What if Jet Fighters Never Existed?

Today, we explore an alternate history timeline: What if Jet Fighters Never Existed? Or more accurately, what if turboprops were chosen instead of afterburning turbojets? At the time, they were more efficient and accelerated quicker, so it could have been a feasible decision.
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[@prius_power]

This is such a cool idea, you should totally make this a series

[@Somebeanwhoexists]

Super pretty please a series would be crazy cool

[@JulianPanebianco-zp1li]

Yes, yes you should

[@JulianPanebianco-zp1li]

Yes, yes he should*

[@marrqi7wini54]

Series? Guys this could be an entire aviation genre. Like steampunk or dieselpunk.

[@theleftfootedsultan]

⁠@@marrqi7wini54Proppunk! The more descriptive Turboproppunk or Propfanpunk don’t roll off the tongue well at all.

[@seapickles5762]

I want to see a MiG-21 recreated with this type of turboprop arrangement. I think it would look hilariously cursed

[@thelethalpredator672]

What about a f14 with turbo prop. I tried that on simpleplanes and it didn't work well lol. Mostly cause I wad trying to make a it ww1/early ww2 themed with wing sweep so yeah..

[@object_333]

Do 335 noises

[@Aviator224]

I did a turboprop f-14 in KSP once and it worked surprisingly well

[@Cythil]

Appearance wise, it reminds me of the SNCASO SO.8000 Narval. A French piston plane. But it had the same general layout, with even the counter rotating props. I really like the look of that aeroplane. And I quite like the look of this one too.

[@orcabeast8006]

That’s what I was thinking too! The resemblance is uncanny! Love the design ofc

[@pux0rb]

This has a pretty cool design philosophy behind it. I could see it being made in an alternate version of real life where jet engines just didn't work right. It also has a really striking silhouette.

[@Thiefwriter]

You're my absolute favorite niche-interest youtuber at the moment - The quality of your voiceover combined with the meditative build of the craft is an excellent combo. Keep doing your thing ❤

[@1lop1234]

Love the alt history series idea! Maybe companies with varying design doctrines like focusing on heavier planes, faster planes or manuverable planes for dogfighting?

[@pasttenseofdraw5791]

its goofy but its the perfect kind of goofy that allows for some brilliant ideas and designs that can be truly memorable - a series would be great

[@bardo13]

Definitely want this as a series. I know flyout doesn't have this capability yet, but what if helicopters were developed before fixed wing aircraft?

[@swedishmolasses2920]

Flyout added helicopters last update! It'd be possible

[@Hunter-ww9rd]

Great idea for a series! You could do this as well for classes. Modern heavy fighters, hydroplanes and flying fortress type bombers.

[@marrqi7wini54]

We can not only make this a series but an entire aviation genre.

[@itsdokko2990]

i'm a huge fan of creating alternate worlds. if you decide to proceed with that idea, you've got my whole attention there. hell, i might join later to the party

[@chickenthelittle]

You should really make this a series it would be so fun

[@1Kaisermerlin]

I absolutely feel the same about turbo props being interesting and would make a fun fictional niche. Really wanna see it in gaming.

[@Cyberboi]

I love it! It's like a modernized SO.8000, would be nice to see more

[@Jude_M]

Have you ever thought about making a video about what you think air travel will be like in the future. I would like to see your take on a futuristic airliner.

[@frumpkin9282]

Would love to see all the potential layouts for 'modern' prop fighters.

[@ItsACamellia]

definitely interested in seeing this as a series, always preferred the late WW2 and early cold war era aircraft. EDIT: regarding the ejection seat, I don't think it would be unlikely that even at its size the aircraft could have an ejection seat, the He-162 had an early ejection seat and that was very small, and the Do-335 had even great issues with tail and prop placement (solved by the same method as you, Explosives in both the rear prop hub and vertical stabilizer that blew them clear)

[@monika-Chr]

I absolutely love alternate history / lore serieses with this kind of stuff! As a dungeon and dragons DM, this kind of story telling is the backbone of so many of my campaigns. Seeing something like this, where certain countries have their own design principles and schools of thought, naming conventions, and aircraft development where jet engines never really caught on would be simply incredible. Very much so hoping that idea comes to fruition!

[@monika-Chr]

Like just thinking about the repercussions of that, I imagine IR based sensors and weapons would be less useful given the colder visible operating temperatures and Radar / TV based sensor suites would be much more prevalent.

[@loading...5879]

That introduction scene of the plane looks like a War Thunder trailer. Beautiful work as always! Keep it up, I love your content!

[@DallasWright2010]

You sir, are everything I love. Alternate History, space, storytelling and hypothetical technology. I WANT IT ALL ! ! ! Keep making content good sir. Also Messier 82 is a pretty galaxy I agree :-)

[@buck4826]

Love the series idea. Something like a jet/rocket powered P38 would be cool.

[@simonghesquiere6728]

hyped by this concept and the possibility of a serie

[@nathanielhinz4946]

Such a cool dieselpunk concept! Definitely please do more about it.

[@safeish57]

awesome video! cant wait to see how aircraft will develop without jet engines

[@solarflare623]

Yes! I would love to see this turn into a series!

[@REAL-BIG-HAM]

I think that Rotodyne style aircraft would be a very interesting concept for this alternate history series

[@greatgianttomato3753]

Yeah this is really cool please make this a series, seeing multiple countries, all with unique designs would be amazing

[@greatgianttomato3753]

great vid btw

[@jkerman5113]

Talking about fictional company lore sounds awesome. I like reading wikipedia etc about all the company and political reasons behind, say, the MiG-15 and its engine. It would be so fun to have a fictional aerospace company that doesn't just develop aircraft, but has a whole universe of politics and shenanigans to go along with it.

[@lemanbest7356]

I think this is a sick concept I love it, and can not wait to see what your amazing mind can come up with. Keep up the good work :D

[@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778]

Would love to see reimagined jet fighters, with their jets replaced with turbo props, but the same basic frame and fuselage

[@skyekid1]

This is my new favorite video, the idea and concept is amazing, I guess great minds think by of arguments(of alternated histories)! This was an amazing plane by far as it looks like a P-50* (if I didn't forget the name and mistake a plane*) The video was entertaining! Nice work!

[@demariultraastra864]

I gotta say that’s a pretty sweet looking design, really works strangely well with the loads of weapons on it

[@Milchreismitschoko2]

Great Channel! I found you a couple of days ago and watched all your videos. Your builds and testings are very nice and entertaining. Keep it up!

[@petersmythe6462]

I think this creates an alternate reality where rocket fighters also likely exist. We might even see a Bell XF-1 or something. Turboprops have serious difficulty getting close to the speed of sound and actually exceeding it becomes wildly inefficient. Yet at moderate speeds they can loiter much longer than rocket-powered aircraft. There might even be hypersonic glide interceptors.

[@mr.pinstripe7171]

This was a pretty cool idea and honestly I would like to see you develop the world further

[@strigoi_guhlqueen8355]

Would love to see a stealth bomber in this style

[@bookshpan]

I love this idea, you should make a series of it imo

[@Bananas6439]

This guy explains so good and yet only has 11k subs he deserves more

[@bobolam7342]

I love alternate history. I think it would be pretty cool to see how different technologies such as stealth (ducted fan shroud around props?!??), supersonics and ARAAMs work out with different these design philosophies.

[@jorjorwell1984]

Gotta say this is probably my favorite looking plane you’ve made

[@RobertMock-pu9yx]

It kind of resembles a De Havilland Vampire/Venom, but with a turboprop engine. I like it.

[@terencyowens9491]

This is interesting. Even just modding 1940"s -1950's era warbirds, you have a lot of material to play with.

[@rectum_ravager]

really cool to see your channel growing.

[@levidotson6610]

I’d love to see an interpretation of a high speed biplane in this style

[@enderjed2523]

Why not the complete inverse, a jet powered biplane? (Monoplanes never being invented)

[@levidotson6610]

@@enderjed2523 I love it

[@enderjed2523]

@@levidotson6610 If the Fairey Swordfish could do ridiculous things with a 690hp piston engine, imagine what it could pull off with a jet strapped to it.

[@tslaughter3804]

@@enderjed2523it would really need some pretty strong wings and then again it would limit the speed greatly but I would love to see something like that

[@Konym]

Absolutely love the upload schedule. Flyout is great!

[@Admre]

I didn’t expect your account to post so many videos when I first subscribed, but I’m enjoying them all👍

[@fenrisforgeaustralia]

I love the idea of an alt series. This aircraft reminds me a little bit of the A1 Skyraider. Keep up the great content mate, can't wait for more.

[@khoaa2451]

Please make this a series, love this stuff :)

[@TheGrace020]

Anything you do is epic and i will watch! Love it 😼

[@RadiantCataclysm]

This would be an incredibly entertaining and creative series. Definitely continue with this.

[@jpase]

I'd love to see this as a longer series!

[@APerson-fj6yx]

Maybe make a super YB-35? Way bigger and faster, with stealth capabilities

[@SuperHahaha1313]

100% I’d binge this series. Please do it!!!

[@Armymac]

I love this. Can't wait to see the next one!

[@flapperofwar7445]

That sounds like an awesome idea for a series!

[@Alte.Kameraden]

There were a few turbo props which could go super fast. Though I remember one was so loud that it would cause ground crews to vomit because the tips of the propellers would break the sound barrier so it was like a constant none stop sonic boom.

[@pleaseenteranamelol711]

Yes, the thundershriek. The torque of the turbine engines was so strong that it was pitching to the left constantly, as the plane essentially attempted to rotate around the driveshaft. Loudest plane in history. I wonder if they could have used the deafening loudness as a weapon? If it had such awful effects on people to begin with, surely it could have been made to be even louder and more powerful. Imagine a collection of enemy soldiers being suddenly buzzed by 3 or 4 of these things at once.

[@judet2992]

This thing is sick! Love it!

[@borisbishoff2505]

I love the alt history stuff! Can't wait to see what you come up with next

[@stormy_in_vr640]

I'd love this as a series, it was a great watch!

[@rebelchileantuna6180]

holy shit this was amazingly good to watch, i really hope to see more of this

[@megamango3216]

I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!

[@levidotson6610]

I love Thai concept, and would absolutely love to see this turn into a series

[@cegicreator2476]

I love in depth alternative history and I can't wait to see more of this series

[@paxxweidert5408]

Please do more videos like this! Side note, the plane looks a lot like one I drew a while back, its cool to see something like it in 3D!

[@AndrewKellner-sv3tb]

He always makes great vids

[@Joshua_Moore1917]

This is an awesome idea, and I'm all the way down for this being a series.

[@vaughnrow208]

This would make an amazing series

[@colinslye4814]

just found your channel today if you dont make this a series ill never be back. In all seriousness though amazing videos keep up the good work (and please make this a series)

[@jeongwaaiho818]

Nice video idea! It'll be amazing to explore the "possible" tech trees in our world lol

[@nolanpeters5462]

This is basically why I want this game. please continue this as a series

[@quill901]

i know its a semi old vid rn, but id love to see this as a series, seems like a really cool idea!!

[@StrikeEagIe]

These explanations are phenomenal

[@josiahrodriguez8020]

This might be my massive SAAB bias but this looks a lot like the SAAB 21 but with a Prop-Fan. Absolutely love it, reminds me of some of the CAPSTONE projects i see from the Aero track seniors at my school.

[@brucetonkin2882]

Please never stop with the rambling voice overs Messier. They make the videos informative and are just as enjoyable as the builds (for me at least)

[@yep5624]

Really like the idea of following a series on your channel

[@EhmedCousCous]

Really enjoyed this! Now you gotta make a supersonic one!

[@yerp1554]

I love this channel and ive always wanted to see a more modern prop fighter concept ❤👍

[@Louis_Roper]

I love these videos!!!

[@cornholioshintern273]

Pls make this a series it is super interesteting

[@_The_LunchBox_]

Ideas like this are why I want this game. I just wanna make a bunch of cool (float)planes.

[@RT-PD]

I enjoyed the rambling you do

[@gabeteuton]

loved the video idea!

[@clockworkgiant9070]

I am a sucker for alt history, especially alt history aviation. Crimson skies was my first introduction to video games after all.

[@kaiserepsilon4011]

This is almost exactly like a scenario I have for a world I'm building. I hope to see more of it.

[@Formerly-The-Alex-And-Co.-Show]

would love a series of this

[@grooverchan1600]

Love this concept

[@bluepenix]

guess whos back back again jimmys back tell a friend lol great vid as always 👍👍

[@alfredocas1415]

i absolutly love that you almost build the mwari from paramount group, you have the same mind as their engineers, nice

[@megan00b8]

Oh don't be silly, we absolutely adore your rants about stuff while the timelapse is playing. On that note, dunno what editing software you're using, but you could record the audio before you make the timelapse so that you can talk about whatever you want to. PS: please consider making a BSG Raider, I want to see what that flying horseshoe can do.

[@rfak7696]

This is really cool. I always wante to see how late WW2 superprops with more modern sensors and armament. Please, turn this into a series

[@ottosfamily4604]

Yes!! Yes!!!! Love your videos

[@terrick9099]

This is a very good idea, you should definitely make this into a seiries

[@GreegAVsAMV]

Love your videos I'm just interested. Have you tried forward-swept wing design? If yes, how does it behave?

[@maxbennett5412]

5:20 Maybe to allow the turboprop to be in front they would put the radar and other equipment inside sing mounted pods on the end or bottom of the wing? Oh yea and if you are thinking of cold war turboprops the Thunderscreech is a good example of why propeller planes trying to go beyond the speed of sound are a bad idea.

[@nullofthenull]

I love the idea of alt history/alternate power aircraft also can you make helicopters in flyout?

[@nilsdoesvr]

Nice ideas, would you later create a Light fighter with the Fuselage of a F-104 with the extended wings of a F-5, the engine of a f-15, the lerx of a mig-29 and the tail and stabilizers of a f-4? Thanks for appreciating my arts BTW.

[@kawaiikitty1137]

Pls do more alternate history its sooooo good i have been trying to find alternate military stuff for a long time now and there is either nothing or shit i will literally cry happy tears if u do more alt history pls😭😭😭

[@rjds1800]

I really want to get my hands on Fly Out to try out ideas and create designs that never made it off the drawing board or what-might-have-been. I'm looking forward to seeing multiplayer matches where you could have air racers or dog fighters that has one rule you must use a fictional design or you designed it yourself. Now that would be interesting!

[@tmg8486]

It reminds me a whole lot of like french SO.8000 Narwhal which I love as well. As always, the plane's turned out pretty great

[@BruceHenals]

Cant wait for the messier cinematic universe

[@obamabinladenblair1509]

This is a really cool series. Do you think, when the game comes out, we could download these planes?