What if the Industrial Revolution Never Happened? (Ft. List 25)

[@Cafferssss]

well, the environment would be happier for sure......

[@romulusnuma116]

Probably

[@itsjustnils]

+FantasticMr.Fox Not really that much, if nothing changed every home would burn coal/wood for heat and not use electricity wich would be almost the same if not more hurtfull for the environment

[@davidlewis6728]

+FantasticMr.Fox the environment would be safer, the population wouldn't be happier. you are referring to global warming, a thing, don't pretend it can have feelings. (also, fossil fuels are going to be replaced hopefully soon, pretend the earth has entered it's teen years and started smoking like crazy, but then the e-cig (or something else) happened in a few years... that. or young death :P)

[@felipevasconcelos6736]

Farming really impacts the environment. Animals fart methane, and agriculture take lots of space, replacing forests, plains, jungles, etc.

[@CasperVanLaar]

+I ItsJustNils I no wrong.

[@josephstalin8423]

Only 1700s and 1800s kids will understand this.

[@daraj02]

ye

[@manahanjulsbernardd.6793]

i understand it

[@Orangheedy]

Only them

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

+Job J Born in 1793 and raised in the 1800's

[@tumbleman5681]

+Job J #1790's kid

[@gcircle]

So basically...we would stay in pre-industrial technology. Surprise.

[@captainvanhorn773]

What an idea, why didn't I think of that

[@aurelia8028]

No thank you. I like everything about the modern world and no amount of whining about the enviroment will make me give that up

[@mateovazquez6685]

@@aurelia8028 Hahaha nobody talked about that

[@JakubWojciechowski933]

Yeah exactly. Why did he almost didn't tackle on the topics of the actual things that happened in the world and wouldn't because of the Revolution?

[@bruh-db8by]

@@aurelia8028 so you like corporations and big government breathing down your neck watching every movement, and more than 50% of workers feeling unsatisfied due to a lack of genuine impactful work? bro keep living in ignorance, contributing to the death of nature, individuality, and human creativity. the chances are high you provide nothing genuine to this world, and you're not even a gear but the grease in the machine

[@list25]

Thank you for the collab! We really had fun working with you and the final product is AWESOME!

[@jaymar4438]

hola

[@turtledude83]

:D

[@dapenguin4637]

You suck

[@captain1254]

+list25 please acquire a better mic, it really hurt the production.. other than that, glad to have you on here

[@skreb7336]

Yay two of my favorite channels

[@elfboi523]

What if the Neolithic Revolution never happened? We'd all be nomadic tribes of hunter-gatherers. No alternative history, in fact, no history at all, because no writing. :P

[@elfboi523]

The Unknown Don't forget wild starchy roots and tubers, grass seeds, wild honey, fish, clams, crabs, shrimp, snails, locusts, whatever happens to be available and edible.

[@kaukolaurila9861]

elfboi523 Then what the hell are cave paintings other than history, thus writing...? A good point otherwise, though.

[@elfboi523]

The Unknown Most children dying before their 5th birthday. Most of those who live long enough to grow up dying before the age of 60. There are still places on this planet where that's quite common.

[@elfboi523]

The Unknown They usually wouldn't attack an able adult human though, just children and elderly people. And humans would stick together in groups most of the time, keeping their young and old people safe. As long as there is easier prey than humans, there isn't much danger, except from a few individual predators with a taste for manflesh. And those can be identified and killed. Remember, we co-evolved with African predators, and as soon as you can organise a group and make flint-tipped spears, you can kill enough of them to make the survivors look for different prey. You might lose a few thrillseeking adolescent boys and young adult men hunting down the man-eaters, but later generations of predators wouldn't be as likely to hunt humans. A single human, however, or a small number of mostly children and/or old people, would attract predators, and therefore, situations like that were avoided by sticking together. Once the predators know that it isn't safe to get too close to a human tribe, you can be pretty safe just by singing and dancing around the campfire at night, to show off your presence and your strength. Every once in a while, one of your people will get eaten, well, bad luck. You'll have more children killed by sickness or hunger than by predators. A lot more. And you'll still have population growth as long as there is enough fertile land to be explored. Once the Neolithic Revolution takes hold, predators become a huge problem: Sheep, cattle, chickens, pigs, all those are much easier to prey on than their wild ancestors. That's why farmers always want to hunt all the predators to extinction, and to hell with the ecology. Now we have human hunters trying to regulate wild animal populations as good as we can (which means, badly), because we're the only apex predators left. We've got far too many deer and wild boars here in Germany, because the few dozen wolves living in a few locations just can't take care of them. Yet farmers keep shooting or poisoning wolves, even if they might go to prison if they're caught.

[@VCYT]

That sounds like America after the 2016 election.

[@michaelhyams632]

Basically, we would live like the Amish.

[@joshuapreza6463]

Yup.....

[@emptyspace3975]

Fuck no

[@reptilianbrotherhood4205]

+Michael Hyams HHHHHHIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS

[@TraceLight]

+Herp a Derp exactly, fuck no.

[@GASMASKANGEL166]

+ShooterdoesMC Boss AWWWW FUCK NO!

[@wojtekimbier]

But wait! Wasn't industrial revolution inevitable? Wouldn't machines be built eventually? -Billy

[@gittevandevelde2208]

Well, no, actually. Mechanics were already a thing for centuries, and happened everywhere. But actual machines and industrialization basically only existed in Europe for a while and came to exist because of the bad living conditions: after the black plague in the 14 century it regularly returned so there was quite a bit of population lack. People needed machines to do the work, as there weren't people to do so. And before we knew it...Boom industry.

[@BeverlySchnett]

it could be possible to focus more on the mechanization of agriculture than on industry so that a farmer could produce with machines more food and he does not need the support of animals and other humans. or somewhere in teh 19th century the ordinary people overthrow their "capitalist" elites and run the fabrics and the economy by tehmselves

[@bleachlasagna3341]

wojtekimbier Gosh darn it billy

[@lokenontherange]

Not if you have a cheap enough labour force that would result in mechanisation not being worthwhile economically. It happened mostly because the cost of labour in England became weirdly high and subsequently replacing that labour force became a handy plan. This video's biggest problem is that it forgets that.

[@DacLMK]

Well the industrial revolution could've happened in ancient Greece but the dude who invented the steam engine (Aeolipile) gave up on it.

[@aliaselysum4401]

"Faster and cheaper than in China" not something that will ever happen again

[@Mystic-Dust]

Can't really say they're collapsing. It gets old after people kept saying for decades, it's like saying the apocalypse will happen, then it doesn't happen.

[@os8mm178]

No labor laws means cheap production

[@phoenixfeather1337]

Will now lol

[@syghdeaar4753]

@@os8mm178 dude china is booming right now have you seen pictures of it they look like every stock photo of a futuristic city minus the flying cars its sick

[@numberneinlarge9965]

Ted Kaczynski approves of this video

[@NineDollars9D]

What if Persia (Modern-day Iran) never converted to Islam?

[@Awakeningspirit20]

The world would be a better place... it's not even Iran's fault, people in Iran today seem to love their country as the Islamic Republic, but it's just Iran's crazy relationship with, well, everyone else... Iran and America hate each other so much it makes the situation in the Middle East a lot more difficult.

[@fulcrum2951]

awakeningspirit20 well who's fault was it then that cause the coup de that that created the unnecessary monarchy in iran in the first place to pissed off the iranians then?

[@BeverlySchnett]

we would fight against Zoroastrism as the Greek and Romans did

[@harisjutt69]

@rétro that comment was 1 year old why did u even bother to correct him?

[@cherkas009]

They have a splinter group form of Islam so in a sense they never had true Islam in iran

[@DakkogiRauru23]

My guess is that countries would have remained less stable, including the United States. Because of the vast distance, it would have been much easier for a Union to break up or change structurally. However, I still imagine an age of sail, just not an age of colonization.

[@dv9239]

Large kingdoms existed way before industrialization Like mughal empire in India

[@DakkogiRauru23]

the mysterious Which collapsed

[@dv9239]

@@DakkogiRauru23 yes because of many things happening at right time but there are many that succeeded tho American kingdom could've been one

[@DakkogiRauru23]

the mysterious Not really. See, before industrialization, there was no way to produce more food to feed a growing population as much as we have today. There also wasn’t a free market that could address shortages via trade. The state owned everything. Whenever a state started lacking in resources, which was all the time, the only solution was to concur another territory and extract its resources. This led to frequent collapse of kingdoms, no matter how long lived they were. Frequent collapse is the opposite of stable.

[@qui-gonjim6440]

@@DakkogiRauru23 and yet the Roman Empire and Egyptian kingdoms lasted for millennia, not quite a series of "frequent collapses". There are no rules to history that happen 100% of the time if certain conditions are met.

[@sherifelsharkawyful]

Also guys, when you talked about the UK in the year 1760 you used the wrong flag, the Union Flag wouldn't have had the red stripe over the white stripes since that didn't occur until the Act of Union of 1801.

[@chair7573]

17?0-1860

[@sherifelsharkawyful]

Illium What?

[@bluegravestone58]

I'm pretty sure it happened in 1707

[@sherifelsharkawyful]

***** There was an Act of Union in 1707, but it was the one that unified Scotland and England, not Ireland and the United Kingdom. The Union flag was born in 1707, but it didn't have the saltire of St Patrick(the red 'x' running over the white 'x') until 1801.

[@CupidFromKentucky]

+Kyle Edwards Talk when you're sure not pretty sure.

[@johnroy5169]

OMG PERFECT TIMING!!!!! We are just starting the Industrial Revolution in school and I can use some facts you state to show off to the class :D no hour-long documentaries this chapter!

[@bobtheflyingdonkey]

Not so great timing for me bc we just finished the chapter on development in AP human geography. ):

[@johnroy5169]

bobtheflyingdonkey :/

[@robdog7]

I just finished my section on it :(

[@MrMinerGuy142]

+bobtheflyingdonkey AP US History is already deep into the Cold War for me so....fuck...

[@aggbak1]

same here

[@grumpiesttitan7930]

Industrial society and it's consequences

[@Lucy-ng7cw]

Not liking having list25 on this....

[@Music_games_history]

Why

[@Lucy-ng7cw]

Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression thats really going to help kids from crippling depression

[@ApocalypticTards]

+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression Seriously, fuck off.

[@daraj02]

+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression MY NAME IS COOL CAT AND I LOVE ALL KIDS I LOVE BABIES THEY'RE PAINTING ON SOMEONE'S WALL AND IT'S NOT COOL TO PAINT ON SOMEONE'S WALL

[@daraj02]

+Sharqueesha Johnalaneesha *IHE

[@brendanfligger1669]

What if Gunpowder was never invented?

[@StuziCamis]

Yes! This is an amazing idea! :D

[@appaloosahill4499]

What if Britain never colonized American

[@gr7476]

Brendan Fligger that was already done

[@derekv1183]

Brendan Fligger What if There was no pollution.

[@KentPetersonmoney]

American revolutionary war would have been fought with bow and arrows.

[@gifyifhkhmcucyk6865]

This video title: *exists * Ted Kaczynski: hold my pipe bomb

[@antaine1916]

"...how society changed so quickly and in such a quick amount of time..." Does "quickly" mean anything other than "in a quick amount of time"?

[@nopedope454]

no

[@joshuapartridge5092]

A huge factor sort of glossed over here, is that the initial need for coal was driven by a need for fuel for fireplaces and furnaces because agriculture had cut down most of the trees in england. So, the initial spark was actually resource scarcity imo

[@MVSSENJU]

Do a: What if the Portuguese never explored the world? Could europe be discovered by the Indians or Chinese? Or even by the Astecs? How the world would have been nowadays?

[@calebtimes453]

Or if Portugal was united with Spain and never left from the middle ages onwards.

[@Awakeningspirit20]

India and China already knew Europe before Portugal, they were trading back in Roman times. Do you mean the Americas?

[@ottovonbisquick6996]

awakeningspirit20 yeah your right because In 100 c.e (a.d) the Indians had been in the Silk Road along with the Chinese

[@ycasto1063]

Somebody would take their place probably the Spanish or the French, maybe the Hanseatic cities or Venetians will be their rivals

[@juanfranciscocosta5387]

There wouldn't be a Tordesillas Treaty, meaning the world wouldn't be divided between Castille and Portugal. Since Portuguese domain in Brazilian coasts was legitimized by this treaty, and Castille's discovery of the Americas had more to do with Columbus getting information from Aragonese fishermen, I believe that would result in Spaniards total control of South America and the Caribbean. The stablishment of trading points in India and China are a whole different topic. I imagine any European potency would have arrived sooner or later.

[@p..._...p6437]

What if Britain sided with the central powers in World War One?

[@flamingtrashcans9502]

Yes

[@minecraft4blt]

Very unlikely, yet intriguing nevertheless.

[@shrekdank3473]

+Brandoosky well if Germany never went through Belgium we probably would of

[@shrekdank3473]

+Shrek Dank *have

[@ray_99]

Unlikely just because they had a few wars against the US and France wouldn't make them not side which us

[@lowmandave]

Michigander here. We may go to war with Ohio for many other reasons, but in the pop vs. soda battle, we and our buckeye brethren fight as one.

[@imperiumromanum7375]

My dad won't even buy Ice Cream if it's made in Michigan

[@kyrakia5507]

I cannot imagine two more different youtubers making a collab together, but it somehow worked, so props to you

[@MrImperatorRoma]

What if MacArthur used nuclear weapons on the Chinese during the Korean War? The USSR at the time had very few nuclear weapons and the Chinese had absolutely none, so I don't think a nuclear apocalypse would be likely.

[@matthewrobinson2701]

Yass, do this timeline.

[@jordanandreassen2897]

Please do this

[@beans11138]

oh god yes. please do this

[@cyber774]

@@beans11138 he already did it i believe

[@BigBobsh2o]

On the bright side global warming wouldn't exist and the environment as a whole would be a lot cleaner.

[@kalyanarc4467]

+Rob Ski You want another bright side ?? No capitalism. Wealth would remain balanced in all classes, and generally, employance would not be such a problem, meaning that no man would be starving. Also, since colonisation is absent, Africa would remain untouched and nobody would take its resources, meaning that you wouldn't have children in Africa starving. Cultures rarely meet, globalisation would not even be a thing, ammunition would not have been made in such ammounts, ideas would not spread and people would revolt much less, meaning that, generally, there would be less wars and less bloodshed. I also belive that, even without medicine, people would not die or be sick from diseases that much, because people travel much less without modern transport, and so, diseases themselves would have hard time spreading. And yes, we would have healthier people and safer enviroment, because, besides global warming, air pollution that has strong effect on pulmonary diseases (asthma, bronchitis, even lung cancer) would be absent. There would be no drugs, because they wouldn't be able to travel from distant parts in Asia and South America. There would be no tobacco, too, reasulting in, again, healthier population. I see a brither world without Industrial Revolution.

[@BigBobsh2o]

Samsung Galaxy Good points. Although I think the tobacco trade began before the industrial revolution. And I think our life expectancy would be much shorter and our health care system would be a total joke by today's standards.

[@kalyanarc4467]

+Rob Ski Yah you're right, I said it wrongly. Sure, there would BE tobacco, but it wouldn't be able to TRAVEL so quickly without steamboats and trains.

[@googane7755]

+Samsung Galaxy Good points but then we're forcing ourselves to be blissfully ignorant. No future or past, who knows, maybe it's a good thing.

[@gr7476]

Kalyan Arc without the industrial revolution the agricultural revolution wouldn’t progress as much and there would be much less food so there would still be a lot of starvation when disasters struck

[@benjigoulbourne]

9:22 "less people around to talk to" sounds good to me

[@langskeppet9887]

Ted k wouldn’t have to be based.

[@stevemcdigstraightdown2404]

Cody “Just doesn’t happen” Alternate History

[@mm-ez6xn]

Then the creepy Valve-in-back-of-head guy from the intro to steam games wouldn't exist.

[@Lands_Verader]

I have a suggestion. What if Leon Trotsky took power after lenin died (not Stalin)?

[@CatMaster90001]

As an avid communist myself, I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. The future of communism would be far different if Lenin's final wishes to put Trotsky in charge of the USSR were respected.

[@gifyifhkhmcucyk6865]

@@CatMaster90001 comrade🚩⚒

[@phasmas1803]

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[@123dan165]

that question is answered in the video ''What if Stalin never rose to power?''

[@matthewprice8362]

This actually sounds a lot nicer than real life

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

Poor transportation logistics and medical tech slowly progressing sounds like a lot of fun for you, I bet.

[@eduardsusai559]

@@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666 yes. Yes it does liberal

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

@@eduardsusai559 Another Hippie luddite being wrong.

[@CosmicDalmatian]

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

[@MouldMadeMind]

Everything you said is wrong.

[@SuperGman117]

What if, at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't split, and instead was a single, neutral country left to its own devices?

[@wampower6848]

It would probably just become wedded to the West and America after the Marshall plan rained money on it like in our time line with West Germany. The Soviet Union would have a wall on the border of Poland, not Germany.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

@@wampower6848 there probably wouldn't have been a wall at all. There was no wall in East Germany, but East Berlin, which was far beyond the East German border. Berlin is on an island. So it's much easier to wall off than an extensive 290 mile border. That being said they actually got close. 2 walls both roughly 82 miles. Maybe they could have done it if enough Poles defected, but certainly not overnight.

[@josephstalin2829]

Powered by Steam.

[@josephstalin2829]

I'm immortal

[@os8mm178]

Another Stalin which one is imposter!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@Robbie-pc1dl]

@@os8mm178 early among us player

[@haydenheitter3507]

Industrial revolution and its consequences

[@__europa]

It will be 8 billion by 2025 wrong

[@DvDick]

And what if industrial revolution happened before the 19th century? Ancient greeks were able to create a very simple machine that worked with steam... what if they explored that machine further?

[@DvDick]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile

[@hedgeknight3194]

or the romans, who had problems with production and keeping a large empire

[@hoseadavit3422]

+SniperShy96 Then it will become like Atlantis

[@elsasslotharingen7507]

Greek Bourgeoisie exploiting Persian Proletariat.

[@VCYT]

+SniperShy96 - in England we created a knitting machine 230 years before our industrial revolution, but our queen wouldn't finance it as knew it would cause unemployment.

[@TheWiking982]

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a major catastrophe for the human race... ~ Teddy K.

[@Frozo-nt2ky]

This Teddy K guy sounds like an idiot

[@icrushchildrensdreams4556]

@@Frozo-nt2ky he was a mathematical genius.

[@luxtenax9175]

Ugh, why is that guy from list25 here? I even have that dumb channel blocked =/

[@spencervernier4136]

Lol yet he commented below you

[@list25]

1) Because this was a collaboration between our channels. 2) Ouch. :( ~Mike

[@luxtenax9175]

list25 I know this was a collaboration video, it was still unpleasant to see you here. Sorry matey boy, it's nothing personal, I just can't stand dumb channels about "top x" lists and clickbait titles, even less when the information you give is sometimes wrong or outdated.

[@spike9653]

what if England won the 100 years war instead of France?

[@mayonaka558]

Actually, the 100 Years War was a draw, neither country won.

[@spike9653]

SomeRandomHetalian Oh yeah my mistake. I just thought France won because they took back France from England.

[@mayonaka558]

Okay okay sorry *Hands in air, backing away*

[@birdsqautchman1116]

what if public education was outlawed by government (today) and all those who sought education had to pay businesses or craftsmen to teach them skills, much like guilds and apprenticeships during renaissance.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

@James what the hell does that mean? France held the line the entire time in WW1. and then theres the french resistance.

[@seppoleonvervloet132]

what if pornhub was never founded

[@beastlyform6307]

Id have much less time spend on my computer

[@DegenerateDavie]

Beastly Form You Deserve a Medal

[@MsPaintMr]

People Would Use Their Imaginations More.

[@Vitorruy1]

Their lands would be split between Xvideos and Xhamster.

[@bluegravestone58]

seppe vervloet Genocide the likes of which have never been seen before would occur all over the world. Mass hysteria would topple the world powers. Epidemics would spread all throughout the world. Japan, now reformed as the Hentai Empire, would seize this opportunity to invade

[@richyie2754]

Unabomber has entered the chat

[@adamthornton7880]

This is basically the future Thomas Malthus was afraid of.

[@CallsignBasilisk]

What if the Cold War never happened?

[@TheNutmeg33]

Post-singularity

[@GeneralJakeMLB]

9/11

[@fat_alsgaming]

I think he did a video on that.

[@BuddyPalDav]

The hot war would have happened.

[@dutch1641]

+CatMan XD

[@jackbelinski2661]

It should be remembered that for most of the period of the Industrial Revolution, the majority of industries still relied on wind and water power as well as horse and man-power for driving small machines. In which case, without steam engines, there still technically would have been factories, just not steam powered ones. Instead they would have been sophisticated wind and water mills, as well as solar updraft engines like the one first proposed in 1903 by the Spanish Colonel Isidoro Cabanyes. There may have also been mills powered by geothermal steam vents, hence steam mills. Not to mention concepts like “Division of labor” and “Assembly lines” would still be applied. In short, mass production would still be possible.

[@stephenw.4390]

I think you should do something about if an industrial revolution happened on the 1st century. There was actually a Greek scientist screwing around with a miniature steam engine IN THE 1st CENTURY! cool

[@AlDuke14]

I would LOVE that video!!!!

[@Elvesflame]

+Steve Chadwarz The Greeks also invented an early analog computer. Ever heard of the Antikythera?

[@stephenw.4390]

+Elvesflame I have! It was found in a ancient ship, wasn't it?

[@Elvesflame]

Steve Chadwarz Yup, at the bottom of the sea

[@h.e.riddleton1373]

You left out an important aspect of UK prosperity: colonization. The British lived in their own shit and could barely figure out how to use chimneys before the Portugese provided a model for colonization. Exploiting, raping, murdering, and stealing from indigenous peoples of the Americas, as well as kidnapping people from West Africa and forcing them into labor, enabled vast agricultural advancements in food production and enabled economic flexibility and scientific patronage. So yeah... the Industrial Revolution happened on the backs of Indigenous people and enslaved Africans. Also, Industrial Revolution has been the primary historical contributer to the climate crisis. Though, I enjoy the comforts that came from it... maybe, in an alternative universe, maybe without colonization of America and Africa and India... maybe someone could have invented industry with renewable resources... who knows? India was incredibly technologically advanced and experimentative. The earliest surgeries beyond trepanning happened in India. Many parts of Africa, like the Mali empire and the Benin Kingdom, were advanced as well. They invented Iron working before anyone else on this planet. The Aztec and Mayan Empires were artistically advanced and experimentative. Also, in the 13th century, in what is known today as Iraq, a great inventor was born: al-Jazari, known as the father of robotics. His automata were able to run on gear mechanics and water energy. No oil or coal needed. Maybe if these regions formed an alliance, with many of their belief systems bound by a connection with the earth rather than a Dominion over it (like cough cough Christianity), a better system could have been created that would have taken us into the modern world in a much healthier way. Be more creative next time. Also, you do know that history doesn't revolve around White people, right? Europe didn't save the world. It sadly, very possibly, doomed the world. I hope that you have grown in the past six years. As a White person who grew up in the US education system, I have been incredibly sheltered, conditioned by ideas of White Supremacy. I am still undoing this conditioning and becoming better. I hope you are too.

[@johnmarkreddick8496]

We would all be happy and content

[@JubulusPrime]

Yeah, Under capitalism we are all slaves to desire, Saving up for the next new toy is the only thing that keeps us going. I don't want mindless consumption anymore, I just want to be happy. . .

[@slambam2665]

*INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY*

[@christopherwinne5434]

"Without steam engines, factories are left dependent on rivers to turn their turbines. Like Barbarians." I laughed.

[@moldova7857]

I personally think it would be much better

[@darshparikh1555]

My guess is that the world would just eventually die out. Humans would go extinct. Diseases and other issues would soon become overwhelming, and the population would start to die out in various parts of the world. (Good that this didn't happen lol)

[@moldova7857]

@@darshparikh1555 People could develop in natural medicine and hygiene and live somewhat healthy. But with these industries our life is not only separated from nature, but we also depend on some monstrous gray buildings that we pay to give us food and heat. Humans are barely independent...

[@darshparikh1555]

@@moldova7857 ikr

[@JubulusPrime]

Like yeah, You wouldn't slave away with some immoral company or anything with this world

[@chaImers]

What if google never bought youtube?

[@thelastranger_139]

A perfect world

[@daniel1c]

Google never brought KZbin, they bought them when they were already huge

[@atomiclizard1215]

What if the Internet wasn't invented

[@theroguenetwork1083]

“Who has over 2 million subscribers” Modern day viewer: He did it, that crazy son of a bitch did it

[@GLeee14]

Ted Kaczynski enjoyed this

[@adamhenrywalker]

Ted Kaczynski vindication

[@matthewcollins4764]

So it seems like it was simpler but more culture in individual areas and some atrocities such as African colonization and the horrible conditions factory workers faced were prevented sounds good to me. Although there would also be the absence of modern medicine but the obesity epidemic would be avoided.

[@Guitarfollower22]

Perfect timing. I have one week to write a college paper about the Industrial Revolution, gonna steal your stuff. Thanks bra

[@uhhhscizo6531]

We would become a utopia

[@АлексейТабаков-ы8в]

Where you would die in your 20's, is that utopia?

[@uhhhscizo6531]

@@АлексейТабаков-ы8в how would I die in my 20s? In a war? The "enlightenment" was still before the industrial revolution, dumbass, so they didn't levy people anymore.

[@IkarosDC]

@@АлексейТабаков-ы8в да, вопросы? Жизнь наполненная жизнью, а не соевым существованием, действительно лучше.

[@АлексейТабаков-ы8в]

@@IkarosDC К тебе у меня вопрос получше - что ты в интернете забыл тогда?

[@richhornie7000]

Working hours would be shorter than today and so is life expectancy. Value of life increases relative to today's and thereby a shorter living but happier society. Also no climate change to battle and thereby no massive extinction of life and destruction of environment in an unprecedented scale.

[@christianch5037]

Hey AlternateHistoryHub! Being an Armenian, I've always been fascinated by everything Armenian, specifically their wars. Just in case you didn't know (which I highly doubt), Turkey, and Armenia have sort of been in a feud. In the early 1900's, due to religious differences and jealousy, over a million Turkish-Armenians were massacred in an unrecognized genocide. I was wondering: -What if the Armenian Genocide never happened? I know for a fact that Adolf Hitler actually brought up the Armenian Genocide to convince people on how no one would realize the Jewish people would be exterminated, and I'm sure a lot more would have happened if the genocide never took place. Since the Armenian Genocide remembrance day is this coming April 24th, I was hoping you could possibly make a video about it. Sincerely ~A random internet person

[@christianch5037]

Here's a link explaining it all: www.armenian-genocide.org/ottoman.html

[@Awakeningspirit20]

Turks still don't recognize it to this day, so sad. Yes I believe the genocide inspired both Hitler and Stalin.

[@CraftQueenJr]

Death shall come in droves good idea! Ps. Love the username!

[@tanmayawahal1160]

Everytime you said Armenian, I read American

[@savyor9985]

exactly right, The Assyrians and Greeks heck even the Armenians never rebelled against the ottomans and were basically murdered for no reason other than being Christians, the fact that the turkish government today denies the existence of these genocides means these pieces of shit in power are no different than the ottomans

[@imanukekaboom3715]

Probably one of my favorite of your videos. Keep it up!

[@Clee-os6pv]

Cody you should do "What if the industrial revolution happened in China first?"

[@identitycrisis4557]

Nothing changes

[@potato467]

either way they would still be the most industrial country today

[@forgefathereli8354]

+Starkiller Look up recent events in china... It was, is, and always was, going to be a house of cards with no real industrial foundation. And I won a $50,000 bet i made with my political science professor back in 1999 recently, because of just how crappy china is doing and that it's literally on the brink of collapse unless it starts using its army, and creates a enemy to unify the people again. They chose Japan in the last few weeks. Seriously do u not read the news?

[@potato467]

+Eli Gutman I watch European news

[@GamingSwampert]

+Starkiller ....usa is number one.

[@accountburner4714]

What if the industrial revolution happened 100 years earlier

[@hughb.b4069]

we'd be more advanced now probably

[@MegaDuras]

+Hugh B.B I heard that the industrial revolution could have happened several centuries earlier in China. But one of the key elements was missing. There is no water in the chinese coal mines so, no need for a steam engine. If it did happen the worl woul be quite different.

[@TCZ17090]

Ted Kaczynski was right

[@golgolmois3993]

I wish this (didnt) happen(ed)

[@proudnoob124]

HOL UP......SO U BE SAYIN'...........no porn? ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

[@TheStrikeBlitz]

+proudnoob124 we dem boiz

[@Crusender]

+proudnoob124 there was porn at that time but too costly for peasants.

[@ray_99]

My god I'm 10 how do you think I'm so posed to react. I'm atheist so I used got to express a strong feeling

[@ted7264]

Breathing in the dark, lying on its side The ruins of the day painted with a scar And the more I straighten out, the less it wants to try The feelings start to rot, one wink at a time Oh-oh, forgiving who you are, for what you stand to gain Just know that if you hide, it doesn't go away When you get out of bed, don't end up stranded Horrified with each stone on the stage, my little dark age Picking through the cards, knowing what's nearby The carvings on the face say they find it hard And the engine's failed again, all limits of disguise The humor's not the same, coming from denial Oh-oh, I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange You know that if it hides, it doesn't go away If I get out of bed, you'll see me standing all alone Horrified on the stage, my little dark age Giddy with delight, seeing what's to come The image of the dead, dead ends in my mind Policemen swear to God, love seeping from their guns I know my friends and I would probably turn and run If you get out of bed, come find us heading for the bridge Bring a stone, all the rage, my little dark age I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age All alone, open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age

[@darshparikh1555]

wut?????????????/

[@salokin3087]

What if China maintained its Imperial rule during the 19th and 20th century? Would have it fallen eventually or stay afloat as a major power? God i love this channel!

[@papajack222]

+Salokin Sekwah He already did the russian revolution and the hannibal thing.

[@salokin3087]

+papajack222 Thanks!

[@WCS6394]

O-H

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

+WCS6394 I-O

[@clumsycapy]

-l

[@WCS6394]

+AlternateHistoryHub it's cool that there's a KZbinr from Ohio and one as good as you

[@huebalue2702]

+AlternateHistoryHub I'm also from Ohio, we don't say pop, no one says pop.

[@barrydaemi6287]

+WCS6394 Hydroxide? (sarcastic question)

[@australopithecus_lucis]

"The agricultural society and its consequences have been a disaster for our society" - Ked Taczynski

[@joshuabeck5579]

I prefer this timeline.

[@4formsofMATTer]

Unscramble these words! 1.)PNEIS 2.)HTIELR 3.)NGGERI 4.)BUTTSXE Did you get SPINE, LITHER, GINGER, and SUBTEXT?

[@mrwildweasel]

+4formsofMATTer Lol

[@AsymmetricalCrimes]

+4formsofMATTer You sir, are the oddest Bernie Sanders supporter I've seen yet. And I've seen quite alot on the internet.

[@gazhevski]

The rise of nationalism probably wouldn't have been a thing as much. For a peasant it doesn't really matter who your landlord is

[@Dirty_Orange_Cup]

I'm also from Ohio. We say soda.

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

+Freeracer colin Southern part?

[@Dirty_Orange_Cup]

AlternateHistoryHub Yep. Dayton area. Also, jeez that was a fast response.

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

+Freeracer colin Neato. I'm from Toledo.

[@Dirty_Orange_Cup]

AlternateHistoryHub Cool. When you first said that you're form Ohio, for some reason I briefly thought that you were my AP History teacher (You sound similar)

[@sayeedmohammed8620]

+Freeracer colin In Washington we say soda and pop

[@lordofbrokenplains6952]

"Thank you good King jolly jolly what what" had me laughing. Seriously though, this was an interesting one..

[@Samuel_Brinkley]

Miners gathering coal: 😃 Minors gathering coal: 😨

[@jxchu1056]

2:13 who noticed that Chinas character had really small eyes 😂😂😂

[@Lostmc660]

What if the Holy Roman Empire managed to centralize itself so it could be one united German nation

[@antiochus87]

@albert einstien What do any of those examples have to do with the suggested scenario? If anything all those examples are more similar to the Holy Roman Empire in its divided form. If you want a relevant example from the period then France is the obvious choice. There were the French Wars of Religion around Catholicism and Protestantism, but also if Germany (let's say the non-Italian part of the HRE) had been more unified, then Protestantism might not be as successful as that's where it started and initially picked up traction. Of course the Holy Roman Emperor (when it actually was an empire) had a habit of fighting with the Pope a lot, so it's just as plausible that a Holy Roman Empire might go Protestant instead, and Protestantism is even more successful. There's a lot that would change and it depends on how this scenario comes about, for much of modern European history the defining thing about Germany was its disunity, and it was the place the great powers fought their wars in Europe.

[@Lin-ob2wz]

THNX HELPED ME ON MY POWERPOINT HAD NO IDEAS TIL I SAW DIS

[@imperiumromanum7375]

Ah yes, this is what shaped our modern technological world

[@DeniseFisher422]

Wonder if we time travelled back to that time and gave them clean electricity, would the earth ne cleaner today, or still the same

[@justinsutton5005]

It would not be. You gave them the technology but they do not have the technology to produce it. Thry would go to coal.

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

>World without Industrialism That sounds like hell with Extra Steps.

[@JubulusPrime]

>World with capitalism That sounds like hell with Extra Steps

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

@@JubulusPrime Exactly!

[@IAkaksjdjtjeidi]

*Heaven

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

@@IAkaksjdjtjeidi Anti-industrialism mfs try not to be masochists challenge(Inga bunga)

[@cisco3111]

What if Napoleon succeed in his plan to invade Great Britain?

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

+1'd; good idea.

[@williamfitzgerald7687]

He'd immediately run back to France on first sight of Scotland.

[@TLedoux-px4xl]

the anime code geass happens lol

[@orthodoxcrusader8568]

Basically we wouldn't be choking on air

[@princebeglar7722]

Do you think you’ll do another collab with list25 now that he back.

[@bjrnarleevolden8101]

There's a Ted Kaczynski joke here somewhere...

[@BlueBedouin]

The world would be a better place...

[@xRougeShadowx]

I died when you showed that shot of you on the pony.

[@zoomerjack5435]

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[@Frozo-nt2ky]

Industrialization is the reason you’re on your phone right now. Industrialization is the reason you have roof over your head and you don’t have to worry about dropping dead from just a cut. Industrialization is the best thing to happen since sliced bread

[@pixel6698]

@@Frozo-nt2ky Industrialization is the reason we are slowly killing the planet. Industrialization is the reason why people are so unhappy today. I would gladly trade my phone and house for a happy life on a farm, if I didn't know what a phone was I couldn't wish I had one

[@Frozo-nt2ky]

@@pixel6698 “happy life on a farm?” Do you even know what industrialization did? It brought us modern medicine first of all. If you’ve ever had an infection in your life you can thank the Industrial Revolution for that. I can assume you have a nice life with a roof over your head and a good intake of food. Good luck getting that in the late 1600s. Not only that but slavery was rampant and you may very well have been sold off into another country to be tortured or forced to work.

[@pixel6698]

@@Frozo-nt2ky Yes I understand that a lot of good came with the Industrial revolution, however I believe it came far too quickly. The rapid development and industrialization has led to consequences the human race is still facing today. Colonialism and Imperialism was greatly pushed by the Industrial revolution and wars became insanely brutal because of it. Industrial Society is also a massive issue. Humans have been forced out of our natural communal groups into cities. We have gone from towns where everybody knew each other to massive cities where some don't even know their neighbors. It is one of the main reason people today are suffering from mental health issues. Industrialization is killing this planet. Trees are being cleared to make way for factories, plastic is ending up in the ocean, the air is being polluted, all to make a profit. Humans have a tendency to not think about long term consequences and I believe the Industrial Revolution has demonstrated this well.

[@Frozo-nt2ky]

@@pixel6698 don’t act like the world wasn’t brutal before industrialization. In fact right now is the safest time to be alive, apart from Covid bringing the number down a little bit. Lifespan has increased from 20-30 years old to nearly 80 in most developed countries. Prior to the revolution it was not uncommon for the mortality rate of newborn babies to be as high as 75%. You probably don’t grasp just how bad it was back then and how privileged you are to live in such a good world now. Of course you glossed over the whole slavery and racism part, which you really shouldn’t

[@mr.lello3339]

What if the Sino-Soviet Split never happened?

[@forgefathereli8354]

+Mr. Lello 333 Seriously can u imagine if modern russians knew, and acted like, they were just white mongols? In a way they do, they are simultaneously the smartest and the most militaristic "european" nation.

[@textence]

unabomber would love it

[@matthewcollins4764]

Would the mass trade of the Silk Road continue

[@crabus3757]

what if the Saxons won the battle of Hastings?

[@hellothere9407]

God I wish

[@UnauthorizedRosin]

I don't know why it only just now dawned on me, but those people in the videos animated, when having their default expression, look uncannily like an electrical socket. I can't look at them the same way now. They're sockets with bodies.

[@martinb532]

What if the AlternateHistoryHub channel Never existed?

[@akrybion]

World War 3

[@saudiprince6532]

Sorry list 25 but I think that Alternate History Hub is more solo narrator

[@radudracula7867]

Technically from the way I see it , the industrial revolution began since the dawn of time . The industrial revolution meant that technology became more advanced & beneficial needs , so technically we're still in a faze of the industrial revolution.

[@fezdalek]

If the Industrial Revolution never happened,there would be no dank memes,and there would be no reasons for me to exist.

[@ebonyaxe]

Born too late to explore the earth. Born too early to explore the galaxy. Born just in time to browsr dank memes.

[@Tcman95]

What if feminism never happened.

[@oblivionguard2286]

Everything would be Sparta probably

[@jiggabojanglez5595]

dragons' pride really depends on what type of feminism you're talking about. the first kind of feminism helped women get better jobs and allowed them to do things their male counterparts did (for example,vote). the next one is the "feminists" you see on KZbin wanting women to be the master gender and wanting men to be enslaved,which is feminazi.

[@jiggabojanglez5595]

but which one are you talking about,feminists or feminazi?🤔

[@Tcman95]

+Jigga BooJangles originally I would have just ment 2nd and 3rd wave feminism, Or Feminiazis as you put it. Reading through it, im not entirely convinced that the... I guess patriarchy was set up to keep women from voting. I think it was just set up to prop up a family structure over individual votes.

[@jiggabojanglez5595]

dragons' pride good point. I don't really believe it was cause of that. Although I think they believed in patriarchy because men we're usually seen as more dominant then women at the time. There were some other laws too,like only being limited to a few jobs and not allowed to hold office. Hell even I don't really believe feminism is very necessary these days,as females are allowed laws just as much as males. And especially how we are treated compared to our male counterparts.