What If The Middle East's Borders Were Redrawn?

[@MonsieurDean]

I would just reestablish Rome if I could.

[@IVBW-by8lf]

Ok

[@TheRatOnFire_]

Roma Invicta, Roma Aeterna

[@PrussianGeneral1815]

Viva Roma. Lunga vita a Roma! Roma è per sempre!

[@msmith1890]

There was once a dream. A dream called Rome.

[@familygash7500]

I think that some Italian guy wearing a fez actually tried to do that, once. He didn't see much success, though.

[@diegoyanesholtz212]

Africa has a poorly drawn border too you should do that continent next.

[@GotMyTowel42]

there was a map on Reddit that did that, it was very detailed

[@MjukCheese]

@@GotMyTowel42 whats it called might wanna check it out

[@GotMyTowel42]

@@MjukCheese the only one I've found so far is "Map of Ethnicities in Africa [OC]" by ChocolateInTheWinter I really can't recall the one I thought of, but there's a chance this one is actually the one I thought of edit: the other maps with seemingly more "countries" aren't ethnic, but tribal edit2: there's also "Extremely detailed map of Africa's languages [2429 x 2969]"

[@MjukCheese]

@@GotMyTowel42 thanks imma look at them

[@GotMyTowel42]

@@MjukCheese np man

[@Dougplugthugspicyfriedchicken]

Britain and France should go back and redraw the Middle East’s borders since they’re the ones who made them

[@MonsieurDean]

Second times the charm, ey?

[@1650th]

I don't want radioactive sand thank you very much

[@JAKE-em5xr]

You never let a british draw a map they wont do it good second time either

[@TheRealVenom448]

If you mean via nuke, then the sand would turn into glass.​@@1650th

[@TheTrex9000]

No, don't ever let Britain cook again

[@CMVBrielman]

7:20 You do know Jordan tried *exactly* that, right? And for their trouble, a Palestinian assassinated their king.

[@MonsieurDean]

Damn

[@Kolateak_]

And then Palestinians tried to do it _again_

[@Chr0n0s38]

​@@MonsieurDean Palestinians are fiercely anti-monarchy. The only solution would be to force Israel to treat them all as first class citizens, though due to how many Palestinians there are the result would be the end of the idea of Israel as a Jewish state.

[@familygash7500]

They straight up tried to overthrow The Hashmites in a civil war known as: 'Black September'. Why they did that, I have no idea.

[@Adir-Yosef]

@@MonsieurDean this is not the only problem with the map either, Saudi Arabia will just collapse, water problems will be plaguing everyone but Israel who's already been dealing with that by desalinization, Israel and U.A.R border disputes over the Christians and the Golan, the entire future of the region depending on weather the Persians people would decide their own fate or would remain as an Islamic theocracy (because one thing that's suppose to be VERY clear is how Shiite population are literally everywhere that's important and nowhere else!

[@Marcus-nn6js]

Well, this won't cause massive arguments in the comments.

[@MonsieurDean]

Monsieur Z in a Fez: “Haha! Now let the donkey and elephant fight for my amusement!”

[@Voomal123]

@@MonsieurDeanwhy didn’t I understand that 💀

[@Guacamoc]

@@Voomal123rep v democrat, elephant v donkey, Fez= little red hat associated with the near east and North Africa

[@Voomal123]

@@Guacamoc oh thx!!

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

I am a middle easterner , and i assure you this map is great , i would only like to change 2 things : 1- and independent hijazi state under the less radical hashemites 2 ( this is more personal ) - the small shiite state under syrian protection be either independent or under iranian protection ( it does have the power to stand up to syria since it stood up to israel in our timeline )

[@Jose-cy7od]

I like apple juice.

[@kayseek1248]

I prefer apple & mango

[@korotan658]

I don't like the juice

[@jolly-rancher]

apple juice sucks

[@MonsieurDean]

Why not papaya?

[@americanuscaesar]

I like cranberry juice

[@easternhistorian4763]

Make it all Cyprus, the Kingdom of Cyprus needs to extend to Greece, Armenia Cilicia and all of the levant.

[@sarantis1995]

Richard the Lion heart, first king of Cyprus xD

[@MauveBruv]

no the fuck it shouldn't, because lebanon and cyprus will controlled the world

[@W3ap0n1zedAut1sm]

Waiting for all the Greeks to start flipping out that they are included in this lol

[@johncalabria1607]

It’s understandable because of Cyprus being involved. I don’t think anyone misinterpreted this video as saying Greeks are middle eastern

[@sarantis1995]

I was puzzled when I saw my country on the middle east map but then again when it came to Cyprus, as a direct extension of Turkey's territorial claims, it makes sense. The Greece (incl Cyprus) - Judeojordan - UAR - Egypt axis would be a very formidable force in the region of East Mes though. The proposed borders look nice from an objective perspective but Turkey comes out as a "big loser" and only in 1920 would such an arrangement have worked.

[@mastrey]

​@@sarantis1995 i feel that the economic crisis in turkey have the potential capacity to force turkey to accept some type of kurdistan estate The Chipre situation can be more dificult because the population of ilegal occupands is growing A potential solution will be a ecconomic incentive to remove non-locals from east chipre to a more comfortable levels before any type of fusion with Chipre were the Fusion with Grece will be posible I also feel that Middle East have 5 Regional powers Iran Saudis Egypt Turkey and Israel and maybe a improve bersion of the map needs to include the full caucasus region

[@assasine08]

Not did they only "lose" land but imagine how bad turkey would try to escalate the problem of sea borders with Greece if that is today already a big issue.

[@olbiomoiros]

@@johncalabria1607 Even if that were so. There were Greeks in Anatolia, the Levant, and Egypt. It’s not like Greeks are completely detached from the Middle East. We have a historical connection. Not to mention how Cyprus is literally in the Middle East.

[@Zaabi]

Not gonna lie the map was definitely made by people who ether never lived in Arabia or people who don’t know the Middle East- this is cursed

[@adamnesico]

Any frontiers would be cursed. What would you draw instead?

[@Zaabi]

@@adamnesico the Arabian peninsula, merging the Arabian cost states into the uae plus South Yemen including the Hormuz and Qashem islands

[@friendlyreminder3280]

I live in the middle east and this seems pretty good

[@Zaabi]

@@friendlyreminder3280living in the Middle East and being from the Middle East are two different things. And my point was that Arabias borders make zero sense

[@pizzat1me788]

@@friendlyreminder3280yeah ur def israeli bc no sane arab would ever see this as a good idea

[@End_Mii]

WRONG! Middle East is historical Albanian land! 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

[@Deridus]

Long live King Zog!

[@beastdork19]

Finally someone who gets who really owns the Middle East!!!

[@scorpionjaxxer339]

No. That’s stupid

[@Deridus]

@@scorpionjaxxer339 Yes, factually accurate.

[@scorpionjaxxer339]

@@Deridus Roman and Persia would be better. Rome rules west, Persia rules east (oversimplification). At least in a perfect world😅

[@DeanMonsieur]

Redraw intergalactic borders next. The Spug System has been unlawfully mining Zorback Gling Crystals for too long!

[@MonsieurDean]

This is a must!

[@TastefulGorilla]

Free Quasarstan.

[@TheTrex9000]

Please, we all know Kepler 32b rightfully owns all of the Cygnus Sector.

[@jameszog1018]

@@TheTrex9000 Kepler Imperialists! Vroxia forever!

[@Shark_boiiiii]

Vive la sirius

[@ColdHighway7]

How to fix the ME: Get the hell out of the region, eliminate foreign aid and the only money that goes there is through trade

[@kadenyt6623]

when money comes marching home again hara hara will give it a hearty welcome the hara hara!

[@legendtroll7501]

I'm gonna be real. I can understand 99% of the rest of the map. But please enlighten to me as to why major turkish cities in southern anatolia are given to Syria? Kurdish freedom? Understandable. Cyprus united with autonomy? Ok. But how do you justify giving actual majority turkish lands to Syria I am very curious. Even antioch, which Syria actually claims, is today majority turkish in basically every map I have seen in my life.This just does not make sense.

[@Altair-El-Haddad]

It was Syrian lands way back, that's why.

[@ayyybob]

It's majority turkish, end of story ​@@Altair-El-Haddad

[@Altair-El-Haddad]

@@ayyybob not really, it has always been Syrian lands, just like golan heights.

[@physetermacrocephalus2209]

​@@ayyybob Thats should not be how decisions are made. By that logic things like colonialism, wars of agression and ethnic cleansing are all just and logical which in reality or not. All human ethnic groups should have thier territory restricted to only thier indigenous lands. We should treat ourselves like the animals we are. Indigenous populations are proven and supported. Unindigenous populations are all deported back to wherever science says the genes are from. TL;DR Aparthied aka traditional nationalism as how all of civilzation worked before things like colonialism and wars of agression ruined.

[@ayyybob]

@@physetermacrocephalus2209 y'know what you do have a point, I'm sorry for what I said

[@NordicPatriot]

The American gon fix the French British mistake!

[@utopiaOKC]

Yea we thought the same thing about Vietnam.

[@aehoward91]

Ah we just need to spread manage democracy all they need is some freedom!

[@jgw9990]

​@@utopiaOKCPain. America missed an opportunity to stick it to the French and side with the Vietnamese. Britain basically advised France to leave as soon as possible, but France wouldn't listen.

[@5eyoshi]

Screw off

[@thomasdevine867]

Something has to be done. And anything that wasn't malicious or about control by outsiders would have to be better.

[@beastdork19]

Naw bro you drew worse borders than even the French and British with this one 💀

[@Omarkhawaldeh13]

Thank you from an actual middle eastern Jordanian 🇯🇴❤️

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

In terms of looks , yes . In terms of actual stability , probably no .

[@Your_average_Iranian]

​@@Unknown_nobody-p7b your funny

[@Ptoly]

this is actually horrible

[@maijinfraze3206]

looks horribles. its a perfect idea. u just got to used to the original map. there are like 1000000 regions that want independence i think you fail to understand that mister

[@Kyle-qd2sy]

A shame the Assyrian's don't get included in this. After the Assyrian genocide and attacks by ISIS they don't make up a lot of territory anymore but before WWI their population made up a decent amount of what is now south-east Turkey and north west Iraq.

[@Lockfly]

The population of Assyrians in Iraq is that of a small town. Anyway Assyrians live in close proximity mostly with Ezidi Kurds who have outnumbered them for a couple hundred years now and have been their source of protection. If anything it would be way more feasible giving them a state or an Ezidi-Assyrian state.

[@kacgb5315]

Ya source of protection and their genociders to😂, double edged sword ig, the kurds were useful to the Turks when they wanted other minorities dealt with but ay assyrians can't do much since the population is so low and muslims surround them

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

Exactly! what a waste.

[@pieui]

🇺🇸sisi

[@pieui]

​@@Lockflybad

[@Counterfactualy_no]

This comment section is going to be peaceful and civil with no out of control debates

[@iggymag]

This just seems to me like another batch of poor borders made by someone who has not lived or is from the middle east

[@notthatguy-ku2eh]

Yeah bro as Iranian this gonna start middle east war

[@JoK04]

@@notthatguy-ku2ehstart haha it’s already there

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

What if we glass it from orbit instead? Much less problems.

[@utopiaOKC]

That would work of they had done what they did for no reason. You cant destabilize an entire region for 50 years and then wonder why they cant get along. Thats like expecting africa to be peaceful after the french left. Nice way to show how little you know about this though.

[@jgw9990]

​@utopia4056 Before those 50 years, things were kept stable by the Ottoman Turks basically ruling over the Arabs. Maybe its better, maybe not.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

​@jgw9990 Indeed. Specifically Jews, Christians and Muslims were living in relative Peace under the Ottomans, then came European Zionist J*ws which in turn radicalized the Muslims.

[@duquedealbadetormes6117]

​@@utopiaOKCSooo... Let's just glass Africa. Problem solved.

[@1650th]

Not before I come for you

[@israilkolas5853]

I mean Hatay, Adana and Antep are mostly Turkish though not Arab

[@abdalz587]

إنها أجزاء من بلاد الشام سوريا وضمتها تركيا الأناضولية بعد الحرب العالمية الأولى وستعود إن شاء الله إلى سوريا طال الزمان أو قصر وتذكر كلامي هذا.

[@israilkolas5853]

@@abdalz587 Bruh you guys dont even have control over north east of your country it's stupid that you would go for irredentism when your country is in such condition. besides, They were never a part of modern syria. The fact that French gave it to syria doesnt make them syrian. They all have Turkish populations and no arabs. Arabs make only a minority and thats been the case even when the french decided to gave it syria. But there is a reason that Turkey ended up having them. And that reason being, these provinces were overwhelmingly turkish and syria coulnt have control over them. People of Antep literally resisted the occupation on their own, they cleary werent happy with being annexed to syria. Same goes for Hatay they voted to join Turkey.

[@TylerDurden-pk5km]

Israel can defend itself? Why did the US just sent them multiple billion dollars? On top of the 3 billion they get every year ...

[@MonsieurDean]

Because apparently we love wasting money on foreign countries

[@Nenerii]

@@MonsieurDeancorrecto! you're almost there.

[@adamnesico]

Europe too sended many money to the crusader states. URSS too sended money to their vassal states. Thats why regimes in Somalia, Yugoslavia and Ethiopia collapsed immediately and Cuba and north Korea had famines.

[@TylerDurden-pk5km]

@@adamnesico The comparison of Israel with the historical crusader states is a valid one. Both formed by Europeans, both dependent on their external benefactors and both founded based on religious doctrine.

[@DEFC0NZER0]

Personally, as Americans, we shouldn't be obligated to help any foreign country. If or when we are able to fix our internal issues here in our own country first, then we can start talking prices for the defense of foreign countries. In short; foreign countries should pay us to defend them based on prices we as Americans establish. We would essentially be a mercenary nation to the foreign world.

[@Noah-qp6oe]

The point that Israel wouldn’t of survived without international support is wrong, Israel fought 3 wars with relatively little international support (in the early days, 48 67 73) and that support was balanced out by counter international support in the form of the USSR.

[@hothdog]

the creation of israel wouldn't have happened without international support

[@hothdog]

67 was started by israel

[@Lp-army1]

Wasnt his point but ok​@hothdog

[@Lp-army1]

​@@hothdogthe creation of Palestine wouldn't have happened without international support as well

[@noname-hf9ty]

​@@Lp-army1without international interference, there wouldn't be a need for a Palestinian state and the Arabs would have a greater Syrian state

[@baconmikee4400]

Probably one of your worst border redrawings, you could've done better I know you could.

[@Izanagi057]

Explain

[@a3cools115]

He’s a zionist so no

[@rlmartinez26]

His solution is to remove the Palestinians from Palestine in favor of Israel is that enough?

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

@@Izanagi057There’s just some weird decisions I believe, like why turn Iran into the neo-Persian empire, it’s just a weird decision. Giving Cyprus to Greece is a bit strange, and Turkey lost Turkish lands to the UAR. The Egyptian coast being independent is pointless and his idea of a two state solution sees Israel get all it land and more and the he just tells the Palestinians to just move to Jordan.

[@m1rifle235]

​@@kylezdancewicz7346 is this map aleast somewhat better then the borders britain and france drew?

[@Jj.leenard]

This video seems to be made to cause major fights. Turkey especially, we fought for our lands, beat everyone and made our own border.

[@abdalz587]

أنتم مخدوعين بأنفسكم ومعتدين بها أكثر من اللازم والحقيقة أن الإنجليز والفرنسيون والروس والإيطاليون هم الذين صنعوا لكم حدودكم ودولتكم تركيا الأناضولية بعد أن هزموكم شر هزيمة في حرب البلقان والحرب العالمية الأولى وما بعدها أما اليونانيون والإيطاليون فلا يذكرون ليسوا قادرين على تحدي إثيوبيا فما بالك بتركيا 🤣🖕🏽🤣👊🏼🤣👊🏼🇹🇷💩🐒👞🇹🇷💩🐖👞🇹🇷👙💩👞

[@desichalkos5627]

Giving the region around lake Van to the kurds is as indefensible as the current status quo. That land was Armenian in every sense of the word until the genocide, and giving it to the kurds is just rewarding them for the massive role they played in said genocide (and the Assyrian one, too). As far as i'm concerned, their current persecution is punishment for being lapdogs of the turks. Does there exist a reality in which the Armenians don't get shafted at every opportunity?

[@zgramzhnisk3036]

Give it to them and they end up being almost a minority in their own country, the region bordering Armenia and Lake Van has around 2-2.5 million people, Armenia itself has a population of 2.7 million. You would be creating a country where half the land and the population is not even Armenian, which would be unstable af.

[@Lockfly]

So what? There's millions of Kurds there now and there's nothing to do about it. Kurds have also proven themselves to not be ethnically cleanable Saddam certainly tried and failed very badly.

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@LockflyThe Turks " cleansed" plenty a few years ago.

[@sarantis1995]

The only viable alternate history for a strong Armenia is the Wilsonian Armenia but we missed this chance, didn't we? 🇬🇷 🤝🇦🇲

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

So you want to destabilize Armenia by giving them a massive “minority” that would be like 30+ percent of the population of the entire Armenian state because historically… Historically A controlled area B is a stupid argument that is illogical and ignores such thing as the actual situation.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

That thumbnail is awesome! You never dissapoint

[@frasenp8411]

Interesting although I think your "solution" for Israel-Palestine is not at all good. Basically it is just removing Palestinians, from both historical Palestine as well as the Palestine with the current 1967 borders, and moving them to neighbouring countries which would just cause cross border conflicts as they would obviously still want to go back to their land and establish an independent state. Thus I don't see this leading to Israelis and Palestinians living peacefully together or apart. But then again it is a very complicated question and I am not expecting you to solve it here lol but I am surprised that you gave all of the 1967 borders to Israel though.

[@Adir-Yosef]

most Jordanians even today are "Palestinians" because of former policies and land was even part of the mandate for Palestine (until like 1922) the real problem is Palestinians not wanting Israel to exist (we changed nothing about the people remember) while also hating the Jordanian monarchy. even if all Palestinian were moved onto Jordan they would still overthrow the government and make another terror base/state (like they did in south Lebanon after black September, like in modern Gaza or how they attempted to do in Jordan which lead to black September) it would have probably eventually worked if we tried it from the start but as it is now, nope.

[@frasenp8411]

@@Adir-Yosef I would definitely not say most Jordanians are Palestinians but the main issue is that both Palestinians and Israelis lay claim to the same land and both have ties to the land both historically and currently and a solution has to be made that is fair for both and also making sure Palestinian refugees can return but also making sure that no war errupts between Israel and Palestine after a two state solution (which is what most of the world supports) Also one of the reasons (but not the only one) Palestinian refugees don't get citizenship is because the countries don't want to legitimize Israel expelling them which would encourage more of that but rather they want them to be able to return when an independent state is created

[@Adir-Yosef]

@@frasenp8411 1. but they are Palestinians, when Jordan was in control of the west bank there were marriages and movements that allowed Palestinian integration and sometimes later Jordan allowed some direct Palestinians to get citizenship, this made most Jordanians get Palestinian ancestors, like 60% or something like that. (they are also not that far off generically but besides the point) 2. if not wanting to legitimize the fleeing from the area is indeed a reason but it's definitely a more minor one, besides it's not like they didn't do worse to Jews in the Arab world yet Israel the US and France took them in. now that i think of that, we are in a pointless argument, agree to stop?

[@snakey934Snakeybakey]

the "1967 borders" are a non-entity. Not a thing.

[@Earthlybeing396]

Palestine never existed

[@Lol-ql3gd]

As an khuzestani-irani-arab i can say that no arab in southern iran wants to break from Iran. same with the Iranian azeris in the north.

[@erth-d3s]

as a iranian persian u dont want ur cameloid genes in my country

[@legchairhistorian5496]

Wow I’m first 23 seconds, this seems like a very controversial video. Making spheres are reminiscent of the Sykes picot I must say.

[@datdumbguy1067]

Middle East belongs to Albania. Give it all to Albania, except Kuwait, they stay.

[@samankucher5117]

lets gooooooooo

[@pieui]

kuwait not will country

[@thequraininstitute6618]

As a middle eastern, this is trash 🚮

[@adamnesico]

Any possible frontiers are 🗑, you love war too much.

[@Mahhistory]

@@adamnesico its more the region vcan only be happy after its under one rule

[@adamnesico]

@@Mahhistory not even that. See the many revolts under ottomans and arabs.

[@Mahhistory]

@@adamnesico thats in there decline

[@adamnesico]

@@Mahhistory In their rise they simple went to sack outside in colonial wars. No more colonial spoils>revolts. Are you suggesting to become like the ones u hate?

[@JF-rh5vq]

never let this guy cook again

[@wilpikle7754]

Damn of course we are gonna forget the Assyrians and Chaldeans RIP

[@MPHJackson7]

He probably didn't include them since he was only focusing on states big enough to not get conquered by other states

[@johnthestringray]

​@@MPHJackson7then why the little 4 coastal states in Lebanon and Syria. Those would be eaten up by Israel or the big Syria quite quickly.

[@Aq_3]

@@johnthestringray there autonomous but your too dumb to hear

[@kevinyonan9666]

@@MPHJackson7 he could've put them as getting autonomy somewhere...

[@noname-hf9ty]

In fairness they live in lands where they're outnumbered by other ethnicities like Kurds or levantine Arabs, it's like trying to split Bosnia and Herzegovina between Muslims and Christians

[@z1k1c1321]

lol, you managed to outdo Churchill

[@MrAmhara]

You don’t even know what the “ Middle East” is if you have a map of the “ Middle East “ including Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan ect.

[@talesferreiralimadossantos8806]

These countries have close relations with some nations of the "true" Middle East, so that's why they were involved.

[@samankucher5117]

that makes it the greater middle East .

[@Adir-Yosef]

my man Turkey is 95% in the middle east, only thrace isn't.

[@Nationalist166]

Pakistan and Afghanistan are not, but Türkiye is, are you dumb ? Kinda hypocritical. Might as well remove Egypt if Türkiye isn't.

[@AlexVictorianus]

But why keep the Islamist regime in Iran? A secular constitutional monarchy would be better.

[@alibouaichi547]

Both Shias and Pahlavis are horrible

[@ayyybob]

As an arab, my only problem with this map is that it makes the perfect opportunity for a cold war between Iran and Saudi Arabia to happen, which is...not good...at all... Also, i think the two-state solution is much better for the jews and pals than the one-state solution

[@josephfriedman1305]

He is saying that Jordan is the 2nd state in the 2 state solution.

[@MonsieurDean]

You already have a much worse Cold War between the two. At least this will cease the largest land and power disputes between them.

[@ayyybob]

@@MonsieurDean okay you got a point, but I feel like the whole "mini autonomous states" thing would give Iran and KSA too much land, and will also make the gulf very divided and open to conflicts

[@ayyybob]

@@josephfriedman1305 I think the pals wouldn't want to leave their home and go to Jordan, plus I don't understand how israel and Jordan become best friends in this timeline it just doesn't make any religious, historical or beneficial sense

[@Chr0n0s38]

​@@ayyybobThe bigger issue is Palestinians are anti-monarchy. They actually assassinated one of Jordan's kings a few decades ago.

[@bnbcraft6666]

I noticed you have Nagorno-Karabahk to Azerbaijan 🤨, that region was entirely Armenian before September 2023

[@MonsieurDean]

And now?

[@bnbcraft6666]

​@MonsieurDean should the Armenians not be allowed to return home without fears of genocide in this hypothetical scenario?

[@MegrelMamba]

​@@bnbcraft6666I guess this map is entirely based on what the ethnic lines are currently. If he based it off of historical interpretation it would need much bigger pre-planned research.

[@bnbcraft6666]

@MegrelMamba he give ethnic Turkish parts of southern turkey to Syria

[@MegrelMamba]

@bnbcraft6666 Oh I just noticed

[@anthonylandin6788]

No Matter how the borders are drawn the region will fall to into chaos with groups still fighr for more land

[@Omarkhawaldeh13]

As a jordanian middle eastern, this map hurts. Plus we aren't even tolerant of the existence of "Israel" , let alone form an alliance. If you really want to improve the middle east, unite 🇯🇴🇸🇾🇱🇧🇵🇸🇸🇦🇰🇼🇴🇲 into one, with some religious minorities having autonomy. Yemen will get back to north and south, as it defines religious borders. Azerbaijan gets it's Azeri land, and Iraq gets it's ahvaz land. A Kurdish state forms. This is much better for the people and more good for them. Please Americans don't just learn about our" religious differences" and try to imply it without knowing what we actually want. Love to 🇯🇴❤️🇰🇼🇴🇲🇸🇦🇵🇸🇱🇧🇸🇾

[@israeldevries]

ok

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Suggestion: What if Greece realized the Maegeli idea?.🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

[@Rafael-n8r3k]

Hypothetical situation The Greeks elect an extremist as Prime Minister, they prepare themselves for a war, they invade Turkey and begin to carry out a genocide of Turks in Istanbul and other Turkish cities and regions. Do you really think that the international community would support the Greeks if they try the Megali Idea, the Greeks will be seen as villains and the Turks as victims (I am neither Turkish nor Greek).

[@sarantis1995]

You'd have a bigger Greece and a very angry Turkey. Britain wouldn't allow it though

[@olbiomoiros]

@@sarantis1995true. Britain France and the US wouldn’t. But what would be the case today, not just about Greece, but any other country. Britain and France are gradually being reduced to average European countries.

[@f_erbey]

1 ) Zaza people are also Kurds they should be with kurds. Also Kurdish city like Kobani are a part of U. A. R 2 ) Why the hell did adana belong to the U. A. R ? It must be a part of Turkey. 3 ) Egypt should stay same

[@f_erbey]

Sorry zazas are autonomous. Still part of kurds so it's ok. makes sense. They're shia so respect

[@AlefeLucas]

you basically erased Palestinians under the Jordanian label

[@ShnoogleMan]

Jordanians and Palestinians are literally just the same population separated by a river.

[@brooklynbud1138]

Good.

[@Sovihis]

@@brooklynbud1138 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🗣🗣🤫🤫🧏‍♂🧏‍♂

[@JHV81]

I support moving all palestinians to There where pepper grows

[@WalterBianco123]

​@@brooklynbud1138💀

[@HiIexist2803]

As a Palestinian I just have to say.. Jordan would NEVER agree to jurisdiction over Palestinians

[@noname-hf9ty]

And as a Jordanian with Palestinian origins, we'd be right to refuse it. Twofold reasons: 1) Palestinians belong in Palestine and any other suggestion be damned 2) Palestinians have a way of making that reality known in violent means when other suggestions are carried out

[@PhilipLaSnail]

As an Israeli, I see this as an absolute win. A free Kurdistan?! A democratic Jordan?!? A weaker Syria?!?! OUR HOMELANDS NOT BE THREATENED BY TERRORISTS?!?! That is a wet dream for us.

[@uncle.tedkaczynski]

Terrorists? Define terrorists since y’all keep attacking us since 1948

[@khurramzafar]

Uh oh, here comes the Nazi calling the Resistance to Apartheid as terrorists! Everyone step back, the Fashy boi's got some hard opinions!

[@pieui]

bad

[@Butterman69]

It isn't your homeland

[@PhilipLaSnail]

@@Butterman69 I'm three generations here. My father and my grandfather were proud Israelis, I am too, and so will be my children. Palestinians can't live everywhere'd like to. But this is my homeland, and I am a soldier to the only country that I know. You won't get it, you probably live in the west, have a blue hair, and protest against Israel instead of studying anything useful but gender studies. I don't blame you, youd see terrorism when it will hit you. You need to be grateful you have us as your frontline, we wish to be you.

[@mathieuleader8601]

the fez with a Z is what I picture Lord Zedd from Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers to wear on Casual Fridays

[@therealmcromano319]

The Middle East should be partitioned between Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and General Electric

[@Ali-bu6lo]

I don't have much comment on the other parts but the Iranian section seems very inaccurate to me. 1) "Balochistan has more in common with Pakistan", What??? Pakistan has far more problems with Balochi separatism than Iran has ever had and Balochi nationalism is far more stronger there. Not to mention that based on observing the massive protests in Balochistan that happened in late 2022 alongside the rest of the country the Baloch population of Iran are patriotic and loyal to Iran but against the Islamic republic, this sentiment is seen both among the general population and their leadership such as Molavi Abdolhamid Ismaeelzahi. Sunni Kurds of Iran do have a historic ethno-nationalist movement but even among them there has been signs of change towards acceptance of Iranian national identity, which brings us to the second point. 2) Iran has a strong civic nationalism that transcends the ethnic differences and is strongly rooted in history (just take a look at Shahnameh for example), I don't understand why westerners, of both left and right have a tendency to disregard this and imagine Iran as either some Yugoslavia to be broken apart or a state that can only be held together by religion. 3) Keeping Iran as a Shia theocracy is not gonna make it stable. Almost 50 years of the "theocratic republic with a supreme leader" has secularized Iran far more than any other country in the region and there are even signs of Islam itself being in decline.

[@Thatoneidiot001]

Actually the problem in Pakistan is overblown but that last thing Pakistan needs is a new territory to integrate as they try to pay off their debt and end a decades long political crisis yea I also think a more united ballochistan would seek independence a lot more because the means would be a lot easier to attain and Iran has well integrated the Baluchi people who surely don’t want to join Pakistan because why would they in its current state anyways it’s liek throwing a minor problem away to expand another persons minor problem to become a big problem

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

It's a real shame that there isn't an Assyrian Republic on this but oh well such is life I suppose...

[@samankucher5117]

there should be one but unfortunately most of them now live in Europe and Amirica .

[@pieui]

bad

[@noname-hf9ty]

Well where would it be? Assyrians live in Kurdistan and Syria and both Kurds and Arabs outnumber them, you'd somehow create an Assyrian oligarchy should you create an Assyrian state

[@mohammadhazraty2372]

We all know how peace can be achieved, and it's with Persia, Ottomans, and Mamluks

[@noname-hf9ty]

Yes cause Persians and the Ottomans and the Mamluks have never had any conflict between themselves 😂

[@physetermacrocephalus2209]

If only the Baath party did not go completely insane. Oh well lmao.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Thoughts on Antoun Saadeh?

[@AmericanImperium1776]

@PatagoniaAries Can't Mossad the Assad! Hehe

[@MegrelMamba]

​@@AmericanImperium1776I miss when people with European descent didn't d-ride muslim leaders

[@noname-hf9ty]

Had the Arabs won in 1967 they might've not, but alas Gamal Abdel Nasser fumbled the bag

[@adamhenrywalker]

How about no borders? Just one big country?

As an Arab i giggled a bit ngl. Forcing Turks,Arabs, Jews, Kurds and Persians to live in one country is never going to happen. We arabs don´t even like eachother (ex. Lebanese christian vs. Lebanese muslims in the 70s/leb civil war or sunni and shia arabs)

[@therealmcromano319]

Welcome back Cyrus the Great

[@Scorpionrex-v2]

0:00 the middle east belongs all to a new state that’s kinda like the HRE but instead of christen it’s muslim

[@janrudnicki6111]

You forgot aBout Armenia and her historical conflicts with Kurdish people Turkey and Azerbaijan that why this boaders cant work.

[@samankucher5117]

thats why i said make Armenia and Azerbaijan and the kurds live in one country that has a federal government and local governments. nowadays kurds are chill with arminans they can keep the azaries in check and the azaries will keep kurds and arminans in check and that way they will avoid wars over land disputes because they all will be living in a federal country where they can live where ever they want .

[@janrudnicki6111]

It was like this in the times of the Russian Empire and the USSR - it was probably the only time when Armenians were not subject to ice genocide against this nation.

[@samankucher5117]

@@janrudnicki6111 not exactly because back in those days the Russians helped arminans against kurds and azaris . even after that i think the arminans actually ethnically cleansed kurds from red Kurdistan region of the ussr when the Russians were last in control of that regon.

[@janrudnicki6111]

@@samankucher5117 Detection of the purges is not very appropriate here - it can only be compared to the genocide in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland in 1943.

[@samankucher5117]

@@janrudnicki6111 i don't know what you mean about that can you elaborate?

[@theguyishere249]

Why is Greece in this map.

[@johnangel2592]

You forgot about Armenia

[@ihatepenuts1]

Nope, notice the yellow between turkey and Azerbaijan? This person literally erased Armenia off the map and gave Armenian indigenous lands to the Kurds.

[@doctormatthattan]

Why would the Red Sea be autonomous in Egypt? There is no significant conflict in that part of Egypt, why not just leave it alone?

[@Jay_Kry5hom]

The Red Sea region wants to secede from Egypt

[@doctormatthattan]

@@Jay_Kry5hom Can you show me your sources on that because I have never heard of that and I would like to read more about it

[@Jay_Kry5hom]

@@doctormatthattan active separatist movements in Africa

[@doctormatthattan]

@@Jay_Kry5hom For the life of me I cannot find it

[@meina0614]

@@Jay_Kry5homits literally populated by egyptians

[@parlyramyar]

How come Kurdish areas of mahabad and mukryan and ardalan regions are given to Azerbaijan and Iran? They are neither azeri turkish nor shia🤔

[@MrRoxAlot]

I believe, the whole middle east should be united under one flag, as that's the only scenario it has ever been developed.

[@notthatguy-ku2eh]

As Iranian we had better life under one flag even if it was Arabic

[@noname-hf9ty]

Aight sure... What flag? *conflict insues*

[@dragonmaster3207]

@@noname-hf9tyIslamic one, the minority should also be protected.

[@farhanaljarrah9310]

how about no isreal? sound good for me

[@justarandomguy5993]

Take your genocidal ideas elsewhere my friend. Israel has a right to exist and is not going anywhere.

[@zackaberg3748]

But not for the jews

[@noname-hf9ty]

​@@zackaberg3748most are from Poland anyways, bring back integration

[@dragonmaster3207]

@@zackaberg3748they can go to Europe and America, Florida is theirs.

[@anthonylong5433]

No one is mentioning how this map gives most of the oil production to Iran and it's satellite states, with Saudi losing most of their oil fields.

[@JevinShively]

"i tHiNK AlL oF tHis ShOUld bE pARt Of tuRKiYe🤓🤪" -whatifalthist

[@georgesoros4223]

I stopped at Jordan assuming responsibility for the Palestinians, the Jordanian did try to do that and in return, hundred of Jordanian police and armed forces were killed in an attempted overthrow of the Jordanian king. The Jordanians will never forgive nor forget what the Palestinians did.

[@hothdog]

it happened because the king wanted to intergrate what was left of palestine that's under his control to jordan, and palestinians wanted to have an independant state that's not ruled by a king

[@Adir-Yosef]

​@@hothdog my man that was after the six days war, Jordan had no more of Palestine to integrate, the Palestinians just wanted Jordan to be even more aggressive to Israel. farther proven by what they did to Lebanon right after black sceptember.

[@noname-hf9ty]

​@@Adir-Yosefyeah and guess why they wanted that? They want their Palestinian state 😂 they're literally screaming it at you and you're still acting confused

[@cjvoerman5591]

So, Z…when does Europe get redrawn?

[@MonsieurDean]

We’ll see!

[@NikasInParis_777]

Do a what if the carlists won the first civil war of Spain 1836 pls​@@MonsieurDean

[@adamnesico]

A redrawn of Europe would be mostly a give nationalism movements their own states. European borders have their people in account.

[@user-uf2df6zf5w]

Stop insulting Greece by bringing them on a map of the Middle East. And if you do so, they deserve the Turkish Aegean coast.

[@theyakamoz1]

RIP Assyrians not mentioned :(

[@ragingnoah]

Now do this with the Balkans

[@1650th]

I do not want another world war

[@TheTrex9000]

@@1650th Austrians learned this the hard way

[@EthanDornton]

This’ll be a blood bath.

[@MonsieurDean]

Hahaha! What a bubble bath!

[@EthanDornton]

@@MonsieurDean lol 😆

[@samankucher5117]

it already is lol

[@yanalbertoagudelo9687]

Wait, why is Greece on the map but Armenia ignored? Was there significance in that choice? Not that it would survive long in that map.

[@Pyxis216]

Bahrain in this map is too op for its size due to oil and gas. While Iran lost alot of its oil producing region to Iraq.

[@Unkown-sc2xm]

And this is why wsterners should not draw maps.

[@kfiraltberger552]

As an Israeli, I kinda approve of your solution, also, there's no possible way it can happen. I can't see Jordan deciding to allow Palestinians into it's state, the fear is from a Palestinian terror organization toppling the Jordanian monarchy and establishing a state more akin to the Iranian theocracy. Meanwhile, Gaza being given to Egypt could've been a genuine possibility, imho. Much less likely to topple down the Egyptian government, and please for the love of god make Gaza not our fucking problem to deal with

[@silver14626]

why gaza people are very stupid

[@Altair-El-Haddad]

As an eastern european* you mean.

[@a3cools115]

Your people are evil and people are starting to wake up to your kind

[@EthanDornton]

The Israeli government should just annex Gaza and kick out the muslims or at least the troublesome muslims.

[@Chr0n0s38]

It might make more sense for a deal to be made for the UAR to absorb the inhabitants of the West Bank, though even that isn't a clean solution. It's almost like forcefully evicting a population from homes they've lived in for generations is a bad idea that Israel will be forever stuck with. Maybe Israel should just grant them full citizenship and let the Palestinians have a fair say in policy. Surely they wouldn't seek revenge for their treatment by the IDF....

[@dertyp7916]

„Shia persians“ is a funny thing to say while the government was ran by azeris, caspians(gilaks, mazanis, talysh), kurds, persians and others

[@JohnDorian-j7x]

@1:30 looks like an Elephant rearing on its hind legs

[@Mimic02-z5b]

First of all, I’m from Elazığ, a city that you just gave to the Zazas. Our traditions are always misinterpreted as Kurdish or Zaza; we are neither of them. We are Turks but not homogeneous ones. We refuse to believe that you just gave our very own lands to a minority that has absolutely no right. Even if this is an alternate video, the populations of every one of these provinces matter; giving them to a small minority would misinterpret the majority. I can easily tell that you are not objective with your videos too, I would have enjoyed the video if it was much much much more neutral and not anti-turkish in full scales

[@sarantis1995]

As a Greek, I see this as an absolute win

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

I’m just glad he didn’t do something stupid like say Greece should get Constantinople.

[@meina0614]

@@kylezdancewicz7346it should.

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

@@meina0614 Oh really, because theirs more Kurds living there then Greeks

[@meina0614]

@@kylezdancewicz7346 i wonder why. Also most western Anatolians are just islamicized/turkicized Greeks anyway.

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

@@meina0614 So your saying Greece could get the city based off nothing even though barely any Greeks live there anymore

[@PrussianGeneral1815]

We need this. The Middle East is just a place where America steps in needlessly because of stupid borders.

[@adamnesico]

No border will leave them satisfied.

[@muratalkiner7791]

What have you been smoking?

[@Jimmy-vm5wj]

"I could fix her."

[@that1dudeintheinternet]

“Bob the builder, can he fix it?”

[@user-ov5nd1fb7s]

Greece is in Europe, not the middle east.

[@MonsieurDean]

But the Middle East should be in Greece.

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@MonsieurDeanWhy?

[@MonsieurDean]

@@RK-cj4ocAlexander

[@akshaykubade4210]

Ye pakistan kabse middle east me aane laga..😂

[@okman9684]

Why we call it the Middle East. Its literally middle of nowhere in a spherical globe 😑

[@Noric.Morava]

Because mediaeval and rennesance Europeans viewed todays turkey as east and china and mongol steps as far east. As such, this middle area became known as middle east.

[@user-sh3cf7kd6e]

Those are horrible borders, American. You allocated Azerbaijan the Iranian Kurdistan, for instance...

[@MegrelMamba]

",American."-👳🏾‍♂️

[@samankucher5117]

ohhh i just saw it he gave alot of kurdish inhabited regions to iran and Azerbaijan.

[@kieranthomas8190]

I don’t see the point in splitting off the Southeastern coast of Egypt, considering that it’s mostly Sunni Arab, just maybe with a higher portion of Coptic Christians. I could see a case for an independent/autonomous Sinai state though considering the unrest in the region. Also, the Jordanian-Israeli solution makes sense, but neither Egypt nor Jordan wants to accept Palestinians because they’re too radical. Look at what happened in Black September. But maybe in this world Palestinians are more content on having a Palestinian/Hashemite state on the East bank of the Jordan River (which seems unlikely).

[@noname-hf9ty]

The Palestinian solution he proposed does NOT make sense dude 😂 we know this cause we tried it, Jordan annexed the west bank in 1948 and that resulted in black september, Palestinians lo and behold want PALESTINE not just ANY state

[@soud_s7283]

He forgot about the tribes tribes TRIBES IS THE ONLY FACTOR THAT WAS NEEDED TO BE KNOWN BEFORE MAKING THE FIRST BORDERS WE ALL NOW HATE EACH OTHER BECAUSE THOSE BORDER WERE DETERMINED BASED ON TRADING ROADS

[@soud_s7283]

We did not care about religious factors because tribes made them united on a single race

[@Mast3r0fTheUniverse]

😂 I doubt the Turks would tolerate this. 😂

[@MonsieurDean]

No one is asking for their consent.

[@Mast3r0fTheUniverse]

@@MonsieurDean a plan guaranteed to fail. Making me laugh 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣 even harder now.

[@adamnesico]

@@Mast3r0fTheUniverseAs any plan is doomed to fail, lets just sell them weapons.

[@Mast3r0fTheUniverse]

@@adamnesico as long as we don’t put any boots on the ground.

[@samankucher5117]

tbh .... alot of turks will take it if given the chance and it is logical 1 fighting kurds and shias is expensive. 2 kurds as a demographic group are increasingly having more children than turks . 3 if kurds and arabs keep moving to western parts of Turkey that will change the demographic and political maps in Turkey. . btw when i say alot of turks will take this i dont mean most turks .

[@lubnamujeebofficial]

You made it worse. Middle East can't be more peaceful than this.

[@Someone-q6f5x]

This is even worse

[@WalterZiobro]

The region is changing, even as we speak, Syria looks like it may be split up into ethic enclaves, which could effectively be autonimous in a federal system or completely independent.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Personally, I'm for local empires administering the area. Revived Ottoman Empire, Neo-Persian, New Caliphate, or Crusader Kingdoms. Which one do you guys think?

[@Adir-Yosef]

would probably be better for the region, the concept of the nation state doesn't really work here.

[@Michael_the_Drunkard]

A neo-Ottoman Empire? Are you gay?

[@AmericanImperium1776]

@@Adir-Yosef Agreed. The people over there have a medieval mindset as opposed to a modern one.

[@Lockfly]

Except the governments don't have a medieval mind set. For an empire to work it would have to be extremely decentralized and barely function as a country at all like the Ottoman empire. The Kurdish part of the Ottoman empire refused to pay taxes and Kurds fought the Ottomans for hundreds of years just to not pay taxes and the Ottomans just accepted it.​@@AmericanImperium1776

[@AmericanImperium1776]

@@Lockfly I didn't mean governments, I meant the people.

[@Geomaverick124]

I agree with the exception of cyprus. Either it stays split or its given to Turkey...Turkey winds up not only losing territory but gets boxed in by Greece which will cause tension.

[@johncalabria1607]

Honestly the best drawn map of the Middle East I’ve ever seen. I give it two weeks of peace

[@mintstixxx]

honestly, won’t even last a week

[@oscartapia1409]

Why doesn’t Greece get the holy city

[@MonsieurDean]

Because it’s mostly turkish

[@warcriminalgaming2359]

@@MonsieurDean🤓

[@Mahhistory]

@@warcriminalgaming2359 ok greece 10 million pops istanbul 15 lillion pops now think

[@warcriminalgaming2359]

@@Mahhistory bro I’m just joking I know it’s not practical

[@firemangan]

The people at funeral homes gona be making big money

[@arashhassanzade4137]

Well , just give east and iraq to iran , arabs to Saudi and others to turkey , except Israel

[@cosmiccosmonaut820]

Just give everything to assad

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Give everything to the pope

[@a3cools115]

Based

[@samankucher5117]

give it all to xi

[@tengiz]

Well I'd never think that I would see someone creating worse borders than British

[@flaxbadas]

You make it worst ☠️

[@Aceman52]

I dont see the Iranian province in Arabia lasting very long.

[@Mahhistory]

um its majority shia and the weltheast of soudi lands in oiliran will defend it no mater what

[@samankucher5117]

the hothis did .

[@noname-hf9ty]

​@@Mahhistorywhich is even more of a reason it's ridiculous, imagine what Iran will be compelled to do if it controlled Arabian lands like THAT