What If Ethiopia Modernized Like Japan?

[@cdcdrr]

"Would Mussolini be stupid enough to invade a strong Ethiopia after Italy's last defeat?" Yes, yes he would. This is the guy who starts wars he has no business fighting in, and then starting new wars to distract people from how badly he's losing the previous war.

[@ZDagenaisquebecnationaliste]

Sure if you want 🤡

[@Hugh_Mannn]

The Germans had to help his ass cause the Greeks were fighting better than a ‘powerful’ Italy

[@joaogabrielimperial7777]

when you lose a war to greece

[@gayanudugampola8973]

​@@ZDagenaisquebecnationaliste Italy moment

[@ZDagenaisquebecnationaliste]

⁠​⁠@@gayanudugampola8973I’m not Italian but I am not stupid enough to believe what the initial comment said

[@Huminahumina465]

Might be fun to do something like if Liberia was given more attention by America

[@stargazer-elite]

Yeah that would be pretty intriguing maybe the USA fully takes part in it instead of Liberia being controlled by the American colonial society essentially becoming the first true colony in Africa this might lead either more American colonialism or something else because a large part of the reason the USA didn’t want to colonize and add territories like that much is because of the hypocrisy around it if Liberia were to become independent in this timeline I would suppose it would likely become a second USA the United States of Africa

[@derspieler4793]

Yeah what if the USA helped Liberia to become the USA

[@dragonflied3]

@@derspieler4793 Urf, would they have a name change? There'd be two USAs: United States of Africa and United States of America

[@derspieler4793]

@@dragonflied3 They maybe call themself United States of West Africa

[@JetstreamKody]

​@@derspieler4793Or United African States, UAS?

[@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po]

Scenario idea: What if the Danelaw survived?

[@JLAvey]

Wait, it ended? When?

[@NBAY0UNGB01]

thats a good idea

[@thepancakewizard]

Great idea

[@BradleyDantzer-x4m]

Who is Danelaw?

[@MrOoYT]

A certain part of England would still obey Danish laws. That’s all that would change.

[@hondoplays9461]

Actually, Japan and Ethiopia were in talks of a royal marriage and alliance in the 1930s. The Entente said they would sanction both nations if they did that so they didn't. That could easily apply in this scenario though.

[@ThePanEthiopian]

I didn't know that 😂

[@zhcultivator]

If it happened, that would have been epic

[@adenm8963]

Royal marriage as in a union? The 2 states become one?

[@Visavislespoir]

@@adenm8963no, I assume to create ties and secure a potential alliance. A personal union only occurs when the rulers of two countries marry, not any of their relatives.

[@randomguy6152]

​@@adenm8963if a what if comes out about this i would absolutely love for them to make it so the child of the royal marriage inherits both empires

[@rileyrose5166]

I actually think the key to this scenario lies in that "flavorless" period. The reason Japan's modernization was so successful was due to the developments of the Edo period. The stability and peace brought a bunch of population growth and importantly, huge economic developments. Before Commodore Perry was even born innovative financial techniques were developing in Japan with a rapidly commercializing economy. Many of the Zaibatsu that were key figures of Japanese industrialization got their start here. Furthermore, literacy became even more widespread than it had been in the past. For Ethiopia to have a Japan situation, it would need similar developments in the period before the 1800s imo

[@信衞門]

Exactly. If I recall, late Edo Period Japan had around 75% of males were literate, which is astonishing given the medieval technology. This was only possible because of the 200+ years of peace.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@@信衞門 they were not a medieval society they were a renaissance one. the europeans had given them european style printing presses before the the Edo period. and they had chinese style printing presses since the 700s AD. resulting in domestic hybrid styles during the edo period. considering they had over 1000 years of printing tech, and hundreds of years of knowledge of western printers, Edo period Japan can hardly be called medieval.

[@jonathanbowers8964]

​@@matthiuskoenig3378Yeah. I would say that Japan in 1850 was probably on par with 1600s Netherlands. Yes it wasn't industrialized, but it was about as rich as you can get without industrialization or international trade.

[@AGamerthatregretsalot]

Never thought of Ethiopia much recently,but now that you mentioned this idea I realized how much i was underestimating Ethiopia.

[@buddermonger2000]

Ethiopia is really cool. Currently racked by minor ethnic tensions which are settling with good leadership, went communist during the cold War (becoming the poster child for African famine), but also a unified state for millenia with one of the oldest branches of Christianity and a population of over 100 million I think actually ahead of Egypt, and industrializing rapidly.

[@MichaelScott-my8uh]

@@buddermonger2000 Are you trying to imply that Ethiopia now has good leadership, funny.

[@buddermonger2000]

@MichaelScott-my8uh They ended the war and are reintegrating Tigray. I have no other context, but even then that's better than 90% of Africa

[@Topagendadolla]

@@buddermonger2000better than most places… despite having a diverse large group of people… they still manage to stay together.

[@USSFFRU]

@@buddermonger2000 Sounds to me they're still being the African beacon we all know and love.

[@In_Our_Timeline]

Note: "Once more, after much discussion, we told the delegation from the British Anti-Slavery Society that, in 1923 , at the latest, all slaves would be freed and slavery would be completely abolished in Ethiopia. This information was given to them both orally and in writing. However, there will always be some criminals in any nation. If any men are discovered breaking the declared laws, foreign envoys are informed that We have taken extreme measures to punish them, including the death penalty. Thus, since We have done everything within Our power to free the slaves, Our conscience does not condemn Us."

[@necromater6656]

I guess they could also use slaves to industrialize like what some in the confederacy imagined.

[@duckling3615]

@@necromater6656 Ethiopian slavery was not exactly like the South. The system would probably collapse with industrialisation. Though it could be useful like Russian serfdom for centralising power and wealth. Which while probably good for the Ethiopian elites, would suck for the long term prosperity of the country.

[@salj.5459]

US 13th Amendment has the same stipulations. No slavery except for prisoners

[@gagoomt4076]

@@duckling3615it was similar to the south what are you taking about? It was color based / the mixed looking Ethiopians 3nslaved the bl@ck ones.

[@lbgamer6166]

@@necromater6656You just contradicted yourself

[@eatinsomtin9984]

I don't understand why no one makes the comparison between Iran and Ethiopia. Both never colonised except for quick invasions by the British and Italians, both very mountainous, similar populations (Iran would of had more then Ethiopia if it were not for their population restriction laws), both the leaders of their own subgroup of religion, both leaders of their own genetic family (Iran of iranic countries and Ethiopia of Cushitic countries), and both have very diverse ethnic groups in their countries.

[@abrehamtakel9002]

We love you from Ethiopia 🇪🇹

[@gagoomt4076]

Iranians have a good grip on education lots of engineers, doctors.

[@JustAnotherAbdi]

Ethiopia isn’t fully Cushitic. Only the Oromo, Somali and Afar populations have Cushitic Roots. The Amharic, Tigre populations have Semitic roots.

[@adventuresintheculinarywil3296]

Both changed their names- Abyssinia and Persia/ Iran and Ethiopia!

[@Topagendadolla]

@@JustAnotherAbdiAmhara are Cushitic they just adopted Semitic languages… the genes are the same

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your videos man! Suggestion: What if everything went perfectly For Napoleón III. Loved your napoleon I video! Wondering what this scenario would be like for his nephew

[@extraordinarytv5451]

Wasnt expecting a good intentioned video on Ethiopia but it seems someone did their research. I'm not Ethiopian myself but I love its history so thank you for this treat!

[@evothenew3333]

Greetings from Morocco 🇲🇦 to the Ethiopian 🇪🇹 brothers really proud of their resilience!

[@Saheem-yb2nh]

Morocco 🇲🇦 🤝 Ethiopia 🇪🇹

[@ebbek6065]

Ethiopians love Morocco brother

[@naolamenu5615]

❤❤❤😍😍😍 Thank you

[@GETAHUN-v5z]

Ethiopians love our Moroccan brothers & sisters.

[@islamicconquest]

Ethiopia is Christain country and Portugal 🇵🇹 helped because of that but how about morroco? Aren't you Muslims Why should you side with Ethiopia 🇪🇹

[@andrewrogers3067]

Ethiopia, Morocco and possibly Algeria I think have the best future ahead of them. Oh, Botswana is great too but it’s much smaller.

[@לעזאזלעםגוביידן]

I don't think Algeria have better future, at least in the near future Their economy heavily tie to oil and gas , even worse there are no sustainable growth and the government really corrupt

[@Nitromonster622]

Egypt can be great but the corrupt government is ruining everything

[@ThePanEthiopian]

The other east Africans, Ghana and Egypt got some great future too

[@SundryTurnip]

Algeria is in a good strategic position but for the most part their future looks relatively bleak

[@Prideium9001]

Nigeria

[@avandorhu-3389]

Since Ethiopia is located close to the equator, and theres a vast ocean just east of their border, I'd imagine this timeline's Ethiopia would have a very easy time establishing a space program. Even if they don't have the population to develop manned missions themselves, I can still imagine other countries renting out their space centers for their own missions.

[@joaogabrielimperial7777]

if israel and canada can they can

[@korakys]

Space geography is overrated. Russia has it almost as bad as you can get and yet they were still the first to get a decent program going.

[@avandorhu-3389]

​​@@korakys yes, but even the Soviets built most if not all of their space ports in their more southern regions. What is modern day Khazakstan. So while having the right geography is not a requirement, it still has major advantages that cannot simply be ignored.

[@hotman_pt_]

​@@avandorhu-3389it's still overrated. Normally countries also promote space economy to invest in poorer regions to assert sovereignty, like the Soviet Union or France

[@andryuu_2000]

Ya mon we a gon in da space fi sho, hail Rasta

[@Alfred_Atheling]

I remember a video like this was made by whatifalthist years ago (back whenever he actually made alternate history and not political garbage). I’m glad Ethiopia getting some more alternate made for it. It’ll bring more light to African history.

[@Alfonse-dm6ht]

He Has Fallen on Hard Time

[@lbgamer6166]

Political garbage? And you guys claim to avoid bias.

[@scorpiovenator_4736]

Too bad he became obsessed with the right

[@perhaps1094]

@@lbgamer6166 Anyone with their eyes open can see the man has getting pretty deep into right and far right politics. Also who are u even talking to abt bias? You don't know any of the ppl in the comment section, why would u assume they are unbiased?? Lol Bias is ok when you're upfront abt it, if you just present your obvious biases as 'common sense' people are not going to listen even if they agree. Most of history tube leans right so it's quite telling that whatifalthist was mockrd as much as he was.

[@kevinoftedahl4182]

​triggered much are we?

[@TheGeneralofMandalore]

"Wow! As an unbias observer, this scenario is amazing and very well researched!" - Not MangoFett

[@TaroTheBee]

seems trustworthy

[@buffsqueak2427]

"Seems just about right" -Not a Possible History viewer

[@TheGeneralofMandalore]

​@@TaroTheBeeSo True

[@Voided191]

I'll pass your kind words onto the research team

[@cvmpro1497]

Cool

[@PepperNutz]

Scenario Idea: What if Genoa didnt sell Corsica to France and Napoleon became an Italian General?

[@lordbeetrot]

That would be cool

[@famousdeepo1157]

I think Napoleon would of liked it because as we know Napoleon is very interested in Italian culture and everything.

[@goroakechi6126]

More likely Corsica would be an independent state. Corsica had already declared independence, and Genoa knew that it couldn’t take it back.

[@WaltzerCerealMuncher]

Napoleon uniting the peninsula sounds interesting

[@propernoun1583]

Keep in mind that Japan was an island chain, and it was more like Britain as in it is nearly impossible to invade directly. That actually gives me an idea for a scenario where Japan and the UK are swapped in the past.

[@MrGilang100]

For Japan is easier since you just need to make a more open minded daimyo to win the Sengoku. UK tho ia hard since you need to disentangle the British from European affairs, most likely the turning point is successful Spanish Armada but a phyric British victory in subsequent land invasion so the English choose to be an isolationist state.

[@theyluvkg7078]

@@MrGilang100not that easy for Japan since they don’t have the natural resources to industrialize fully by themselves and to conquer the lands needed for those resources they would have to beat a China without the advantages they had irl(maybe Imjin Wars).

[@to6837]

​@@theyluvkg7078Japan's lack of resources in the 1930s was a post-industrial problem. Industrialization was possible, and Japan was self-sufficient in the coal and iron it needed. But to get through the Great Depression, they needed China's markets and resources.

[@killerkirbydude]

Ethiopia is a very naturally defensible country too tbh

[@gengarzilla1685]

I see what you mean, but being mountainous doesn't beat being an island chain.

[@bartholomeusnebuchadnezzar2463]

I sugest making a byzantine or modern greek scenario. There were so many dicisive battles that could have been won by the eastern romans or the greeks, that, an alternate history of greek history would be quite interesting! Please consider this!

[@kevinnicolasgarcia9291]

Please do more scenarios like this with different countries. I love this type of videos.

[@leogazebo5290]

Please do one for Thailand/Siam, I wanna hear how you think would happen. Great video as always.

[@theArab__]

I’d actually really like to see a “what if everything went perfect for Egypt”, seeing as you mentioned them here

[@toxicavenger-oz6tr]

Nasser is able to form UAR

[@hypertech116]

What side exactly? The original Egyptians? The Greeks? Or the Arab people inhabiting it today?

[@Taharquathegreat]

if evrything went perfect they would still be black africans , as the race of the ancient Egyptians between 3100 B.C and 525 B.C it was already proven that it was ruled by black africans.

[@TheBoyWhoLiveddd725]

@@Taharquathegreat where did they go then ? why were they so weak if they were africans ?

[@Taharquathegreat]

@@TheBoyWhoLiveddd725 They survived Assyrian, Hyksos and the big sea people invasions several times, and by the -525 B.C persian invasion Kemet was separated by upper Kemet (Egypt) and lower Kemet (Egypt) which made them weak. they never completely dissapeared if you go in southern egypt even in 2024 the population is still black now , according to minority rights watch there is still 3 million of them. I met several of them personally in real life , their culture has been pretty much watered down and destroyed by arabs

[@blueking7425]

I wish you could do the same thing for Iran/Persia, it’s such an underrated country with so much great history.

[@evothenew3333]

And don’t get me wrong I’m with Iranians getting their freedom just dislike the pretentious Persians who think drinking alcohol and hating on Arabs makes them western and civilized. It’s so cringe.

[@evothenew3333]

I do empathize with Iranians because in Morocco my home country so many Imams are trying to fool people to go for an Islamic government because that’s the only way for Muslims to be developed again blah blah… thankfully less and less people now buy into that with the internet and looking at Afghanistan experience for example, #### in Iraq and Syria before, etc. Even Saudi Arabia is leaving that behind now thankfully.

[@blueking7425]

@@evothenew3333 what are you on about?

[@adankmeme651]

@@blueking7425 he is on crack

[@JassonAlando]

This is just "what if everything went perfect for Ethiopia". Edit: why do 50% of the time if their post blow up they always say "mom im famous" Just mom not dad or uncel? (The other is thank you so much for ___ likes)

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

It’s close but it’s not really ideal enough to be an “everything went perfect” video, especially since this has just been buffing Ethiopia rather than nerfing the other nations the way that series does

[@AdvancedGamer-]

@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527eh true

[@themarvelousemafia4457]

@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Kind of like the democratic Japan video

[@uruguaylusitano5797]

That would be, Islam didn't manage to go past Nubia...

[@abdiabdi3225]

@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 for some magical reason in this scenario both Somalis and Oromos who have historically never liked to be under Ethiopian domination nor has Eritrea they fought a 30 years war because of it. Most likely something like this would have a much larger and devastating civil war and would only make the tribal ethnic groups more solid.

[@gengarzilla1685]

I wouldn't put it past Mussolini to still invade this Ethiopia anyway. The guy wants a vanity project and a chance to prove the inherent superiority of fascism by avenging Italy's embarrassing old loss. The chip on Italy's shoulder combined with the continuing European superiority complex over Africans means I still think a second Italo-Ethiopian war happens, with Italy losing again as the video mentions. So then, what would happen afterwards? Would Mussolini's reign or even the entire Italian fascist system itself even survive the backlash of this second humiliation, and what impact if any could this conflict's result have on the remaining interwar period and WW2? I have to be honest, this is a direction I hoped the video would have gone down when I began watching.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

YES! Ethiopia deserved better! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Joshislying]

No they deserved to be Great Italia

[@BeryAb]

@@Joshislying Ethiopia deserves to own Italy in its entirety? I concur!

[@Gvazdika.]

@@BeryAb hell yeah ethiopian italy

[@Joshislying]

@@BeryAb No Italian Ethiopia we Italians are superior History Wise and Intelligent wise

[@Joshislying]

@@BeryAb Italian Ethiopia

[@to6837]

If Amharic anime and manga could have been popular

[@us3rG]

Amharic entertainment is like Arabic entertainment. Not really entertaining

[@August-p3s]

@@us3rGit could have been in an alternate world

[@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

the empire of Ethiopia video that cody never made the mad man did it your a mad man possible history

[@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

oh i remember I ALWAYS REMEMBER!@ratisbonawau

[@PoofPoof369]

He technically did

[@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

yeah kind off@@PoofPoof369

[@Suhayb186]

Can you do a "If everything went perfect for somalia" considering they are also a very relevant nation in the horn of africa sphere? Also I really enjoyed this video and hope for more horn of africa content ❤.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Since you mentioned Egypt tried to modernize, why don't you do a "What if everything went perfect for Egypt?

[@biniyamashenafi9160]

Thanks for making a great video about my country

[@JokeJ-1]

good video keep it up

[@JokeJ-1]

go

[@Patman0074]

Amazing video, please keep up these types

[@mastercrash0683]

12:02 I'm not entirely sure if this is true, just looking at the map it seems like they could have invaded the ottoman territories in Arabia. The ottomans at this point were not industrialized, and Britain or Russia may have aided Ethiopia if they tried to attack them. Im not sure if they would actually want to do this, but it seems like it would be possible.

[@elirej7201]

Britain would probably not support it, a weakend ottoman empire would mean a stronger russian empire, and it would be hard for the ethiopians to rule the new territory due to ethnic, cultural and religious differences

[@uruguaylusitano5797]

But taking Hedjaz would trigger a renewed Jihad against Ethiopia, the Muslim would take up arms that the Europeans bring and make groups and campaign to attract volunteers, and in this situation, where the "protector" of Islam is attacked and the cities of Mecca and Medina are taken, it would very likely gain a lot

[@Handle0108]

I mean even in our own timeline, the Ottomans and the neighbouring Somali Adal Sultanate fought with Ethiopia precisely to avoid this possibility of Christian domination in the region. Because, historically the Ethiopians invaded Mecca before the birth of the Prophet in the 500s. @@uruguaylusitano5797

[@wstm3399]

ethiopia ruled the yemenins during the axumite era

[@rebbybam230]

Ottoman was at its peak when it attacked ethiopia in mid 15 century, ethiopia was in survival mode , but prior to that during ethiopia axumite empire peak time it invaded half of Arabia

[@zaidabid6049]

Man PH is the best guy on Earth I love hi. Keep up the Great work❤❤❤😊😊😊

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke9660]

Honestly, if we wanted Ethiopia to modernize, it would’ve been best to start with Aksum. That was the one time they completely dominated trade on the Red Sea, was allied w/ Rome, had influence over the Arabian Peninsula, & was even considered a superpower. It would be better to start with Aksum winning the Persian-Aksumite War instead of losing. Then, they’d likely still have territory in the Middle East, influence in the Red Sea, &, most importantly, wouldn’t be landlocked anymore. Then, go from there. I think that would improve their chances BY ALOT!!!!! By starting from the very very beginning. Changing things there… in the nation that shaped Ethiopia’s entire identity. That would improve Ethiopia’s potential the most

[@wolvesgotnext5777]

Axum isn’t the same as modern ethiopia

[@rebbybam230]

I'm ethiopian there was a Persian ethiopian war ?????? I have no idea , any documentation?

[@rebbybam230]

​@@wolvesgotnext5777 yes it is it's the current Eritrea n northern ethiopia,

[@chidubememma-ugwuoke9660]

@@rebbybam230yh look it up. 🤯🤯 it’s barely talked about for some reason 😂

[@Mtkillua-h7w]

@@rebbybam230Current Eritrea and northern Ethiopia does not equal modern day Ethiopia

[@ziggytheassassin5835]

I'd argue a ww1 central powers modernised ethiopia could actually turn the tide here. Ww1 was largely a numbers game, and the british african colonies were not that militarised at all. I could imagine some ethiopian campaign up the nile to threaten egypt itself. It probably would push a bit, then get bogged down in sudan. Eating up more british troops in the process. but more importantly, if they take djibouti and somali land, they could cut the red sea. Which would put a lot of pressure on the british. Ww1 was close enough that these changes alone could turn it towards a central powers win.

[@sino_diogenes]

If Ethiopia's presence could make the central powers win, they'd also probably make joining the allies a steamroll.

[@ziggytheassassin5835]

@@sino_diogenes theyd put a bit more pressure on the ottomans, but they would still be a minor power and they wouldnt add much. The central powers already had the red sea cut by britain. Central powers Ethiopias main strength would be cutting it for the entente. Entente ethiopia would be just another few divisions for the entente.

[@abdiabdi3225]

You're forgetting the dervishes already fighting for central powers and against Ethiopia this would lead to a weird situation in which the Ethiopians try to help the Somalis against Europeans which would never be accepted in Ethiopia (in our timeline they literally overthrow a guy for being to nice to them) if they fought against them it would only cause a much more widespread revolt from the Somalis a war which might take a lot Ethiopia's energy and may even make an independent Somalia possible in the late 1910s.

[@roiduc9985]

Taking Djibouti/Somaliland would not mean cutting Red Sea access - they don't have the naval power to enforce the blockade, Ethiopia would simply control the shore without being able to do much given the Entente's naval supremacy in this space

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

For all the other reasons said, Ethiopia joining the Central Powers wouldn't change much. Not only was Germany already encouraging the Dervish to gain independence and fight the Ethiopians and the Italians, but they NEED British materials in order to fund their industry. Ethiopia simply doesn't have those resources to fuel their industry. Ditching their only real trade partner for them is basically death. Germany couldn't supply Ethiopia as the French, British, and Italian navies in the region would simply destroy whatever small fleet the Ethiopians (Likely bought ships off the British, Italian ships that were captured in the earlier war and a couple Ethiopian built gunboats.) had and use the Aden Protectorate as a port instead. The Ethiopian economy would likely collapse, and they'd quickly be defeated from there.

[@Nicolassantosbranco]

I think if Ethiopia showed prosperity, the other African nations would follow their model, in the same way as happened to Japan in Asia, a stronger Ethiopia would probably led them to be a important US ally in the region, probably in more recent years Ethiopia would wage a anti Islamic campaign alongside Israel, intervening in some Sahel nations and specially Yemen. If we speculate more I would predict Ethiopia with a standard of living similar to Chile and much more global influence, but couldn't imagine those effects in the most important prospect, the rastafari and reggae.

[@theassassin9326]

Ethiopia is currently ruling by a guy named Ahamd Ali

[@BW-fz5kf]

@@theassassin9326 He is Christian but has an islamic name.

[@theassassin9326]

@@BW-fz5kf and you believe him?

[@BW-fz5kf]

@@theassassin9326 His wife is also a well known Protestant singer in Ethiopia. Abiy Ahmed has demolished several mosques and disrespected the Orthodox Church many times. In Ethiopia there’s no family name. Your father’s first name is your last name which means Christian’s can have Muslim names and Muslims can have Christian names.

[@theassassin9326]

@@BW-fz5kf Abiy’s wife was originally orthodox Christian from Gondar. When she meet/married Abiy she ‘become’ Protestant. Abiy Ahmed Ali’s father was Muslim. Abiy Ahmed Ali was born and raised in Jimma (a Muslim province). Abiy Ahmed cabinet are chiefly Muslims. Abiy Ahmed victims were so far the ancient Christian people of the northern highlands; the Amhara & Tigrayans.

[@adamcheklat7387]

1:38: Waltz of the Flowers by Tchaikovsky. Nice touch.

[@Hehe.3.]

Could you do an episode on if Atenism (essentially Egyptian monotheism) took off after Akhenaten’s efforts?

[@mrcoolz5541]

Scenario idea: What if chocolate was made of Austria-Hungary?

[@JustAnotherGuy-vx4po]

Scenario idea: What if the Slavs expelled the German invaders and solidified their position in eastern Germany?

[@Vlain-hc5sb]

​@ratisbonawauyou'd have a romance speaking Croatia and Bosnia, German speaking Slovenia and a Greek speaking Bulgaria and Serbia.

[@donpollo3154]

@ratisbonawau turks probably would go and stay in Ukraine, Russia probably would be populated by finnic, turkic or germanic peoples

[@dulguunjargal1199]

​@@Vlain-hc5sbLatin Romanian and Hungarian Alphabets

[@lithunoisan]

What if the Germanics expelled the Slavic invaders and solidified their position in Eastern Germany and maybe Poland.

[@CosmosStudios-ho5fg]

What if the slavs went even further and conquered Italy?

[@zzeegermantube]

Nice "what if" idea! I like it.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

So this is the secret “what if everything went perfect for Ethiopia” timeline.

[@Slapbattler666]

yes

[@MasonNoakes-h3l]

0:04 casually destroys Ethiopian pride

[@French_bone_man]

2:50 i feel like it would fit the style better if you were to light up the nations you were talking about instead of text

[@thedarkassassin0116]

This was very well done!

[@joaogabrielimperial7777]

13:21 ethiopian monroe doctrine.

[@MarkIsTiredAlways]

We would need to buff Ethiopia and we need to go even more back in time to change some stuff to make Ethiopia the perfect country

[@Realr420]

​@@MarkIsTiredAlwayslike what??

[@gengarzilla1685]

Greater East African Co-Prosperity Sphere.

[@gymmotivationvidsandclips1987]

That was a great video and very informative as well, I did know that an African country could have this much potential, can you please do a video on Morocco next!

[@Blue96YT]

Basically, Ethiopia would become a major country in HOI4 instead of Italy.

[@aymanparvezsherani5988]

you should make a video on what if Egypt successfully modernized

[@ladamilitarizado327]

Finally Potential Country This is truly a adition to the list of potentials in history alongsidd Potential Man

[@Corium1]

I think that Ethiopia would probably be close to India in terms of prospects during the cold war. but with far greater footing than India in our own timeline. I do wonder if they'd lean towards one side or the other. India leaned into the Warsaw pact so they might do the same?

[@ironsheep9867]

I've been wondering about a situation like this for a very long time now, and I have to say great video on it! But I am curious. What if the Congo managed to do something similar on their own, or together with modern-Ethiopia's rise? Or what if the Kingdom of Aksum never falls? Or at the very least, the core of Ethiopia stays in the Tigrayan Ethiopian Highlands; and not the southern lowlands where Addis Ababa resides today? Just a thought. Oh, and speaking of video ideas, what about that South Suda- But non-the-less great video, and keep up the amazing work! You are officially my favorite man from the land of the VOC!

[@Shaleqa_Adenan]

You asked a wonderful question and chugged stick in the anal of your question. Aksume included southern part of Ethiopia 🇪🇹 and today Somaliland. Amhara were the closest to Aksume but 90% Tigrayan were recently settlers. The reason they always act like outsiders

[@jhonywalker1168]

ayyyi yhen aymro yzeh new metnorew? @@Shaleqa_Adenan

[@keshi5541]

@@Shaleqa_Adenan Speaking complete lies. Wtf. Aksum was centered around Eritrea (Biher-Tigrinya & Tigre speaking groups) and Northern Ethiopia (Tigray). Yet you people say it's closest to Amhara and Tigrayans are outsiders. That is like if you said Italians are the least related to the Romans. Amharic for an example is the least similar to Ge'ez, in comparison to the groups I mentioned earlier. A language that the Aksumites spoke. I'm not even Tigrayan and I found your comment silly.

[@delnadea3916]

@@keshi5541 That is the problem with the Amhara elite. Their ambition has no limit. Geez is the formal written form of Tigrinya and Tigrait. Amharic is 90% Tigrinya adopted by many tribes that were administered by Tigrayans. The tribes could not pronounce glottal sounds (constants and vowels like ዓ፣ ሓ ፡ ኸ etc) and they omitted certain constants from many words and alter it from the original . sometimes they kept the written word the same but still mispronounce the constants . eg. the word for world in Amharic is spelled the same way as in Tigrinya but pronounced differently: ዓለም but pronounce it like ኣለም in Amharic፡ similarly for sun - ጸሓይ but pronounced like ጸሃይ ፡it is obvious the people who invented the Geez alphabets are Tigrinya speakers. no one creates alphabet they cannot pronounce. examples of omission of constants are like በጊዕ በግ sheep ፡ ላሕሚ ላም cow፡ ሰኣለ ： ሳለ to draw ሰዓለ ፡ ሳለ cough because of the omission, both the words for draw and cough in Amharic ሳለ are the same but not in Tigrinya - the original words ሰኣለ ሰዓለ ;

[@keshi5541]

@@delnadea3916 I've noticed there is some similarity with Amharic and Tigrinya with some alterations (not all the time though). I figured it's possibly due to cushitic influence from Afar and Agaw languages placed on Amharic??

[@WildsDreams45]

I played a game as Ethiopia in Victoria 2's HPM and it seemed a bit silly. Not having coal, and iron deposits was a major blow.

[@charliescales6398]

What if the Americas’ megafauna didn’t go extinct and they domesticated the indigenous horse and camels?

[@restitutororbis964]

This one is super interesting to me, it could have changed everything as far as the defensive capabilities of the natives against the initial wave of European colonization.

[@shineshrinepl]

Nice video 👍

[@coolguywithahat0127]

This video: "What if Ethiopia Modernize Like Japan?"~ Nothing...

[@Burnerrr.]

Japan 1 ethnic group Ethiopia 90+ tribes

[@ZeroTheBot]

​@@Burnerrr.Ethiopia tried assimilating the other ethnic groups into the Amharic identity

[@keshi5541]

@@Burnerrr. I mean Japan has other ethnic groups but like.... 98% are Yamato ethnic group.

[@Aerostarm]

What a cool idea.

[@The_WhiteSilver]

You should do: What if Admiral Zheng He rounded the coast of Africa and started the age of Chinese colonization.

[@lukasdittrich7400]

I love you for making this vid even though i didn't start yet

[@ciceroalexandar6184]

Adal didn't start the war with Ethiopia but it was Ethiopia's emperor in an attempt to capture Adali Lands

[@us3rG]

Muslims killed Ethiopia on purpose

[@tryagainbragg2569]

This is an awesome topic that doesn’t get enough attention any chance of making this into a series like maybe a Brazil video

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

If Ethiopia was able to modernize like Japan, it could have plausibly been the African Russia and conquered almost all if not the entire Horn of Africa Rough comparisons if the modernization was complete Aksum Civilization = Kievan Rus Ge’ez = church Slavonic Amhara = Russians Eritreans = Ukrainians Oromo/Somalians/other Cushitic speaking people = Turkic people Amharic = Russian Tigrinya = Ukrainian Ethiopia = Russia Eritrea = Ukraine

[@delnadea3916]

It would be worse than Soviet Union. Ethiopia still feels, acts like a messed up empire on death bed. It has always been failing, pompous, resentful, usurping deceitful empire lead by leaders having a chip on their shoulders worse than Putin. God save us!

[@messirve8321]

Good video incredible

[@oskar-zp9rd]

manifesting "what if everything went perfect for Poland"

[@xenius7770]

That was very interesting to see, it's not often that we see about african history. I hope we'll see more of it.

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

"Menelik II ruled until he was 69." Nice.

[@ThePanEthiopian]

Hell nah💀

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

@@ThePanEthiopian Hell yeah, Batman!

[@rebbybam230]

He was a king 😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂ofc he would rule untill he dies n his son will succeed 😂l The oromo people had democracy way of leading Thier tribes though , Ohh 😂I didn't s

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

@@rebbybam230 What?

[@extraordinarytv5451]

Also fun fact: during the timea of the Romans the Ethiopians had a great power nation called Aksum that did dominated red sea trade by owning the coast of Eritrea and Djibouti, as well as western Yemen and northern Ethiopia

[@dougfowler1368]

This was great! Maybe next do Brazil overcoming all their problems to become a superpower. Geography hurts, but I think they could be a superpower given the right circumstances.

[@hanifinio]

Unexpected but interesting vid!

[@JanGenchev]

This is by far one of my favourite videos so far. Maybe you could do something similar for nations like Iran, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico and Indonesia. Its really fun to see nation develop their untapped potential(especially Argentina).

[@johnyricco1220]

Hope you do a similar video on China.

[@theusareview7960]

04:59 "Causing Oromos to redirect to Adal territory instead" lmao u must not know ethiopian history. Oromos annihilated both the Adal/Harari sultanate and the Christian kingdom simultaneously even with all their foreign aid. You make it sound like they just strolled into the territory they conquered by chance 😂the Oromo armies had extreme military discipline, well organized, and one of the best cavalries in the world. The adals were basically reduced to a tiny walled town and the Christian kingdom dominated by an Oromo dynasty by the end of the affairs. Talk about winning a two front war

[@enddigital2377]

The guy who helped him make this video was a disingenuous individual.

[@volvagianintendo6465]

Kindly, cite thy data sources for this claim. I wish to know by myself whether this is true or not, for 'tis rather gripping and I know not much African yorelore outside of Egypt.

[@Raidou10]

Adal was enslaving Oromos for centuries to come, false history

[@Jonahum]

You've convinced me to take a trip to ethiopia

[@australiananarchist480]

I disagree that it is really unlikely for Italy to join the Allies. There were many in both French and British governments which admired the Italian fascist system, including Churchill and others. Without the Ethiopian war to break them apart, the Stresa Front may have come to full fruition, and perhaps even started ww2 over Austria, or Austria may even never be taken by Germany.

[@gengarzilla1685]

All of that relies upon Mussolini not invading this Ethiopia, which I disagree with. He really still would. And therein lies why it's unlikely Italy joins the Allies: Because they've sunk any avenue of co-operation with the west just like in our timeline.

[@michaelowino228]

Good video.

[@no_not_that_one]

Ngl I think Nigeria, Botswana, and Rwanda have pretty good shots at doing this in the next 30 or so years

[@balkaba3927]

definitely think Nigeria could do this, maybe botswana and rwanda would talk a lot more time though

[@gengarzilla1685]

Nigeria certainly has the population base for something like this, while Botswana has remarkably stable democratic institutions for an African nation. Rwanda though? Isn't that just the place where the embittered rump successors of the British Empire want to indiscriminately deport its "undesirables" to?

[@torinjones3221]

Ethiopia was believed to be the semi mythological kingdom of Prester John, a legendary christian nation that survived the islamic conquests in medieval times. This was one of the reasons it was never colonised until the 1900s.

[@hydronpowers9014]

Next Scenarios: 1. What if Russia mind its business in WW1 by being neutral and focusing on internal affairs? 2. What if the Soviet provided all of the oil that Japan needed?

[@lithunoisan]

Then it wouldn’t be a world war.

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

Yeah, I don't think France would support Serbia militarily...

[@gengarzilla1685]

We could ask the same first point about Germany. Austria invited the Russian intervention on itself through their overwhelmingly heavy handed response to the regrettable assassination. Germany had no legitimate cause to join Austria's offensive war as the Triple Alliance was supposed to be a defensive one.

[@Slashkig]

Ayo, new PH video just dropped

[@zhcultivator]

What if Everything went Perfect for Iran? What if the Abassid Caliphate industrialized? What if Carthage colonised the Carribean and Industrialised? What if the Indo-Europeans and Uralic peoples never existed? What if a Hmongic civilization existed in history? What if Anatolia was a Rainforest? What if the Iranian Plateau was a Rainforest and the USA was a huge desert like Australia? What if a Royal marriage occured between the Ethiopian Empire and Japan?

[@zayedbinimran957]

Bro you should explore the lore of kaiseriech but show it on maps

[@TaroTheBee]

M&M&M work goes crazy

[@hajustuggmun858]

Good vid

[@eleritreano7248]

Ethiopia has a great potential indeed. But, they need to improve education and create more opportunities.

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

We need to invest on quality education more than anything. We need to stop using foreign languages to teach scientific subjects in all higher education centers. Amharic needs to be reformed and become the sole official language.

[@awestruckcardboard3431]

Love this❤

[@LH44fanLM10fan]

Scenario Idea: What If the April Uprising of the Bulgarians success?

[@DrEdelweiss]

Video idea: An alternate history where Lichtenstein conquers the world/becomes a great power. How would this seemingly impoasible feat be accomplished?

[@merlinthefrenchie]

Hey who is that handsome guy from your research team?

[@TaroTheBee]

holy shit

[@Manface_productions]

How did you

[@rhyusbrand8311]

Merlin the Frenchmen?

[@leniwiectoksiu]

No way

[@apineapple3177]

I think he might be French that’s my guess

[@jave2274]

I was waiting for this. not only europe but the world as a playground

[@velocassini]

3:22 yes my ancestors helped Abyssinia

[@shirefarah2275]

Abyssinia got destroyed by Somalis with out any help 😂

[@tsedekeworkgoshu4617]

GREAT VIDEO! Thank you. Very informative & interesting.

[@Edunomat]

In this scenario, it's possible that Ethiopia conquered the Horn of Africa in WWII. 1) Ethiopia win the Second Italo-Ethiopian war and conquers Eritrea and Somalia. About the question "would Mussolini be stupid enough..." Yes, he was, ask to the Greeks. XD 2) When France become Vichy, Ethiopia could conquer Djibouti with the justification to prevent a axis-collaborationist colony. Allied thumbs up. 3) Ethiopia would be an important ally in Africa, specially in terms of supplies to North African front. If the Suez canal had fallen, UK would have been in danger. With that in mind, it isn't so crazy UK sold British Somaliland to keep Ethiopia in the war, is similar to Churchill's offer to give Northern Ireland in return of Ireland entered in the war. After decolonization, Ethiopia could leader Eastern African Union, it's its natural sphere of influence. I think the depth of this union depends of the experience of Ethiopia with integrate the Horn of Africa.

[@s1mullawarzinogaucho667]

Would be schizophrenic 💀

[@Hippobottomless]

Ethiopia never conquered Somalia and don’t ever dare the only reason they control the Ogaden a Somali territory is coz the British handed it over to them after the 20 yr Anglo-Somali war

[@Robloxantifurrism]

Bro, Ethiopia won the second because Ethiopia never surrendered and their was countined resistance by every single person in Ethiopia from the poorest farmers to the richest nobles. It ended in 1944 with Italy being destroyed by the British, Ethiopians, Belgium, and Free French kicking the Italians completely out of East Africa.

[@maddox3873]

This scenario is really interesting! What about if everything went perfect for Morocco?

[@floor737]

What if Sweden disappeared (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

[@wegdhass5587]

Agree

[@Alex-yy5wo]

Like.. the landmass just vanishes and water rushes in? Or thanos snap?

[@gengarzilla1685]

What if Norway escapes the Danish Kalmar Union while Sweden remains stuck in Denmark's hold? It sounds better for alternate history than having an entire landmass disappear.

[@mariogil1021]

You should do a “What if history went perfect for Italy”

[@mauruhkatigaming4807]

There are a few details this history misses. One major source of friction between Portugal and Ethiopia during the post-Adal Gondarine period in OTT was Portugal's insistence on converting Ethiopia to Roman Catholicism from Oriental Orthodoxy. This led to Emperor Fasilides expelling all Jesuits from the country. This period did see a minor renaissance of art and commerce nevertheless, but cutting ties to the West hindered them in the long term. Something would need to happen to prevent this - in addition to Ethiopia retaining a port, the tension would need to be resolved somehow. Either the Iberian Catholics decide to chill a little bit (doubtful), the Catholic conversion succeeds, or the Ethiopians maintain ties with other powers. The Russians would be a good choice, as they were in OTL. As far as what Ethiopian industrialization would look like, harnessing their substantial water power is probably where it would begin. The falls on the Blue Nile would be an excellent place to put some large-scale gristmills, turning Ethiopia into a major breadbasket. Utilizing the lignite reserves in the south would also be helpful. The more successful they are, the less Ethiopia resembles its traditional pluricentric self. We would see something like what happened in Italy or France, whereby non-Amharic regional languages diminish in importance.

[@solsolsolomon]

YESSS THANK YOU

[@Big_Black_311]

10:42 it’s super unlikely the Ethiopia would have takes control of any Somali cost or region because Ethiopian was already fighting a Soomaali rebellion at the time that didn’t stop until the early 1920s the revolt was the dervish movement and Ethiopia had already tried, but failed to take over Somali coastline before colonialism and lost The Battle of Luuq and to the dervish at the Battle of Jigjiga (1900) but in this alternate scenario, it is likely they would’ve defeated the dervish, and might have threatened the Somali coast, but I highly doubt they would have gone on the offensive into Italian Soomaliya

[@jhonywalker1168]

coastlines aside didn't Emperor Menelik conquer the Ogaden region? the Somalis say the British gave them Ogaden but i don't think thats true... even if its true Somalia would have taken Ogaden back if they were powerful

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

⁠​⁠@@jhonywalker1168 that’s right Ras Mekonnen WoldeMikael conquered Misraq Harargae. Somalis lost every single war they participated in. They have this false bravado to compensate for the fact that they’re Gohaf.

[@jhonywalker1168]

i never liked debating with them they're just emotional and immature.@@Zeyede_Seyum

[@Raidou10]

@@jhonywalker1168 No ethiopians occupied the Ogaden until the British signed it off, you seem a bit slow since you're guessing history instead of fact checking

[@muratbayraktar5035]

Bro become the alternatehistoryhub we wanted.