What if the Soviets Won the Cold War? (Part 1)

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@flyingpirate0456
@flyingpirate0456 8 жыл бұрын
Then Cody hits puberty sometime after the publishing of this video
@elliotaddler2302
@elliotaddler2302 8 жыл бұрын
Matthew Robben I was just about to say that.
@ajanideroock
@ajanideroock 7 жыл бұрын
You stole my joke.
@flyingpirate0456
@flyingpirate0456 7 жыл бұрын
+101850126109228862705 I obviously didn't if I beat you to it by almost five months
@Charles-472
@Charles-472 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Robben There are 2 people narrating this. Cody and I think the other kid is Tyler
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 7 жыл бұрын
You can see the progression or rather transition in his voice. There are two people narrating this video of course, I'm specifically talking about Cody.
@calvinware7957
@calvinware7957 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think the USA would have to fall to communism for the USSR to win the cold war. It was just a matter of the soviets dominating the foreign policy and winning over more countries through police power until america had less allies and was faced with two options: warfare or cooperation on soviet terms. In fact many people thought the cold war wasn't going to end with the fall of the soviet union. They had assumed the soviet union would exist and that the cold war would end when the united states and soviet union agreed diplomatically for peace and began to maybe trade with each other. If that were the case one could argue that the age of global politics we live in today would not be one of the US as the world policemen, but the united nations with America and the Soviet Union working together to address certain issues in a way both parties agreed too.
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 10 жыл бұрын
Well that was part 2.
@dirkturrell6460
@dirkturrell6460 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there was some trade between the US/North America and the soviets. I defo remember seeing lada nivas around before the ussr collapsed so that's one example
@pixel6698
@pixel6698 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the most achieveable goal for the Soviets would be Influence over all of Europe, NATO being weakened, and the US returning to isolationism. Could be wrong though.
@anthonymartinez8488
@anthonymartinez8488 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I totally agree. I think we wouldnt have became communist, just would’ve be became a port broken country. Kinda like what’s happening now. With the storming of the capital, and this new far right party, dividing the country
@unknowunknown9096
@unknowunknown9096 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlternateHistoryHub what if thai communist party came to power
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 8 жыл бұрын
I always find these new flags interesting. I know that's just a symbol for a non-existing society, but still.
@Warsie
@Warsie 8 жыл бұрын
+Lugmillord theres a lot of good flags for a hypothetical communist america online.
@grimhavenz
@grimhavenz 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don’t like it...I believe realistically the us would use a similar flag to the soviets with their flag. But if they weren’t I don’t think they’d change the stripes to blue...
@blankblank5409
@blankblank5409 3 жыл бұрын
@@Warsie Its great
@jimboonie9885
@jimboonie9885 3 жыл бұрын
@@grimhavenz ok liberal
@floydjarvis
@floydjarvis 3 жыл бұрын
@@grimhavenz wouldn’t they just use a slightly altered flag or the same flag to seem more American?
@josephstalin6549
@josephstalin6549 9 жыл бұрын
Oooh gee thanks alot you just gave me wet dreams again.
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 9 жыл бұрын
You know the U.S.S.R de-stalinized right man? Even they didn't like you after you were dead.
@slyguythreeonetwonine3172
@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 9 жыл бұрын
Sara3346 lol Right.
@transientlotus8159
@transientlotus8159 9 жыл бұрын
Sara3346 fucking Khrushchev
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 9 жыл бұрын
Why do you want to fuck Krushchev?
@transientlotus8159
@transientlotus8159 9 жыл бұрын
Sara3346 I don't wanna fuck the corn lord, he's the one responsible for the de-Stalinization of the USSR.
@peterulbricht449
@peterulbricht449 8 жыл бұрын
The cold war was never won or lost, it stopped because Gorbachov collapsed the USSR.
@JJ-pm4ob
@JJ-pm4ob 8 жыл бұрын
It stopped an one side died. (aka the other side won)
@dutchministryofdefence604
@dutchministryofdefence604 8 жыл бұрын
no thats like sayin [ OH LOOK the war between north and south korea is over but people stil hate eachothere :5 years later: kim jon un died of a heart atack he was to fat and now north kerea collapsed ] and then the news paper would say south korea won. THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
@JJ-pm4ob
@JJ-pm4ob 8 жыл бұрын
+arie de niet wat
@dutchministryofdefence604
@dutchministryofdefence604 8 жыл бұрын
Jakob Maier in short you cant win a war after the war was already over
@13adChannel
@13adChannel 8 жыл бұрын
if north korea fell sk would've won, that is what he is saying you idiot
@1991stratplus
@1991stratplus 10 жыл бұрын
What if Canada and USA united as a single country.
@mebob9119
@mebob9119 10 жыл бұрын
I think he already did one like that, it was what if america won the war of 1812? American Canada.
@1991stratplus
@1991stratplus 10 жыл бұрын
Me Bob Thanks, i will check it out, thanks for the info.
@newagehackers9696
@newagehackers9696 10 жыл бұрын
the world would maybe care about the region of cananda.
@1991stratplus
@1991stratplus 10 жыл бұрын
NewAgeHackers Maybe indeed, i am not sure. Hopefully the region of Canada would be very-very cared for the the new world order. Furthermore,...... As long as there is order.
@podgurje100
@podgurje100 10 жыл бұрын
It would be good
@reynaldoabulencia200
@reynaldoabulencia200 8 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to make a movie based on this video.
@065Tim
@065Tim 8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a movie about some 80's astronauts on a space station while nuclear war breaks out beneath them.
@peterwatchesthewatchmen
@peterwatchesthewatchmen 8 жыл бұрын
+Tungst I think that's already a scene in a movie...
@reynaldoabulencia200
@reynaldoabulencia200 8 жыл бұрын
+PeterWatchesTheWatchmen What movie is it?
@ranelgallardo7031
@ranelgallardo7031 6 жыл бұрын
PeterWatchesTheWatchmen The Handsmaid Tale is the closest thing to this
@JONNOG88
@JONNOG88 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Their should be a. A Man in the High Castle style. Alternative reality. In which the USSR won the Cold war. & Communism would dominate the world??
@jg3000
@jg3000 10 жыл бұрын
What would've happened if the white army beat the red army in the Russian Revolution?
@alexanderthemagnifcent2573
@alexanderthemagnifcent2573 10 жыл бұрын
I like your thinking.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 10 жыл бұрын
A new tzar in Russia? Who knows, a much more interesting question you have made for sure.
@th3omachos
@th3omachos 6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy...
@project22-ab88
@project22-ab88 4 жыл бұрын
@@PMMagro No, the White Army would've been somewhat of democracy
@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2
@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2 4 жыл бұрын
Then socialism would've inevitably risen elsewhere. The spirit of humanity will demand emancipation as long as it remains enslaved.
@redbassist5590
@redbassist5590 9 жыл бұрын
why is it that when people talk about communism they mention socialism like it's exactly the same thing. communism and socialism are by no means the same thing.
@TheTC
@TheTC 9 жыл бұрын
+Atheist Bassist Yeah, and communism never existed. Though I think the reason they're regarded as the same thing is the name "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics"
@Cosmalano
@Cosmalano 9 жыл бұрын
Communism is the final step in a well established socialist society.
@SethDaMeth
@SethDaMeth 8 жыл бұрын
+Atheist Bassist Let me tell u something, Communism is completely bad, but in Socialism, there are 2 different types of Socialism types of Socialism, Democratic Socialism (Bernie Sanders and Scandinavia) and Marxist-Leninist Scocialism (AKA The USSR, Soviet Union, and China)
@redbassist5590
@redbassist5590 8 жыл бұрын
+AaronAwesome10 you can't say communism's bad because we've never seen it in action before. and there are many more types of socialism but it does seem that those two are the most popular. socialism, much like communism, also had nothing to do with the ussr.
@cpob2013
@cpob2013 8 жыл бұрын
+Atheist Bassist socialism is the economic policy of the communist states. communism combines socialist economics and an autocratic variant, practially a military dictatorship since that it what is necessary to effect a revolution.
@KironVB
@KironVB 10 жыл бұрын
Lots of misinformation on this page so I'll try iron some out: Socialism = Worker control of the means of production and commodities produced for need and distributed evenly. Capitalism = Private control of the means of production and commodities produced for sale in a market for the purpose of profit. There are different forms these economic systems can take, for example, you have State-Capitalism which is state-owned enterprises that produce commodities for a market for the purpose of profit (See China, the USSR and any state run enterprise in the west. ("Nationalized" businesses)) Free Market Capitalism which is privately owned business competing with each other in a market. (look at any private sector of any country) At the same time you have different forms of Socialism: State-Socialism = Working class takes over the state, nationalizes means of production and then produces goods for need. (What the USSR and China was SUPPOSED to be) Libertarian-Socialism = Working class take control of means of production, then run those businesses democratically from the bottom up, cooperating with each other in federations producing goods for need based on cooperation. (see Revolutionary Catalonia) Communism is the final state of humanity, it is when humans have finally overcome greed and inequality, produce goods we need in abundance and live happily. Communism is the next stage of humanity after Socialism as Feudalism > Capitalism > Socialism > Communism. (See Star Trek The Next Generation) The USSR, North Korea, China etc etc are NOT COMMUNIST, they don't even call themselves Communist. This is western propaganda to try slur an entire economic and political thought. While these countries are run by Communist parties, they are Communist in name only. The idea with Leninism is that a group of communist intellectuals would take over the state, then organize society into a form which then the working class could take over and implement Socialism. (in reality these "Communists" just hijacked the term to get into power, just like Fascists hijacked the term "Socialism" to get into power in Germany) The USSR, North Korea, China etc etc called themselves state-capitalist states on the transition to a Socialist economy. They weren't Socialist, let alone Communist.
@Metrionix
@Metrionix 9 жыл бұрын
Instead of everything being controlled by the working class, it was controlled by the dictator.
@ErikPT
@ErikPT 7 жыл бұрын
KironVB USSR was the closest thing to being a true Communism state but after Stalin it fell apart.
@patrickcummins79
@patrickcummins79 7 жыл бұрын
i love this description, so true.. every video of a former soviet citizen "schooling" a westerner on the "truths" of "socialism" needs to Fucking Understand this distinction. Just because Your Country fucked up socialism, does not mean shit..
@degenerate3288
@degenerate3288 6 жыл бұрын
KironVB Communism if impossible for a country Economics don't with like that Socialism is more like to work but usually fails USSR, China and all communist states all fail You need to see why
@medio-litro
@medio-litro 6 жыл бұрын
I think most of your points are valid, but just a word of advice for the future: When you're writing a paper for you economics class don't include "Star Trek-The Next Generation" as a reference.
@ArgonPlasma
@ArgonPlasma 11 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, my dear comrade, on achieving 1000 subscribers. Hope to see more scenarios in the near future.
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :) -Cody
@ArgonPlasma
@ArgonPlasma 11 жыл бұрын
NOW, TIME TO DRINK VODKA!
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 11 жыл бұрын
ha ha!
@Muslim-og3vc
@Muslim-og3vc 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternateHistoryHub damn now your at 2 million subs
@emperorgiz1
@emperorgiz1 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternateHistoryHub Lol, 1,000 subscribers is nothing compared today!
@Voltorb1993
@Voltorb1993 10 жыл бұрын
KZbin just recommanded this to me, as I am sometimes watching videos like that and wow... this channel is amazing. Instant subscribe and thank you so much.
@OgreDogre
@OgreDogre 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not alone! :D
@memehi5483
@memehi5483 5 жыл бұрын
I’m crying and shaking rn, it’s so beautiful
@alexisthebestever7426
@alexisthebestever7426 10 жыл бұрын
I love how he calls the Soviet-Afghan war a MAJOR DEFEAT (14,000 dead Soviets) but says that the Vietnam war ended up really badly (58 000 dead Americans). Such an objective analyst.
@kpop-vi9mz
@kpop-vi9mz 2 жыл бұрын
Because u.s didnt really lose its status
@undreadecembrie
@undreadecembrie 2 жыл бұрын
Bet you re dying of envy nowadays huh
@johnfox2975
@johnfox2975 Жыл бұрын
@@kpop-vi9mz well our puppet government didnt collapse in 3 days at least
@birisi916
@birisi916 10 ай бұрын
I think both are the same things.
@OleeHem
@OleeHem 11 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I haven't subscribed yet, as I've been watching your videos for a while! I also have ideas for two alternate histories, if the Venetians united Italy under a Merchant Republic in the 1500s, and if the Sultanate of Andalusia never fell (Muslim Spain). Keep up the good work :)
@zerik_barcafan
@zerik_barcafan 7 ай бұрын
Wow this comment has to be preserved. And he didn't edit it. Are you still watching alt history hub? If so your a true fan.
@OleeHem
@OleeHem 7 ай бұрын
Still here :)
@zerik_barcafan
@zerik_barcafan 7 ай бұрын
@@OleeHem Wow that's crazy, you for sure deserve some acknowledgement.
@CasualHistorian
@CasualHistorian 11 жыл бұрын
Was it possible for the Soviets to win? Yes. However the Soviets winning doesn't mean the US has to go communist. Of course this all depends on how you define the struggle of the Cold War. Was it Democracy/Capitalism vs Totalitarian/ Communism, or was it simply a struggle for power between the governments of the United States and the USSR. Given the actions of both powers during the cold war I would have to say that the latter scenario is more true. So if we look at the Cold War in this way, we could have the Soviet Union win, with expanding global influence, and the US losing, meaning shrinking global influence. Basically I think a real American loss looks more like Isolationism then the US going communist. Despite all this I like what you are doing to give attention to a genre that is all to often ignored, and when it does appear it tends to be half assed. Continue the good work, and I look forward to more.
@michaelfazio7753
@michaelfazio7753 9 жыл бұрын
socialism and communism are 2 very different things
@FrankieJames7
@FrankieJames7 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Fazio actually they are pretty much the same thing, the economic workings are basically the same.
@michaelfazio7753
@michaelfazio7753 9 жыл бұрын
There is such thing as democratic socialism
@mclj10
@mclj10 9 жыл бұрын
FrankieJames7 No. There are many differences between Communism and Socialism. The idea is that Socialism is the step before Communism. Socialism has money, class, and inequality, Communism does not. Socialism paves the road for Communism. That's a very dummed down sum up of the traditional Marxist viewpoint at least.
@FrankieJames7
@FrankieJames7 9 жыл бұрын
Mclelland J communism has no state at all and is basically anarchy, and is global. socialism has a government and like you said paves the way to communism, but they are practically the same thing as far as the work force and the way people live goes.
@mclj10
@mclj10 9 жыл бұрын
FrankieJames7 However Communism does not feature either class or a system of money, both of which are present in Socialism.
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird watching this in 2021. Seems so long ago by now. This channel's come so far
@eratonysiad2582
@eratonysiad2582 9 жыл бұрын
I do like how often the words "future" and "video" are used in your episodes.
@ShartyMcFunnybags
@ShartyMcFunnybags 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine all the memes of the USA anthem if the Soviets won the cold war.
@ramunade23
@ramunade23 9 ай бұрын
"oh say can you see?"
@JetHistorian-vv5ji
@JetHistorian-vv5ji 7 ай бұрын
10 years after in 2024 we cant even recgonize this voice he hit puberty
@JermanKell
@JermanKell 10 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but this does not make sense
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 10 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@Nosekname
@Nosekname 9 жыл бұрын
AlternateHistoryHub Makes not sense because the McCarthy Era settle up a deep fear in communism and all communist movement were small and very weak.. so if some revolution would occur it would be something very different, and by the late 60s it was known pretty well that Soviet Union were a horrible place
@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219
@noonecaresaboutgoogle3219 9 жыл бұрын
AlternateHistoryHub i think if the us lost the cold war it would be more likely due to communism taking hold in other capitalist states e.g. in europe and asia. nato would collapse and the us would lose trading partners as countries progressively switched to a form of communism and joined the warsaw pact. eventually the us economy would collapse.
@CobraRedstone
@CobraRedstone 9 жыл бұрын
***** hahah, no standards are not better in Russia now than the USSR, and people can go against Putin but he's got over 70% public opinion rating, there are very few protests against him and those that are are almost always blanketed out by counter protests. There is no way to put it, Russians love him, that's why it's always so quiet over there.
@CobraRedstone
@CobraRedstone 9 жыл бұрын
***** "How the heck do you not see it? You're experiencing it first hand!" because your media tells you lies. That is why I don't see this, that is why none of my friends or family see what your media is telling you. Because they lie
@garret1930
@garret1930 9 жыл бұрын
wow you grew really fast. 1k subs 2 years ago and nearly 300k today.
@BlueLantern2815
@BlueLantern2815 11 жыл бұрын
Happy to support you guys. This channel is the best. I will continue to support you.
@Timasion
@Timasion 9 жыл бұрын
What caused the USSR to fall? Easy. REAGAN!
@CobraRedstone
@CobraRedstone 9 жыл бұрын
No, Boris Yeltsin. Stupid American
@velvetthunder96
@velvetthunder96 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Stuart It was Yeltsin who betrayed Gorbachev and declared the Russian Federation as independent.
@Timasion
@Timasion 9 жыл бұрын
Marcell Less And who set up that situation?
@CobraRedstone
@CobraRedstone 9 жыл бұрын
Marcell Less Gorbachev didn't help the situation by opening up to the world with his rapid reforms. But Yeltsin took advantage against the Soviet Union
@LutherusPXCs
@LutherusPXCs 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Stuart Lol fuck no
@ThornHailsnap
@ThornHailsnap 8 жыл бұрын
"Thanks for bringing us this far. We're gracious for it." I think you mean 'grateful'.
@Beastkingzetta
@Beastkingzetta 10 жыл бұрын
This scenario is Better then "RED DAWN 84'S" scenario
@MrDpisak
@MrDpisak 11 жыл бұрын
Could you do one about what if Yugoslavia never fell? Would appreciate a lot :)
@turtlegamez4274
@turtlegamez4274 Жыл бұрын
As a Croat, if only that had been the case. We would need the west to not fund nationalistic politicians for that to not happen, though. That seems unlikely.
@MrWolfheart111
@MrWolfheart111 8 жыл бұрын
Good videos thanks. Your videos gently stirs emotions form a long time ago.
@thomaspaine3394
@thomaspaine3394 11 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your 1000 subscribers.
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) -Cody
@sgtreznov9869
@sgtreznov9869 3 жыл бұрын
0:50 "One was the failed war in Afghanistan" Pepole in America after the USA retired from Afghanistan: *OH FUCK*
@TheCaitlynMillsap
@TheCaitlynMillsap Жыл бұрын
I hope the USA becomes communist ❤. It's the only ideology for the people.
@strangeperson700
@strangeperson700 9 жыл бұрын
US commie flag looks cool
@dammitthatguy3107
@dammitthatguy3107 9 жыл бұрын
+Damien Mohammed It's a disgrace to America
@hackerraito4837
@hackerraito4837 9 жыл бұрын
Such a revisionism
@RonaldReaganRocks1
@RonaldReaganRocks1 9 жыл бұрын
+Damien Mohammed By 1990, the USSR had a GDP that was less than 40% as big as America's, in spite of having more people. It's people were also less than 40% as rich as each individual American. The poor in the USSR were doing far worse under communism than the poor in America. It was estimated that the poor of the USSR were 40 years behind the poor in America in terms of how much money they had and how many of them owned refrigerators and their quality of healthcare etc. Their healthcare was on par with that of Third World healthcare. 2/3 of Soviet poor people didn't get enough food to eat. The USSR collapsed due to this faulty system, as they couldn't spend on their military what the US spent on its, and the people of the USSR ultimately revolted.
@JovialDescent
@JovialDescent 9 жыл бұрын
+Dammit That Guy Yeah but it looks cool. I find that lot of of flags look cool but they are so offensive.
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI 6 жыл бұрын
Strange Person! xP No I like my current USA Capitalist flag thank you very much!
@scorpioninpink
@scorpioninpink 10 жыл бұрын
a communist/socialist country, american style doesn't really sounds so bad if you ask me... the current system is flawed and politicians keeps on lying anyway...
@Yomega360
@Yomega360 10 жыл бұрын
I think a communist/socialist society wouldn't be so bad if 1. People didn't abuse the system of equality for their own lazy goals 2. It didn't descend into a dictatorship, which it inevitably does in Communism as the government seeks to gain control over more of the economy
@tropicjohnny360
@tropicjohnny360 10 жыл бұрын
Join the Marxists, man. There are more of us here than you might imagine. Solidarity!
@scorpioninpink
@scorpioninpink 10 жыл бұрын
honestly i'm not a communist or socialist... but I did see the vision of Karl Marx minus the dictator part... I've seen countries such as Iceland, Switzerland, and Uruguay who are socialist and they are better than America itself... As long as the system is not abuse then it will work... Capitalism has been abuse in America and look where it got us...
@dirtyjack6300
@dirtyjack6300 10 жыл бұрын
scorpioninpink You do realize that America is deeply socialistic right now..., do you? There is really any truly capitalist ( term coined in marxist terminology).. It's just using capitalist means of production for socialist wellfare statist means .. It needs a free-market, not piggy-backing well-fare.
@scorpioninpink
@scorpioninpink 10 жыл бұрын
barely.... America is a centrist... a moderate in some way and the welfare in America can't even be considered as socialist...
@mrsponkman
@mrsponkman 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1000 subscribers :)
@Escalad5
@Escalad5 3 жыл бұрын
This was 7 years ago he's now over a million
@liljefe3016
@liljefe3016 7 жыл бұрын
Somebody blessed this foo with the perfect voice with this type of video.
@PsyclopsIA
@PsyclopsIA 2 жыл бұрын
The problem here is not the "Soviet economy" being the issue, aka Socialism. Here's REAL history; The problem was the Capitalist reforms that were implemented in the late '80s USSR that derailed their entire economy en masse. When the 90's roll around they are a full blown Liberal Democracy, with Milton Freidman's Capitalism full blown with the training wheels kicked off; millions dead in Russia and the former Soviet satellites from starvation after the Capitalist economy lost over 50% of their GDP, with some countries, like Ukraine for example, never recovering to even their level of GDP in the 80s Soviet Socialist economy. Tldr; Capitalist reforms killed the USSR
@SatchelChannel
@SatchelChannel Жыл бұрын
Omg someone spitting facts and not BS? I love you man
@TheRantMaster53
@TheRantMaster53 8 жыл бұрын
There is such an obvious anti-socialist slant to these videos.
@TheRantMaster53
@TheRantMaster53 8 жыл бұрын
***** There's two major types of socialism; authoritarian socialism and libertarian socialism. AS is the type they had in the USSR, North Korea, etc, and that was obviously oppressive to the workers. LS on the other hand grants full autonomy and equality to the workers, which is the complete opposite to what was done in the Soviet Union. I suggest that you look into what socialism is before you paint all socialist ideologies with the same brush.
@TheRantMaster53
@TheRantMaster53 8 жыл бұрын
***** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
@weeabooman2867
@weeabooman2867 8 жыл бұрын
+TheRantMaster53 I see no problem with that.
@hinahanta
@hinahanta 8 жыл бұрын
+PoseidonsFury That is not really true, it is like saying every country that you shove democracy in front of becomes a thriving rich country, I guess that did not work out for the middle East now did it? There are many countries that have Socialist and Communist parties with in their governments that are doing just fine.
@hinahanta
@hinahanta 8 жыл бұрын
yes, they are
@justanormalhttydfan9804
@justanormalhttydfan9804 3 жыл бұрын
0:22 Suddenly: *PUBERTY*
@shengfengzheng4133
@shengfengzheng4133 6 ай бұрын
quite reasonable analysis with nearly no pride,good
@narayasuiryoku1397
@narayasuiryoku1397 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t knew he started KZbin that early.
@thedarkwolfsif1750
@thedarkwolfsif1750 7 жыл бұрын
If the Soviet Union won the war, it would be my dream true. May its glory return one day.
@aleksshev5506
@aleksshev5506 10 жыл бұрын
Hm, I am suprised that you are being impartial and do not fall to stupid propaganda on this issue. The problems of USSR are shown mostly accurate, and the US problems got covered as well. It's nice to see that someone doesn't see the world as black and white and keeps it close to the truth. Good job, keep it up. :)
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) It means a lot to hear fans say that. -Cody
@user-ew6ff7wg7y
@user-ew6ff7wg7y 10 жыл бұрын
Intercede to this comment, I'm tired propaganda. It is important to show all points
@meowxsquared8678
@meowxsquared8678 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: cold war isnt over!
@chiefbeef9905
@chiefbeef9905 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you redo this topic in more depth
@Bigkingnecromancer
@Bigkingnecromancer 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video! (Also I am now your 8,888 subscriber)
@RokaSoka
@RokaSoka 11 жыл бұрын
I have one how about what if Ancient Egypt never fell?
@Adam-ni6ne
@Adam-ni6ne 10 жыл бұрын
Ancient Egypt never really fell. They were gradually Hellenized until they WERE finally annexed by Rome, but by that point they had lost much of their power.
@RokaSoka
@RokaSoka 10 жыл бұрын
Actually they did fall. Their ancient state and culture no longer exist so it is pretty much what I meant. It is not the same so i'm saying what if it was.
@Adam-ni6ne
@Adam-ni6ne 10 жыл бұрын
RokaSoka As I said, they were gradually Hellenized (culture non-existent anymore) and whatever was left was finally annexed by Rome (ancient state no longer existing.)
@RokaSoka
@RokaSoka 10 жыл бұрын
I still want to know what if that didn't happen though. Suppose Ancient Egypt never lost its culture or was not conquered. Like in his What if Rome never fell series? This should not be hard to understand.
@Adam-ni6ne
@Adam-ni6ne 10 жыл бұрын
RokaSoka Well it would be hard to nearly impossible to lose their culture, considering there almost none in the first place. Also, Ancient Egypt is really overdone. Similar Meso-American cultures did far more than the Egyptians ever did, but yet people seem fixated on Egypt.
@SkyguyFilmsZooruvfilms
@SkyguyFilmsZooruvfilms 7 жыл бұрын
This would be heaven.
@iainmair485
@iainmair485 2 жыл бұрын
At no time did Russia practice communism. Their “communism” was totalitarian and authoritarian in nature, with a highly centralized government overseeing it. Bolshevism, Leninism, Stalinism, were better ways to describe Russian society.
@SatchelChannel
@SatchelChannel Жыл бұрын
Dude there were soviets, It wasnt a top down economy as american think. It was localized with soviets managing production
@randomsheep2949
@randomsheep2949 3 жыл бұрын
Cody's voice is different from 2021
@alienwatcher93
@alienwatcher93 10 жыл бұрын
In fact, Soviet Economy was healthy until market reforms started to appear. When Khrushchov made the first Market reforms in the 60's, the healthy economy inherited from Stalin's administration started to grow slower (but not collapsing) and when Gorbachov started his Perestroika, the economy started to collapse. It was capitalism and not communism which failed in Russia
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 10 жыл бұрын
That is not true. They tried market reform out off desperation- something had to be done. It did not turn the USSR economy around but a change was needed badly.
@TrickyTrickyFox
@TrickyTrickyFox 9 жыл бұрын
Peter Magro nah, Khrushchov was one of those "I want to try new things because YAY" guys. He was interested in "the ways of capitalism" and his reforms to "renew" Communism basically started killing it. Information about outer world - was not something, that was forbitten in USSR. Funny to say, it's the other way around: if you wanted to be educated in USSR - you HAD to learn at least one foreign language and at LEAST get information about situation from outer world via local Soviet media or by GOING to other countries (and yes, workers were FORCED into abroad vacations in USSR :D).
@boomerjojo5399
@boomerjojo5399 9 жыл бұрын
IF the sino-soviet split never happened, I think the soviets could of had a chance at "winning" the cold war
@karsentube13yt
@karsentube13yt 4 жыл бұрын
2 words that explain the USSR’s failure: Michail Gorbachev (He gave more freedom and just let the Soviet puppet states secede)
@zwgrafoug1351
@zwgrafoug1351 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong the correct answer is: Joseph Stalin this guy just destroyed all what Lenin and Trotsky were fighting for he was not a communist/socialist he was a monster that fooled hes ppl with lies. Imagine if trotsky was on power soviet union would be more strong than ever now lol
@charitysworld2177
@charitysworld2177 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think you can pretty much blame everyone who ruled the USSR. Like, Stalin caused problems to the economy and Brezhnev as well. Gorbachev tried to fix the problems Brezhnev caused, but that ended in a mess.
@zwgrafoug1351
@zwgrafoug1351 4 жыл бұрын
@@charitysworld2177 true only trotsky was the chosen one to be the leader of USSR lol
@puhpuh3037
@puhpuh3037 4 жыл бұрын
@@zwgrafoug1351 Lenin and Trotsky fucked up in allowing Stalin to take power, if not for him we could've seen a strong, democratic USSR.
@blankblank5409
@blankblank5409 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck him. He should’ve destroyed Yeltsins party and said no
@TommySmokeChannel
@TommySmokeChannel 8 жыл бұрын
Socialism never dies. We will be back!
@realneontv
@realneontv 6 жыл бұрын
Your channel has grown so much since then!
@FrasierCraft
@FrasierCraft 10 жыл бұрын
Anti-red much haha. Hey Captain America, everything isn't black/white, good/bad so on...
@jacksonreid4824
@jacksonreid4824 8 жыл бұрын
1:11 THE FIRST USE OF THE HISTORY MAN
@tran.srights7906
@tran.srights7906 5 жыл бұрын
oh my god, this is beautiful. I want to move to that timeline
@OswaldMarcRogers
@OswaldMarcRogers 8 жыл бұрын
What happened to that Tyler guy?
@cwdragonite795
@cwdragonite795 9 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the situation really briefly on this video, but you should do a video on what would happen if the USSR did not enter afganistan! You could focus upon the mujadin and their role in the politics of afganistan and it's surrounding countries- and what would happen between the ussr and USA
@josephstalin7928
@josephstalin7928 8 жыл бұрын
This video really means a lot to me
@MikeFilmStudios25
@MikeFilmStudios25 10 жыл бұрын
You forgot one important factor, Chernobyl. Arguable the biggest and final nail in the coffin for the USSR
@Gromodar
@Gromodar 10 жыл бұрын
I like how some of the people come up with retarded ideas and think they solved the world's mysteries.
@MikeFilmStudios25
@MikeFilmStudios25 10 жыл бұрын
Илья Жданович С помощью переводчика: Что вы подразумеваете?
@jeepersitsmeepers
@jeepersitsmeepers 10 жыл бұрын
Mr. zshdanavich probably means that he thought Chernobyl was not as important as the other factors. I disagree with him personally, but I do acknowledge the need to understand where he IS right. Overall, Chernobyl was a disaster for the people of Soviet occupied Ukraine at the time, and it really damaged the trust that the WORLD had towards the Soviets because they lied about it, and for the longest time, denied such an accident had happened. Internally, however, the information of the event was even more suppressed and stories turned into rumors discredited as lies far before information ever hit the public in major cities such as Leningrad and Moscow.
@SmokinStalin
@SmokinStalin 10 жыл бұрын
MikeFilmStudios25 maybe he means that it wasn't that big problem what could be a "nail" i think USSR mostly fall because of influence of Western Media and problems with economy
@th3omachos
@th3omachos 6 жыл бұрын
Chernobyl was like to give punch on Simeone having A heart attack
@GabrielGarcia-km2ou
@GabrielGarcia-km2ou 3 жыл бұрын
This world would be so much better
@agmg3059
@agmg3059 10 жыл бұрын
Dude war in Afghan didnt faill they keep it ocupied for 10 -15 years chek history more
@Fezboyz
@Fezboyz 6 жыл бұрын
Soviet 'victory' in the Cold War would simply mean that the west accepts Soviet domination over the East Bloc forever and gives up military build-up to counter the Warsaw Pact, not a global communist revolution. That's what the USSR was mostly trying to achieve. This was almost accomplished in the 70s but in the 80s the tide shifted dramatically.
@KamikazethecatII
@KamikazethecatII 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, and congratulations.
@tukiluki2534
@tukiluki2534 10 жыл бұрын
What if the British never invaded India or her other colonial possessions?
@leftylaura9164
@leftylaura9164 3 жыл бұрын
the good ending
@American_Simian
@American_Simian 9 жыл бұрын
so many edgy teens talking about how communism is kewl in the comments
@kattenelvis1778
@kattenelvis1778 9 жыл бұрын
"ohh stoopid capitalism it sukz kommunism tots work guyz!!1! stalin such a gr8 guy he made everyone l1ve 900 yers 0ld and usa sukz!!11"
@scarletarmada5637
@scarletarmada5637 9 жыл бұрын
+judah baez If you honestly think communism is edgy, I suggest you exit the front door.
@American_Simian
@American_Simian 9 жыл бұрын
Scarlet Armada i don't think communism is edgy, i think its a system of government which killed alot of people. i think the teens that don't know shit about it think it's edgy and kewl
@scarletarmada5637
@scarletarmada5637 9 жыл бұрын
yes, communism was a complete failure, but it was *Stalin* who killed innocents who opposed him, not the economic system. but to be fair, if the USSR's government system was as strong as many governments in the First World, corrupt Stalin would've never abused his power in the first place
@Cosmalano
@Cosmalano 9 жыл бұрын
Communism failed in the USSR because it was a subset of communism known as Marxist-Leninism or Stalinism. The "kewl" communism is Marxism. The two are vastly different and the major issue is that you can not transition from a capitalist society straight into a communist society. You need to have an intermediate socialist society and Marx made note of this when he came up with communism. The USSR never had this socialist period, and you could attribute their failures to that. That, and the terrible idea that was Stalinism. And yes, please attempt to patronize supporters of Marxism as your profile picture is a flower from Super Mario or the Joker. I didn't realize grown ups would be in the comment section.
@jstoned88
@jstoned88 3 жыл бұрын
Puberty hit him different
@SuperRichyrich11
@SuperRichyrich11 8 жыл бұрын
This channel has come a long ways in 3 years...
@JediDante
@JediDante 9 жыл бұрын
i am a communist *braces self for massive argument*
@veselina69
@veselina69 8 жыл бұрын
+JediDante sir, no need for a argument. i am too :)
@Warsie
@Warsie 8 жыл бұрын
+JediDante hi, comrade ;)
@xabiyarza
@xabiyarza 8 жыл бұрын
+Warsie hi, comrades, soon communism will rise again!
@weeabooman2867
@weeabooman2867 8 жыл бұрын
+JediDante If only you knew what actual communism was.
@Haon0012
@Haon0012 8 жыл бұрын
+JediDante I salute you comrades, brace yourselves for the coming revolution!
@justanotherone9451
@justanotherone9451 8 жыл бұрын
actually USA didnt win Cold War,USSR breaks and the war is off
@ricardomendes3450
@ricardomendes3450 8 жыл бұрын
for me it never ended,the diference is that Soviet Union changed is name to the Russian Federation.
@mzal2326
@mzal2326 7 жыл бұрын
JustAnotherOne :-: Just a refresher when a side in the war surrenders or just vanishes then the other side won easy right?
@AliMagerramov
@AliMagerramov 8 жыл бұрын
As an former Soviet citizen,I can say only way to save USSR was: 1.Give freedom (Gorbachev already did) 2.Change economy to free market (capitalism) 3.Meet people and explain situation 4. Declare state of emergency or martial law 5. Ban Communist party and arrest members 6. Call US for help.(if they need) i am so upset for collapse of such a great union.
@mynameisntjohncena9957
@mynameisntjohncena9957 8 жыл бұрын
So basically make USSR the US 2.0 with more territories?
@maksymcazymir1727
@maksymcazymir1727 8 жыл бұрын
I think yup
@AliMagerramov
@AliMagerramov 8 жыл бұрын
My name isn't John Cena yep
@AliMagerramov
@AliMagerramov 8 жыл бұрын
My name isn't John Cena China already did some of these actions and didn't collapsed
@ssjgarfield
@ssjgarfield 11 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1000 subscribers =D My suggetion would be: What if the Russian Revolution never occured and the Russian empire survived to at least the present day?
@syrex076
@syrex076 Жыл бұрын
his voice is so teenager like, if you showed me this before I watched him and the showed me him in a video 4 days ago I would say: so are they both about history
@hp2893
@hp2893 3 жыл бұрын
Tankie time boyssssss
@randy109
@randy109 10 жыл бұрын
I got my degree in Economics in 1977 and have read all the classics in the last 45 years. I know why Communism doesn't work, and Socialism does work if it is not applied too liberally. True, Free Market Capitalism will make the entire (overall) economy the biggest and best, but does leave a large percentage of people as "losers" who suffer greatly at the hands of the Free Market system. These people have to be taken care of (to a certain degree) otherwise true Capitalism would be horrid for about 70% of the population. Finding the right balance is the trick, except no two people can decide what this "right" balance is. That's where a lot of countries stand right now. Using the USSR to say that Communism 'doesn't work' is not fair because it was a dictatorial police state and not truly Communist anyway. True Communism works great in small groups like families, religious communes (Kibbutz) and the 1st Century Christians. In a larger State the people will shirk their duties and responsibilities every time it is tried. Human nature prevents true Communism from ever working, but in simulations (like Economic Models) where everybody works hard and doesn't try to game the system Communism works quite well. It just doesn't work with Human Beings, and THAT is a serious problem...
@ufodeath
@ufodeath 9 жыл бұрын
If you were serious about economics (not saying you aren't), you would have probably come across the alternative to capitalism long ago which is: Economic democracy, worker cooperatives, market socialism (the worker cooperatives directly compete in markets), and the abolishment of the state in favor for autonomous democratically managed communities. The key here is that all decisions that take place within the community or the workplace would be represented by individuals proportionate to how those decisions affect their life. So because all decision making processes are inclusive in this matter, this maximizes individual liberty to the greatest extent currently imaginable.
@TheProKid69420
@TheProKid69420 9 жыл бұрын
You don't need a degree to know that communism and socialism don't work
@Agustx0
@Agustx0 9 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@CyberPancakesXD
@CyberPancakesXD 11 жыл бұрын
What if Europe embraced Islam instead of Christianity?
@profsat5
@profsat5 11 жыл бұрын
Great video,I subbed keep up the the good work.
@connorhalleck2895
@connorhalleck2895 6 жыл бұрын
this scenario sounds awesome let's do it
@Liberater4589
@Liberater4589 11 жыл бұрын
wait without you we would be nothing :( well... I mean well...
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 11 жыл бұрын
Ha ha thanks :) -Cody
@Liberater4589
@Liberater4589 11 жыл бұрын
no probs Codes
@fable2omg
@fable2omg 9 жыл бұрын
What a stupidly narrow minded thing to say that the USSR's economy is the reason it fell, they used that propaganda slang since the 1910's, it's literally 100 years old to say a Communist economy will not stand, but that's total bullshit because a Communist state needs no economy, the USSR fell because of shortage of foods, because Eastern Europe was falling apart. It's like saying protesters in Moscow during 1991 were anti-Communists, which is total bullshit, they protested for the return of true Communism, the spirit of the soviets didn't fall because they realized American imperialism was suddenly somehow morally right, their spirit fell because of the collapse of Eastern Europe gave them the feeling that they worked all those years for nothing. Americans will never understand the Russian mentality. Stop pretending you do.
@fable2omg
@fable2omg 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as I said, he's narrow minded. He knows what happened to the USSR, not in the USSR. And he's trying to cover both.
@fable2omg
@fable2omg 9 жыл бұрын
Fine. but I'll always see him as intensely biased, because on one of his videos he started with "Today we know communism is evil, but it wasn't always that obvious". And that is a fundamental problem we have today, it's that nobody sees any alternative to capitalism anymore, and considering capitalism is currently crashing the same way communism did, this isn't good..
@zg76
@zg76 9 жыл бұрын
Rainbow Soviet Dash The economic calculation problem!
@myXotherXprofile
@myXotherXprofile 9 жыл бұрын
The USSR didn't exist in 1910
@InternetResearch
@InternetResearch 9 жыл бұрын
Kyle Vernon 77% voted against the disintegration of the Soviet Union in a referendum. It collapsed due to the failed implementation of Gorbachev's economic policies. On a side note, I enjoyed the rest of the video.
@grassyho1478
@grassyho1478 11 жыл бұрын
Make your videos longer please they are too interesting!
@jesusofsuburbia8825
@jesusofsuburbia8825 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, didn’t notic how hard puberty hit Cody
@kvothekingkiller1754
@kvothekingkiller1754 4 жыл бұрын
The world would be FUCKING BASED
@xbnxjxjxcncn9460
@xbnxjxjxcncn9460 3 жыл бұрын
king
@mmmmm9910
@mmmmm9910 7 жыл бұрын
How could you not want America to fall to communism?
@yordyortiz6386
@yordyortiz6386 11 жыл бұрын
would happen if Russia was not communist
@blankblank5409
@blankblank5409 3 жыл бұрын
Its economy would be worse
@BadzoTheTomato187
@BadzoTheTomato187 10 жыл бұрын
Communism without Dictaitorship??? Sign me fucking up.
@pauldickinson3961
@pauldickinson3961 2 жыл бұрын
"And then I didn't."
@josephstalin2832
@josephstalin2832 8 жыл бұрын
What if the nazis never attacked the Soviet Union
@TheamazingSeal
@TheamazingSeal 10 жыл бұрын
I see communism as a nice ideology, but unfortunately, no one never really tried it.
@TheamazingSeal
@TheamazingSeal 10 жыл бұрын
UberFlippy Venezuela never even tried communism. And Russia fell of due to Stalin.
@hypochondriac3194
@hypochondriac3194 9 жыл бұрын
***** Stalin was Russia's first communist leader...
@ufodeath
@ufodeath 9 жыл бұрын
UberFlippy Why you are 'correct' Uber. Communism is stateless after all due to the goal of eliminating all forms of coercive, abusive or exploitative hierarchies. Communism is an anarchistic system, which democratizes businesses (turns them into worker cooperatives), democratizes communities, and runs off the principle that every decision that is made politically, socially, or economically, are made by individuals proportionate to how those decisions affect their lives. Anyone having power over others such as the type of feudalism you get with capitalism, or the bureaucracy you get with the state are abolished. Technically capitalistic businesses are not banned, they are just viewed as systems of wage-slavery in which people have no choice but to except their labor being exploited and self-management being restricted or otherwise starve. So USSR, china, etc, and any bourgeoisie ran economy are anti-communistic and anti-anarchistic in nature. In anarchism, you have no rulers, you manage yourself, and since power is equalized, people have the incentive to treat everyone else with mutual respect in order to for example run a successful worker cooperative, or improve the community, etc.
@ufodeath
@ufodeath 9 жыл бұрын
Andloo Yunty anti-communist leader you mean. The state is an anti-communist construct. Power is supposed to belong to the people directly. Communities are supposed to be autonomous. Businesses are supposed to be democratically operated by the workers directly. Healthy markets and other economic phenomena are an extremely vital function to this process.
@hypochondriac3194
@hypochondriac3194 9 жыл бұрын
Sokami Mashibe If it wasn't for him, there would never be any communist countries.
@Messiah114
@Messiah114 9 жыл бұрын
The bias,it could not get any more obvious.
@JovialDescent
@JovialDescent 9 жыл бұрын
+Soviet “mr” Canuck Your bias can't be more obvious
@someone-mf1wc
@someone-mf1wc 5 жыл бұрын
The ussr didn't want a cold war, just peace
@skeletonwguitar4383
@skeletonwguitar4383 4 жыл бұрын
Watching back Cody's old videos, he sounds like he put his fingers on his nose as he talks.
@SealyAl
@SealyAl 10 жыл бұрын
USSA 4 Ever!
@conradsurak6060
@conradsurak6060 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao i love hearing someone that has no idea how communism works telling me what would happen 💀 😂
@blankblank5409
@blankblank5409 3 жыл бұрын
He also speaks like communism and socialism is the same thing..........
@conradsurak6060
@conradsurak6060 3 жыл бұрын
@@diazkohen2149 which of Stalin's works did you find most revisionist?
@conradsurak6060
@conradsurak6060 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverroberts7490 absolutely 💯
@conradsurak6060
@conradsurak6060 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverroberts7490 lol yeah I know I was once just as unaware full disclosure I was a republican southern missionary Baptist and vehemently anti communist into my mid 30s and only truly started studying theory in order to debunk it but when you learn enough you're forced to become a Marxist or a liar
@gsuhz41
@gsuhz41 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverroberts7490 of course you say this, and have a Lenin picture. Maybe I’d be more sympathetic to ur cause if most communists didn’t like tyrants
@thatonegrizzlytank2326
@thatonegrizzlytank2326 5 жыл бұрын
Мир снова будет великим! THE WORLD WILL BE GREAT AGAIN!
@CyberPancakesXD
@CyberPancakesXD 11 жыл бұрын
Where did you find that Gear, Sickle, and Hammer picture for the American Communists?
@bryansylvestrew5024
@bryansylvestrew5024 4 жыл бұрын
Damn i hope he remakes this video at some point
@TheTC
@TheTC 4 жыл бұрын
I like how this video starts out with what's been happening in USA the past two decades LOL
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