What if the Jedi Trained Palpatine? Star Wars Legends Theory

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@aohdan5713
@aohdan5713 5 жыл бұрын
Jedi: no we don’t want him, I can smell the dark side on him Sith: we don’t care if you were a Jedi your whole life, welcome aboard.
@Tsukasa829
@Tsukasa829 5 жыл бұрын
Thank the force I'm not the only person getting recommended years old videos
@corndog5227
@corndog5227 4 жыл бұрын
Tsukasa829 ur one of many
@timur5241
@timur5241 4 жыл бұрын
@James Remus logic
@nihilodiem9591
@nihilodiem9591 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, the Sith have a small selection of viable candidates while the Jedi have always had the ability to kidnap kids.
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 4 жыл бұрын
@@nihilodiem9591 Abduction: works everytime.
@chancellorpalpatine6898
@chancellorpalpatine6898 7 жыл бұрын
It’s not a story the sith would tell you...
@wiktorweinreb-osiecki8870
@wiktorweinreb-osiecki8870 5 жыл бұрын
have you ever heard the tragedy of master yoda the wise ? it's not a story the sith will tell you. Its a jedi legend. Master yoda was one of if not the most powerful jedi in the galaxy. he could manipulate the midichlorians around him to the extent that he could even controll ones force powers. he studied this so much that he could conroll anyone around him. he tought all his knowledge to his young padawan. unfortunately for him one day on the jedi council his padawan used this power to controll him and make him leave the council making his padawan the grand master and then he was never seen again. he was so overcome with seeking to have the power to controll others force to the point he wasn't able to controll his. huh ironic...
@enclavemarine5254
@enclavemarine5254 5 жыл бұрын
Chancellor Palpatine exactly
@f.s.1400
@f.s.1400 4 жыл бұрын
Hey..you are back
@robos3809
@robos3809 4 жыл бұрын
And you would not be the Senate
@darthsidious8703
@darthsidious8703 4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't old friend
@krel7160
@krel7160 7 жыл бұрын
What if (in this theoretical for palpatine being trained), instead of trying to go for politics and "splintering" the jedi.. Palaptine used his innate desire for control to rise through the ranks of the order, eventually reaching master and rivalling Yoda on the jedi council due to his capability of persuasion and sheer power in the force. Then, using this power to make the council closer to gray jedi (thus allowing him to use his natural affinity for the dark side while also remaining "Good" in the eyes of the order) using an arguement sort of like "A knife in the hand of a doctor can save lives, but in the hands of a serial killer can end them, so why should we shoot ourselves in the foot by not using what is available?". The end result being that either the order splits with "Palpatinian" jedi, and the traditionalist jedi, OR the order listens to his remarks and eventually (possibly reluctantly agrees). This would then mean that, as the jedi became even more powerful in both the light and dark sides of the force, so too would Palpatine, and he would be regarded as the hero who saved the republic from splitting apart by sparking a change in the jedi order that no other person could've?
@JakubNaceradsky
@JakubNaceradsky 6 жыл бұрын
And too form a Empire of Jedis intead a corrupt republic sickness? :D
@suntzu6468
@suntzu6468 6 жыл бұрын
I like this more than star wars theory’s version.
@Michaeljack81sk
@Michaeljack81sk 5 жыл бұрын
So he would have brought Balance to the force...
@DoubleBoost23
@DoubleBoost23 5 жыл бұрын
@@Michaeljack81sk Under false-ish pretences but yes
@wiktorweinreb-osiecki8870
@wiktorweinreb-osiecki8870 5 жыл бұрын
have you ever heard the tragedy of master yoda the wise ? it's not a story the sith will tell you. Its a jedi legend. Master yoda was one of if not the most powerful jedi in the galaxy. he could manipulate the midichlorians around him to the extent that he could even controll ones force powers. he studied this so much that he could conroll anyone around him. he tought all his knowledge to his young padawan. unfortunately for him one day on the jedi council his padawan used this power to controll him and make him leave the council making his padawan the grand master and then he was never seen again. he was so overcome with seeking to have the power to controll others force to the point he wasn't able to controll his. huh ironic...
@darthvader4594
@darthvader4594 7 жыл бұрын
Then he would say "i am the jedi order"!
@flynnstone3133
@flynnstone3133 7 жыл бұрын
Not yet
@theresnothinghereatall
@theresnothinghereatall 7 жыл бұрын
It's treason then
@maxday2036
@maxday2036 7 жыл бұрын
The Jedi will decide your fate
@Julian-pw5mv
@Julian-pw5mv 7 жыл бұрын
The MaximusD unlimited power!!!
@TheSuperCanucks
@TheSuperCanucks 7 жыл бұрын
"I am the Council" sounds a lot better
@flynnstone3133
@flynnstone3133 7 жыл бұрын
My emperor.... A Jedi? What a novel idea...
@juice5951
@juice5951 7 жыл бұрын
Greetings Grand admiral
@SpaceCase1214
@SpaceCase1214 7 жыл бұрын
Well, stranger things have happened.
@thedarkknight727
@thedarkknight727 7 жыл бұрын
Grand Admiral Thrawn: Sometimes I wish that you could have been a perfect supreme chancellor for the New Republic, you a good man Thrawn but you fight for the wrong side. George Lucas even said that the Empire are EVIL... Only because some of the they are good dosent make them good. 😏
@thedarkknight727
@thedarkknight727 7 жыл бұрын
Grand Admiral Thrawn: I would have love to see you get betrayed by the Empire, and later then you get save by Rebels and convinced you to join the Rebellion, to see you as a Rebel Grand Admiral, could have been awesome. 😏
@andyb1653
@andyb1653 7 жыл бұрын
Your career would have been even more epic. And fewer Bothans would have died.
@memoriam1868
@memoriam1868 7 жыл бұрын
That swkotor music, the nostalgia.
@theevildrummingsithlord1492
@theevildrummingsithlord1492 7 жыл бұрын
YES!! I noticed that too!
@maximus6844
@maximus6844 5 жыл бұрын
Regardless if Revan is in Legends or Canon, I’ll never forget his story.
@emperorholocron8278
@emperorholocron8278 4 жыл бұрын
Emeritus IV this comment aged well
@joshualocklear6284
@joshualocklear6284 4 жыл бұрын
@@maximus6844 or meetra's
@astrolinn
@astrolinn 4 жыл бұрын
I kept failing on korriban
@Zminator1986
@Zminator1986 7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Sidious joining with the Jedi Order. He would work his way to gain a position of power into the Council. Smooth talk the Council to train Anakin personally, which would make the young Skywalker embrace the Dark Side sooner. Discrediting the Order from within by framing the Jedi of crimes or corrupting Jedi into committing acts against the Republic. In fact, much like Revan's Sith Empire, Palpatine could influence a Jedi Civil War.
@GalaxyDogenut
@GalaxyDogenut 3 жыл бұрын
Genius.
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 7 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of my most favorite What If SWs scenarios thanks so much for making it Eck!!!! :)
@darthvader4594
@darthvader4594 7 жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker the 2nd did you listen to the spoilers?
@ESFNinja
@ESFNinja 7 жыл бұрын
“UNLIMITED POWER!!!”
@king0vdarkness
@king0vdarkness 7 жыл бұрын
I was about to post the same! XD
@IronWarhorsesFun
@IronWarhorsesFun 7 жыл бұрын
It's NOT treason then?!
@IronWarhorsesFun
@IronWarhorsesFun 7 жыл бұрын
THE TIME HAS COME EXECUTE ORDER 66, NO WAIT SHIT I AM A JEDI NOW! CANCEL THA, PEWPEWPEW....
@jamesleduke873
@jamesleduke873 5 жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to how young Palpatine is when the Jedi discover him in this scenario. If he grows up only knowing the teachings of the Jedi, I don't think he's going to be as susceptible to falling to the dark side.
@Louthanjen
@Louthanjen 7 жыл бұрын
then he would not be the sentete
@IronWarhorsesFun
@IronWarhorsesFun 7 жыл бұрын
HE WOULD BE THE COUNCIL!
@nathanstewart4121
@nathanstewart4121 5 жыл бұрын
Your profile makes this so much better
@thedynamicdoggo4155
@thedynamicdoggo4155 5 жыл бұрын
Sentete?
@aaronwood43
@aaronwood43 4 жыл бұрын
The Council will decide your fate I AM THE COUNCIL
@Scott079
@Scott079 7 жыл бұрын
I think Yoda would've recognized the darkness in him immediately, and refused to let him be trained as of Jedi and recommended that he had an accident
@dihoxide
@dihoxide 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Pochini I disagree, that goes against Yoda's way. Especially before the end of the clone wars.
@bird_grease9288
@bird_grease9288 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Pochini Yoda wouldn't do that. However, a mysterious cloaked figure could approach... a specialist. Said specialist could arrange said accident. No one would need to know.
@francovaldez1289
@francovaldez1289 7 жыл бұрын
Yoda's Mafia
@nathanzhao1219
@nathanzhao1219 7 жыл бұрын
ComradeVlad just hire Jango Fett
@ShadowWolfRising
@ShadowWolfRising 6 жыл бұрын
One of the Jedi Shadows probably would have done it.
@StegoAqua
@StegoAqua 5 жыл бұрын
Jedi Council: Oh my this kid is so evil Mace Windu: *Activates lightsaber* What kid?
@iam_darthk
@iam_darthk 7 жыл бұрын
4:20 That's not how evil works, even in Star Wars. An episode of TCW has the "fortune cookie" saying: "Evil is not born, it is taught."
@whocares435-z9v
@whocares435-z9v 4 жыл бұрын
Congenital mental abnormalities are a thing, in Star Wars and real life.
@MadChristoph
@MadChristoph 2 жыл бұрын
@@whocares435-z9v so with Hitler as well?
@Knightwolf1994
@Knightwolf1994 Жыл бұрын
​@@MadChristoph Hitler was that and abusive parenting.
@Skimmerlit
@Skimmerlit 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad your "what ifs" are scenarios and not fanfictions
@casmsfrought9956
@casmsfrought9956 5 жыл бұрын
Im just curious here but Is that bad?
@OdinPlays94
@OdinPlays94 5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the novel explains that Palpatine was just naturally a psychopath. He enjoyed causing pain. But he was also very charismatic. He is basically Ted Bundy.
@darthkenobi6726
@darthkenobi6726 3 жыл бұрын
Psychopaths don't enjoy pain, they lack the euphoria to be able to take emotional pleasure. However he might be a sociopath.
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 2 жыл бұрын
Not all psychopaths become criminals, even if they're more likely than neurotypicals
@OdinPlays94
@OdinPlays94 2 жыл бұрын
For clarification, a person who could take the lives of their family with no remorse for what they had done wrong would very much make them a psychopath. Sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies often go hand in hand when it comes to mass murderers.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 2 жыл бұрын
Some people are unfortunately born with the inability to feel empathy, at least. It’s honestly quite sad. But I personally believe the Jedi can save younglings from that darkness. After all, they have Ki Adi Mundi, who discarded his emotions altogether over trying to master them.
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days 2 жыл бұрын
@@OdinPlays94 I mean, Sheev’s father did tell him he wished he wasn’t born or something. He was kinda an ass, too
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 7 жыл бұрын
I really want to see a what if the empire never built the death star and hadn’t used the tarkin docturite
@skypeon4555
@skypeon4555 7 жыл бұрын
A better fighting force against the Rebellion. Maybe use of X-Wings?...Thrawn would definitely be happier though.
@InvictusMatrix
@InvictusMatrix 7 жыл бұрын
More Star Destroyers and SSDs
@skypeon4555
@skypeon4555 7 жыл бұрын
+TheMatrixGamers There probably would be the same number of SSD's as they are actually effective in FLEET combat, but ISD's would most likely be reduced in number. Not replaced though, they would still be great in a war. We would be seeing far more support ships though.
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 7 жыл бұрын
Skypeon plus in a personal opinion a way less organized rebellion at that because the Death Star unified all the rebel cells
@skypeon4555
@skypeon4555 7 жыл бұрын
+SkySlasher Good point.
@doomslayer2263
@doomslayer2263 4 жыл бұрын
Senators walk in: in the name of the jedi council you are under arrest. Palpatine: are you threatening me Senator. Senator: the Council will decide your fate. Palpatine: *I AM THE JEDI COUNCIL*
@Inferno-hz6xi
@Inferno-hz6xi 7 жыл бұрын
Please continue with the legends theory and lore videos there absolutely amazing
@kenny1197
@kenny1197 4 жыл бұрын
"and of what possible use do you think a person of your nature would be to the Jedi order? You're heartless, ambitious, arrogant, insidious and without shame or empathy. More; you're a murderer". - Darth Plagueis when prompted by Palpatine about this exact prospect.
@Arauto_Kagnos
@Arauto_Kagnos 7 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the Jedi Order would be able to sway Palpatine from the Dark Side. I do think he would be able to hide it and pretend to be a servant of the light, I think that he might cause another schism within the Jedi order possibly leading to a similar situation like The New Sith wars or the hundred-year darkness.
@theplayasclub5948
@theplayasclub5948 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought, he most likely would gather a mass following in the Order and convince many Jedi to turn against the Council because they "turned" to the Dark side and effectively start a New Jedi Civil War.
@Tracer_Krieg
@Tracer_Krieg 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Palpatine was a Sociopath. He murders people without remorse, he has no conscience, he's able to blend in almost effortlessly among long stretch of different people including Jedi and even seems to able to adjust his personality on the fly depending on the situation. This last part is very important as it distinguishes him from a Psychopath. A Psychopath is similar to a Sociopath except on one point: a Psychopath cannot adapt and will make the same mistakes over and over as emotionally they are unable to change themselves. A Sociopath is like an emotional chameleon.
@iamdream2562
@iamdream2562 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Stellar No, you are wrong, psychopaths and sociopaths are not so easily quantified. Sociopaths however, are the more cunning of the two, psychopaths, as far as I know, have a lack of emotional control for example. Sociopaths lack empathy.
@Jokemeb
@Jokemeb 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamdream2562 You and J Sailor are the ones who are wrong actually. Neither psychopaths nor sociopaths possess empathy, nor remorse. However, the condition of psychopaths is definitely much more extreme than that of sociopaths. Psychopaths can blend in everyday situations much better and are far more calculating and charming than sociopaths who are impulsive, less organized, easily agitated and don't think things through like psychopaths. You can find more information about it here: www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/psychopath-vs-sociopath-what-s-the-difference
@proton8689
@proton8689 5 жыл бұрын
Psychopath. Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. But regardless it's AntiSocial Personality Disorder
@malifor00
@malifor00 5 жыл бұрын
You're all wrong. It's actually supercalafragilisticexpialidociopaths.
@ernestocortez5820
@ernestocortez5820 5 жыл бұрын
If he was born with evil then he was a physcopath I like how people think sociopath sounds way better
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 7 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt starfury from Babylon 5 vs the Sabre from Halo Reach.
@pubcle
@pubcle 7 жыл бұрын
Evil is just a label we put on those who threaten us ~ Chancellor Palpatine
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 6 жыл бұрын
I agree he'd always be heavily influenced by the Dark Side. If he were to be trained, he'd be assigned to a master who's very experienced with such cases, perhaps even Yoda himself, and even then he'd still be hard to manage. However, it would probably take Plagieus to turn him entirely at this point, since Sheev would be indoctrinated with the Jedi code from a young age. Without Plagieus he'd still most likely leave the order, but he'd at least have the mindset that he can get what he wants by helping people on occasion. As such, if you take Plagieus out of the equation, we'd probably end up with a Palpatine who got himself cut a check. He'd still be ambitious and power-hungry, but he'd likely be less of a jerk. An empire ruled by former Jedi Palpatine as opposed to Sith Palpatine would still be extremely authoritarian but somewhat more humanitarian in nature. This empire would be ruled through a cult of personality, with Palpatine taking on a sort of "good guy" public persona while still being ultimately devoted to UNLIMITED POWER, rather than through fear. This would actually make things harder for the rebellion - instead of being seen as freedom fighters by anyone who wasn't completely taken by imperial propaganda, they'd be seen as terrorists and anarchists attempting to destroy the peace and order of the Empire by pretty much all but the most disloyal imperial subjects. And as such, fewer people would be willing to join the Alliance to Restore the Republic.
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine's a sociopath, but even most sociopaths aren't criminals. They're more likely to become criminals yes, but they can also become successful cooks
@sokar2343
@sokar2343 Жыл бұрын
Yayyyy! 😺
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru
@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru 11 ай бұрын
​@@redjirachi1Or highly successful businessmen or politicians
@daklr2501
@daklr2501 7 жыл бұрын
whoa you're using completely different music there!
@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer
@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer 7 жыл бұрын
kotor soundtrack
@jeffreyhinzmann945
@jeffreyhinzmann945 7 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the track? I'm losing my mind trying to find it.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 7 жыл бұрын
What If Palpatine Was Taking A Shower When The Jedi Came For His Arrest?
@NirateGoel
@NirateGoel 5 жыл бұрын
Then anikin would have seen plaps naked....
@adumbynamedconor5173
@adumbynamedconor5173 5 жыл бұрын
“Master Windu.”
@DrArthurCGarp
@DrArthurCGarp 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Sidious bathes with at least 1 lightsaber nearby. Every Sith is afraid of death and Palpatine would've definitely been nervous since Maul, his first apprentice and best trained assassin, hated him so much more and had a habit of rising like a phoenix.
@imitationcrabmeat474
@imitationcrabmeat474 7 жыл бұрын
u are awesome keep rollin out the good vids
@hydrogenone4926
@hydrogenone4926 7 жыл бұрын
"I am the Senate." - P
@mattclaybaugh8578
@mattclaybaugh8578 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you really look into everything, as soon as I have a question its answered
@cocacola4blood365
@cocacola4blood365 6 жыл бұрын
8:04 Hell no! Once a sociopath, always a sociopath. One almost feels sorry for Darth Plagueis, having Al Palpatino as an apprentice.
@dropdead234
@dropdead234 6 жыл бұрын
Sith..."Look, that kid was messed up waaaay before I met him." Papa Palpy Did No Wrong!
@501ststormtrooper9
@501ststormtrooper9 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah, the Sith is right..
@darthsidious8596
@darthsidious8596 4 жыл бұрын
How would the Jedi react to an ex-Jedi running for Chancellor, getting “emergency powers”,’ etc.?
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 7 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear the tragedy of YoloSwagMemeLord{THOT-DESTROYER} The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the mods would tell you. It’s a Lit legend. YoloSwagMemeLord{THOT-DESTROYER} was a Dank Lord of the Lit, so powerful and so wise he could use the memes to influence the mods to create bots and alt accounts… He had such a knowledge of the dank memes that he could even keep the ones he cared about from being banned. The dank side of the Memes is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his memes, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his fams everything he knew, then Ackbar the Almighty banned him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from ban, but not himself.
@hellothere5350
@hellothere5350 7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Van lol
@acekoala457
@acekoala457 7 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to learn such a power?
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 7 жыл бұрын
Unless he is unbanned we most likely will never know his secrets and they shall be lost to time
@somnius2519
@somnius2519 7 жыл бұрын
This is an abomination and I love it.
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 4 жыл бұрын
@@somnius2519 I'm to sorry for your loss Brethren.
@thedarkknight727
@thedarkknight727 7 жыл бұрын
Eckhartsladder: Can you do a video, of what if Thrawn join the Rebellion, PLEASE. ☺
@GabrielMcKnight
@GabrielMcKnight 7 жыл бұрын
This video is one of your better ones to be sure. Enjoyed the music too; didn't recognize the music score until some minutes into the video.
@lorcazoid5474
@lorcazoid5474 7 жыл бұрын
Love hearing Resonance in your videos, it's like a trademark at this point! Keep up the good work Ecks
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 7 жыл бұрын
Can Reach or Coruscant survive a Zerg invasion
@miscmilitaria8566
@miscmilitaria8566 7 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Kates Reach probably not Coruscant probably
@jamesrael9557
@jamesrael9557 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the implication in the Plagueis novel is that Palpatine may have been a sociopath. That's an interesting thread to follow within the SW universe.
@Kanati96
@Kanati96 7 жыл бұрын
You should do a "what if" on what if Palpatine was born in the time of the old republic. Like a new player starting an inquisitor in the SWTOR MMO but its Palpatine. Love it see what he'd do to the galaxy with a full sith presence.
@ratshitstrap8622
@ratshitstrap8622 7 жыл бұрын
You fool, I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Jedi!
@guilty_mulburry5903
@guilty_mulburry5903 7 жыл бұрын
Early. High ground achieved. Eternal sand shield activated
@sethwalton2686
@sethwalton2686 7 жыл бұрын
A good video I’ve never seen before, covering sith who turned to the lghtside rather than Jedi who became sith, and why it was much more rare or if it ever occurred and when. Seems like an interesting topic for you to delve into
@poisonousvictory8622
@poisonousvictory8622 5 жыл бұрын
Palpatine was never really palpatine. He was sidious first and always. Palpatine was more his persona because he was literally the embodiment of the dark side of the force
@thequietshodan
@thequietshodan 7 жыл бұрын
Man keep it up. I like hearing everyone's what if scenarios.
@129das
@129das 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think he ever be a master. Unless that was the new plan. But even so it is hard enough to mask the dark side of the force in front of masters for a long period of time. If he was a master he have to be with them all the time. The likelihood he reaches master is very low. But he could reach Jedi Knight then leaving after taking Jedi with him simalar to what happened with revan.
@clausjensen5658
@clausjensen5658 7 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Eckhart still was hyped for the Last Jedi...
@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 5 жыл бұрын
Sociopathy can be treated, even managed. Palpatine wouldn't necessarily have turned out bad had the Jedi found him and had his darker inclinations treated. I don't buy the theory that he, or anyone, is inherently evil.
@edgaracajabon9522
@edgaracajabon9522 2 жыл бұрын
If your proud deceitful greedy ambitious selfish hateful and the kind that treat others like less than you. No one can teach you otherwise. You are inherently evil. It's like when a person likes to drink a lot there's nothing you can do to want to change. The change has to come from within. No one can make you do anything. You can't be forced not to be drunk with power. It has to come from you and you alone. If you're not all those things than you can be encouraged to be otherwise. It's like people these days that like to convince someone that weed is not bad. It is bad if misused or used as a vice just like smoking tobacco is but no one can convince you of that unless you get sick and die or realize on your own that it is, but no one can make you see that unless you see that for yourself
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgaracajabon9522 So, are we just pretending that you can't be medicated for sociopathy? Because you can my dude, they have medication for that.
@edgaracajabon9522
@edgaracajabon9522 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonofSethoitae I'm not taking about medication. I'm taking about how we really are. You gonna medicate somebody for having these feelings? They're not a disease. It's part of personality. It's not needed to be medicated. You just have to realize the error of your ways. What are you gonna do medicate yourself for every negative thing in the world? That's dumb. If you are your just dumb. You just have to change without the need for medication. You're not suffering from a brain disorder. It's just how people are. Unless you want to equate all of these negative feelings with craziness all of the time but that's not always the case. Some people change. Some people are like this because it's how the grew up to be because of past experiences. Some are just plain dark. Nothing changes them especially not some temporary sedative such as drugs. I'm not even taking about the part about sociopathy. I'm talking about how people are the way they are that has nothing to do with being a sociopath. Sociopaths are people with no feelings most of the time. Who don't care what they do and don't care about others people's feelings because they have no empathy or compassion. This doesn't always apply to everybody.
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgaracajabon9522 Yes, but I said sociopathy can be treated. Which it can. With medication. Edit: it is 100% necessary to be medicated for some things. 100% necessary. Full stop.
@edgaracajabon9522
@edgaracajabon9522 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonofSethoitae So medication is the answer to everything. Then ever crazy person in the world has to walk around like some medicated zombie. Because most of the world has some psychopathic tendency in them. And those who are ambitious greedy and evil are not going to take medication. They will refuse like so many people do who have everyone think the doctors the health professionals and they're not.
@demigod5219
@demigod5219 5 жыл бұрын
His father would’ve refused most likely & Plagueis would’ve chosen someone else or managed to manipulate him into being a Sith somehow like how Anakin was manipulated by Palpatine
@blairjohnson5833
@blairjohnson5833 7 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k Eck ive been around since your new republic collapse video
@EpaminondastheGreat
@EpaminondastheGreat 7 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me the name of the music used? It can be a great...asset. Can it be done?
@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 7 жыл бұрын
It's various tracks from KOTOR
@IronWarhorsesFun
@IronWarhorsesFun 7 жыл бұрын
BUT YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THE CHOSEN ONE! INSTEAD YOU LET THAT WINEY B@#CH ANAKIN DO IT!
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 6 жыл бұрын
Emperor Palpatine it will join us or die, Master
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 7 жыл бұрын
Blacklight Virus vs The Flood
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 7 жыл бұрын
73rd try
@Mayordomo32
@Mayordomo32 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the dark lord of the sith was also a Jedi master. How insane would that be?
@ProleWaifu
@ProleWaifu 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Jedi would just reject Palpatine and then never trust him if he became chancellor, their would also be a good chance that he just wouldn't become chancellor at this point and the entire events of the movies would be prevented.
@guillermosulvale8620
@guillermosulvale8620 7 жыл бұрын
So it sounds like Palpatine would have created a sith army (or at least corrupted the order) if he was taken and trained by the Jedi.
@andrewtang3719
@andrewtang3719 7 жыл бұрын
Your vids and theories are amazinggg!! More mass effect plzz
@teeheeimtrans
@teeheeimtrans 7 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the music choice. A good theory and a good video!
@DarkNova50
@DarkNova50 5 жыл бұрын
I think it might have been possible to steer ol' Sheev away from being a full-blown bad guy, but I don't know if the Jedi would have taken the steps necessary. They have a distressing habit of taking Force sensitives that don't fit the criteria for Jedi training and just shooing them away. Instead, if they had masters that could train Jedi that harnessed their inner darkness, but applied it towards more benevolent ends, then we might have wound up with more figures like Mace Windu.
@kamrudjacobson4438
@kamrudjacobson4438 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt they have kept an eye on him at least even if they didnt take him on? I mean if you find baby hitler you dont just say that your not gonna teach him public speaking. Also I seem to recall that Bane specificially said that it was undesirable to take a Jedi as an apprentice due to their pension for turning back to their old ways and potentially revealing the Sith before the plan was complete. Once you are trained as a Jedi its just to easy for you to fall back into that path.
@Gerickmb
@Gerickmb 5 жыл бұрын
The intro music alone is more than enough for a like I love that song!!
@norad_clips
@norad_clips 7 жыл бұрын
I think if he was located by the Jedi at a young age but rejected because of the darkness sensed in him, the Jedi would have been 1000% more on guard and proactive in working against him if he were to appear on the galactic scene again. Not saying he couldn’t still find a way to topple the Republic and Jedi, but he would’ve had an immensely more difficult time working only from the outside.
@lachlanbold8319
@lachlanbold8319 4 жыл бұрын
The Jedi might have cut off his connection to the Force.
@vesalore696
@vesalore696 2 жыл бұрын
Just like Ulic Qel Droma
@LoveShaysloco
@LoveShaysloco 7 жыл бұрын
if the order didn't train him could they have used sever force on him to block what little power he had as a child and prevent him from ever using force powers and how it would effect the future if he could of broke its effect
@lastgamer64
@lastgamer64 7 жыл бұрын
Palpatine (light): The light side will Defeat the dark side!!! Palpatine(dark): NO NO UNLIMITED POWER!!!
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most interesting what if videos i've seen.
@Juliano4425
@Juliano4425 5 жыл бұрын
Love your old republic music!
@sarahcook2818
@sarahcook2818 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah… Palpatine never struck me as ‘pure evil’, at least not the legends version. In Plaguies he came across as more of a spoiled rich kid, who didn’t need to worry about the consequences of his actions.
@thegameknight8916
@thegameknight8916 4 жыл бұрын
This does bring up a possible hypothetical, though: What if the Jedi COULD turn him into a force of good? What if they were able to get him to abandon the Dark Side?
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 2 жыл бұрын
If his narcissistic father wasn't in the story it'd certainly improve him. Cosinga is just Sheev if he was a petty jerk instead of Space Satan
@alemirdikson
@alemirdikson 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think you -can- overstate just how evil Sheev-O really is. Dude would roast a puppy just for kicks. Dude's the bully and the Galaxy is his anthill.
@endergamer496
@endergamer496 5 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: *relentless dark side energy output* Yoda: fucking christ fix this we must
@emperornapoleon6204
@emperornapoleon6204 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Darth Plagueis = unrivaled reading material.
@thesilentguardian3243
@thesilentguardian3243 7 жыл бұрын
Great Job ECK Bravo
@Commanderhurtz1
@Commanderhurtz1 7 жыл бұрын
Good video! I do wish we would see a theory where Palpatine could potentially be good and maybe be a Sith or Jedi still in the theory. I've contemplated making my own variant of the theory, don't think I know enough yet though.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who had this idea.
@jeremyho6139
@jeremyho6139 7 жыл бұрын
But the Jedi would have known that Palpatine was force sensitive,this would change everything.
@infoluminux
@infoluminux 7 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't be the senate... he would be *the council*
@deangentry5080
@deangentry5080 5 жыл бұрын
Was Master Yarel Poof any good with a lightsabre? It seems like he would be really easy to beat in a duel.
@kwarrior2895
@kwarrior2895 5 жыл бұрын
Fart on him and he will die.
@monkey9208
@monkey9208 7 жыл бұрын
I am Senate
@JakubNaceradsky
@JakubNaceradsky 6 жыл бұрын
And Jedi order! (Palpatine Jedi Master version, Ultimate ) :D
@cc0767
@cc0767 5 жыл бұрын
5:20 one of my favourite parts of SW OST.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ 7 жыл бұрын
Could u explain hyper space lanes
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 7 жыл бұрын
Behemoth Battlecruiser vs Venator Star Destroyer
@beastilos213
@beastilos213 5 жыл бұрын
I think its possible maybe that if they found palpatine when he was young and impressionable enough that he could maybe be good or at least far less evil. Maybe palpatine just needs to make a friend on the light side like if he was trained by Yoda or master yaddle or the whole council mentor and train him maybe that would be enough. Honestly probably not
@TheTransforcer
@TheTransforcer 7 жыл бұрын
I think if the Jedi council found palpatine when he was a boy, they would not have trained him. But if his path continued as it originally had, then when he rose to power, then the council MIGHT have recognized or sensed his intentions more so and maybe been able to prevent it. Even with his ability to mask his dark side, if the Jedi council knew of his POTENTIAL powers and dark side tendencies, then they probably would have had an easier time being tipped off about his trying to usurp them and take control.
@MrSedsone
@MrSedsone 7 жыл бұрын
What if... 1) Obi-Wan somehow managed to get Kaminoans to clone Anakin (Perfect clone like starkiller from second game) and the clone live with Luke and Lars? 2) Darth Vader cloned / trained himself as his secret apprentice, aka starkiller?
@fanta4897
@fanta4897 7 жыл бұрын
Could they cut off his connection to the Force(if memory serves me right Jedi Order already did it with Meetra Surik)?
@jonathanpirolo3996
@jonathanpirolo3996 7 жыл бұрын
another great video
@nicolaskeegan9763
@nicolaskeegan9763 7 жыл бұрын
Love the new music.
@jkwatcher47
@jkwatcher47 5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Palpatine corrupting the Jedi from within. I thought, too, if having lived with the Jedi if he would have rejected the Rule of 2 and really splintered the Jedi into a new Sith order. One problem I have is the idea that Palpatine was inherently evil. The Bane novels did the same thing, where he was just naturally evil and connected to the Dark Side of the Force. One of the themes of the original trilogy is Luke having to choose between the light and dark paths and how Anakin was able to choose the light path after traveling down the dark path for a while. To make a character born evil or born with a connection to the dark side take away that choice. Now if there is a story out there where someone is born with a strong connection to the dark side and yet chooses light and is a Jedi and a hero... I'd actually like to see that story! We have the story of Anakin being born with a strong connection to the Force and choosing darkness. I want to see it the other way around now! (if one subscribes to the theory that the light and dark side are two sides of the same coin.... but that's another discussion)
@ziephel-6780
@ziephel-6780 2 жыл бұрын
I agree: having someone as monstrous in personality like Palpatine, but still somehow is able to turn to the light side, if they were able to see how much the dark side would cost them dearly, so they selfishly choose the light side out of desire for self-preservation, or actually did so for a selfless reason as opposed to Anakin's reason for turning to the dark side. Someone who is deep down, evil as fuck in their thoughts, but they don't harm anybody, and managing to keep their true nature hidden, but not for the nefarious means of taking over the galaxy but out of self-preservation and desire to be left alone
@StormWolfJachinDue
@StormWolfJachinDue 7 жыл бұрын
You should check out Stupendous Wave. He did this video idea quite some time ago.
@milkmanmcgee3657
@milkmanmcgee3657 7 жыл бұрын
Really love the video, btw, the KOTOR soundtrack tho...
@dehaka1156
@dehaka1156 7 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I got a very good question what if general grievous found out it was the CIS that plant the bomb on his ship or that there's a chip to keep him in a rage and short thinking?
@TheMindRobber42
@TheMindRobber42 7 жыл бұрын
That scene where he kills all the Jedi Masters pisses me off. I get that he could kill them all at once, but they cut that fight sooooo short. It could have awesome, but nope, that horned guy, Saese Tin (probably not right), and Kit Fisto all get killed in ten seconds.
@jamesrobinson7530
@jamesrobinson7530 6 жыл бұрын
i like how your using the music from SWOTORs OST its very befitting
@somegoofballwhohasinternet7313
@somegoofballwhohasinternet7313 7 жыл бұрын
Something I’ve really wanted to know for a while now is who would win in an all out galactic war, The Cabal empire from Destiny 2 or The Imperium empire from Warhammer 40k
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 7 жыл бұрын
WOW this video was awesome!!!
@danielawesome36
@danielawesome36 4 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: "I am the Council." Mace: "...." Palps: "...." Mace: "...Fair point." *_DIRECTED BY GEORGE LUCAS_*
@ADRMajestic12
@ADRMajestic12 5 жыл бұрын
well..........every point to you covered i was ready to make but i do feel that if the jedi did sense the darkness in him they would not simply let him go without constantly watching him or if they did train him then only give him so much information, keep him at arms length
@AzzyBoy
@AzzyBoy 7 жыл бұрын
Ccs class battle cruiser vs imperial star destroyer or mc80 home one cruiser 80th try!!!
@100_American_Bison
@100_American_Bison 7 жыл бұрын
Spartans (Halo) vs N7 (Mass Effect) and UNSC Marines (Halo) vs System Alliance Marines (Mass Effect)
@Ahriman13
@Ahriman13 7 жыл бұрын
if it's the orion ones the N7s have a chance any other they are more than likely going to lose.
@ziephel-6780
@ziephel-6780 2 жыл бұрын
Basically like: give people what they want, through the light side, and they will put you on a pedestal of power. This version of Palpatine may disagree with the Jedi philosophy, but is capable of seeing some of the benefits the light side offers, whilst seeing how destructive the dark side is. Thus having the wisdom to use light side orientated methods, and use the dark and light as both tools to obtain immense power for himself, but also uplift others that help rose him higher as either Supreme Chancellor or Emperor. Although a personality as extreme as Palpatine's, he wouldn't follow the Force and let it guide his actions, because he sees that as foreign to him. Thus, the prophecy would still need to happen, except in a different way.
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