What If Venom Wasn't In Spider Man 3?

Spider-Man 3 may still be the highest grossing Spider-Man film at the worldwide box office, but it left audiences with a bad taste in their mouths, ending Sam Raimi's acclaimed trilogy. Many complained of the film being too crowded with multiple storylines that just didn't quite fit together. Chief among those arcs was the misuse of Spider-Man's most popular antagonist. Venom. But what if the symbiote was removed from the film entirely? What if they focused on properly finishing the stories of the characters we had been following for 5 years at that point? What if we got a version of this movie that was on the same level as the first 2? Listen up webheads, because FanScription is swinging your way to save the day!
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[@josef1557]

We would've had Spider-Man 9 this summer.

[@aKrazyGuyUKno]

Random Guy Some day literally. Reports are leaking that Marvel & Sony have renegotiated and renewed their partnership. Tom Holland is contracted to six more movies after these three are done. If true, yes, there will be a ‘Spider-Man 9’.

[@V01Tx]

@@aKrazyGuyUKno well that's assuming he will only be in his own movie

[@lukejordan7510]

No one else like this it has 420 likes

[@someguyudontknow6038]

Wait 3 Spiderman movies 3 Amazing Spiderman movies and 2 MCU Spiderman movies sooooo 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

[@Kable_TV]

aKrazyGuyUKno technically he’s already been in 5 movies and his second film isn’t even in theatres yet

[@joshuaingobo1559]

Title: What If Venom Wasn't In Spider-Man 3? Everyone: There will be no Emo Peter memes.

[@KTF0]

Good point

[@hoodedmaniac3602]

Spiderman 4?

[@RJIS]

Hoodedmaniac 360 it would be with venom and the Amazing Spider-Man would still exist the same great way

[@richardtheallosaurus4036]

Good

[@julianx2rl]

Oh God, that would've been a tragedy.

[@themedineer2508]

**Gwen Dies** Gwen: *Reverse Uno Card* **MJ Dies**

[@D2_artes]

•-•

[@Thefourheads]

**MJ’s last words**: no u **Aunt May dies**

[@Cetz75]

Redbluedo lmaoo i hate u

[@kendallphillips7153]

Aunt May: no you *Mr.usaise dies*

[@Grim_Sister]

Gwen: “I summon myself! In Ghost Spider mood!”

[@notacid1218]

I love it how Spider-Man doesn’t need the Black Suit to show his anger. He’s always been strong and just decides to stop pulling his punches.

[@dylanogg347]

It has been demonstrated in the comics that Peter constantly holds back. During the time Doc Ock hijacked Pete's body, he punched Scorpion's jaw off without thinking about it.

[@haidynsworld3820]

In my opinion I think this definitely should have happened I think Venom shouldn't have been in Spider-Man 3 and the Hobgoblin should have been the one to take Center Stage because if that happened I'm pretty sure we would get Spider-Man 3 with the Hobgoblin and then we would get a spin-off film that focuses on Venom as the main antagonist we could also have Spider-Man make an appearance as well as Carnage add Jim Carrey could play Carnage in the film

[@Speedstreak]

Sees Peter Parker dancing very awkwardly. Peter Parker: We don't talk about this anymore.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

Exactly because I cringe or I just want to burn it at my eyes or from my own memory because it was such an embarrassing moment

[@jcrprod.co.6973]

CinemaWins Narrator: I do. I talk about it all the time.

[@franoj2489]

okay this is kick-ass. you should really continue this with your version of spiderman 4

[@tinkerermelon6599]

Seconded!

[@dastvan8002]

*Motion carried*

[@thunderlord3183]

Franek Kimono yes

[@firstnamelastname364]

you guys should check out some fan edits of Spider-Man 3. A lot of fans have carried out stuff similar to this video and added in deleted scenes, taken away bad ones, removing subplots, etc. Just go on fan edits on reddit and stuff and you can things like it

[@camm5981]

Please do

[@TheRandomGangsta]

I got chills when Harry Osborn recited Peter’s speech about his feelings for MJ with a dark, twisted and disturbing context. I did not expect that to come out. My eyes were wide open the first time I heard that. Well done!

[@vincenthawthorne9360]

I totally agree

[@sexistatheist6464]

I was wondering why Harry said that. He wasn't present when Peter spoke those words. Did he have a bug in the room, or was it an astronomically improbable coincidence?

[@99annanic]

@@sexistatheist6464 he could’ve been overhearing before walking in on them and assumed Peter was actually talking about Spider-Man before walking in to see Peter holding hands with MJ.

[@WubTheory]

SAME

[@miguelbrymn3426]

Yeah, I wasn't expecting that either. It made me shiver.

[@manorga5]

I was totally with you until the MJ death. I just feel like having an ending THAT dark doesn’t mesh well with the tone of the rest of the trilogy.

[@danhellwig7058]

I feel so too

[@DavidAllgaier_]

Martin Anorga yeah. I’m pretty sure not even Sam Raimi would’ve killed MJ like that.

[@theamaeve8175]

But it would have matched the tone of the Dark Knight which would have come out the following year so he woulda beat Nolan to the punch with the complete and utter tragedy in a superhero movie, to be called a genius for the rest of his days

[@spiderfooties]

@@theamaeve8175 Sam Raimi was not in it for the fame, he made the movies because he thought that people would like them, he should/would not have taken a complete 180 on mary janes character, it would have been off-putting.

[@cryptic_monster4223]

@@theamaeve8175 r u calling the dark night bad?

[@KanishQQuotes]

The scene where sandman gains his power is extremely strong No dialogues, just sad music

[@kerrychristensen7204]

@Wparker6804 ?

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@Wparker6804 what?

[@ravenlover7924]

@Wparker6804 Que?

[@alvarer1]

Next do this on FanScription. What if Tim Burton directed Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Aye

[@DrExploadsAlot]

Tim Burtens spiderman

[@ENJ4321]

They would've been far more superior movies, than what we got. Also, they would've actually came out with the movie the were supposed to have...with Harley Quinn avenging The Joker. No, stupid Mr Freeze puns...and no Bat credit card.

[@LordMoonshadowGaGa]

I think it would be “What If Tim Burton Made Batman Triumphant?”.

[@alvarer1]

TheNerdyBirdyShow that would be awesome

[@scawfan75]

What a lot of fans don't realize is that Raimi was setting up the Hobgoblin down the line. In the 3rd film, the scene where Harry takes the goblin serum there are 3 masks lined up on the table: 1st one is the classic green goblin mask from the 1st film, the 3rd is the mask that Harry wore in number 3 as the "New Goblin" but what many don't know is that the 2nd mask, the all chrome one was supposed to be the Hobgoblin mask!!! Raimi had a plan but Sony ruined it.

[@randomcommenter3202]

Avi Arad did

[@coleschubert9868]

I think Spiderman 3 still should had the black suit minus Venom of course. What I mean by that is have Venom as a cliffhanger setup or just keep him in the suit and have a slow Venom build up.

[@axelcota8901]

That would be a big boner killer though

[@jb57551]

@@axelcota8901 you mean boner as in "rAlpH bOhnEr" in Wandavision?

[@blackbird7781]

Same

[@akshaayesenna]

Yes they should've

[@Kuzamer]

Yeah. Maybe Spider-Man 3 could have been a two parter. The first part focuses on Peter descending into darkness with the Black Suit. With the second part being his redemption while having to deal with Venom.

[@TyMarshall007]

What If Venom Wasnt In Spider Man 3 then we would get Spider-man 4

[@lildominator2953]

@Jace West there are some story board for spiderman 4. It was vulture not lizard

[@Chicklo11]

@Jace West I thought it was Bruce Campbell as Mysterio? Or would it still be a case of too many villians

[@abovethelaw4417]

@Jace West Sam raimi wanted vulture but sony was forcing him to put lizard in there aswell so SPIDER-MAN 4 was cancelled

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@@abovethelaw4417 I'm still mad about that

[@TyMarshall007]

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 Sam Raimi did want Venom in spider-man 3

[@idongesitusen5764]

This change to the film makes sense. With Harry and MJ dead, it makes Peter gaining the venom symbiote and his actions while under its influence very relatable: with that kind of power we could do anything, so why shouldn't we when the "responsibility" to those we care about isn't there? If Gwen has the personality of the comic book Mary Jane, then the love interest thread is restored, giving Peter some renewed fight in the final climax against Venom. Add in the traditional wronged reporter backstory for Eddie Brock and a redeemed Sandman to help Peter and you've got a great Spider-Man 4 film.

[@gamepad3173]

and all of us would watch it on DVD or Bluray. though for me I'd also prefer VHS

[@MrBlueSkyof1607]

Either that or 5.

[@lukeskywalker2566]

That wouldve been the perfect way to handle Mary Jane and Harry's characters and the introduction of Gwen Stacey, beautifully done

[@AtomicOwl]

I agree

[@sugaryheaven4089]

I don't think MJ should have died

[@bigfootwithdecentinterneta2979]

Sugary Heaven yeah I don’t agree that she should’ve died, she probably would have said she doesn’t feel safe and runs away to some place and then Gwen Stacy is introduced

[@arachnidknight9162]

Luke Skywalker hell no

[@loganmatthews5956]

It was forced

[@dani.phantm]

write Spider-Man 4 NOW. pretty please?

[@reaperquartz]

daniel no

[@gamerman360]

Tricky moon yes

[@reaperquartz]

gamerman360 no

[@gamerman360]

Tricky moon yes!

[@Reuz1721]

Yes

[@zolibako4816]

I was shocked first by the decision to kill off MJ, but the ending made it work. Good job... again!

[@johnherb4243]

Seems ok. I don't think ending with Gwen Stacey was a good idea though. MJ just died, give him some time to mourn before meeting a new girl otherwise he could come across as shallow and like he didn't care that much. He could meet Gwen and start a budding romance in the next movie.

[@misspriss2482]

It's not like he goes out on a date with her or even flirts in this version. They just meet. That plants the seeds of them bonding over their grief in the next movie. He and Gwen could bump into each other and start talking. As their relationship deepens, Peter could struggle with guilt for having feelings for her and even push her away at some point, thus eliminating any claims of him being shallow or moving on too quickly. Besides, I always hate it when a franchise introduces characters as they become relevant instead of making them a part of that world before the plot demands it.

[@johnherb4243]

@@misspriss2482 fair point. That could definatly work.

[@readsomebooks666]

No, I think John’s right. When you go for a tragic end like this, you can’t have him meet the next girl at the end for a hope spot. It does take away from the message, *especially* after doing that death scene.

[@johnherb4243]

@@readsomebooks666 that was my general thought. It's not impossible to do that ending, but it's be hard to pull it off it a good way. It has to be clear there's no immediate romantic interest and their leaning on each other solely for comfort.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

I agree on the poor choice to immediately imply a new romance starts, idon't agree that they should not have met... let them meet and just grieve together. I think they too were classmates once upon a time or am I confusing something? But just platonic / functional for the mere grief. Have him use something Aunt May said earlier about loved ones we lost and have THAT symbolize that he is not well yet, far from it, but will get there, just don't do any cheesy romance BS at an open grave or two of them.

[@ilo3456]

I honestly like this a lot, I think that Peter loosing his friends and fiancee because he chose revenge is a fitting consequence to the actions he chose to take, that he found peace with Uncle Ben's killer is good and that he now has to move on from loosing his best friend and the woman he loved is a good dramatic punch to the story.

[@generic_soda]

Im glad you decided not to do anything with the introduction of Sandman. BECAUSE THE BIRTH OF SANDMAN WAS THE BEST SCENE IN THE WHOLE FILM!

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

And the body horror was so great

[@MazeDaGr8]

Everything in this video feel like what would've happened if Sam Rami actually got his way without Sony's BS

[@DavidAllgaier_]

Frosty 012 except Raimi probably wouldn’t have killed off MJ.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@@DavidAllgaier_ most likely I wonder what he would have done with MJ

[@soybasedjeremy3653]

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 I think in the future he would of killed her off. But Aunt May would of been killed off sooner.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@@soybasedjeremy3653 I can see it Peter is basically growing up so he won't exactly need her in his life that much Mary Jane that's a little bit different since he may eventually marry her but the question is what do you do with her after you can't exactly have her go back to acting or have her try being a model like she is in the comics forever

[@arachnidknight9162]

I don’t think he kill off MJ but he would kill off Aunt May like similiar to the insomniac scene.

[@cedbanani]

Your version of Spider Man 3 is awesome. The plot, the presentation, the dialogue. All of it is amazing. Thank you for this video!!

[@lightningbolt4419]

fuck you i dont care

[@lightningbolt4419]

@Verynn I dont live in a very high place

[@lightningbolt4419]

@Verynn you do now

[@HokageAlex]

For real They should hire him to at least double check the script and review the moive early then tell them what to fix

[@SamuelG2000]

@@HokageAlex *movie

[@stealz8588]

What if Venom wasn’t in Spider-Man 3... It would be a good film.

[@valkyrie4855]

I agree it would have been better they should have waited to use venom for like the 4th movie.

[@bullymagiurestudios5693]

Spiderman 1 2002 and Spiderman 2 2004 are the best films ever.

[@valkyrie4855]

@@bullymagiurestudios5693 yes they are

[@condorgaming4000]

The black suit stuff was some of the best parts of the film. Like black suit Spiderman vs sandman and the part where Peter fights Harry but is ruthless cuz of the black suit. I don't mind the black suit being introduced in Spiderman 3. But the venom reveal should've been a stinger. Venom shouldn't have been a main villian in a movie that already has sandman and goblin

[@valkyrie4855]

@@condorgaming4000 The black suit looked cool but i still prefer the comic book black suit with the big white spider symbol just like in comics. They still should have done venom in 4th movie and have him get the symbiote black suit at the end of the movie with better casting for eddie brock. The movie really sucked basically because of how they did venom and the story they rushed the movie instead of using venom they should have used the vulture not venom.

[@powderkegsuga5598]

I absolutely LOVE the callback to Peter's speech about his feelings for MJ from the first movie being thrown back at him by Harry.

[@jessicastrike5640]

Damn that was incredible!! Please do more of these! Or give us a Spider-Man 4 fan scription

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Or? Spider man 4 FS WOULD be "more of these" ;-p

[@WalterCulture]

Thank you! We have 6 other episodes! Check them out!

[@abovethelaw4417]

Yes

[@mariogirl8100]

I am from the future to tell you: Your wish was granted.

[@brandonprater4613]

I really liked the Hobgoblin twist... it was a nice touch!

[@Dlaoproductions]

Every Spider-Man film, in Sam Raimi’s trilogy, had Spider-Man doing a swing through New York. If this is how the film had gone, imagine during Spider-Man’s speech on revenge ends with him landing on a building in front of MJ’s poster being taken down. That’d be pretty sad.

[@ajtracks396]

This is soooo goooodddd, would have competed with Spider-Man 2 or even beat it (didn’t even know I had that many likes 😂thanks )

[@JhonJhoVel]

Pliz do fanscription for spiderman 4

[@legowhite2]

Jhon Affrianto I don’t think AJ Tracks can do that...

[@JhonJhoVel]

🤣🤣

[@ajtracks396]

Legowhite 😂😂😂, would be good to get the opportunity tho ngl 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ROCK_UNIVERSE97]

Sounds shit

[@chrispy3369]

I remember watching spider-man 3 with my parents. I finally got the "spider sense is tingling" joke and loudly said Oooooh. My parents looked at me for a few seconds

[@averymerrick]

Executive Meddling: The reason Venom and Gwen are in it (though Eddie Brock was always planned, just not his alter-ego). -Venom and the entire symbiote arc weren't supposed to be in the movie at all. Instead Sandman was supposed to team up with Vulture, who would be his cellmate that vowed revenge against Spidey after being busted by him. Vulture was supposed to be played by Ben Kingsley. Also, rather than being forced to break up by Harry, Peter and MJ would break up naturally after several bad decisions by both. However, studio executives forced Sam Raimi to bring in Venom, a character he was both unfamiliar with and uninterested in, because they thought the character would get more money from audiences. This interference lasted throughout the entire production, leading to several deleted scenes like Harry being talked out of his revenge by Mary Jane rather than his butler, Gwen being kidnapped since Eddie is convinced Peter loves her rather than MJ being kidnapped yet again, Sandman's daughter showing up and talking him out of the final fight, Eddie actually seeing Marko's situation with his daughter rather than knowing it out of nowhere, and others. This meddling is also the reason why a Spider-Man 4 was never made. Raimi and executives just could not agree on a script that would satisfy both parties, so Raimi left. -Kirsten Dunst only agreed to reprise her role in the 3rd film on the condition that Mary Jane would not end up as the Damsel in Distress. Executives agreed. MJ was originally going to have a more proactive role in the film's climax (Gwen was going to be the damsel while MJ would be the one to talk Harry into helping and forgiving Peter; her lines from this scene remained in the trailer). When the plans changed, they made sure MJ was an Action Survivor during this particular distress as means of making it up to an upset Dunst. Throwing a cinderblock at Venom was thrown in, they let her jump and swing on hanging webs herself before needing to ultimately get saved, and any of MJ's screams during the scene (Peter's too, for that matter) were recycled audio. On the audio commentary, Raimi tells a rough story of coming to the process that in order to finish the movie on time, they had to put MJ in danger, which not only angered himself for reneging on his promise to Dunst before production started that he wouldn't, but that summoning the courage to tell her was one of the hardest things he's ever done in his long time in the business.

[@cirogarcia9951]

Honestly I think this was all planned so they could make the MCU

[@iaminevitable3017]

What if Thanos had snapped and won in Avengers: Endgame?

[@leaftyheat]

Every life on earth would die

[@cringechannel2494]

DRP leaftyheat THEN THE NEXT FILM AVENGERS CITZIEN HEROES

[@RomaroBrandon]

I Am Inevitable that's dumb. It should be what if his 2014 Thanos plan was 2018 Thanos plan and when he snapped in Infinity War (because it doesn't work in Endgame) he created two universes.

[@freddyfatbear03]

Don't spol!

[@mitchsorenstein2242]

The entire universe would be destroyed and thanos would rule the new one. He wouldnt let anyone become powerful enough to stop him. Pretty damn boring.

[@billymccrary2246]

More ideas What If Parallax Wasn't In Green Lantern? What If Bizarro Was In Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice? What If Steppenwolf Wasn't In Justice League? What If The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Was Better? What If Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie Was Better? What If Nancy Thompson Didn Die in A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors?

[@Jay-Da-Giant]

How about What If Jar Jar Binks was not in the Star Wars prequels or what if Anakin had a dad in the Prequels?

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

What If Agatha was the Scarlet Witch? What if the webhead sided with the star spangled man instead of the armored man? What if the other half was dusted? What if Mileena won the Outworld Civil War? What if Ventus and Vanitas never separated?? What if Master Xehanort won? What if Sora was the 13th Seeker/Vessel of Darkness? What if Goku never crash-landed on Planet Earth? What if Rita Repulsa was the Green Ranger? What if Carol Danvers never had Kree DNA inside her? What if Onaga the Dragon King never died?

[@autobotproductions1244]

This... was... AMAZING! Honestly, if they did this, it would’ve elevated the Raimi trilogy in terms of superhero movies

[@jaycerrito3142]

We would still getting the crying Peter memes if this version of Spider-Man 3 came out

[@quazirej1998]

Let's not forget that the addition of Venom to Spider-Man 3 was not Sam Raimi‘s idea. Without Venom, you still would have had the same film. It simply would have felt smaller and more refined because of not having to shoehorning in elements that were ultimately unnecessary. The idea of Harry Osborn becoming Hobgoblin rather than another Green Goblin is a nice touch, though. You don't really need to change much else.

[@thedlsking1628]

Harry as hobgoblin could be good idea but it's kinda boring and doesn't work for me but i agree with you that movie would be same without venom

[@duckduckgamer8425]

18:50 Baby face turn?! Since when were you a wrestling fan and please make a fantasy booking for wrestling

[@RadinV1]

Ok calm down buddy.

[@kushagraursal5160]

The spidey dance has kinda grown on me.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

Then you are not one of us

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 We don't have to be. We are what we choose to be.

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@@acrsclspdrcls1365 that is very true I still hate the dance scene it's very cringy that is not the whole purpose of the Venom suit in the comics or the cartoons specifically Spider-Man the Animated Series and Spectacular Spider-Man

[@thelittlepasty8360]

It’s supposed to be a contrast to the rain drops scene form Spider-Man 2. It totally works for me

[@dcmarvelcomicfans9458]

@@thelittlepasty8360 ok

[@thanos2215]

You'll get your rent when you fix this DAMN GAUNTLET!!!

[@mariajosegomezduarte6520]

This is awesome. I would like some fight narration between Spidey and Harry before MJ’s death. But your version is the definition of perfection

[@mcolby1388]

This makes me sad, I wish Sony would of just gave Raimi the creative freedom to make the movie he actually wanted to make instead of forcing him to add in a character he hasn't fully familiarized himself with and on top of the movie already having 2 villains. If venom is going to be the villain he needs to be the only villain in that story, unless you have carnage but even then that could be a sequel with Spider-man and venom teaming up

[@faclonx6275]

Yeah I wish I could go back in time and tell Sony not put venom the character familiar with

[@GroundhogDayisAWESOME]

That's some GOOD Peter Parker/Harry conflict re-narration!

[@ekmalsukarno2302]

Nostalgia Critic, you better review Road Chip this year. There is no escape.

[@ENJ4321]

This isn't Nostalgia Critic, it's Walter.

[@ENJ4321]

@@diggerfan9319 The Chipmunks movies, should've stopped at the first one...someone needs to end it.

[@falkofscrum]

Someone already made a video about Burtons vision for Batman Forever. The villain was gonna be Scarecrow

[@ENJ4321]

@@falkofscrum Yeah, but with studio mandate, they would've had most likely have him use Two Face and Riddler anyway. The whole reason they went with Schumaker, and took Burton off was due to the studio having a completely different vision. Had the studio kept Burton, even with their inteferring mandates...Burton would've made way better movies. I liked having Riddler and Two Face in Forever, Poison Ivy and Bane in Batman and Robin, but the execution of it was garbage.

[@randalgraves6979]

But he’ll have to talk about sci-fi guy 😬😬😬 cameo.

[@ziljin]

I read Sony is planning to do live action spiderverse movie with Tobey, Andrew and Tom

[@kingoftruth10yearsago28]

From the future it's called nwh

[@carlosocano2826]

This was beautiful I want it haha The moment Hob Goblin takes mj to the bridge I said "oh no"

[@motor4X4kombat]

0:00 we don't really talk about this

[@jonathanwaters206]

Talk about what?🙂

[@xrp.porsche]

@White Privilage I think he got the memo 😉

[@spookerredmenace3950]

who ever did the voice of Harry on here, damn! so awesome! yous are not only great actors but very good Voice actors

[@danieldishon688]

I'm on board with all these changes except the death of MJ. MJ isnt Gwen Stacy, Gwen cant replace MJ, and I dont want Gwen introduced at MJs funeral. Also without the Venem suit stuff a lot of the plot designed to complement that theme doesn't really belong in the movie anymore like Peter being egotistical loving fame too much. If your focusing on Harry so much more, I dont think his death would be a hollow feeling as it was originally. I think without the ego checking subplot and your changes you get a new film that has a natural theme of love and hate being contrasted against each other. Both Peter and Harry and Sandman and MJ for that matter deal with both motivations of love and of resentment, hate or revenge. The cities changes attitude toward Spiderman after years of disrespecting him and JJ Jameson hanging onto that hate would play into that as well.

[@MrBlueSkyof1607]

Gwen isn't her replacement by far, Black Cat is.

[@sergiolezcano9190]

@@MrBlueSkyof1607 harry osborn/hobgoblin kill mary jane watson thi spiderman 3 version is better tasm2 harry osborn/green goblin kill gwen stacy in comics norman osborn/green goblin kill gwen stacy

[@darienn2755]

Sam rami was forced to do venom in spider man 3

[@suarezguy]

He wasn't against doing three villains, though, he wanted the villains to have been Sandman, Vulture and Harry.

[@billymccrary2246]

Harry Osborn was the Hobgoblin in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. Also, here are my ideas that i hope you like: What If Michael Bay Never Directed the Transformers film series? What If Doomsday Wasn't In Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice? What If General Zod Wasn't In Man of Steel? What If Electro and the Rhino Wasn't Both In The Amazing Spider-Man 2? What If Zack Snyder Didn't Directing Man of Steel?

[@markustheone9075]

Billy McCrary no more explosions

[@dastvan8002]

Maybe a movie where Megatron actually becomes a good guy Ala Magneto in X-men 2

[@billymccrary2246]

@@dastvan8002 Oh... Okay than...

[@suarezguy]

The Rhino barely was in The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

[@The_IRE_Emeatzer]

Electro should have been the only villain in TASM 2!!!

[@gameshalo3907]

I liked everything except of the part where Harry goes absolutely nuts kills MJ and dies. Kinda feels rushed. Also, the fact that Petar doesn't even think about Harry and simply doesn't show any emotion after his best friend died (even if he went kinda crazy) doesn't feel right. I think it's really sad we didn't get Spider Man 4! I adored the Sam Raimi (or Tobey Maguire) movies!!!!

[@hansruhlmann454]

I would love to see a Spiderman 4, just to see how more badshit insane Sam Raimi could do the franchise than it's already is. Maybe could Harry be resurected by an unknown villain, Maybe the french Bruce Campbell cameo from the third one as i heard that he was the true identity of Dr. Mysterio, sorry if i spell it wrong, if it wasn't because Spiderman 3 was so hated that Sam Raimi sadly never got a chance to direct a fourth movie. Then the new unknown villain brainwashed Harry with false memories and turned him into Hobgoblin.

[@brickbro0561]

@@hansruhlmann454 Actually Mysterio was going to be in Spider-Man 4, though he wouldn’t have been the main villain. That honor would go to Vulture.

[@hansruhlmann454]

@@brickbro0561 Really?

[@brickbro0561]

@@hansruhlmann454 Yeah. There were already storyboards made by the time the movie was canceled

[@reoray2000]

I love this video omg, the way how it ended was just sad tbh but it was needed, loved how qwen at the end of it all gave Peter a glimpse of hope with just a glance, sparking a potential relationship between them, I love this fanscription series❤

[@travisc7722]

Just saw the part 4 video and had to watch this first. I love this. The idea of Harry being the Hobgoblin so the design is different. And I love the idea of making this one actually focus on the friendship between Harry and Peter. Also the idea of Harry, and M.Js death being caused because Peter choose to go after Sandman is brilliant. Could have been a really awesome film!

[@Zorglorfian]

I’m thinking the hobgoblin should look like the marvel legends build a figure. If you want something more like a classic appearance mixed with armor.

[@JayboCorp.2014]

*MAN* I have a vague recollection of that figure I saw it in the store when that was still kind of relevant. Maybe it was around 2007?

[@soybasedjeremy3653]

@@JayboCorp.2014 It was

[@Stammer6]

Man, who needs movies? This narration is like an audio book! Well done!

[@mysteryman6955]

This is really awesome, you should do your own Spider-Man 4 script

[@ThePandaaa]

Damn I think we need a petition to have spiderman 3 be remade into this version

[@Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE]

This Version of Spider-Man 3 would've been a Masterpiece. It made so much more sense to take Venom out and save him for later and have Harry and Flint to get screen time for their background stories. Peter losing both MJ, Harry, and the people he couldn't save in one night is the most impactful pain Peter will never get over. In the 4th installment of the movie that's when Peter gets the Black Suit and uses it to prevent another tragic event that happened in Spider-Man 3. Doing so, Peter will slowly become addicted to the Suit that feeds off Peter's immense pain and the Nightmares he's been having of his failure of saving MJ and those who died by the Hobgoblin, Consuming Peter with Dark thoughts and changing his attitude with agressive behaviors. That's when we get Venom in the picture.

[@spencertaylor7660]

Harry was The Hobgoblin in the Ultimate Comics.

[@coleschubert9868]

Your right. I think that personsa fits perfectly in the rami verse.

[@SamuelG2000]

He's also Hobgoblin in the new cartoon on Disney XD.

[@samuelthompsan5961]

I think Harry being Hobgoblin is better anyway because just being Green Goblin II is kinda bland in my opinion.

[@johnnyboy-ws3we]

Yes he was i myself have read them

[@alexkougianos2311]

DUUUUDE..the end gave me soooo many chills. Nice one!

[@charlierashi100]

You should fix both TASM1 and TASM2 (TASM stands for the amazing spiderman).

[@ashkoby]

Charlierashi the amazing spider man can only be fixed one way.................. Don't make it at all

[@charlierashi100]

Top 20 Or Less, true... true.

[@awesomeproductions7755]

They really should’ve just ended the film on a cliffhanger with Brock becoming Venom to set up a Spider-Man 4. Anyone else agree?

[@guythewaffle4861]

No because Spider-Man four would have been just as convoluted because of mysterio being the villain and then we wouldn’t know about Brock really being venom or just insanity

[@feralchangeling97]

I think it would have been good for Venom to not show up in Spider-Man 4 but in a spin-off with Carnage.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

You mean something like Predator? Brock in some godforsaken jungle stumbling over the meteorite venom came in down to Earth and being "taken over"? Hmmm... of course there are many options... they also could have just set that up for part 4 with Brock being just a photographic rival of Peters and ending up doing some drug cartel or rebel uprising story in "whatever jungle" soemwhere in the asscrack of Earth... and use the post credit scene for a new owner taking over Oscorp, making it the guy that would in the comics become the Vulture... showing him at the test facility where the original Green Goblin armor and flying batarang were developed ;-) Then have that be the next big baddy, maybe combine it with the Lizard when that guy is tasked to check the GG serum for some way to remove whatever turns the ones taking it insane / psychopaths and having an accident turning him scaly... and only bring tiny hints of Brock's jungle odyssey... getting caught by rebels or drug lords... being tortured or imprisoned for some time, the Planet having a story about star photographer vanished in crisis region... the baddies deposing a dying or badly beat up Brock in the jungles and then the symbiote scene... Post credit could then be Eddie with visible scars, but otherwise healthy looking, going onto a plane in South America or coming out of a plane at JFK... with a hint of venom showing in a cuff or out of his shirtneck.. blink and you miss it, so the stopmotion crowd has something to find too ;-)

[@radrno7]

Awesome Productions I think that could’ve been even worse, because Raimi didn’t want to do Venom and he didn’t know how to use him, so either way it would’ve been a problem. I think what Spider-Man 3 really needed was a story focused only on Harry, Peter and MJ. And if they wanted to add a second villain, they should’ve used someone like Connors since he had already been pretty well set up for it, just put Sandman’s arc on him and it would’ve worked. If they wanted to put Venom in a movie, it would have to be like an Agent Venom spin-off, with Flash Thompson coming back as a soldier and ending up on a wheelchair. Have the ship John Jameson from Spider-Man 2 came back with carry a symbiote, have NASA study it and the military end up using it to test on soldiers, which Flash volunteers for, and they end up using to hunt other villains.

[@conflictbrooks]

they should have had an after credits scene. it would have gone like this: JJ jameson: brock, I told you not to be late. after parker quit, we're running low on decent photographers eddie brock: story sir, it's just.. we've had a busy weekend JJ: what do you mean we? eddie: oh, sorry. I- (pause) misspoke. (smiles) (screen goes black, we here a hissing sound)

[@garrtoons4303]

Actually, Eddie was gonna have a short role.

[@garrtoons4303]

@bigevilworldwide1 It would've been cool if we DID get to see 4... but, of course.... movie making issues...

[@MiniMackeroni]

@bigevilworldwide1 I thought 4 was going to be Mysterio, who was going to be Bruce Campbell. Or was he only a minor role?

[@voilvelev6775]

@bigevilworldwide1 The lizard might've been in 4, cause he was already set up as a character.

[@j0shcamach0]

Back to formula!!!!! 😆😂😆😆😂 Lmao cracked me up

[@edgexgamer302]

If they had done this it would have made Peters internal conflict with what the symbiote does to him even more compelling. The fact Peter has lost person after person would’ve pushed him to give in to a chance at more power, so he wouldn’t have to lose anyone else.

[@ChocolateVanilluxeTV]

17:48 "HaRrY nO!!!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yep, this is Tobey's Spider-Man lol

[@velociraptor4you3291]

Even though I'm one of those out there who DOES defend "Spider-Man 3" just the way it is (and I will continue to do so to my grave), I actually found this VERY intriguing! Kudos to you, Walter! I even found Harry becoming the Hobgoblin and Gwen Stacy's death being applied to MJ (despite how *tragic* it is) nice touches.

[@velociraptor4you3291]

@Jake The Protogen You didn’t like that one?

[@velociraptor4you3291]

@Jake The Protogen I see.

[@velociraptor4you3291]

@Jake The Protogen Oh, no need to apologize (😉). We all have our different likes and dislikes after all.

[@velociraptor4you3291]

@Jake The Protogen I hear ya (😉).

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

@Chaloongis You think Insomniac Games will likely do the sadistic mile in killing off MJ in the Spidey PS4 sequel?? Because it almost feels like PS-verse is giving us already what Spider Man 3 should have been from day one even if not all of us will recieve it well

[@alexanderkeener8589]

would have been the best of the trilogy just saying

[@jakehoddinott5768]

This is so AWESOME!!!!!! Can you make more Spider man stories as if you were making the Spider Man

[@georgemac8124]

This could be a masterpiece. But "SONY"!

[@Firebreather719]

We got spiderverse, spiderman ps4, and Sony and Disney was able to collab. With that we got spiderman in the MCU, what happened is in the past. Dont linger on the past, because the future is much brighter.

[@georgemac8124]

@@Firebreather719 I guess you right. Besides I hear Spider-Man far from home I going to be one of the best Spider-Man movies.

[@georgemac8124]

@@fatmanjstyle5306 ok man it's your opinion I can't say nothing to change your opinion.

[@Firebreather719]

@@fatmanjstyle5306 I mean I actually liked venom, I thought it was ok.

[@Kortlandt]

That actually is a good story. Focus more on the revenge aspect and end in tragedy. Really does inspire me to make a story myself. 👍🏾

[@Nicholas-xv4tj]

The only thing I would really change about this re-imagining is to make Harry's death ambiguous. I personally love the way he died in 3, but always felt it was cheapened by the fact the movie wasn't focused on him. So in a future potential sequel within this hypothetical version of the Raimi series Harry would return and get the death he got in the original 3.

[@mattgrau5581]

Sandman was *incredible* Venom was *fine* And The New Goblin was *trash* (I still like Harry Osborn) And they should make the Spider-Man 4 we could get to see Mysterio played by Bruce Campbell.

[@RThyrring]

This idea is actually MUCH better than what we got

[@GoddessOfWhim2003]

killing MJ would have pissed me off. Peter and MJ need their happy ending

[@thedceuman9285]

Great video. And Harry actually became the Hobgoblin in the Ultimate comics.

[@BlackCover95]

18:38 I had this in mind since you mentioned the hostage scenario, but I didn’t seriously think you’d be ballsy enough to use it. Besides, replacing MJ with Gwen Stacy would not have been well-received at all.

[@greenevvo5710]

Woah, this is more than *"amazing!"* Here is a video idea: *What if Spiderman is in the Venom movie?*

[@jasongradyphstiger6179]

@Alejandro Feo Cecin Tom holland.

[@edgarcastillo8369]

Or Andrew garfield

[@rexy7059]

Or toby

[@monsoon1303]

What if Venom was R rated?

[@adamgrunther1367]

Wow. Jim does an amazing James Franco!

[@mariasottiriou1393]

14:27 well he was Hobgoblin in the ultimate comics

[@xdecatron2985]

This was very good. One thing I would change is in the portrayal of Harry's madness. Rather than breaking into cliche hysterical laughter repeatedly, have him hear his father laughing at his repeated humiliations. Then, when he finally snaps, he joins his father in laughing. This would show that his mental stress comes more from the self esteem issues he had that began with his father's treatment of him, and his snapping point is accepting that he'll never be good enough, so he might as well bring everyone else down to his level.

[@sidecharacter3193]

If you ask me keep the black suit and don’t introduce venom until Spider-Man 4 or5

[@m.a.ramazani8253]

I loved your alternative script and I believe with some little adjustments( very little) this would have been a" The Dark Knight" for Spider-Man and for all Marvel movies.

[@baliyae]

This was awesome! Even better than the actual Spider-Man 3. Keep up the great work! 😎👍🏻

[@CadeDubsOG]

Well, that certainly feels like a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy but if the movie really ended like that, people on the Internet nowadays would keep on doing endless analyses and complaining about it saying that MJ didn't need to die - like Jack Dawson in Titanic.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Jack dawson was a production mistake... make the wood thing 20% smaller and not even Mythbusters could have saved both of them.

[@julianx2rl]

This is good, but I have a problem with it... the movie is called Spider-Man. There's no Spider-Man in this until the very end. The previous two movies had 3 major fight scenes, plus some extras, this doesn't have that. Not only that, but if Harry knows Peter is innocent, would he side with Sandman because... he's jealous? That's not the motivation the previous two movies built up. Instead, I feel he would side with Sandman, to show Peter what it feels to have a friend side with the killer of your father figure, just like Peter was Spider-Man's "Friend". I mean, Harry knows Peter is the spider, but he didn't in the second film, so the analogy still applies.

[@radrno7]

julianx2rl Yeah, like he put Harry already knowing about his father in the beginning, that takes away all the stakes from the character buildup since the first movie. I think the butler should never tell Harry, I think he should end up discovering by some doctor or something that proves that Norman was impaled by the glider. Else, just have Harry do something terrible like hurt MJ really bad that ends up making him feel guilty and realize that revenge will only hurt innocent people he loves the most, which makes him forget about taking revenge against Peter. It would be cool if he had Peter hurt really bad and stuck, so his glider comes full auto mode with its blades out and he can’t turn it off, so he just puts himself in front of it to hold it back, which gets him impaled on a pillar while Peter gets really angry and manages to get himself free, and Harry just looks at Peter saying “sorry, buddy”, before the glider explodes and the Osborn building goes down.

[@ace_pro_gamer1]

I would have paid for this this would have led to Spider-Man 4

[@DavidAllgaier_]

This was pretty good! It seemed pretty accurate to what Raimi wanted to do. The only differences are: 1. Raimi probably wouldn’t have killed off MJ like that. 2. He wanted the Vulture to fight Spider-Man in Venom’s place during the climactic battle. He would’ve been some random criminal who Spider-Man arrested one time, then would’ve been broken out by Sandman to help him kidnap MJ and lure in Spider-Man.

[@ellatinonation]

This would’ve been the most dramatic, emotional and most WTF movie ever 😭😭

[@MrTwoSaintYT]

Wow... Walter you have reignited my inner childhood of the Raimi trilogy. You've basically made the movie I've wanted to see for so long. Sometimes directors can make a really good story but you and the background people behind Channel Awesome really reconstructed Spider-Man 3 perfectly. That most likely would've topped Spider-Man 2 or perhaps keep the Raimi Saga going. What a great video guys, and especially to you Walter. We needed this. Keep up the awesome work. 😂 See what I did there? Lol, yeah I know bad joke.

[@billygates7617]

Oddly enough, a customer and I were discussing more focus on Sandman and Harry. Thank you for this, man

[@yvngn1ng3n14]

Okay. Yeah this was amazing. Like see it more than once in theaters amazing. Now I need your Spider-Man 4 ASAP.

[@rob-ron4231]

Can you do spider man 4 But now with venom You do a really good job Plz do spider man 4 I’m shor you can do it good People if you agree with my idea for hem to make this like this Plz help me out hear

[@thelittlepasty8360]

Harry taking the pills reminds me of when Harry ODs in the comics

[@92synergy]

Walter, there are a lot of good ideas here. My favorite part you addressed would be Harry's arc and it actually felt like it captured his character from the comics/cartoons. Well done, sir.

[@aspectofficial3460]

I actually prefer this version over Raimi’s. Thanks dude

[@joelmardling8671]

Makes me think of Spider-Man ‘94 when goblin kills Mary Jane... :(

[@tjango802]

Very solid ending, glad you all took the time not only write out a 'better' ending but also had voices for your rewrite. I really loved this video.

[@Vloog95]

it does feel much more smoother and linear than the original

[@armandosanchez8440]

I seriously cannot stress this enough, but this would’ve been a great movie and I would’ve have loved it even more than the original

[@jacobgrieb5662]

This was awesome please do more!

[@IAmMightyMike]

This was pretty well written. Thanks for this