With Mei going M&SU I think Anya would go Arcanists. This would give Arcanists some railroad ties. The Arcanists could be more aware of Mei's 10 Thunders connections and not trust her. M&SU may not know or they may not care, they're more concerned with how people are being treated. With Marcus and Rasputina both being on the Arcanist side of things I think I could see Tara being in there as well. Not so much formally being a member of the organization, but more as someone who is frequently hired and sort of has a connection to magic. In terms of story they could have a shared goal, the sniper that shot her was hired by the guild, or maybe Obliteration thinks it can corrupt or influence some of the Arcanists.
@Marlfoxmokkan Жыл бұрын
I think it was a good idea to not split as it would have removed a lot of the intruge of the faction Theres enough grey right now to where you cant outright say theyre good or evil, id argue thats what makes the factions interesting because every faction has that element of people with good and bad intentions. The split would have made a very clear distinction between extremist and people who just want equal treatment.
@napoleon607111 ай бұрын
Titania secretly corrupted Marcus with the knowledge in the gold leaf. Marcus' second version is literally a Master level Rougarou. He will become her pawn, just like Euripides.
@DefectiveDice11 ай бұрын
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@benelgermosen Жыл бұрын
English Ivan absolutely seems like he was initially slated for Union/Arcanist split. He just doesn't fit the Explorers at all.
@RetnabBanter Жыл бұрын
The fact that we still can't run Mei + Ivan is devastating to me
@ArtefactorsUnion Жыл бұрын
You're initial sorting is exactly how I would have done it so I'm going to call that the Official distribution because no one has more authority than the both of us combined. However I need to dissent from your Explorers distribution. First off I would toss Cooper and Maxine out the door. They come of as EXACTLY what would be developed once Wyrd decided to shift to using the Explorers society (Adventure club old boy and science Captain Nemo). Even with the rivalry between Marcus and Cooper, there ain't no way M&SU is allowing in a guy that hunts people for fun. He's the literal definition of the bourgeoise. My breakdown is that Ivan goes to Arcanists and that his shadow magic was Wyrd actually giving him better theming to fit into the 'magic faction'. He seemed more aligned with Ramos than the Union itself. It also allows for easy drama with his now 'forbidden' relationship with Mei Feng. Arcanists still need information gathering and he'd be a great foil for Kaeris' 'burn everything' policy. Anya goes to the Arcanists as a symbol for the two truly breaking ties. The Arcanists are willing to buddy up with the antithesis of the Union just for funding (especially if Colette's smuggling no longer provides them with scrip). I don't really have an opinion on Nexus or Jedza. Nexus feels like a rival to Ivan so out of all of my theories, Ivan I am the least confident in (IF Nexus was intended for one of the two). Jedza would work better in Arcanists but only on account of her magical leanings, not on her principles. Would also work as a 'See! Not all Arcanists are bad guys' exception. Also also, Molly or Reva I could see dual-factioning into Arcanists. Nellie into M&SU if Hoffman were to move wholesale (Perhaps getting axed after the Ryle incident). Mah would work well in M&SU and I could see Ophelia joining either.
@RetnabBanter Жыл бұрын
I agree with your list overall, only point I want to make is that imo Colette is firmly on the M&SU side for the same reason as Mei: what they really want is to protect the people below them and let them thrive. She has some magic, but what she really has is friendship and that's all M&SU
@attus552 Жыл бұрын
Anya would, in my opinion, be a better fit in Arcanists than M&Su. She alredy has an antagonistic relationship to both Toni and Mei through the whole "capitalist vs workers"-dichotomy, and it could make sense for her to bankroll the arcanists as a shadow investor in order to undermine the Guild.
@derkrischa3720 Жыл бұрын
Cool video idea! Here are my two cents about this: I think Anya could be tweeked to oppose the guilds monopoly on ttransport infrastructure, to fit perfectly inside the Union AND have beef with May Feng and Ironsights. I would put Sandeep into the Arcanists, because he is the Elemental Master. He feels to much like a mage to fit the Union, or at least my mental image of that theoretical faction. Lord Cooper could also be a Guild Master, not really joining them, but going to Lucius and offering him to hunt down Marcus. I could see a rich noble go to the military and order them to help him, hunt down his personal vendetta. Cadmus I would put into the Union but with the twist, that they don't know that it is there. Like a hidden memberthat infects Union members and creates sleeper agents. Maxine has strangely enough outcast vibes for me. I could see her getting rescued by the free corps.
@TheDutchmanofPost Жыл бұрын
I think most of yours works, but move Anya over to Arcanists. That way both get a railroad crew. Both also provide the faction a little of what they lost in the split (Mei gives the M&SU magic and Anya gives the Arcanists steampunk). Then you also got the railroad boss fighting against the union which makes sense. She could become the smuggler since the Arcanists are losing Collette and still need to smuggle Soulstones to have money fund their operations. He crew would probably look a little different, but she's best in the Arcanists.
@ianschneider7998 Жыл бұрын
Agreed could see Anya being a capitalist take the opportunity to join forces with Keris to support her in destroying the union and fighting the guild. While also providing some financial support to the organization with the loss of the smuggling operation
@MrSkabrus Жыл бұрын
I think we´ll see a burning man faction on malifaux now that many master are being corrupted by it´s influence
@wiilov Жыл бұрын
C'mooooooon Malifaux-compatible Adeodatos!
@RetnabBanter Жыл бұрын
@@wiilov I'm legit considering using Maxine2 as an Adeodatos alt, but I love him!
@napoleon607111 ай бұрын
I don't know, of the 5 "effected" masters two are not really corrupted. One is Ulix, his prize pig caught on fire and he chose to ride it rather than put it out of it's misery. In that story it is clear Ulix could totally care less about the burning man. The second is Euripides. The Burning man blinded him with visions of fire to stop him from seeing fate. Titania was able to cure Euripides with the ancient magics of blood and bone to give him his future sight back. They are now looking for a way to defeat the Burning man. Maxine, Nellie and Kaeris all seem to be under the Bunring Man's influence to some extent though.
@ianschneider7998 Жыл бұрын
Honestly could see Hamlin coming in for the Arcanists fully. His story sets up his animosity with the other outcasts and could see Keris bringing him over for help weakening the city.
@ianschneider799811 ай бұрын
@@TheRatsintheWalls because they would want to destabilize the city and see tering the whole city down the best option. I'd see Arcanists if they split being a full terrorist organisation that would do everything to destroy the guild even if that means destroying the city in the process
@fredricknoe3114 Жыл бұрын
1:07 I can't speak for ALL of them but my man Marcus would never stoop to the level of picket signs, or steam fitting because nature is way cooler than industrial society and it's consequences. Edit: I misunderstood the question and thought you meant the previous Arcanist masters. Whoops
@jaydenatreides11 ай бұрын
IMO i still see this split happening at some point when ramos returns as I doubt he will take Ironsides "betrayal" lightly
@TheHarleqwin Жыл бұрын
Too much same/same between the two, I think. It just makes more sense to have them together. With that said, it would be interesting to create more differentiation (if not probably over the top) by including "allegiances" between specific characters in-faction, like sub factions of a sort. Maybe models within your allegiance count as versatile, or maybe increase the OOK cost to +2SS for models from out of your allegiance. Cut be another way to cut down on all-star lists.
@napoleon607111 ай бұрын
Ramos in the Arcanists, kicked out of the Union.
@LC-wv7tz Жыл бұрын
Disagree with a lot of choices. Arcanists in general are a really disunified faction, though. The only masters that purely represent Arcanists and M&SU directly are Kaeris and Toni respectively. Marcus and Rasputina obviously don't make sense at all. Other than being mages, they have essentially 0 ties to the faction. It seemed like early in the lore they had Ramos going around trying to make contact with and get connections with any powerful magic user, but then just kind of dropped that angle. Removing Ramos from the lore honestly really screwed up the fiction as he was a central character to the faction and the only person tying them all together. Rasputina and Marcus make more sense in Outcasts or something, I agree there. Mei Feng is thematically a M&SU master for sure, other than the elementals. It would be very easy to see how the railworkers and M&SU would end up crossing paths and working together. Hoffman is another tricky one. To me, he thematically very much fits the bill of Arcanists over anyone else. High tech magitech constructs (as opposed to simpler machines like the porkchop) and magically and mechanically enhanced humans is very Arcanist. Nevermind, the academic/intellectual, pursuit of knowledge thing he has going on feels very Arcanist. He's also a powerful mage that is able to control most machines with his mind alone and manipulate electricity a bit. Only problem is in the lore he has no dealings whatsoever with either M&SU or Arcanists. So it doesn't really make sense, other than he met Ramos that one time. I think after learning the truth about the Arcanists and that they didn't sabotage his and Ryle's crossing might make him more sympathetic to them. His story in 3e also has him only working with Arcanists. As far as we know, he's never even met someone from M&SU, so I don't see that thematically or in the lore for him. Sandeep also feels very pure Arcanist to me given his background. If there was a dual faction, I think it would be either Mei or Colette. Probably Colette, as that would likely require Mei to leave 10T completely.
@kevin-ux5qk Жыл бұрын
i think nicodem wouldve stayed in the arcanists, fits way better than msu
@lordmalkom1675 Жыл бұрын
I think a new fraction M&SU would have been great. Arcanists are far too strong. splitting it up and theme them up more would have been great. And Ironsides fits far better to M&SU. Mei would need three factions.