What if Christianity was Rome's Woke Movement?

[@lorenzomizushal3980]

Wokeism is indeed a type of religion.

[@McCloud23892]

This is exactly was happening in the US, orchestrated by special one chosen class of people

[@quentinsummers2531]

The same kind of people as in rome

[@DivinizedOne]

j-

[@thefranken-thing]

​@@DivinizedOneewwww.🤮 I'm just grossed out. I'm not finishing a word at all.👀

[@anomanderrake3593]

@@quentinsummers2531 How dare you talk about the ethnicity of Paul, Peter, Luke, Mark, Matthew, Joseph, Mary, David, Moses, Jacob and Abraham. How dare you man. Just keep letting them print your money and worship one of them in your church.

[@MasterTeacher666]

Bro no, it’s Islam and Marxism, which both reject Judaism.

[@isaacbrowning5871]

This video has strengthened my resolve to stoping social justice.

[@jamaalsmith5626]

So you've been motivated to commit violence. Good luck lowbrow criminal.

[@Damon_At_Forged_Faith]

Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈

[@ghengiskhan9308]

Bruh it's a hypothetical. Boyo even did a conversation saying it wasn't emsn to be taken seriously

[@jacobshoup]

r/wooosh

[@justanothernick3984]

This video could also open your eyes to the change you have to make to adapt to the times. It's like holding back the hands of time and claiming you have stopped time.

[@kaloarepo288]

G K Chesterton the English writer who was a Catholic convert and apologist (Father Brown series) used to argue that Christianity got blasted from both sides - when it was muscular and militant it got blasted for that (Crusades,colonialism etc ) and when it touted forgiveness, meekness and pacifism it got blasted for being that. They can't win!

[@Tonixxy]

Who is there to criticize when they are all deal? Genghis Khan

[@pavelthefabulous5675]

@@Tonixxy *Dmitry Donskoy enters the chat

[@ventnrage4851]

Yeah guy makes ridiculous claims like "If we fed you to the lions, then why are there still many of you left?" Bruh🤦‍♂️

[@mjt1517]

@@Tonixxy what?

[@natmanprime4295]

Because it's wrong. Whatever it does, it does stupidly

[@thecorner2511]

"There's Carthaginan's talking about wakanda or something." Perfect.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Phoenicia forever!

[@thecorner2511]

@MK ULTRA Phonecia must be a rival to wakanda in this universe. They better up the child sacrifice if they want to take out the Black Panther.

[@AlexIncarnate911]

As if they’re comparable. Carthaginians were one of the most integrated populations in Western part of the Roman Empire and North Africa had some of the wealthiest provinces. They were not some losers lacking in culture and history nor were they stagnant. They were never enslaved en mass and they were not particularly inclined to entertain fantasies of greatness. They were great.

[@controlc2282]

@@AlexIncarnate911 Well put

[@thecorner2511]

@AlexIncarnate911 Agreed, but it's still fun to imagine Carthage battling Wakanda. Maybe that's why they lost their wars with Rome? Hannibal had just defeated the Black Panther before his military turned to face Scipio. So his military was exhausted. Damn Wakanda! Carthage could never catch a break, because of you!

[@noneofyourbusiness4595]

Rome tolerated all religious practice, the Christians wanted that to change, not to have the right of faith but the right to destroy other faiths.

[@dannylo5875]

All these religions with Abrahamic faiths are like this. They are actually just copies of each other. Analogues. No matter what defense these religions may try to see other believe or make a defensive stance or take that they are not the same. Trust me. The Human violations and values are still ingrained into the minds of these people.

[@dannylo5875]

Forgot to say. But the same fundamental thoughts are in these religions that have become brutish.

[@pdjinne65]

Rome would have survived had it not had widespread slavery, and therefore industrialized more (they had the steam machine figured out after all, just like the Aztecs had the wheel but didn't use it)

[@ChristianLopez-r3b]

Bad idea on romes part

[@Dapryor]

Dude, you’ve got a gift for this type of thing. I’ve listened to you off and on for a while now and I’m always amazed by how you present your thoughts. Never stop what you’re doing.

[@mattsavigny6084]

My therapist: the Nietzschean Carl Sagan doesn't exist, he can't hurt you. The Nietzschean Carl Sagan:

[@brandennoyce24]

Fascinating video. I think the explosion of new ideologies is more a symptom of a crumbling empire than its cause, both now and then.

[@uberboyo]

Yes, I'm moving towards this

[@alechboy3578]

Of course christianity wasn't the cause of the empire's fall. The eastern roman empire stayed until 1453 with orthodoxy while the heretic western catholics fell a millenium prior. Also Nietzche was a mason so this video is biased af

[@ganykaliya7811]

Actually it's more of a chicken and egg argument. These new ideologies are both a symptom and a cause of a crumbling empire.

[@intelliGENeration]

Not Christianity… it was meant as a weapon to subvert the unstoppable Roman drive… but Romans caught on to it, pivoted to adopted it as their own weapon. Now their empire (in hiding) is 2.5BN strong… 2000 year later. All the splinters and spin-offs of Christianity that exist today, such as J’ Witnesses, SDAs, etc… are all attempts to thin the trunk of Roman Catholicism, by drawing Catholics into smaller armies that challenge and fight Rome from every front, especially through infiltration (ie. Jesuits).

[@TechnoMinarchist]

@@ganykaliya7811 they're birthrd by the collape, and accelerate the collapse

[@zaggy3110]

saw the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games Wokeism 1.0 (Christianity) was botched and ridiculed by wokeism 2.0

[@calebgamer1720]

You’re an oxymoron. There’s nothing woke about Christianity

[@GermanicKentuckian]

Yes, The worship of Yeshua was the first woke shift.

[@siecheil]

they were making fun of dionysus and paganism, it had nothing to do with the last supper. the fact that you thought it was about the last supper means youre incapable of identifying the very themes recycled to create christianity..

[@hencesmidt668]

the fact you believe them at their word is hilarious 😂

[@joellaz9836]

@@GermanicKentuckian Actually the first woke shift came with the worship of Zeus who was a pedo that kidnapped little boys.

[@strauss7151]

The first converts to Christianity were women and slaves. That should tell you everything about what kind of creatures it was meant for.

[@CzarLazar1389]

Fear not, romanphile! I heard men can become pregnant now thanks to modern technology! You can know make your polygamous gau Roman utopia with only men and no beasts that are women or slaves.

[@tsurugi5]

@@CzarLazar1389castrate yourself for yeshua Ben panthera as you will be his bride in heaven

[@AMightyFortress]

You’re incorrect. First converts of Christianity involved people from all strata. There were tax collectors, Roman centurions, women, fishermen, doctors, aristocrats, bureaucrats, slaves, priests…. All groups of people. You’re fooled and given false information here. The fall of Rome happened because of its infestation with sins, injustices and sodomy. Christianity grew when Romans were already falling apart.

[@HMFOG]

Massive cope 😂 Christ is King, St. Boniface pray for us 🌲🪓

[@grimz8158]

​@@HMFOG boniface had no head

[@Kain_R_Heinlein]

"Christianity is the grandfather of bolshevism/communism" and essentially all liberal thought. Best said by Oswald Spangler. It most definitely is when you look at the economy between the Old and New testaments and actions they took against Gentile Nations

[@SeanThomasCross]

Old testament is Jewish.

[@redditor7548]

Yep, 100%. Literally it dissolved all the Europeans people identities/cultures and globalized them under one religion and made all their ancestral religions illegal as worship of false idols. Proto cultural Marxism

[@wormwoodcocktail]

The whole concept of Christian Gnosticism is that there is a break between the Old Testament and the New.

[@Stevewilldoit96]

Are you on drugs? Marx famously called religion “the opium of the masses”, communism was strongly anti theism, Mao and Stalin and every great communist leader was athiest.

[@tsurugi5]

@@Stevewilldoit96because it would compete with their ideology, are you playing dumb or unironically this stupid?

[@noname-dp3gn]

This was in my opinion the most important video you have published. We need more voices to talk about some of these truths of our world. Truth must be told no matter how hard some find to accept it. No matter how much some people hate to hear it. No matter how "extreme" some find it.

[@dionysusyphus]

Syncrostic

[@petrmaly9087]

This is the first time I have ever heard that from someone in the Anglo-Saxon world. Here, in the Czech Republic, this is rather common opinion as we see christianity and wokeism this way, but it is rare to hear it in English.

[@douglas_fir]

@@petrmaly9087 It's mainly due to deracination. It's easier to see when you have a living ethnic heritage and history. America was founded by some of the most Jewish denominations of Christianity imaginable. So we've been faggot-oped into this larp of left vs right, when in reality it's not only just different shades of this abstract liberalism, but it's ultimately about tikkun olam 1.0 vs tikkun olam 2.0. We've lost most of our British(Brythonic, Saxon & Gaelic) folk ways and values since we've not only been separated from the isles for so long, but as I said before, the founders were puritan, so anything not Jewish(biblical) in origin is seen as satanic racial idolatry. When you're still in touch with your land, history, culture, spirits, and even Gods to an extent via the "saints", it's very easy to notice the parallels, because you recognize the ultimately foreign outside origin of it(christianity/wokeism).

[@Name-ib7wu]

@@petrmaly9087 He’s Irish 😂

[@petrmaly9087]

@@Name-ib7wu Ireland was under strong influence of the Anglo-Saxon culture for many centuries, part of the UK for a long time, the northern region is still part of the UK to this day. And the cultural references he makes are US-centric.

[@KaelDenna]

Lovely video! I knew I had to subscribe when I found myself clenching my teeth in fury and doing pushing ups halfway through lol

[@Michael.n17]

This is great man. Have had similar thoughts myself over the years so really appreciate this video

[@theskitchband]

I'm sharing this my guy. Beautiful

[@bjf9304]

This video is probably done in jest, though Edward Gibbon might have agreed with it. The problem is that Rome did not fall as we were taught in school. The western Empire crumbled, but the East lived on for 1000 more years and it was the East where Christianity was strongest. Charlemagne United much of the old Western Empire under Christianity and if the Byzantine elite had allowed him to marry Byzantine Irene, the Empire would have been reunited. And then there is the argument that Moscow is the third Rome since so much of Christian literature and culture was moved there from Constantinople to Moscow in anticipation of a Muslim conquest. As long as an ethos promoted the family as the cornerstone of society, there will be stability and growth. This woke ideology is anti family at its core.

[@Yanel5795]

Woke ideology is actually pro family, your definition of woke is wrong. You simply call anything you hate, woke. Which it has nothing to do with

[@henrywolf5332]

Correct. It’s the anti natalism of Rome and the woke of today that Christianity stands against. Go forth and multiply. You don’t hear that much anymore.

[@jackhallander6706]

The Eastern Empire limped and lingered on for 1000 more years, torn apart by constant civil war, religious infighting, palace intrigue, and constant Turkish and Arab raids. Hardly an example of Christianity strengthening the state.

[@bjf9304]

@@jackhallander6706 they lasted while the West fell. Despite constant threats from the outside, they endured. You don't limp along for 1,000 years. They also managed to convert the Rus and the Slavs.

[@ChristianLopez-r3b]

Rome did fall. Rome was the people of Rome. Anybody not of roman blood is a poser wearing the name and tradition as a larp to get notoriety and a sense of authority. It's like immigrants coming to the US or England and claiming that name. They aren't. Never will be.

[@sidwar8638]

the cycles of history, explained in such a fashion that my entire world view is questioned. do not stop this gentleman, the dissent is utterly needed , now more than ever

[@Damon_At_Forged_Faith]

Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈

[@SeanThomasCross]

One of the best videos I've seen in years.

[@chrisc7265]

I think this is conflating two things: the decadent stage of empire, where the heartland becomes ruled by the slaves, and Christianity. If Christianity were causal here you would not see the rise of many western Christian empires after the fall of Rome. Christianity contains wokeness/weakness within it, but it also contains strength. It is a full picture of the world. Societies are stronger when they care for the weak ---- this may be hard to see given our current cartoonish manifestations of wokeness, but it's true.

[@Tonixxy]

My man, all those empires you speak of barely practiced. The more Christian an empire was the more cucked and weak it got.

[@jotteredits]

@@Tonixxy the Frankish empire was pretty Christian.

[@chico9805]

​@@Tonixxy Yet, the Christian West conquered the entire world.

[@jotteredits]

@Regionaltyrann there is no such thing as ‘Christian law’ it changes in every historic context. It is not the same as Islam. It was definitely christian influenced though. (Less rights for female inheritance under the franks than under Germanic groups). Sure the succession laws were Germanic, but there is no such thing as a universal christian succession law. Regardless. The Frankish empire was definitely more Christian than the 3rd century Roman Empire. So the argument more cucked=more Christian makes no sense.

[@jotteredits]

@@Tonixxy the Spanish empire barely practiced Christianity???? ????? The Russian empire barely practiced Christianity🤣🤣🤣🤣 these are among the most zealous empires of any religion ever.

[@joaoescudo1561]

Nice, just found this. I've been making this argument to Dutton for years now and he agrees. Christianity undermined rome and it took 500+ years for them to modify it enough via right wing doctrine and cherry picking actual biblical text, to make it a viable, non suicidal religion.

[@uberboyo]

interesting, does he have a video where he discusses agreeing? - please write title not link as KZbin will block commet

[@joaoescudo1561]

@@uberboyo He has a channel called the Jolly Heretic and streams live on Mondays and Thursdays. He has guests on Thursdays. Both days are taken off youtube and put on odysee and bitchute. The closest thing he's had to this topic is probably David Skrbina on the Jesus hoax, and everything else is random conversations with superchats. His email is at the top of his channel in every video, and I sent him a link to your video and told him to invite you to the show. You can send him an email letting him know and mention my name to get things rolling. He will probably mention my superchat either today or next Monday.

[@KingdomOfJerusalem9]

Cope harder

[@KingdomOfJerusalem9]

The bible was written between 50-100 and then the council of niacea, then no nothing happened ur just coping, Christianity wasn't changed during the Roman empire

[@KingdomOfJerusalem9]

​​@@joaoescudo1561 what you said is simply not true (just like anything an atheist says) you realise that the bible and Jesus have proof and it isn't to control people or smh, no people accepted the truth

[@odinthomas2634]

"Cool it with the antisemitic remarks"

[@accountreality1988]

if there is a religion/movement a Judean is pushing into your civilisation it is for no good.

[@xShadowChrisx]

until people realize that all these sources of moral degeneration have the same authors and sources nothing will really change. Who wrote the bible? A group of rabbis. Who wrote the communist manefesto? A child to a long linage of rabbis.. Who were the bolsheviks again?

[@thefranken-thing]

They like it cool. Apparently they've had an aversion to heat for the last 80 years. Something to do with imaginary ovens or something. Idk. \_😐_/

[@thefranken-thing]

Whoa, the emoji dude on my last comment had his arm cut off. 😮

[@T12114]

As someone who studied history, your narrative is interesting, predominantly factual and very real for the day. People should take the religious connotations out of the early christian forced conversion of the late Roman Empire. It was entirely political in nature and brought an internal division to that society (just like the present day U.S.) that condemned and punished anyone that didn’t agree with it or wanted to hang on to the old values. It was embraced by the urban and political elites, in which riots would occur in the cities in which statues that represented the old gods and values were torn down and temples were pillaged without any consequence. Sound familiar? This woke/christian movement that inflicted the late Roman Empire was not the only reason for its collapse. That being said, it was a huge contributor. Not because of its teachings, BECAUSE OF THE INTOLERANCE to others who disagreed. Just like today’s woke movement, it caused a division in that society that allowed it to rot from within, before it collapsed to external forces.

[@ghengiskhan9308]

Ou do realise he admitted this was made up and for someone who studies history you'd know it was actually the Romans who were woke not the Christians

[@Tjalve-ic1kc]

@@ghengiskhan9308 The semites and the rest of the slaves first promoted wokeness and then Christianity after the moral had been broken down. Same as today.

[@littlebird3495]

This was a very thought provoking perspective! Thank you.

[@pengejarbintang]

Does Jesus, a Roman's George Floyd?

[@deku006]

OOO that could be accurate 😂

[@phs8014]

"he was nailed on the cross and he was screaming for 8:30 minutes straight" (BLM = black fist , Christianity = cross)

[@presidentpapillon2625]

probably he was

[@tsurugi5]

yes

[@liveforever141]

damn right he is

[@theoddone887]

The slave seeks equality. The master pursues excellence.

[@hxrx9670]

Excellence = Sainthood

[@Yanel5795]

Yes and now you will be the sl@ve

[@tommymarco]

wow, nice and truth,. says so much

[@Yanel5795]

@theoddone887 you think you are a master but your people will be slaves soon, your people came from the caves as n3anderthals, and you only took over because your father s@tan gave you the power. But judgment is coming

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

The master likes to smell his own farts. Newsflash Xanthus … you’re just a wage slave like the rest of us and you’ll never really be a “master”. Aesop was the slave and was always smarter anyway.

[@deuteroniusz9222]

After reading Nietzsche and thinking profoundly about his texts, this is the only conclusion one can get.

[@ostae]

A false and stupid conclusion

[@deuteroniusz9222]

@@ostae your own opinion. Nothing more.

[@ostae]

@@deuteroniusz9222 This is not my opinion but the Truth. But you are free to believe the writings in a man who ended up as he lived, miserably.

[@xShadowChrisx]

@@ostae any truth that requires you to be brainwashed as a child is no truth. No better than the woke commies indoctrinating our kids in the current year.

[@alechboy3578]

Nietzche was a free mason. Straight up biased.

[@josepheridu3322]

Slave Revolts happened centuries before Christianity took over Rome: - First Servile War (135−132 BC) - in Sicily, led by Eunus, a former slave claiming to be a prophet, and Cleon from Cilicia. - Second Servile War (104−100 BC) - in Sicily, led by Athenion and Tryphon. - Third Servile War (73−71 BC) - on mainland Italy, led by Spartacus. It seems Christianity actually took over the new established control rather than causing the revolts.

[@Tonixxy]

There were tens of people claiming to be prophets of god at the same time, one had the best story and magic sauce and rest is history

[@josepheridu3322]

@@Tonixxy Sure, Seems like they were filling a spiritual void left by paganism, rather than "fighting" or "subverting" it.

[@nightwatchman7482]

There are two kinds of war my friend. One fought with spears and swords and the other fought with morals and values. The second is by far the more pernicious type

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

Wow now! Let's not allow a few paltry facts get in the way of an ideological narrative!

[@monarchblue4280]

Not wrong, but when Christian's prompted slave revolts, it was drastically recontextualized into a larger picture of human nature and the condition of Roman slavery, rather than the previous ones that were more like slaves that were under material oppression/wanting a more advantageous position by forcefully fighting society. On top of the material struggle that the Christian's underwent to stop slave oppression in Rome, they added a new element that changed the perspective on human nature as well. Where previously, slaves fought for material gain, the Christian's considered slavery to be something disordered from its inception. This made Christian's be in opposition to the very worldview and economic lifeblood of the Empire (slave economics was the economic backbone of most classical civilizations, so Rome wasn't special or anything). These drastic changes in how Christian's viewed human beings (rooted in the Idea of humans being made in the Imago Dei) was far different from previous revolt movements.

[@rogueinsiderpodcast]

The Final Pagan Generation: Rome's Unexpected Path to Christianity - Edward J. Watts

[@uberboyo]

Really interesting

[@JamesOnen]

I think this speaks to the cyclical nature of Empires. No empire can last forever. You've seen the meme... 'Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.'

[@cerradin]

It's an interpretation on Nietzche's concept of slave morality

[@davidkeith5020]

Wow, that was ominous! Your Roman narrative truly foreshadows the current issues we face today. Thank you for this thought-provoking video.

[@elpsykoongro5379]

You have a poor understanding of history

[@MrNoxxta]

Too bad his narrative is wrong. The „middle class roman“ he described didn’t exist at all. Dude is just projecting current issues onto history with no regard for actual historical facts. Absolute joke

[@Dino_Medici]

The more I learn the more the title rings true

[@mikealvord55]

Then learn some more!

[@bryanutility9609]

@@mikealvord55 everything I see in modern Churches is bug man platitudes for obese tv watchers. Where’s the knights of Templar?

[@DestinyAwaits19]

We're not going back to Christianity. Women have more freedoms and rights and were not meant to stay in the house.

[@Anon1gh3]

Read Ceasar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill. The Histories by Tacitus. Agricola and Germania by Tacitus The Secret History by Procopius. The Story of the Goths by Henry Bradley. The Getica by Jordanes The History of the Anglo-Saxons v1-3 by Sharon Turner The Saxon Savior by G. Ronald Murphy, S.J. Ireland's Immortals by Mark Williams A Classical Trivium Education - Books on Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric - Which is rooted in ancient Pagan Greece. - Replaced in 1918 with "Taditional" education. More modern books for you to read: The Positive Philosophy by Auguste Compte Age of Reason by Thomas Paine The Founding Myth by Andrew L. Seidel

[@Anon1gh3]

@@mikealvord55 Do you see the difference between us?

[@hendriefr8917]

I don t agree with the so called conqueror/roman virtues but you made a very good point.The argument against the heroic virtues is not about moral superiority, is about cunning and stealth vengeance in form of moral superiority.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Infinite conquest of others is not sustainable. But continual conquest of the inner self and controlling its animal impulses is a lot more viable.

[@cslantz4020]

@@mirceazaharia2094 If the wolves threaten your home, you do not let them get stronger and kill your sheep unmolested. What you do is you grab your spear, you grab your brothers, and you go and kill the wolves that threaten your community. After all, is that not what one is meant to do? To protect themselves from the darkness? This is not another biblical quote; this is simple notions of strength and defiance against the untame who exploit the vulnerable innocent and wish to infest your home.

[@hxrx9670]

"No more brothers wars", yeah... f*ck that, just destroy your european neighbor and get into endless selfdestructive war profited by "foreign" bankers, that's the way!

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

Infinite conquest of others is sustainable.

[@moormanjean5636]

This video is incredibly powerful and the message contained takes bravery to consider. I for one have never heard Christianity compared to wokeism in quite this way, and to hear the historical dates and figures made it that much more real.

[@bashkillszombies]

I often use a similar argument when stating all art is inherently degenerate. People turn to art as far back as we forget the outrage attached. Most renaissance art was scandalous. Most roman statues were met with protests and even riots at such public degeneracy. But because we forget or don't look up to see the reaction it had to it's contemporary people most folks don't realise that the statue of David is literally the Pisschrist of it's era.

[@kksch2176]

Christianity in itself is an extremely subversive ideology, after all their origin is Judaism - hence Judeo-Christianity. The conservatism came later as a result of Christianity's alliance with the feudal nobility that ruled Europe, which was extremely based and still Pagan at heart. But if you look closely, conservatism was always just a facade, after all liberalism did grow out of the Christian ideology - all early liberals being devout Christians. You can even make the leap and say that Christianity reverted to it's original form and became the Wokeism of present day.

[@Alfred5555]

@@bashkillszombies It absolutely is not, what possible evidence do you have for this? You're just moving the goal posts to make it seem like EVERYTHING is just relative and on a spectrum. Michelangelo's David it is not comparable to the modern city council controlled public spending on a specifically politically correct art piece just to virtue signal.

[@Alfred5555]

@@kksch2176 I have the feeling that, while as you say conservatism might of been a façade for Christianity during the period of 500-1400AD you could say it was to gain and convert the Germanic areas, which is when Christendom really rocketed in power and started it's crusades and kingly "Jerusalem" esq rule over Europe. But I feel as though for Europe itself Christianity is just a facade too, it's never followed the letter of the bible, and when it has those people have often been banished or persecuted, Christianity has just been like a spiritual elitism that has claimed credit for everything good and pious that Europe has done. The spell seems to be breaking though, however maybe not in a good way, Christianity is coming to it's natural conclusion has Nietzsche described. .

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

'Stunning and brave' It really isn't.

[@neue01]

Finally someone else saying this. I’ve felt this for ages

[@violenceislife1987]

Seconded

[@alechboy3578]

Well roman paganism was just paganism. The western part of the empire was always paganism and heresy with catholicism. No wonder orthodoxy stayed longer.

[@stevealba4599]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 02:07 *🔍 Nietzsche argued that Christianity was the "woke movement" of the Roman Empire, challenging conventional views.* 05:44 *🏛️ Rome's demographic changes led to social and religious tensions, with immigrants and slaves bringing new beliefs and customs.* 08:35 *🛡️ Christianity was seen as a threat by traditional Romans due to its appeal to the disenfranchised and its undermining of Roman virtues.* 11:20 *💭 Christianity was perceived as a tool for the disempowered to seek vengeance against the Roman elite.* 16:26 *🚺 Upper-class Roman women were attracted to Christianity due to its perceived emotional appeal and rejection of Roman masculinity.* 18:02 *⚔️ Christianity's gradual infiltration of Roman institutions eventually led to the suppression of traditional Roman beliefs.* 20:07 *🏛️ The Christian revolution in Rome resulted in the destruction of Roman culture and the onset of a dark age.* 22:36 *📜 Rome's collapse revealed the true consequences of the Christian revolution, leading to a profound loss of civilization.* Made with HARPA AI

[@AVMONK3Y]

I think civilization is cyclical and people just go back and forth infinitely between golden ages and dark ages. Evolian and Hindu perspective. I love when people think they would be the Roman or Aristocrats if we lived in a materialistic caste system.

[@tysolbohan6446]

No evidence for this exists history isn't cyclical nor is it a spiral things continously improve but improvement is much less when access to education, mass communication, genetic editing with crispr human augmenting with cyber netics become almost impossible. That doesn't mean history works in cycles that's a shallow reading of the past

[@FazeParticles]

The problem is those dark ages usually outlast the golden ages.

[@nodruj8681]

Nice strawman

[@Noble_Savage]

There's definitely something to be said about the two movements having a large dedicated female following, and being fueled by resentment.

[@standupwindsordotca9349]

It's almost as if civilizations would stop falling apart if men stopped treating women like shit.

[@arktseytlin]

Allegory is a bit on the nose, but very much in the spirit of Animal Farm. Delivery is excellent though, thank you!

[@Ubermensch88.]

Phenomenal video Stef! You have some of the best content out there pal. Especially your Nietzschean playlist 😎

[@andreasauke5724]

Hes killing it 🔥

[@afşînmalatîturkî]

What did Nietzsche say about Islam?

[@jotteredits]

@@afşînmalatîturkî Islam is where his narrative breaks down, because the idea that Islam brought weakness is completely implausible, considering that Islam conquered one of the largest empires ever starting from a bunch of desert nomads in about 200 years.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

​​@@jotteredits But it can't go on like this. Every conquering empire, movement, religion or ideology is desperate to maintain at least one enemy, and find more areas to conquer. Eventually, it turns its aggression inwards on itself and self-destructs. The capacity for aggression is vital and must be used wisely. Letting it run unchecked results in suic-ide. Islam will reform into something more viable for its current age. It will have to, in order to survive. Its outward aggression is not going to be tolerated much longer.

[@L333gok]

That username 💀

[@Arnarstyrb]

Before Christianity took over, there was already a Roman emperor, Elagabalus, who was transsexual. Before him, emperor Nero around 50 AD called himself "wife", and his male lover "husband", they also had a eunuch in their bed who was the "mistress" of the night. None of this had anything to do with Christianity.

[@intelliGENeration]

Had everything to do with the creators of Christianity… Christianity was just the next (and most successful) operation. They tried 1000 ways to skin the cat. Christianity was the best way for the next 2K years… all-engulfing mal-conditioning. It is now time for an upgrade.

[@Arnarstyrb]

@@intelliGENeration Nero was not one of the creators of Christianity.

[@Arnarstyrb]

@@intelliGENeration Julius Caesar himself talked about how city life effeminated the Romans and how some German tribes banned luxury in order to stop degeneration among their people, they also blamed Greek culture for effeminacy and degeneracy among the once austere Roman people. It had little to do with religion in fact. Later the Goths invaded and conquered Rome as Arian Christians (followers of the heretic Arius), they were strong and virile then. They did not see Christianity as weak at least. The effeminate Romans were easy prey for them. In fact Christianity did reinforce the old austerity that so many longed for in Rome. Much of the degeneracy and vices, tolerated for centuries, simply vanished or went underground.

[@intelliGENeration]

@@Arnarstyrb He was the result of a culture promoted by the same club… however, before they found Christianity, they were trying different ways to destroy the morals of the society. Nero was an unsuspecting victim of such culture, created by their maneuvers (as you may not connect the “sex drugs and rock and roll” culture with the open border today, or the Ukraine racket)… Greece was a victim of such maneuvers. Egypt was a victim of such maneuvers… Babylon was a victim of such maneuvers. Those who change the way you think, will make you commit harm to yourself without knowing. Cultural hackers.

[@radfan7020]

luckily race is the real issue, not sexual bullshit. thinking the being straight is a "race" is why Whites are totally lost. you don't care if they all come here- as long as they want to screw our women!

[@theangrydweller1002]

Love seeing other who hold my own ideas making entire videos about them

[@intelliGENeration]

*Woke 1* - Christianity (Rome, turn the other cheek) *Woke 2* - Communism (Europe, give up wealth) *Woke 3* - Wokism (West, give up descendants) … and our children will inherit the world!

[@scientificreactions7938]

You forgot the part where Christian Europe dominated the world during 500 years of colonialism. Yeah that was so woke.

[@intelliGENeration]

@@scientificreactions7938 Is it the Tongs or the Hand that’s faulty of playing with fire? Creating a fake religion to make your competitors idle in the art of money making, it means you have monopoly over finances and can easily mobilize them to carry your water. Is it really Bush and America that ventured into Middle East? Is it really Ukrainians that want the war? Im sure you can think of other situations. Is it UA that really getting the billions of $? Proxy armies continue to this day… BLM, Anti Fa, “European” Celebrities, “European” Porn idols, DEI Committees in every Corporation, etc. Who destroyed the world? Why, the unchained loose morals of the West of course! When you want no recourse for dirty work, you use gloves… conditioned to be your tools and take the blame, for little money up front.

[@slynt_]

@@scientificreactions7938 It absolutely was woke, the entire justification was to "civilise the savages" (help the weak) and convert them to Christianity

[@dontspeaktoelectrohead1491]

@@scientificreactions7938 And what did they do? Oh they tried to teach the apes how to read the Bible. Those very same apes who today run rampant in our society.

[@Tonixxy]

​@@scientificreactions7938Christian in name. People ruling didn't give 2 fucks now or then

[@ekszentrik]

The recent book "The Final Pagan Generation" goes also into this (although it doesn't directly name wokeism by its name, but it also shows how the Christians nagged their way to power). Also reminder that we don't have to believe in our Old Gods -- we can just revive it like a cultural tradition, like as what Japanese Shintoism serves. If it's important at all, I am sure eventually future generations will also genuinely start to believe facets of it. You can easily reason that a certain god is just a metaphysical aspect of nature, vs. all these being united in a single god.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

"we can just revive it like a cultural tradition, like as what Japanese Shintoism serves" Pagan gods turned into anime girls and used to monetize the sexual repression of lonely men? _Big Tiddy Zeus_

[@violenceislife1987]

Asatru folk assembly

[@upamanyuray600]

Quite impossible. Infact that is, a very christian thing to say. The ‘pagan’ culture was a product of their divinity and it will never fit into a christian worldview. As someone who has already noted, the best it can be are marvel/dc movies. Totally divorced from its divinity, the ‘culture’ is made into a caricature. Philosopher Ram Swarup noted that any such ‘culture’ present in Abrahamism today are remnants of the ‘culture’ they so brutally destroyed.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

I was actually thinking about something like this earlier today. Even as a practicing Orthodox Christian, I wonder, is a Middle Eastern desert religion really the best thing for the European soul? Maybe I should hit up my ancestor's old home boy, Zamolxis. I'm sure he hasn't gotten any prayers or votive offerings in a good long time. I still greatly respect Jesus, though.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

​@@MK_ULTRA420 FUCK NO. I'm thinking we need to hijack the anime style (at least its style from the 80's) and make our own cartoons, with European and American cultural values (not the woke ones), instead of being force fed Japanese values. Anime really feels alien and weird to me nowadays, ever since I realized that it is, after all, a foreign export. I find most of it unwatchable, because of its different cultural values, and excessive sexuality. Very few of them are still watchable to me, the older ones more specifically, and very few modern ones, like Saihate no Paladin.

[@augcaes]

Interesting speculation, but a key point here is that Christianity from a very early stage had doctrine pretty well defined, reinforced constantly by traditions which its practitioners zealously guarded. The woke movement reinvents itself every two years, even its own adherents can’t keep up at times.

[@matriaxpunk]

This is just false, Christianity reinvented itself constantly, that's why it has infinite variants.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@matriaxpunk Not infinite, but only because you're overestimating Christianity.

[@gavinmccormick3658]

This is not really true. During the first two centuries of Christianity there absolutely was no consistent doctrine. It would have seemed far more like your second point, constantly reinventing itself and very hard to keep up with. The early movement is marked by constant debate and infighting over theology.

[@matriaxpunk]

@@MK_ULTRA420 you get my point

[@Skavenscribe]

The Cathars couldn't keep up, that's for sure

[@PoxPopuli]

Thanks for putting this out there. The comparison to the current conquest of “wokeism” is apt.

[@jegga9199]

Lots of strawmen and false comparisons between wokeism and Christianity, also reminder that pagans murdered babies and had very limited sexual ethics.

[@citoante]

No. Satan was bound from deceiving the nations, and the gospel spread. Now, the devil is loosed again for a little season to deceive the nations.

[@perrybb2]

What I'm gathering is that the modern day Roman Empire isn't the United States, it's the entire Western World: North America being the newer dominant Western half (aka the Latin portion) and Europe being the older Eastern half (aka the Greek portion). Just like with Rome, the Western portion (America, Canada and you can even include the entire Anglosphere in this) is almost certainly going to implode before the Eastern portion (Western Europe) does. So if you live in Europe, enjoy the fireworks over here. You're up next.

[@volusian95]

It's an awful analogy tbh, at least for anyone older than 15

[@Zero-qn8mk]

@@volusian95 lemme guess your Christian?

[@bonkersdonkers7381]

This might be too based for some of your viewers lol. It’s all true though. They just can’t open their eyes.

[@druidsstone3463]

​@huwhitedeath2651Or an ideology based on superstitions.

[@genesis667]

For people who understand the scriptures which would exclude you and the clown who made the video we know it's not even remotely true... When dealing with stupid people i'e you deception is a breeze!

[@alechboy3578]

This video is far from based but I am sure you are gonna learn this someday

[@d1ssolv3r]

@@alechboy3578 do you have proof, or do you just enjoy empty threats and lofty moral superiority? Maybe more people would listen if you argued from facts instead of "you're gonna burn in Dante's Inferno because I don't like your opinion!" Trust me, I want to believe in a higher purpose of this existence, but how am I to pick the thousands of angry teachings, all saying theirs is the right one with no proof?

[@zappbrannigan4170]

I feel sorry for the cattle.

[@drewbladen1668]

This is extraordinary and unique insight. Super interesting! Love the original thinking. It’s been years since I’ve come across something cutting edge and thought piercing

[@Arnarstyrb]

Also slaves were not spreading Christianity as whole households took the religion of the master in the Roman empire. Slaves were not free to travel between towns or walk the streets, saying things, spreading ideas, that could reflect badly on their masters. The slave idea is based on modern individualist thinking where each member of the household had his own religion and views if he wanted.

[@SovereignConversation]

I've heard the same in a few other cultures too, like Viking age norse

[@zekun4741]

actually there were a number of scandals where Christians were "converting" the children of pagan households without the consent of the parents

[@Hawaiian_Shirt_guy]

wait... this is a year old... how did I miss this?? This is beautifully written....

[@fakename7901]

All them angry jesusers tells me this struck a very important parallel into the forefront of the conversation

[@isaacloegering7388]

We are angry because this is a misrepresentation of what Christianity is. What we actually believe this is a real educated response. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6WVm6iNnp6knLc

[@user98344]

​@@isaacloegering7388Are you joking right?

[@tulfimbul2123]

If so, then we are in for a dark period

[@Homme_au_milieu_des_ruines]

Kali Yuga.

[@azirious666]

Yep

[@matusmotlo3854]

Atone for your ancestors' sins of colonizing the Muslims (never mind how Islam spread by sword across North Africa, Anatolia, and the Levant). It's only right the most common Brussels newborn's name is Mohamed.

[@Bashbekersjiw]

​@@matusmotlo3854 so back to 1400

[@volusian95]

Muh dark ages

[@AgeofPC]

I was saying this since 2017, Christianity was the wokeness of the ancient world.

[@bobjoneswof]

Nietzsche said this in 1800s. Cringe then and cringe now.

[@sillymesilly]

Frankish and Russian empire were not woke

[@DoctorDoomsPvP]

@@bobjoneswof *Jew-worshippers hate him. Deprogram slave morality with this one simple trick!*

[@alechboy3578]

@@bobjoneswof You do realise he was a free mason? He was biased from the start lmao.

[@bobjoneswof]

@@alechboy3578 Nietzsche was a freemason? I've read a bunch of his works and I didn't get that impression, is there anything to suggest this?

[@catholicmilitaryassociation]

What books have you been reading? Not a passive-aggressive dig, but genuinely intrigued to know where these takes come from. It sounds like a mirror of myself, during my edgy-atheist undergrad philosophy years. It doesn't hold up to scrutiny, and it doesn't ennoble anyone who believes it.

[@aesop1451]

So you don’t think the majority of early converts to Christianity were slaves, women, foreigners, and poor people? Over time Christianity absorbed Roman and Germanic elements, so it became more traditional. Look the Knights Templar and the Legend of the Holy Grail. Even so, the Byzantine Christian Empire was smaller than the original pagan Roman Empire. There’s a direct line from Protestantism to Enlightenment liberalism to feminism to civil rights to LGBT.

[@danieldigiuseppe7912]

Man. I've had this feeling most of my life. I've never heard anyone talk about it. Great video.

[@Damon_At_Forged_Faith]

Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈

[@_00_36]

ancestral memory

[@Lotterywinnerify]

The feeling that Christianity was Romes some religion? Christianity made Rome stronger. It purified them insofar as they allowed it.

[@lessthansion]

​@Lotterywinnerify ridiculous. Rome was strong without Christianity just as Greece was

[@Lotterywinnerify]

@Joe14Biden88 And Christianity didn't and built the greatest civilization the world has known.

[@alexios7147]

A lot of great discussion in these comments. I am an ethnic Greek so I was raised an Orthodox Christian but I became lukewarm and than came back to the faith over the last four years strong. But recently more and more the religion is really starting to look like an anti-life death cult. Let me explain: In Orthodoxy (The most traditional and "based" version of Christianity) the greatest gift you can get in this life is a holy death, the thing you are supposed to look forward to is death, remaining a virgin IS BETTER than having children, you are supposed to abstain from sex for at least half of the year with your wife (with especially traditional and pious Orthodox Christians mainy of them are encouraged to "stop having sex" until they can live "Like brother and sister"). Even the aesthetics of Orthodoxy is often based around skulls and dead bodies. The more I think about it, it just seems like a death cult. Not to mention the cuckold morality of "Turn the other cheek, love your enemies and submit to your masters". Also I don't believe that Jewish people are the "chosen race of God" or that Goyim are dogs (like Jesus says). I really want to learn more about neo-paganism as being Greek my ancestors have a strong mythos but I don't really know where to begin...

[@dejanjakobovic9803]

Oh, Orthodoxy is 'LE BASED' according to 15 year old Americans on TikTok? What part of Orthodoxy tells you to honor nature and heritage?

[@EspressoMonkey16]

Idk about orthodoxy but in Catholicism sex is 100% celebrated so long as it's chaste, that's to say within marriage, open to life, etc. Celibacy is also celebrated if you're called to it. If you're called to marriage and for some reason choose to be celibate- that's not good. Regarding turn the other cheek- this seems like cuck/weakling mentality ONLY IF youre thinking about the material world and material conflict. Christianity is the only religion really that emphasises that the war, the real war behind all of reality, is a spiritual war. In this conflict human beings are not so much the actors but the territory that the war is fought over. Winning a human soul over is an ultimate victory- while killing a human is a tragedy, as any destruction of God's creation is a win for Satan- violence then can only ever be a solution in rare circumstances where it's the lesser of two evils and there's no other solution (e.g. the whole of Christendom is threatened by invasion). This is why non violence and grace, for the ultimate sake of converting your attacker is actually an extremely violent move, except it's targeted at the real enemy, the evil forces within your attacker. If you strike back, you're playing into the enemy's hands

[@user98344]

Απλά δες τι είχαν να πουν οι τρεις ιεράρχες για τους Έλληνες.

[@bun197]

>the group with the highest european birth rates is a death cult keep lying through your teeth bro

[@themainmanborah]

@@EspressoMonkey16 Exactly brother, Catholicism is the truth.

[@dealvarado4783]

If christianity caused the end of the roman empire why did the eastern part survive a thousend years?

[@zekun4741]

if the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire then how come every country which based its laws and governments on the Roman Empire and Republic like France, America, Britain, copied the system of pagan Rome, mostly admiring Caesar and Augustus, and not the Byzantine system? This also includes medieval Christian kings who idolised Caesar

[@dealvarado4783]

@@zekun4741 Justinian was Roman

[@lalex9154]

@@dealvarado4783 So what? Justianian and Theodora still remain one of the best roman king-queen duo that existed in history and Eastern Roman Empire(Byzantine) >>>>>Western Roman Empire.

[@roasted9095]

@@zekun4741 Because they didn't.

[@Max-sd7lm]

​@@zekun4741 because Eastern Rome had like 1000 years more of completely separate development of legal system lol. During the collapse of western part their legal systems had only minor differences. Its not a valid argument you made their.

[@Kevin-tg4lv]

To me, Rome died with Caesar who was betrayed and cowardly murdered by a mob, Pompei death was also an absolute tragedy.

[@RedStar441]

Idk why you think it died with Caesar when Augustus who upheld his legacy.

[@Kevin-tg4lv]

@@RedStar441 It was never meant to be an Empire, Caesar didn't want an Empire if im not mistaken

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

Caesar shouldn't have been so entitled as to think others should hold unwaivering loyalty.

[@thebugman6864]

What about the guy that made Rome into marble?

[@theybecameus]

as a pagan Hindu I feel u bro

[@jotteredits]

You lost to Muslims in spite of remaining pagan🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 700 years of Muslim domination. Maybe if you had converted it might have done you some good in stopping them.

[@FahadKhan-uz7dr]

hindus are not pagan, chaddi thinks european pagans are partb of akhand lund

[@raw_dah]

What are your beliefs?

[@theybecameus]

@@raw_dah I am a Hindu( i.e practicing hinduism

[@rustyshackleford4761]

Islam is the worst if Abrahamic religions. Good luck

[@hahahahahha8458]

Christianity was indeed Rome's woke movement. I watched your interview with Adam Green, it was great! wish you'd go on there again. Love your videos dude.

[@affable8696]

Adam Green who runs away as soon when you ask him whether Jews consider Jesus Messiah? That Adam Green? The subversive cryptoJew who admitted he cares more about dismantling Christianity than Zionism Adam Green? The same one that ignored centuries of Christian persecution of Jews? Who codify them in the Bible as cursed and of Satan? I think you should reevaluate what people you're following, because they do not have your best interests in my mind. Stop being lazy and stop being taken advantage of by people who thrive on your ignorance.

[@ghengiskhan9308]

Uberboyo said himself in a interview with church of eternal logos this video wasent made to be taken seriously and was more a collection of thoughts that he had about a roman at that time period. But no it was not romes woke movement it was actually the Romans who were woke if you know your history.

[@user98344]

​@@ghengiskhan9308You are the one that doesn't know history here

[@ghengiskhan9308]

​@@user98344what are you blaming me for ghe creator fo the video said it was made up

[@user98344]

@@ghengiskhan9308 His character is, but the information on his video isn't, he has cited his sources in his comment.

[@NegiTaiMetal011]

I was raised Roman Catholic and I've been questioning religion over the past years. This made me realize things more and surely religion itself needs a lot of improvements and updates. This is one of the reasons I'm beginning to turn to others like Neopaganism. This is quite a food for thought.

[@SkaldBard]

Don't apostasise, my friend. Christianity was nothing like the woke movements of today - it is not an inversion of morality as we see in the modern west, rather an objective standard of morality with the weightiness of fulfilled prophecy. It is a rejection of hedonism and materialism and calls on us to embrace family, tradition, discipline. Christ merely used Rome to spread His message. You're baptised in a tremendous tradition that has been unbroken for thousands of years, and your ancestors were also a part of it - don't break the chain now!

[@SkaldBard]

@Sean Michaels We certainly embrace pleasure and leisure so long as they are within the realms of the natural good, whereas sloth, gluttony and lust are disordered manifestations of man's natural desires and fundamentally lead to negative physical and spiritual consequences

[@davidcomtedevienne8742]

What do you mean by improvement and updating? Integrating LGBTQ, BLM, WOKE AND CANCEL CULTURE ideologies into that religion? These ideologies are aimed to destroy everything thing including paganism, the traditions, the ancestral memories, the natural order. When you do that, when you castrate a whole generation of young men and women, that's when barbarians from foreign shores, will take over and bring back the natural order. Wake up, don't be naive.

[@Jordan_Morris19]

Food for thought we should not feed ourselves the thoughts of uncertainty seems easier said than done maybe impossible to some who direct the perspective in a way that farther separates you from truth people want worldly things but to not be apart of the world and vice versa

[@BobaFatt182]

Catholics are already pagans

[@tony_reinhart]

Roman empire: I'm just the best, half of the world is mine, how powerful I am! Poor fishermans club: **destroys it without any force or muscle power, but with pure Love and compassion, willingly dying on crosses** Roman empire: REEEEE, that's against the rules!

[@mentat5314]

Christianity arose in the same way wokeism did by the elites switching their allegiance overnight and becoming crypto-Christians and then slowly normalizing it and cancelling everyone that spoke out against it until it became the state religion. You think all those persecution stories are actually real?

[@dontspeaktoelectrohead1491]

Same could be said about the Communists destroying Christianity in Russia. Hence why now they have Stalin and Lenin as idols

[@luzebel6882]

Pure love and compassion? You mean when they murdered and tortured the greek and roman pagans who went to their temples and who still worshipped their gods? When they destroyed their temples and turned them into brothels and stables?

[@tony_reinhart]

@@luzebel6882 But where did you read about that event of torture and murder?

[@mastery2811]

@@luzebel6882 The Christians endured 300 years of persucution and oppression.... they Defeated Rome without swords

[@jenking1000]

This was so good! I had a philosophy teacher who used to fully put himself into both sides of a thought experiment. You could never tell his real stance on anything. And it was amazing because you could fully immerse yourself and see through the eyes of the “other “. It’s incredible way to learn and understand. Well done, sir.

[@ivan2795]

You nailed it. I've been thinking the same increasingly in the last couple of years. But you put it together so eloquently. Well done Stef!

[@hibernianperspective6183]

One of the more radical realizations, or epiphany's if you prefer, you'll have as you seriously consider religion, or the 'woke' march through the institutions is how uncannily similar it is to the rise of Christianity, when the penny finally drops as to the true nature of the cult of Christ you will understand how alien it is to Europe.

[@bobjoneswof]

Lose weight?

[@Cherb123456]

Indeed

[@themainmanborah]

Ah yes, not a balancing mechanism that made Europe even greater than Rome ever was - - but "an alien" to Europe. The European masculinity tempered with the flames of the Christian femininity is what created Europe that was able to rule the World.

[@violenceislife1987]

You said what I have been thinking, and done so eloquently. Bravo. The Golden one sent me.

[@chairboyd3524]

Just amazing work, can actually feel the revivalism we need come through in this work.

[@purple-lu2pj]

I would recommend the book The Final Pagan Generation by Edward J. Watts. I'm halfway through it and there is quite a bit of similarity between these old times and the modern world.

[@violenceislife1987]

Human nature doesn't change.

[@JinKee]

'It's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion,” Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. “Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?” Islam was a Männerreligion-a “religion of men”-and hygienic too.

[@sarahhale-pearson533]

Tha Christian virus has always been a chameleon, contorting itself to find a way to the seats of power

[@d1ssolv3r]

An unfortunate theme across most religions. If you can't beat someone physically, beat them ideologically. Both are wills to power in different venues. Only a holy man could have higher status than a king.

[@bun197]

or religion is just natural to human beings and secularism (currently causing a complete collapse) isn’t

[@calebgamer1720]

Yet all the nations today aren’t ruled by christians LOL

[@VSM101]

@@d1ssolv3r no just abrahmic religion

[@dionysusyphus]

someones been reading "twighlight of idols/The AntiChrist" and "The History of Morality/Ecce Homo" lately too;). love ya boyo, its an interesting thread 'pon Arachne's web we've been tugging isn't it...hahah

[@Ronnied74]

Sir I love what you are teaching here. I just subscribed to your channel this morning and Im taking notes for inspiration. Keep doing what you're doing. You've enlightenment me greatly.

[@Damon_At_Forged_Faith]

Bro needs to submit to being a gay sex slave for a mighty Roman Pagan Elite, after all sodomy was perfectly accepted before Christianity in Rome and might makes right, so you'd need to accept your place in society. Remember might makes right 😂🌈

[@caiorossi4776]

Meanwhile, in the real world, the Roman empire had coups, which led to internal instabilities, while it was being invaded by Barbarians long before Christians were noticeable. And, after the fall of Rome, Christianis created a new empire in Byzantium, which lasted another 1 thousand years, which is not compatible with the woke culture.

[@huginn1879]

the barbarian invasion was not the cause of the fall of the roman empire, but the result. I would say mass immigration and decadence in romes elite was the main reason. but also an empire that was just too wide spreed to be naturally stable.

[@originalpastaman5470]

Byzantium was founded on Constantine who was an Arian Christian that adopted Christianity for the sake of the survival of the empire. This delusion that everything was falling apart, but then Christianity swooped in and saved everything is nonsense. The Roman elite simply assimilated yet another religion and transformed it.

[@aesop1451]

The Byzantine Empire was much smaller than pagan Rome and ultimately fell to Islam. Should we become Muslims?

[@caiorossi4776]

@@aesop1451 , the question should be: is his history right, or did he just make up one so that it fit his ideology?

[@aesop1451]

@@caiorossi4776 It is right. Why did the communist Soviet Union ally with the capitalist West against the Axis powers? Concerning wokeism, Christianity is only opposed to LGBT. In theory, it’s okay with mass immigration (antiracism) and allowing women to vote (feminism). It’s like classical liberals being against progressivism, even though progressivism is the natural conclusion of classical liberalism.

[@zealgaming8161]

Rome spent millennia trying to conquer Europe. Then Christianity conquered Europe in a few hundred years. With the west reigned by tyrant after tyrant, there was no progression. But neither where Christianity any progression but a side-step. The will to power could not synthesize with Plato's vision. But Christianity had the spark of acceptance towards new ideals that could, so when the two meet, it ignited into the renaissance. And rest is history, a volatile concoction indeed.

[@neovxr]

Christianity was metapolitics. That's why. The conquer was by soldiers and (corrupt) friars.

[@josepheridu3322]

Christianity may have been the first ideological empire after all. Now, All modern history is about ideological empires... communism, capitalism, democracy, etc.

[@radfan7020]

lol no.

[@dontspeaktoelectrohead1491]

The Romans were nearly able to discover and harness the power of steam before Christianity. When it took power, they forgot even the most basic things like making concrete.

[@josepheridu3322]

@@dontspeaktoelectrohead1491 So? Medieval Christian people developed other more useful technologies for their lifestyle, such as using wind (grind) and hydro power. Steam power was not used widely until far later when metallurgy was developed deeply. Historians agree the myth of Medieval Times being dark was created by Protestants against Catholicism, which is ironic considering atheists and pagans use that arguement against Christianity as a whole now.

[@AlexanderJH]

Found you through Varg Vikernes ❤

[@msylvini]

I love your channel!! Your voice and narration is so unique. As a believer in Jesus, I appreciate your mind and the perspective it brings forth.

[@uberboyo]

Thank you, I appreciate you - godbless!

[@SirHarryFlashman]

The Roman farmer is entirely correct. Christianity is spiritual syphilis that rots the minds of men. Even so-called 'muscular Christianity' is undermined by Christian teachings about forgiveness and love for one's enemies. Alfred the Great once refused to execute a Viking chief called Hastein despite him raiding Wessex. After Hastein had been forgiven and released by the pious Alfred, he once again raided Alfred's kingdom. A pagan or just a more secular-minded king would have had the good sense to hang Hastein instead of forgiving him.

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

It was. It truly was Wokism is a very secularized form of Monotheism Excellent video. It seems that I'm not the only one to have thought about it

[@AntonioBrandao]

Thanks. I’ve been saying this for a long time. Glad you made it into a video, and with stellar execution.

[@orenji-sama514]

This rural roman pagan really lived for hundreds of years

[@jotteredits]

Bro lived from like 200bc to 400ad

[@wegfarir1963]

@@jotteredits More like 30CE-580CE

[@hxrx9670]

In the form of local superstition.

[@_rhodium]

bro can speak yapanese

[@royalhybrid4524]

Man, thought provking aside, you make that coat look iconic.

[@elainesabatino7467]

I agree! Our ancient traditions were stolen from us, and our ancestors were forced to convert to Christianity.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

Yes, convert back to Paganism and return to the age of the 5 good emperors.

[@kanzu2080]

It is an interesting, charged narrative, yet most ironically presents no much case of historical accounts, epistemological bases for the conclusions given and least of all, a clear methodology that can point towards any sufficient reason to take on such matters with philosophical or academical seriousness. None the less, I think the propposition is a great excercise of thought towards the audience, and I must say, the art and transition is marvellous.

[@yendevus1747]

Angry jew 😂

[@aidansumner8364]

A real return to tradition would embrace the folklore of our ancestors and reject Semitic monotheism.

[@rhett3185]

What if I told you we ancestors didn’t worship the pantheon as Gods but venerated them as great ancestors? What if I also told you that our ancestors did worship an single all encompassing God? Read the Oera Linda Book.

[@ShareefusMaximus]

This is this channel's most important video, despite the crying of the tradcons this will inevitably cause.

[@Mart-Bro]

Dude this is really fucking good jesus man well done making this, I love it

[@JackDSquat]

Uberboyo, you should really do a video with Jay Dyer. He’s very based and knows Christian history very well. Maybe y’all could discuss and compare paganism and Christianity

[@uberboyo]

I’ll look him up! There’s many great Christians out there who promote health and Life

[@yhvhsaves5197]

Dyer's attitude is similar to that of Sam Harris or Neil Degrasse Tyson's. The lack of humility makes his material almost unbearable to watch.

[@radfan7020]

the human Ambien pill. zero hot takes.

[@JackDSquat]

@@yhvhsaves5197 dyer only gets in his showy attitude when he’s debating disingenuous individuals, most of the time he appears to be quite respectful and is very entertaining. And he has much more charm than Harris or Tyson could ever muster

[@theoriginal-namegnosis417]

I have followed him and his wife's content, and even met them in person at an event. I could not heartily disagree more. To compare him to Sam Harris or Neil DeGrasse Tyson is fallacious. Sometimes he can lack patience with certain people who actually are a test of his patience, but he's overall pretty friendly, as eccentric as he may come across to some.

[@Rayder4Life]

this is an amazing video, ive always thought the same that christianity is the religion of the weak and everywhere a weak person has any power they destroy everything in their self pity and decadence

[@ihatetheantichrist2752]

If you look at modern western christianity i can see why you'd say so. But his historical and religious understanding is so poor it's not even funny. The eastern roman empire was the longest lasting empire on the face of the earth and it was christian.

[@Dd-ks2fm]

​​​@@ihatetheantichrist2752 let's be honest though none of these "Christian" kings were really true believers. Christianity was a tool for them. You see that with the papal states half the popes of the middle ages had kids out of wedlock. They didn't really give a fuck about god and Jesus. power was the king of kings.

[@doug8982]

@@ihatetheantichrist2752 they were barely hanging on for 1000 years whereas pagan Rome expanded for 1000 years.

[@Lotterywinnerify]

Conquering barbarian tribes is hardly a sign of Roman greatness. It was their National repentance that cemented their legacy before God.

[@Arlecchinofan97]

@@doug8982Factually untrue, Justinian did more than any Western Roman Emperor could even dream of, while Constantine the Great restored the Empire that was in decline for hundreds of years simply by embracing Christ, being a great military commander and establishing the Pax Romana. None of these pagan deities have any power besides what people think in their minds otherwise they would have proven themselves.

[@Requiem100500]

This is incredibly well made

[@Wiemcc]

Because it is paid propaganda

[@HeroicIdeal]

ROMA AETERNA!!! 😤

[@salutic.7544]

wow. Ur rly bringing Historicism to a new level

[@arcadeoutpost]

Great video, thanks

[@sardunai952]

I wished more anti-woke, conservative Christians would understand this.

[@rolandrush5172]

1:50 That’s what I have been saying for years. Socialism is a branch of Christianity, just a slight shift in perspective of where God is.

[@xx-or8qx]

Pretty fun thought experiment.

[@dealvarado4783]

Christianity was by no means the religion of slaves or the poor. There are ample examples of rich and intelectual romans converting. Im not christian btw.

[@imperatorscotorum6334]

He covers that also, but it started off amongst the poor and slaves

[@ahmed25janegy]

That Ben Shapiro impression 5:05 Lmaooo

[@zappbrannigan4170]

That was hilarious

[@NuYiDao]

Truest thing I've watched in literally years.

[@beardandtasche4072]

Thank you for this take - I would pay good money for a whole series on similar themes - especially your thoughts on Jungian thought applied for Eastern ideas especially of the Vedic nature being an affectionato of the latter. Would love to support your efforts on a Patreon or equivalent. Much pleasure enjoying your video essay.