What If CATHOLIC'S Won The 30 YEARS WAR? (Ft. Possible History)

[@Videntis.History]

I misspoke at 15:20, the Peace of Munich was signed on January 2, 1642, NOT in 1842. I also accidentally said France joined the Catholic League, when it was the Catholic Coalition, sorry about that

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Np man. Love your work😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@aaronsitoleallopez1645]

Yes bbg love you🧑🏿‍⚖️

[@GattsuOfficial]

U alr bro

[@Zimbabweballenthusiast]

It’s fine no one even noticed PS this video has gotten past the 4000 like Mark

[@jimryan5513]

Suggestion for a new topic: What if Constantine III stayed in Britannia in 407 AD and kept the province Roman? Instead of fighting in Gaul, he strengthens this outpost to become "Nova Romana", which years later the Saxons would have problems taking it for themselves.

[@jakekn7304]

As a Hapsburgs simp, i can only dream about this 😢 or maybe play as Austria or castile in eu4😃

[@pep-qew]

Virgin Pope is bad Vs Chad Habsburg marry your own sister to get bigger chin.

[@deutschermichel5807]

All my homies hate France

[@willemvanoranje5724]

eww, habsburg jaw be goofy ahh ewww.... I WON FAIR AND SQUARE! LAAT DIE HARSBUGERS MAAR OPDONDEREN!

[@SretroOfTheNortheast]

As a bourbon enjoyer I see this as an absolute l

[@abukafiralalmani]

​@@SretroOfTheNortheastPlease play against each other

[@British-R-Mapping]

you know its a good video when my 2 favourite and underrated youtubers collabe to create absolute masterpieces, Please continue all of your stuff!

[@lunalingo4461]

yessir!

[@pietrobandinellibandinelli6139]

For real, these 2 make an amazing ammount of videos of incredible quality

[@john-georgiosarkis2174]

Another great video. I think a good list of alternate scenarios for future videos could be: 1. What if the Jacobites successfully reconquered the British crown? 2. What if the mongols conquered the Mamluks? 3. What if the Brazilian empire survived? 4. What if Japan became catholic? 5. What if the new world discovered the old world? 6. What if Spain won the Spanish-American War? 7. What if the Crusades succeeded? 8. What if the French Revolution failed? 9. What if Carthage conquered Rome? 10. What if Catherine the Great successfully restored the Byzantine empire?

[@CheekyHaggis]

"What if Japan became Catholic" would be awesome

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Congrats on the shout out from Possible history! You're making strides man!

[@Videntis.History]

Thanks for the love

[@zhcultivator]

​​​​@@Videntis.History Great video as always. What If Turkey was Communist? What if Iraq was Communist? What if an Independent Communist Assyria was created by the Soviets? What if Iran was a Communist Marxist-Leninist Republic today? What if China converted to Nestorian Christianity? (with a heavy Confucian-Taoist influence) What if Turkey became an Islamic-Fascist Republic after ww1? What if Brazil was communist? What iv

[@kuroazrem5376]

As always, great video, and also great that you and Possible History are collaborating. I have 4 suggestions for videos: 1. What if Spain remained an important Empire in the XIX Century by: Keeping the Philippines, conquering Morocco, and maybe keeping Cuba and Puerto Rico (I think you're doing this one, so take it as a reminder). 2. What if Al-Andalus never collapsed? 3. What if China became Muslim and Japan Christian? 4. What if the Omani Ibadi Empire never collapsed? (I may help you with this one because I know a lot about Oman and Ibadism).

[@gigachad2162]

That's interesting

[@maskedmidas1655]

For the 3rd one Japan would quite literally have not only anime but GOD on their side

[@benjaminobienu5297]

Here are exciting ideas for alternate history scenarios: What if Elisabeth Joanna of Holstien-Gottrip ( mother of Catherine the Great) had lived and returned from exile and had made herself regent for her grandson Paul, the future Tsar ( Emperor) of Russia? What would be the motivations for Elisabeth Joanna of Holstein- Gottrop to make herself regent for Paul? What would she gain from it, and would Elisabeth Joanna be the mother figure her grandson Pual wanted from his mother? Would Elisabeth care for Paul or only use it to get power and make herself the new Tsar of Russia? What if Oda Nobunaga survived and became the first Shogun of Japan? What would a Nobunaga Shogunate be different than a Tokugawa Shogunate ruling Japan instead? What direction could Oda Nobunaga take with him, Shogun of Japan, and would his first acts as Shogoun, and what would his policies and reforms benefit Japan? Could Japan win the Imjin War with Oda Nobungaga's leadership, and could Japan annex all of Ming China? Or is that impossible? What if Rani of Jhansi ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rani_of_Jhansi) had survived the battle of Gawlior by retreating and became the leader of the Indian Rebellion of 1857 and unify all of India and restore the Maratha Empire? Could Jhansi ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhansi_State) be the new capital of a united India with a revived Martha Empire, and would Rani Lakshimbal become the Empress of a united India, or it be her adoptive son Damodar Rao the Emperor of India? Which of these scenarios do you like best, Mr. Videntis? And which of the three scenarios are your favorites, and which have you never heard of?

[@lottenetzel8751]

22:09 Bro forgot the Philippines as it's Spanish colony lmao

[@memazov6601]

What if Poland and Russia united under one banner i wanna see it

[@dark-Angel233]

Unholy aliance

[@patrykranosz4826]

It was almost possible. Poland almost got their monarch on Russian throne but Cleregy stopped him from converting to Orthodoxy to be able to get Russia

[@soberman1520]

Russian empire banner after Napoleonic wars 👀👀👀, communist banner after ww2 👀👀👀

[@pep-qew]

Polish Lithuanian Muscovy Commonwealth under Warsaw rule??? 😳🙋‍♂️

[@maxschon7709]

They would look for icefree ports and the coqueast of Istanbul.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

3:03 Thanks for the shout out man! Gonna make sure to always give you interesting ideas!

[@Videntis.History]

Thanks for the idea!

[@maxschon7709]

A lot of Protistant Germans would leave for the Americas or south Africa. The former dutch colonies in Indonesia would be safe haven for them too. If there would a Habsburg Pope he will declare a new crussade to reconquer Constaninople and the Holy Land.

[@givemeawand]

What if Hanover remained in person union with Britain (both inherited by Queen Victoria) would be an interesting scenario

[@francescocarlini7613]

With the Thirty Years War cut shorter, one of the Catholic powers would invade England during the English Civil War to help the Royalists.

[@gergelylaszlo5463]

Well, probably not. Or even if they'd do, it would probably fail. If your interested, I'll try to explain

[@francescocarlini7613]

@@gergelylaszlo5463 I am interested, please go on.

[@voltageesq.]

@@gergelylaszlo5463 im interested, if that counts

[@gergelylaszlo5463]

@@voltageesq. The Catholics had no intention of helping the royalists (Unless Charles I converts to catholicism which I doubt) because the royalists were still mostly protestants. All the catholic irish confederates helped Charles, it wasn't out of love for the king (They themselves revolted against the king in 1641) but more because they viewed Charles as a better, more tolerant ruler as there was no chance they'd accept a parliament ruled by presbytarians and puritans. After all, the anglican church still very much rejected papal power, so the catholic powers wouldn't support either side. At best, I can imagine the spanish building up a huge armada like they did in 1588 to exploit the political chaos in England to take over the crown of England and re-convert them to catholicism, but even that is far-fetched in my opinion.

[@voltageesq.]

@@gergelylaszlo5463 damn that IS interesting you were right

[@nadri3335]

as a spaniard i love this scenario, finally a united iberia, with full control over the americas, we could see an america full of spaniards, and of course all pf the peoples of those civilisations there too. ¡Plus Ultra!

[@Videntis.History]

Glad you liked it

[@archanarajan7086]

Suggestion - What if the French and Austrians won the Seven Years War.

[@kenw7287]

The only nitpick that I have with this video is that Anne Marie of Austria would not remarry a Portuguese prince as the previous Portuguese ruling House of Aviz had completely died out in the male line. This was the reason why Philip II of Spain and the Habsburgs were even able to accomplish the Iberian Union in real life.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Suggestion: What if Henry V of England Survived and birthed a dual monarchy?

[@Hannibalian]

um yes please!

[@bokonoo77]

unlikely sooner or later the french lords would have removed his son

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

He would’ve been the third English king called “the great”

[@mappingshaman5280]

​@fakemanspider4939 whom is the second? There's only one king called the great and that's Alfred.

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

@@mappingshaman5280 cnut the great

[@justynajoniak6737]

What if Wladyslaw III crushed the Turks at Varna leading to a Catholic domination and ending House Osman before they could dominate the Bridge of Europe and Asia (delayed discovery of America? Massive Poland? Christian Brethren United?)

[@widodoakrom3938]

I could see the great Britain and the ottoman will United against the hasburg as replacement of Spanish war of succession

[@Ashstar4]

Really interesting. I have suggestions for videos, also at the time of Ferdinand II Trastamara of Aragon's death he actually had a cousin who was a surviving male line of the aragon Trastamara line Henry, Count of Ampurais and Duke of Segorbe who's father was Henry Duke of Villena 2nd son of Ferdinand I. Also at one point Ivan the Terrible had proposed marriage to Elizabeth I 1. What Ferdinand II of Aragon's son with his second wife Germaine of Foix survived. 2. What if Ferdinand made his cousin his heir or his cousin took the throne. 3. What if Francis had agreed to help Henry VIII in persuading the pope to change his ruling of his (Henry's) marriage to Anne being illegitimate. 4. What if Catherine of Aragon had died in the Sweating Sickness outbreak in 1528. 5. What if Elizabeth's marriage negotiations with Francis youngest son Charles had not fallen through and she ended up marrying him and had a son that inherited England and eventually France. 6. What if Mary (Henry VIII's daughter) had married Philip, Duke of Palatinate-Neuburg. 7. What if Victoria had married Alexander of the Netherlands instead of Albert. 8. What if the Pope had ruled in Henry VIII's favor in The King's Great Matter. 9. What if Elizabeth I had married Ivan the Terrible and had a son that inherited England and Russia.

[@polskirzniwiarz5034]

All thou I love this cenario I don't think anyone could turn Poland into a full absolut monarchy without a military intervention

[@James-pv5kj]

Me encantaría seguir viendo los posibles escenarios a lo largo de la historia. Sigue así.

[@michelwardynski6498]

It’s refreshing to see an alt history that doesn’t shy away from factoring in how butterfly effects might change geopolitics across the globe. The Hapsburg colonial empire you’ve created here is the kind of thinking alt history fans have been looking for. Hopefully there will be a part 2. Extrapolating from events so far it seems unlikely Prussia will ever rise to unify or dominate the German states. It happens a different way decades earlier or later. But it also means neither world war occur - at least not with the same allies/axis line up, or start/end dates. Looks like Catholic Ireland could experience a Golden Age in this timeline. There’s so many possibilities here.

[@kuroazrem5376]

Other ideas: 1. What if Gran Colombia still existed? 2. What if the Japanese Empire never collapsed?

[@PaoloCavestro-ey9bb]

What if Europe, Middle East, America and Africa had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?

[@SirBoggins]

Found you from Possible History. Cool stuff!

[@Videntis.History]

Glad you liked it

[@SirBoggins]

@@Videntis.History 👍🏼

[@vihanuyyuru6]

great video! suggestions: What if the Kalmar union still existed? What if the Mongol empire never formed?

[@Videntis.History]

Thanks for the idea!

[@zhcultivator]

​​​​​​@@Videntis.History What if Korea converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity? What if New Zealand was colonised by Portugal? What if the Amazon was a Hot Desert, while the Sahara was a Rainforest? What if an Independent and modernized Guarani Kingdom existed today in the 21st century? What if Ancient Iran industrialized? What if Europe converted to Zurvanism? (or Zurvanite Zoroastrianism) What if the Kingdom of Syria still existed? What if Syria was a Communist country today? What if England/the U.K. colonized Indonesia? What if the Dutch colonized Australia? What if China was a Colonial Superpower? (with Settler colonies like Britain) What if the Hittites survived till today?

[@Mr_OogaBooga]

Glad to see my 2 favorite alt hist channels cooperate

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Yes! Been waiting for Habsburg love for a long time! Thanks man!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

[@Videntis.History]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

22:00 What a beautiful sight. Long live the Habsburgs! AEIOU! Suggestion: What if Constantine suceeded Alexander I as Emperor of Russia and liberizaced it earlier?

[@josealves2128]

I feel relieved this shit never took place.

[@ilyac3185]

I love that the Russians and English are just chilling this entire time.

[@CARL_093]

22:18 you miss Philippines to be marked bec spain is under Harrisburg and Philippines is Spanish colony

[@ianloney3756]

Theres 4k like please make a part 2 youre one of the best alt hist youtubers out there man!!!!

[@agentzapdos4960]

Suggestion: make an alternate history that results in an eternal global empire where literally all of humanity are subjects to a single flag or king until the end of organized civilization.

[@KenKaneki-me5lo]

I was literally the 4.000th like. Now im waiting for the party 2

[@Mr_OogaBooga]

Old fan of yours your keeping up your good work as usual!

[@Videntis.History]

Much appreciated!

[@unclesam5230]

Great video! Also a suggestion: what if the First Mexican Empire survived. Another suggestion: what if the United States Conquered Canada during the American Revolution

[@timmyrich75]

Or if they were also taxed and had rebelled alongside the US

[@EmisoraRadioPatio]

Catholics did win the 30 Years War--the French Catholics, that is. Spanish-Imperial forces destroyed the Swedish army at Nordlingen, leading to the dissolution of the Swedish-led Protestant alliance. Cardinal Richelieu correctly saw the Hapsburgs were closing in on France. France intervened to save the Protestants and declared war on Spain. France paid more subsidies to Sweden to stay in the war (25% of Sweden's budget was paid by France), invaded Spanish Italy, and allied with the Dutch to invade Spanish Netherlands. France won and so became Europe's predominant power for over a century. The greatest political consequence of the 30 Years War was a rebalancing of power...between Catholic France and Spain.

[@arx3516]

What were Savoy and Venice doing during all of this?

[@JulesFaraday22]

Can you please make a part 2 of this video?

[@Littleyeetboi]

Another great vid man, I got some alt his suggestions here, would be interesting to see your take on them: What if Japan won the Imjin War? What if Japan continues to liberalize and not be taken over by the militarist during the 1930s and onward? (Wholesome Japan larp across Asia?)

[@JulesFaraday22]

Can you please make a part 2 of this video? I’m pretty sure this has enough likes at this point.

[@HoyHablamosDeHHD]

HOW DO U DO THIS MAPS THEY ARE SO GOOOOOD

[@Enyavar1]

The whole way through the video I thought about England. What are the English doing there, sitting on the sidelines while watching a threatening super-Habsburg being created and their protestant allies slaughtered??? Everyone opposed to the unfolding events are just laying the hands in their laps, and let the Habsburgs steamroll them. (like the Swedish and Polish nobility - no revolts??)

[@Beorthere]

This would probably create a Huguenot France.

[@dominicadrean2160]

Here's a unique scenario what if humans had longer life spans

[@PolskaAnimations]

Wasn't Poland-Lithuania allies with the other Catholics

[@VonGuildehaus]

If Louis died, the Pope wouldnt need to annull the marriage. Marriage ends at death

[@TheWazzoGames]

Damn, your mapping and editing is REALLY good. I’m commenting for the algorithm!

[@Videntis.History]

Thanks so much

[@matiasmendes8528]

Awesome video! Please do a what if Burgundy was successful with Charles the Bold!

[@prussia1997]

What if the crusades succeeded?

[@Aristocles22]

The Protestants had to be saved by a Catholic country. Really, if not for France, this would have been totally different.

[@JustJ_KK]

2 of my favourite KZbinrs making vid sceanarios together 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@domenicocutrone5338]

What if Frederick II united Italy and survived longer than 1250 (at 56 years). It's a curious "what if".

[@justsaying7565]

Do what if the spanish armada had concored britan

[@lothayre]

the good ending

[@benjaminobienu5297]

This is amazing, Mr. Videntis. The Habpurgs won the 3o thirty years war, giving the Haburgs more power in Europe, and I never expected the Hapburgs to rule France. I don't know if the English envy the Habpurgs to rule France or be frightened. France is now under their despicable rival even the English see the French as their rivals. Wladslaw IV Vasa is an Hapburg that shocked me the most, and who the Polish are actually related to the Habsurbs, and if they're related, then come the Vasas never tried to help the Habsburgs in the first place? But the ending and conclusion are gorgeous and impressive, with the Holy Roman Empire under the Hapburg dynasty managing massive colonization in North and South America along some lands in Africa, India, and Indonesia. But all the members of the Habsburg Dynasty ruling all those lands is an expressive feat making them the true heir of Charlemagne and successor of Rome, and that is an extensive empire they have made. This is a great collaboration video; Mr. Videntis and Mr. Possible History; please keep up the great work and stay positive, my friends. No matter what happens and what anybody says, remember you guys are worthy of respect and recognition for putting your effort into making these videos. I'm glad I get to see this fantastic content, and you guys made KZbin an actual place for learning and community. Don't you forget that!

[@missingmochigumanofficial]

How come I can't see this through your channel and only through Possible History's video description? This video is probably unlisted.

[@crusader2112]

I saw it just fine.

[@missingmochigumanofficial]

@@crusader2112 Looks like it was made public after I(?) brought attention to it.

[@crusader2112]

@@missingmochigumanofficial 👍

[@Videntis.History]

There was miscommunication on the time we were gonna publish

[@dominicadrean2160]

Here's a fun what if scenario but also Hitler's worst nightmare Slavic Germany there were slapping people that did live in East Germany and modern day Prussia if I got this idea from ck3😅

[@someonesilence3731]

This is outright apocalyptic

[@tedh9u]

Daniel really slipped something in this video.

[@Oxbowmars5103]

This is absolutely insane, needs a part 2

[@anomynoususer2358]

You should do a Part 2

[@ChloeVitagliano]

In this scenario England would either massively intervene on the Protestant side or the civil war would start much earlier due to Charles II already being suspected of having Catholic sympathies. Then the parliamentaries would still intervene.

[@homero_con_lechuguilla]

Just saying, the Spanish King had no centralised power by the XVII century. Centralisation would go with enlightened despotism. Here we talk about a Polysynodial regime. Aka the king governs over several political entities and recognise them. Note: I realised you got a big trouble when it comes to understand the political entities.

[@jansundvall2082]

Sigismund had been king of Sweden, but didn’t have the honorary title of grand Duke of Finland. This title was only given once, to his father by his father, when he gave his sons own dukedoms in the late part of his rule. The provinces on the east side of the Bothian sea were integrated parts of the Swedish realm.

[@edgareliseev1773]

Please do a what if Baldwin the Leper King lived longer

[@justus4341]

Could you do: What if the Protestants won the 30 years war?

[@Videntis.History]

yeah at some point, its just that Possible History just made a video on that so

[@SirMOCbuilder]

Hey man, amazing video keep it up!

[@Videntis.History]

Thanks, will do!

[@kenos911]

Nice video Thedentist

[@Videntis.History]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@thes3th]

“Videntis”

[@iulianlupastean7038]

What do you think about a video in which you describe what whould have happened if Napoleon balkanized most of the european empires. For example: spliting spain into Galicia, castile, navarra, leon , aragon and catalonia, and establish all these states as client states. Also for th Austrian and Ottoman empire who were multicultural and contained many ethnicities and religions.

[@Hoshinosaull]

Hey, I started watching You from yesterday and I very liked Your channel. I would be interested in video "What if Poles migrated to Germany after fall of Carolingian Empire" ? Poles I mean Polish ofc. Have a nice day/evening/morning/night or any time You read this in.

[@Videntis.History]

Good idea

[@Videntis.History]

Check out what would have happened if the Protestant's won the 30 years war on Possible History's channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKrHl3qiqbGUmpo

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Already did!😊😊😊😊

[@Hannibal-fe3cp]

Link down

[@mrsillytacos]

Blud got the goofy ahh collab 🗣🗣

[@americanmapping832]

I love his channel, my favorite video is the martian 1913 video, my favorite series is "what if everything went perfect for X country"

[@dominicadrean2160]

Here's a funny video idea and this could be a series videos basically what if Queen Elizabeth the First of England married her suitors because she had a lot king of Spain the king of Denmark Sweden Ivan the Terrible version many men want her hand in marriage though I've always found the Ivan Terrible marriage proposal the most interesting😅

[@epiceducation867]

We've reached 4000 likes now upload part 2

[@aloisaugusto4270]

Part 2?

[@fatheadgaming3584]

plz make what if the hueguenots won in france

[@willemvanoranje5724]

your channel is so fucking good

[@Videntis.History]

Thanks

[@willemvanoranje5724]

@@Videntis.History got here through Possible History, this video has been one of your most realistic ones, would love some takes on Dutch alt-history :D

[@radored7750]

Awesome two videos.

[@Videntis.History]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Cheur]

WHEN'S PART 2

[@ColtRobbins-jy7qy]

What if Austria Hungary joined that Allies in World War One the reason they would join the Allies because the Austro Prussian war ruined there friendship

[@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450]

I imagine this would have intensified the inbreeding issue, and I feel like this would have brought them to into a decline as new upstart houses seize the opportunity to depose the growingly incompetent Habsburgs.

[@crusader2112]

Mega Habsburg Europe. I like it. Lang Lebe De Kaiser! Habsburg Russia okay that’s cursed.

[@Videntis.History]

Pretty cursed

[@HD.Keem96]

I can't allow the HRE to exist in any paradox game

[@Belgisch_Monarchist1831]

Absolutely based AEIOU forever also given me an idea for a new eu4 campaign

[@Videntis.History]

Hope your campaign is successful

[@Belgisch_Monarchist1831]

@@Videntis.History thanks my friend keep up the good work

[@Belgisch_Monarchist1831]

@@Videntis.History also an idea for a future video about the 7 years war or Spanish succession and the brothers war with a habsburg victory

[@aceofconquest5745]

I'd like to see a Re-Christianization of the lands the muslims took from the Byzantine Empire by the Habsburg Dynasty. They'd have the power and motivation of a unified Europe to do so and avenge the lands lost to the musilm conquests. (It's interesting thinking that a Dynasty existed in Europe since usually only heard about Dynasties in Ancient Egypt or in China.)

[@patrickberanek8217]

Thoroughly, epically based.

[@zaidatimash713]

What if Nader shah secured his succession and wasn’t assassinated?

[@Moneymaker7357]

You should do, what if the Mongol empire never collapsed

[@Wheninrome6042]

Best ending

[@Thomas_Name]

10:00 I'm pretty sure England would have at least tried to intervene at this point 😅

[@mappingshaman5280]

We were a bit busy having a civil war and trying to prevent Scotland from keeping their king in charge of us.

[@Thomas_Name]

@@mappingshaman5280 Excuses.

[@l.hans0692]

​@@Thomas_Namethe english civil war was chaos their is no way they could've intervened

[@thatcentralAmerican]

Could you do a video on central America? Perhaps if the federal republic of central America didn't collapse

[@amlking]

Really cool map

[@victor382]

I wish but France had to betray like that.

[@Juan-qu4oj]

If the Huguenots won the French Wars of Religion, France would most likely ally with their Catholic brethren against the Protestants.

[@twitchcoolbob66]

Pt.2 pls?

[@chrissy7986]

1. Great Video 2. What if carthage won the 1. Punic war could be a good idea

[@charlesl3847]

what if The king of France took the spanish trone during the war of spanish succession

[@Videntis.History]

Good idea, added to my list

[@charlesl3847]

@@Videntis.History ^^, i also have some other idea regarding the french (i'm french, vive la france). What if france become a dictatorship under the impulse of the "croix de feu" before ww 2. what if there was no other coalition after the victory of the revolutionary french in the first one. What if Pétain revolted against hitler after the formation of vichy france. What if France aligned with the soviet during the cold war

[@RobinBrown-nk5yv]

Sounds better than this shitty timeline

[@lottenetzel8751]

So no Born-again Christianity in that timeline?