What if Smash Bros Ultimate gets Ported?

[@NathanielBandy]

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[@PorkyMinch]

I will :)

[@DataGaprindashvili]

Hi

[@leahluostarinen]

it would be cool for more smash characters

[@tonyrodriguez5983]

Bro, you should raked all Pokémon episodes and movies

[@theenderkirby]

Yeah is probably gonna be the the treatment of mario kart 8 deluxe

[@aidenbowe2188]

Smash Ultimate is such a huge game, I can’t see Nintendo making a whole new game until around 2028 at the earliest

[@ThatGuyLegend]

2028 sounds a bit far fetched, I'm thinking 2025

[@jacklike2526]

That would mean that they hate money and they love money

[@MDE128]

2028 makes more since because of Brawl in 2008 and Ultimate in 2018.

[@Leee275]

​@@MDE128Aren't you forgetting Smash 4?

[@grunkleg.2934]

​@@Leee275 Yeah, but so did everyone else

[@Kazman2007]

I want them to bring back Trophies. Having 3D renders of characters you could view from all angles was really cool. If they just want to keep with spirits, at the very least I’d love for them to add descriptions to the Spirits. Having the little text blurb for trophies was cool and really made Smash feel like the ultimate love letter to gaming and I’d love to see that return.

[@SeanWheeler100]

Yeah. I would want Trophies back. In fact, they can port the trophies from Melee, Brawl, 3DS and Wii U and add some new trophies based on the Spirits in the game.

[@TheReZisTLust]

They could even mash em up and have a desk and wall you can place the stickers and trophies for pictures

[@blami8]

​@@SeanWheeler100I know Nathaniel is a master of childish fandom ideas but think a minimum, an as excellent franchise can't recycle like that, it’s just ridiculious to wish bad quality content

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@blami8 Then the bad outdated trophies can be improved on.

[@blami8]

@@SeanWheeler100 They're old gen designs, before Smash Wii U it's completely outdated

[@camgames]

Honestly, I would love for a Smash Bros All Stars. It would include Smash 64, Smash Melee, and Smash Brawl. It would honestly make the fans really happy, and if they include online with each game, it would be an amazing collection

[@zlatanbogdanovic6874]

I agree with you. I just hope they add Waluigi. Mihajlo Bogdanović

[@valymomento]

This would be a goated move from Nintendo

[@kariqdatmenace6642]

Hell yeah that'll be an awesome collection

[@Gruncle]

Nintendo would never put that much effort for less than 70 dollars

[@dick_puncher]

6 days ago wtf

[@choosbehguy]

Did just want to point out a few things with the character selection that I personally feel. Rex would be kinda weird given Pyra and Mythra are already in there, and they’d probably pick someone from Xenoblade 3, but idk who since I’ve never played it. Also Shadow for an echo fighter, a lot of people were upset, including myself, when he was announced as an assist trophy in the final direct, despite being one in previous games, and makes too much sense not to include, especially the second time around. And lastly I feel that Meowscarada is a bit more likely as a Pokemon rep, as we don’t have a fully evolved Grass starter yet

[@FireFury190]

Noah from Xenoblade 3 is the main protagonist. He'd likely work similarly to Byleth by using the weapons of his fellow party members. Since you can do that in XC3. I think Meowscarada also makes more sense since bipedal characters are much easier to work with. Plus you can do some creative things with the trickster magician motif. Shadow as an echo I'm surprised he didn't mention because that's one of the easiest ones fans have wanted.

[@Zoroark_Master]

Also bandy mentioned his reasons to think Rex should be in the port was because sakurai wanted Rex in but couldn’t. But the thing is that version of Rex sakurai wanted was one where Rex was accompanied by Pyra&mythra kinda like ice climbers, and that Rex without Pyra&mythra felt kinda lame to sakurai.

[@domotron3598]

Personally I'd go with Mio for an XC3 rep since Noah would feel a little too similar to Shulk to me. In my mind, Noah would basically be Shulk but a fair bit faster. The only real change would be the neutral B and the down B since Noah doesn't have Monado Arts (at least not the way Shulk does) or visions. Maybe he could switch weapons via Down B like Min Min instead of using them for different attacks like Byleth? For neutral B I'd think the safest choice would be a chargeable attack using Lucky Seven like Roy/Chrom/Ike, but what I'd rather see is a move like Sephiroth's uncharged up B, being a quick dash in a chosen direction. Now that all sounds well and good, but overall, if those are the only big changes, he's still too similar to Shulk to me. Mio's weapon of choice seems a lot more unique and I think there's just a lot more that the team could do with it to make it stand out. Just the fact that the rings can be thrown already makes them more interesting than another sword, but having moves that represent her defensive capabilities in xc3 opens even more doors. Other thing worth mentioning is the potential for different costumes. For Noah they could definitely do ones for the different party members like Shulk + a certain letter of the alphabet with an awesome gold color that id love to see, but Mio has the (very minor spoiler) change in hair length which just gives a little more variety. Overall I think Noah would by all means be fine, (as long as they do it right and don't just entirely copy Shulk) but there's fewer characters in Smash like Mio than there are like Noah, so having her would be a bit more interesting.

[@Zoroark_Master]

@@domotron3598 i don’t see Mio getting in without Noah while i see Noah getting in fine with or without Mio (i it happens, it’ll be either just Noah or Noah and Mio)

[@FireFury190]

@@Zoroark_Master Unless you used Future Redeemed Rex. But that's clearly not the version Bandy was talking about. Let alone I doubt he even knows given that he forgot about Xenoblade 3 as an option for new characters.

[@quantummotion6686]

On the topic of Mii fighters, it would be great if they included a customizer similar to that of Miitopia, which could be used to make the insanely realistic miis that were in that game to be more creative. Even better, we could even be able to port our Miitopia miis into Smash as Mii fighters.

[@cooperbenwman6717]

This would be amazing and to add on that they could add a miitopia fighter what your saying but also add a tomadachi life fighter

[@loshtrimpo8781]

If a new console comes out I'd hope the mii editor is as good as Miitopia's

[@PhantomOfficial07]

@@cooperbenwman6717 How could there ever be a tomodachi life fighter? How would that even work? Miitopia has potential though, imagine they add the Dark Lord from that game, and you'd be able to choose a mii to be it's face. That would be really clever

[@t-elijahmorrison6855]

Ultimate, a new mechanic is introduced: in the event of simultaneous grabs, both characters take minimal damage and act as if a rebound occurs. Grabbing special moves are less consistent; while most behave under this new mechanic, Inhale determines the grabber at random, and Fishing Rod uses port priority.

[@SweetzTheOne]

w…..why??

[@jaret3944]

That sounds very dumb

[@jumentoqueanima]

It's impressive how much the quality of this channel has improved! Everything is well scripted and with cool animations and editing! Keep it up Nathaniel!

[@plooper14]

I miss when he would make jokes in his videos

[@RKMCHere]

​@@plooper140:32 This counts as a joke though or something

[@tomfoolery2885]

I watched his mario 63 video, and it’s clear he made a lot of improvements

[@INFERNO95]

He lie to people about waluigi Wario brother .

[@mrcwillis6970]

I wouldn’t mind a deluxe port of the game, especially if it actually has new content like characters, stages, music etc I just hope the next proper smash game can be worked on for a long time so it can be as big as Ultimate.

[@jacklike2526]

Do you really believe that ultimate is made by one person?

[@TableSalt_]

@@jacklike2526 he didn't say that

[@jacklike2526]

@@TableSalt_ I never said he said that, It was a question. Nintendo didn't take long at all to make smash so I asked since he said "I just hope the next proper smash game can be worked on for a long time, so it can be as big as ultimate" he was probably talking about a year which is bullshit. The only long-term project nintendo does is Zelda.

[@mythicalrock2486]

free rainbow road

[@Doracake]

Ultimate is big cause it's based on Smash WiiU directly. So that next game will likely just be bigger than Smash WiiU.

[@ifocus6673]

I hope they make a storyline for smash bros and build your way up with unlocking characters and finally beat a boss.

[@abyss8190]

world of light:

[@Salza02]

@@abyss8190imo it wasn’t fun

[@tatersthegoat]

@@abyss8190 ehhhhh subspace was better

[@andrewbrohm9304]

True

[@duebfofn]

I want them to do something more related to the Subspace Emissary.

[@thatdudeonyoutube9849]

1:50 despite how much I would want Rex in the game, I feel like it’s more fitting to have Noah be in the game instead, considering that we already have a Xeno 2 rep, and it would be nice to Noah be in the game so we can have representation for the whole xenoblade trilogy, and besides if we do get another full on smash game it’s likely we’ll get to see Noah as a character

[@jazyzamp3056]

It would be cool if the other party members would be Noah's alts kind of like bowser jr and the koopalings. I think this could work since any of the 6 main party members could use any weapon class in XC3, so there's canonically no issue with eunie using Noah's moveset for example

[@thatdudeonyoutube9849]

@@jazyzamp3056 that’s true but I’m sure people would be super pissed if they had the exact same move set, at least they can give Noah all the party members outfits for alt costumes

[@jazyzamp3056]

@@thatdudeonyoutube9849 honestly Noah wearing outfits from other weapon classes would be cool too

[@fish5266]

I feel like they could add in Rex with pyra and mythra with a stronger engine. Either make him the 3rd fighter who dual wields or have him do normal attacks while the aegis does specials like in the actual game. That way pyra and mythra are with Rex, and it doesn’t take up a character slot for a different character. Everyone wins

[@davismorgan99]

I’m hoping for an enhanced port with like 10 new characters. Ultimate kinda feels like the culmination of the smash series in a way that brawl and 4 never did

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

i mean yeah ultimate was always meant to be a culmination of the series, those two were just meant to be installments

[@FireFury190]

1:50 BRUH NOAH IS RIGHT THERE!! WE LITERALLY GOT XENOBLADE 3 LAST YEAR! I love Rex but we already have XC2 representation on the roster. I'd say suggest Elma too but who knows when X will get ported or a sequel by the time the next Smash game comes out.

[@KeebeThePlush]

Given what they did to Mario kart 8 deluxe years after the game was released, wouldn’t be surprising if they did something similar, especially given they’ve done a ton of other ports in the past

[@jockson7574]

And they could do it NSMBU Deluxe imagine even tho it’s unlikely

[@just-a-fnf-fan]

@@jockson7574did they not do nsmbu deluxe already though

[@jockson7574]

@@just-a-fnf-fanoh wait I thought he was talking about dlc

[@jamessartstudio7904]

One really cool thing that I'm surprised they haven't added already is Master hand mode he's already playable at the end of the game but only once why not unlock A mode after you play him where you can play him anytime you want

[@VGJol]

Personally I'd rather have Proto Man as an echo fighter for mega man, considering how similar they play in the games

[@Grey_Fox019]

Making your own target test stage sounds like a fantastic idea!

[@mepzerok]

For all the stages that haven't comeback and are too similar in design to stages already in Ultimate, I think I have possibly the best way to incorporate them. Steve's stage will cycle through the different biomes every time you load the stage. You could get a grass biome back to back, or you could get a grass biome and then a stone biome. And you can get night and day versions of each stage. Make the similar stages a cyclable part of the existing stages. One round you could get cornera and the next round could have cornera sector z. Just add an option to turn off cyclable stages and choose which version of the stage you want to play on. Also, this would be more of a Smash 5DX rather than a Smash 6. Unless the updates get so big it becomes another TotK situation where it might as well be a new game

[@Br00keAC]

2:48 “Don’t judge me” Oh I’m judging you pal!

[@jakemoralez5667]

The break the target in stage builder ideas s genius, and would make so many people happy without the trouble on nintendo's part to make 90 unique stages. Another thing is definitely adding a "favorites" tab for the stage select screen. It'd be extremely helpful for competitive players to easily get to the stage they pick, and you don't have to worry about scrolling through different tabs or struggling to even find the stage on the "All" tab. Incredible video!

[@jinpachimishima4415]

12:43 There is something similar to boss rush. The end of World of Light has you fight all the bosses in a row before fighting Galeem and Darkhon at the same time. I think it’s interrupted by platforming stuff though, and I think it excluded the hands.

[@Jakewebmaster8]

How about this: We add custom moves from Smash 4 back. I had a blast trying them out on each character with each move so adding them back to Ultimate would actually make characters more customizable and more interesting. It's strange how it only exists for the Mii fighters in Ultimate, so add custom moves in for every character.

[@tastyfalcon1788]

I would only support this if they were automatically unlocked, as unlocking them in Smash 4 was a nightmare

[@EnderMon]

Getting all the third party characters a SECOND time will be a corporate nightmare lol. They will have to talk to Disney again lol

[@D1TB01]

I really hope that the port will add in stuff we couldn’t see in the original. Im glad we both have very similar ideas to this approach.

[@8-bitskull]

The thing about sora was disney wasn't the issue, tetsuya nomura, the creator of kingdom hearts, didn't really want sora in, that was why it was so difficult to get him in, also just for clarity, Waluigi isn't wario's brother, they are just friends

[@Sean_Bird]

A Smash Ultimate port/Deluxe version is certainly a possibility, and if it is the road they take, then there are many additions and fixes I could see happening. I don’t see us getting a second massive story mode, unless they focus it only the previous Ultimate DLC and the newcomers of the port. Good video Bandy, but I have to say, you did have a few… questionable ideas. (Zero does not work as an Echo of Megaman, at all.)

[@bigbrainedSteve]

X would be better as an echo fighter, though he’d still be very different

[@raphaelelias2833]

Or Protoman

[@Gabo2oo]

7:23 Just do the same thing they did with the Spirit Tracks stage. When Ridley joins the battle, Alfonzo takes his place as the stage boss.

[@Morphop3]

Or just don't change anything, since this Ridley is a clone.

[@grunkleg.2934]

The big thing about a Smash Ultimate port on the console right after the Switch is that I don't really see that being as big a system seller as Smash Bros should be. Like the reason a bunch of Wii U games got ported to Switch is because the Switch sold while the Wii U didn't. Smash still sells a bunch of copies of course, but chances are people who already bought Ultimate might not be interested in buying the new products. Also straight up, Zero is not at all a good fit for a Mega Man Echo. Quite the apples to oranges comparison. It'd be like making Wario an Echo of Mario, like you just don't do that

[@supersonical8770]

I'm gonna be honest, if Smash Ultimate Deluxe happens. You know sans is gonna be one of new characters since I'm pretty sure Sakurai wanted to add him because he got beaten by Toby Fox but couldn't since the DLC was already decided.

[@leahluostarinen]

I still find it hard finding my favorite stage in smash but its tough finding when it's all over the place

[@DreamerSouls]

Back in easily be fixed by adding a filter system to sort by Smash game Game series Stage size Ect

[@GoldenSandslash15]

After watching this video, I hope that Nathaniel Bandy is NEVER put in charge of the Smash Bros series.

[@liamgaming6752]

If we truly consider this to be on the same situation that Mario Kart 8 is in, That means a dlc adding more stages and characters. I don't have Ideas for stages but I do have Ideas for Characters, 1: More Sonic characters, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Eggman, etc. 2: Dr. Luigi and Paper Mario. 3:Impa

[@nanite6263]

I think we can all agree that we want a boss rush mode

[@Kollin539]

Shadow as an echo of Sonic needs to happen too

[@Gabo2oo]

9:50 I think one of the reasons they ditched trophies was precisely because of the descriptions. You'd have to write 1,500 of them in at least 14 different languages. Since they're mere descriptions used as side-content (as opposed to, say, the dialogue for an RPG's storyline), I'm pretty sure any producer or publisher would question investing in something like that.

[@grunkleg.2934]

They needed to make models for all of them too

[@TwinkofArchie40]

I don’t really like your idea for Fuecoco, but one Pokémon I think would be awesome in Smash would be Palafin. It’s already a unique Pokémon with its gimmick, and I think it could be adapted to Smash if done right.

[@jockson7574]

I think Quaquaval makes more sense

[@evancaps27thegoat47]

We need a new grass starter

[@verrredd]

so your video boils down to just redoing everything that already been done. what a high effort video.

[@carltonleboss]

They should update Palutena's Guidance and Snake's Codec for all characters.

[@hyperlink0366]

Yesssssss! That has to be done!

[@SeanWheeler100]

They've updated Palutena's Guidance for Ultimate, but didn't give any Palutena's Guidances for the Fighters Pass. Snake's Codec, I can't believe they did not even edit those dated conversations that said "here in Brawl!"

[@hyperlink0366]

@@SeanWheeler100 It would have been cool if the Palutena's Guidances were expanded on past Piranha Plant and were done for all the Fighters Pass characters as well.

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@hyperlink0366 Yeah. I mean, they already expanded Palutena's Guidances in Ultimate to include Smash 4 DLC fighters, cut veterans, Ultimate's base game newcomers and Piranha Plant. I guess the voice actors for Pit, Viridi and Palutena could not be bothered to come back for every DLC coming in the game. And apparently, Snake's codec's couldn't even be updated for Ultimate because the voice actor for the colonel died. Smash recasts voice actors, right? They could bring in a new voice for the Colonel. Or if they really wanted to respect the Japanese voice actor of the Colonel, then they could just have Snake calling Otacon and Mei Ling for the new characters.

[@caribarts01]

1:52 idk I think it’d make more sense for it to be either Noah or Mio for another Xenoblade rep since Rex’s fighting style is already in the game with Pyra and Mythra

[@Doktario_Mystario]

12:50 that's literally Sepiroth's classic mode it was even in the Sakurai showcase

[@Montra78]

Rex wouldn’t be in the port cause Pyra/Mythra are the XC2 representation. Noah and Mio (XC3’s protagonists) would make it in instead. Plus Mio fights with rings instead of a sword so people can’t really get mad at her.

[@pokeminion64]

Honestly I could definitely see this. For a new smash game though, I’d say shorten the roster by a bunch. Only have the essentials, fan favorites, and some others. Reason why this is important is because each character gets a new move set, with the option of switching to the ultimate moves. As for new characters, well that’s up to interpretation

[@axolotlstudios7918]

Just keep piranha plant

[@Planet_omar]

1:24 Wario and Waluigi are not brothers, they are friends!

[@SFjacketguy]

I think what they next smash game could do is completely reboot the franchise, bring back a handful of characters, most with revamped movesets, and then focus on new things, while it would take longer to develop, I feel it would be an appropriate step after bringing back literally everything, I absolutely wouldn't mind an ultimate deluxe though!

[@eddychim209]

Bringing in the Subspace Emissary, is a great idea, they could remake all the cutscenes with the Super Smash Bros Ultimate style.

[@B-Cat100]

Even though smash ultimate is MASSIVE, it still feels incomplete: No banger story mode (but the reason for no story mode is okay, I’m not begging for one) But it feels like there REALLY needs to be reworks or changes to some characters, (Young link, Toon link) And so many final smashes just feel like placeholders or something, EVERY new thing in ultimate is amazing, characters, modes, spirits etc. but it just feels like it’s missing SOMETHING

[@johnnyhickman3083]

14:34 That was the perfect opportunity to say “it’s later” AND YOU MISSED IT Cool concept though, lots of cool ideas!

[@roccocarrozza9133]

One thing I think that they should do that you didn't mention, is that I think they need to revamp the old fighters and make them feel more innovative. Characters such as Mario, Young Link, and Ganondorf

[@T.Wilson-13]

They need a update!

[@station428]

I *highly* doubt anything in this video would happen. It would be a licensing disaster. Sakurai himself said Ultimate is the only time this will happen, he even stepped down from Smash Bros. so the next game won’t even involve him. The next game will likely be a reboot.

[@rafaelblackman9879]

In my opinion, Smash Ultimate has a quantity vs quality issue. Yes, it has a lot of stuff but that doesn’t mean that adding more stuff on top would make it better. Plus we’ve been down this road before. When Ultimate got teased, we thought it was gonna be a port of Smash 4. There are better ways to improve Smash than just making Ultimate bigger. Shrinking the character roster would allow for better additions than the clones and would mean better balance. It would also mean better movesets for existing characters. Shrinking the stage list would mean better, more creative stages could be made. Last but not least, Smash could be improved mechanically. The buffer system, multi hit moves, basic and advanced movement, ledge mechanics, recovery, etc could all be tweaked or improved for the better. Smash doesn’t need to be as slow as it has been since Brawl. There’s a reason why most other platform fighters play closer to Melee than modern Smash and I think the series should move in that direction.

[@TheMasondwich]

1:34 Actually, the reason Crash didn’t get into Smash is because they decided the DLC before he got popular again from the N Sane Trilogy, and Sora was added in LAST minute because he was the Number 1 Highly Requested character.

[@frendamikoto]

ive actually had this idea in my head for a while now, i think itd be great to get something like 10 new fighters 10 new echos (most probably for the new fighters). improvements to the game in general. and most importantly moveset tweaks ranging from big changes like whole new ones for ganon or just small ones like just swaping chrom for morgan in robins final smash etc

[@fireembliam9090]

2:12 I want to see Mascorada.

[@XanderW7381]

I feel like ultimate is in a similar position to Mario kart 8 deluxe. If they made a new game from scratch it would be much worse especially with Sakurai retired. I think a new team/director could easily handle a deluxe version with balance updates, new fighters (maybe 2 more passes) and maybe even a new mode or two. While smash’s roster is already absurdly big there are always going to be more wanted characters so there isn’t a reason to stop but also no need to start again from scratch (wrote this before the intro said pretty much the same thing lol)

[@Bowmaster-ic3yl]

I had an idea about the Ridley boss stage, so what if when you play as Ridley on the stage you spawn in as the boss but in the animation a mini mushroom spawns in and Ridley goes to the playable Ridley

[@StarzGecko]

Man, I hope we get Geno. He definitely would be awesome as well getting both Crash and Master Chief since it would be epic to finally have the 90’s mascot boys together 😅

[@Doracake]

90’s mascot boys? what is that?

[@StarzGecko]

@@Doracake like the iconic characters of the 90’s that sold gaming systems like Sonic with Sega and Mario with Nintendo. Crash was the PlayStation mascot back when PS1 came out. Even though Sony never owned him, he definitely was a big influence for selling PlayStation when I grew up during the 90’s. Messed up my comment with Master Chief part there since he came out in 2001. Which he definitely deserves to be in since it would be epic to see the original mascot characters of each console from that time period in Smash Bros. Nintendo - Mario Sega - Sonic PlayStation - Crash Bandicoot Xbox - Master Chief Seeing all 4 would be a dream come true and a totally tease to amazing fan video back in the early days of KZbin of a fan animation of them facing off.

[@Doracake]

@@StarzGecko Oh I see. You start the comment with Geno so I was kinda confused.

[@axolotlstudios7918]

With the Mario RPG remake, It could happen

[@Doracake]

@@axolotlstudios7918 isn't Mario already in Smash bros?

[@TheKingSothis]

I genuinely would be disappointed if Fuecoco is the Pokémon choice. The fire starter is constantly the one that gets attention in Smash. Charizard was the Pokémon who got to stay when they removed the trainer in Smash 4 and Incineroar was out Ultimate Pokémon rep. The concept is cute, but let it be Sprigatito’s line so we can round out the starter final evolutions in each type. Or go with Miraidon and Koraidon, I think they’re the closest we can get to seeing another legendary mon be playable. We haven’t gotten a non starter mon since Brawl with Lucario.

[@TheFloodFourm]

I would actually like an ultimate port for the simple fact that it could give them the opportunity to make substantial improvements to the formula in an actual sequel (I can’t be the only one whose dying to see how these crazy match ups would play out in a fully 3D environment)

[@hectorsanta76]

7:28 I think they could do something similar to the spirit tracks stage where if a variation of Link is playing the conductor gets replaced so when Ridley is playing, "Stage Ridley" could get replaced by another Metroid boss!

[@lightning_round]

I want a new smash game just so they can bring back trophies and so they can finally make a legitimate story mode

[@yt-ru7dv]

They're not making a new one sakurai said he isn't I think multiple times

[@octanproductions6492]

"Smash Ultimate. has no way to fight all the bosses back to back." You kinda do that in sephiroph's classic mode, and I've seen people not using mods just fight Them as any character.

[@roryroryroryroryrory]

I think Switch U (that’s what i’m calling it) cartridge slots will be backwards compatible with Switch cartridges, hopefully both sharing the same menu and everything. I think they’ll just make DLC with new stages, characters, and features, since the game would already be playable on the Switch U.

[@jockson7574]

I think that they won’t move onto the switch U until Pokémon scarlet and violet dlc is done, possible tears of the kingdom dlc is done, SMB wonder + possible dlc is done, and MK8D Wave 6 releases concluding the game

[@yesitis1724]

Waluigi, crash, spyro, doom guy, master chief, geno, noah from xenoblade, ryu from ninja gaiden, paper mario and a character from golden sun is what i want

[@brytilaar]

Also Cooking Mama, Jibanyan, Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton

[@yoyos1ime]

Bandana Waddle Dee kinda deserves to be in the next game considering his prominence as player 2 in forgotten land and how big the kirby series has generally gotten

[@rolluploomann1263]

7:39 plus Chrom is in Robins final smash and you can play as Chrom even when he's hit with Robins final smash Smash bros Doesn't make sense

[@AvatarNeo]

My first choice for a new character is undoubtedly Ninten. People don't seem to realize his potential and how distinct he is from Ness.

[@raphaelelias2833]

Yes and no, Nintem would be a great option it could even bring some focus back to the series and who knows they might even release a remake but at the same time I would be kind of worried because Lucas didn't need to be a clone of Ness and they still did that

[@WitherofEarth]

6:20 to be fair on pac maze, im pretty sure the main reason it wasn't included in smash ultimate was cuz of the gimmick the power pellet idea is cool but it only really works for the 3ds game, since afaik the ghosts do not turn blue for you if you weren't the one who grabbed the power pellet. that only applies to the person who DID get the power pellet, so if you're playing smash bros on the same screen, instead of using separate screens for each player, that would get extremely confusing really quick, so i can see why they didn't include pac maze

[@lemoncat9329]

I think it's more likely we get a Xenoblade 3 character than Rex.

[@Jman20077]

This sounds goated. The only thing I would change is to add Kratos from God of War, Sceptile from Pokémon, and Scorpion from Mortal Kombat. Instead of replacing the new fighters, I’d just add them to the roster entirely. Maybe with Sub Zero and Dry Bowser, and as extra echo fighters to round the roster up to 95. Also, we need to replace Min Min with Spring Man. The other Arms reps including Min Min could be the alts. Spring Man’s the main character and it just makes sense as he’s more iconic and interesting.

[@Doracake]

God of War isn't on NIntendo Switch, as I remember? If so this franchise cannot be in Smash bros for now. And wasn't ARMS about an equivalent roster of fighters, just like Tekken and Fatal Fury? I don't hate the characters but it's incorrect to say Spring Man is more important than Min Min, since they're supposed to be equivalent. It's safe to say all of the main cast have chance for next Smash game. Even the directors mentioned that Ninjara was their second choice behind Min Min. If you are not happy about their opinion you can only question them or ask other fans to give more support for the character you like.

[@DjoingDalton]

Rex? Dude, of course they'd go to Xenoblade 3 now. in general, with a smaller amount oif newcomers like this, it'd make more sense for them to go to primarily newer first-party titles, with maybe a single third party one. (I mean, the only new third party franchise in the base game was Castlevania). The new Pokémon and the Octoling seem like the only realistic character choices in this entire video. Rest of the video is solid though. Kudos.

[@whereswill1289]

how do you talk about echos and not bring up shadow, he's literally the most wanted echo

[@TheReZisTLust]

Shadow needs to be a character since hes gonna be getting a movie appearance soon and if he did i hope he had a counter neutral B as his 06 reference

[@Doracake]

He is requested more because of his echo potential , so not so much to do with the movie.

[@butterccm]

I got a fun naming idea for this. In Japan ultimate is Super Smash Bros. Special. So here we get Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Special Edition and in Japan Super Smash Bros. Special Ultimate Edition.

[@supersentaimexicano1967]

If I had to make a Smash Deluxe I would add no new characters, nor Echo's figthers and just make a Subspace Emmisary. Theres almost 90 characters and none of the interact with each other, not including fights. I think the only thing lacking in the biggest crossover of the history, its just proper interactions

[@alex-s6r7g]

I hope there is a boss battle mode which include Dr. Eggman and Dr. Wily as new bosses.

[@SmartBob69]

I don't see this happening, in my eyes Smash Ultimate is called ultimate for a reason, it's the ultimate game bringing back every previous fighter, adding newcomers, and DLC characters, in my opinion Ultimate was Sakurais way of waving the series off forever in the greatest way possible, we've had fun predicting characters and freaking out over new reveals, but at some point the fun's gotta end, in Soras trailer we see the Smash Orb release a single flare introducing Sora before burning out, in my eyes that there was Sakurai ending the series, the Smash orb burning out declaring the end of Smash with Sora as the final character being the one character we all wanted.

[@pikaverse2497]

Smash Modders: WRITE THIS DOWN, WRITE THIS DOWN

[@beppp01]

3:28 Zero is not even from the same "series" as the Mega Man in Smash, Proto Man and Bass makes much sense as echos

[@Doracake]

Isn't he?

[@beppp01]

@@Doracake Zero is from the "X series" while the Zero shown in the video is from the "Zero series"

[@Doracake]

@@beppp01 I assume that's still MegaMan in general? Problem is Capcom has many other unused and independent brands like Ace Attorney and Monster Hunter. They'd have more priority than MegaManX consider that it's not own original franchise. You cannot really say MegaManX is equivalent with Resident Evil regarding to Smash entry.

[@beppp01]

@@Doracake Yeah but the X series is a 100 years past the classic Mega Man then the Zero series follows the event from the X series onward

[@notmeerkateater]

8:36 splatoon 3 exists

[@AverageNintenGuy]

7:48 Or when Ridley is in the stage himself, perhaps a different Metroid Boss could appear? Or just remove the Ridley boss when Ridley is selected

[@Zaxh01]

If they do port I just hope they update the mechanics and add wavedashing. Like come it’s so close to being implemented.

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

Bandy, I love that you want Zero in the game, and you even showed his Zero series version specifically which is my preferred of his two forms. But he would absolutely NOT be an echo. His combat revolves around the Z-Saber, not projectiles. He has to be a separate fighter with unique references to his games in his moveset, like the Shield Boomerang as a special move or the Chain Rod being a ranged grab. Personally, I just want a new Smash Bros. Dial back on the absurd amount of fighters and stages so more focus can be put on the side content. We need a new platforming adventure in the style of Subspace, we need an expanded Smash Run, and we definitely need a better Stage Builder that’s easier to navigate. I suggest combining the straightforward style of Brawl’s with the easier to understand Wii U interface. You could build stages with either system or even combine both into something entirely new. Also, custom target test and board the platforms stages. I also think Special Orders should be brought back, it was a nice way to challenge yourself and unlock stuff, and Crazy Orders was addicting as heck. As for new fighters, Zero has always been at the top of my list. Next, Waluigi. His Time Has Come. Third, Crash Bandicoot, with Coco as his echo fighter. We definitely need a new fighter from Sonic’s series too. Shadow, Tails, Eggman, Knuckles, any of them would be awesome additions and I am very disappointed in Sega for not giving any of them the chance to be a fighter. It’s hard to go wrong with a Pokémon fighter, and for my pick I’m choosing Meowscarada. Not only would it be great to finally have another Grass-type, Meowscarada would be a really unique fighter thanks to the magician theme. Lastly, I think it’s only right to have an indie fighter. Indies are an important part of the gaming industry, after all. As for who it could be, I’m not sure. I think Shovel Knight and Shantae are the most likely choices (though Shantae would probably need a redesign from WayForward since her outfit is a tad revealing). But the one I would love to see the most is the crazed Italian chef, Peppino Spaghetti!

[@MatthewGhirardi]

I made up my own concept list of what if Super Smash Bros Ultimate has a deluxe version

[@MeesterTweester]

The issue with 8-player Squad Strike is the game loads each character before every stock, not at the start of the game. Even with 2 players it takes a bit to respawn, so if all 8 players died at the same time some players would be waiting a while to respawn. However, the next console could be powerful enough to load them faster, so who knows.

[@nicholasdean3467]

Is 4 years between Mario kart 8 and Deluxe not enough to make a new Mario kart game? The SNES was 4 years between 64. Then 64 was 7 years. Then Wii was only 5 years. Seems like it would have made sense for Nintendo to make a new Mario Kart game instead of re-releasing Mario Kart 8 (if the Wii U didn't sell so poorly no one played the original Mario Kart 8) 0:30

[@jumentoqueanima]

Honestly I would like Yo-Kai Watch Jibanyan! The Yo-Kai Watch franchise is so fun!

[@MegaFeeso]

Tilting the menu with the right analog has to return

[@BIueGuY-1]

Hey Nathaniel B! I just wanted to ask when will you rank every DK game?

[@asafjuarez1]

I want Shadow the Hedgehog to join the battle and be an fightable character, it would be so cool if he joined the battle

[@asterthehedgehog6861]

While I ageee that I don’t know the future of Smash, after Ultimate, I have to counter argue your choice for new characters (Echoes included): Waluigi is NOT a legit Nintendo character and was built for Mario TENNIS. He has no identity. The fact he’s a literal meme now and given more credit than he deserves makes me roll my eyes at you bringing him up AGAIN. Crash is an obvious YES as long as he gets his Craah 4 self as a skin. As for Rex, I have a hard time believing what you said given he is an Mii Costume twice and the booby ladies got in over him. And if you want a new Pokémon, we already have a cool concept with Cinderace or Meowth (as the villain to hero Pikachu). But if you want someone from Paldea, I would choose Quaquaval, Meowscarada or Koraidon. I also give a HUGE PASS on Master Chief since we already have Banjo as a Microsoft representative. If he got in, then you’ll get more babies wanting TF2, Fortnite, Doom Guy or Overwatch represented (I’d rather have Piranha Plant stay than keep Steve.) If I replaced your choice for Master Chief, how about someone to represent Nintendo’s mobile games, like the heroes of FE Heroes or even a Hyrule Warriors exclusive character like Lana or the Champions of Breath of the Wild? I’d also take Krystal of Star Fox or, for 3rd party, a rep from something actually popular: Genshin Impact Octolings are a dead obvious, I don’t know the Mega Man lore and given the fact Bandai is legitimately trying to ERASE Mrs. Pac-Man from existence (I think she’s a modded clone), that is never gonna work. Also, of all the choices you picked, you DIDN’T think of more obvious ones like SHADOW. THE. HEDGEHOG?! Sonic needs another representative more than we need Wario’s “fake brother”. We have a bunch of characters who should be considered echoes too but aren’t that I think it needs to make more sense than Mrs. Pac-Man One big difference I’d also add is changing Ganon’s skin to be TotK and change Bowser’s Final Smash into Fury Bowser.

[@hyperlink0366]

1:41 I can't be the only one who thought that was a pun right? Also, I can't stress just how much I want Dante to be in smash, as he has a really creative use of different weapons from the 5 dmc games (I doubt Nintendo will put any DMC Devil May Cry stuff in there if he does get in, maybe a costume at best) and it would be a more original and unique sword fighter. If not, then hopefully another SEGA character. I know SEGA have said that they want to look into reviving some of their older IPs (about time SEGA) but I would like to see one in smash one day that isn't sonic. I wouldn't even mind if it was a different sonic character.

[@jeffersony4613]

There is absolutely NO CHANCE of ANY Halo charcter EVER coming to smash.

[@eliparrott9350]

I've seen this song and dance before partner

[@mihd9874]

Rex? by this point if they add a xenoblade rep it would most likely be Noah from XC3.

[@kcoop1425]

They should to a remake collection They remake every game (up to brawl or smash 4) but they make completely new move sets for every character with no clones

[@Doracake]

I mean later Smash games are technically the evolvement of the previous ones? Otherwise that would ruin the "everyone is here" purpose of Smash 5 which tried to concluded all past games. And consider how competitive the Smash roster entry is, I think general fans would just want Nintendo to focus on making more new characters in next Smash game.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

4:00 i don't see it happening because Bandai Namco actively tries to remove Ms.Pac-Man from cannon while Sora is more a case where he's just hard to get because his license is likely very expensive. Add the fact that Bandai Namco is the developer of the Smash franchise for the last 2 games, there is just too much that goes against it ... Pac-Mom on the other hand

[@Dairunt1]

I think they could replace Ridley from Pyrosphere with Mecha Ridley, the robotic copy from Metroid Fusion.

[@Gator159]

If they included the original subspace emissary and then a full-blown sequel into the same game That's the only thing I could think of that would get me on board to buying this thing.

[@penguinclub2008]

I genuinely want to see bandana dee in smash because there wasn’t a new Kirby series character as of smash ultimate, he would be a VERY good character :D

[@Shikojen]

Not gonna lie, if those 5 were the ONLY new additions outside of echoes for a DELUXE version of Ultimate, it would be really underwhelming. for starters I love Fuecoco but its not really all that popular and the evolution mechanic doesn't really fit Pokemon in a Smash perspective. It'd be more fitting for a digimon Rep since they canonically DO digivolve and revert down to lower stages after taking enough damage. Master Chief and Crash are fine no complains there. Rex is fine I do want him in but with such a limited newcomer amount he'd be underwhelming for most. Waluigi same thing basically. I'd replace Fuecoco with Tinkaton, Rex with Noah & Mio or Nia as a blade to driver stance change theme to her, and well replace Waluigi with Shantae as shes more hype and was shown as highly requested in a mii costume debut with Dante, Lloyd and Dragonborn.

[@xavierlmw8602]

Only thing I'd say is Noah from Xenoblade 3 instead of Rex from 2, since there are already Pyra and Mythra from 2 and nobody from 3