What if Santa was a Demon?

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Tale Foundry

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@TheTaleFoundry
@TheTaleFoundry 2 жыл бұрын
There's a LOT we had to leave out of this video. Like, a ton. If you want to hear a little more about the background of Morozko and Santa Claus (and why we chose to portray Morozko the way that we have here), definitely check out the extended version on Nebula! You can get access to it for free with a curiosity stream subscription, which is only $15 per YEAR (like $2 a month or something, it's ridiculously cheap): curiositystream.com/talefoundry This is probably the most affordable way to support the channel! We appreciate it so much.
@zionleach3001
@zionleach3001 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on writing tips for dark/ horror urban fantasy? Like Trese,Hellboy, and Monster Hunter International?
@NecrochildK
@NecrochildK 2 жыл бұрын
The 1964 Russo-Finnish movie Jack Frost was an adaptation of this story with some other myths blended in. I always loved renting it as a kid in the 80s. It was one of my favorites.
@NecrochildK
@NecrochildK 2 жыл бұрын
The reward part of the story makes me think of the stages of hypothermia even. Many at some point start feeling hot when they're really freezing, as well as experiencing confusion. This typically drives them to take vital layers of clothing off trying to cool down. When Morozko rewards her, it's treasures and a warm coat. Makes me wonder if it's alluding to her hypothermia.
@macwellgears5701
@macwellgears5701 2 жыл бұрын
How would you get a peer review / recommend. I decided to write my dreams when I was little/ fever dream.
@Take-YourHeart
@Take-YourHeart 2 жыл бұрын
There is also an SCP version of Santa he called Yule man and I don’t want to talk about what he’s doing at crismas.
@lovelydeedee0
@lovelydeedee0 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Slavic, I turned on this video and didn’t remember anything about this story but the moment he mentioned the word step daughter I recalled all the stories and Russian movies I saw about this. Thanks for bringing the memories up! Love your work!
@УманскийПавел
@УманскийПавел 2 жыл бұрын
Тепло ли тебе, девица?) Такая же тема))
@rayned.5536
@rayned.5536 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Frost?
@Mr.Bilal77
@Mr.Bilal77 2 жыл бұрын
@@rayned.5536 yes
@Pleh229
@Pleh229 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that’s just a scp
@helavion8331
@helavion8331 Жыл бұрын
my grandma often told me the story (polish boy here) but it was kind of different. not about a demon, but still about 2 marrys and that 1 was taken into the family of other and the mother hated her etc etc and told her to get brushwood for the fireplace in winter and send her with almost nothing so she went to the woods garied some and saw an old lady on a bridge and the lady said that shes old the bridge is slippy (idk if you know this by now) and if she would help her pass and she did and after that said that shes going for summer holidays out to city or smth i dont remember now and if she could help her in her house so the marry said "i will be pleased to do so" and the old lady showed her house and her dog, cat cow and garden (i will go as fast as i can now i promise) the good marry then took good care of the house and when the lady returned she said that her garden looks like it has been taken care of but she will ask the animals, which said to give the marry the "white" chest and the lady did and took her into a carriage and to her house and the stepmother asked her where she has been that long time and she said she helped an old lady and got that chest which had only good stuff in it (gold, red dyed cotton, fur, etc) and she said to the bad marry: " did you see what your sister got from it? now go to that bridge and get that chest from that lady" (its written better but i go fast now so) and she went to that bridge and the lady asked her for help with crossing it which she said no to and the lady still asked her for help and she said yes and so the lady gave her into her house and she did nothing for the time she was on summer holidays and when she got back she seen her garden f*cked up (sory but i said i go fast) and her house too and asked the animals wich chest to give and they all said the "black" chest, so she gave her but when she unpacked it with the mother she saw snakes, frogs, mud, etc. sory that i wrote a whole essay here but folkstories are my favourite even tho they long.
@kamilalyakaev3187
@kamilalyakaev3187 2 жыл бұрын
As someone born in Russia and raised there, I've been told a slightly different version of the story. Maybe this is some kind of morale restructure specifically for kids, but in this version, Morozko actually takes the girl to his hut, after testing her with the same «Are you warm?» thing. Then, he either leaves or goes to sleep, leaving the female protagonist alone. As a matter of habit, she starts doing the chores, including dinner preparation for Morozko. It goes without saying that the old man is pleased with girl's doings, which is why he awards her with furs and a small enough to carry chest full of jewelry, sweets and other valuables. She returns home with all these gifts to her step mother's displease. It is decided that the second daughter should also try her fortune, which results in her being sent into the forest, but in contrast to her step sister, the girl is dressed quite warmly. Despite that, she fails Morozko's «Are you warm?» test, but he takes her to his hut nevertheless. There she spends her time doing nothing, but annoying the old man, demanding gifts from him. She indeed receives her portion of gifts which look even bigger, richer and overall better than that of her step sister. However, when she returns home, she finds out that rich chest she was given is just an old crate, jewelry inside it is made of ice, sweets are made of mud and furs are just a big piece of birch bark («beresta» in russian), which leaves her and her mother in tears. So, yeah, nobody dies, but the bad guys are pointed to their delusions, as well as a better emphasis is made on obedience behaviour, rather than on embracing outside life as is. At least, that's how I remember it.
@Noob-boi0w0
@Noob-boi0w0 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t bomb my house
@pokepoke1889
@pokepoke1889 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noob-boi0w0 ??
@Someone-dy5ui
@Someone-dy5ui 2 жыл бұрын
I think that is more "modern" gen, in a little more bothers Grimm style. Although, yes, I am from Russia and this is the version I heard, can't argue with that.
@mariustan9275
@mariustan9275 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a German fairytale something like Frau Holle? A girl falls down a well to grab something and ends up in a magical land with sentient thing slike a tree that asks for it's apples to be picked, or a backery that asks for the bread to be taken out. She does them and later ends up at an old lady's house (Frau Holle) and does some chores and eventually goes home. Now after that she is blssed by either showers of gold or gold coming out of her mouth when she speaks. The step sister does the same thing, but without doing any chores, and she either gets frogs coming out of her mouth when she speaks or showers of sticky black liquid maybe tar.
@gumshoe1285
@gumshoe1285 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noob-boi0w0 bro shut up
@atlasweylandeden1091
@atlasweylandeden1091 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how Santa Claus is a spirit of childhood, of the warm hearth and the home, while the Frost Demon represents adulthood, going out into the world and learning to embrace the elements and live on your own. Normally, whenever I see something about ‘Dark Santa’, it comes across as an alternate, opposite version of the same character. By contrast, Santa Claus and the Frost Demon seem to compliment each other really nicely, embodying two parts of a person’s life.
@OnizukaAllMighty
@OnizukaAllMighty 2 жыл бұрын
The Morozko is basically the fate of those who can't stand for themselves in life, the literal "life will crush you unless you embrace it head on"
@stanleyteriaca2184
@stanleyteriaca2184 2 жыл бұрын
Morozko is better known by another name... ...and it is not Santa Claus, but Jack Frost, the mischievous spirit of winter and cold.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 2 жыл бұрын
It's more specific than that. Notice that the characters being put to the test are children, not adults. This is about how a child's upbringing prepares them to face the world once they have to leave home. The moral here is that spoilt children cannot face the world, and instead of trying to keep children safe, and warm, and coddled, a child must be raised properly and be made ready for the world, such that when they meet the demon of winter, the harshest face of chaos, they will pass the test and be rewarded for their conviction and strength of character, so that they may return home to their parents as someone they can be proud of.
@angstydoodles1101
@angstydoodles1101 2 жыл бұрын
Morozko: Are you warm, child? Me: Not really, but it's whatever. Thanks for the concern.
@anzeigefehler6495
@anzeigefehler6495 11 ай бұрын
If I had a bad day: "How does it look?" If not: "I cant deny Im not as warm and confortable as I could be" or "Have been warmer"
@Story_paint
@Story_paint 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure i would say i am warm… i admire her strength.
@moonstonepearl21
@moonstonepearl21 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be like, "Do I look warm to you? How in the world would I be warm?"
@nourask5675
@nourask5675 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed,
@alexjewett7455
@alexjewett7455 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I absolutely can't stand the cold. I'm kind of like a Reptile like that.
@moonstonepearl21
@moonstonepearl21 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexjewett7455 It's funny how certain things can change basic things about your body. I was the person who was always cold for as long as I could remember. Then in the precovid days, I got really sick with something intense. I actually almost was going to go to the hospital but didn't, and it did get better. However for weeks after I recovered, I felt super hot, all the time. Then eventually, it calmed down, and now how I feel about temperature is probably about average maybe. It's strange how stress on your body can change something like your feeling of temperature.
@oo8962
@oo8962 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonstonepearl21 exactly lol. I'll be like "Bro you blind? I'm literally shivering right now" and then the morozko would be like "This girl is rude af" *freeze me to death
@nourask5675
@nourask5675 2 жыл бұрын
narrator: He's willing to kill his own daughter, just to pacify this wretched woman. Also subtitles: Parent of the year. 2:39
@gigiakallal9312
@gigiakallal9312 2 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@marlutteyestrelt3441
@marlutteyestrelt3441 2 жыл бұрын
This tale is inspiring and comforting to me, the opposite of the expected reaction. Even as an adult, I am always curious about morality and ethics as I was a child. Graduating from philosophy only sparked more passion for the philosophies of mankind, and in the modern age, specially the spectral digital dimension, I am an impotent witness of the most repugnant wickdness of man. But remembering stories like this, wher virtue, temperance, perseverance and valor are rewarded; as cruelty and sadism are punished accordingly, matching and even surpassing the wickedness of the people inflicting it, is a comforting fantasy that I hope can manifests. We read in shocked awe about the horrors of old fairy tales, but there has been a clear slaying of the mystique lessons of kindness and virtue; which should transcend biases and preferences, in our present day. Dehumanized, people will torment each other out of boredom, free of consequences. It brings me comfort to believe, almost childishly, that wickedness is punished eventually. By any force willing to listen and aid. That the brutality and cruelty of the world can be corrected, even if painfully. I put my trust in these monstrous beings to remind us about our own humanity. Thank you Tale Foundry for reigniting my faith, not dogmatic, but passionately spiritual. Believing that determined perseverance in the adversities of life and wickedness of others cutting through me as the flesh cracking cold of winter will only be my demise if I deem it so. Thank you, and happy holidays; and prosperous life to come. To all.
@prapanthebachelorette6803
@prapanthebachelorette6803 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@Acacius1992
@Acacius1992 8 ай бұрын
Just that this cruelty and all negativity is also part of humanity.
@kingjester3628
@kingjester3628 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a tale children should hear around this time of year it teaches a rather good and memorable lesson that many people never really got when they were younger
@alethearia
@alethearia 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about Morozko from the Winternight Trillogy by Katherine Arden. Honestly that series was my great introduction to a lot of Russian fairytails. But it was just a starting point. I love hearing older and more complete versions.
@KitKatWiffleBallBat
@KitKatWiffleBallBat 2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the trilogy? I need new things to read. 😑
@naastyaaaaaaaaa
@naastyaaaaaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
It is a great series - but, as you said, only as a starting point for someone interested in russian folklore. Maaany things and creatures there (including Morozko himself) are badly represented and aren't anything like their "real" prototypes. The trilogy is hella engaging, yes, but not as accurate. That being said, it's so cool that Katherine Arden managed to get some folks invested in our mythology. :)
@trollkienofficial1225
@trollkienofficial1225 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great trilogy! I'm Hungarian, so I was kinda familiar with slavic stuff, but I learned a lot from those books. And of course, the story is amazing too! :)
@alethearia
@alethearia 2 жыл бұрын
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat I love the books. She took the flavor or the folklore and applied a magic system that feels authentic. She drops a lot of names of folklore characters and creatures that, if you know the actual folklore can really give her stories a lot of depth. But if you don't, now you know some names that you can look up. I really really loved the characters. Another good one is Spinning Silver by Naomi Novik. It's set in a fictional Lithuania and draws on a lot of themes from folklore (even if the folklore itself is completely fictional.) So, more Rus-adjacent vibes. But Novik is an excellent writer, I highly recommend. But yeah. I back up what Nastya said. These stories are a great place to start. They're respectful to the culture and folklore, but they aren't gospel.
@sarahluchies1076
@sarahluchies1076 2 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting angle, and I'm sure some of the Santa Clause mythos came from stories like moroseco. But I like to bring up a story from the early church. One of the bishops in its first couple hundred years was named Nicholas (later named a Saint). He had a reputation for giving gifts to the poor and needy, especially for one time where he secretly gave three sisters money for their dowry, so they could find a good husband. This is possibly also the Nicholas who got mad in one of the church councils and punched a guy. He was kicked out of the council, but the guy he punched was also speaking heresy, so neither of them won.
@lucykoelle6602
@lucykoelle6602 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me less of Santa Claus and more of the tales of a girl getting strawberries in Winter. Abused good children behaving well and others not when they venture from home seems common. I don't believe abuse helps make you more independent. Also, knowing when to ask for help is a good thing for adults to know. I do like her being independent. I've heard another version as warm as god made me.
@hattafan2593
@hattafan2593 2 жыл бұрын
There's actually a similar tale called "Diamonds and Toads" - it's a French tale about two daughters, one sweet, one spoiled. The sweet girl goes into the forest one day and ends up helping an old woman. The woman ends up being a fairy, and she blesses the girl so that every time she speaks, jewels gold and flowers would fall from her lips. When the spoiled daughter finds out, she goes into the forest to get her own blessing, but she ends up acting entitled rude to the fairy. As punishment, the fairy curses her so that every time SHE speaks, toads and snakes would fall out of HER mouth.
@princeblackelf4265
@princeblackelf4265 2 жыл бұрын
A very tame adaptation of this story was presented in the Soviet movie " Morozko", which was translated as Jack Frost when dubbed in English and brought over to the States. They mix it with another Russian fairy tale and Baba Yaga gets involved. It was perhaps most well known to those of us who loved the classic version of Mystery Science Theater 3000. Morozko is definitely depicted as a very kindly Russian take on a classical old world Santa Claus figure rather than the elemental frost fairy-demon As an aside, I am so pleased to learn that Nebula is available on Roku. Roku presents Curiosity stream for free ( no subscription required) so I don't think I can get Nebula for free in addition to it but for 5 bucks I can just get a Nebula sub and I am glad to do so
@Silverflame-1
@Silverflame-1 2 жыл бұрын
It is FASCINATING to learn about these legends from other places! (I love the added detail of how the gears are frozen over, haha, that was really cute)
@ginnyjollykidd
@ginnyjollykidd 2 жыл бұрын
Part of the mystique of Santa Claus is that all parents have his ear. They are the ones who tell him who was naughty and who was nice. (Santa has the last word, though.) Parents who raise their children to embrace success and independence observe their children and realize their differing abilities. These parents tailor their treatment and education according to to their children's abilities and strengths while also trying to slip in those behaviors expected by society whether or not they are right or not. For instance, tolerance and dismissal of ineptitude in people in high office: One professor I worked under, in answer to one PhD candidate's rant over the ineptitude of a seminar presenter said, "I apologize to everyone about our guest speaker, but when the department head says, 'Let's invite So - and - So,' we say, 'Yes.'"
@EddyScbr
@EddyScbr 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really fascinating tale, with a deeper meaning that, to me, is far more relatable than the usual tales of Santa Claus and/or Krampus - even if I haven't exactly ever been thrown out of home to try and survive in the cold wilderness. Some very interesting themes, even in this short snippet (shame I can't afford to sub to Nebula right now to check the full version) - also, loved the art on this video, y'all just keep improving on that front with every new video.
@anonimanonim2710
@anonimanonim2710 Жыл бұрын
We have a version of this in Romania as well, "The hag's daughter and the old man's daughter" (sounds better in Romanian). But there, when the old man's girl is banished, she encounters and proceeds to work for Saintess Friday, taking care of strange animals. At the end of three days, out of a room full of chests and boxes, she picks the smallest and ugliest of them, and it turns out it's full of riches. Jealous for the sake of her daughter, the hag sends her to the same experience, but not only is this one lazy, she also chooses the biggest, most ornate coffer she finds. Inside are Saintess Friday's animals, who devour mother and daughter. The end This is rather about hard work and humility being rewarded, though; but we have an abundance of stories of the same pattern
@philosophicalphil6611
@philosophicalphil6611 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Morozko is the inspiration of, not just Santa Clause, but also Jack Frost and maybe Krampus.
@animewiccan4072
@animewiccan4072 2 жыл бұрын
The concept of Santa Claus actually mainly comes from Odin, mainly because he came down to the human realm to learn their ways (because he was a wonderful nerd) and in exchange, gave the humans he found worthy gifts and rewards in return for teaching him something and he punished those he saw as unworthy (I think he also had something to do with winter, although I don't entirely know that for sure). Not to mention one of the many ways he enters one's house directly is through the chimney! (Don't ask me why, I'm honestly not sure XD.)
@moonstonepearl21
@moonstonepearl21 2 жыл бұрын
The frozen gears tying to move and ice everywhere is such a nice touch for the season and for the topic of the video. You even have an alternative version of your theme song that sounds more wintery. I love these kinds of details!
@konquerorworm2798
@konquerorworm2798 2 жыл бұрын
"I think it has a real chance to sour the experience for you. On the other hand, it could also enrich it! It's all a matter of perspective." I'm not sure exactly what it is about my perspective that does this for me, but I think I'm firmly in the "enrich" category. If I may be frank about my life here, the past few years haven't been kind. I've weathered it as best as I can, but things are coming to a head. I'm rather amazed I've lasted this long in my own proverbial winter, but I think enough is enough. You addressed something that stuck out as poetic to me here. The modern Santa Claus seems to be a model centered around childhood, the whole "enforcing the rules of the house" thing. But sometimes the house isn't a solid foundation. And Morozko being that allegory for endurance and providing for oneself? I think I needed that right now. TL;DR: The Morozko tale resonates with me a lot, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a telltale sign I should seek therapy.
@TheTaleFoundry
@TheTaleFoundry 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone should seek therapy. I get it regularly, whenever I feel confused or frustrated or helpless. It helps to get an outside perspective from someone who knows how to see things clearly Also, good to hear from you ❤️ -Benji
@Kuwagumo
@Kuwagumo 2 жыл бұрын
I already knew that story, but in the version I read, he wasnt called Morozko: instead, he was winter itself!
@MySqueezingArm
@MySqueezingArm 2 жыл бұрын
One of my parents is nuts, and they told me Santa wasn't real when I was 5. I never spoiled it for my younger siblings (with a step parent) though. It stripped away the magic of the holiday, but made me appreciate the family time more especially as an adult.
@DocumentaryFanboy
@DocumentaryFanboy 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact In Ukraine and Polande Morozko is considered a positive figure since the 90s. He is the husband of Winter (pronounced Zyma) and was created from her tears which she cried due to her lonelyness in her home on the Iron mountain (her home). His staff is so powerful that when it touches the ground frost appears, and when it touches the water it freezes. He punishes those who make his wife cry. Icesickles are manifestations of his words and winter clouds are his hair. While in actual folklore he is spiteful and malicious towards people he enterd in the cultural zeitgeist with the 1964. fantasy film of the same name (known in America and UK as Father Frost or Jack Frost), which is considerd to this day to be one of the best films to come out of the Soviet union. In Poland even an ice creeam was named after it to capitalise on it's succes.
@TheTaleFoundry
@TheTaleFoundry 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh this is really interesting! Thanks for the info! -Benji
@DocumentaryFanboy
@DocumentaryFanboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTaleFoundry No problem, and sorry for grammatical errors, I had other stuff to do and forgot to double check.
@NationalDevin
@NationalDevin 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I am a victim in the same way that is discussed in this video. Periods of rampant abuse interchanged with gifts for me to be the person they wanted me to be. I understand both of my parents are damaged goods in their own way and they needed time to heal but at the same time don't respect the way they treated me or the other kids in the family. I love them and I'll forgive them but when I heard about the kid being perfectly obedient and nearly getting murdered for it, I just kept thinking of childhood. It is wild to me how much the storylines with my personal beliefs, about how you should be able to stay independent from your family
@rylee.ashely_mikai8584
@rylee.ashely_mikai8584 2 жыл бұрын
This frost demon may also possibly be the origin of the ‘demon of Christmas’ known as ‘Krampaus’. Actually, Morozko [Please god let that be spelt correctly] is pretty much the same thing as Krampaus just with two separate differences, A. His name, and B. The fact that krampaus comes to the children who are naughty but Morozko lives in the forest. This may also be the reason why, in Christmas legend, Krampaus is said to be much older and more ancient than the depiction of old Saint Nicholas… Just a thought 😋😜😙
@colorfulhumor4724
@colorfulhumor4724 2 жыл бұрын
~Sees Tale Foundry upload~ *Likes video before it even starts* ~Sees the low ratio of likes to views~ Criminally underrated ---> *Triggered*
@notasithyet7735
@notasithyet7735 2 жыл бұрын
They looked back at the small creature, their features gentle but their eyes burning with a harsh light. "I have made myself warm." They reply, their voice firm. Idk I tried. Wonderful video! I really liked the story.
@hannahross9256
@hannahross9256 2 жыл бұрын
Her dog speaks to her because; of course it does. XD love this video and the Christmasy theme music!
@G.F.SF55
@G.F.SF55 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh! You don't know how many times me and my sibling used to watch the film of this story, this brought back some memories :)
@bethanylovelace8684
@bethanylovelace8684 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect thing to listen to while i quilt!
@brickosaurbuilderofworlds
@brickosaurbuilderofworlds 2 жыл бұрын
What, you DON'T dream of doing the backstroke through various dairy products??
@TheTaleFoundry
@TheTaleFoundry 2 жыл бұрын
I consider those nightmares -Benji
@ashleycook6025
@ashleycook6025 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really appreciating the Slavic folktale themed videos. My Reserve Unit is going to Poland and I began investing time and enthusiasm in culture and language in preparation. But My mental health hasn't fully recovered from about 3 yrs of strain compounded by a lower back and hip injury, My doctor could not ,in good conscience, release me from my profile, a document saying what I am and am NOT allowed to do bc of illness or injury. Many of the members of my company have become like family to me and I will miss them. The gentleman who was my platoon leader and absolutely an inspiration to work with was moved into the slot of our outgoing commander. He is just as green to deployment as many of us are but, the detachment would have followed him anywhere and the sentiment was spreading. I miss them all already.
@yoggsaron8968
@yoggsaron8968 Жыл бұрын
Morozko, while one of the beings whose original appearance was almost forgotten, still is prevalent in more stories than one might think. In one - there are two of them. Frosty brothers travel through the forest and look for people to freeze and shoo from their woods. They find two targets for their work. First, they find a lumberjack, who is barely clothed, too hot from chopping wood. The other - some noble riding through the place wrapped in furs almost completely. The older one sends the younger one to try and freeze him, arguing that he was not as experienced, so someone so lightly dressed should be just right, while he takes the guy in proper garments. The younger Morozko agrees and they go to their targets. While the older brother has no trouble, only once slipping under the furs and making the terrified noble run away as soon as he could to get somewhere warmer, the younger one didn't succeed as much. The lumberjack, while barely dressed, was working hard and the cold from the spirit just bounced off without any effect. Later the two brothers reunite and the older one lunges at the younger, keeping it not clear if he knew the result would be like this or not.
@jamesgreene6113
@jamesgreene6113 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this story before, but it was connected to Jack Frost instead of Santa. I can understand where you’re coming from.
@hedleybutler9706
@hedleybutler9706 2 жыл бұрын
My sister got the stocking filled with coal one year, she still got her presents from Santa but he left her a note telling her he was disappointed in her. I'm pretty sure it worked too. Santa is definitely equal parts festive and punitive🎅⚖️
@Idontlikeanyonehere
@Idontlikeanyonehere 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this video recommended to me (maybe because I what cpg grey?) and I love your art style, it’s very unique and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a robot (or something alike) telling stories and bringing thought provoking prompts, and I love it
@BitterAndSour
@BitterAndSour 2 жыл бұрын
This story, is it the original piece that inspired the creation of Santa Clause. The story is diffrent in so many aspects I can almost not believe it.
@fyshman152
@fyshman152 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so; if I recall correctly, modern-day Santa is based off of Saint Nicholas, a monk who was known for giving away all of his inherited wealth and traveled the country helping the poor.
@BitterAndSour
@BitterAndSour 2 жыл бұрын
@@fyshman152 That sounds accurate and reasonable enough to be true.
@stanleyteriaca2184
@stanleyteriaca2184 2 жыл бұрын
This is also the story of one other mythical winter being: Jack Frost.
@princeblackelf4265
@princeblackelf4265 2 жыл бұрын
This is not the sole source for the modern idea of Santa Clause, but it is one piece of the puzzle. Odin himself is often viewed as one of the inspirations for Santa Clause as well in addition to the christian story of Saint Nicholas
@yanapetrovska9065
@yanapetrovska9065 2 жыл бұрын
I love your interpretations of stories I learned as a child
@tommcmillan4933
@tommcmillan4933 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the letters Talebot kept receiving from the mysterious entity inside the Foundry?
@assamite9614
@assamite9614 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Poland, we got "Dziadek Mróz" that sounds somewhat similar that translate to "grampa Frost"
@guest-ck9jh
@guest-ck9jh 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really, really love to subscribe to curiosity stream especially because of the documentary you talked about, but I'm not an adult, so I can't work yet
@PapaOoni
@PapaOoni 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect this to be a horror version of Cinderella.
@thegayghost872
@thegayghost872 2 жыл бұрын
This story sort of reminds me of Cinderella, with the evil stepmother and a girl being rewarded for putting up with her crappy life
@despinasgarden.4100
@despinasgarden.4100 2 жыл бұрын
It will surprise you how popular the concept of a wicked stepmother is in fairytales, Cinderella is also a very pupular one, almost every culture has his own version of the story.
@lynxgamerlife
@lynxgamerlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@despinasgarden.4100 I have a saddening feeling that hard childhoods from unloving parents was common back then. It’s still too common but better now.
@despinasgarden.4100
@despinasgarden.4100 2 жыл бұрын
Santa Claus is acutally based on a Christian Saint (Saint Nicolas) his story is actually very sweet, tough, Christmas does have a slavic and pagan base since Christmas is a christianization of the roman holiday Saturnalia and/or the tradition of Yule. I can see this story also being an inspiration for Santa tough, i mean, Krampus is a thing after all.
@princeblackelf4265
@princeblackelf4265 2 жыл бұрын
Santa is a weird mish mash of many different figures from history and folklore. Modern Russians view Morozko as a very Santa Claus-esque figure even if he didn't start out that way.
@orcwarchiefreviews
@orcwarchiefreviews 2 жыл бұрын
Saint Nicholas is also very metal like the one time a father went insane chopped his children up and threw him in a bucket and Saint Nicholas walked in clapped his hands and the children's return to life and went to bed There's also a Thor out there that carries an axe
@EmilReiko
@EmilReiko 2 жыл бұрын
Very bold of you to assume pagan Slavs didn’t have a midwinter celebration
@despinasgarden.4100
@despinasgarden.4100 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmilReiko i never said they didn't had one, i just know Yule for the moment, i'm still learning and i haven't looked into slavic paganism.
@orcwarchiefreviews
@orcwarchiefreviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmilReiko well a lot of cultures have a winter solstice especially in Europe
@aear7147
@aear7147 2 жыл бұрын
How have I lived this long without knowing about this channel???? Criminally underrated.
@sabreman8546
@sabreman8546 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like, if presented with this scenario, I wouldn't want to try lying to the actual faerie creature that just appeared in front of me, so I'd probably say that I was cold, but that I could endure.
@КириллКувинов-ь5к
@КириллКувинов-ь5к 2 жыл бұрын
There is a telling (it's not confirmed though) that Morozko used to recieve human sacrifaces. A virgin, sacrificed to him, would be called "Shegoorochka" which is now known as Granpa Freeze's granddoughter and helper.
@Waffllez
@Waffllez Жыл бұрын
For some reason your voice/ videos get me in the mood to write. I love fantasy and listening to these videos opens up my imagination. It mixes fantasy with pure sadness and it makes me want to cry. I love it. Thank you, truly.
@rex9412
@rex9412 11 ай бұрын
Overly sarcastic productions made a video on santa. from memory he was a mix a lot of things but most memorablely he has a lot of his origin relating to Odin.
@pacificdragon1452
@pacificdragon1452 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's about a different video but thank you for making a video on the king in yellow it inspired me to buy it and got me back into reading, I really enjoy the content and has given me the spark I had for English before my secondary education
@thebard5019
@thebard5019 2 жыл бұрын
suggestion for a video! sorry if its already been said at some point SPOILER WARNING Im a huge fan of dark souls and in dark souls, a large part of the plot revolves around a great and grand lie. The entire purpose of humanity is a falsehood woven by the gods to prolong their age of fire and their power I was wondering where else things like this appear in writing, and if there is a specific name for this kind of plotline/ setting Another concept used heavily in dark souls is the decline of majesty into ruin, and i think that theme would be interesting to discuss!
@Nightfire613
@Nightfire613 2 жыл бұрын
I am...unsure of how to describe it, how this video makes me feel. I cannot stand on my own two feet and say to the demon of frost that I am warm in the face of the biting winter air, but neither would I demand luxuries I thought due. I can't take care of myself, that is a fact that I live with, I will never be able to live without care. Morozko could ask me a thousand times if I was warm, and a thousand times I would say the same thing, no, I am not, but I am used to the cold...
@player2joinsthegame
@player2joinsthegame 2 жыл бұрын
I like how during halloween where the cogs are webbed and christmas where the cogs are frozen they don't move like the usual videos it makes it seem more real
@crowcollector5267
@crowcollector5267 2 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite tale as a child! Growing up in Bulgaria, my grandma loved telling me all sorts of fairytales
@DrXaiver
@DrXaiver 2 жыл бұрын
Love the aesthetic change, really amazing job
@SpinSurgery
@SpinSurgery 11 ай бұрын
Is it just me, or does it seem like the authors of early modern Europe REALLY HATED their step parents? Surely you met someone’s children before you married them, and if the relationship was that awful, maybe marrying and living together isn’t the best idea…
@kittenlord3572
@kittenlord3572 2 жыл бұрын
I am super late, but I think that at ~3:05 the thing with cheese and butter is a russian idiom, meaning that everything goes really smooth and great, just like how smooth cheese covered in butter is
@anonimanonim2710
@anonimanonim2710 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to make a dirty joke about that whole "are you warm" thing, but there's something about the earnestness with which you make these videos that compels me not to😅
@bennie1079
@bennie1079 6 ай бұрын
I can recommend the SCP called the Yuleman. If you like dark and gory stories. It’s a spin on Santa, that turns him into an actual monster that kidnaps kids, turns them into the elves and sometimes even the presents themselves.
@DneilB007
@DneilB007 2 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video: Aaaahhh! Not Slavic winter fairytales! Nooooo!
@thatonetattooartist
@thatonetattooartist Жыл бұрын
Even as a child, I always found the tale of Santa so weird. There was just…too many loopholes, like an story that wasn’t thought out and written properly ‘the North Pole is too cold for someone to stay there forever’ ‘he can’t be able to visit ALL the houses’ ‘where does he keep the list?’ It goes on and on.
@Phantom_FlameXD
@Phantom_FlameXD Жыл бұрын
i love how the gears in the corner of the screen are frozen!!!
@Mr-Blue-42
@Mr-Blue-42 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel, the art and storytelling is both creepy and captivaded and full of my favorite subjects. History, folklore, mytology and more, Keep up the good work :)
@yuudontenomi6947
@yuudontenomi6947 2 жыл бұрын
That was heavier than i expected , good stuff.
@itmademesignup9508
@itmademesignup9508 2 жыл бұрын
This was more Cinderella than Santa Claus.
@bethmarriott9292
@bethmarriott9292 2 жыл бұрын
Me, easily pleased: "ooooh, a FESTIVE intro music" 😍
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting timing with this video’s posting. I just watched MST3K’s riff of the 1964 “Jack Frost” film a couple days ago and found this in my recommendations.
@blep8895
@blep8895 2 жыл бұрын
Not Slavic, but I had recently come across this tale a couple months ago, and I’m glad someone talked about it!
@thoughtengine
@thoughtengine 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the old Scandinavian legend of the Utburd (or: Child Carried Outside.)
@Readrose8
@Readrose8 2 жыл бұрын
I like morosko. My childhood was horrific so I too had to rely on myself. Aye. I’d have said warm enough, or I’m fine ; cuz people asking if you need something they may use it to make you owe them. Still not convinced that morosko would not have done the same.
@blackover2190
@blackover2190 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a version in which, the second daughter was not frozen but showered with black sticky tar. Regardless, as far as I know, the story has many versions
@jlancov8890
@jlancov8890 2 жыл бұрын
That dog is a bloody legend, my dog would've spilled everything I want at the sight of beef
@renatocorvaro6924
@renatocorvaro6924 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm going to use this in a DnD game.
@seytray1533
@seytray1533 2 жыл бұрын
You better not pout... You better not cry... Because Santa is coming... into townn.. He sees you when your sleeping, he knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness' sake.
@CEBANKURSAHOO
@CEBANKURSAHOO 2 жыл бұрын
The narration of you broooooo dammm gooood , keep it up.
@Vazenroy
@Vazenroy 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel!!! Yall are so underrated ❤️❤️❤️
@zambiepug4199
@zambiepug4199 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the gears are frozen and don't move its a great touch
@egyptwns89_26
@egyptwns89_26 Жыл бұрын
It's so Cinderella-esk. THIS is the Christmas/winter story we need.
@bogdanmijajlovic6336
@bogdanmijajlovic6336 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE your videos! You are the smarest and most creative people i know, I just wish that i could afford to watch all your videos on nebula :(
@CEBANKURSAHOO
@CEBANKURSAHOO 2 жыл бұрын
Also think about crampus , the dark santa who drag any bad behavior child into hell promising more warmth in winter and for good children well, he spare their life as life itself is biggest give any one can endure.
@starmaker9804
@starmaker9804 2 жыл бұрын
I mean… you can literally rearrange “Santa” to spell out Satan with just one move (Just like how one specific angel was 1 step away from fallen…)
@exclipser
@exclipser 2 жыл бұрын
2 moves*
@starmaker9804
@starmaker9804 2 жыл бұрын
@@exclipser Nah you just have to move the letter “n” to the back 👌
@tinydancerpresents1504
@tinydancerpresents1504 2 жыл бұрын
”you should be careful if you remember this as a tradition”. I have never believed in Santa and didn't know who he was until I went to school in Kindergarten bc everyone was talking about Santa and I had no clue who he was
@8thgod769
@8thgod769 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t even cap I’ve seen your videos but this definitely put me on
@DeterminedCharcoalEater
@DeterminedCharcoalEater Жыл бұрын
quote: "in good hands, she would have swum in cheese and butter." me: *D E L I C I O U S*
@danielmalinen6337
@danielmalinen6337 2 жыл бұрын
Almost every culture has its own Christmas character. In Finland, the scariest moment of Christmas for children is still the moment when, on Christmas Eve, after the sauna and the sixth full Christmas meal, a white-bearded man in a red coat arrives to gives the christmas presents and then it leaves as suddenly as it came. And usually Santa's presence makes little children cry and hide. But it hasn't always been like this (except that the children have always been afraid of the Christmas visitor) and in the past Santa dressed in turned brown fur coat and he didn't always even have time to visit the house. In some cases in 19th century he just threw the christmas presents in behind the door and laughed menacingly, which the children usually found threatening and stressful. Then Santa left and made everyone wonder what this new thing is. But even before that, our Santa Claus was used to be called Nuuttipukki, or Kekripukki, in Finland and he went from house to house asking for leftover food and drinks. And if there was leftover food and drinks in the house (and hopefully they had extra), it had to be given to Nuuttipuki or he threatened to do handful of pranks throughout the coming year, such as keeping the residents of the house awake at night by jingling cowbells or destroy the house's oven, which kept the house warm in the winter. And the children were afraid of Nuutti, who had a mask made of birch bark on his head, goggles as glasses, turned fur coat and a long wooden stick with which Nuutti used to scare and threaten the children. However, the idea that Santa Claus is supposed to give Christmas presents to children and not so that families are supposed to give food gifts to Nuutti came via Germany and North Ameriga from South East Europe. And this change only happened in Finland at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century. But since Santa Claus and the Christmas characters before him have always been scary, Finnish children think that the modern Santa also has something scary and threatening.
@mateusds909
@mateusds909 2 жыл бұрын
I find myself at the cross roads you speak of. Thank you for sharing this tale on a not so bright christmas
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 2 жыл бұрын
For a child growing into adulthood, the home becomes ever more hostile, and it's not because of our parents. Try as we might, our parents cannot resist this force that sends us away from our homes, out into the cruel, cold world. But if the upbringing we received at home was a good one, then we can face the world, as harsh as it is, with our heads held high, meeting it head on. And if we do this, the world will reward us so that we may return to our parents as someone they can be proud of. But if we cower in the face of adversity, if we blame our shortcomings on others, and if we demand instead of earn, then the world will chew us up and spit us out, and we return home mere shadows of ourselves, now that our illusion of our self-importance has been shattered, like a thin layer of ice. This is a warning to parents: Prepare your child to face the demon of winter. Because he is out there, and no child can avoid it, no matter how much you coddle them. This is a lesson that parents these days have utterly forgot, shielding their children away from adversity and unleashing them upon the world as infants in adult bodies, where they demand that the world change for them, and provide them with safe spaces, and that anything that might offend them be removed from society. This story is an old one. Morozko is the embodiment of winter, as is Krampus and the traditional face of Joulupukki, the Yule Goat. Winter has always been the harshest trial of humanity. It is cruel and unforgiving. Those that do not work hard, that do not treat life with respect, are given no quarter when the demon of winter comes visiting. This is why the outcomes of these stories are so shocking. The step daughter freezes to death. She doesn't receive coals in her stockings, she doesn't return crying because she didn't get her way. No. *_She dies._* Because that is what happens when you treat life and its difficulties with contempt like a spoilt child: you die frozen in the heart of winter. This has been a literal truth for tens of thousands of years. It is only of late that we have conquered winter. But even though today the consequences do not involve freezing to death (in most cases, at least), they still are dire. Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them. And pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient.
@moonstonepearl21
@moonstonepearl21 2 жыл бұрын
I get that it is not supposed to be taken literally and that it has a deeper meaning behind it, but the questions, "Are you cold?" when you are in the middle of the woods in the winter and having to say no to it, is more than a bit ridiculous. That kind of extremely passive attitude that sometimes shows up in older stories is not a good thing to teach children.
@Ye875
@Ye875 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video.I think you should make a video about Krampus The Christmas Demon
@catcrimes80
@catcrimes80 2 жыл бұрын
Tale Foundry: Be warned this will ruin you imagine if Santa Claus Everyone in the Comments: Wow I like this better.
@kharijordan6426
@kharijordan6426 2 жыл бұрын
Lying to his face and to yourself that you are warm... Doesn't feel like you are taking care of yourself. The way you saw this story really is twisted...not in a evil sens, but in a mixed up sense.
@vermiciousknid2456
@vermiciousknid2456 2 жыл бұрын
This may not be the kind of Christmas story I grew up with but I like it.👍
@damnatiomemoriae1894
@damnatiomemoriae1894 2 жыл бұрын
Numero 8! Good morning & Mary Christmas
@wcapewell3089
@wcapewell3089 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that morozko was a version of jack frost.
@iplaygames803
@iplaygames803 2 жыл бұрын
I love this story way more than Santa! Thank you so much for sharing.
@KRAVIX
@KRAVIX 2 жыл бұрын
The Letters In Santa Can Spell Satan.
@DogOnRock
@DogOnRock 2 жыл бұрын
I rode this book in school:) Thx for raising my memory's:)
@anguskellerman9691
@anguskellerman9691 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should cover House of leaves if you haven't already done so, it's a fascinating and bizarre read
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