What if Germany won WWI (part 2) - Historian Reacts

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Vlogging Through History

Vlogging Through History

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@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Correction on something I said: Kaiser Wilhelm II fled to the Netherlands, not Belgium. He died in Doorn, Netherlands on June 4, 1941 and is buried there.
@ifyouaint03
@ifyouaint03 3 жыл бұрын
Telling him what a good job he was doing. I think he also asked him to get the monarchy back in power, which Hitler ignored.
@whitechapel8959
@whitechapel8959 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifyouaint03 no hitler did.... 2 weeks after the kaisers death.
@SlothyGal
@SlothyGal 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to say that 🙃
@SlothyGal
@SlothyGal 3 жыл бұрын
I want to visit his grave so bad but covid doesn't allow it
@markyzarky
@markyzarky 3 жыл бұрын
@AileDiablo This is... this is ridiculous. And very inaccurate.
@saschaspilling
@saschaspilling 3 жыл бұрын
Omfg. Your pronounciation of the word "deutsch" is right on point! Also your great knowledge about the history of literally everything is also very valuable to me. I learn like the double of info if you react to great history video. Really beneficial!
@automaton2953
@automaton2953 3 жыл бұрын
...I think knowing how to say "Deutsch" is fairly common.
@NoVisionGuy
@NoVisionGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaton2953 I read Deutsch like douche
@TylerAllDayEveryDay6
@TylerAllDayEveryDay6 3 жыл бұрын
@@automaton2953 depends where you live. Here in my part of Ohio people would just say "Dutch" not knowing the difference.
@reintaler6355
@reintaler6355 3 жыл бұрын
@@TylerAllDayEveryDay6 mispronunciation of "eu" and "ei" should earn a crusade
@rsb1rd551
@rsb1rd551 3 жыл бұрын
When I hear “Welcome back everybody.” my life becomes complete
@lolikumadesbear1999
@lolikumadesbear1999 3 жыл бұрын
Your pronounciation of "deutsch" is literally perfect. I'm impressed. Great work as usual, good sir 😊
@rasmusjensen291
@rasmusjensen291 3 жыл бұрын
This is just one of those channels where you instantly click on the video
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rasmus
@pequenoperezoso3743
@pequenoperezoso3743 3 жыл бұрын
@AileDiablo stop being so annoying
@TheMono313
@TheMono313 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say I really love your reaction videos as you add a lot of value to the original content. Your vids help me calm down when I feel anxious. It is also nice to have something interesting to watch before bed so I can think about it as I fall asleep. Keep up the good work, cheers from Belgium !
@Burgundian_Boi
@Burgundian_Boi 3 жыл бұрын
The Kaiser did not go to Belgium when he exiled himself, he went to the Netherlands.
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. See my pinned comment.
@MagereHein
@MagereHein 3 жыл бұрын
7:55 The Battle of Jutland makes it clear that the High Seas Fleet was a match to the Grand Fleet in 1916. In a scenario with a Central victory without the UK as an early belligerent where the two fleets battle it out later and Germany may have had time to add a few capital ships to the equation Germany would still need quite some luck to keep the UK at bay in the long run. The RN had the larger fleet and would have learned from early setbacks like Jutland, but may have lost the appetite without an expeditionary force fighting the Centrals. The number of different possible scenarios is quite large, but I can see the Imperial German Navy hold off the RN in a defensive war. I wonder what a Jutland type battle in the Baltic would have looked like.
@ajburke3486
@ajburke3486 3 жыл бұрын
refreshing all day
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry! Long day. I was working on a project with my grandpa and didn't get home until almost 8pm.
@Taschip
@Taschip 3 жыл бұрын
@@VloggingThroughHistory Take all the time you need, dude
@abarrazarios
@abarrazarios 3 жыл бұрын
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@diegoontour
@diegoontour 3 жыл бұрын
I know few people care, but could you react to some South American history video? We feel somewhat ignored by the USA, Europe and Asia.
@KDH-br6hy
@KDH-br6hy 3 жыл бұрын
I feel u lol
@mechamanmike2450
@mechamanmike2450 3 жыл бұрын
I know almost nothing about South American History so I would definitely welcome this.
@wander7326
@wander7326 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. I commented that he should react to the battle of tuyuti (greatest battle in latin america). People really forget that latin america also have had it's wars.
@samandersen1228
@samandersen1228 3 жыл бұрын
Get this comment noticed
@nathancampos7044
@nathancampos7044 3 жыл бұрын
Falklands oversimplified
@ajburke3486
@ajburke3486 3 жыл бұрын
got my paycheck, time to up my patron tier 😂🙏🏻
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that AJ but make sure you take care of everything you need first!
@JonahNelson7
@JonahNelson7 3 жыл бұрын
Closing in on 50k!! Congrats man, you deserve it
@grahambrown3519
@grahambrown3519 3 жыл бұрын
The question of the Colonies/Empire is the question which would have brought Britain into the War in the first place. A lot of the British politicians had little interest in Europe (Haldane was a Francophile and was pushing for involvement), Germany could have Europe provided that it respected Britain’s right to its Empire. In you first video you mentioned the Germans not coming out again after Jutland - the High Seas fleets problem was it had challenged the Grand Fleet once and failed, it really could not challenge it again when it was only getting stronger in terms of capital ships.
@georgemellick7958
@georgemellick7958 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - can’t wait for COVID to go away and for you to get to Europe- those videos will be great
@lacrishcrish8192
@lacrishcrish8192 3 жыл бұрын
You should react to the alternate history of HoI IV's Kaiserreich's mod. The lore they propose behind the german ww1 victory is a bit outlandish but fun nontheless.
@andrewbogard2411
@andrewbogard2411 3 жыл бұрын
He plays hoi4 on his gaming channel so reacting to the game would probably go along more with that video
@johnuthus
@johnuthus 3 жыл бұрын
*looks at south america* yea
@tims2532
@tims2532 3 жыл бұрын
The "What if" video implied (and you did not comment on it) that imperial Germany was an absolute monarchy. That is not true. Germany had a constitution which limited the Kaisers power, so Germany was a constitutional monarchy. And it did have democratic elements. For example, every law had to be passed by the Reichstag, which was freely elected. Also, I am a bit confused as to how Germany would take all British colonies to create Mittelafrika. Wasn't Germany winning the war conditional on the UK not entering the war? (from part 1) Lastly, I am not sure how great a template the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk is for other peace treaties after a German victory. The circumstances through which the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk came about were very unique. Initially, the Russians initiated peace talks. But Trotzki stalled the negotiations for months. In hopes that Germany would lose in the west before negotiations ended (he called it "neither peace nor war"). Then Ukraine declared independence in January of 1918 and signed a peace treaty with Germany on Feb 9th 1918. Germany ended the fruitless peace talks with Russia and resumed fighting on Feb 17th. And by March Russia was forced to accept peace at any condition. These events (including the reckless gamble by Trotzki) are unlikely to unfold in a similar way in a different timeline. And they are even less likely to unfold similarly for a peace in the west.
@carsonbrinkman2582
@carsonbrinkman2582 3 жыл бұрын
One of the issues with reaction videos on KZbin is its just like :) that was cool. you take it to the next level and interest me with your discussion and points brought up during the video i might have found a new binge :p
@signalanthems3180
@signalanthems3180 3 жыл бұрын
You should react to Kaiser Cat Cinema's Kaiserreich series, its a very interesting alt-history of Germany winning WW1 and presented like a real documentary.
@jb5602
@jb5602 3 жыл бұрын
Quick correction for 11:00 (roughly). Kaiser Wilhelm was in Exile in the Netherlands, not Belgium. The Belgians wouldn't have been too happy to host the German Kaiser after the great war.
@j.hurley5510
@j.hurley5510 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you have watched an alternate history hub video, really hope you do more in the future. Great Vid!
@Exodon2020
@Exodon2020 3 жыл бұрын
15:09 in our timeline the US was actually the first of the Allied Nations to normalize its relations with Germany after the war. Newly knitted economic ties allowed the German economy to recover from 1924 onward. These close ties were then one of the reasons the Great Depression hit Germany almost equally hard as the US itself which directly fueled the rise of Nazism.
@markterrero5362
@markterrero5362 3 жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching your channel's videos for the last couple of weeks since I saw the presidential tier list (not live unfortunately). Always enjoyed history, but I am an electrical engineering major and take so many classes I don't really get the chance to branch much outside of my major, so these videos are always entertaining. I do have a question though, what made the U.K.'s navy so dominant compared to other rising or currently dominant powers, Germany, U.S, Russia, etc.
@michaeldenton8610
@michaeldenton8610 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this completely ignored the roles with the austrians and Italians. If Germany was doing better, they might have propped Austria better and put down the Hungarian uprisings. They might have made Austria cede regions to Italy, bringing them into the central powers. With the Italian navy and Mediterranean control it would have been a British loss.
@yslxo_
@yslxo_ 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, can you do a video tackling how Africa could’ve been had it not experienced colonialism? Or rather a video diving into the root of colonialism and how that’s shaped society: US society in particular
@jackstewart3357
@jackstewart3357 3 жыл бұрын
Africa would have most likely continued to stay at war with each other
@BoatsNhoes824
@BoatsNhoes824 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackstewart3357 agreed
@Jim87_36
@Jim87_36 3 жыл бұрын
Civil tribal wars for eternity when it comes to Africa. As for the colonialism bullshit... not a whole lot would change probably. Maybe a more independent US and no Hawaii
@nikkiadelmanmba2008
@nikkiadelmanmba2008 3 жыл бұрын
OOH! You mention how ~2:25 how The US gets in on the colonizing train with Guam, Hawaii,…. I know literally 0 about any of that. Maybe that’s an idea for a video? Keep up the strong work 💪🏻 Love everything you’re doing!!!
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nikki! I'll keep that in mind.
@TardiniEnnio
@TardiniEnnio 3 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch person, it's a thorn in my eye to see my country just be added to Germany in this alternate timeline xD. I don't think the OP even noticed, cause if that happened Germany would also have had lots of colonies... The Netherlands was neutral though, and kaiser Wilhelm had family ties with the Dutch monarchy. So that annexation would never have happened.
@abyssmoon6940
@abyssmoon6940 3 жыл бұрын
Germany got an pu on netherlands and integrated them
@soturiks
@soturiks 3 жыл бұрын
But what about Italy. Mussolini and fascism would still probably still rise to power there.
@egilkarlson7253
@egilkarlson7253 3 жыл бұрын
There was a treaty signed by the 2 kaisers with the polish, to give independence to Poland if they fought with them, after Brest litovsk. It was the same for Israel with the Ottoman Empire.
@MrMatthias
@MrMatthias 2 жыл бұрын
21:15 There is a town in western Michigan that was originally called Berlin, but was changed to Marne during one of the world wars (probably the first now that I see this video)
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah since the Marne was a battle during WW1. Makes sense.
@Mahoot
@Mahoot 3 жыл бұрын
21:21 probably not the best image to pause at for over a minute lol
@kimyoungquist2640
@kimyoungquist2640 3 жыл бұрын
the best to pause on
@Proxima_Livion
@Proxima_Livion 3 жыл бұрын
"So they changed it to Liberty Street." The most American thing I have heard today.
@danhonks6264
@danhonks6264 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, a historian actually pointing out that the USSR etc were not communist. I never thought I'd see the day.
@jasonjason6525
@jasonjason6525 3 жыл бұрын
Good content always. You should do Epic history tv World War 1.
@amypowell6516
@amypowell6516 3 жыл бұрын
the greatest word war
@michal1713
@michal1713 3 жыл бұрын
5am UK can’t sleep cheers man🙏
@juanchitoa
@juanchitoa 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there, love your videos, and was told about a certain “battle” called the battle of Bamber bridge and was very interested in it, do you think you can cover the topic in the future??
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 3 жыл бұрын
Monarchy at the Empire level would due to logistics require reduction in centralized power. But since Wilhelm lived a long time I agree it wouldn't be during his lifetime. We would need another large destabilizing event to occur.
@kevinfranco8335
@kevinfranco8335 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, when you take time to explain what communism actually is, that's refreshing from an american historian.
@NMF88998
@NMF88998 3 жыл бұрын
You should react to his hoi4 Kaisereich mod lore video it is a lot more in depth than this one and since you play the game it would be interesting to hear your commentary.
@der.Schtefan
@der.Schtefan 3 жыл бұрын
Nice videos, there is just sometimes a volume normalization issue: the video you watch is far louder than you. I constantly have to increase/decrease the volume mid-video.
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
As a fan of Hoi4 Kaiserreich, I always find any alternate history scenario involving Germany and WW1 very interesting
@anniezu1426
@anniezu1426 3 жыл бұрын
Dear, thank you very much for your video. Imaging what would have happened "if" is fun. One of the things I would like to point out is the British foreign polics. I don't see UK giving up so easily its usual politics to get a balance between the different powers in continental Europe. Then, note that, in the early 20th century, there was still the wishes of the different people in the empires to get freedom for their nation. It's hard to imagine that the Austrian, Russian and Ottoman empires would collapse but not the German one. Finally the war between France and Germany would have been really quick in this scenario, meaning that even if the debt to pay for France to Germany would have been huge, France would have paid it really fast like in 1870 to make sure that Germany would not forget that France would get its revenge. It's possible UK and the States would not have fought against Germany "officially" but it's hard to believe that they wouldn't have supported France financially and thanks to their industries.
@mr_fantastic6595
@mr_fantastic6595 3 жыл бұрын
Love these reactions keep up the good work!😄😁👍
@DTDEVO12
@DTDEVO12 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of curious about Italy, because, correct me if I'm wrong, they were on the fence about which side to choose until things looked pretty good for the Entente. So if they did in fact join the Central powers then how would have things looked for them, especially if we are assuming that the Austro-Hungarian Empire did collapse.
@Moebius-M
@Moebius-M 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree Wilhelm II. left the country but he went to the netherlands.
@puljudefender
@puljudefender 3 жыл бұрын
Amersterdam right?
@jobfranschman8436
@jobfranschman8436 3 жыл бұрын
@@puljudefender No not to Amsterdam. He was living in Doorn a small town in middle of the country. He was obliged to stay at that town.
@puljudefender
@puljudefender 3 жыл бұрын
@@jobfranschman8436 oh Thank you
@puljudefender
@puljudefender 3 жыл бұрын
Hey you should react to "what if America joined the central powers"
@juicy4083
@juicy4083 3 жыл бұрын
Then we (the Allies would have lost). The U.K. would’ve stayed out of it, the UK’s commonwealth (Australia/Canada/etc) would all stay out. Basically, France would’ve been destroyed, and the Central Powers would’ve conquered everything.
@gabrielokon-rocha3477
@gabrielokon-rocha3477 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see the hard work love the vid
@playstationweeb1280
@playstationweeb1280 3 жыл бұрын
If need ideas for next alternatehistoryhub Reaction what if nuclearboom never existed
@boulderfrogboulderfrog6512
@boulderfrogboulderfrog6512 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the main thing I disagree with would be what happens to Britain after the war. France would be hit significantly harder than the British would, as they would likely be entirely occupied by the germans, but the british would still retain their navy and complete control of their homeland. I feel like what would be more likely to happen in africa is Britain splits the continent with Germany in such a way that they don't step on each other's toes. For precedent look at the napoleonic wars, where despite the coalition losing several times the worst that France could do to Britain was cut off their trade with the mainland. imo the brits would definitely try to be friendly with the germans once they saw the writing on the wall, as so long as they can maintain their global empire neither britain nor germany will really be able to pose a massive threat to one another.
@robbydinowitz8144
@robbydinowitz8144 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch “what if the USA joined the axis powers” its goes super deep and is extremely interesting
@isaacbobjork7053
@isaacbobjork7053 2 жыл бұрын
14:16 interesting, that is Stockholm downtown in the 60's
@wargamesmaster
@wargamesmaster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anything in these "what if" videos that disprove the existence of Mussolini in that alternate universe, so I think while there will probably not be a war as destructive as the original WWII, there will be one because of Mussolini and his ambition to create a new Roman Empire.
@supergameruchiha6824
@supergameruchiha6824 3 жыл бұрын
He also did one for WW2
@23GreyFox
@23GreyFox 3 жыл бұрын
There was no arms race between Germany and the British. UK just didn't like, that Germany tried to defend them self.
@jackhammer2506
@jackhammer2506 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do this for ww2
@11mousa
@11mousa 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding Austria-Hungary: I don't see their alternate future as dark. Franz Ferdinand and Karl (so the shot Crown Prince and his "replacement") both had already pretty well worked out plans regarding a Danubian Federation. Now whether that would work or not is unforseeable, but in a timeline where Austria had won a World War and has the support of the full German might, it is likely that it could have worked.
@brockgeorge777
@brockgeorge777 2 жыл бұрын
There was also an unappreciated closeness of France and the USA due to the side they were on in the Revolution. Indeed I could argue that it took the Second WW (and the relatively hostile rise of DeGaulle) to make the USA and Britain become a lot closer than the USA and France.
@theoutlander1411
@theoutlander1411 2 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting area to explore would be how it might affect the future Axis nations. It's quite possible you could still see a Fascist Italy rise from the ashes, since a lot of Mussolini's stated reasons for forming his movement was from not getting enough from the military victory, let alone not getting anything at all (or even Italy losing) provided Italy participated in the war (given the timeline of victory). What relation this would have with France or Spain remains to be seen however, and it's possible with the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War that relations between Monarchist Germany and Fascist Italy could be mended or if (depending on the route France and Britain take) could turn the conflict into a new European War. Additionally, Japan also felt scorned by Versailles and the shift of Britain away from them and into greater relations with America. Since the United States never got involved, Japan might maintain common cause with Britain, and depending on the severity of the new treaties, join a Anti-German coalition in the future. They also might walk back some of their more modernist approach to government in exchange for a more Imperial one than we got in our timelines where the Emperor as complete direct control as a result of Germany demonstrating it is still the most superior form of governance.
@lordofswans
@lordofswans 3 жыл бұрын
22:42 also St. Petersburg changed name to Petrograd becouse of that.
@Derren82
@Derren82 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a War General tier list!!!
@wattsy4468
@wattsy4468 3 жыл бұрын
Largest ancestral European heritage in the USA is German.
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
That isn't entirely accurate...or it's at least misleading. The largest claimed ancestral heritage is German. More people just identify themselves by their German roots than other nationalities. If you look at the immigration numbers, German is not the largest ancestral heritage.
@starliaghtsz8400
@starliaghtsz8400 Жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but the German high seas fleet was the second strongest navy in the world, with France being a close third
@kelvinth117
@kelvinth117 2 жыл бұрын
What if The Netherlands with the backing of germany and the central powers also annuled the 1839 treaty of london, belgium and luxembourg became one nation the kingdom of the Netherlands again and also got south africa back with maybe a few carribean island more.
@danushairan
@danushairan 3 жыл бұрын
The impact of that great war would be far more than what we discussed. So much suffering in the middle east would not have happened...
@zigafujan7027
@zigafujan7027 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Please talk about communism and socialism and how they were actually represented throughout history.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit iffy about Germany getting both these *huge reparations* and *all* of the colonies. In this scenario Britain hasn't really be beaten, they just bow out of the war because a land war would be a disaster for them. I don't see Britain standing by idly while Germany forces such a one-sided peace treaty on France, that gives the German Empire quasi complete control over Africa. Especially since this also includes Britain's colonies. Other than that it's the quality content I came to expect from AlternateHistoryHub.
@felipeviana2351
@felipeviana2351 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about what would happen in Brazil. The president, when the war started, was Venceslau Brás, and he inherited a civil war from the last government, which would only end in 1916. Between that and Brazil's very limited participation in WWI, in 1917, he still had to contain an uprising in his military. Brazil began to industrialize because importing from Europe in times of war was extremely difficult, but the heaviest industrialization would come in the government of military dictator Getúlio Vargas, who despite fighting at the allies side, was a great admirer of fascism (and a fascist himself). I don't know if he would have ever risen to power if the Central Powers had won the war.
@Moebius-M
@Moebius-M 3 жыл бұрын
If fascism existed depends pretty much on the treaties with italy. Italy "won" the war and still went fascist so losing it wouldn't have helped...
@TheMasonK
@TheMasonK 3 жыл бұрын
True but one of the big reasons for the rise of extremism was economy’s busting after war debts being unpaid. Part of the reason Mussolini came to power was because of the Italian economy being in shambles. Lets say Germany wins the war, you gotta think they don’t want as much reparations from France as France wanted from Germany in our timeline just because the Germans actually won the Franco-Prussian war. So with less amounts of war debt being unpaid does it send the world economy into a great depression like it does in our time? I’m aware that this wasn’t the only cause of the Great Depression. There will always be recessions in capitalism. It’s inevitable but would this recession have been enough to breed the conditions in which fascism takes hold in Europe? That’s where in my opinion it gets real tricky to predict what would happen.
@Wulfy96
@Wulfy96 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a react series to the lore of Kaiserreich a hearts of iron 4 mod
@ifyouaint03
@ifyouaint03 3 жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons it took the US so long to enter the war, other then it being a European war. Was the massive German population in the states. Most people see the US as English and Irish decent, but I believe the German population was like 30-40% qt the time of WW1.
@bencalabro1594
@bencalabro1594 3 жыл бұрын
Wilhelm was more “hands off” more like “hand off” ha amirite?
@aronszentjobi5042
@aronszentjobi5042 3 жыл бұрын
Just something to correct here and also add something. Kaiser Wilhelm II. fled to the Netherlands and not Belgium, and yes the rest was correct. He even congratulated Hitler on his conquest and was amazed that he could conquer France so quickly - something that he couldn't manage to do for 4 years in the Great War. Shortly after that though he died.
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah see my pinned comment
@aronszentjobi5042
@aronszentjobi5042 3 жыл бұрын
@@VloggingThroughHistory sorry for that, it didn't show up in time. Keep it up and stay safe!
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@aronszentjobi5042 it's all good. I always welcome people correcting my mistakes so I'm not putting out false information.
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 Жыл бұрын
So basically we wouldn’t have a French hitler, we’d have a French Lenin
@holyelliw
@holyelliw 3 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget that the Spanish Flu would have ravaged Europe right after, just like Smallpox in France back in '71
@jenshendrickx2230
@jenshendrickx2230 3 жыл бұрын
I think Wilheim was exiled to the netherlands, im not sure tho but im belgian and i heard story’s that he was in the netherlands
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. See my pinned comment.
@jenshendrickx2230
@jenshendrickx2230 3 жыл бұрын
@@VloggingThroughHistory oh sorry didn’t see that. Anyway i want ta ask you if you’d ever react to a vid about king leopold II en the congo ‘Free’ state it’s an topic that is forgotten about by a lot of people (including belgians themselfs) while people still go to statue’s of him and don’t even know what he did. Approximately 5-15 milion people died in congo
@AntonTysklind
@AntonTysklind 3 жыл бұрын
The way i see it, the tricky thing with “would Germany be able to sustain and expand colonies in Africa?” is that the Germans winning the war is not the same Germans who losing the war. For example, the fighting down in Africa that Germany actually did do during this period of time went quite poorly and you could make the argument that is because they underestimated the resistance and the type of warfare. So the germans losing the war was in my mind not capable of sustaining colonies in Africa. The Germans winning the war on the other hand is obviously more tactically capable and therefore not as prone to underestimating the African continent. So the argument for them sustaining colonies is easier to make. But unlike the situation in Europe, where you can actually see specific things going down or not going down, the matter of colonies is almost more of a philosophical question
@steveclarke6257
@steveclarke6257 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the conclusions made, it depends upon the speed of the central powers victory. If this happens before 1917 he is correct there is no US involvement, however if there is still unrestricted submarine warfare the US still enters in 1917. This effects the war outcome results for Germany, I'm not sure they could do anything to force terms on the British Empire if the US has entered the war, the US would probably see the British as a naval counter balance to Germany, and if you can't get out of the North sea I can't see how you can have much of a colonial empire. So would end up with something like a rerun of the Napoleonic period, Germany running the contenent (replacing Imperial France) and the US and British empire controlling the oceans.
@sartanawillpay7977
@sartanawillpay7977 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the Germans would have had a difficult time forcing any terms on the British Empire that threatened its overseas possessions whether the US entered the war or not. If Britain wanted it could have continued a naval blockade and German High Seas fleet may not be able to challenge it for years (if ever). The British were protected by channel and their control of the sea and would not have to accept peace on humiliating terms.
@OrlandMapper
@OrlandMapper 3 жыл бұрын
4:45 I dont know about other nations, but Czecho-Slovakia elected communist government (I think it was one of the biggest communist victories in elections after WW2). Czechoslovaks voted for KSČ (Communist party of Czechoslovakia), because the democrats/liberals were seen as "traitors" and pro-western politicians (they accepted Munich Agreement and only Soviet Union supported Czecho-Slovakia). Also in WW2 most of Czecho-Slovakia was liberated by Soviets. Czecho-Slovakia also nearly became independent from Soviet sphere in 1948, because "democratic" politicians resigned and they expected that our president would refuse their resignation - that would mean new elections and KSČ would have lost, but president accepted their resignation and KSČ took all power in Czecho-Slovakia.
@mrmarvel9309
@mrmarvel9309 3 жыл бұрын
Being Australian, I'm curious where we'd be if Germany won / England never got involved. I know in that alternate history I wouldn't have been born, my great grandfather met his British wife during the war. Also Australia got a lot of refugees after both wars which shaped our culture.
@fabianmichaelgockner5988
@fabianmichaelgockner5988 3 жыл бұрын
Australia most likely would be unharmed in regards of losing power and control of land. So the chances that it might have a independent Government, that would ignore Britains rules and orders, was more likely. If you Hearts of Iron 4 "Kaiserreich" than Australia would have a influx of refugees, not only as humans but also as battleships any kind of, because due the defeat the british navy was in Kaiserreich in full dissaray and fled to former Commonwealth Colonies, giving them slightly more powerful navy strength to keep their territories under control. Also the possibility that you would have born, doesn't mean at all that it needed to happen right now like with your parents. Maybe your father might found your mother much later anyway in any other way of Convenience. (Sorry for bad English, I am German.)
@AlexJones-ue1ll
@AlexJones-ue1ll 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest visible difference would be seen in the Middle East. With a predictable collapse of the Ottoman Empire there would be struggle, wars and horrible things, but a likely outcome would be more natural borders in the end of the resulting states, along ethnic lines, not artificial lines drawn on a map. As briefly mentioned, Kurds for example getting their own nation. The most important difference though would be: No foreign troops in occupation. Much of today terrorism stems from the foreign occupation of major parts in the Middle East by western troops. Mostly UK (who drew the borders) and USA (later on). The west would have to face the Middle East on a more equal footing instead of being colonial masters (in essence). It could even be more friendly to the German Empire if (and thats speculative) they would be wise enough to offer assistance in new nations forming. Ofc they might as well do the UK thing and try to grab as much as possible for that sweet oil and the end result the same, with Germany being the big Satan for muslim countries instead of the USA; but with more natural breakup of the Ottomans, chances are bigger for a more peaceful relationship between the west and the Middle East.
@jadenpicinic23
@jadenpicinic23 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with your assessment. While indeed both the German and Royal Navy battlefleets where mostly designed around operations in the North Sea and the North Atlantic, the Royal Navy was able to refuel and restock virtually all over the world: Gibraltar, Jamaica, Malta, Suez, Africa colonies, India, Hong Kong, Singapore, Falklands station, Canada, Japan (as an ally) and many many more I am forgetting. Furthermore their Battlecruiser and Cruiser force was very much tailored for colonial station keeping and trade-protection / raiding. The German navy suffered heavily almost from the start of the war. Japan took control of their possessions in South East Asia, HMAS Australia was more than powerful enough to threaten their entire Asia squadron and without refueling opportunities, the German cruiser forces had no other way to disperse and life of raiding or to be taken out by the Battlecruiser units hunting them (Battle of the Falklands). The german battlefleet strategy acknowledged this disparity, and was mostly designed as a fleet in being, and primarily sortieing out in attempt to catch and destroy parts of the British fleets in ambushes. Lack of radio discipline and because the RN had broken their code, made those attempts a futile mission, regardless to how badly Beatty could foul good plans. Germany winning WW1 would help german's colonial ambitions, but the UK was far from powerless, especially so long it didn't got herself tempted on fighting Germany on the European mainland. And with the new situation, the UK has all the incentive to try to slow down German ambition. Even a separate naval war against Germany isn't off the table. In all other cases, Germany has hardly a chance without some major naval or colonial power switching sides. Italy betraying the Central Powers takes out the most likely candidate.
@HelloThere-ls7yf
@HelloThere-ls7yf 3 жыл бұрын
Wilhelms Exile Was in the netherlands
@mikalsfriend7626
@mikalsfriend7626 3 жыл бұрын
i think its important to remember that the war between japan china and usa would likely not happen, but the usa would continue industrializing faster than germany and its allies. USAs fleet would be dominant over time.
@julo0006
@julo0006 3 жыл бұрын
a better world
@brycemacdonald7841
@brycemacdonald7841 3 жыл бұрын
Soo close to 50k !!
@michaelbuchinger6191
@michaelbuchinger6191 3 жыл бұрын
I think Austria-Hungary would not have dissolved. That happened because the army was dissolving and the war situation was bad. Politicians broke Austria-Hungary appart, not the people. There were plans to create a federal state under Karl l.
@danieldeme1940
@danieldeme1940 3 жыл бұрын
The fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire would look very differently in this timeline, no yugoslavia, no chezchoslovakia etc
@whitechapel8959
@whitechapel8959 3 жыл бұрын
You should see what would have happened if Amwrica joined the central powers.
@talis84
@talis84 3 жыл бұрын
The TL;DW version, of What if Germany won WW1 is the world is a better place.
@Zutakameku1
@Zutakameku1 3 жыл бұрын
Do Oversimplifieds the French Revolution
@kriysixvector4552
@kriysixvector4552 3 жыл бұрын
Namibia would be Union of South Africa clay.
@crusader2112
@crusader2112 3 жыл бұрын
Can you take a look at Alternate History Hub's 4-Part Series on Harry S Turtle dove's Southern Victory Series? It's a really interesting & well 4-part series. Anyways. Keep up the great work and Take Care. 👋🏻 Peace and Goodnight. ✌🏻
@guidoeickmeyer2723
@guidoeickmeyer2723 3 жыл бұрын
i would assume that a coalition between UK and Germany would be more probably than colonial conflict. the aristoratic ties were close enough and i think it would come down to more a rivalry. especially considering a new common enemy: socialist france.
@benjaminmee3751
@benjaminmee3751 3 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing you say that “communism is stateless” and so the Russians werent really communist. They absolutely were as Marx stated that communism can only be achieved through a dictatorship of the proles who will collectivise production and then release governance to the individual (he didn’t say what this meant or would look like or how to get there). That’s what the Soviet Union was doing. They were a dictatorship of the proles going through the collectivisation of production. They were real communists and the Soviet Union was communist.
@zyanego3170
@zyanego3170 2 жыл бұрын
It was a Dictatorship of the party, not the Proletariat.
@jamescarton1788
@jamescarton1788 3 жыл бұрын
For me personally I don't see this MiddleAfrica being created, with the British still having the most powerful of the fleet in the world the Germans wouldn't have the ability to negotiate for such massive areas of Africa with no actual ability to take them by force. I'm sure they would be able to take some French territory but not the big MiddleAfrica as described here. I've always found it weird that Britain become closer with France and Russia when it seems like Germany is a more natural ally, both are a Germanic people and both ruled by the same family. Then again the best ally for Britain was the USA as they speak the same language both 'democracies' and both have different spheres of influence, US has the Americas and Britain has the rest of the world.
@sartanawillpay7977
@sartanawillpay7977 3 жыл бұрын
During the Napoleonic wars Britain fought on regardless of what happened on the continent. They would not necessarily have done this had Germany defeated France, but they certainly would not permit Germany to threaten their Empire overseas nor could the Germans force this given the power of the Royal Navy. Germany wold probably have accepted British recognition of their conquests in Europe and be glad to call it a day.
@jamescarton1788
@jamescarton1788 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Britain would not let them threaten the empire, but could accept German domination of Europe. However I think they would at any point support wars or uprisings to try rebalance Europe with multiple equal powers again.
@margretsdad
@margretsdad 5 ай бұрын
The Kaiser was exiled to the Netherlands were he died in 1940.😊
@dennis2376
@dennis2376 3 жыл бұрын
The question I have is what happens to Spain if it follows our time in Cody's timeline. If Spain goes fascist does France create an alliance with Spain and what would that do?
@odysseus1660
@odysseus1660 3 жыл бұрын
Probably nothing much, spain at this time isn't a particularly strong nation especially if they follow the civil war route
@kiramikomi2434
@kiramikomi2434 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the Red Flood mod for Hearts of Iron 4
@baleygr76
@baleygr76 3 жыл бұрын
Pls do the Emu war reaction.
@donnygreen2978
@donnygreen2978 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is off topic of the video above but I heard somewhere that after the civil war a just freed black woman knelt down in a church in front of former slave owners and as they were talking an old white haired man who turned out to be General Lee walked in next to the woman, knelt down and prayed beside her and I was wondering if that was true or just a rumor
@VloggingThroughHistory
@VloggingThroughHistory 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know the details but yes something like that happened between Lee and a recently freed slave in church.
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