What If... the Watcher Broke His Oath? | What If Ep 9 Reaction

[@YaBoyRoshi]

what a finale!

[@Anne-mn9fs]

Can u react to justice league war then batman and superman on apocalypse there both animated movies but u need to watch both of them just so u can understand how much of a problem darkside it's. Pls🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 and it's funny af🤣

[@jerblox4667]

Bruh

[@him_-_]

Fire

[@vex8895]

Did u guys watch SAO and if not i would recommend it

[@hamhockbeans]

Gamora episode was pushed to season 2

[@kings.a.w8587]

When Thor says "I trust everyone" and you realize it's because he didn't have Loki

[@christianephrem160]

Oh yeahh 😂.

[@rickydickydoodaa]

Damn.

[@317cmrogers]

(Surprised Pikachu face)

[@hammadisntreal]

but he literally mentioned loki in this episode. plothole?

[@dwightsmith1123]

@@hammadisntreal Episode 7

[@ericbr7]

Strange Supreme is gonna spend eternity resting his back from carrying this team.

[@hyemu1822]

He deserves a good vacation sun bathing on the beach with all the carrying he did.

[@todayisthedayofsalvation]

Or he at least redeemed himself after destroying his universe

[@NaughtyWeiss]

It’s actually pretty cool that Widow got sent to the Universe where the Avengers got killed by Hank Pym, and Loki was trying to take over Earth.

[@deanfernandes7604]

Oh, I didn't realize that

[@ProtossTempest]

Connecting ALL the episodes. Too bad the Gamora one got delayed amd moved over to Season 2

[@dexkani9993]

Naaah, Iron Man is alive in this one plus Loki is always trying to take over Earth in most Universes

[@Qbesent]

@@dexkani9993 no, Hank pym killed Tony in that universe too, only cap and captain marvel are alive in the avengers. Now they got Black widow from a different universe.

[@jinshim2536]

@@dexkani9993 Tony died first in that universe lmao

[@StopReadingMyNameOrElse]

Watcher flexing at the end to Strange. "I had it handled the whole time." Wonder if he did this just so he could be a part of the stories he loves so much.

[@YoureRightIThink]

The watcher was writing a self insert fan fiction, confirmed

[@sandro8643]

@@YoureRightIThink he is y/n

[@Marpen1980-Live]

No. He had it handled by using them to do it. He wasn't saying that he didn't need them.

[@Haz1Art]

@@Marpen1980-Live thats.. the point...

[@Marpen1980-Live]

@@Haz1Art that's not the point R B made.

[@aanyamallick7747]

When Ultron said "You,it's you,if I take you out you all fall" You know my mans Strange Supreme was the MVP

[@calebstephan2083]

Exactly. The only reason they were all still alive was because of strange continuously buffing them with spells. If he didn't they would've been dead in seconds.

[@ProtossTempest]

Ultron realized the tanks have been pulling aggro. Should be focusing on the support on the enemy team

[@haxsvg9372]

@@ProtossTempest always focus on the supports of any team. One of the #1 rules.

[@lockerbuddy2039]

Honestly, if Ultron had an understanding of Strange's past, I GUARANTEE he could've linked up with Strange by going 'AYO, I can help you get your gf back, let's vibe'. Goddamn.

[@Erebus008]

@@ProtossTempest Lulu/Soraka bitchass type of supports...

[@ttb8932]

Ultron: "I can destroy galaxies with a thought" Also Ultron: *Gets killed by virus*

[@anjaneyasreetrout2444]

Tbf he was caught off guard at the moment. Also I guess the infinity stones can't really do much when the mind of the user itself gets infected.

[@Solqueen86]

Should've got that Malware update

[@destroyerblackdragon]

It makes you think because Ultrons whole mind was created from the mind stone and yet it can be overtaken by Human technology.

[@mcdonaldsicecreammachine3678]

@@destroyerblackdragon Well technically Ultron himself is man made via Stark he's just in a body powered by the mind stone, so it's not too far fetched to say any kind of technological virus strong enough could corrupt/destroy him from the inside

[@ProtossTempest]

Always remember to update your antivirus. Friggin Tony gave him some software from 2003

[@Adumkk]

Supreme Strange was the MVP hands down

[@medshel703]

Even ultron knew he was the MVP

[@Phasmania]

It’s literally that “Justice League at 99.9% strength: Superman, Justice League at 100% strength: everyone else” meme but for the guardians of the multiverse. Even Ultron was like, “if Strange dies everyone else is fodder”

[@baiongammax5236]

Indeed

[@jaydahumantwig]

@@Phasmania actually it’s opposite they really only won cuz of strange the jsl won cuz of them all

[@averilazurbatoy6853]

@Trashthlete he became perfect form because he absorbed the good strange without the good strange he's not that too powerful

[@Rensune]

Literally Everyone: "Why'd they bring him?" Later: "Oh"

[@2ELI0]

Watcher being steps ahead.

[@diegodeluquev1433]

He needed someone to sacrifice for the plan to work, and who better than Killmonger, plus, it's his punishment to fight a battle he will never win due to his greed.

[@arcanelight8365]

killmonger was necessary cz arnim zola would take over ultron and will take his place..so the situation wouldnt change...killmonger stalemated with arnim zola so that doctor strange and watcher could trap both of them in a pocket universe

[@Marpen1980-Live]

@@arcanelight8365 we know that. That's what @Rensune was saying.

[@pamoweiberezi5315]

@@arcanelight8365 kill monger is human though,he'll die oi

[@xenohusky5979]

I would really like to know the power scaling on Infinity Ultron and Dark Strange, those two are ridiculously powerful. Also, this show is amazing because the characters get to be as powerful as their comic book counterparts.

[@yashaoftheflames8475]

Based off the episode Ultron is slightly above strange

[@Slayer8957]

I assume anyone who has risen to a level of existence that they can perceive the multiverse is at the ultimate level. They would be at equal strength. Just the infinity stones tilted it in Ultron's favor, but Strange having one for himself also helped even the odds.

[@firebreathingguy561]

Wonder if Dark Strange can absorb the infinity stones

[@Birthday888]

@@Slayer8957 Yeah. Strange can handle all of Ultron's energy based attacks via his absorption sorcery, but it's shown repeatedly that Ultron can simply overpower Strange physically, except in his monster form. It's probably why the Watcher chose people who could tank Ultron's hits either via natural durability or vibranium.

[@welingtondiniz8200]

Both are able to destroy the universe, I think at this point they're both nexus beings

[@jaylenharris343]

14:20 That was a nice reference to the og Armin Zola. In the comics he had a robot body with his face on his chest and a camera for a head. Kinda like krang fromTmnt.

[@Trafast]

WHY THE STONES WORKED- Ultron wasn't using the stones conventionally. He was essentially using them to power himself, like batteries. For example, we've never seen the green light of the power stone used offensively EXCEPT when Ultron uses it. That's why he didn't just turn The Watcher into bubbles or something. ALSO - You we're right about them NOT working in the TVA because that place cancels all magic energies

[@speedy01247]

I heard he uses it on himself since he is from his universe so rather then generally attacking with it, he alters himself instead. Same reason stranges infinity stone worked, but only on himself, making him immune to Ultron's time stone power.

[@jbg7704]

@Travis Williams Where is that said/mentioned

[@chocofountain]

yes, when they fought on this episode, it's on ulltron's original universe. he could have won if dr strange didnt use his time stone

[@oddmaniaproductions]

That's not at all what was going on with this show. The reason they work is because this is MCU aka new rules. The whole thing about the stones don't work in other universes is in the comics. The MCU never established that rule. And even if Ultron tried using the stones on himself outside of his universe that still wouldn't work given the comic rule said they don't work at all in other universes. Also I'm pretty sure Dr Strange used his time stone to negate Ultron's and that wouldn't work if the comic rules was in place here lol.

[@oddmaniaproductions]

Even the writers "explanation" doesn't make any sense given Ultron was able to influence the planets and project his face in the sky. That's not powering himself that's using the stones on that universe.

[@ProtossTempest]

Ultron Infinity: *Casts Supernova* Strange Supreme: "Finally, some good friggin food"

[@itzskir6832]

Alot of people dont seem to realize that, the universe The Watcher took Widow to was the one where Hank Pym killed all the Avengers in episode 3.

[@thesilverbeast6092]

You’d think hearing replacement avengers and the fight between nick fury and Loki would be an excellent tip off

[@MrJhound4]

@@thesilverbeast6092 I was surprised Roshi or Sheera didn't catch it.

[@davidyodo24]

I get that

[@jaredclarke4976]

Funny thing is that in the Loki series Loki is never supposed to win. He thought he won in 'What If' but then black widow drop kicks him out of nowhere. Even the Watcher doesn't want Loki to win lol

[@DizRupTnz]

Party Thor's universe where he got to live a happy healthy life among other Frost Giants is arguably Loki 'winning'. The TVA likely would have shut that timeline down as soon as Odin returned Loki before it became an established universe. If it wasn't for TVA Loki and Sylvie's fuckery that universe (and the entire What If show itself) wouldn't have existed at all.

[@unforeseeable2.058]

@@DizRupTnz I actually think the TVA would allow Strange’s universe to exist mainly because since everything got destroyed then there’s no Kang.

[@popcornlieutenant]

Yo Roshi is funny. He's one of those characters who would unintentionally mis direct the whole group in an apocalypse, spittin "facts."😂Meanwhile the audience is just like "nooo stop listening to this dude."

[@josev4338]

His McAfee joke was hilarious and no one even reacted lol.

[@wackyswacky1374]

The show actually finished pretty strong. I like how they brought all the separate stories together at the end, and Ultron-Vision was pretty fire.

[@ikhwanmauaja1184]

The choreography tho. It's just one of the best in animated series

[@fabiobelrause5071]

Watcher pulled up like Raiden saying “You have been chosen” and shit

[@ProtossTempest]

*Mortal Kombat theme ensues*

[@ChampionOfHammerfell]

I’m surprised that many reactors didn’t notice that Black Widow was sent to the dimension where Ant Man kills the avengers.

[@captaintf7759]

What the hell? Your right. I didn’t even notice.

[@revival9313]

In their defense, the inclusion of Captain America and Marvel were at the tail end of that episode, and it’s the only episode that someone wasn’t chosen from so everyone probably just forgot the episode even existed.

[@ChampionOfHammerfell]

@@revival9313 you right, but Loki taking over with Asgardian soldiers was a dead giveaway

[@haseoxv9508]

@@ChampionOfHammerfell yeah and there's 3 hint that they should have notice it right away. 1.the world where widow dieds 2.only Cap and captain marvel defending the ship 3.and Loki attacking the ship and asking why widow lived that's the hint from me to notice it

[@Qbesent]

Universe*

[@xavier_xplains7248]

This season displayed the absolute best version of Black Widow we’ve ever seen in the entire MCU

[@justpassingthrough1065]

Hope Marvel does more stuff like this in the future

[@SupportGamin2025]

Facts bro

[@Fax1880]

I mean there is literally a season 2 coming.

[@yamomspotatosalad818]

@@Fax1880 is there a date?

[@maschenny28]

@@yamomspotatosalad818 not yet, maybe after gotg vol 3 because one of "what if" episode is delayed because they contain gotg vol 3 spoiler

[@Winn3r__]

@@yamomspotatosalad818 same time next year I believe

[@Magee25]

I advise anyone not to look up information about that version of Gamora. She was part of an intended episode that focused on that version of Iron Man and didn’t make it this season due to production problems during covid. The episode will be added in season 2

[@SMD2x]

figured that's what it was.

[@GreaterSociety]

Who the fuck r u to tell peoplr what to do?

[@christianephrem160]

@@GreaterSociety advice doesn’t mean DO IT !! 😮.

[@kyohi505]

@@GreaterSociety You are why society is not great

[@davidyodo24]

@@GreaterSociety your name doesn't suit your comment

[@NigelByrd]

Let me Explain: the reason why the stones work and in loki they didn't is because the stones were outside space and time where time and such doesn't follow the way time works in their universe... But since the stones and in different universes work with the same L.O.P in ultron's the stones work the exact same way although different they work the same way as any other infinity stone in any other universe does

[@ChampionOfHammerfell]

I have a question, is the Soul stone the only stone you can grab without any consequence or it’s only the power stone that can kill you if you grab it? Also, I’m guessing the only reason that Killmonger didn’t get hurt by having all the stones at the same time was because he was protected by Dr. Strange’s spell? Because if not then those are plot wholes…

[@thitran1362]

@@ChampionOfHammerfell You can hold the stones without consequences actually, only using it actually cause harm to you. I think Killmonger didn't get hurt due to the advance armor that he take from Ultron.

[@Mxrxuxx]

@@thitran1362 the power stone is the only one shown to be harmful when held

[@Stern4EVERx]

@@ChampionOfHammerfell unless your a god or holder you can't hold the power stone its infinite power.

[@vn9574]

@Pheonix417 bro this stuff is mentioned in the comics too. In the comics its literally said the stones dont work outside of their respective universes, they could have just taken info from their if they didn't know.

[@twinsaiyans4319]

Ultron: I use the stones in the multiverse cause I can Everyone: it don't work like dat chief

[@corryjamieson3909]

Disney: Oh but anythings possible in a multi verse.

[@KEI23675]

i guess I was wrong that the stones don't work outside their universe, I guess the stones were just powered down inside the TVA

[@KiraDaBeastNY]

@@KEI23675 Yeah it was just the TVA, not other universes.

[@KEI23675]

@@KiraDaBeastNY so Loki could've been the strongest if he stole all those horded up stones and took them outside the reach of the inhibiting powers of the TVA ? 😂

[@KiraDaBeastNY]

@@KEI23675 How would he have done that? Bro woulda got clapped before he even completed the attempt, they was not playin with that man lmao. Also Loki was kind of busy getting his whole world torn asunder to go ahead and try that lol.

[@hulkie1016]

Doctor Strange Supreme is the support we all want on our team

[@MrJhound4]

Abso-fuckin-lutely. Stephen had the buffs and heals on lock and even took time for diversions and debuffs.

[@ikhwanmauaja1184]

He basically also tanking numerous of enemies nuke attacks

[@GearShotgun]

Our support: heal yourself The enemy support:

[@iaMk69]

I love how there is a windows disconnect sound playing in the background while they're watching Ultron get shutdown.

[@explorerkiil]

That was editing man

[@pcjohnny]

My initial reaction was "what got unplugged?" and half a second later I realized, that was the genius of the editor XD

[@davidyodo24]

Lmao i thought it was from my PC

[@kymaniworgs7560]

19:10 The person that watches the watcher is his father, the Watcher real name is Uatu, pronounced ( Watu), you can google it if you want. His father sent him to earth to watch & sore a oath to his people not to interfere, although he has interfered 337 times. The real reason why he must not interfere is because he can be punished for it by the council of the Watchers, he had been punished before but that’s another story. The watcher base is on the moon he basically lives there

[@mars99]

In case you guys have question about War Gamora, she was supposed to have her own episode this season (even Lupa in an earlier episode pointed out how weird it was to have 9 episodes). The story was what if Tony stark hit Thanos' ship with the nuke he redirected in the first avengers movie, Gamora would use the havoc to kill Thanos and become new Thanos/Gamora. It was obvious they had more planned this season but scrapped it likely for a second season if they do it.

[@joshua2764]

It's apparently shipped to S2 now due to "COVID complications"

[@x一クソ]

Guardian of the Multiverse in a nutshell; 100%= All of them 99%= Supreme Doctor Strange 😌👌

[@free2928]

Strange can literally do everything, he’s so op lol.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Not as OP as Infinity Ultron though.

[@juanpedraw4245]

@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain the infinity stones were flashing because Ultron was trying to end Strange, but couldn't. Supreme Strange is beyond the power of the Infinity Stone.

[@CyberDalek17]

Hopefully Steve did get some form of serum or something so he doesn't wind up "Death by Snu Snu" with Buff Carter

[@Berenadre]

About the Stones working outside their universe and so you guys get the idea clear: In Loki all they said was the Stones don't work inside the TVA, they never mention anything about not working outside their universe in general. The reason why people thinks about that is because of the comics, in the comics the stones only work inside the universe they were created on. The movies have their own logic and system for many things that are pretty different from the comics.

[@dungeonmaster16]

4:05 if reading for this part. basically from what i heard there was production issues that they couldnt release it in time so the episode with gamora defeating thanos and such will be pushed to season 2.

[@Madderthanjoker]

Black Widow was sent to the universe where Ant-Man clapped the avengers before they became the avengers. I love all of these call backs to previous episodes. Really wished they were longer tho.

[@donq4483]

man the tie-ins from all the episodes was dope, I thought they were all standalone episodes

[@ProtossTempest]

Marvel: "We pulled a fast one on you, didn't we?" :)

[@jcoates32]

Ultron has no imagination with the stones, while strange was the MVP

[@milkduds541]

whoever edits these vids is a goat. the windows sound had me dead

[@G1Transformed]

@YaBoyRoshi, 1:22 Who made the TVA? He Who Remains. Who is he? He is essentially Kang. He might not be Kang the Conqueror Kang, but he was a conqueror of some type, but that's beside the point. He can do the same things his variants can do and we know this because he told us when he explained his past. Kang, though "Just a man. Flesh and blood" is able to go toe-to-toe with superpowered people. Why is that? He's able to do that because he's from the 31st Century and he has access to technologies that allow him to nullify their powers. Why wouldn't this guy, the guy who built the TVA use that technology to in his organization? The TVA has to occasional go up against superpowered people to protect the Sacred Timeline, right? This is likely why magic and the Infinity Stones do not work at the TVA. Magic, does in fact work in the Citadel at the End of Time, as evidenced by both Loki and Sylvie in their battle, and that's likely because He Who Remains willed it so. He gave them access to his domain and he allowed them to make their own choices, and if he was going to be real with them, as he said he would, he'd have to turn off whatever he had on protecting himself--my man, took his hands off the levers of power and we saw things go off the rails pretty fast, so I don't think this is a stretch. Anyway, the stones work where ever they find themselves to be...sort of like the Dora Milaje, lol. You saw it last episode with Ultron jumping from universe to universe, and you'll see it again in this episode with both Ultron and Strange using their respective stones. Aside from the stones being the only thing capable of destroying the stones, it appears that things built in the universe of the stones with that ability can also destroy their respective stones. Anything else is a no go, from what we've seen and were told, so far. 1:29 the MCU =/= the comics. Many fans keep trying to make these two universes the same and they aren't. They are their own separate universes. The MCU is rooted in the comics, yes, but it doesn't follow the comics verbatim--it never has. Every time we fans try to make it fit we end up getting things wrong or disappoint ourselves...look no further than WandaVision or Ultron or Doctor Strange if you will. What if...? Is sort of giving diehard comic fans the characters and powers they've wanted to see while keeping the characters and powers they've been using in the live-action MCU. 11:35 Nidavellir--they showed her there at the beginning with Tony. She, Tony and Eitri were melting down the gauntlet remember? Eitri can make anything! He made a machine to use the power of the Stones, weapons for gods and in Gamora's universe he made a machine to destroy the stones. 15:20 Uatu, the Watcher breaks his oath. We watched him watch the end of 7 universes, and this is the moment he steps in to save 6 of the 7. Uatu cannot undo what's been done, so the world Ultron destroyed, the one Natasha comes from is forever lost. He didn't not make her return to a dead world. Instead he inserted her into the world Hank Pym ruined, the one with King Loki trying to take over the world. From the look of things, Natasha saved the day and Nick Fury, along with Steve Rogers, Carol Danvers, Natasha Romanoff and Phil Coulson are going to make the Avengers with the heroes who came later--Natasha knows of Hydra, Doctor Strange and T'Challa so she'll be able to save them a lot of trouble moving forward. Uatu probably didn't help T'Challa Star-Lord, as it looked like he already had things under control, but if he did that world is about to flourish with Peter fighting along side the Ravagers. The Ultron invasion coming to Vegas is destroyed and Thor's a hero. And from this point forward, I guess he lives happily ever after, lol. The world Erik Stevens screwed over is now free of him. Uatu got Erik to help and he knew Erik's greed would eventually get the better of him. Erik, was needed to defeat Arnim Zola, as someone needed to be sacrificed to trap Zola in a pocket universe and Erik jumped at the chance to do it, lol. Supreme Doctor Strange is stuck, as his universe is gone. That said, Uatu gave him a chance to atone and he did it spectacularly, as he helped save the Multiverse. Strange isn't bitter about it either. He got to spend time with others and he has a friend and a new job. While he has to stay in his own pocket universe, he's no longer alone, and Uatu might pop in from time to time to talk with him, and I suspect that we'll see this Doctor Strange again in the future when they need to trap another threat in a pocket universe far from everyone else. This series was satisfying from start to finish and I love how it all played out. I wish we could have had the Gamora story as it would have given her and Tony more time, but apparently we'll see it next season, but I wonder if it'll get changed up to fit that season more. This was a lot of fun and I cannot wait to see what comes next.

[@kevinjackson7169]

In the case of Steve, I'd think one of three things happened: 1. I can't remember if it shows him properly escaping the portal so there's a chance he got sucked in too and eventually got out somehow. 2. Hydra manages to get hold of him again and Winter soldiers him like Bucky. Or they already did something that slowed his ageing. 3. He's actually just super old in there. Though that one's not really as happy an ending.

[@waciow8628]

Ultron: oh right i have the time stone. Imma use it Dr. Strange: so it's the same type of stone as time platinum

[@badpope]

The infinity stones only working in their own universes is from the comics. The MCU never established this rule for the movies. Just because the stones don’t work in the TVA doesn’t mean they wouldn’t work in alternate timelines.

[@sonbaty5932]

Thank you. I really stopped bothering explaining this to people. They get the explanation and go to another video and ask the same questions. And sadly that's not the only thing they get hung up on. A lot of people seem to think that alternate timelines are different from alternate universes, when in fact they are just two different names to the same thing, and they confuse themselves and other people with them. I blame New Rockstars videos.

[@vesta_nova9208]

I just realized the universe that Widow got sent too was the one where all the avengers got murked by Hank

[@MuffinHunterX]

The best metaphor I think I've ever seen as to why diety-level beings shouldn't interfere in the mortal realm came from a light novel called _In Another World With My Smartphone._ God Almighty tells the MC that basically a god trying to use their power in the mortal plane would be like a human trying to fix a broken spiderweb with a needle and thread. Basically impossible to do without causing more harm than good and better left to the spider in the first place. Note for the most part The Watcher left the fight to the mortals to avoid ripping the multiverse a new one accidentally with his own power.

[@AqwDragulum]

9:18 Nope. Zombie Wanda made that “sad face” was because Ultron was about to blow up the entire planet 😂

[@xeroshadowphantom]

2:24 in one of the comics, Reed Richards(Mr Fantastic) met up with his other counterparts and took him to the council of Reeds. There,showed three different Reeds with the stones and disintegrated when they both used it in the same room.

[@rexarsenio9447]

13:29 Legit thought something came up on my computer lol

[@Beowulf8989]

1:15 Old school comic canon for the Infinity Gems(/Stones) is that they only work within the universe they came from. That said however, we're talking the multiverse with endless possibility, so it's not impossible that Ultra-Ultron's are built different.

[@trevincarroll5978]

So basically, in the comics they shouldn’t work outside their universe, but in the MCU they can work so long as the timeline or universe they came from is still exist. The ones in the TVA are from timelines that were erased, hence why they don’t work

[@saitamasensei267]

Sheera: just the tip Me (a cultured man) : damn it why didn't I think of that

[@jager3090]

The show changed the rules. In the comic book canon, infinity stones can only work in their own respective universe. So if I took the stones from say Universe-1 and travelled to Universe-2, my stones would be rendered useless.

[@tvwrectoss7724]

From what I could come up with : ultron wouldnt have to leave his universe at all - with the space stone powered by all the others, he could theoretically just bring his universe with him. Kind of like a bubble? Simply put - imagine the multiverse as a pile of fabric sheets layered ontop of one another. Now place infinity ultron at the center of a glass bead and put that bead between those sheets. All Ultron would have to do in this scenario is use the stones to "protect and propel" himself, essentially sliding around the multiverse without having to actually leave his own universe. Wanna break through to an alternate universe? Rip through a sheet. Lastly, whenever ultron attacks the wstcher, he'd simply extend his "bubble" to include the watcher when needed. Stretch the bubble along the length of a straight beam of power and whatever it hits gets included into that bubble universe + hit by the beam. But thats just my 2 cents ^_^ lemme know what you all think Oh and ps. Love the reactions!! Bahaha, is there a 4th seat somewhere i can take?! LOL it would be AWESOME having you 3 as friends All the best~

[@lukang5235]

Who watches the watcher: The One Above All, The Living Tribunal, Eternity, Infinity and beings with cosmic awareness and ability can check them. Hopefully season two goes into it.

[@HazySkies]

Starlord: Where is Gamora? Ironman: Yeah, I'll do you one better, who's Gamora? Drax: I'll do you one better, why is Gamora? The Watcher: I'll do you one better. What if Gamora?

[@scribblenutsmak8200]

Thank god for Strange Doctor otherwise they would've majorly fucked that up. They really taught Zola was going to be on their side after disassembling Ultron from within and that Killmonger wasn't going to betray them? Like Watcher gave no warnings beforehand?

[@Sapphire_Reacts]

like strange in infinity war- ☝

[@GamerGrovyle]

Black Widow believed Zola to be the better option than Ultron The others knew Killmonger for like half a day tops and I'm pretty sure he didn't share his dark past with them. Also everything that happened was planned by Watcher to happen

[@farhanlabib-kc7ud]

He has to be the one who sacrifices? Watch the movie doctor strange:Multiverse of Madness. Where he sacrificed to save the planet like hoe tony did to Avengers:Endgame

[@Rensune]

They said "Outside their intended universe" They even confirm it, In this episode, with the Crusher.

[@beepy6161]

They never said that, just showed that the stones were useless at the TVA. The Crusher doesn't confirm anything except that stones in different universes are slightly different

[@DeMoN_Hunt]

Roshi: infinity stones don't work in other universes. " Ultron comes from behind" Ultron: Oh but anything is possible in multiverse bro.

[@DanTheDoodler]

Commenting on your comments from the beginning. I think that the infinity stones didn't work in the Loki show because the TVA exists not just outside the known universe, but the known MULTIVERSE. But it does raise the question of how Ultron got into the watchers domain and started causing trouble

[@piraptor5677]

18:25 bucky was a normal human, still gave cap a hell of a fight

[@atlas94450]

1:37 So guys, in the comics the stones can only work in their home universes BUT also in the comics, you can't use the stones to destroy the stones. Something we saw Thanos do in the MCU. If the ''What IF'' series is part of the MCU then they seem to be using different rules for the way the Infinity Gems (stones) work. Then what the rules are in the comics.

[@GamerGrovyle]

Here's how I understand that the Infinity Stones work according to the MCU rules. With One of the stones you get limited control over that aspect wherever you are. If you have all six at once you gain unlimited control over the entire universe but the blowback will kill or mutilate most living beings. It's not yet shown if having all six stones lets you manipulate universes other than your own. The reason the Infinity Crusher didn't work on Ultron's Stones is because they were different enough than hers that it couldn't properly destroy them. It's kinda like fitting a square block into the circular slot.

[@atheozrevenge]

it was never mentioned in Loki that the stones won't work in other universes, it only said it won't work inside the TVA, which is a pocket dimension outside the multiverse, just like the Quantum Realm. im guessing The Watcher's realm is a pocket dimension within the multiverse just like Strange Supreme's bubble.

[@Moskarth]

Yup stones work in other universes confirmed by this show and also Endgame… alternate timelines in the MCU are essentially the same thing as alternate universes. This is all different from the comics so it’s created some confusion.

[@sheeees5135]

From what I have heard from other marvel KZbinrs and people who know a lot about Marvel cinematic universe they said that they started working on the story for what if back in 2018 so that’s why there’s a lot of inconsistencies with some of the things that are going on in the story but apparently in season two things should be better and connected more.

[@danny7675]

You know, the young lady made a good point that I didn't realize. When Scarlett Witch face dropped, I didn't realize she might of recognized Vision and was like "WTF?😧". I assumed she was like "oh shit that didn't do nothing".

[@MTStingray]

2:03 The 'timeline' the Avengers traveled to in Endgame was not the same universe. It was an entirely different universe, it just wasn't explained well. Otherwise Loki would not still be dead in the original timeline because he escaped in the other timeline. They weren't doing true timetravel, that required the Time stone. They were hopping between alternate universes. Endgame set up things like Loki and What If?

[@thejmeister]

Sheera seems to always pay attention and remember all the details, so trust her when she says things instead of doubting her all the time!

[@p0ppysmic13]

Supreme Strange here is basically the Red Rush of that OmniMan vs Guardians of the Globe battle.

[@magichistory3386]

The best answer I heard to explain why the stones work, is that the watcher isnt looking at different universes, but all the different timelines of one universe playing out. It’s dumb they called it the multiverse as that literally implies multiple universes. But it makes more sense that this one watcher is just viewing all the different times the timeline split in are know mcu universe

[@shiveringtimber49]

Of all characters to be trapped together for eternity, Killmongerer and Zola were not the ones I would've expected

[@jonathancunningham8739]

The tesseract was powering the Stomper maybe that kept Steve alive when he crashed into the ice because in the comic it can keep your body if used properly in a limbo state.

[@kevinjackson7169]

The tesseract got removed by Hydra. That's why Bucky had to jump start the suit and it then ran out of power. Steve had already survived the ice at this point.

[@jonathancunningham8739]

@@kevinjackson7169 But if you remember the Tesseract was on the ground at Steve's knees after Carter went through the portal.

[@tonyjabroni8938]

“he got the infinity stones but he don’t got McAfee installed” PLSS 💀✋

[@desmondjb5257]

I love how tactical this this was. I wondered why the watcher brought together this group in particular. But looking at it now. We have Carter-Uniting Leader Qualities. Gamora-Can destroy the stones. T'Chala-Master Thief Thor-Idk I guess he needed an electric element. Killmonger-He needed him to try and take the stones. Natasha-Brought the virus.. And Strange-His job was to make it so they all could actually fight and survive. MVP.

[@Ser-Lusacan]

The stones work in realitys that obey the same laws of reality

[@quackadoo3101]

Thor screaming when the watcher grabbed him is definitely a reference to Thor: Ragnorok when he was being teleported in the chair.

[@33Lanceman]

Did anyone catch that Easter egg when captain carter and widow mention Bernard. Wasn’t Bernard played by Jeffery Wright on Westworld. That character watched over westworld. Now he is the watcher on What If! Crazy!!

[@jay0546]

The stones work because he is casting them on himself which is a part of his universe since he is now only a robot but a human AND the mind stone… or at least that’s my theory

[@Justakatto]

dr strange just going _yoink_ and eating a whole ass universal explosion was the coolest shit ever

[@terencesdurag2823]

What if was supposed to have 10 episodes but later they changed it to 9. I guess that extra episode was Gamora’s story

[@loadmypantz8287]

Makes sense

[@Sid3kick13]

You are correct

[@ProtossTempest]

Yup, covid

[@mikef2609]

Killmonger went full Vegeta.. You never go full Vegeta😂

[@mrfeedursoul]

In the TVA in the MCU they have "magic" dampeners so that no "magic" works. In the comics the longstanding rule has been that the Infinity Stones don't work outside of the universe that they were created in. The MCU has apparently changed the rules for this series

[@samturner6061]

I thought Steve's genetics from the sujper soldier serum helped him to survive being cryogenically frozen. Maybe they'll open up the hydra stomper and there's old man cap in there smoking a pipe and playing a crossword puzzle. lmao at the 'Reactor, reacts to the watcher' lmao

[@tofu_golem]

I want to say that this really recreated the feeling of wonder I felt reading What If comics as a child in the 1970s. That's an impressive feat given that my tastes are a lot more sophisticated than back then. Kudos to the writers.

[@cody9367]

You guys were right initially about the Infinity Stones working everywhere except the TVA in the Movies/Shows, but I'm pretty sure in the comics they only work in their own universe. It seems like a thing they changed specifically for the MCU to make it more interesting.

[@BJTangerine]

In the comics, I think for the most part yeah the stones only work within their respective universe. But in the MCU, I think they generally work wherever. In the TVA case, the TVA had systems in place to neutralize the stones' abilities while in their dimension.

[@kwahniko]

my theory is that "What If" occurs within a pocket multiverse inside the MCU the same way the MCU was previously a universe, but is now a contained multiverse within the greater marvel multiverse

[@jesushateswood]

From what I've read, Watchers who intervene are tried by a counsel of Watchers. Although the Watcher got involved, he still let the heroes do the work. If Ultron was allowed to destroy the multi-verse, how would that have impacted the Watchers themselves? Ultron had to go.

[@fiercefox4446]

If I can remember correctly there isn’t a watcher who watches the Watcher but there is a kid named Franklin Richards that controls all of Marvel. He does it subconsciously though. Anyone who he doesn’t want to die doesn’t die for as long as he wants, they’re just turned into different timelines and iterations.

[@nvxf5123]

So there was one episode where Tony Stark appeared and DIDN'T die and it was the only episode they couldn't finish? lmao. I'm super hyped for season 2.

[@passdoutcouchpotatos]

Ironically the one episode cut from season 1

[@davidyodo24]

So that is where Gamora comes from

[@Envy1359]

Look back at Endgame where the Avengers travelled back to past timelines to retrieve the Infinity Stones to bring everyone who are wiped out back and the stones from these different timelines still work as Bruce/Smart Hulk and Tony was able to make the snap which Bruce brought everyone who were erased back and Tony snapped to erase past Thanos and his army from existence. So the stones have be in ANY universe to work except if they are in the TVA. Because the TVA is not in any universe at all and is outside of space and time. I guess the stones need space and time to work which universes have. Also, remember how the show LOKI began?

[@TubezThe1]

Technically speaking, the TVA itself is a space that nullifies like any magic or Powers than anyone has. It's in that specific space that the Infinity Stones don't work. In regards to the mcu, nobody ever explicitly said that the stones can't work outside their own reality.

[@alyssam4970]

The Leader watches over the Watchers...love the reaction! Love from Canada

[@Yashaanzm90]

The reason those stones were flickering during the fight between Supreme Strange and Ultravision is because this strange is soooo effin powerful that he gave the friggin infinity stones a good run for their money Also he's not the ONLY Watcher. If you remember Guardians of the Galaxy 2, rocket and yondu were jumping through portals and they went across a world with a few Watcher's and Stan Lee. And the one that governs the Watchers and pretty much all of it is called The One Above All. Basically the god that created all of this in the beginning. Below that I think is the Living Tribunal and then a bunch of celestials like Infinity also mentioned in GOTG 2 and Galactus etc then there's the Eternals/Deviants(Thanos) below that

[@cryingtomatohead8626]

The multiverse is a commutation of different timeliness. The stones would work no matter what timeline/universe they existed in. They didn't work in the TVA because it was the TVA. It cancels all other forms of power including the stones, magic and meta abilities.

[@silverhoof0152]

13:29 that timing kill me, I can't stop replaying.

[@Mileza-ASMR]

i knowwwwww, i'm surprised how few people noticed

[@dwisaputra8286]

I thought that was notif from my phone

[@dwisaputra8286]

I thought that was notif from my phone

[@dawnbreak6470]

The infinity stones don't work on other universes cause they only work in their universes or on things from them, Reason why Ultron can't rewind, Teleport, Rewrite reality, Ultrom can though use the stones on himself like batteries or to boost himself, Which is why he was able to still be as strong, But couldn't use the stoned for their true purposes or how we saw in the main timeline.

[@MrKastila]

guys you all have the best reaction to what if episodes! others talk too much or not enough... you all are perfect... keep it up! new subscriber!

[@thewriter8762]

Strange is like that one over leveled player that bring under level players into his fights and has to carry cuz they’d get one shot by the boss.

[@zomlove8557]

New favorite quote of the week. "He got the infinity stones but he don't got McAfee installed" 🤣

[@johnnyjimenez1324]

The multiverse wasnt activated yet either when the stones werent working which means they only had one universe so the stones only dont work in the tva because they even said time works different in the tva the laws dont apply there

[@hulkie1016]

9:54 Ultron destroys the galaxy with just one thought, but the Sorcerer is undeterred.