What If Mario Zeppeli Didn't Die? JJBA What If?

[@realgeorgejoestarii331]

Alternate universe idea: George II has hamon and works with Mario Zeppeli and they do some cool shi ^^

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Would've been sick NGL.

[@realgeorgejoestarii331]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 u should do a what if video on that “what if Mario Zeppeli and George Joestar II had met or smth like that”

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@realgeorgejoestarii331 Yeah, I'll definitely do a George and Mario video eventually, since both of them have a huge fan base on my channel. Also if interested, I can tell you about how I think the Mario what if timeline would go if your interested in it?

[@realgeorgejoestarii331]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 YESSS :33

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@realgeorgejoestarii331 Alright, so the timeline IMO. Part 1.5: So in this timeline, Mario is able to escape the Piller Men's attack, while also getting Caesar out of the way. So Mario and Caesar would talk to each other, and they would actually go back to see Caesar's siblings, which the brothers and youngest sister would both hate Mario and Caesar for abandoning them but the older sister would've forgiven them and would want to retry with the family. Part 2: So the part starts off the same, with everything mostly going the same until Joseph and Speedwagon go to Naples to get the Zeppeli family's help against the Piller Men. Mario would tell Speedwagon to leave as he doesn't want him to get hurt, so Speedwagon would be out of the story sooner than he canonically was, and Joseph would have to live in the Zeppeli household, which we would get Joseph vs Caesar but instead Caesar would actually defeat Joseph, with Joseph only getting in one kick on him. After that, they would go to the place where they discovered the Piller Men, and Mark would still die to them, with everything mostly going the same, but AC⚡DC might die here earlier so Loggins might actually survive? (IMO, he lives.) But the next change is the Wamuu arc as Caesar wouldn't go inside of the hotel since Mario is still alive plus he's a lot more level headed, but his brothers would go in to kill Wamuu as a way to mock and disrespect there father and older brother's hard work and to get back at them for abandoning them. They would fight Wamuu, but one of the brothers would die the same way Caesar was originally killed, and the other one is injured for the rest of the part. But in the second Wamuu fight Caesar helps Joseph and is the one who kills Wamuu instead, and in the Kars fight Mario world help Joseph but gets injured and almost dies, with the sisters helping out and saving there father. But the rest of part 2 goes the same, so Joseph "dies" and crashes his funeral still. Part 2.5: So Caesar and his remaining brother join WWII, and since Italy and Germany were allies, Stroheim would survive the war, and would have a family with a son named Dominic in 1966, and a daughter named Nico in 1968. Caesar would have a son in 1947 but he dies to Dio in 1986 but he dies stabbing himself with the stand arrow so his family has stands, and Caesar would have a grandson named Julius in 1969, and a granddaughter named Rosanna or Rose for short. And Mario, Lisa Lisa, Loggins, and Messina would also be in Stardust Crusaders in this timeline since they train with there hamon, and Joseph and Caesar would also train with there hamon. Part 3: So Mario, Caesar, Julius, and Rose would be together, Stroheim, Dominic, and Nico would also be together, and Messina, Loggins, and Lisa Lisa are with Joseph and Avdol. The scene with Jotaro goes mostly the same but Julius would fight Jotaro in Avdol's place, and the group would still meet Kakyoin, Polnareff, and Iggy, with Hol Horse joining the Stardust Crusaders because of Lisa Lisa being there. As for the deaths, Loggins would die in the place of Avdol, Vanilla Ice would only kill once Crusader so Iggy gets to survive, Lisa Lisa would take the place of dying and revealing The World's power in the spot of Kakyoin, and Stroheim would try to fight Dio off but dies in the battle. Jotaro, Joseph, Mario, Caesar, Julius, Rose, Dominic, Nico, Messina, Kakyoin, Polnareff, Avdol, Hol Horse, and Iggy would survive, RIP Loggins, Lisa, and Stroheim though. Part 4: Since Kakyoin is still alive he would join Jotaro to Morioh so Kakyoin would be there to meet Josuke and Koichi, with Avdol and Messina replacing the random Speedwagon Foundation Agent during the Red Hot Chili Pepper arc, with Nico and Hol Horse going with Joseph who's still training with his hamon, and Rose and Caesar's sister's would be there after Akira is defeated but Kakyoin would have Rose leave after Kira kills Shingechi (who still dies BTW.) but IMO, Keichō, Shingechi, and Aya are still gonna die, but Messina would die in the final battle to Kira as well in the place of Okuyasu's fake out death, and Josuke would actually kill Kira in this timeline. Part 5: Avdol, Josuke, Okuyasu, Rohan, and Koichi are in Morioh, and they would also join team Bucciarati to help Giorno with his goal, but they would also meet a Zeppeli by the name of Frito who doesn't know anything about his birth as he was stolen as a baby, but he's selfish, and goes through development after Abbachio dies, but Polnareff would have Mario, Caesar, Caesar's brother, Iggy, Julius, and Dominic with him, but Abbachio and Bruno would still die the same way, but Narancia would survive since Iggy would use his sand clones to trick Diavolo out, but Iggy would die after that, and Mario would die before Bruno and Iggy do as a sacrifice to save Frito, and also Fugo would join the crew in this timeline but he survives, but Avdol would be stuck inside of Coco Jumbo instead of Polnareff. So Caesar, his brother, Polnareff, Julius, Dominic, Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, Rohan, Giorno, Frito, Narancia, Mista, Fugo, and Trish would survive, but RIP Abbachio, Avdol, Mario, Iggy, and Bruno. (Note, Polnareff is considered dead after being stuck in the turtle, so I assume the same logic applies to Avdol IG?) Part 6: So the part starts the same with Jolyne getting framed for a crime she didn't do, and Jotaro would still try to bust her out but loses his memories in the process. So Kakyoin and Rose would have a son in 1994 named Tenmie, Julius and Nico would have a daughter in 1994 named Tatjana, and Polnareff would have a son in 1991 named Jon Perry Michael, with Joseph, Caesar, Caesar's remaining siblings, Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, and Rohan would also join the adventure to Florida, with Polnareff, Julius, Dominic, and Hol Horse joining during the Punishment Ward Arc, while Dominic has a daughter in 1991 named Sophia who is already because she was an assassin but she saves the SO cast from an enemy during her introduction. As for part changes, Ermes would not be bedridden after the Limp Biscuit arc as Josuke would heal her wound but she would die in the Punishment Ward when the group tries to assassinate D an G, but Foo Fighters would survive this arc, Caesar's sister (the older one) would die similar to how Foo Fighters did using the last of her hamon to heal someone and repair Jotaro's memory disc before it gets destroyed, Rikiel would also turn good since Ermes isn't around to kill him, Weather Report would still die during his fight with C Moon, Okuyasu would sacrifice himself to C Moon so Koichi can evolve into Echoes Act 4 which him and Hol Horse would try to work together to beat Pucci but fail with Hol Horse dying in the fight but before Pucci could try and kill Koichi, Jolyne would save him with the mobius strip, and Jotaro still saves her from Pucci's bullets, but Kakyoin, Rose, and Nico would be there with Jotaro though. Rikiel would try to hold off Pucci but almost dies with Foo Fighters, Rose, and Nico saving him in time, Anasui would survive Pucci's attack since Josuke is there to save him, Jotaro would also survive the attack that originally killed him since Anasui is still alive to tank his attacks, Polnareff would sacrifice himself to MIH so the others can escape him, and the fight would go on a little longer, but before Pucci could kill Jotaro, Joseph would sacrifice himself so Jotaro can stop time and kill Pucci, ending the story with Caesar, Caesar's brother and youngest sister, Jotaro, Kakyoin, Julius, Rose, Dominic, Nico, Josuke, Rohan, Koichi, Jolyne, Tenmie, Tatjana, Sophia, Jon Perry, Emporio, FF, Anasui, and Rikiel would live. RIP Ermes, Caesar's sister (the older one), Weather, Okuyasu, Hol Horse, Polnareff, and Joseph though. So thoughts?

[@VampireStraizo]

2:18 He really got despicable with Princess Peach

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

LOL😆!!!

[@IceEpikFace]

The fact Mario had more kids than Dio 💀

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@IceEpikFace I mean, aren't all of Dio's kids basically Jonathan? Bro left him with nothing but a bunch of child support to pay off lol.

[@IceEpikFace]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573Except DIO had children with different women, Mario had 5 children with the same woman 💀

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@IceEpikFaceTrue, but you could argue that all 4 of them are Jonathan's sons by technicality. Plus I assume Dio had more illegitimate kids from other places in the world, it's just we never seen them, since Giorno's mom moved to Italy with him, and we know he was in Florida at least in 86 and later in early 88 (cause of the Stone Ocean sons.) so I believe he had at least a few more in places like Egypt or in Japan since we know Giorno was born in Japan, and Dio only had to have Donatello, Ungalo, and Rikiel in Florida since more would have shown up in Florida had he had more.

[@VampireStraizo]

New headcanon birthday for Mario: March 10th 1880

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Alright, so IG I might have to make a community post when given the chance?

[@VampireStraizo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 For Mario’s birthday?

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@VampireStraizo Yep! 👍

[@VampireStraizo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Alright that seems like a good idea! 👍

[@VanillalceCreamJoJo]

Tomorrow is the day

[@VanillalceCreamJoJo]

This is amazing! Since Mario Zeppeli might learn about Jonathan Joestar's story, he might also learn about George Joestar II's story since he was one of the first people to fly an aircraft and he was considered a hero even among the Royal Flying Corps, so he might learn how George II was the Allies' hero during the first World War, and he might also learn about the Superior Officer who was secretly undead.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

True, it is possible that George II could have lived, but however since George died before Mario did, and also Mario never did get involved with what was happening, unfortunately George II is gonna die :/

[@VanillalceCreamJoJo]

I never said that he would survive, I just said that Mario would learn about his story.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@VanillalceCreamJoJo Oh, my apologies. But yeah he would definitely get to learn at least about George II and his story, plus I feel like he'll take Joseph's side instead of his kids as he'd understand why Speedwagon was not wanting Joseph to learn his family lineage.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@VanillalceCreamJoJo Also thoughts on the parts in this timeline? Like any complaints with them IYO? Also any questions regarding this timeline?

[@VanillalceCreamJoJo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 What do Hol Horse and N’Doul think of each other, and how would they feel about Mario Zeppeli and how would Mario feel about them?

[@DireJoJo]

I believe Mario would have Carpenter tools to enhance his Hamon powers, and I believe he would have his own Hamon cutter with Hamon conducted buzz saws. His fighting style would be similar to Mario from Nintendo (Kinda like Smash Bros.)

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Those are actually some cool possibilities NGL.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

But did you enjoy the video BTW?

[@DireJoJo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Oh yeah I did, it's amazing Mario Zeppeli is getting recognition. He deserves so much more attention than he usually gets.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

@@DireJoJo Yeah, a lot of the Zeppeli's deserved better IMO, but TBF I feel like Araki is so far redeemed himself with Gyro (assuming you've seen SBR before?)

[@DireJoJo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Imagine if Mario learned about "Super Mario Bros" lol!

[@bullymaguire4035]

You did a good job! Mario Zeppeli is a very interesting character to explore.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Thanks. Anything you wanna know about the video, like questions or something?

[@bullymaguire4035]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Would Mario know the events of Phantom Blood? Since he knew about WIll's fate, would he know about how Dio ruined Jonathan and Erina's lives?

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@bullymaguire4035 well, it's kinda hard? IMO, I think he might know about Dio, and and the horrible stuff he did to Jonathan and Erina, since he does know about Speedwagon and Straits/Straitzo, meaning he may have met Erina, so I think he might know about Dio and what he did to the Joestars.

[@bullymaguire4035]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 That would be cool, and maybe he learns what Dio tried to do with Poco and his sister Peggy (I think that's her name.)

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@bullymaguire4035 IDK if he'll know about Poco? But I believe he'll know about what Dio's influence on the franchise a little before 2, and would definitely try to help in 3 once Dio's on the run.

[@IceEpikFace]

Fun fact: Mario from Nintendo was originally a carpenter during the 80s which is the same occupation Mario Zeppeli has. So we can officially say Mario influenced a little bit of JoJo.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

You are right, Mario (in the Donkey Kong game) was a carpenter, also the janitor who got killed by Black Sabbath looked like an older version of Mario, and there is a side villain named Mario (he was the guy Narancia, Mista, and Fugo did the torture dance on.)

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Also IYO (more of a joke question on part 5) but how would Avdol, Josuke, Koichi, Okuyasu, and Frito react to the torture dance IYO?

[@IceEpikFace]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Omg the janitor in the Part 5 manga has the Mario color scheme lol!

[@IceEpikFace]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Well Avdol would find it to be pretty funny because you got to remember he does joke around every once in a while (Like how he peed on Cameo in the Hail 2 U arc.) Josuke would find it to be amusing since Josuke loves listening to music. Okuyasu would probably join in on the torture dance since he’s quite dumb but also somewhat smart and funny Koichi would probably be just confused about it. Idk about Frito.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@IceEpikFace 1. Yep. 2. IMO, I doubt Avdol would really do anything, he'd probably just stand and talk to Bruno and Abbachio. I feel like Frito would probably say a backhanded compliment to them which gets Narancia angry. Koichi would be confused IMO. And Josuke and Okuyasu would find it cool IMO, and try to learn how to do it.

[@JoutaKujo1994]

23:54 LOL! Mario Mario Zeppeli

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

IK it's perfect!

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Also IYO after your done with the video who would you see living and diying, and which characters would return in each part IYO?

[@JoutaKujo1994]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 IMO: Part 2: Loggins, Mark, and Caesar's twin brother dies. Part 3: Messina, Mario, N'doul, and Stroheim die. Part 4: Caesar's first younger sister dies, everyone else like Keicho, Ryohei, Aya, and Shigechi still die. Also Lisa Lisa would die here. Part 5: Caesar's other twin brother dies, Abbachio and Bruno still die. and I believe Iggy will sacrifice his life for Narancia. Part 6: Ermes, Weather, Rikiel, Caesar's youngest sister, Hol Horse, and Joseph die imo. And for returning characters: Mario, Messina, Caesar, Stroheim, and Lisa Lisa return in Part 3. Caesar's oldest sister returns in Part 4 and dies, along with Lisa Lisa. Kakyoin and Avdol also return but they don't die. Part 5: Caesar, Caesar's twin, Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, and Iggy, Polnareff, and Avdol return as well. Part 6: Joseph, Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, Kakyoin, Jotaro, Hol Horse, Caesar's youngest sister, and Caesar return.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

@@JoutaKujo1994 cool, also between the OC's Julius, Rose, Dominic, Nico, Frito, Tenmie, Sophia, Tatjana (Nico and Julius daughter (I couldn't pronounce her name), and Jon Perry Michael who lives and dies and what would they do in the story IYO?

[@JoutaKujo1994]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 OOF I forgot to include them mb. But I don't think anyone of them are gonna die tbh. But here's what I think they'll do in the story. Julius: He becomes the main JoBro instead of Kakyoin, and he tags along with Jotaro most of the time until Parts 4 and 5 where they go their own ways. Maybe they reunite sometime. Rose: She becomes Kakyoin's love and she stays behind when he gets injured by N'Doul, she mostly tags along with him until the middle of Part 4 where she leaves to avoid being killed by Kira. Dominic: He's also part of Jotaro's edgy squad I'm guessing, but he's a free roam kinda guy where he doesn't always stick with a specific group. But I do think he'll be very helpful in the story. Nico: She becomes Julius' love and will do anything to tag with Julius where ever he goes, and I believe she'll save a lot of lives from being taken by villains. Tenmie: (My brother in law I guess) He appears because of his very questionable backstory, but he ruins Anasui's dream lol! But I've known him long enough so he appears for the same reasons. Sophia: She appears because she was prisoned for some reason, that's all I have. Frito: (One of my favorite chips lol, especially with bean sauce.) But jokes aside, he has a similar fate to Weather Report so he's the processor of Weather Report. But he mostly hates Avdol's guts and Avdol is just doing his best to befriend him. But once Frito's grandfather dies, I believe he'll change his ways and try to be better with his uncle Caesar. Idk if he appears again in Part 6. Tatjana: IDK how she gets in the story, I don't have much to say about her, sorry. Jon: He appears because Polnareff is going, and he tags along with his father along with some of the other teammates. But he loses his father which gives him depression.

[@Daniel-TheHedgehog]

What If Yoshikage Kira Becomes Good In Stardust Cruzaders and was Brother of Jotaro Kujo

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

I can try that one, but at the moment I'm working on some other requested what if's, so your gonna have to wait a while if you don't mind?

[@Daniel-TheHedgehog]

No Problem Bro

[@IceEpikFace]

It would be cool if Mario Zeppeli heard the stories of Jonathan Joestar, I wonder what Will Zeppeli and Jonathan Joestar would think about him. Also what would Loggins and Messina think about Mario?

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Yeah, I think it be nice if they got to meet, but I think Jonathan would respect him, and Will would love him. As for Loggings and Messina though? IMO, I feel like both would have a mutual respect for one another, as I think they'd respect each other's strengths, and hamon abilities.

[@IceEpikFace]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Nice, yeah I’m sure they would be close to Mario. Also how will Willam Zeppeli’s death affect Mario’s life, I assume Mario was a little kid or toddler during Phantom Blood.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@IceEpikFaceSo IMO, I feel like Mario was likely really young during PB, (fun fact, William told Jonathan he didn't have any kids in the first release of Will's death in part 1, so in other words Mario and Caesar shouldn't exist, so the only reason Mario and Caesar exist are due to a reckon IG. But back to the point,) so how he found out I can't say, maybe Speedwagon or Straizo told them or something? But I do think Mario was pretty sad about his fathers death (and I think he'd feel worse if he knew that it was Will's fate to die at that very moment.) So I do believe that shaped him into being the way he was, and I feel like he would have been similar to Jotaro from Stone Ocean, being more absent to keep his family out of action, only for it to do more harm as his own son ends up dead to one of the Piller Men, so I feel like Mario would definitely be messed up after his son was killed. So IMO Will's death would be bad to him, but his own son would make him mentally a lot worse.

[@fightfutures2432]

When would you read Steel Ball Run

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

So so far I'm on chapter 25 of it, and I haven't kept up with it for a little while, but I'll try to start back on SBR ASAP.

[@fightfutures2432]

I was about to wait for the anime but I was afraid that David Production will use lots of CGI on the horses. @@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573

[@VampireStraizo]

Yo thanks for the request man! I believe Mario would definitely benefit the JoJo parts. And he would be well respected since he’s considered the best Carpenter in all of Naples.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

NP.

[@VampireStraizo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Also I forgot to say this, but I loved the combination of the Hol Horse and N’Doul what ifs.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@VampireStraizo Thank you.

[@realgeorgejoestarii331]

@@VampireStraizo why r u everywhere 🤔

[@VampireStraizo]

@@realgeorgejoestarii331 I’m seeing you everywhere too

[@andyballiet3600]

IMO, I think that Mario should die instead of Caesar's brother/his son, like have him come in and save the twins, and die there. But minus that I liked the video.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

True, but IMO I think Mario wouldn't die there as I believe it fit Caesar's brothers to charge in instead, since Caeser is a lot more calm and level headed since his dad doesn't die, and the sisters are not fighters so why would they change in to battle Wammu? So IMO I think it fits the twins to do it, and one of them should die with the other surviving and getting an arc out of it (even though we don't see him for the rest of Battle Tendency, and next time we see him is the final fight of Venta Aurora/Golden Wind.)

[@VanillalceCreamJoJo]

Whenever I hear Black Sabbath’s “Iron Man” I always think of Mario Zeppeli for some reason.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

I can see it NGL.

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

Also, IYO who would you have live and die in each part with all the returning characters, plus the OC's?

[@bullymaguire4035]

Makes sense sort of. "Has he lost his mind? Can he see or is he blind? Can he walk at all Or if he moves, will he fall?" Questioning Mario's mental health after the death of his father, and leaving his children behind. "Has he thoughts within his head? We'll just pass him there Why should we even care?" Nobody cares about Mario's mental health, people just care about his carpenter business because he's Naples' best furniture maker and they only care about their products. "He was turned to steel, In the great magnetic field" Mario was absorbed by the Pillar Men into stone. "Planning his vengeance, That he will soon unfurl" Mario is upset at the Pillar Men because they caused the death of his father, and his friend George Joestar II. Now here is where it gets interesting. "Now the time is here For Iron Man to spread fear Vengeance from the grave Kills the people he once saved Nobody wants him They just turn their heads" Mario comes back as a vampire awakening from the Pillar Men stone becoming evil?

[@VanillalceCreamJoJo]

@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Who were the characters again? There were some ocs I forgot

[@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573]

​@@VanillalceCreamJoJo Ok the characters. Part 2: Joseph, Caesar, Caesar's brothers and sisters, Mario, Lisa Lisa, Messina, Loggins, and Stroheim. Part 3: Jotaro, Polnareff, Kakyoin, Avdol, Iggy, Joseph, Mario, Caesar, Julius, Rose, Nico, Dominic, Stroheim, Messina, Hol Horse, and Lisa Lisa. Part 4: Would have a few Crusaders depends who you would add here? Part 5: Same as Part 4, and there is another Zeppeli who goes by the name Frito (but Frito isn't his legal name, and he doesn't know he's a Zeppeli.) Part 6: Whoever is alive from 3, 4, and 5 will show up, with Kakyoin and Rose having a son named Tenmie, Julius and Nico having a daughter named Tatjana, Dominic having a daughter named Sophia, and Polnareff having a son named Jon Perry Michael (you can call him anything you want.)