What If Spain Broke Up?

In this video I talk about the hypothetical, yet unlikely, scenario of Spain's communities becoming independent, and Europe gaining several new countries.
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[@General.Knowledge]

Would you want to see this happen? And are there any other countries in which separation is possible?

[@youtubetroller2451]

Nope I prefer a unified Espana

[@Kepastry]

I think it's more realistic a united Aragon, a united Basque and a Independant Galiza or a union between Galiza and Portugal, TBH

[@tsareric1921]

Personally not a fan of a lot of European unitary nations. I think Spain needs to break apart. Could you do this for the UK with the 4 countries but maybe break england into its 6 regions.

[@kukuelmuku8447]

@@tsareric1921 Where are you from?

[@chickennugget6654]

@@tsareric1921 theres no officially recognised regions of England. as in below the UK parliament is nothing but constituencies, of which there are over 600. this is the case for England at least but not for Scotland wales and northern Ireland, however with them also, below each of their regional parliaments are only constituencies. so it would make no sense to break england up

[@marcosmartin8328]

I heard here more times Extremadura than in one year of spanish's news.

[@danielperezbastida7860]

Muy cierto

[@kaiseramadeus233]

@@user-rt4ve7ks6u stop

[@juann1492]

Muy muy cierto

[@lmlmd2714]

But Teruel still doesn't exist ;)

[@Dani_922]

Canarias igual

[@antoniong1449]

A Portuguese guy: "How does Spain actually work?" A Spanish guy: "Now seriously, how does Spain actually work?"

[@chavalomiguel5587]

Portugal doesn't work at all

[@demon_xd_]

In a similar manner to the HRE and USA: *it doesn’t* It’s better to think about it as a tensegrity statue (it wants to collapse, but tension won’t allow it) rather than a country

[@shonenjumpmagneto]

Im wondering how Portugal works

[@juanausensi499]

Basically every region in Spain thinks they will do very bad on their own. Pessimism unites us all.

[@trollinape2697]

@@juanausensi499 HAJAJAJAJ fr, la union europa han dejado claro a cataluña de que ellos nunca seran parte de la union si se independizen de españa

[@ndrw7311]

Just a fact: Andalusian is only a dialect of Castillian Spanish, not a language itself! And as it is mentioned in the video, all the autonomous communities that have independent movements do have other flag proposals (look for Andalusia's "arbonaida" for instance). This is such an interesting topic and a great video! Thank you for talking about it!

[@General.Knowledge]

I didn't know that! Thanks

[@theforeigner5821]

@@General.Knowledge From what I've heard is that a lot of the dialects of spain used to be considered different languages but over time in the cities castilian spanish overwhelmed the regional languages. Its apparently still considered a language for rural people kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioDEk2CjbK-LkKs This video talks about this a lot better and I might be misremembering.

[@SergioTorres-rc6dv]

Just like castillian spanish is a dialect of spanish

[@Lau2856.]

Dialects and languages are relativ. Someone from Berlin would undestand the same ammount of words when speaking to someone from the Netherlands as when speaking to me, an Austrian.

[@ndrw7311]

@@General.Knowledge Thank you for making such interesting videos!

[@simplynotedible]

"What if the Vatican broke up into 143 independent countries?"

[@bharatbharat3535]

World will become easy to live.

[@Seathal]

You'd have to cross 43 border checkpoints for salt.

[@henfer7687]

there would be 10 inhabitants per countrie

[@dagothur2666]

No

[@timmmahhhh]

@@henfer7687 you're being generous!

[@Maximmuss_]

Galicia can make a Union with the former province of Galicia in Poland, and create the Polish-Spanish Commonwealth

[@Xamdios]

Hahhaha,Lewandoski and Iago Aspas in the Eurocup

[@alexnavarro6941]

And make an alliance with the celtic nations like Ireland.

[@metacosmos]

much more natural to unite with the celts of ireland.

[@giogio51592]

galicia-galician commonwealth, lesgoooooooo

[@mrcomediante]

cabralandia se alzará

[@SupremeLeaderyt]

alternate title : what if spain pulled a "balkan" .

[@charlesjakesamadan4008]

They just pulled A Yugoslavia

[@Insert-thing-here-Fan]

What if iberia was balkan

[@wildermann9]

@@Insert-thing-here-Fan lol

[@Epsi_Cron]

They just pulled A South America

[@kaliyuga1476]

They want to balkanize the península

[@diogorodrigues747]

Spain: *brokes out* Portugal: Everything like in the "old days".

[@NibanoTransmontano]

@@jotascript03 and Olivença and the canary islands

[@RuiSilva-rw6vl]

@@NibanoTransmontano and Ceuta? They haven't even had time to change the flag yet...

[@NibanoTransmontano]

Yeah but não quero ter problemas de emigração com os marroquinos

[@dapperjuggler93]

Oh well time to create the 5th empire

[@josebosua1489]

Why does Portugal wants to get our little Galicia 😢

[@Hyugadani]

Bueno, quizas con 17 paises + Portugal quizas algun pais Iberico ganaria Eurovision...

[@catnivoras8805]

Ni con esas

[@robborrob]

no❤️

[@juann1492]

No creo

[@GlennWolfschoon]

Portugal ya ganó

[@Hyugadani]

@@GlennWolfschoon era para disimular ¬¬

[@yanbern2069]

Spain also has a huge problem with its underground economy, the regions with lower GDP and lower salaries usually avoid legally hiring (because you can't pay the same amount of taxes as in Madrid or Catalonia), that's why some of the statistics are somewhat inaccurate.

[@somethung8188]

Same thing in Italy.

[@guillemmoreno5522]

Madrid has the lowest taxes in all of Spain.

[@pacolopezmontanet6946]

*andalusia entered the chat*

[@Javislaterlp]

This is quite accurate but Asturias and Cantabria would probably unite with Leon instead of Basque country and Navarra

[@germangarcia6118]

A cantabric union would be nice, but I'm pretty sure basques wouldn't want to be part of any

[@anartzbm2140]

i agree, he forgot to mention the hdi which would be the main reason why they wouldn't join, basque country would lost a lot of money

[@Joridiy]

​@@germangarcia6118 Basque Country and Galician separatism have build all their identities in "look how perfect would i look being alone" so no matter what, they'd stay alone. Catalonia, on the other side, always brag in how perfect would be to be alone… yet they're so obviously obsessed with colonize Valencia, Balears and Aragon (at least half of it), so whenever the chance of unifying appeared, they'd tackle it down and force themselves in the head. The rest would just don't know what to do, i feel pity of Extremadura

[@strongninjagaming9210]

Since when you look at a spanish lingual map, only a small portion of Leon actually speaks Asturian, so MAYBE they could unite with Leon, but i think simply the two becoming a small country seems equally likely

[@pplord3170]

Portugal's true goal, annex Gallica

[@paranodrum9171]

Galicia's hidden goal: Reannex Portugal

[@ap6480]

@@paranodrum9171 *annex

[@pedrorequio5515]

Olivença

[@alanatkinsonaudije2706]

No no, Portugal haven't a goal of annex Galicia, but Galicia has a goal aganist Portugal

[@rebeccacummings6697]

@@ap6480 *reannex

[@ImSergiFire]

0:26 "How does Spain actually work?" Me, a Spaniard: it doesn't

[@teamavocado9814]

Lol

[@nachocehache1]

It still stands up, so somewhat, it's still working... Yet 🤣

[@aitorclebs8777]

Facts

[@nilxargay6341]

Very true

[@n4n4sh1_]

Vamos tirando jaja

[@AdriRandin]

fun fact: in 4:07 you say Ceuta and Melilla to be "re-incorporated" to Morocco. They never were part of Morocco. Cheers

[@schma9lo189]

Spain itself was part of Morocco for a while, amigo

[@schma9lo189]

@Cat One Morocco was part of France. Spain was given the mountains so it stops bitching. And this lasted only 43 years. On the other side, Tariq Bnou Ziyad invaded in 711 and the Almohad empire fell in the 1230s, and Granada lasted 260 years later. Thats between 520 and 680 years of colonization, amigo. You can't compare lions and sheeps.

[@jav1843]

@@schma9lo189 amigo,that wasn't even morroco,by 711 Morocco wasn't even a concept and It was just a province more of the Umayyads,saying Morocco conquered Spain in 711 is like saying that the polish almost conquered Rusia in 1941 because by the time the germans invaded the URSS, poland was just a small territory of the german reich,same with Morocco being a small territory in the Umayyads by the time they invaded the peninsula

[@pabloramal9329]

@@schma9lo189 spain was never part of morocco

[@ivanevilfirerock2519]

@@schma9lo189 Are you on pot again? lol

[@joliebonett6938]

'What if Spain Broke Up?' Every Hoi4 Mod: Sounds normal to me.

[@jorgea5426]

17-sided Spanish civil war

[@Brixcrafter1]

What if World broke into a thousand Trillion independent states????????

[@theskiypdee]

70 way civil war moment

[@BOIZADAS]

@@Brixcrafter1 salty

[@elmochomo8218]

I hope Spain breaks up

[@Albent]

Andalusian is as much as a language as "American English".

[@gonzalo_rosae]

yeah kinda

[@SrMikicas]

Depending on the place on Andalusia. It can be "American English" To "Australian English" but yeah, as a Spanish and Andalusian I have to say you are correct.

[@Albent]

@@SrMikicas Yeah, I meant "American English" as in it's like 99.9% understable to any Spanish speaker. I think Jamaican English is way harder to understand to English speakers than Andalusian is to Spanish speakers.

[@SrMikicas]

@@Albent Yeah, Galicia Language/dialet is more like Jamaican English, you almost totally understand it but it is almost another language from Spain, Catalan is more different and even though you can understand because it still has so many words similar or same as Spanish is another Latin language with lots of Spanish influence, and Basque country "Euskera" Is soo different that it is one of the few languages that come from a Pre-indoeuropean language, not Latin or nothing like it.

[@Albent]

@@SrMikicas I know, I'm like 50% Galician (both maternal grandparents) and I have a Basque surname jaja. Galician is without a doubt a language, not a dialect. And Catalonian is a much more hard to understand, like it's a halfway between Spanish and French.

[@EzRida04]

Well the Eurovision song contest would be *EVEN LONGER* I can tell you that.

[@BR-ub2lc]

😂

[@occono3543]

@@Eddi.M. The spokespersons would take 2 hours to get through.

[@shironeko1843]

Greetings from Spain! Also, it was funny, I didn't know the different political parties had those names in English. An interesting video, indeed.

[@olympus4628]

Greets from SPQR 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵

[@alwarado]

The ERC's name in english just feels wrong

[@caim3465]

Ur cute

[@daniellopez-moya4648]

Teruel existe 😂😂😂

[@itssparky2224]

No son tan diferentes en términos de pronunciación

[@inzlt8142]

It would be interesting to see “what if the us broke up?”

[@tilahunmitiku852]

us unfriends csa and cali

[@crimsonflood1643]

the world would be a better place

[@RK-cj4oc]

@@crimsonflood1643 No Rodriguez. It would not. The is the most peaceful superpower this earth has seen since its history. Sure there are still conflicts. But for a superpower they are damn amazing. Better than any alternatives.

[@RenegadeShepard69]

@R K lmao that was a good joke. I'm assuming it's a joke.

[@RK-cj4oc]

@@RenegadeShepard69 If you are out of touch with history and reality, sure it is, just for you buddy.

[@sho3003]

Spaniards if Spain broke apart: ¡Me cago en todooo! ¡No me lo creo!

[@MalaysiaIsProChannel]

What should that mean?

[@afonsoguedes6108]

@@MalaysiaIsProChannel ''I shat all over myself'' meaning that they are scared (like all spaniards xd) and ''I can't belive it''

[@paranodrum9171]

@@MalaysiaIsProChannel "Fuck everything! I can't believe it!" (literally "I shit on everything" but it's an expression)

[@NibanoTransmontano]

Cagas-te todo ? Kkkkkkkkkkk

[@Francisco.Carlos]

@@NibanoTransmontano É espanhol...

[@bread2546]

brain: Greater Portugal reintegrates their Galician kinsmen bigbrain: Portugal conquers all of Iberia and forms Lusitania.

[@MGdelOeste]

And Mérida becomes the country's capital again

[@Ulises096]

Jajaja Albacete conquers Europe

[@ArturoRodriguez-kx2us]

Portugal Will form Hispania.

[@smg7386]

They will find people of Spain helping

[@SuperCacazinho]

Gigantic brain: Brazil conquers Iberia and forms Nova Lusitania

[@NoFaithNoGlory]

"What if Spain broke up?" -Catalonians and basque: *hard party* -Inner land territories: outrageous -Andalusians and Murcians: you know what?... now that you mention it...

[@Gloriaimperial1]

Alaska: I want to manage my own oil California: We are the fifth largest economy in the world Alabama: I am a Confederate. New Mexico: I am Mexico. Vermont and New Orleans: I'm French ...

[@DJViviMIX]

Galicians: Se chove, que chova

[@I_hu85ghjo]

"What if spain broke up" Portugal and the Moors: *observe carefully*

[@davidprimo8236]

"Andalusian" is not a language. It's, actually, two dialect groups (western and eastern) of southern Spanish but we refer to their Spanish as Andalusian because it sounds different from the Spanish of Old Castille (Castillian) or La Mancha (Manchego). Using the local/regional endoglothonim is quite common in Spain but we all are aware they speak Spanish. The most spoken languange in Spain after Spanish is Catalan-Valencian (~4M natives), followed by Galician (~2M natives), which is part of the Portuguese Linguistic System. I don't understand the table you put in the video, it's very weird almost a "nonsense".

[@P48L1N]

General Knowledge: "How does Spain actually works?" Me, a spaniard: It doesn't. Also, it's more likely that Asturias, Cantabria and La Rioja will join Castilla y León as a country, Galicia joins Portugal (or by themselves), the Basque Country will join Navarre and nobody else, and Andalusia will have the administration of Ceuta and Melilla. Murcia is more likely to join the "Aragonese Republic" than Andalusia. And Extremadura will join Castilla la Mancha and Madrid. As a spaniard, this configuration makes more sense to me, because the cultures and rivalries between regions.

[@marcosmartin8328]

I don't think Extremadura will join Madrid. Sorry but we love more Portugal and Andalucía than Madrid.

[@P48L1N]

@@marcosmartin8328 I'm sorry, I didn't count with the "madrileño factor" xDD

[@droisi4288]

Por tradición histórica Murcia se uniría a castilla, antes del 78 estaba unida a Albacete, sobra decir que las dos castillas se unificarían, en teoría Valencia, Baleares y Cataluña se unificaría pero no veo a los Valencianos muy por la labor, Extremadura me pega más con Andalucia pero dudo con Castilla y Asturias me pasa lo mismo, dudo entre Galicia y Castilla. La rioja y cantabría claramente Castilla. Canarías por su cuenta

[@droisi4288]

@@adriancampos8640 ya pienso lo mismo, pero si Cabo Verde es un pais independiente Canarias podría llegar a serlo.

[@adriancampos8640]

@@droisi4288 Pero Cabo Verde tenía petróleo, no?

[@thatrandomportugueseperson2162]

This will be interesting also portuguese here :)(omg I've never had so many likes thx)

[@shawnv123]

galicia is part of spain

[@maluti1921]

"What if France broke up", including the possibilities of a unified Baskland and Catalonia.

[@Remonlore]

now i want to know what if china or India broke up.

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@Remonlore But in France there are 15 regional languages. In Italy 10. In Spain 5. When France made the French Revolution, an era of inevitable revolutions began throughout Europe, which bloodied the 19th century. The absolutist monarchies tried to prevent it, but could not. If a region becomes independent in Europe, we are all going to have the same problems in the short or medium term. Better to respect all borders and build a strong Europe.

[@SR-jr5nh]

@@Gloriaimperial1 In Spain there are 7/8 languages. The 5 ones are just the ones that have a official recognition in the institutions. France don't have them in the institution like that nor the educational system, look at the basque language there

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@SR-jr5nh Then France will have a pressure cooker, in Corsica, and soon in the Basque and Catalan lands in France, or German in Alsace and Lorraine.

[@nolanrichoux3538]

@@Gloriaimperial1 As a frenchman who lived in Britanny and Alsace before moving to Paris, I can swear to you that no, neither of them would go. Firstly, because of money. Corsica would literally kill themselves if they even tried to go for independance, and Italy (only other country to really have a right to those lands) already stated they would refuse. As for Britanny, they could sustain themselves if, for example, they allied with Ireland as celtic nations, but in truth, no young adult Briton (I include myself) wishes for independence. We are French. And Alsace Lorraine is the most impossible for me. The EU would never accept it, and neither would the inhabitants. They are, compared to other regions, the most worried of Germany's increase in power. Because of History. Even after the reannexation, those people always believed themselves as french. Thanks for comming to my TEDtalk.

[@Rappini_]

Spain: Broke Up Portugal:finally,time to Portugal Master Plan *portugal annex Galicia*

[@Gloriaimperial1]

So the Azores and Madeira ask for independence, like the Canary Islands, if Spain breaks down.

[@mbiga1978]

@@Gloriaimperial1 Nice with copy/paste , LOL They dont break because they are "PORTUGUESE".

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@mbiga1978 I don't want Portugal or Spain to break down. Galicia is Spain. If Spain ever breaks down (although it will last 15,000 more years) Madeira, Azores, Corsica or the Frisian islands in Holland will ask for independence, sooner or later. Cape Verde and São Tomé and Príncipe were also Portuguese.

[@suRGEangl]

@@Gloriaimperial1 no they won't, because portuguese is a single culture and there isn't a divide through the country or islands, unlike in Spain

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@suRGEangl Unlike Spain, France, Italy, United Kingdom, United States, Russia, China, Romania, India, Belgium, Mexico, Nigeria ... and 100 other countries. All medium or large countries have diversity. Spain has 5 regional languages. France 15 regional languages. Italy 10. Russia more than 100 .... Is little Portugal unicellular? If Spain, hypothetically, ever broke down, the Canary Islands would be independent, like Cape Verde and São Tomé and Príncipe. How long would it take Madeira and Azores to say: "I love Portugal very much, and I speak Portuguese, but I want to be like Cape Verde?"

[@c2rdavid]

I've always wondered about this, thanks for the video!

[@olympus4628]

🥳🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶

[@General.Knowledge]

Thank you for watching! :)

[@mikelx191]

only portuguese do, its hard to be the shadow of spain

[@davideoshace]

Andalusian is normally considered a Spanish dialect more than a different language

[@grubhubdad9474]

And it is,in Andalusia we have diferent andalusian dialects,but all of them are spanish.Hola,from Andalusia

[@davideoshace]

@@grubhubdad9474 I know, I am andalusian too. But I was trying to be polite because some people claims it is a language.

[@manuam98]

Si sois los dos andaluces qué hacéis hablando en inglés?? 😂😂😂

[@grubhubdad9474]

@@manuam98 Para ser internacionales 😎

[@pepitogrillo3368]

Because It’s a dialect

[@jeffhask367]

“Another big issue would be that whether they would remain a monarchy, or become a republic”. Shows the symbol of the Galactic Republic

[@nilxargay6341]

Catalonia recently launched it's first own satellite (even before Spain itself), so a Catalan Galactic Republic is always possible.

[@miikapekk5155]

My father was Valencian, one irritation I hated the most while growing up in England was always constantly being told I was pronouncing Alacant(Alicante) wrong by English. " I'm going to Valencia again this summer to see my gran, we arriving in Alicant\Alacant" then you would get idiots correcting me " It's called Ali-caantee" . Then you would try to explain that your Valencian father and family pronounced it as Alacant. When you're a kid you just know what you've heard. They would insist it was wrong, at one time descending into argument saying Valencian isn't a language it's just Spanish. Also using Alacant as a derogatory word. This is why people seek independence when everyone doesn't want to recognise your language and trample all over it's identity.

[@ericktellez7632]

The language, Spanish, is know as Castellaño as well

[@miikapekk5155]

@@ericktellez7632 Don't you mean Mexican? Just joking . Yes I know a Welsh person that also said they also have the same irritation of being corrected in their own country by Englishmen.

[@Seathal]

It's Alacant in Catalan and Valencian (dialect of Catalan) and Alicante in Spanish. People who told you Alacant was bad are morons. In the 40s-60s Franco moved a lot of people from rural regions (Murcia and Castilla la Mancha) to Alicante through subsidies and incentives in order to de-catalan/valencianize it culturally speaking. For long all languages that weren't Spanish were outlawed or diminished by the central regime, spreading the notion they were rural, regional and low-IQ. Now 80% of the people living in Alicante, Elche and other similar cities in southern Valencia are Murcians, Castillans or their direct descendants and don't speak catalan or valencian nor are interested in doing that, which is a huge ass shame as it dilutes the place's cultural and linguistical heterogeneity. My ex was from Alacant and knew and spoke catalan, she moved to Barcelona and met me. When I visited Alacant with her we could speak catalan freely without noone understanding us. Noone except an elderly woman in a pharmacy whose eyes started shining bright when she heard us because she remembered a time where that happened more often than not, kept us talking in catalan/valencian for 30 minutes before letting us go. I've had similar experiences in Perpignan, southern France, where Catalan is still used albeit residually.

[@miikapekk5155]

@@Seathal I never knew full story about what happened to Alacant that makes sense now. Yes my father's family were from La Safor a few miles north, where the old people very much still speak Valencian Catalan. Sadly it's becoming rare.

[@carlesroig3372]

@@miikapekk5155 Hi! I'm from La Safor. We're actually one of the Catalan-speaking 'regions' were Catalan is most spoken as a first language per capita. Even more so than some places in Catalunya. Catalan is pretty much overwhelmingly the main language here and in the sorrounding 'shires' except for bigger towns and German/British/Russian colonies. Glad to see you remember your origins and honour the true historical name of Alacant. Thank you!

[@alareov]

as you comment on the video about the independent flags, in Galiza we have two different models apart from the official one. One is called the Estreleira, more political, nacionalist and pro-independence. The other one was designed by Alfonso D. R. Castelao, one of the most influential galician writers, and it has a mermaid with a shield in which is written "before dead than slaves" (denantes mortos que escravos) very good video!

[@santigallodelabesa3138]

España es el país más fuerte del mundo, los españoles llevan siglos intentado destruirlo y no lo han conseguido. Frase atribuida a Otto von Bismarck

[@NibanoTransmontano]

Olha a Catalunha

[@bladehea]

Se calhar até e verdade. Se os próprios espanhóis não conseguem dividir Espanha quanto mais os outros

[@gerson2740]

Sin ofender, pero la frase me parece muy graciosa 😂😂

[@jmgarca355]

😂😂 cuánta razón tiene el tío Otto..👏👏 este hombre tuvo un pensamiento muy acertado.

[@ferrenberg]

I was thinking about this a few days ago. I see so many different flags and languages in Spain, people not really identified with what Spain is or should be. In my opinion the fact that Spain still exists to this day as it is it's a miracle

[@sergioponce7464]

You should search information about the first Spanish Republic. You won't believe it hahaha

[@lorenos]

Not sure why you say people do not identify with Spain. What people do you mean? Spain as a unified country has more years and history than most European countries. And having different languages is no issue, that is quite common in Europe, almost any region had at least originally its own language. Countries like France, Germany, Netherlands etc though impose one language over the others, making them almost extinct. However in Spain the conservation of its languages has been more active except in a few times. So having different languages is part of being Spanish, something to be proud of

[@ferrenberg]

@@lorenos I was watching a youth tournament this weekend, I've seen Andalusian, Basque, Valencian, Galician and Catalan flags in the crowd, also some flags with Arabic, Catalan and Euskara mottos written in them. I didn't see any Madrid flag when madrileño teams played, but I've seen the Spanish flag. That's why I was thinking how miraculous is the fact that Spain exists to this day. I believe your separatist movements and overall regional identity have a huge influence on people's lives. I'm Brazilian, and although we also have our regional flags, almost everyone in the country uses the Brazilian flag to show who they are, despite the fact that Brazil could easily become 20 different countries based on regional identities

[@ferrenberg]

@@sergioponce7464 I know some stuff about the political movements that happened in Spain since the 1800s, which makes me wonder how the country (not considering lost overseas territories) still exists, it's really fascinating/disturbing

[@lorenos]

@@ferrenberg I live in Andalucía, people are proud here of their Andalucían identity, but 99% of people here feel Spanish to the root. I understand this is quite shocking to foreigners, but it is like that. In Galicia the most voted party since decades is PP, a deep rooted Spanish party. That is not in opposition to feel galician. Same goes for Valencia. In the last 20 years Valencia became the official venue for the national football team matches, and the stadium is always full to the top. In Catalonia it is true that it might be nowadays somehow different, still vote by vote, independentist parties do not reach 50%. Furthermore, in the 80s support for independence there was around only 20%. Madrid is different, the comunidad de Madrid is not historical, it never existed, it was created in the 70s, that region before belonged to Castilla, always. That is why people there do not have a sense of historical belonging to Madrid, so to speak. There is a fact easily visible, Spaniards within Spain show their local sentiment, their flags, proudly, but when going abroad they gather together and speak proudly as Spaniards, not as an andalucian, asturian, or whatever. I am not saying things may not change, nothing last forever in human history, but Spain has been a united, strong country for 500 years, with its languages, cultures and customs. But to be honest, at the end of the day we are pretty much similar, you recognize a Spaniard from miles away. Most European countries are not that old. So if Spain will break apart some day, will not be due to its different languages and flags, cause it has been already united for centuries with all those things

[@anotherone.]

Dang...you can just hear his Portuguese accent by hearing the way he says "Navarre" (Navarhh) and "La Rioja" (La Hioha) this is because R is sometimes an H in Portuguese

[@stagedeer2552]

I am spanish and I never heard of that thing you called Murcia

[@enderdrow8844]

Bruh, I just noticed that the flag of Ceuta is basically Portuguese national flag + some municipal Portuguese flags

[@olympus4628]

Some

[@enderdrow8844]

@No One yeah I know, I just didn’t know the flag

[@ushikiii]

@No One long Portugal.

[@bilbohob7179]

@No One not really. It was portuguese, yes. Then became the Iberian Union then Portugal made the Restauration. Ceuta can choose between Spain or Portugal and choose Spain. They has chosen, their decision

[@Alexandre-ur7qb]

flag of Lisbon

[@alexnavarro6941]

You nailed with the intro. Like a federation without federalism. It's curious how in English some names are written like in Spanish (León, Valencia, Extremadura...), but others have English variations (Navarra, Andalucía, Castilla...)

[@TomKroupa80]

The break up of Spain would end La Vuelta España. And that would be the real tragedy!!! :-)

[@alwarado]

No more football league

[@martimoleraijaner8010]

La vuelta iberica y liga iberica (bum problema solucionado)

[@afonsoguedes6108]

2:35, tell me you want to be Portugal, without actually telling me you want to be Portugal

[@David-Pla]

That's exactly what Ceuta did...

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@David-Pla Ceuta didn't do that. The city was sold because it was unprofitable.

[@NibanoTransmontano]

@@diogorodrigues747 but Olivença is Portugal caralho

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@NibanoTransmontano Olivença não foi chamada para esta conversa, até porque Ceuta e Olivença estão a mais de 500 km de distância entre si.

[@9lwa-]

@@diogorodrigues747 no the city became Spanish because of the Iberian union

[@martinezalegredirector]

I’m Spanish and this is a GREAT video.

[@thesurvivor75Ejercito]

Es una basura con datos anticuados y de habla inglesa, datos de notable escasa calidad personal saludos desde donde no hablamos español

[@silas823]

@@thesurvivor75Ejercito Me da toda la sensación de que solo le estabas dando a las palabras sugeridas del teclado, por eso te ha quedado tal sinsentido.

[@migasaugusto224]

It's interesting that Ceuta uses Portugal's coat of arms on their flag, taking back to when Portugal ruled Ceuta.

[@nomecreona3829]

Spain has always been diverse, all conflicts and civil wars have always been motivated by trying to unify and homogenize them. In fact, the Spanish empire was torn to pieces when the Bourbons won the Spanish War of Succession and tried to imitate the French centralist model. Spain has only one viable solution, or it will stay united in diversity or it will break into pieces.

[@elharvey5032]

You mean unity through Nationality? Because Spain has different ethnic groups yet they're all native to Iberia that was the purpose of Spain

[@nomecreona3829]

​@@elharvey5032 Exactly, Spain worked well as a union of nations, even the Spanish empire was divided into Viceroyalties in America, which had their own autonomy. That is why we say that Spain did not have colonies in America, they were all territories of Spain with the same rights but with their own autonomy. The Spanish empire was not destroyed by external powers, as it has been falsely shown in the history written by the Anglo-Saxons, the Spanish empire destroyed itself when the Bourbon reforms tried to unify and centralize power. All the conflicts and civil wars that continue to this day are due to the same cause. Unfortunately there are still many Spaniards, who vote for parties like VOX, who still do not understand it.

[@elharvey5032]

@@nomecreona3829 Aren't most Spanish voting for Vox because they're Anti Mass migration, since the EU basically allows anyone to enter

[@nomecreona3829]

@@elharvey5032 Vox has repeated many times that the current government is the worst in 80 years, that clearly implies that they prefer the government of the Franco dictatorship, one of its members has even been president of the Francisco Franco Association, which is something like the Holocaust deniers but applied to Spain. Not only are they anti-immigration, they also want to suppress the autonomous communities to return to a centralist state and call almost all Basque and Catalan representatives terrorists. So you can get an idea of what kind of political formation we are talking about. Far-right radicals, which includes former members of neo-Nazi groups, supporters of Franco and groups close to fascism. If they have gone up in votes, it is because they have used the same advisers as Trump. You know, Goebblelian propaganda, massive spread of lies on the internet, easy slogans, populism, etc.

[@nomecreona3829]

@@elharvey5032 Most Spanish don't vote for Vox, it is still a minority party but with a significant 15% of the vote. But that does not mean that all its voters are radical, some simply believe many of their populist lies, as happened with the Brexiters.

[@gonzalosanchez1538]

"De Santander a Puertollano todo es campo castellano" is a phrase used by "castellanistas" (supporters of an united Castille) which basically aims to the reunion of what nowadays is Cantabria, La Rioja, Castilla y León, Madrid y Castilla-La Mancha. So if Spain broke apart, these Autonomies would likely be merged together so as not to be very small (tho the region of León could maybe join Asturias and Extremadura could join this new Castille)

[@cristianpg3612]

Sabes de sobra que León no va con Castilla ni a coger duros 😂

[@cobytang]

"What If Spain Broke Up?" By a Portuguese. Yeah, it's not personal at all LOL I promise

[@Gloriaimperial1]

Independent Canary Islands? I already see Azores and Madeida say: I want to be like the Canary Islands, Brazil and Angola

[@guilherme832]

@@Gloriaimperial1 there was one politician that actually tried to do it, in both archipelagos. But neither Azores nor Madeira could pull it off, speacially Madeira that gives more debt than profit to the mainland

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@guilherme832 I hope that no one understands that I want the independence of Madeira and the Azores. I say the same thing to some French people who think they are vaccinated because France is a centralist country, and they speculate on the unity of Spain. I tell you that this independence thing begins in Spain, Belgium, Scotland, Corsica or Quebec, and nobody knows where it will end, because politicians are mimetic, for better and for worse. And yearnings for independence that previously did not exist in any region, and external pressure groups, such as Russia and China, or multinational companies, may arise unexpectedly, creating a problem for you in any region. In Catalonia, the Russians and Georgos Soros are interested in a plan to destroy Europe. If they cannot with Catalonia, they will try elsewhere.

[@MasonGreenWeed]

And split mainland Portugal to Algarve and Portugal

[@filipealves6602]

@@guilherme832 don't be so naive. Madeira has such big deficits precisely because the central government is there to finance their debt. If they went independent, they would have to make the necessary changes in their public finances to no longer have unsustainable deficits. This is all politics.

[@marcom6089]

I’m actually impressed with your video. Thank you for putting the disclaimer at the beginning and at the end. I personally wouldn’t want to see Spain broken up at all. I think, that the fact that it has such a wonderful diversity within its borders makes it even better. It reminds me of the U.S.A. In such that it’s got such huge regional differences. I live in the Pacific Northwest of the country and we do not like being compared to any other part of the country. As a matter of fact we in Oregon and Washington have more in common with British Columbia, Canada than we do with the rest of the U.S. We even have a flag that represents us in Cascadia. It’s called the Doug flag or Cascadian flag. This flag is more about the love of living communities in our bioregion. That said, I am a proud American and couldn’t see us apart from the rest of the country. And although a lot of us like the idea of a Cascadia Republic, it’s just that; an idea. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side...

[@shorewall]

Yep. I think Federalism allows regions to be distinct. Independence doesn't make things better, it makes them worse. You are smaller, less economy and military, a pushover for others. Calls for independence have a reason, just find it and address it.

[@googlemexico8759]

@@shorewall South Sudan is the greatest example...

[@RenegadeShepard69]

@Google Mexico you should Google South Sudan Mr Google Mexico lol. When the East African Federation is formed South Sudan will join it and it will end up being better for them than being with their culturally hostile northern neighbor Sudan. It's all a part of approximating South Sudan to the EAF block, I don't think this truly small and difficult to grow and work work country would want to be alone in the world like that, that'd be terrible for them indeed!

[@Marlonxx_]

General knowledge: what if spain broke up? Me: what if china broke up?

[@wildermann9]

China has before and will again.

[@seanbrummfield448]

@@wildermann9 No denying it there. They've had the most collapses than any other country in history.

[@guilherme832]

@@seanbrummfield448 they are also one of the oldest nations, they had enough time to get that record

[@andriwahyudani1302]

Probably will broke up in 200-400 years again. For 100 years ahead, they'll still be here

[@hmmm3210]

Independent east Turkestan , independent Tibet , Mongolia takes inner Mongolia , the rest of China can do whatever they want .

[@KogaInTheMoon]

The suggested merge of territories gave me a shock. I mean, the logical unions wouldn't be like that, it would be like: Castilla: Castilla La Mancha, Madrid, 6/9 of Castilla y León, La Rioja, Cantabria and maybe parts of Extremadura Portugal: Portugal and Galicia Asturias/León as a Two-state confederation: Asturias + 3/9 of Castilla y León and the northern half of Extremadura (and maybe the Miranda do Douro/Tras-os-Montes chunk of Portugal?) Euskadi: Basque Country, Navarra and the Iparralde region Aragón Andalucia: Andalucía and maybe Ceuta and Melilla Canary Islands Catalonia and Aran: Catalonia, Balears, València, Andorra and Rosselló Murcia would be a difficult issue since it has influence on parts of Castilla La Mancha (Albacete) and Valencia (Alacant), but it could be a part of Castilla, since it's very attached

[@metacosmos]

almeria doesn't want to be part of Andalucia, nor Leon of Castille.

[@MGdelOeste]

Southern Cáceres has nothing to do with León province, let alone Asturias.

[@limonynada007]

There are independence flags as well in other regions as in Galicia with a red star in the middle

[@yannickdrmda5295]

There would probably be huge consequences in France which has a French Basque Country and a French Catalunya (Roussillon). There are small reunification movements in these territories and independant Basque Country/Catalunya would probably have a fever of irredentism regarding their "lost" territories to France.

[@gamermapper]

Based. Perpinyà is Catalunya!

[@gnzalomras7012]

I've been waiting this video for -literally - years

[@TheGabrielPT]

Portuguese here... If Galicia wants to join Portugal that's fine by me 😈👀

[@dxartx79]

Fine by me too

[@enderdrow8844]

General Knowledge is also Portuguese

[@josueveguilla9069]

Nope.

[@afonsoguedes6108]

This sounds awfully naughty, but yes please 😈

[@fernandoroberts3591]

🤡🤡 azideia alekk vo pega minha marretaaaakk

[@mainsmain]

*Galicia breaks away from Spain* Portugal: You could not live with your own failure. Where did it bring you? Back to me

[@ivanmacias9603]

Except it was Portugal who broke away from Galicia and not the other way around.

[@mbiga1978]

"Dear older brother, you can live with me now" more like this.

[@chupameusculh0es493]

Lovely

[@silviaballesteros8390]

😂😂 Galicia ❤️🇵🇹

[@Erased_UnityXDX]

It would make sense if it wasnt because it was Galicia who had Portugal

[@ushikiii]

I would be sad and I am not even Spanish.

[@manoloesdios]

Bruh

[@viniciusteixeira6736]

“I like that Spain exists” Are you sure you’re a Portuguese?

[@afwhite888]

Of course he is, if Spain didnt exist who would be the butt of our jokes?

[@NotAFederalAgent-]

@@afwhite888 brazil

[@ushikiii]

Do Portuguese dislike Spain? That's sad to hear :c

[@pedromedeiros1186]

@@ushikiii More like love/hate

[@vitorjpereira2547]

@@ushikiii sad?? why??

[@goncalocarrapico7942]

By the way, you said “ ... while Extremadura and Valencia have the highest at 80.” It’s not Valencia but Murcia*** 😅

[@jcr5083]

10:03 - I wouldn't say Andalusian (Andaluz) is a language different from Spanish but an accent instead

[@Innomenatus]

That's wrong. Andalusian has some sound correspondences with Spanish and Portugese (being a Romance language), but also has a Mozarabic and Arabic substratum.

[@gerson2740]

It's a dialect!

[@Innomenatus]

@@gerson2740 Dialect my ass. More closer than what the Chinese consider as "Dialects", but not close to be one in its own right.

[@polblanes]

A language is just a dialect that has been recognized as a language by its home nation. Anyone who tries to argue that in order for a dialect to become its own language there has to be certain amount of gramatical or phonetical divergence from it's parent language has no idea about linguistics. All variations of arabic are considered dialects, a morocco arabic speaker will not be able to understand many words an iraqi arabic speaker says. Meanwhile danish, norwegian ans swedish are all different languages but completely mutually intelligible. Go put your strict ideas somewhere else. Language is fluid, dialects are languages when their speakers believe so.

[@ulical]

@@Innomenatus Dude, my father was from the La Macarena neighborhood in Seville and a large part of my family still lives there. Andalusian is not even a dialect, it's an accent. All they do is use the same words used in Castilian Spanish and pronounce them in their own particular way in the manner that someone from Boston pronounces "Car" as "Cah" or "Park" as "Pahk".

[@awayfrog1725]

I could see this happening if Catalonia leaves because it could cause a domino effect over the entire country.

[@polishhussarmapping258]

True

[@2hotflavored666]

@Adrian Perez Mendez Not even close lmao, the Spanish military is pathetic.

[@olympus4628]

False

[@albert1814]

@INDIAN NIGGA “never”. Do you think that in 500 years Spain will still be Spain? Wow

[@SEELE-1946]

@Adrian Perez Mendez Greece and Poland stronger...? LOL

[@gonzalosanchez1538]

Fun fact: Castilla y León doesn't have a capital. It should, but it's location was never decided (probably in order not to create tension between the different regions) so the different institutions are distributed among the biggest cities.

[@ivanmacias9603]

@@saulgoodman292 no, eso es lo que se creen los pucelanos. Son tan capital de Castilla y León como de la Comunidad Valenciana o de Senegal.

[@gonzalosanchez1538]

@@saulgoodman292 No, de hecho se ha propuesto un par de veces que lo sea pero nunca se ha intentado porque el resto de provincias probablemente votaría en contra es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_de_Castilla_y_Le%C3%B3n

[@ARCPolus]

Valladolid no es la capital?

[@Alex-zs7gw]

@@ARCPolus ... Exactly what i thought . Either that, or i was lied to for a year by the madrileños 🤔

[@offguy9939]

AH YES , THE PORTUGUESE DREAM

[@itizjuan]

no

[@sebastiandomingos335]

Kinda, not really. You see it's a complicated relationship, we love Spain but then we hate Spain.

[@offguy9939]

@@sebastiandomingos335I am portuguese

[@sebastiandomingos335]

@@offguy9939 cool

[@chupameusculh0es493]

Very true

[@pausoldevilaarlandis991]

I've liked a lot the video, congratulations! But as a valencian, I need to correct you a big mistake: Every time you refer to 'Valencia' you are refering to the Valencian Community (Comunidad Valenciana in spanish or Comunitat Valenciana in valencian), which is the real name of the autonomous community. Valencia is just the name of one of the three provinces that constitute the Valencian Community, being the other two provinces Castellón and Alicante. Don't worry, this is also a very common mistake even inside Spain!!

[@Alejandro_Estevez]

As a Galician I am happy to join Portugal, be independent or remain Spanish

[@jabato9779]

You are not Galician. Nobody wants to join Portugal but many in Portugal would like to join Spain

[@Alejandro_Estevez]

@@jabato9779 You should see Galician reintegrationism

[@wonderwiseS2]

@@jabato9779 Are you drunk? We been fighting Castile since our independence just so we don't join Spain. We love the Spanish people but we are proud Lusitanos here.

[@jabato9779]

@@Alejandro_Estevez ¿Reintegración de qué? ¿Del reino suevo? Entonces el norte de Portugal pasaría a Galicia y, por tanto, a España.

[@jabato9779]

@@wonderwiseS2 30% of Portugueses twitter.com/electo_mania/status/1433457045466927105

[@Goldenblitzer]

This is just how Eu4 and CK2/3 players see Spain anyway....

[@yodanoord]

"How does Spain actually work?" spaniards: wait, it works?

[@GariSullivan]

I lived in Granada, Andalucía quite a few years ago. I was told by many people there that they see themselves in this order: 1st Andalucian 2nd Spanish 3rd European. The feeling that I got was that most people were happy with the level of autonomy their region had, as it grants them enough individuality and identity whilst still maintaining the protection and advantages of a strong nation (Spain)

[@Gloriaimperial1]

Totally. There were pro-independence parties in Andalusia, once upon a time, but they never got more than 3-4% of the vote, and they have disappeared. It's like Cornwall and England. Not even Wales (which does have its own language). Andalusia and Spain identify very well, especially abroad, with the same language, the same majority Catholic religion.

[@Colocho514]

Incredible work, merci beaucoup!

[@Lucsu25]

Dont give them ideas, DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS

[@thesurvivor75Ejercito]

@@jotascript03 You are the best Brazilian I have seen, keep being great, My Lord.

[@kenobi6257]

If Spain broke apart, Asturias wouldn't join Cantabria and the Basque Country but the historical region of León (the provinces of León, Zamora and Salamanca, and maybe even Northern Extremadura)

[@staticshockk]

Can you do this for Ethiopia next? Ethiopia has 9 regions that is devided be ethnicities and 2 chartared cities. It would be cool to see the what if senario while allowing your viewers to see our side of the world.

[@Seresnela]

I’m canarian and I wouldn’t like this to happen, we really depend on mainland Spain to survive here

[@Juanix17062]

Chicharrerooooo chicharrerrooo chicharrerrooo de corazoooooon❤️❤️

[@guidoylosfreaks]

Los adoptamos. ¿Quieren ser el estado número 33? 🇲🇽

[@elharvey5032]

Wouldn't you guys join a different country like Portugal or France? I know Morocco is definitely not an option

[@manuam98]

@@elharvey5032 If they got a chance they'd invaded the same way they are invading West Sahara

[@alinobunaga]

@@manuam98 unlike the moroccan sahara*,the canary islands were never ours.educate yourself before speaking nonsense.

[@rj5848]

If Spain broke up then it would be in pain

[@Gloriaimperial1]

England is a groin. In Spanish, the word "English", is inglés (much groins)

[@Brixcrafter1]

WhAt If EuRoPe BrOkE iNtO 1445673827482938478388883847779198264526630192 cOuNtRiEs? ? ?

[@vicentevidaal._946]

Spain will not broke up, never🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@lookatmeplease]

omg seriously did you even hear him at the start of the video

[@m000Theevilcow]

I'm Portuguese and find it very hard for Spain to break apart but at the same time, nothing stays the same forever.. nevertheless, the day that happens Spain wouldn´t be alone since many other countries have the same succession problems as Spain.

[@thesurvivor75Ejercito]

@Based 3Odat I AM ANDALUSIAN YOUR COMMENT IS FAKE ANDALUSIA IS SPANISH DA FUK,, that fake independent flag of Andalusia is communist and socialist movements representative and part of the 1910 era

[@kommentariios3852]

Nah Son of Franco .this will happen sooner or later..

[@kommentariios3852]

@Based 3Odat yeeeeessssss free Andalusia

[@coucoubrandy1079]

Next, the US. That would be very interesting

[@janvallstena2081]

If Catalonia became independent, the flag wouldn't be the estelada ( flag with the blue triangle ). The official flag would continue being the senyera ( without the blue triangle )

[@llucweinbrecht5255]

Perquè? No ho entec, l'estelada respresenta catalunya com a un estat, l'actual es de la comunitat autònoma, es com cuba, i puerto rico, també li van afegir l'estrella a la seva bandera per simbolitzar que són un estat independent.

[@aleserre3265]

@@llucweinbrecht5255 La bandera catalana es la senyera, la estelada sólo es la del movimiento independentista, entiendo que de todos modos habría algun tipo de consulta popular de cara a elegir la bandera

[@karlmarx2670]

@@llucweinbrecht5255 Perquè la senyera és la bandera històrica que porta representant Catalunya des dels comtes de Barcelona del segle XI

[@DonCristian_DPB]

@@llucweinbrecht5255 La estrella está incluida por puro capricho izquierda/socialista. Punto.

[@VP-mf8gi]

@@DonCristian_DPB No pas, com molt bé diu el nano al vídeo l'estrella ve de Cuba, sí, però no la d'ara, la de 1898, la que va aconseguir fotre el camp d'Espanya.

[@1986Richard]

I think Spain is beautiful because all of their communities. I don't see 17 new countries or 3 new. Its a stupid idea. Spain is Beauty and strong United. They have a nice culture with a lot of languages and a great common history. The breakup of spain or Italy, Greece, Germany, France, etc etc etc is totally absurd and brainless.

[@themechanictangerine]

Catalonia will eventually become independent.....for another 7 seconds 🤣

[@lordpayo7721]

Maybe this time they reach 8 seconds. Who knows 😜

[@guillencovarrubias3677]

Probably (as an Aragonese), Aragon will join one of the Castillas instead of joining with the Catalan speaking areas, because in Aragon we do not speak Catalan :)

[@jaumejoseoranies7948]

Aragon doesn't speak catalan mainly, but the catalan counties were proportionaly the catalan is more spoken are in Aragon Comunity (they haven't received so Spanish immigration).

[@polblanes]

I guess you only care about language...

[@otpascual471]

Well, if you see the history aragon would go with Catalonia valencia and balearic islands

[@ivanmacias9603]

As a Leonese, I have to warn you. Joining Castile would be the biggest mistake you could ever do.

[@obzy.1757]

@@otpascual471 yea, but nobody would join, valencia and aragon are now with low catalans, only balearics would maybe join

[@Fruitsmymainispomgranates]

So Spain is like the holy Roman empire

[@eesaubaydullah4231]

Yeah but smaller

[@tiomike7731]

Nah not really. I don't really a lot about how HRE worked, but I can say that every autonomous region isn't like different countries.

[@ELASMOSAURIO84]

Very interesting video, but as an extremadurian myself i doubt about an independent nation, most probably we would unite with the andalusian or the leonese, or hell even the portuguese with which we share very amicable relations.

[@greentuga691]

As a portuguese we would be delighted, if any of this would happen, and if some of you want to join us then it would be a dream. But it would be a severe economical downgrade for you, be advised. :c

[@SR-jr5nh]

@@greentuga691 As an andalusian you can keep Extremadura, and, the one with a downgrade would be Portugal not Extremadura xd

[@elporrovegano]

@@SR-jr5nh Te he visto en algún vídeo comentando 🤔🤔🤔

[@SR-jr5nh]

@@elporrovegano That's cringe :(

[@elporrovegano]

@@SR-jr5nh Jajajaja, lo siento. Es que me ha llamado la atención. Creo que fue en alguno de hispanistas xd

[@candyneige6609]

Now, let's do a "What if France left the EU, causing France to break apart ?".

[@archstanton6102]

Can you please make a video about if a Celtic united state was created. Approximately 7 celtic nations/regions currently.

[@General.Knowledge]

It's on my list!

[@archstanton6102]

@@General.Knowledge Many thanks.

[@se6369]

That's very, very unlikely to happen

[@archstanton6102]

@@se6369 it will never happen, but does not mean a quality video cannot be made based on "what if?"

[@archstanton6102]

@@-Aldandil- I hope he does. Galicia is one of the main 7.

[@barleskanball292]

The fact that General Knowlage used countryballs on the thumbnail Countryball drawers (like me) : ;)

[@fabriciofneves]

Am I the only one wondering what would happen to Spanish football?

[@thesurvivor75Ejercito]

Oh don't worry the same, Madrid vs Barcelona players in the club level in the nation level, well, maybe all the Catalonians players will be catalonians

[@myrmecologistjp9228]

Personally, I would see it making more sense that Ceuta and Melilla (and the other plazas de soberania) joined Andalucia given the locations and apparently it (wikipedia) says that the modern region of Ceuta is culturally similar to Andalucia, so I doubt they would join Morocco, and the only posible way I see Morocco controlling them is by a conflict.

[@SR-jr5nh]

As a andalusian I confirm this

[@grizwoldphantasia5005]

As an amused Yankee, it amuses me that Spain wants Gibralter back but won't surrender Its Moroccan cities. And Puerto Ricans can't make up their mind: 1/3 want to stay as is, 1/3 want to be a state, and 1/3 want independence. Politics in general amuses me, equal opportunity-like. Please don't flame me 😲

[@VictorLdVS]

@@grizwoldphantasia5005 the difference between Ceuta or Melilla compared to Gibraltar is that Ceuta and Melilla were NEVER Moroccan (just like the Canary islands or the western Sahara), however Gibraltar was Spanish land that the English illegally claimed

[@grizwoldphantasia5005]

@@VictorLdVS those two cities were as legally obtained as the Iberian peninsula was obtained from the Moors, or the United States was obtained from the natives.

[@VictorLdVS]

@@grizwoldphantasia5005 No. Spain did not conquer those lands. It was Portugal that conquered those lands during the "reconquest". Later, when the "Iberian union" separated, Spain kept Ceuta and Melilla. In addition, Northwest Africa has almost always been part of the Iberian Peninsula, from the time of Al-Andalus to the time of Hispania.

[@Depressugar]

As far as I'm concerned, Ceuta and Melilla never were part of Morocco, maybe just the territories but the cities, the people and the buildings were all either Spainish or Portuguese. And other thing. Both cities are "Spain Spain" they're not apart from Peninsular Spain.

[@ikad5229]

And they would probably be a part of Andalusia in the case the video proposes

[@ikad5229]

@@fgsaramago Do you know the meaning of the word colony? Why are they not recognize by the UN as colonies? Hmmm, let me think. Oh, because maybe they aren't?

[@ikad5229]

@@fgsaramago A piece of land with no self determination. That's not the case of Ceuta, nor Melilla. They are ethcnically Spanish, have the same rights as someone from Madrid or Sevilla and in the case of Ceuta, decided to stay with Spain after the separation of the Iberian Union (Ceuta was conquered by the Portuguese). Ceuta the city that has been controlled by the Iberian Peninsula for 2 millenia is Moroccan, yep sure. Ceuta was controlled by the Romans through Hispania, by the Visigoths, by the Caliphate of Cordoba and then only 200 years by the Almohads and Almoravids. Surely, a city that has been connected to the Iberian Peninsula 80% of its existence should be Moroccan. A city that was neither founded nor built by Muslims, that is not ethnically Berber, that his major religion is Catholicism, that they have voted for the far right Spanish party. Surely the city is Moroccan. So your point is? That is not Spain because is in Africa? Great point dude

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

I find it funny that Spain wants GIbraltar back but would never give their Moroccan land back.

[@ikad5229]

@@silverdeathgamer2907 Nobody with a brain wants Gibraltar back, only the far right. We understand that Gibraltarians are British and they want to remain that way.

[@lightghost6270]

Hey! I'm Spanish and I really enjoy the vid. Thank you entertaining me, I'll subscribe to the channel :)

[@PSTorres]

andalusian is not really a language, it’s just a way to talk (a dialect i mean). It has exactly same structure as spanish, it only varies pronunciation, some expressions and some words (but not all andalusia uses the same ones, each zone has its vocabulary).

[@scpfoundation4602]

Portugal: time to take my position

[@ssmufc9941]

Oohhh I love this concept! Do more of these please. I’d be particularly interested in Britain and India personally!

[@johnnyoak4894]

Funny how Ceuta has the portuguese shield 😂😂

[@engolukante6022]

The flag is cntrl C + cntrl V of the flag of Lisbon hahahaha

[@rugar1425]

I'm from Spain, i was expecting this video since the USA video, thanks for it, i just want to say that Spain it's as you say a country made of regions with a lot of history and identity, but dispite a few separatist movements the other regions don't want to be independents and they don't have that national identity, full Spain broke up would be so unlikely to happens. And that scenario it's not really legal, that's why the Catalonyan Referendum was ilegal and it will going to be if the constitutions don't change.

[@pedrorequio5515]

A friend of mine asked me what would happen if they actually enforced independence, I told him war, spoiler alert that would be the case almost certainly.

[@pedrorequio5515]

@@adriancampos8640 not even one of those in South America, or equatorial Guinea?

[@rugar1425]

@@pedrorequio5515 That's sadly true, but the situation could be solved pacefully i hope.

[@pedrorequio5515]

@@rugar1425 I am Portuguese, but I don't feel for them, it just not very good to have a divided Spain, it's just bad business.

[@ikad5229]

@@pedrorequio5515 Based Portuguese Chad. Obrigado irmão!

[@SamuelAndyPratamaSitohang]

When I firsr saw the title, I assumed it'll be just a lazy list video, listing all the autonomous communities as countries. I'm glad I was wrong, this video is quite interesting, exploring the stats like religions, economies etc. Good video

[@cocodrilo2568]

Fisirerr🥶🥶🥶🥶

[@juanitolopez9731]

If Spain broke up, Galicia would probably join Portugal. We share similar languages. Only the Portuguese accent sounds a bit harder, but the grammar is almost identical. Besides, back in the Middle Ages, both countries were united for a time. But we are part of Spain, and we must continue to be so. A breaking-up of the Spanish nation would be disastrous for most of its territories.

[@wonderwiseS2]

In Portugal we are told that Galicians don't speak their native language anymore and try to sound more Castillian, is that true?

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@wonderwiseS2 Of all the regional languages of Spain, Galician is the one that the rest of us Spaniards understand best, and the one that has the most Castilian accent. It is the most similar to Spanish. We understand everything. Curiously, almost all the leaders of the Spanish patriotic right in the 20th and 21st centuries were born in Galicia: Franco, Fraga, Rajoy, Feijoó (current). The independence movement in Galicia has 15% of the votes, and I don't even think they would change Lisbon for Madrid. It is more likely that the independence movements of the Azores and Madeira (which existed a few decades ago), and other parts of Europe, were reborn.

[@wonderwiseS2]

@@Gloriaimperial1 I never understood why some Gallicians and Portuguese say we should be together. Our King conquered to the south and not to the north. Me for example i was born in the south, i have nothing in common with a Gallician. You understand Galego well because it doesn't sound Galego anymore, the few people that speak it have a strong Spanish accent. Gallicians were conquered, we fought for our own independence. We are not the same people.

[@Gloriaimperial1]

@@wonderwiseS2 We understand well those differences between regions, within the Iberian Peninsula, as you say. And also the things we have in common, like Spanish and Portuguese, the same in 89% of the words. But at a global level, an idea of the Iberosphere is taking shape, promoted by Lula Da Silva and other leaders. Well, Lula wants to exclude Mexico and Central America, to be the leader of South America :) But at some point the Mexicans and Central Americans (200 million people) have to enter to be stronger. And Mozambique, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, Timor, and the 50 million Latinos in the United States (as an influence, not as a country)

[@soulvelazquez]

In my opinion, Navarre and the Basque Country would most likely form a new country due to their Basque heritage. There is a strong nationalist movement.

[@algar4643]

In Navarre, the surveys show over 70% people against joining the Basque country. Less than 10% people speak Basque as their mother tongue. There are areas like Ribera where Basque was never spoken. It is often forgotten that the majority language in the Middle Ages in Navarre was not Basque but Navarrese-Aragonese that was the language spoken (latin-derived) by the Navarrese monarchs. Separatist parties in Navarre have never surmounted 25% of the total vote. Despite the Basque nationalistic hype, most of the Navarrese keep maintaining their current status. In Spain, it is common to mistake personal views with the reality. To cap it all, the separatist sentiment in the Basque country, it has dwindled in the recent years. Euskal Herria has never existed as a political entity, and the territories claimed by Basque nationalism are not homogeneous both from a political and linguistic/ethnic point of view. It is more like a political fantasy despite nationalistic people's view spread by propaganda.

[@Comentarios488]

@@algar4643 Que exista La Rioja si que es una buena fantasía, vete a pasear con Franco anda!

[@algar4643]

@@Comentarios488 sacan a Franco de la tumba cuando no tienen argumentos, vete a pasear con Sabino Arana anda.

[@HibiTeamQueso]

@@algar4643 tú eres el que no ha hecho más que inventarse cosas 😂

[@pauc7111]

but one thing: andalusian is NOT a language, it's a group of dialects

[@oune.]

Ya

[@tuggaboy]

Exactly. There was an Andalusian language, centuries ago, and it was Arabic origin. I'm shocked that got to the final version of the video.

[@tiomike7731]

that's true how we speak in western Andalusia has nothing to do with east andalusia

[@pauc7111]

@@tuggaboy but its obvious that it is not in use in current times

[@justplainlyluis]

El andalûh çe dîttinge una mihita del câtteyano, por dêgraçia no tenemôh îttituçionê que lo defiendan. Mientrâh çigamôh çin yamâl-lo idioma propio, çegirá çiendo un dialêtto.

[@Vaati1992]

I think I have seen all your "What if X Broke Up?" videos and this is the first one where you put a disclaimer, or at least such a strongly-worded disclaimer. Then again I don't know if you ever featured a video like this for a country which has sizable separatist movements.

[@javiersamuel8172]

Otto von Bismarck: "The strongest nation in the world is Spain, without a doubt. They've always tried to destroy themselves and they've never got it. The day they stop doing it, they'll be the world's vanguard again"

[@leocr5734]

Galicia has a flag in case of its independence, although not official, it replaces the banner with a red star

[@ikeragarriye]

Well as a Spaniard I will tell you that it would be more complicated than that, I think the logic of breaking apart would be next (something that could happend like with former Yugoslavia): - Rioja and Cantabria (they use to be part of Old Castilla). Castilla León should split in two as in the past as Leon and Old Castilla. Castilla should absorbe Cantabria and La Rioja because of cultural similarities. - Old Castilla, Madrid and Castilla la Mancha should be together as Castilian Kingdom. Again because of their similarities (same language and culture Spanish language). - Leon and Asturias should maybe belong together (language and culture similarities again Asturleones language) - Galicia could join Portugal or Leon+Asturias (It makes more sense joining Portugal Galician and Portuguese languages are very similar). - Basque country has its identity from the old Navarra Kingdom. They should belong together because of cultural and language similarities Basque-Navarran language) They should anexe the French part of Pays Basque too. - Aragon should be as it is. - Catalonia, Valencia and Balearic Islands are culturally and linguistically similar Catalan language and maybe should belong together. - Andalusia should split maybe in two pieces. - Extremadura and some parts from Andalusia are also culturally quite similar. Could belong together. 1- Castilian Kingdom 2- Aragon 3-Leon- Asturias 4- Navarre (with basque country into it) 5- Galicia 6- Catalonia+Valencia+ Balearic Islands 7- Murcia 6- Extremadura + Andalucia (well this could be better explained by a Andalusian one ;-) ) I think this identities in the country make more sense together (not the actual way)

[@paranodrum9171]

Aragon would either join Castile or Catalonia, we wouldn't get anywhere on our own, maybe it would even split into parts that would join Catalonia and parts that would join Castile.

[@robertabella1806]

@@paranodrum9171 maybe if you had saved aragonese. but it's dead

[@paranodrum9171]

@@robertabella1806 There are people who speak dialects of Aragonese, mainly in the Pyrenees, I know a few myself. It is also beginning to gain more speakers these days, nowhere near Catalan or even Asturleonese of course.

[@SR-jr5nh]

As an andalusian, I can assure you that we don't share a lot of things with extremadura (apart from their ~deeply similar~ flag) and we wouldn't let them join us, and we wouldn't split, we would be a country ourselves + ceuta + melilla

[@ikeragarriye]

@@SR-jr5nh Thank you for your explanation. That is why I said an Andalusian is the best to answer :). Question: An Andalusian friend told me once that maybe Granada, Jaen, Málaga, Córdoba (i am not sure if was included) and Almería. Should be like Granada's Kingdom. And Sevilla, Huelva and Cadiz maybe with Córdoba (not sure) on the other western Andalusia. Ceuta and Melilla (you are right, they have a lot in common with Andalusia culturally, but they used to be part of Morocco too... I don't know...I was trying to put Spanish regions together by logic/history). What do you think about that? I would like to have your point :)