germans and minorities in the empire (greatly dispersed ofc) so they would have to convert their culture (yes this is ethnic "cleansing" and yes this is a crime against Humanity but this is fiction and I'm the evil guy around.) The Ukrainian and polish population in Galicia isn't really interesting to AH as it only caused unrest (unrealistic I know, but I like my big bad evil AH). The Empire would hang onto the entire Karparts tho as they are a great natural border. Maybe a population exchange with Polands germanised people and settlers in Posen would happen. I would also see ethnic cleansing in Majority Romanian lands and or trying to create a separate transylvanian Identity in "southern Transylvania" (I know this ain't a real thing, but think of the hoi4 province). That is my AH ending.

[@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508]

@@finnmuller9079 that was the biggest problem for Austria hungary, if they only tried to clear out one minority every other would start revolting, that's why they didn't do it

[@finnmuller9079]

@gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 I know, I know. But as this happens in a time after AH basically was dead and now is revived I see those regions under heavy military occupation. Maybe the "cleansing" is even Supported by the north germans and Poles (who would gain most of Galicia). I also see this AH, North Germany and Poland in a close relationship as they were the ones defeating the communists in this timeline while also partially fighting for the same side in WW1. Italy on the other hand took lands of AH so I wouldn't see them as as close.

[@natescoolplace]

Finally scenario where Austria-Hungary is involved

[@user-qd7cc4wd9g]

Can you do “What if everything went perfect for Romania”?

[@Tovalokodonc]

It already did in our timeline. You joined, did absolutely nothing, lost, yet still gained more than 100% your territory

[@Strqwberriez_]

W video (love ur videos)

[@solelak]

Hey, at least austrian painter doesn't get the wrong idea and make the world go back to shit for 6 years, so better than versailles anyway.

[@ooi97]

Soon: *Kingdom of the two Polands*

[@AyroTysk]

The french guy should get racket to the downside of a 1700s imperial boat.

[@MGamerYTBoyMemer]

Average aoc2 player's scenario be like:

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

What if the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania had a PU with Moskovy instead of Poland. Creating the Russo-Lithuanian commonwealth/Empire instead of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.

[@dragon-ksp]

please do if everything went perfect for poland (the 2nd RP)

[@alcrisjohnesquierdo7728]

You should put alot of effort and another perspective that is the to become a alternative predictor