What if Ethiopia was a Superpower?

[@ciaotiziocaius4899]

Finally, a video talking about the Ethiopians without saying every three minutes "Italians", thanks

[@overomanlord2214]

Veramente hanno rotto i coglioni.

[@alexkefale5892]

Haha happy now?😃

[@ciaotiziocaius4899]

@@alexkefale5892 definitely

[@aboutallaroundtheworld9994]

That is your imagination thare is so many video about Ethiopia with out saying Italian

[@ciaotiziocaius4899]

@@aboutallaroundtheworld9994 I know but most of the times it's like this

[@petermann673]

Gotta disagree with the part on Portugal. Reason being? Prester John. Ethiopia was mythologized as being a legendary Christian kingdom out within the Musilim sphere in our timeline. And when the Portuguese found them, they believed Ethiopia were those mythologized people. Now, if instead they found an Ethiopia which was a thriving Christian kingdom which could go toe to toe with the Ottomans, they'd be very keen to ally and have the friendly ports en route to India. Whether that relationship blossoms or becomes a rivalry, there would be extensive contact which would probably advance their tech to be at least on par with the Ottomans circa the 1800s.

[@aeris5142]

Call it historical bias, but that's exactly what I was thinking.

[@innosam123]

Peter Mann The problem is that the Ethiopians themselves never heard of Prester John, and people eventually accepted that they weren’t. Because Prester John was just a myth.

[@innosam123]

NPC 19867 They didn’t in OTL, and there is literally no reason to assume they would in TTL.

[@ryhanzfx1641]

Or also the lost 12 tribes narative, there are also a group of Ethiopian Jews living there, since its also as you said prophecized, and those Portuguese encountering rather odd group of Jews, they would in some way give it a way as some sort of respectable kingdom

[@simretdaniel3697]

@@innosam123 haaaa i am from ethiopia i know aboutttttt thattt

[@byzantinemapper6145]

What if Persia wasn't conquered by the Rashiduns? (AKA: What if Zoroastrianism survived?)

[@اسمعشوائي-ه6ظ]

Most of the Islamic empires will be centered on Syria and Egypt. In addition to North Africa, Arab culture will be further influenced by Byzantine culture.

[@BoqPrecision]

Shia Islam will not take hold because coup by Abbasids against Umayyad relied on recent Iranian converts to Islam.

[@muhammedal-awadi8879]

@@BoqPrecision Abbasids weren't shias lmao

[@zortha3941]

Has someone who's big into the proto-indo-european religions I actually looked into Zoroastrianism I have to say by the time of the sasanians. The religion was in a similar state of entropy to traditional Roman religion during it end and strangely American evangelicalism in the sense that it has a hyper materialist interpretation of it's holy text, just look at the political disaster that was Mazdakism.

[@BoqPrecision]

@@muhammedal-awadi8879 the Abbasids weren't but majority of their supporters in Khorasan etc would come to be Shia (as a political statement against Umayyad tyranny).

[@caolanfeely4317]

What if Europeans had a better staple crop other than wheat like what if the potato was naturally occurring in Europe

[@TapOnX]

underrated suggestion

[@caolanfeely4317]

TapOnX yeah I’d like to medieval Europe have as big or possibly bigger populations than China and India and how it would effect colonisation

[@TapOnX]

@@caolanfeely4317 Also don't forget that this change would disproportionately benefit the non-Mediterranean Europe, leading to OP Celts, and Germanic peoples.

[@caolanfeely4317]

TapOnX yeah that to I was just thinking of colonial outcomes

[@Docwilson91]

Well, there will certainly be a whole lot more vodka

[@BoqPrecision]

Ethiopia was a superpower for a brief period from 2nd century AD to the rise of Islam...then the silk trade relocated from the Indian ocean to the Mediterranean Sea and Persian Gulf.

[@uselesspodcasts2722]

Boqoreh the kingdom of Axum?

[@BoqPrecision]

@@uselesspodcasts2722 correct...

[@grubbybum3614]

I believe in Ethiopia. If they had access to the sea, throughout the last century, then Ethiopia would probably rival South Africa in industrial output.

[@mragame8442]

But it wasn't called "Ethiopia" back then. It was called Kingdom of Axum only. The current Ethiopia is only 120 years old.

[@OrthodoxProgrammer_Hustle]

nope ur wrong , even the name 'Ethiopia' is in the bible which makes the name to have i think as old as the bible not 120 years brother

[@J4R0D]

Well, if they brought out the Ark of the Covenant, they could just death ray any enemy armies into dust.

[@Docwilson91]

Jared Mueller well if I break out my trusty crystal skull all of America will be mine MUAHAHAHAHAHA

[@lilpapi2785]

If Jesus was God he wouldn't be crossed, dummy think be4 you speak 😏

[@DannyBoy-wq9ze]

Yeah the Ethiopians should use the Ark of Covenant against Italian invasion in 1936 !. Princes shall come out of Egypt, Ethiopia shall soon stretch forth out her hands to God !.

[@ራስዳርጌ]

That’s different! We are talking about the sacred holy arc of the covenant.but, you’re talking the shenanigans of witchcraft of west Africa and your people 🤣

[@J4R0D]

@@ራስዳርጌ 1. east Africa 2. It's a joke 3. I was referencing that the last somewhat credible placement of the Ark was is Ethiopia because it was the last Eastern Orthodox church. Supposedly they have it, but refuse to allow anyone to see it.

[@uselesspodcasts2722]

I hope at least one person from ethiopia sees this. If so, greetings from Germany

[@henokteshome1079]

Hey there , Ethiopian here.

[@uselesspodcasts2722]

Henok Teshome Nice, if you want to, message me on Discord (MarlonHG#8265). I would love to ask you a few questions

[@rudwanroni7923]

@D B hello fellow east African bro somali here 🇸🇴 i hope both somalia and Ethiopia the best

[@rudwanroni7923]

@D B yeah its ashame about whats happening when i think we could easily be on par with the european countries ethiopia has so much history and already and amazing military and somalia so much natural resources. Nice talking to you my christian brother 🇪🇹🇸🇴 and happy early Christmas

[@rudwanroni7923]

@D B yeah man we are ancient brothers divided by European borders and yeah i know a lot of somalis can be judgemental but they are angry with the whole ogaden stuff that is in the past. I hope maybe one day Somalia can just buy ogaden off of ethiopia There are so many ethiopians where i live and they are so nice and i always confuse them with somalis they are so similar! Ethiopians and somalis are two of the oldest peoples in the world and can i just thank you on behalf of somalia for your delicious injera!! 😋

[@ethanwmonster9075]

ethiopia's population is gonna get so big that it still has a good chance of being relevant in that area of the globe.

[@grubbybum3614]

@King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers yes, if they had access to the seas, then the potential for Ethiopia is massive.

[@ethanwmonster9075]

@King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers which it can't because it has no valid reason to plus it's protected.

[@mragame8442]

@King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers In your dreams. You wont even last 10 more years. Ethiopia is in the brinks of collapse.

[@mragame8442]

@King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers Not haten , just stating the fact. Do you really think Ethiopia is capable of conquering outside its border ??? Ethiopia is full of different separatist groups. Its really hard to think it will continue as a country.

[@rudwanroni7923]

@King of Kings & Ruler of Rulers sorry man i love Ethiopians but its sadly true yes with Ethiopias government its soon going to collapse and i doubt could handle a war with djbouti or Eritrea not to mention somalia would get involved if you harmed djbouti

[@sauron7839]

*WHAT IF JAPAN BECAME CATHOLIC IN THE 16TH CENTURY?*

[@JP-rf8rr]

How about just kyushu, let's say the shimabara rebellion succeed. Lets say some sympathetic Europeans decided to use their ships to supply hara castle with food and maybe some decent weapons. If so then they could have very likely won. I mean if they could hold off 200,000 professional soldiers with farming tools and being starved imagine if they had food and semi decent weapons. From here the Japanese government might figure the fight isn't worth it and decideds to have Kyushu be a puppet state, absolutely loyal but able to govern themselves (like legalizing Christianity) the rebels would probably take that deal.

[@WhatifAltHist]

I have duly noted this, however I need to do more research on this topic. If you can recommend any books, I would be happy to read them

[@myohmy9000]

Shimabara gang

[@eb1247]

RIP 1542

[@JP-rf8rr]

@@eb1247 Are you referring to this? books.google.com/books?id=vWFBAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA686&lpg=PA686&dq=rip+1542&source=bl&ots=4g_l5QNuHW&sig=ACfU3U1BCswI-jHTiPIxqv8CtlZ6PrU9Eg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi9jpGv-u3lAhUQOq0KHW_8B-4Q6AEwCHoECAcQAQ

[@goldenrepublic6848]

What if Liberia was a successful country and was successful expanding into Africa

[@jonascreibou6009]

you just said what would happen

[@goldenrepublic6848]

Jonas Creibou wdym

[@doggerlander]

It would be a successful country that successfully expanded into Africa

[@goldenrepublic6848]

Jonas Creibou ohhhhhhh nvm

[@minnesotarascal7453]

Emperor Butt Naked

[@eyob94]

Not long ago the Ethiopian and Japanese Empires almost join with a marriage that truly could’ve reshaped the world

[@AMR_k400]

True that

[@joelGi]

When?

[@AMR_k400]

@@joelGi shortly before ww2 italy quickly invaded Ethiopia to stop it from going japans way ,japan and Ethiopia were doing their own stuff intentionally not interacting with Europeans as a race battle since europeans kinda looked down on everyone at the time

[@joelGi]

@@AMR_k400 Damn that would have been interesting I only knew that we interacted with the Persians but Japanese wow imagine the strange alliance if only we industrialized fast between 1900-1930

[@AMR_k400]

@@joelGi it would've been interesting to say the least

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

Ever since starting the Dune series I’ve been fascinated with how climate, geography and ecology affect human civilizations and this channel in turn has become fascinating to me

[@Wi-Fi-El]

My great great grandma lived in Ethiopia for a few years. She went there as a part of a 1910 mission trip with her first husband. I'm not sure what they did, but there are records of great great grandma teaching english and french, and her husband worked in construction, but idk what he built

[@realjo733]

wow!

[@byzantinemapper6145]

I think the Ethiopian ruler at the time of the Scramble for Africa would think this: "Hmm, so I want to be like the 300 years of good leadership we had in around 300-500AD." "And I want to save the people and lead my nation to greatness!" "But the Europeans are so ahead of us..." "I have an idea. LET'S INDUSTRIALIZE, YEAH!"

[@kingced741]

He did he quite literally was slowly industrealizng when Italy attacked then they were stagnant for a little bit because Europeans refused-trade/kept giving them outdated guns and stuff

[@MsPaintMr]

t. every nation in the Middle East until the 80s

[@eho6380]

@Sander Skovly He tried after the Invasion and Occupation, but he failed since he didn't put enough effort into it. During his reign, Ethiopia went through a lot of drama.

[@cs0345]

@@eho6380 Its a shame that Ethiopia lost such a historic monarchy

[@cs0345]

@@kingced741 The outdated stuff is still good enough for defensive warfare

[@ethanwmonster9075]

ethopia is also considered by many to be the birthplace of humanity or more specifically homosapiens.

[@velnz5475]

@Mø Nälayé well, was considered and is considered. We really say the rift valley, but theres theories from a salt flat in northern Botswana to northwestern Ethiopia.

[@hildkiin]

Is that maghreb theory still relevant or is it outdated

[@alphagamer9505]

Probably not homosapiens,but humanity

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

@@velnz5475 He refers to the fact, that divergence (outmigration) might have occured earlier, than previously thought. Ie. we dont know for sure, if the first men left Africa as anatomically modern humans or possibly developed separately in roughly convergent matter. Evidence is incoclusive.

[@agereneshayalew593]

@@alphagamer9505 remember lucy

[@matthewegan5281]

*They never got Ethiopia*

[@m1k3yyJ]

they did for a bit

[@Cybernaut551]

@@m1k3yyJ Fortunately for Ethopia, history wouldn't see it that way.

[@ዮስ]

@@m1k3yyJ nope that's occupation

[@m1k3yyJ]

@@ዮስ occupation means they got ethiopia dumbass

[@daviroza4700]

@@ዮስeh your everywhere

[@NikhileshSurve]

During colonialism Ethiopia (or may be it was called Ethiopian Empire) did sought to become a significant non European/western power in geopolitics & was apparently taking inspirations from the Empire of Japan. If that had succeeded instead of them having to deal with Italians on their border may be things could've been different. Even today if Ethiopia had coastal access & consisted the territories of Eritrea, Djibouti & may be also Somalia (all of whom has common ethnicity with parts of Ethiopia) their economic growth would've been much greater than it is now.

[@danielyeager6666]

What went wrong??? Why couldn’t Ethiopia be successful like Japan??

[@NikhileshSurve]

@@danielyeager6666 From what I know they didn't had a peaceful time like Japan did to start industrialisation. They were kept busy by Italians who tried to colonise them, while Japan got busy in wars after they started industrialising themselves. Who knows how different things could've been if Ethiopia had the time & opportunity to industrialise during that period.

[@theeelite8618]

As an Ethiopian there’s nothing called Ethiopia the country if anything will be the first country to fall in this century if anything United Somalis would be the future of the Horn of Africa and will be at some point there’s nothing called Ethiopia I’m Ethiopia and every other Ethiopian don’t even believe in Ethiopiansm

[@shirtpants4203]

@@danielyeager6666the ethnic diversity is a big part of it. Very few empires throughout history have managed to successfully rule over diverse people without marginalizing them and bringing the society as a whole down. Ethiopia was going to host the African national conference and be head of the East African confederation but it’s recently been engulfed in a civil war with its ethnic Tigray minorities in a poorly governed vessel region

[@ዮስ]

@@shirtpants4203 ethiopia has a fast growing economy and development. After all the only reason why we were never colonized was because of our unity so idk why we can't industrialize

[@JP-rf8rr]

I wonder if central African kingdoms would be influenced by Ethiopian culture. And if the crusader kingdoms try and make contact with this Ethiopian empire as some form of alliance against a common enemy. Even if not, I'd imagine much more Ethiopian mercenaries present in the crusader armies.

[@JP-rf8rr]

@Mø Nälayé So were many others. Byzantines had their own interests, as did Armenias, and the principality of Antioch. Didn't stop them from working together. Hell, the crusaders tried to form an alliance with mongols till it blew up in their face. So it's likely Ethiopia and the kingdom of Jerusalem would form a casual alliance knowing that they'd be weakening a common enemy in different areas. This especially could have happened during the rule of Baldwin the 4th since reynald was doing raids in the red sea. In fact the kingdom was going through a succession crisis trying to marry sibylla or her half sister to someone competent. Considering that kings of Jerusalem regularly married foreigners from byzantine empire and Armenia. It wouldn't be suprising if a competent Ethiopian Nobel or general was a candidate to form an alliance.

[@JP-rf8rr]

@pokezee king-wolf But if in this hypothetical situation. The Ethiopians would still have access to the red sea and would frequently use it. There is no way the crusaders states wouldn't make contact with this Ethiopian empire, especially during Baldwin's reign.

[@JP-rf8rr]

@pokezee king-wolf Didn't saladin use nubians soldiers in the third crusade?

[@JP-rf8rr]

@D B There was Ethiopian mercenaries and soldiers in the crusader states, that's true. But in this hypothetical situation Ethiopia would be much more powerful and connected so the number of Ethiopian pilgrims and mercenaries would significantly increase compared to our timeline.

[@brianfrommars]

我喜欢耶稣JP *Loads Up CK2*

[@hanoi9316]

What if Julius Caesar survived ?

[@johndevries7397]

Persia would probably have fallen to the Romans, albeit briefly. Caesar had plans to invade Persia and was almost ready but then he was assassinated. Also, Marcus Anthonius might have been defeated easier. I think it's safe to say that Rome would have much more power

[@zepeabutftw]

If this isn't about what if he survived the massive stabbing and made a full recovery then what's the point?

[@ronjayrose9706]

RIP Persia and Dacia

[@fildariusv7045]

Zepeabut FTW A most “realistic” way of him to survive would have been: 1. The Plot to murder him never occurs. 2. Some of the conspirators ended up not betraying him and helping Julius. 3. Somehow he manages to avoid death by escaping.

[@vex3488]

General F Crazy Way: By some act of luck every stab occurs in a non vital region and blood loss is able to be stopped. This could than be spun as the gods themselves favoring Caesar, sparing him from such a cruel fate.(stupid but unique alt history maybe)

[@davemusic27]

The next superpower -ETHIOPIA

[@JustinianG]

I think you'd like this itmeline I made. it's basically the Modern Greek equivalent of this one. I don't make Greece a super power but it ends up much richer than in our timeline and I expanded it's borders to the size of tunisia. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKalYYmPdt6sp8k

[@EverettBurger]

The dam will certainly help

[@ananiabebe6329]

@@EverettBurger don't forget about the 4bn oil refinery built in the ogaden region when its at full capacity we wil make over 8b dollars a year from selling oil when the civil war stops

[@Isari301]

🇦🇲🤝🇪🇹 Oriental Orthodox brothers :)

[@ericjohnson7234]

Most likely not. Given the region it is in, but a major player no doubt

[@selihom]

I have watched this video 5 or 6 times throughout the last year. It's heart warming to hear what my country could have been.

[@Ethiopian_Mapping]

My home country is Ethiopia to

[@pinkmann8399]

you can still be it, bro! I believe in ethiopia as an american, i cheer for you

[@osedebame3522]

I can't remember where I saw it but I remember a scenario where Ethiopia modernizes like Japan and builds a big Navy and fights with it in WW2.

[@danshakuimo]

Sounds like Ethiopia in a strategy game. Their best chance historically would've been getting tech from Portugal (basically like Japan early on, until they got tech from other countries as well), and industrializing from there. Not sure if they have good access to farmland for industrial agriculture and iron for ships and weapons though. However the fact they are tucked away where they are is gonna make it difficult to keep up with European tech unless they made their own innovations independent from European technological progress.

[@eyerusalemb3369]

@@danshakuimo you will see in the next 10 years. It will be magic

[@zephaniahdejene1746]

Fall out?

[@amehak1922]

At one point centuries ago, an Ethiopian king warned an Egyptian emir to stop persecuting the Christians there. Eventually the emir backed down when the king said any destroyed churches will be rebuilt with Meccan rubble.

[@robel8126]

That is how we got the cross

[@amehak1922]

@The Nova renaissance rastas (Jamaicans), not Ethiopians.

[@gypsysprite4824]

honestly 1: Ethiopia would probably adapted/industrialized to the bureaucratic warfare/technelogical disparity just based on how most christian countries ended up doing so...socially or religiously speaking, unlike many other religious/cultural groups which had become or already were wary and conservative, Ethiopia would have no reason be, seeing as it neither went to the slowly-fundamentalist islam (the only axial age religion near it (that wasn't christian), nor was it invaded by ze Mongols. it would also be more likely to industrialize due to a quite large merchant base/class, which tended to help things also, i could easily see the Portuguese mistaking ethiopia for the mythical Kingdom of Prester John (especially for how much Ethiopia would be prospering at the time), and decide that it may not be a good idea to attack, atleast immedietly (especially since, iirc they wanted to ally the kingdom of Prestor John to fight the Ottoblob)

[@worldfreedom1271]

@@yaqubmohamed1240 not because they were Christians but because they had the highlands of Ethiopia. Ethiopia was invaded so much in the last few centuries, but they used their knowledge of the highlands to their benefit. Tricking armies into going into gorges. Whereas Somalia is a lot more flat terrain and easier to take over.

[@AMR_k400]

@@yaqubmohamed1240 u see if axum didn't fall Somali kingdoms wouldn't have came to existence to Start wih and fyi the ottomans,Egyptians and Sudanese tried to conquer Ethiopia and they all failed this has nothing to do with religion it just the simple fact that u can't defeat the Ethiopians in their own battle ground

[@andidakalke9925]

U

[@t.d.writer1589]

About Portugal, I thought you would say the initial explorers would be brutes but the Portuguese crown and missionaries would probably appreciate a strong Christian power on the underside of the Ottomans. The only threat then is actually Ottoman campaigns in the Red Sea to try to take out the closer enemy. I mean, imagine the Holy League war with Austria, Spain, Poland, Russia, AND Ethiopia pressurizing Ottomans.

[@norwoodzomboy]

I read somewhere that at least one Eithiopian monarch had his engineers study the possibility of diverting much of their branch of the Nile River away from Muslim Egypt.

[@mrthatguyam]

They still trying to do that lmao

[@BW-fz5kf]

mrthatguyam they did now the renaissance dam is complete I'm pretty sure

[@Ra.Habib0]

no, it was egypt that was doing that to Ethiopia

[@BW-fz5kf]

@@Ra.Habib0 The water flows from Ethiopia to Egypt though

[@Ra.Habib0]

@@BW-fz5kf no shit. egypt is trying to make its won river and then cut off the nile from ethiopia

[@pikmanfan21]

“3 things you normally think of” Me: Italy right..? Italy? No? Me: oh

[@Coolcleverstone]

>"The discord is dead and will never live again" ;_;

[@samcnut]

wait there was a discord?

[@byzantinemapper6145]

@@samcnut There was, but it got destroyed for reasons I don't know.

[@kidushailu1234]

Ethiopia will be the superpower OK Japan will be defeated 👩💬Cool💫 👚👏💥 👖 👠👠 👩💬Cool💫 👚👏💥 👖 👠👠 👩💬Cool💫 👚👏💥 👖 👠👠

[@gmbrusselsprout]

Your video description made me both laugh and have faith in you as a human being XD Keep up the excellent content!

[@jaojao1768]

Definitely!

[@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146]

God help ethiopians in the future

[@selamanashebo8798]

Amen from Ethiopia

[@sintayehubiremegi6963]

Yes! very soon

[@Zen-sx5io]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@reigenlucilfer6154]

greetings to oriental brothers and sisters from an eastern orthodox sister 🙏

[@alexkefale5892]

Amen to that! Greetings from Ethiopia

[@LoganLS0]

Egypt genocided the Sudanese Christians in our world out of fear they'd ally with the Crusaders. This never would've happened in this timeline. Sudan would still be majority Christian and the Ethiopians might've even helped the Crusaders conquer Egypt. Ethiopian naval explorers might've even even made their way down the African coast building coastal trading centers and settling South Africa. Like a reverse Portugal.

[@ddsdamon1921]

Unlikely but it's not far of realm of possibility?

[@conductingintomfoolery9163]

Sudan became Islamic mainly through cultural exchanges. Ethiopian naval men and colonist would just be Somali and not want to colonize because there is like 500 people in that giant land area

[@alejandromaldonado6159]

​@@conductingintomfoolery9163Cultural exchange my ass. Christian Nubia was conquered, enslaved, and completely Arabized. The Oriental Christians had it rough with Islam.

[@AMR_k400]

​@@conductingintomfoolery9163axumites were a sea oriented people.

[@berhanwar]

According to an Islamic prophecy by Muhammad, the Ka'bah in Mecca will be permanently demolished by an Ethiopian (Abyssinian) man named Dhul Suwayqatayn. This suggests Ethiopia will be a super power again in the future. Let's not forget that the Christan Ethiopian king named Abraha, was almost successful in destroying Mecca in 570 CE -- as documented in the Qur'an (Surah 105, Al-Fil).

[@-3696]

Its said that many men will try to take the treasure under the Kaaba, and between them an Abasynian called Dhu al Swaiqatain will take it. It doesnt mean that they'll become a super power especially that the prophecy said that this will happen in the end of the days and after the destruction of Arabs and when all the muslims are gone.

[@Xuuraansi]

ATSE SHADE, Abraha attempted to distroy the Kaba without success. Indeed his strong army (with elephants) was obliterated as the following Qur'anic Verses from 105 Chapter (The Elephant) relate in detail: ۝ HAST thou not seen how thy LORD dealt with the masters of the elephant?o۝ Did he not make their treacherous design an occasion of drawing them into error;۝ and send against them flocks of birds,۝ which casts down upon them stones of baked clay;۝ and render them like the leaves of corn eaten by cattle? Qur'an 105:

[@AMR_k400]

@@-3696 no don't add stuff to the true narrative Kezab

[@-3696]

@@AMR_k400 I dont add stuff, go read the Hadiths before saying that.

[@the_fam]

Also bible says same thing egypt will kneel down to Ethiopia and Ethiopia will be great .known as Ethiopias tinsae that will happen when king tewodros come to rule and it will be the end of world Christians fighting devil from isreal .isreal and Egypt are alies now against ethiopia about river nile the bible says egypt will face hunger

[@evvec1490]

I really gonna say "What if "Whatifalthis" turn up his mic volume" but the video sound got much better than recent video.. So.. Cheers

[@leifleoden5464]

10:17 Hold on a second, in our timeline Ethiopia and the Portuguese worked together as allies. Sure, you could argue that this was to fight against the Ottomans but that glosses over the fact that the Portuguese saw the Ethiopians as the legendary kingdom of Prestor John, and if the Ethiopians are giving out fair trade deals I don't think we can simply assume the Portuguese will just automatically go to war with them.

[@underthethunder]

As a leftist who's a huge fan of your content, I'm really sad that your discord went the way it did, and I'm sorry you had to delete it. Also, what if Napoleon won in Russia? What if Persia successfully modernized? What if the Boer Republics survived? What if the Franco-Prussian War escalated? What if the Dutch were able to keep New Amsterdam? What if the Trail of Tears never happened?

[@jaojao1768]

Nice, it seems like most Althist people are pretty conservative

[@therealx1ras453]

Sir Jaojao Y'know, it is weird that most history aficionados are conservative. I love history, and I am also very conservative, but I don't know why it is that way for most of the community.

[@nikolavideomaker]

@@jaojao1768 Well, they understand the repercussions of change. Not all change is good. I have noticed that history buffs conservatives are the most reasonable of the conservative bunch. They aren't conservative for some silly reason.

[@Midnattsblå]

Napoleon could've won if he didn't invade or go too deep into Russia.

[@therealx1ras453]

@@nikolavideomaker Yeah, I think it could be because looking though history gives one a pretty good view on how leftist ideologies and beliefs have never worked.

[@jasoon1et]

Wow dude I like you. You like reading and are very knowledgeable... But Ethiopia was a superpower for a brief time during the Aximite Kingdom until the zagwe and Solomonic dynasty began internal struggles broke out...

[@Ras_shewa]

Ethiopia will be a great, mark my word

[@AMR_k400]

@TotallyAwesomeness YT so what

[@maddogbasil]

Could you do somalia next I noticed how somalia has been one ethiopias biggest rivals throughout history They've waged many famous wars against each other and is like to know what if somalia had actually won

[@dragonballsuper1519]

Ethiopia is mythologized because it does have a rich history, yet if it wasn't for the Portuguese or the Soviets they'd be in the history books like Yugoslavia. How did a population of less than one million (Somalis) have the largest landmass and coastline for a single ethnic group on the continent during the Scramble for Africa and defend it longer than any other in Africa (Dervish wars) despite few mountains to hide behind? And on top of that for centuries posed an existential threat to a much larger neighbour with mountains galore. I think if Somalia wasn't in its current state, a lot more people would take interest in its culture, and history like before the war when it was a tourist hub. Check: 'This Is Somalia' by Somali Enterprise, its an amazing video.

[@joelGi]

@@dragonballsuper1519 because you were a defacto Ottoman colony and Arab before that and because there is not much land west of Adal that is fertile to build cities in

[@dragonballsuper1519]

@@joelGi If Adal was an Ottoman colony - false - then so was Ethiopia considering large part of their territory was under Ottoman rule for centuries after the Gragn wars, while they provided protection and support to the Somalis against the Portuguese. Secondly no Arab Caliphate held sway over Somalia, these were local Sultanates with local rulers like Mogadishu and Ajuraan. The Arabs were themselves engulfed by Mongols, Safavids and Ottomans. The last part of your sentence also makes no sense considering there are several dozen surviving cities, ports and ruined towns littered across Somalia dating from the ancient and medieval eras.

[@joelGi]

@@dragonballsuper1519 By colony i meant sphere of influence you had hundreds of cannons and thousands of Turks fighting for you and we had 300 brave Portuguese and way fewer cannons.

[@joelGi]

@@dragonballsuper1519 The reason a small population of Somalis held that large area albeit never as a unified state was because they were nomadic and the land infertile and no land east of Adal was worth expanding into that's why it was ruled by Somalis unchallenged until the arrival of Italians. That's why there is also no major City outside of the few major ones like Mogadishu Hargeisha ..

[@austintomlinson7863]

thank you for finally fixing the volume issue

[@niko3688]

Finnaly something about africa thank you whatifalthist very cool

[@JustinianG]

I made a timeline where I focused alot on africa. Don't let the title fool you. I SWEAR THIS IS NOT A TROLL kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk

[@xcreenzm8]

Finally, after 69 years... He did it, he made the video

[@singularity6192]

Loved the video, DO WHAT IF ANCIENT EGYPT NEVER FELL!!!!

[@jackiereed1296]

It sucks that the discord is dead hope it can come back some day

[@sirdilbertwarlow6028]

Pardon me for asking, but why did the discord close down?

[@jackiereed1296]

Sir Dilbert Warlow oh well whatifalthist left admin to a guy who killed the server it sad but he may bring it back

[@sirdilbertwarlow6028]

Oh my, that is terrible. But yeah, hopefully it can be brought back.

[@TheRenegade...]

I'm impressed by the production quality, good job!

[@aweeddfjhgcdfxse779]

You still haven’t made a what if Latin America was a superpower timeline

[@bldyvalentine5001]

Latin America isn't a country..

[@KingAgniKai]

What if Brazil was a superpower

[@meandmetoo8436]

What Brazil wasn't a disappointment ?

[@francesconesi7666]

More like "What if Argentina was a first world country?".

[@shiny_teddiursa]

IshAlexx well what if it stayed a single country

[@chrrmin1979]

In the past two months, this has managed to become my favourite channel

[@JustinianG]

I made a timeline where I made 2 superpowers in Sub-saharan africa. The east African federation and Nigeria. Don't let the title fool you. I SWEAR THIS IS NOT A TROLL kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk

[@ethiobuzzfeed]

Yes Ethiopia was a super power. We will be again !

[@lionsofafrica3786]

We would've been a superpower in the 60s if it wasn't for the greddy people who want power

[@Isari301]

🇦🇲🤝🇪🇹

[@philcollinson328]

I really enjoyed this vid. I did have to pause at the start when you were talking, to answer a call, I spent several minutes trying to wipe specks off my monitor upon returning to the PC ..then realised they were marks on the wall to the left of you.

[@eb1247]

When you address this topic video you should have considered Ethiopia and Eritrea as one, as their unity would be the only possibility of them being or becoming a superpower

[@eb1247]

@Yohannes Adane you didn't understand what I said think about it harder before you reply

[@eb1247]

@Yohannes Adane so like I said currently they are nothing separated... Without access to the Sea Ethiopia is essentially nothing

[@eb1247]

@Yohannes Adane no my 52 year old best friend is, though he tells me the many political differences between Eritrea and Ethiopia currently, he still is an Eritrean citizen

[@eb1247]

@Yohannes Adane that would be the best outcome, too many political differences not even ethnic or geographic hindrances. I would be for them becoming one nation it would be the strongest power in Africa

[@mirrijacob7533]

@@eb1247 no we will never be a part of Ethiopia. If they try to annex us we will have a war forever. We don't have anything in common with them. We speak different languages different history l. We only have something in common with tigray and they are 6 % of the population. We are native to the kingdom of axum not Ethiopia

[@nooneimportant834]

I don't know why, but the idea of an outwards looking African empire like Ethiopia expanding into Yemen and also quite possibly into parts of Asia like India or even Indonesia is quite appealing to me

[@AMR_k400]

In ancient times Ethiopia conquered yemen and sourh arabia several times and ruled it for centuries

[@JustinianG]

I made a timeline where I made 2 superpowers in Sub-saharan africa (as close as you can get to outward looking empires in the modern world). The east African federation and Nigeria. Don't let the title fool you. I SWEAR THIS IS NOT A TROLL kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk

[@ericjohnson7234]

The fact you think empires are appealing is quite frightening.

[@Taharquathegreat]

Kemet did it took all the way to syria, Nubia did it too and expanded all the way to the sinai.

[@kevincronk7981]

Whoah a video where whatifalthist is actually on camera

[@goldenovaries]

Thank you for discussing my country’s history I love your content

[@opakular]

Not sure about the Portuguese having an indomitable military advantage over Ethiopia. In our timeline, the Ottomans were no naval slouches. They managed to keep the Portuguese out of the Red Sea and did score military successes against the Portuguese in a few naval battles. The Ethiopians might have developed a powerful navy, combining their own techniques with the technological cross fertilization occurring in the world at that time. When the Portuguese tried to impose Catholicism on Orthodox Ethiopia, the Ethiopians rejected it and kicked out Portuguese who took up residence in the country. European bureaucratic warfare did not avail itself much against nations that were just as ruthless in warfare, like the Ethiopians, and that were determined to follow their own agendas and interests. That's why Europe, prior tot he 19th century, could not effectively impose its will on the rest of the world.

[@g-man2351]

i ain't reading allat, but Ethiopia cannot be invaded effectively really, the Italians won because their army was way more advanced and Italy was able to industrialize

[@StopTheLiess]

Italy never won. Mussolini was killed by his own people back in Italy for losing the war and getting their loved ones deleted in the process. @@g-man2351

[@Taharquathegreat]

@@g-man2351 the italians never colonized ethiopia stop lying. They only got erritrea that wanted to seperate before any way, Ethiopia is just like afghanistan it CANNOT be invaded.

[@micahistory]

I always get excited whenever you make a new video

[@remuj6457]

That description is facts

[@johndevries7397]

I see you play polytopia

[@remuj6457]

@@johndevries7397 indeed. Here my friend code ic5qyHZXZ9oU3qFQ

[@vals4207]

😡

[@EverettBurger]

Love to see this updated in a few years once the dam in online

[@schmidt44]

youtube recommands this just hours after i played hearts of iron 4 playing as ethiopia making them a superpower.

[@dinnerpartyempire]

great video love the good energy, music, maps, you did great

[@AcidTripOk]

What if Whatifalthist never changed his tie from black to red during the video?

[@genericyoutubeaccount579]

I read somewhere that the Ethiopians actually did ally with the Portuguese against the Ottoman Empire.

[@dantefera6643]

yes it's true but Vasco dagamas son dead fighting along ethiopians deafting ottoman at the end of the war.

[@Crick1952]

Every EUIV player be like: *PRESTOR MY COPTIC JOHN!!!*

[@StopTheLiess]

Muhammed found refugee in Northern Ethiopia (Tigray) by a King named Negash. He gave Muhammed land where Muhammed built his first mosque and wrote the Quran, with a small part written in Ge'ez (native language to the region). Islam didn't destroy what was Aksum at that time. Aksum was moving from the only practicing the first testament to implementing the second testament. A Queen named Yodit destroyed Aksum because she didn't believe Jesus was the real messiah and wanted things to stay as just the first testament teachings.

[@SC-zq6cu]

7:51 but Ethiopians were africans, not outsiders. The reason central africa was deadly to europeans was because europeans didn't have immunity to the diseases of central africa for the same reason native americans weren't immune to european diseases. Ethiopeans had lived alongside central africans for most of human history so even though their society wasn't regularly ravaged by the diseases they would most likely have much more immunity than europeans.

[@kingmisssile9730]

No, Ethiopians didn’t have immunity. Why do you think they expanded into Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Eritrea, in ancient times but never into tropical Africa? They wouldn’t even have faced resistance but the diseases were a death sentence and no outsider could live there.

[@SC-zq6cu]

@@kingmisssile9730 The terrain is a good reason why no power disease immune or not could expand/build empires in equatorial africa. That doesn't mean Ethiopians were not immune to the diseases.

[@AMR_k400]

Ethiopians are genetically speaking a mix of three groups namely native east African hunter gatherer, natufian(levantine origin) and early iron age southarabian none of these groups developed an immunity against malaria while Bantus and other groups did , even the native component was mountain dwellers unconditioned to tropical life .

[@Taharquathegreat]

@@kingmisssile9730 lol ethiopia are black africans with the sane geneitic makeup, ethiopia simply did not want to as simple as that. The british themselves at their peak needed a whole century to beat the ashantis i doubt ethiopians could pull that off im saying this as a african who loves ethiopia.

[@Taharquathegreat]

@@AMR_k400 lol there is not natufan in their DNa stop making stuff up dummy.

[@MenalsshSEYEFU]

ደማቅ ታሪክ ኃያሏ ኢትዮጵያ ግዟቷ ሰፊ ነበር ትንሳኤዋ እየቀረበ ነው።

[@leonarduskarolusiuliustant7498]

First. Also, as an Italian, I'm a little bit triggered (remember the battle of Adua... )

[@WhatifAltHist]

You're triggered by that and not that the Nazis conquered your entire country in a matter of days.

[@BoqPrecision]

@@WhatifAltHist I think the two are correlated, lol

[@leonarduskarolusiuliustant7498]

@@WhatifAltHist That wasn't the kind of thing I would call a "conquest". The German soldiers came to Italy while we were still their allies in order to support us, and only after the armistice with the Allies had been proclaimed they took control of our northern territories (still not the entire country )

[@apc9714]

@@WhatifAltHist Well Italy was already into chaos after the 8th of September and didn't organize to resist. In addition many Italian remain loyal to the Third Reich. We are not the only country conquered by the germans in a few days (Belgium, Netherlands, Yugoslavia, Denmark...). Anyway don't get the wrong idea, I'm not defending the Italian military of that time, it was simply embarrassing.

[@birdvet4343]

Oof

[@thomaspaine3394]

Thanks for the great video. :)

[@ayanagarwal7116]

2:40 wrong map of Indian Subcontinent. Islam wasn't introduced to the bengalis(Bangladeshis) until it was conquered by Muslims. And despite conquering what is today Pakistan, they did not convert to Islam immediately. It took several centuries

[@mikesands4681]

Really enjoyed this timeline

[@JustinianG]

I think you'd be interested in a video I made. It's basically the 1940s- present greek version of this timeline. I don't make Greece a super power but I do make it much richer, much more powerful and I expanded it's borders to the size of tunisia. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKalYYmPdt6sp8k

[@aarohalme1020]

The Ethiopians could have a MUCH better chance at succeeding than Syria for numerous reasons like not being constantly invaded by foreign powers who just leave and wait for the next revolt, they would have had a long time to develop and probably somewhat friendly relations to European powers since the horn of Africa is a good stop off point. Also, probably being able to beat Italy with better relations, power and stability. There are probably many more reasons which make it probable that they at least get some slightly succesful industry like Italy, Spain and Portugal.

[@micahistory]

Now that I think about it, you are right about Ethiopia being the African Armenia

[@christiannb8232]

Yes we are not black but Semite peoples same as Arab that's why the call us Africas Armenia

[@ngn6708]

@@christiannb8232 you're the African Italia

[@AMR_k400]

@@ngn6708 its true Ethiopians mostly speak a semitic language

[@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719]

I think it's very likely that etheopia would westernize, as most who didn't either were conquered or fell into civil war or extremism.

[@yohannesatakelti8286]

subscribed a couple of months ago, i really like this channel, but would have never guessed u made a video about my country.

[@AkeTheSnake1]

2:41 chacha real smooth

[@micahistory]

I had never even thought of this before

[@nathanplaysthevideogameleg7382]

They have An abundance of gold in the north and I think Ethiopia would be a dominant AFRICAN power if major decolonization happened like our time line

[@JustinianG]

I made a timeline where I made 2 dominant powers in Sub-saharan AFRICA. The east African federation and Nigeria. Don't let the title fool you. I SWEAR THIS IS NOT A TROLL kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk

[@jamesedward6424]

That Greenland fact was really interesting and explains a lot

[@mattnalty4008]

What if someone travelled back in time and killed Hitler?

[@DeanmC261993]

Matt Nalty HELL MARCH INTENSIFIES

[@zelekaassefa1814]

That can't happen I mean if it did happen it would create a time loop !

[@mattnalty4008]

@@zelekaassefa1814 Wow!

[@alexbutler9343]

Something you didn't mention was that Nubia was also a patchwork of Christian kingdoms that didn't convert to islam till the 1500s. A strong Ethiopian ally and reading partner next door would likely stave off the influence of Muslim merchants that were the catalyst for This region turning majority Muslim.

[@jaojao1768]

It's strange that China never discovered beaurocratic warfare considering how powerful beaurocracy was there

[@rataflechera]

And they also have one of the best theoretics on warfare. Which shall be a what if.

[@foreverjune8]

20 year waiting room for "What if Ethiopia was a Superpower? Part 2"

[@Ethiomuzik]

The time is coming...you will be the witness. All roads will lead to Ethiopia!

[@murderbus]

Jokes on you I already watched all your videos! Mahaha

[@WhatifAltHist]

Even the ones from the beginning of my career? I have trouble watching those. That's commitment. I would buy you the internet equivalent of a beer if that existed.

[@murderbus]

@@WhatifAltHist I remember the first video I watched was what if the Arabs won the battle of Tour. Don't worry dude they are still enjoyable, though your editing as improved greatly

[@TapOnX]

@@WhatifAltHist Actually, it's inspiring to see how much progress you've made

[@johnyricco1220]

I don’t see how the Muslims would allow such a powerful Christian empire to emerge so close to Mecca. A better play for Ethiopia maybe to expand west and take over the Sahel. They would have a transcontinental empire from the Arabian Sea to the Atlantic, or at least to the borders of Mali. Nobody is going to bother them for a long time

[@AMR_k400]

The prophet muhammed warned his followers to not attack Ethiopia although some of them didn't listen and attacked Ethiopia

[@Taharquathegreat]

lol in the sahel there we're other great african empires such as kanem-bornou, songhai and mali, it wouldent be that easy.

[@mitchmclean5435]

The Ethiopians didn't have their own patriarch until the 20th century. They were subject to the Coptic patriarch of Alexandria in Egypt.

[@ЙоанТропчев]

I need you to do videos like this on other underrated countries. For example Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria, Denmark and many others used to be regional powers at some point and I'd love to see an alternate history of them (or less talked about places in general). I apologise if there is a video about them that I've missed. Kinda new to the channel.

[@JustinianG]

I think you'd be interested in a video I made. It's basically the 1940s- present greek version of this timeline. I don't make Greece a super power but I do make it much richer, much more powerful and I expand it's borders to the size of tunisia. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKalYYmPdt6sp8k

[@ЙоанТропчев]

@@JustinianG thanks, I'll check it out.

[@matthewj0429]

This makes me want to play an EU4 Ethiopian EU4 game.

[@danshakuimo]

That whole taking yemen and dominating trade seems like a good strat but I think the meta is rushing for the Kilwan gold mines near madagascar. If Ethiopia decided to liberate Egypt from the Mamluks they would've had a easier time industrializing with access to European tech.

[@TheGreatLlamaJockey]

This alternate Ethiopia reminds me of the mythical Christian king Prester John

[@michaellewis8849]

You forget that the Portuguese first thought that Ethiopia was the legendary nation of Prestor John, they revered them. Why would Portugal attack?

[@leonarduskarolusiuliustant7498]

Once they found out that the Ethiopian Christians were schismatics and heretics...

[@christiannb8232]

@Aseffa B he he google and learn Ethiopia adopted Christianity and made it a state religion long before Georgia

[@millevenon5853]

Ethiopia. Fastest growing economy in Africa at 8% per year

[@JustinianG]

I made a timeline where I made 3 Economic powers in Sub-saharan africa. The east African federation, south africa and Nigeria. Don't let the title fool you. I SWEAR THIS IS NOT A TROLL kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4HXZourbaqVmNk

[@DirtyEdon]

Lmfao your description is actually funny as hell!

[@MM-xm5vx]

I find that hard to be alive that could happen, modern Ethiopia can’t hold together Oromos Tigrayans Agra’s Somalis and Amharic peoples I don’t think an empire would be able to do it especially with holding Yemen and Oman to. The pride cultures of Arabs Swhillis and Somalis would easily be able to repel within a few decades and this would bring these people’s together in response we would get a east Africa with dominant Somali Swahili and abasynian.

[@tewekdenahom485]

Yeah this is rubbish

[@AMR_k400]

No u see amharas and tigres were created after the fall of axum ,and currently in Ethiopia nationalism is rising so tribalism wont be a problem for long

[@Taharquathegreat]

No such thing as arab swahili, swahili is a black african culture.

[@emperortrajan3609]

This is an awesome channel

[@timothymclean]

I'm inclined to think that Ethiopia could industrialize in this timeline, as long as it didn't get a Sykes-Picot sort of affliction. But my understanding of why some countries caught up to the West and others didn't is pretty rudimentary...

[@ericjohnson7234]

Geography and technology are factors.

[@Dreadnought586]

Great Video Rudyard

[@moblinmajorgeneral]

One thing that would not happen would be the occupation of Abyssinia by the Italians as both Eritrea and Italian Somaliland would've been controlled by Ethiopia.

[@AMR_k400]

Eritrea was annexed from Ethiopia in our time line

[@andreimoga7813]

i'll sure return in 20 years for part 2. can't wait!

[@noahmerid1698]

You never answered the biggest question though. Would the Solmonic Dynasty still be in power? I would assume yes, but if you had asked anyone in 1946 if the solomonic dynasty would still be in power today most would probably say yes. how could a government that successfully survived European colonialism, had successfully reestablish itself after exile, and generally loved by it's people fall away? But I guess that's what makes it so difficult to know "what if" or predict the future. you can never account for every detail.

[@AMR_k400]

No the axumite would've continued to rule the country

[@emunilsson1559]

Love the face cam but you gotta make sure your collar isn't crumpled and learn a cool tie knot to make your cam more personalised

[@georgios_5342]

I'm a dude and get cold when women don't. Is that patriarchy too, or are my parents holding back some very dark secrets?

[@gypsysprite4824]

meanwhile i can happily go out in 40 degree *Fahrenheit* weather (4.44 degrees Celsius) in shorts and no shirt lel

[@juliane__]

I just like your sideswipes to society in your videos. Makes me feel not so trapped inside of it. ^^