WHAT IF BARDOCK CONVINCED THE SAIYANS? - 4 - Dragon Ball Discussion

[@MasakoX]

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[@hipzilla702]

Excellent! Been waiting for this one to come back.

[@RubyCricket]

Is there more History of Ranch coming soon

[@rizzyneutron209]

When does R&R episode 4 come out

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

In the next part you should give us an estimate of the saiyan population after these 20 years so we know if they realistically have a chance against frieza's millions of soldiers also I don't see the poll

[@rizzyneutron209]

Im a real big fan i really loved What if raditz turned good

[@markmorales7958]

“The Scouter was ON the ENTIRE TIME....” Again..... GODDAMN IT NAPPA!!!!!!!!!

[@Lightspeeds]

Eyyyy.

[@Zach-nu7gs]

This joke is brought to you by Team 3 star

[@stephano1019]

@@Zach-nu7gs Vegeta: That's not funny! IT'S NEVER FUNNY!, IT'S NEVER WILL BE FUNNY!! Put on these clothes, imma nap.

[@supershenron9162]

Poor nappa. I'd laugh so hard if we found out later that he's a brilliant scientist xD you know... like bardock lololololol

[@Brando216]

Dont insult the grand vizier

[@shadowsonshadowson3929]

Raditz : **approaches a currently flattened Vegeta** look at me, look at me... **Points to Bardock** he is the captain now

[@joshsalcedo9157]

Lol

[@Tellemicus]

Hell yeah! Let's REALLY put Freeza on the back foot and have his precious scouters be unable to locate his hated enemies until it's far too late!

[@Anman999]

I agree.

[@kal9456]

Anman999 agreed

[@dlassassin5676]

AGREED

[@KloutMartyr]

Agreed

[@roguegamer9800]

Agreed

[@farkhark3591]

"What if Bardock convinced the saiyans?" *thumbnail shows Bardock just beating Vegeta down on the ground, about to strike him again after the first bounce* Me: ... C- Convinced the entire Saiyan race to wait for Vegeta to grow up and then beat him down? ???

[@dragringer1480]

Uhh have you watched the part 1 2 and 3?

[@lonewolfmcqu4de898]

Yes I’ve been waiting for this one of my top favorite what ifs violent Savior FTW

[@DeadKraken]

Everyone give praise to our new Violent Savior!

[@JaredJKOB]

Baku Dore Baku Dore

[@orealz]

@@JaredJKOB NO!! None of that! Shame on you!

[@jfax9454]

Sorry i only fight natural blondes

[@grelly_chan8401]

All heil the violent savior!

[@ivanhunter6492]

Kami Guru: NAAILLLL! BARDOCK LIVES ! Nail:... That's not possible, Sir!

[@devonstidham9234]

Wonder if guru would sense bardock and call out to him ?

[@georgehouliaras7239]

Kick his ass

[@tobyclain9467]

Ivan Hunter Kami Guru: Then gather the Dragonballs and wish him BAAAAACCKK!!!!

[@ivanhunter6492]

@@tobyclain9467 Nail : they are stone at the moment, sir

[@jasonfritzke576]

Nail: Guru remember we used the dragon balls to wish for that HD TV you wanted last week. Guru: Nail!!!!!! Go back in time and also wish me popcorn so I can eat it while I watch TV. Nail: guru I can't time travel. Guru: Nail!!!!! Wish yourself back in time so you can wish for yourself to time travel. Nail.....facepalms and walks out Guru: NAilllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come back and get me a bottle of water next to my hand. Nail.......flys off for a week to think of why is he still there

[@commonviewer2488]

Yes, they'll escape Nappa's notice for awhile. Repressing power levels is an easy thing to do in Z, and Nappa's not smart enough to think of that possibility.

[@truestturtle3167]

Saiyans have shown to be very proficient at learning combat techniques, I mean look how fast vegeta learned to suppress his energy in canon. So yes I think they will be able to hide from the frieza force.

[@shapeswitch_mood7221]

BUT MASAKO There's no Poll. :c

[@briantinsley3598]

UNSUBSCRIBE!!!

[@danielf.7151]

UNSIBSRIBE!!!

[@axlmagnus]

I think he realized that everyone would’ve picked to allow the saiyans to suppress their power levels and let it go.

[@HunterDrone]

UNSUBSCRIBE!!!

[@origialtych]

@@axlmagnus you can't know that for sure

[@blackmark2899]

Oh the Saiyans would learn to suppress their energy and pretty fast too. From what I've seen and can remember it's not a hard technique to do and learn. It's just subtly is often overlooked in Dragonball in favor of POWER UPS!

[@crimsongogeta6810]

I say they learn it in time, but only barely to keep some tension. Example: As Nappa’s ship nears the Saiyan colony, he gets a read of multiple high power levels, before the scouter detects them dropping one by one, unaware of what is happening.

[@littlemonkey5002]

I have been waiting for ages but it’s gonna be worth it

[@dragonbladerin2403]

Can't wait for What if trunks met kid Bulma part 2 Also I vote for the sayains learning to suppress there power cause watching freiza squirm would be just delightful

[@ZambonieDude]

This is honestly one of the best what ifs you've done so far, it's actually a different perspective rather than slightly altered version of the DBZ timeline. Like Namek hasn't even happened yet & the boys took off to New Vegeta to train before an assault. That's epic to think about, keep it up.

[@syncrossus]

TL;DR: There's no way Nappa will find them before they learn to hide their power levels. I think it's safe to assume that the new scouters wouldn't exceed a few orders of magnitude increase in detection range. Given that we never see scouters exceed the range of a planet, I don't think the range of the new scouters would exceed a star system. Nappa would probably have to be searching aimlessly for a while before picking up on their star system. Given how little time it took Vegeta to get the hang of Ki sensing and suppressing on his own, I think the other Saiyans could pick it up quickly with proper training. Bear in mind that most if not all Saiyans can use Ki blasts, meaning that they do already have a decent amount of control over the flow of their Ki. Everything points to them learning to suppress their power levels before Nappa finds them.

[@viro6341]

How is that a tldr its super long

[@syncrossus]

@@viro6341 The tl;dr stops at the end of the first sentence, when I make a line break.

[@viro6341]

Oh sorry

[@mplumley95]

Yay, my second favorite What If (behind the Gine one) returns!

[@superior2096]

I'm glad, you didn't change anything. Makes it more interesting that way.

[@GhostRanger117]

A silent force is a deadly force. Friezas got his immense power, why not put him in a spot he cares not for? Suppress the power and hit and run tactics for the win!

[@GhostRanger117]

Arturo The1 not quite what I imagined but okay!

[@macasaurusrex4863]

Guerrila warfare

[@RineYFD]

What if Bardock and the rest of saiyans met Chi-Chi when she was angry. They'd probably think she was another saiyan.

[@LadyMeiun]

My vote is yes, but it won't matter. Simply put, sooner or later someone in the Freeza Force is going to start recognizing a pattern and at that point they're pretty much discovered. As for why my vote is yes, Saiyans tend to pick up on new skills and techniques fairly quickly. Even in canon, Vegeta managed to pick up the energy sensing and suppression techniques incredibly quickly and without much in the way of actual instruction. Now it can be argued that both Goku and Vegeta are both incredibly talented prodigies amongst Saiyans, but even then I imagine it taking no more than a few months to a year tops for the rest of the Saiyans to learn.

[@abhishektiwari327]

I like your videos and I have been watching for a long time.

[@ghostkaiser1716]

I would think that the Saiyans learn to suppress their power for quite a while before Nappa finds them, and by then maybe up to 20-50 planets are under their belt giving them an army to fight Freiza.

[@blades0805]

I really think that the cut 70 minutes of broly might have been bardock minus and Bardock special together

[@Gojira_uz]

And maybe even more story with Broly on the ship.

[@mysticjfee150]

I always love listening to these while I draw or do school work keep up the amaizng work man!

[@darklordgg2117]

Same here bro

[@stefannotchev7209]

4:18 Zarbon goes: “Oh my” End the video right there 😂😂😂

[@supershenron9162]

Hmm. I say yes they do infact learn to control their power and hide it. Stealth mode activate, maybe the krill dog should be teaching that one lol

[@Gojira_uz]

Hey if Vegeta learned it himself, anyone can!

[@supershenron9162]

@@Gojira_uz vegeta is touted as a genius so, not the case but I do believe with help they could all learn how in a fairly quick manor. They've all been training so the knowledge of ki manipulation is def there. Not that far of a stretch to say they learned how to control their own power output from goku bardock and such. Bardock will learn first I'd bet and would be one of the instructors. I mean... he pretty much already is.

[@Gojira_uz]

@@supershenron9162 Very true, and agreed!

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@supershenron9162 just imagine. "Deploy the stealth saw squad."

[@mrnumbers.6936]

(Fish man) “I can the future!”

[@laimissturonas6225]

I can see the future*

[@zekchomenko2927]

@@laimissturonas6225 wooosh

[@javunteharris2725]

good

[@laimissturonas6225]

@@zekchomenko2927 how is that an r/wooosh if i only corrected his shitty grammar since "I can the future" makes no sense.

[@flaremawile726]

I think maybe the saiyan Might be able to supressed they're power level before Nappa finds them, I mean, If character like Krillin, Yamcha, etc. Were able to do it, why can't the saiyans do it?

[@DeadKraken]

I mean, Vegeta learned to feel other's Ki in what......1 day? And he didn't even trained for it. The saiyans can 100% learn to suppress their Ki before Nappa finds them, especially because Nappa doesn't have a clue on where to look for them

[@NathanIslesOfficial]

Krillin: gifted shaolin monk Yamcha: wolf fang fist master/adventurer Saiyans: strong aliens that go mindless when staring into the full 🌙. If suppressing power is concentration based then it makes sense that it would be harder for the saiyans(who also naturally have a higher power level)

[@nappy9987]

@@NathanIslesOfficial Tien was also a Martial Artist with never before seen techniques that bested Goku. He also knew how to FLY.

[@flaremawile726]

@@nappy9987 Yeah, I guess that's a fare enough

[@nappy9987]

@@flaremawile726 Oh to clarify in case you havent seen DB know one knew hot to fly but Tien and The Pokemon Goku needed nimbus and others took planes.

[@Tysoweezy]

Aw hell yeah! Finally it’s here! Been waiting on this for a loooong time

[@AlfredFJones1776]

What if Vegeta turned Super Saiyan first Part 4. Also, Vegeta should end up with either Launch or Android 18 in What if Goku Married Bulma.

[@Bomberboy-zy5qb]

Alfred F. Jones Krillin still gets 18, if he doesn’t I will UnSuBsCrIbE

[@Julian0101]

@@Bomberboy-zy5qb And Raditz gets Launch, or UnSuBsCrIbe!!! What about the sister of Bulma?

[@osiristheexile5457]

@@Julian0101 Her name is Tights btw

[@trevorjackson9110]

vegeta should be with marron krillins old gf

[@Zucchi_Zuru]

Not a bad idea

[@surippa1]

Finally! My favourite What if, Thanks Masako!

[@legendanimations6217]

Imagine if, when they learn to sense energy and are taking over planets they feel an overwhelming energy coming from planet vampa. Or if the scouter taps out sensing it on nappas end.

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

I wonder Would king vegeta be mad or proud that vegeta has two half saiyan children ?

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

@bryan diaz varela plus bulma might hit him over the head like what she does with beerus and goku

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

@bryan diaz varela beerus

[@themenacingsloth]

@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 King Cold AND Frieza, & since in the Broly movie, they had been working for Cold for God knows how long & the Saiyan royal family looks like it's been established for WAY longer than only 5 years like in the original story, that kinda makes it a bit worse for him. Still like K.V., but nonetheless

[@MrCubFan415]

bryan diaz varela Does that mean they can’t go SSJ4?

[@Roosauec]

Proud. For basically conquering a woman of another race. That's how Saiyans would view it, I think.

[@dudedude64]

Does Nappa’s new scouter come with the new ringtone that Lord Freeza requested?

[@someperson2195]

Yay another disscusstion Great Series dude keep it up

[@johnharris8335]

I think the prototype scouter would pick up Vegita's power for a split moment before he could properly suppress his power. This would give them a small challenge, and lead to an interesting bout.

[@WhiplashPuppet]

I say they'd learn to suppress their energy pretty quickly. Remember, Vegeta was able to learn how to do it after seeing it for himself just once when he went to Earth, and he learned to do it without help so clearly. It's not hard to do.

[@flabldorfv3592]

You should continue the what if Vegeta turned super saiyan first into the buu arc

[@pigeon3130]

Damn dude, I've been bingeing these theory videos, and they are very well thought out. You probably already have this in check, but remember that Getes still has his tail at this point, so he can still go Oobaru on Freiza, and probably his allies, cuz you know how he is. Really good vids, almost no missed details (nothing huge anyway)

[@DarkBanks3]

I feel like all but like two or three learn how to suppress their energy, because Vegeta was able to do it easily without being trained, if that’s the case having goku there to teach them would make it go even quicker, the only ones i see being unable to are very low powered or unskilled warriors

[@koradive]

I think the answer might be in between. The Saiyans learn to suppress their power just as Nappa finally gets a lock on them. However, before Nappa can figure out exactly where the blip came from, the signature vanishes with no trace. Nappa, of course, would report the blip and the direction it came from, but by the time he is dispatched to investigate, the other Saiyans would be gone. Nappa, seeing the happiness of the few remaining inhabitants (who wouldn't realize Nappa wasn't a part of the group that had left), he begins to wonder at the direction his people were taking. With the intel Nappa might be able to overhear (from other Frieza soldiers if not Frieza or his entourage), he would find out that the other Saiyans are disrupting resource routes and freeing planets from Frieza's control. Disrupting resources would make sense to Nappa, but the rest probably wouldn't, not at first.

[@shard7549]

How about what if the Ginyu force turned good? Like how about the Z fighters spare Some of the members of the Ginyu force and imprison them instead, ( which may seem far fetched but I recall the Z fighters insisting to spare the members of the Frieza force in RoF) later they escape during a fight with Frieza and say they want to fight for him, but instead Frieza kills them for their weakness, and maybe even Ginyu as a frog witnesses this, the Ginyu force then contemplates this in the other world and I'll let you take it from here Masako.

[@samza360]

"Alright, 'Prince' you follow my orders or you will find yourself lying in a bed of spikes... or spiders... or spiky spiders... spikers" - Bardock

[@nateslife9686]

What If Gohan Became The Main Character Of Dragon Ball

[@devilfromhell8546]

still he won't doooooodggggeee

[@No-nj3oq]

@@devilfromhell8546 Y e s

[@ikariwrathfulssbenko5446]

This has been one of the best what ifs I've seen so far and it's amazing

[@kairordorsshoes]

What if Bardock and friends could practice it in time but there is some not fortunate circumstanses they were spotted so they had to emergency crash to Namek. Ps. love all of your what if.

[@KrazyStargazer]

I always love these "what if sennario's" from you! Their always so thoughtful and have a way of making the DBZ lore so much richer and more complex. In this case I love the more "Star Wars" idea. With the Sayains as the Rebellion and the Frezza Force as the Empire. I can't wait to see how this will shake down

[@theforkedman3030]

Them escaping would make things cooler

[@jonnriggins]

Once again Masako great video! It was perfect for my lunch hour

[@27gamers13]

I do think that the saiyans would learn how to control their energies in time because look how little time it took videl.

[@nappy9987]

She only knew how to fly. Not control the ki and how to sense it. If so she wouldn't have any suspicions about if Mr. Satan was weaker than the group she would flat out know that he is weaker.

[@27gamers13]

@@nappy9987 Yes but if she learned how to fly so fast (which gohan explained you need to control your ki to do) they can probably learn that fast.

[@nappy9987]

@@27gamers13 flying and ki control isn't easy Yes saiyan could probably learn to do it but not fast enough it took Vegeta a while to do it and you need full concentration. Also she does not have a mastery of Ki control like the Z fighters do.

[@Bomberboy-zy5qb]

I love how your story telling allows me to imagine the story in my head with the dragonball z art style

[@jcanims2620]

Ikr

[@bandabanana4939]

Ikr at the same Tim Everytime I'm done listening I feel like I watched Dragon Ball.

[@joshuasepeda3289]

Here's an idea, what if Raditz went to earth instead of Goku?

[@AlfredFJones1776]

Joshua Sepeda So basically what if Raditz became Goku instead of Kakarot?

[@mr.braindead8151]

I guess earth will be gone.

[@joshuasepeda3289]

@@AlfredFJones1776 it would be interesting to see Raditz as a kid with his memory intact on earth growing up like Goku. How would he interact with the Dragonball cast?

[@albertschoise8091]

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[@joshuasepeda3289]

@@albertschoise8091 Just curious, are you a fan of Raditz?

[@shenron00]

I like this what-if a lot so far! It really changes the course of the Dragon Ball story in a more drastic way than even your other stories! I’d love to see Turles pop up at some point in this one (I think he’d really stir things up given how sneaky he is)

[@DanBeddow]

Nappa finds them but they escape to earth after destroying his scouter.

[@DalishHalfling993]

This is one of the best of your work. It's got to be rough totally reinventing the Z timeline from absolute scratch. Like reinventing the wheel.

[@seanmurphy8578]

Is the oracle fish connected to the “I CAN SEE THE FUTURE” fish guy?

[@Sp33dster96]

Dude. I have waiting for this to come back for some time. Thank you!

[@DerBeppone]

This what if, is by far my favourite. This actually does give the Sayan Saga a whole new deep meaning for everyone. It kinda does erase training with King Kai, as of this moment though.... Either way, I am really thrilled to hear, how this story proceeds. It does take a lot effort to create such an elaborate alternative time line and I enjoy it a lot!

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

One of my favourites what ifs series, amazing job.

[@OneTwoManyMany]

Bulma be getting them vapours alright.

[@stevendean455]

I love the idea of this cat and mouse game while the Saiyans prepare their revenge. Should be an interesting series!

[@Jgosse]

What if Vegeta used the dragon balls to turn all humans into saiyans?

[@nicolascuba6999]

That would be a amazing idea for a what if

[@nicolascuba6999]

I hope you read this comment and opinion

[@joshuasimpson4021]

@cbridg01 If not, the next best option is the Super Dragon Balls. If it is capable of switching the bodies of Zamasu and Goku, then it should be possible to alter someone's DNA.

[@coiby346]

I wanna see this happen

[@jessica6d946]

@Eros Matthew Montallana however after the freeza situation they altered that so it might be possible

[@QuickSilverD]

Vegeta learned to sense and control his power level almost as soon as he realized it was possible, is an easy enough technique to learn for anyone relevant (with high power level) that I see no way Nappa can find them before that

[@theCidisIn]

Ahhh simpler times. Hahaha WHO CAN SEE THE FUTURE!

[@fatmat6481]

Watching this while suffering from diarrhoea after working nightshift and finishing at 4am, thanks for helping me through ma man Masako

[@pallavkarri8288]

What if Frieza saw vegetas potential part 2?

[@wolffasthorse5316]

I have an idea for the next part, the sayians in their planet hopping tactics stumble upon namek and are met with the frieza force led by Nappa, and a three way battle ensues with namekian warriors, frieza fighters, and the main Saiyan gang with Goku and his earth buddies, and the namekians are genuinely confused as to who to side with

[@hibikikuze1876]

Can Gine be mentioned or ask by anyone in the Son? Family?

[@johnharris8335]

I think in this WI Gine would be highly respected for her duties.

[@leirbag1595]

My head canon for this what-if is that Gine was one of the saiyans who got blasted when trying to escape Vegeta.

[@TAPn.]

This is by far my favorite what if!! I NEED MORE

[@omnizombie1874]

What if Goku went ultra instinct during the fight with kid buu? I know he didn't know what self movement was but it'll still be cool

[@jon12345306]

This is my favorite what if!!! Please keep this one going

[@AliVegeta]

My wife wouldn’t have left me that’s what would have happened

[@Sil3ntLynx]

I think it'd be interesting if Freeza at least got an inkling that they could hide their power level, but not immediately realise it, maybe they get away from him at the last moment, him thinking his scouter got damaged or was faulty until he got back to one of his planets and one of his underlings tells him it seems to be in perfect working order. He nearly explodes in anger at his underling, thinking he's implying it's somehow Freeza's fault when it clicks. He simply walks away, leaving the underling almost confused as to why he's still alive as he mutters to himself "So the monkeys learnt of a way to sneak around..."

[@primraydreamer9049]

What if the Ginyu Force turned good?

[@nicolascuba6999]

Interesting what if that is to be along with that would be awesome as well

[@adrianmichel8959]

YES YES! been waiting for this one.

[@terraoranges1236]

What if Bardock went with goku?

[@henrywallace1732]

What if put an entire poll page on your website? That and/or a brainstorming forum could help not only think of new what-ifs to do, but maybe even help write them. Keep up the good work!

[@dragonballofm4860]

I like to think dragonball, dragonball z, dragonball super, and gt are almost their own continuities. The Broly movie bardock is the bardock of dragonball super, and the father of goku bardock was the bardock of dragonball z.

[@kevinwyman3385]

I love where this is going! You do a great job man

[@harrimat100]

I think Nappa actually does something right and finds them on the scouter, but just before the gang learns how to suppress their power. That way, when Nappa goes to Freiza, they're slowly blipping out of existence. A real race against time.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

This series As fish man says it : “ITS ON FIRE!!!”

[@sonsyed2840]

Can't wait for the next one in the series,

[@raulpatino1724]

This is my favorite series can't wait for part 5.

[@KaullyHD]

This is perfect thank you for making the best what ifs on youtube!

[@N_DAnimationEnthusiast]

Finally! We get a new part to this what if!

[@sassycat-bl8js]

Yes I was waiting for this for so long!

[@Banchoking]

An army of stealthy Saiyans liberating world's from tyranny? Yes please!

[@whotintarnation4544]

Yess It's Here Thanks Masakox👍

[@nolankanski9116]

Man, you make some unique and believable fanfictions.

[@Miss-DNL]

Yes! I've been waiting for this one! one of my fav what ifs!

[@nonenone9286]

Yes! Thank you Masako ! Thank you!I doubt it’s because you saw me comment on multiple videos but thank you !

[@jacobschmidt4389]

keep it going buddy always do a good job on a quest to make sure ive watched all the what ifs

[@richc.]

Masako: That’s where we’ll leave things for now Me: *How long is for now?*

[@Fantasygirl2001]

This is one of my favorites and I think they would be able to learn to suppress their power levels in time but it would also help if they rethought their plan through and remove themselves from the planet they are currently on and got to earth with Goku and the rest that way they could build up their number even higher and do even more damage to freeza to speak nothing of having a greater supply of senzu beans which would enable all of them to get even stronger and have an even greater chance against freeza

[@JohnnyGuiltyMan]

Can't wait to see more of this!

[@richardoc7294]

I’ve waiting too long for this , but worth it

[@jeremiahlara7130]

FINALLY THE MOMENT HAS COME!!!!!!!

[@coolerjr3930]

Masako I love ur what ifs all of them make sense and would be interesting if hey would be in the actual anime

[@steelprime5067]

Hearing the saiyans can be redeem in this what if is awesome well done Masako!