What if Germany Actually Won WW1 by Christmas?

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@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Ай бұрын
I feel like what many enthusiasts forget about the Germany captures Paris scenario is that all French support lines ran through the railways in Paris and there’s no major alternative railway routes that could supply France’s armies in Lorraine. They would essentially be forced to return to supply traines by mule and horse which would doom their chances to contest Germany in attritional warfare
@LeroxYT
@LeroxYT Ай бұрын
Also Germany would then have a big part of frances industry and better supply routes and occupie the french territorys with the highest population,which would have reduced frances manpower and Equipment significantly.
@alcibiades---7
@alcibiades---7 Ай бұрын
That, and the fact that in a victory in the Marne scenario, the French second army would be forced to retire from the Moselle, because otherwise it would be encircled by the German 5th and 6th armies. Which in turn means France abandoning Verdun, and its most densely fortified region, while also leaving a lot of heavy equipment to the Germans, and a more comprehensible frontline
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Ай бұрын
@@YuriPeres-hw8nn how come ?
@Ower8x
@Ower8x Ай бұрын
@@alcibiades---7 But that would only come into play if the war drags for longer, and the Germans can hold Paris and are not forced to retreat its not an immediate factor, so not much in play in this scenarion. Just taking Paris unless they destroy the rails on their retreat is not as much of a factor as people make it out. Now if the Germans are able to dig in and hold in you are right that would be crippling for the French Army at the German border. and may even force them to retreat from that area.
@weswolverine
@weswolverine Ай бұрын
@@YuriPeres-hw8nn and what's the problem with that?
@T.Hebert
@T.Hebert Ай бұрын
Ok, but what if the Entente won WW1 before Christmas
@barsukascool
@barsukascool Ай бұрын
By Christmas 1918
@shantanubaddar2559
@shantanubaddar2559 Ай бұрын
no shot
@PixelGunplaya-ei9fs
@PixelGunplaya-ei9fs Ай бұрын
@@5213q Both events are unrealistic
@Legend21for
@Legend21for Ай бұрын
I mean if thw entente won really fast then the treaty of Versailles would be really soft
@CrimsomGloryXD
@CrimsomGloryXD Ай бұрын
What if they made peace because of Christmas
@zacharymccann6632
@zacharymccann6632 Ай бұрын
The worst thing about this timeline is that there is no Christmas Truce song by Sabaton
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
I have that in my Christmas playlist
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
I guess we aren’t all brothers tonight
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 28 күн бұрын
Im more saddened by the lack of anime.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 28 күн бұрын
@ 🤓
@nobodylovesyou-y5b
@nobodylovesyou-y5b 15 күн бұрын
no Versailles either but we got Nuremberg or something like that
@Ryanlovedits
@Ryanlovedits Ай бұрын
7:03 Kaiser jumpscare
@Parziti14
@Parziti14 Ай бұрын
Lol😂
@beetlebg3759
@beetlebg3759 Ай бұрын
Kaiser Wilhelm: Electric Boogaloo II
@Piva-q8t
@Piva-q8t Ай бұрын
I noticed It too
@kaiserinjacky
@kaiserinjacky Ай бұрын
boo
@LordJimsworth
@LordJimsworth Ай бұрын
Kaiser was peak
@CrassSpektakel
@CrassSpektakel 29 күн бұрын
There is one thing missing: A victorious Germany would have the best prospects of becoming the first nuclear power in history. There is a scifi novel "Atomgewicht 500" written in 1929 and published in 1934 about nuclear technology, people eben back then knew exactly what nuclear power meant and it was so popular that this story became a best-seller back then. Just imagine Germany would have developed nuclear power and weapons in the 1930ths.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 29 күн бұрын
Anyway Nazi scientists stuck with heavy water. Novel is just Novel.
@averagedemocrat9546
@averagedemocrat9546 28 күн бұрын
Oh yeah that's a big one. The rise of the nsdap basically gave half of Germany's scientific power to America but even then, Germany was still really far ahead in many areas of engineering. In this kind of timeline, Germany would enjoy a similar dominance in science America does where professionals move there for the best education and opportunities which was already a trend happening.
@AwwsomeHistoryYT
@AwwsomeHistoryYT Ай бұрын
0:13 nah bro, I’m doing if WW2 ended by Christmas bc I’m built different💀
@KobeRogers-vw8nx
@KobeRogers-vw8nx Ай бұрын
Same I’m doing a What if WW2 Ended By Christmas in 1941 With Two Endings A Peace Ending and Another War Ending
@AwwsomeHistoryYT
@AwwsomeHistoryYT Ай бұрын
@ I’m making it so WW2 ends on the Christmas of 1939
@KobeRogers-vw8nx
@KobeRogers-vw8nx Ай бұрын
@@AwwsomeHistoryYT Nice
@qhu3878
@qhu3878 Ай бұрын
​@@AwwsomeHistoryYT what so the germans and soviets take poland and the allies choose to sort out a peace treaty instead of dragging out the war?
@AwwsomeHistoryYT
@AwwsomeHistoryYT Ай бұрын
@ you’ll see😏😈
@GustavSvard
@GustavSvard Ай бұрын
How about: What if France rejects Genua's offer to sell them Corsica? "Why would we want a pointless island that's already in years into an open rebellion when we can demand juicy concessions on your mainland holdings?"
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
It’s called Genoa in english
@lucianapalmisano918
@lucianapalmisano918 Ай бұрын
As an Italian *yes* (Possible History when are we getting an Italian Napoleon video)
@GustavSvard
@GustavSvard Ай бұрын
@@lucianapalmisano918 Napoleon as the uniter of Italy, starting from a republic (Corsica) and ending in an Emperor in Rome. It's a pretty obvious tale to tell!
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
@ that wouldn’t result in an Italian Napoleon. Sure Napoleon would exist, but he would do much
@eljedimexicano6737
@eljedimexicano6737 Ай бұрын
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Napoleon would quite likely still be sent to french military schools and serve as a general for the french republic (since the revolution obviously happens). But he could find support in a project of making an italian republic from the corsican republic, as he was a huge fan of Pasquale Paoli.
@maximusjackassicus3042
@maximusjackassicus3042 Ай бұрын
I don't know if it's unthinkable that France would surrender after Paris was captured, that's what happened during the Franco Prussian war, it's EXACTLY what happened during WWII. i can absolutely see France surrendering if the Germans capture Paris.
@comba3694
@comba3694 Ай бұрын
Absolutely not In the Franco-Prussian war and WW2 the French army were destroyed Here we have an army in good shape and an absolute hatred of the Germans with 40 years of propaganda and preparation to regain Alsace Lorraine
@bulkax303
@bulkax303 Ай бұрын
in the franco prussian war frances army was destroyed and napoleon was captured. By the time ww1 happened the battles where two armies meet and fight didnt happen and even if france lost paris the army would be still intact
@prussia77
@prussia77 Ай бұрын
will that happen in ww3 when russia capture Paris?
@schemsch_1692
@schemsch_1692 Ай бұрын
@@prussia77Russia would not even reach the German borders
@bulkax303
@bulkax303 Ай бұрын
@@schemsch_1692 Poland would stop Russia with Nato
@3chmidt
@3chmidt Ай бұрын
Realistically, if Wilhelm has something to say, then he would push for a milder peace treaty, since he never had any intent to expand in Europe, while politicians and military staff would say otherwise
@enysuntra1347
@enysuntra1347 29 күн бұрын
Let's see. Bismarck was quite overrated, but a brilliant strategist and quite powerful. There are reasons why he's on statues of Wilhelm very often depicted. William II just sacked him. Most German politicians came from the same Prussian aristocracy William came from. Industrialists tried to emulate the aristocratic lifestyle. It is quite possible that Germany and Austria-Hungary would even have ceded territory to the Polish buffer state they had started to create in 1914 - possible, not necessarily probable. Apart from that, Germany was but 43 in 1914, and the last remnants of it being just a lose confederation coming together in foreign and defence policies were abolished post-1933. The iron ore areas were common sense to annex to prevent France from again arming up in such a short time, but even Luxemburg would be left alone (it still is a monarchy). Germany had the territory it wanted, perhaps it would have taken some colonies to complement the ones it already had - but again, this would have happened already in 1871.
@sethanpayne6324
@sethanpayne6324 29 күн бұрын
But taking that small strip of French Steel was easily a must. It wasn’t that much on the map
@enysuntra1347
@enysuntra1347 29 күн бұрын
@sethanpayne6324 Not necessarily; otherwise, it would already have happened in 1871. If it would have happened after WW1, however, France could still have compensated for it through imports from the colonies. Let's also not forget that IRL, France found ways to neutralise 2/3 of the German steel regions (Saar and Ruhr, with the 3rd being Silesia) of German steel production without annexing anything at all.
@azlanadil3646
@azlanadil3646 29 күн бұрын
@ Which French colonies produced Iron in any meaningful quantity? Not being sarcastic, just genuinely want to know.
@pacivalmuller9333
@pacivalmuller9333 29 күн бұрын
Germany would get many colonies
@breadster1981
@breadster1981 Ай бұрын
What if everything went perfect for Hungary but it's just a timeline without Austria
@ulfzurirksourzukfzofzoufzo5377
@ulfzurirksourzukfzofzoufzo5377 Ай бұрын
What if the Italians kept speaking Latin ?
@oc8636
@oc8636 Ай бұрын
Does that mean that the Austrians stay Bavarians and never split off or that Germans never even settle Austria?
@mishaf19
@mishaf19 Ай бұрын
I literally never see the Italians keep speaking Latin Italy was and is the most linguistically diverse place in Europe as a result of strong regional loyalties. Changing that means changing all of Italian history.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Ай бұрын
@oc8636maybe Bavaria wins the war of Austrian succession and the Habsburgs become the sovereigns of Hungary only
@dinosauropiccolo742
@dinosauropiccolo742 Ай бұрын
​@@mishaf19 Charlemagne does not promote culture and so no definitive cristalization of the Latin Language as an attribute of the clergy emerges so every single Romance speaking people can just claim to be speaking the current day version of Latin. That's pretty much the only way this could happen, if you mean it as everyone speaks Latin and not only State Institutions.
@TeSu-fs7mp
@TeSu-fs7mp Ай бұрын
I've got a suggestion: What if the 1922 union treaty wasn't signed, preventing the SSRs from uniting (but keeping them as a vassal to the RSFSR)?
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
Can’t imagine that would change anything. Stalin would absolutely treat them as part of the same state
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
I guess post Soviet borders would be different, mainly in Central Asia
@RexPomaro
@RexPomaro 28 күн бұрын
I don’t see how this would even happen. Pretty much all of the revolutionaries wanted a union treaty, so it might just have happened later
@TeSu-fs7mp
@TeSu-fs7mp 28 күн бұрын
@RexPomaro Kid named suspension of disbelief:
@RexPomaro
@RexPomaro 28 күн бұрын
@@TeSu-fs7mp fair enough, but it’s just unlikely it would change anything. That treaty was more a formality than anything else
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Ай бұрын
MERRY CHRISTMAS POSSIBLE HISTORY! 🎁🎁❤️❤️❤️🎄🎄🎄
@Piva-q8t
@Piva-q8t Ай бұрын
Merry christmas!
@Bartholomew-h9q
@Bartholomew-h9q Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas to y'all
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@tuki3674
@tuki3674 Ай бұрын
Feliz navidad 🎄
@FlowerPotsM
@FlowerPotsM Ай бұрын
@@tuki3674FELIZ NAVIDAD
@essander7826
@essander7826 Ай бұрын
As a German this is certainly a merry Christmas for me.
@thecatfather857
@thecatfather857 Ай бұрын
As an American who feels the world would be in a better place today if we had aligned with the Central Powers rather than the Entente…. I agree.
@GlizzyGoblin757
@GlizzyGoblin757 Ай бұрын
@@thecatfather857americans are so embarrassing
@LordJimsworth
@LordJimsworth Ай бұрын
​@thecatfather857 fr bro in ireland if the central powers won we wouldn't have to have an independence war (also i just like the idea of the kaiser)
@OneLostTexan
@OneLostTexan Ай бұрын
@@thecatfather857as another American I concur.
@harmenaltena6883
@harmenaltena6883 Ай бұрын
As an anti-French, this is also a very merry Christmas to me
@NickAndriadze
@NickAndriadze Ай бұрын
Great video, I think it's pretty accurate in terms of early German victory concessions, it's true that even if it as short, such a global and unconditional war would still see Germany pushing for a TON of gains. *11:25* I usually don't check the ''sneak peak for upcoming videos'' thing you bring up in most of your videos, but I'm super excited for the what if Decembrists won. It could spiral out into a much, MUCH more competent and powerful Russia, plus no Soviet Union.
@overworlder
@overworlder 29 күн бұрын
i like you showed the dual monarchy as a dual monarchy
@kuro1132
@kuro1132 29 күн бұрын
@@overworlder Ye, alt-hist youtubers are finally evolving and actually doing their research on Austria-Hungary
@enysuntra1347
@enysuntra1347 29 күн бұрын
16:45 Franz Ferdinand was in Sarajevo in the first place because he prepared to reform Austria-Hungary into a Trialist state, Austria-Hungary-Croatia. It is very possible it would have integrated Serbia into its Croatian part, but Austria and Hungary itself was devolving to a great extent. You see that IRL in that the successor states of both Alt-Österreich and the Kingdom of Hungary were successful from the start, devolution post 1866 already gave them a great deal of autonomy. What this video is ignoring is that A LOT of the European nations were "overseas", and Algeria was considered an integral part of France until the 1960s (meaning, France didn't consider Algeria as a colony, but as France proper). Belgium had the Congo, annexing Belgium would mean Germany had to administer the Congo where Belgium created a model of how NOT to govern a colony. Luxemburg would of course stay independent. It was a monarchy. Until the 1920s, and to a certain extent until ~1935-38, Germany was not a unified contry but a close confederation of sovereign states that had relinquished foreign and defence policies to the Empire. Even if Luxemburg was made part of the Empire, that would mean it had a common currency (it had that until €uro with Belgium), and its foreign policy would be made in Berlin. Czarist Great Russia was beyond saving. It didn't fall to external force, but to internal rifts the war but accelerated, same with the Ottoman Empire.
@SuperCrow02
@SuperCrow02 29 күн бұрын
Wouldn't work. The empire would be even more unstable, he made a video on this.
@enysuntra1347
@enysuntra1347 28 күн бұрын
@@SuperCrow02 So, politicians in the KuK empire deliberated on this, what it may have resulted in looks like a kind of a European Union a bit closer together, it had worked for 60 years already in the KuK monarchy, but it wouldn't work because Some Guy on the Internet™ "made a video about it"? Colour me unconvinced. Fact of the matter is, there's a reason why historiography abhors speculation. There are "safe bets" that collapsed, and instances of something being "too unstable" prevailing so their successor states exist to this day. It is true that my guess would be that had Trialism prevailed, there would have been three nations afterwards that eventually, like the British Commonwealth, only shared the representative rôle of the monarch; but a multi-ethnic state was and is the norm, not the exception - in fact, the majority of people today live in multi-ethnic states like China, India, Indonesia, or Russia.
@schad1738
@schad1738 Ай бұрын
Ain't no way we're getting what if everything went perfect for AUSTRALIA before ITALY bro RIP italy guy, someone check on him
@heart4740
@heart4740 Ай бұрын
Austria-Hungary doomers usually ignore the fact that the empire was economically stable and prosperous.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Ай бұрын
Prosperous only for the elites
@bagrbagrovsky
@bagrbagrovsky Ай бұрын
And the fact that most of thei industry was in bohemia which was one of the most stable region
@kuro1132
@kuro1132 Ай бұрын
Yeah, they're unable to comprehend that it was a functional state and could have continued in its status quo for decades more
@arden7713
@arden7713 Ай бұрын
It really wasn't that prosperous for the the majority of the empire
@kuro1132
@kuro1132 Ай бұрын
@@arden7713 Statistics unfortunately disprove your argument
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 28 күн бұрын
Theres a difference between puppet and satalight. In a puppet state the overlord is directly involved in the puppets government, it has no sovereignty. Where as a satalight state has a government that operates independantly, but must pay homage to the hegimon or be invaded and made in to a puppet if not annexed.
@shizhauwe
@shizhauwe Ай бұрын
Almost at 200k, nice christmas gift, PH
@GermannDude
@GermannDude Ай бұрын
Idea: What if Possible history reaches 200.000 subscribers before the end of the year.
@tt_sallie
@tt_sallie 29 күн бұрын
As of the time I'm watching, he's done it.
@planetarystargazer
@planetarystargazer Ай бұрын
Astronomy Idea: What If the hypothetical planet between our Sun and Mercury (Vulcan) existed today
@theirishgamer10
@theirishgamer10 Ай бұрын
Vulcan would invade France with Germany, ending the war (and probs the world) in 1914
@matthijsreus9656
@matthijsreus9656 Ай бұрын
You are under estimating the british riverine fleet. It would at least be 1915
@Xidir68
@Xidir68 Ай бұрын
what i always wonder about is what if the germans put their focus on russia first only holding their lines with france (obviously without attacking belgium so they have more men for the east and also not to anger the UK atleast until russia is defeated). I know its not the same as in real life but when i play hoi4 ww1 mods thats how i do it and it feels way easier then first focusing on france and then russia.
@Xidir68
@Xidir68 Ай бұрын
how realistic do you find the hoi4 kaiserreich scenario?
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Ай бұрын
I feel like Germany would at least want to expand their polish puppet into some of the insanely fertile Belarusian soil and I don’t see Germany not trying to get the Baltic’s, which had a large industry and large German population (for Russia’s standard)
@Schnitzelfox
@Schnitzelfox Ай бұрын
as austrtian I am a big prussia/germany hater, but I have to say that I hate it that it never gets mentioned, that democracy/progress/liberalism or however you call it was on the rise in germany. in 1912 the social democrats became the biggest party with 29 percent. And the Kaiser bassicly lost a lost of influence and power cause of him being crazy. If the trend continued germany would probably have become a proper constitional system with strong left/liberal/progresive influences. And that was 1 of the reasons why the generals/prussian militarists/right wing government wanted to have a war now. Because they (IMO rightfully) feared that in a few years, they would not have the influence and controll over germany to be able to go to war.
@abdurrehmannasir5963
@abdurrehmannasir5963 Ай бұрын
in that case I can still see liberal democracy be delayed because of the prestige and glory of the war. Sort of like when Bismarck only really agreed to having colonies so as to support the conservatives in their elections.
@Schnitzelfox
@Schnitzelfox Ай бұрын
@@abdurrehmannasir5963 Very true, the conservative forces would have gotten a popularity boost. but I dont see any of the long term trends wich caused teh liberalisaiton of germany to change.
@edgarhilbert4797
@edgarhilbert4797 29 күн бұрын
I hate you most than Hitler, but the Kaiser sympathy to the demonics was the thing that killed Germany. You shall never symphatize with the religion of name democracy, nor with the crowd of workers shall have the right to steal.
@cattraknoff
@cattraknoff 29 күн бұрын
@@Schnitzelfox If this had happened though then it would be possible that the biggest genocides of the 20th century could have been prevented - although at the cost of the forgotten Armenian one getting even worse. But tens of millions who died under Stalin, along with the holocaust, and even the rise of Maoist China, could have all been prevented in this timeline which would allow Germany to continue to liberalize gradually while it also dominated Europe. The rest of Europe would have become more liberal as well as Germany led the way.
@amazingdragonboy1202
@amazingdragonboy1202 Ай бұрын
Please do what if everything went perfect for San Marino
@barsukascool
@barsukascool Ай бұрын
Bruh
@searingsword-4-21
@searingsword-4-21 Ай бұрын
That's the current timeline. Hundreds of years of peace and independence by doing litterally nothing but being friends with the two people that mattered (the Pope and Garibaldi)
@squirtleawesome1064
@squirtleawesome1064 29 күн бұрын
Re-forms the Roman Republic
@drosera68
@drosera68 Ай бұрын
It's a Christmas Miracle
@stephenquinn3447
@stephenquinn3447 Ай бұрын
Now do what if the Entente won by Christmas
@amsalkhan4754
@amsalkhan4754 Ай бұрын
U have to wait till next year
@mramogus1032
@mramogus1032 Ай бұрын
nothing would change lmao
@azlanadil3646
@azlanadil3646 Ай бұрын
@@mramogus1032 Uhhhhh… the Soviet Union wouldn’t exist, and the Ottoman Empire would still exist. That’s two right there.
@mramogus1032
@mramogus1032 Ай бұрын
@@azlanadil3646 The Ottomens would collapse no matter what they were already crippled and the russian empire was already so weak it would collapse anyway into the soviet union
@azlanadil3646
@azlanadil3646 Ай бұрын
@ “The ottomans would collapse no matter what” Why? “The Russians would collapse int other Soviet Union” again, why? You’re making a lot of assumptions that have absolutely no basis. To be frank you’re showing a complete misunderstanding of History to the degree that it casts doubt on your ability to function in other fields of your life. Also, you misspelt Ottoman.
@Leander05
@Leander05 Ай бұрын
The Main Problem with the Schlieffenplan was that the Italians didn’t joined the war immediately on Germany’s side, because it was planed, that they play a crucial role in the defeating of France (if the Italians joined the Schlieffenplan would probably be way more effective and successful)
@edgarhilbert4797
@edgarhilbert4797 29 күн бұрын
More successful or successful?
@ItzLucky90
@ItzLucky90 29 күн бұрын
@@edgarhilbert4797yes
@bibbedcracker121
@bibbedcracker121 Ай бұрын
What if Possible History actually made a, “What if everything went PERFECT for Italy?” video?
@Ercwe
@Ercwe Ай бұрын
Suggestion; What if everything went perfect for Romania?
@lohtupottu
@lohtupottu Ай бұрын
It's nice to see that the maps are slowly getting more and more detail.
@dqnkdoggo_
@dqnkdoggo_ Ай бұрын
Great Video, and Merry Christmas!
@LT.KiraHertling1701
@LT.KiraHertling1701 Ай бұрын
11:21 Please, What if everything went perfect for Brazil?
@prussia77
@prussia77 Ай бұрын
territories they get Uruguay French Guyana Bolivia Paraguay Northern Chile Southern Colombia Guyana Dominican Republic Angola Grece Lydia Edirne Kamerun Togoland Mozambique Guinea-Bissau Cape Verde Lübeck, Bremen and Hamburg
@skol1004
@skol1004 Ай бұрын
​@@prussia77 They also get Alaska and the entirety of the British Empire
@foshershmul1648
@foshershmul1648 Ай бұрын
The French did in fact almost lose around a quarter of their army that was defending against the initial assault by encirclement. Only German communications issues prevented it.
@Traderns2020
@Traderns2020 29 күн бұрын
Please continue this timeline🙏
@FrancisMugo-j9g
@FrancisMugo-j9g Ай бұрын
Love your videos
@alexisg1147
@alexisg1147 29 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas, everyone, and keep it up with the amazing work PH
@tatertotpotato7157
@tatertotpotato7157 23 күн бұрын
I love your videos man they are all so interesting!!
@flyingpig557
@flyingpig557 Ай бұрын
Love your content, God bless you
@shizhauwe
@shizhauwe Ай бұрын
22:06 rewriting history reference??
@rewriting-history
@rewriting-history 28 күн бұрын
We all know that Possible History watched Kaisertum
@GermannDude
@GermannDude 28 күн бұрын
​@@rewriting-history french nationalist?
@HeckticGame
@HeckticGame Ай бұрын
Then more people would be eating pfefferpotthast for breakfast
@Hraher
@Hraher Ай бұрын
Sounds like a dream
@mariosvourliotakis
@mariosvourliotakis Ай бұрын
And speak German
@carlstein9278
@carlstein9278 Ай бұрын
what is pfefferpotthast!?
@Just_some_dude_guy
@Just_some_dude_guy Ай бұрын
8:30 If Russia gave up Serbia to the Austrians, Bulgaria might not even matter. What stopped Austria from overruning Bulgaria was the fact that they had almost all of their forces in the Galician Front
@JackSardonic
@JackSardonic Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Possible History and subs
@cane1657
@cane1657 Ай бұрын
I think that you undervalue the impact that german capture of Paris would have. French national spirit would be drastically weakened, the most industrial area of France would be lost, a lot of soldiers would die in the defence of Paris and alternative battle of the Marne. Germans would push for bigger concesions from Russia, even if it would require longer war. One of the biggest reasons for germany to go to war was to attack before Russia manages to industrialize, something like creating an Ukrainian state would make entente unable to compete with germany even after Russia industrializes.
@Perrirodan1
@Perrirodan1 29 күн бұрын
I also think the video forced the war to stop early, Germany would want the baltics and Ukraine Belarus (basically Breat litovsk.
@chrisalex82
@chrisalex82 Ай бұрын
btw where is the link to your google drive with all the maps ?
@cazza358
@cazza358 21 күн бұрын
In real life, it seems like democracy and decolinisation were an inevitable part of progress, but I wonder in this timeline if things would be different, or if eventually they would still happen.
@grandmanitou6563
@grandmanitou6563 Ай бұрын
Ok so a little precision, this entire period wasn't called the "victorian era" and that sure wasn't a proof of british hegemony or whatever the Anglo historical revisionism complex pushes as true. The only people that use that term are the brits themselves, it's like saying the Meiji Era in Japan is proof of Japan's hegemon status, that's beyond absurd. Also, no, Britain was obviously not above other nations at that time, that's just propaganda, while they did have the biggest economy and could maneuver European politics from the safety of their island status, they were actually quite the second fiddle in every major European conflicts and always had to rely on playing a support role for stronger powers, like France in WWI or the various coalitions during the Napoleonic Wars. It is as such the total opposite of what you are saying, Britain was the very nation resigned to fighting for second place, and always doing their hardest to prevent the strongest continental powers from growing too much and reaching hegemon status, since any of those not being distracted by conflicts between each other would have meant Britain being gobbled up by the victor with no chance to resist. In fact the one thing that broke this cycle poor Britain was trapped into was the rise of the US, now the UK can just grovel at the safety of the hegemon's feet since it is their biggest ally.
@bigenglishmonkey
@bigenglishmonkey Ай бұрын
i see you got salt for christmas.
@grandmanitou6563
@grandmanitou6563 29 күн бұрын
@@bigenglishmonkey I wish I could have had your argumentative skills instead.
@bigenglishmonkey
@bigenglishmonkey 29 күн бұрын
@grandmanitou6563 I don't. Need to make an argument to prove you wrong. History, reality, and your giant comment to try and change history is proof enough. 2 world wars, only country Germany was afraid to fight was Britain. Only country that could cut off entire continents from the world was Britain. Britain even had the 3rd largest army in the world during those wars too, so that's the not competing claim out.
@CoeGr
@CoeGr 29 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas PH!
@stefanblumberg4928
@stefanblumberg4928 Ай бұрын
I think its possible that Germany will pressure France into sceeding Savoy and Nice and maybe even Corsica to Italy and therefore tempering with Italo-French Relations. They would in turn demand from Italy to finally drop their claims on Austrian Lands.
@lizrickman7875
@lizrickman7875 15 күн бұрын
Do you think you could make a scenario were Georgia stays loyal to the crown during the American revolution, and becomes like a Canada of the south, assuming the other 12 colonies still get their Independence, how would this effect future wars, 1812, the civil war?
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806
@talesferreiralimadossantos8806 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas, PH!!
@BritainXD
@BritainXD Ай бұрын
congrats on 200k!
@NasirFarooq-hv3pm
@NasirFarooq-hv3pm 29 күн бұрын
Congrats on 200k Subs❤
@cookiekiller90
@cookiekiller90 24 күн бұрын
Why is this guy never doing any useful alt history scenario. "France would never surrender because of Paris blablabla goes on with idiotic assumptions based on nothing." Then basically gets debunked by his own YT comment section pointing out the most obvious stuff.
@aarontheamazing1985
@aarontheamazing1985 Ай бұрын
I love this guy's videos
@GödekeMichels_72
@GödekeMichels_72 29 күн бұрын
I think in this scenario it will also be hard for Russia and the UK to stay on good terms in the long run. With losing the Balkan Russia's imperial ambitions have to swing back to the far east again where they will once again clash with British ambitions. It's why many people say had WW1 not broken out when it did the global situation might have been quite different since the UK and Russia already started to o not ge on good terms once again.
@Official-IP
@Official-IP Ай бұрын
Cool video and Merry Christmas!
@franzxaverjosephconradgraf6850
@franzxaverjosephconradgraf6850 Ай бұрын
Even Karl's more reconcilatory approach when he came to power or perhaps Franz Josef surviving as the symbol of Unity for his Empire, a more liberal Austria-Hungary is still possible in my opinion in 1918 but no way the Ottmans can hold together after nearly all of its Southern territory was overrun by 1918 and even Anatolia,the Turkish homeland likely facing invasion..They will likely fall apart just like in our timeline
@CZARADODARUSSIA
@CZARADODARUSSIA Ай бұрын
20:47 even russia fell to self improvement videos
@barsukascool
@barsukascool Ай бұрын
Lol
@Stormgamer-xb7gv
@Stormgamer-xb7gv Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas! 🎅🎄
@chasecoughlim751
@chasecoughlim751 29 күн бұрын
We need a pt2 on this
@chasecoughlim751
@chasecoughlim751 29 күн бұрын
@possiblehistory
@gimelnus
@gimelnus Ай бұрын
thanhanks foruploading a vid while i wait for the rest of my family to wake for well... today.
@CZARADODARUSSIA
@CZARADODARUSSIA Ай бұрын
so we can have japan atacking pearl harbor in ww2 as an allied power and USA joining central powers?
@Bryzerse
@Bryzerse 28 күн бұрын
ooo fancy cinematography - how long before 3d rendered globe with detailed topography and solar cycle sim??
@SerialDesignationIce.34
@SerialDesignationIce.34 Ай бұрын
Marry Christmas @Possible History
@NikunjA1027
@NikunjA1027 21 күн бұрын
If you put thought to it, the Germans weren't the bad guys in WW2, the Serbians were. They hired a shooter to kill Austrian monarchs, thus Germany helped its ally, but then Serbia called in Russia, Russia called in it's ally who despised Germany, and France(the Russian ally) called in Britain. With this scenario, France wouldn't exist but other than that, the Weimar Republic would've never formed, as the Kaiser would be in power, so no Adolf taking power, no him adopting the misconception of eugenics to murder Jews, no WW2 and ultimately a lesser divide between America and the Soviets, but America would've also prospered, as they could maintain neutrality, other than competing with the Soviet Union(in a mild competition), no expansion of communism into Europe as it would be occupied by Germany, who at some point would become democratic, and Britain, would likely cede a lot of their colonies to handle things back home, leading to decolonization significantly faster, which Germany at some point in the future would follow. A smaller less powerful France would probably exist, but us humans would not have nuclear weapons(or we would have a lot less of it), making the world a much more peaceful place today, as America never had to fight in WW2 because it never happened, so no nuking Japan, and overall, just Germany winning the only World War would make the French people unhappy, maybe a revolt or two that restores their power without harming Germany too much, but it would impact the world so much, and make it a better place today.
@checker297
@checker297 9 күн бұрын
lolwut, all major powers pre-ww1 were looking for an excuse for a war. The assasination was just a convenient excuse for a casus belli. Even assuming nothing happened for say 30-40 years, nuclear weapons absolutely would have been still invented and probably would have been used because they would have been stockpiled similar to the cold war, but there would be no public idea of how deadly they could be, thus more hawkish views of war could prevail.
@alt1f4
@alt1f4 29 күн бұрын
make a what if everything went perfect for brazil PLEASE
@stargazer-elite
@stargazer-elite Ай бұрын
Suggestion: What if the good relations of the USA and Russian empire turned into a full on alliance after the sale of Alaska?
@PropagandalfderWeiße
@PropagandalfderWeiße 3 күн бұрын
What a lot of People miss about the Schlieffenplan was, that it also entailed a feigned retreat from alsace laurraine, letting the french believe that they are capturing it and have them pour even more troops into the kettle, kind of a revolving door movement (tat is actually how it is described in the german manuals), which actually fully alligned with the french battleplan, who wanted to go into alsace laurraine full force. The only problem why this didn't happen is the damned bavarians, who were supposed to be beaten back by the french, and the damned bavarians couldn't stick to the plan and pushed the french back, going into the offensive.
@WormholeJim
@WormholeJim Ай бұрын
We can see how it might have turned out in 1914/1915 if the Schlieffen plan has worked to spec, if we look at Fall Gelb during WWII. The main two reasons that the plan didn't come to fruition with the capture of Paris in '14/'15 was in the overall perspective a lack of the mobility, the plan necessitated. This mobility was available in force 25 years later, and was then further emphacized with Guderian's famous push through the Ardennes, which can be argued was what put the French and the british Expeditionary force decidely on the defensive fror the upcoming battle of France. Second reason is that the Russians invaded Germany sooner than it was anticipated. Even if the Russians was initially stopped (among other means by the war's first use of chemical warfare, although highly unsuccesful) and then pushed back by september 1914, German highcommend still prioritized reinforcing the eastern, using the troops that was allocated the assault on Paris to do so. The Schlieffen plan was put on hold indefinitely, then cancelled as the French defenses rapidly grew more complex and soon made the plan impossible to carry through.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 29 күн бұрын
Nah, we can't. Fall Gelb was altered with Mansteins offer of Breakthrough in Ardennes. And French army acted in different ways. In WW2 they rushed to Belgium to Dale river to establish advanced defense. In WW1 run to the sea happened after Battle of Marne.
@Bartholomew-h9q
@Bartholomew-h9q Ай бұрын
Aye lets go Possible History uploaded anyways Merry Christmas to you all
@timtyoutube87
@timtyoutube87 28 күн бұрын
I think its good 1914 christmas winning and changing the entire timeline. I like it. Thank you for sharing.
@Someone42527
@Someone42527 Ай бұрын
Hey, can you please make a part 2 to your what if the Axis won WW2 video? I want to know what you would predict the post war politics to be like
@georgian4516
@georgian4516 Ай бұрын
I think you should do a kaiserreich second weltkrieg review and how Germany/the Third International/Russia could or couldn't win.
@theslimeking7138
@theslimeking7138 Ай бұрын
Why is no one talking about the updated map good job man and merry Christmas
@nick66914
@nick66914 Ай бұрын
Wonderful video
@DumbCup
@DumbCup Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas everyone
@fissis1955
@fissis1955 29 күн бұрын
B-b-based timeline?!
@qwerty3-zt1oo
@qwerty3-zt1oo 29 күн бұрын
cringe because Austria Hungary still exists
@LJamesAltadonna3
@LJamesAltadonna3 Ай бұрын
Can you do an Ultranationalist France. That would be fun to see.
@pacquac9958
@pacquac9958 Ай бұрын
For a true winter season, how about a scenario about Antartica?
@theirishgamer10
@theirishgamer10 Ай бұрын
What if the penguins attacked in 1983?
@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead
@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead 29 күн бұрын
remember, in most realistic central power victories france has some fight left in them, so if they completely capitulate the peace deal might be *worse* for france than traditional central power victories
@yuraiakuma
@yuraiakuma Ай бұрын
I would be interested over a what if video that theres a Scramble of China like the Scramble of Africa.
@legaullonapoleonien8760
@legaullonapoleonien8760 Ай бұрын
And what if the Entente won by Christmas, especially France. We als believed we would have won by Christmas.
@robertdowling4673
@robertdowling4673 Ай бұрын
Day ten of asking for videos I'd like to see. -What if the confederacy won the civil war. -What if Italy was militarily competent in ww2 -what if Italy sided with the allies in ww2 -what if the dinosaurs never went extinct (this isn't really history but still cool) -what if the cold war went nuclear -what if Italy sided with the central powers -what if Charles Babbage had successfully completed his analytical engine
@joaojonito3764
@joaojonito3764 Ай бұрын
1- Mostly Impossible 2- Hardly possible 3- Mildly possible 4- Based 5- Possible 6- Hardly possible 7- Idk about this one
@Aranthappyrobot
@Aranthappyrobot Ай бұрын
With the Cold War one, short term, we’d all die or be starving. Long term, the balance of power will tip in the global south’s favor, make no mistake, they’d still be impacted quite terribly, but when’s all said and done they’d have the potential to recover better.
@dividewalker5673
@dividewalker5673 Ай бұрын
The only way I'd accept a CSA victory video is if it's like his WW2 Germany victory video where he focuses on the horrific human rights violations that would ensue from such a regime being unleashed on the world.
@robertdowling4673
@robertdowling4673 Ай бұрын
​@@dividewalker5673 A confederate victory scenario wouldn't be that dystopian compared to an axis one for two reasons. 1-A csa victory would be pretty much excluded to the American south. Or at the very most the Mexican gulf region of North America. Where as an axis victory would be more global. Affecting much of afro-Eurasia. So any damage that would be done would be pretty minor. 2-I doubt the confederacy would keep slavery legal. As the practice was not only morally no longer acceptable but economically unsustainable. At most they'd probably have it until around 1900. At which point they'd probably replace it with an apartied like system. Since that basically happened in a world where they lost. It could be argued not much would change. Except things would be slightly worse for African Americans for a little bit longer. Since the north wouldn't have to deal with the racist south. It's possible minority rights would of been better in the remaining us. Making this timeline somewhat of a blessing in disciuse.
@robertdowling4673
@robertdowling4673 Ай бұрын
@@dividewalker5673 ​ I'm sorry i thought youtube didn't get my comment through. So I posted it twice.
@lemon5730
@lemon5730 Ай бұрын
MERRRY CHRISTMAS ALL MY GOOD HISTORY FANS AROUND THE WORLD
@lerneanlion
@lerneanlion Ай бұрын
Well, Britain needed to shift the focus to the Panama Canal after they lost the war and also need to strengthen the position of the Falkland Islands in order to safely use its shipyards as naval bases as well. And for the time being, Britain needed to maintain the alliance with Japan much longer and might even be willing to recognize the latest among the secret agreements between Russia and Japan about the division of their spheres of influences in China while also fostering good relations with the U.S in order to gain access to the Panama Canal. With the Panama Canal secured and Canada remained one of Britain's dominions, the British shipping companies can have goods to Russia either through Canada or through the Panama Canal. Also, you mentioned nothing about the results of what happened in Asia at all. So does Germany still have New Guinea after the war ended or have they been seized by Japan and Britain already? And if the latter is the case, do they have to return them to Germany after the war ended with victory for the Central Powers or do they get to keep them if Germany proritized Europe and Africa over New Guinea? And in case of the Ottoman Empire, the Sublime Porte may eventually come to realize that their time in the Balkans is over and shift the focus to the Arabian peninsula instead in order to secure the oil there in an attempt to restore the economy. As a result, the Hejaz Railway and the railway from Berlin to Baghdad will be among the top priorities of the Sublime Ottoman State. This is, of course, if they no longer wanted to provoke a war with Italy over the claims over Rhodes and the rest of the Dodecanese Islands, of course. And they may also have to compromise with the Armenians as well by allowing limited local autonomy by looking at how Bosnia is being governed ever since it was taken in 1878 by Austria-Hungary such as issuing the decree of religious tolerance and allowing the locals to elect the mayors in their own cities. As for Austria-Hungary, they most likely go through with reorganizing the Dual Monarchy into the Triple Monarchy, aka Austria-Hungary-Croatia and also have the Serbian government itself purged of all influences of the Black Hand and install the new government that is pro-Habsburg Monarchy like you said in the video in order to safeguard Bosnia. But with Bulgaria is now in control of most of Vardar Macedonia, does this mean they have to abandon the plan to make a dash to Salonica or decide to compromise this out with Bulgaria later on? Back to Italy a bit, do they have to return Vlorë back to Albania after they invaded and have it occupied with the war ended in victory for the Central Powers? If they do not retreated, will it led to a war with Greece? After all, Greece has plan for Albania too if I remembered correctly.
@DefinitelyACircle
@DefinitelyACircle 29 күн бұрын
11:24 I paused the video for a while, and when I came back to watch the video about 3 hours after pausing it, I get jumpscared with a "Thank you"
@ntm4
@ntm4 Ай бұрын
I wonder what WW1 would have looked like with a reverse Schlieffen plan. Germany decides to hold the French along the much shorter front in Alsace-Lorraine, while devoting most of their army to knocking out the eastern front before the full might of the Russian Bear can be mobilized.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 29 күн бұрын
Well, Russia would retreat from Poland and Lithuania just like IRL. France would have time to mobilize and push into Germany ( General Joffre was strong proponent of offensive warfare) . So Germans would have to traverse their armies west and counter-attack France. British participation in war would be delayed, but they would join Entente eventually. TL DR: German situation would be worse, but Austro- Hungarian situation would be better as Russians won't be able to push into Galicia. You basically offer what Germans did in WW2, but Russian Empire is bigger than Poland and lacked railroads so armies moved with speed of infatntry, and 1914 France wasn't defeatist, they wanted a revanche for 1871. Also there were no tiredness of war in 1914 Russia, yet.
@wockreaper
@wockreaper 9 күн бұрын
That was the main strategy of the German military prior to the schlieffenplan. It might have resulted in enough gains to secure a victory after Russia surrendered or capitulated.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 9 күн бұрын
@@wockreaper but would Russia surrender? IRL they didn't want to sign peace even after failed Kerensky offensive in 1917.
@EarthenDam
@EarthenDam Ай бұрын
Losing Poland is not getting off light for Russia, that was a huge source of food for Russia, on par with Ukraine.
@joaogabrielimperial7777
@joaogabrielimperial7777 Ай бұрын
hmmm
@gerandace9
@gerandace9 29 күн бұрын
The most valuable agricultural land in Russian Empire was in Eastern and Southern Ukraine and the Central Black Earth Region around Kursk and Voronezh. Whilst Poland does have some Chernozem soil it’s nothing compared to Russia and Ukraine.
@gerandace9
@gerandace9 29 күн бұрын
That being said Congress Poland was the largest exporter of zinc in Europe and had a large textile industry. Agriculture was still important but the main value is that it was one of the most important industrial areas of the Russian Empire after Moscow and St Petersburg. In conclusion not a deathblow to the Russian economy but certainly not light either.
@Nater_Po_Tater
@Nater_Po_Tater 29 күн бұрын
Hi I have been watching your all your videos and the redone peace deals really intrigued me an I was wondering if you could link the maps please so me and my friends could do something similar
@ΔημήτρηςΔημόπουλος-ο7ψ
@ΔημήτρηςΔημόπουλος-ο7ψ Ай бұрын
7:34 he called germany "rome" 💀
@EliMillhiser-w7q
@EliMillhiser-w7q Ай бұрын
Germany is Rome wdym?
@wappa2832
@wappa2832 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@oooshafiqooo
@oooshafiqooo Ай бұрын
This is far better than what i anticipated would happened if the plan succeeds, that scenario i made is dated like months ago i think
@aidenlemar3414
@aidenlemar3414 Ай бұрын
You should do a sequel! Maybe New Years?
@Counteris16
@Counteris16 29 күн бұрын
The only thing I think you kinda missed is Cyprus. Before WW1 Cyprus was still technically de jure part of the Ottoman Empire and the British only formally annexed it on November 5, 1914. But seeing that the Central Powers were probably close to finishing the war by that time - either Britain doesn't annex Cyprus on November 5 or it is forced to denounce the annexation and fully de jure and de facto return the island to the Ottomans. I understand your saying that it would've had to be a white peace, but since Cyprus was technically not British before the war - they wouldn't be allowed to "expand" by keeping it. I'd love to hear what you think would've happened with Cyprus in this scenario.
@thelastnumenoren5900
@thelastnumenoren5900 Ай бұрын
Oh my goodness It just came out I'm excited
@lmpious
@lmpious Ай бұрын
what if the Angel of Mons event was real? (fictional world where heaven joins the entente’s side during ww1.)
@15deinosuchus
@15deinosuchus Ай бұрын
can you do "what if everything went perfect for japan", or "what if everything went perfect for finland"
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