What If Spider-Man 4 Happened?

It's one of the great unanswered questions in superhero movie history. What if Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 4 wasn’t canceled? There are many details out there about what Tobey Maguire and company had in store for us in the planned 2011 installment. So we’ve combined some of those ideas with our own to craft an original story for the fabled sequel. Hop on board, web-heads, and follow FanScription to an alternate universe where Spider-Man 4…actually happened.
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[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Your choice of David Tennant as The Jackal is brilliant! I never would have thought of that!!!😃😃😃😃 also your artist really outdid themselves with The Vulture design!!!

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@Kaijusaurus never heard of that. What’s it about?

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@Kaijusaurus that was a thing too?! Please comment some more what if’s. 😂

[@joecrow5484]

i hope you do a what if randy didnt die in scream 2, what if bryan singer directed xmen the last stand or what if timothy dalton was in goldeneye. goldeneye was originally written for him btw.

[@bumblebee6090]

What if Spider-Man 5

[@thefilmwatcher1216]

The writing for J Jonah Jameson here is 100% on point. Also, casting Nicholas Hammond as old Spidey is just brilliant. I actually kind of wish he appeared in No Way Home, at least in a cameo appearance.

[@AverageJoe87]

Or at least stock footage from his series to show its a different universe.

[@Truenofan86]

Imagine a scene with the portal opening and seeing old Hammond who says "Im to old for this" with him walking out with the old costume in the opened drawer as a cameo

[@thefilmwatcher1216]

@@Truenofan86 That would be amazing.

[@TheDragonaf1]

Can I ask why him? I can't see anything on his imbd connecting him to Spiderman. Was he the voice of the early 2000's cartoon version? The video said it was a TV version.

[@thefilmwatcher1216]

@@TheDragonaf1 Yeah, Nicholas Hammond played Peter Parker in the 1970s Spider-Man TV show. I'm sure there are pictures online somewhere.

[@gmansgnarlyscienceshow2820]

4:58 Would’ve loved to see Bruce Campbell’s Mysterio. The Spider-Man 2 line “it helps maintain the illusion” was perfect.

[@Lamontmatt]

If they'd do a film that took off of Gotham when Bruce first becomes batman considering they went s-5 No more??? Wtf Then we're lost in last yrs bad batman movie 😢😢😢 And people claim bail is a great batman 😢😢😢 George cloney was better Val Kilmer was better 😅 Chris o d. Good Robin Yet BATGIRL IS supposed to be Gordon's daughter 😮 Look up 70s batman

[@Lamontmatt]

I would walk out if this happens 😢😢

[@EnsignRedSquad]

Raimi’s Spiderman 4 & Webb’s Amazing Spider 3 both need to happen now.

[@I_dont_like_anime]

No

[@JohnSmithsu2006]

Would be nice if done right.

[@luigi7781]

Yeeeees!!!

[@JohnSmithsu2006]

@@luigi7781 Mama Luigi.

[@jase276]

Way too late for a Spider-man 4, but an ASM 3 would be appreciated to wrap up that trilogy

[@memeking2588]

The vulture capturing the first victim is absolutely horrifying💀really captures the raimi vibe

[@p4nt3r74]

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[@marchellinorizky5337]

kinda remind me of that doc ock hospital scene

[@Inebriated_Goat]

Raimi vibe? 😂😂 Raimis vibe is cheesy campy corny comic book shit.

[@telespectadorpensante.7156]

@@Inebriated_Goat Shut your goofy ahh up kid, go watch the first Evil Dead.

[@young.br0die384]

@@Inebriated_Goat don’t you think that’s spot on for a comic book based movie ???

[@MuhammadHammadAshraf]

This was a neat story. I love how the vulture stole Peter's youth just like in the 1994 animated series.

[@Vanghool87]

Exactly. But hey they used a scene from the animated series in Spider-Man 3

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[@dewforpolitics]

This definitely deserves a fifth and sixth movie. Vulture was well portrayed by Cillian Murphy. I can still hear Robin Williams in his VA 😍. It’ll be interesting to see how Tobeys Spider-Man handle the Lizard.

[@joehumpston7937]

Dylan Baker’s lizard would’ve been awesome! Also, given what Sam Raimi was able to do with SandMan, I wonder what he could have made out of Herman Schultz, aka the Shocker

[@sebastianemond5313]

Maybe if they do a Spiderman 5, continuing the Neo-Genics Arc, we might see the development of both, or it could just be between Lizard and The Jackal. Maybe we'd get a beginnings of Spider-Gwen, since in this universe, Gwen is alive, knows Peter is Spiderman, and works with Curt Connors.

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[@666Vampirefromhell]

OK. Was, at first, disappointed that Warren died off. But that end credit scene idea was genius. We need a sequel here. A follow up to this. You guys are writing masterminds.

[@feathero3]

Im not familiar with Warren's character from the comics. Hoe could they survive and what would that be a setup to?

[@rdp16rulez]

@@feathero3 Miles Warren is directly connected to the Clone Saga. Specifically, he becomes a villain known as The Jackal. This ending implies that the Vulture either killed a clone or that a clone of Miles was alive. Either way, compelling stuff.

[@feathero3]

@@rdp16rulez Ah cool! I like that twist of it being a possible clone. Surprised I never heard of The Jackal before; I'm going to have to look them up.

[@MKtvisHIM]

I hope there's a 5th one I want to see jackal that would be cool to see 👀🙏😊🙂

[@jasongradyphstiger6179]

Yeah I will look to see their take on the clone saga This time instead of Gwen Stacy brought back to life It's mary jane who is back from the dead But this time she has peter's abilities and powers thanks to Miles found a blood sample a peter's DNA that has his spider powers.

[@moviemonster1652]

I really liked this fanscription. I also have a few requests 1. What if Tim Burton directed Batman and Robin. 2. What if Bryan Singer directed X-Men: The Last Stand. 3. What if Deadpool wasn’t in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. 4. What Christopher Reeve’s Superman and Michael Keaton’s Batman were in Batman v Superman. 5. What if Brainiac was in Superman III. 6. What if X-Men Origins: Magneto happened.

[@kendi5391]

The last one would prolly have a lot of scenes from X men first class.

[@TP_9033]

Oh man! Those first two!

[@tylerd.1]

What if Edward Norton continued to play his role as Hulk? (Spoilers: It’d be way better!)

[@kendi5391]

@@tylerd.1 nah,Mark Ruffalo is better. Sure Hulk now isn't good, but he brings a lot of great energy into the character.

[@Gavin53zane]

How about "what if Tim burton directed spiderman", along with "spiderman returns", "spiderman forever", "spiderman and dark spider", and more.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Sam Raimi hated the script for SM4 and he was basically being held gunpoint by Sony during Spider Man 3, so Lesson of the story is Sony screws things up

[@alexmapp5444]

Sam could've just asked them to rewrite the script.

[@kujikawathemeekmage3640]

@@alexmapp5444 you clearly don’t know how Sony works

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@alexmapp5444 yeah. Sony is not the most reasonable partnership in the studio world. But at least they’re not Disney, those guys are absolute scumbags

[@nickkurtz512]

And Avi Arad

[@theserpent8667]

They've handed Spider-Man as if they were children. I have spoken.

[@Tony12097]

If only we could've actually gotten a Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire...

[@ANDCFC95]

We still can

[@Rhearipleyaussie23]

Who says we won’t?

[@vhamer123]

We still can. With all the hype and money made from no way home, we just might see Spider-Man 4 as well as TASM 3 and 4

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[@shadowacadamy]

I did not expect David Tennant to show up in this What If, seeing his Tenth Doctor look with a moustache kills me in a good way lol

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

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[@AwesomeSaucePictures]

He looks like he's wearing disguise glasses

[@ashtonchane6126]

Oh, man this could lead to one thing. Clone Saga.

[@taylormansonshadicstorm9008]

@@ashtonchane6126”This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot!”

[@trevinodude]

The whole death of MJ and Harry was a hard pill to swallow at first… but this story was amazing. I love how Peter struggles in this story and how he manages to overcome thanks to the few friends he has left. I would love to hear your ideas on how you would continue Spider-Man’s journey in this universe… what’s up with Warren? What’s Jameson going to do now that he no longer has the Bugle? Where does Peter go from here? What happens when Black Cat appears again… and how does Gwen knowing Peter’s secret change things between them? I’m seriously invented in this SM universe now and I’m seriously amazed by how you managed to take some of the more out there plots from Spider-Man TAS and made them work here. I’m simply amazed by this story.

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[@dynaman7329]

Fingers crossed that Sam Raimi sees this video and gives his thoughts on it.

[@jameszeoli4552]

I loved how you kept Raimis horror undertone that was used throughout the whole series

[@Novac2077]

Swan Lake being played over Toomes rapidly aging in the restaurant bathroom is just amazing! It’s both haunting and elegant at the same time. Almost like a horror movie.

[@feathero3]

He gave a lot of good horror movie vibes. Especially with his de-aging and attack on the scientist happening during a lightning storm, and the "grunts of pain and pleasure" as he drained his life away.

[@rdp16rulez]

That kind of demented horror imagery is inspired directly by Sam Raimi's horror movie background and that classic Doc Ock operating table scene from Spider-Man 2.

[@MovieFan1912]

And having the late Max von “Now is the season of evil” Sydow as Toomes seems very appropriate. Edit: Hey, someone got the reference!

[@MrBlueSkyof1607]

I love it. Swan Lake was even used in a few old horror movies, including Lugosi’s Dracula.

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[@locodesert2]

Honestly they could hire you as an official spider-man writer. You do a spectacular job writing these stories and I can't wait for your next fanscription.

[@thesenate3068]

We need a Spider-Man 5 now, after seeing this. Hope just as much passion and dedication goes into it as did this video, as well as the Raimi trilogy.

[@Jordan-jo8wc]

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[@The_MEMEphis]

@@Jordan-jo8wc no 5 as in he already did a video on 4 and it leads to having a 5th

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[@fightingfalcon777]

I really loved what you did with this version of Spider-Man 4. With both the post-credits scene and the fact that Venom is still an option in your version of the Raimiverse, I would love to see what you would do with Spider-Man 5

[@sebastianemond5313]

Once again, Walter, amazing work with the potential the Raimi movies had, while incorporating elements from Spider-Man the animated series!

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[@HST2017]

Absolutely loved this, and would gladly watch a Spider Man 5 sequel for this.

[@PaulW_ftPAULK]

Hello from the future, see you tomorrow.

[@Partyboy22]

Future Fanscription ideas: 1) What if John Connor didn't die in "Terminator: Dark Fate"? 2) What if James Bond saved Vesper Lynd in "Casino Royale"? 3) What if the original "X-Men" (2000) was reimagined as a more modern MCU movie? 4) What if "Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash" (as well as a shared cinematic universe featuring Michael Myers, Leatherface, Chucky, etc.) happened? 5) What if we fixed the Dark Universe?

[@srstriker6420]

I agree with 4 and 5, what do you think about What if the invisible man was in the monster squad as Dracula’s spy, what if there was no cult in Halloween the curse of Michael Myers, what if the Creeper takes Trish instead of Darius in Jeepers creepers, What if the Riddler and Penguin were in the Dark knight rises, what if the Moleman and Annihilus were the 2015 fantastic four movie and what if Superman can’t reverse time in the first movie?

[@Partyboy22]

​@@srstriker6420 I like all of them for the most part. The only one I would truly tweak would be the Fantastic Four idea. I'd stick with Annihilus as the main villain and save the Mole Man for a future sequel. I can also see the Invisible Man serve as a Renfield type for Dracula. As for the Superman one, perhaps we can see Lana Lang become the new love interest going forward or Superman finding another way to bring back Lois. But I can dig all of these.

[@jasongradyphstiger6179]

Yes I will love to see The what if John Connor didn't die in terminator dark fate That could have been more better.

[@srstriker6420]

@@Partyboy22 instead of Superman going insane like all over again

[@Partyboy22]

Thought of two more: What if Martin Riggs died at the end of "Lethal Weapon 2"? What if Martin Riggs saved Rika in "Lethal Weapon 2"? Both of these scenarios were considered in early drafts but were axed out of the final cut. Would be a good "What if" story either way.

[@isaacrogers4174]

50:49 The resilience suit was such a nice touch, it works so well for the plot.

[@thedarkestnightmare616]

Okay. . THIS. .is the best Spider-Man Fanscription. . I got a soft spot for the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies. .and this was just a treat. Especially coming off your Spider-Man 3 episode. . the vampire/Dracula take on Vulture was definitely a take I didn't expect, but really enjoyed, it actually kind of reminded me of how Vulture was portrayed in the 90s Animated show. Peter's arc of learning to move on and trust others really shined through, especially considering how in previous movies, and your fanscription people Peter thought he could trust ended up becoming his worst enemies, and a story about learning to trust again, especially after the death of MJ. The take on Black Cat is definitely different compared to other portrayals, but it was a nice depiction none the less. And that reveal of Miles Warren suddenly being alive. . Gave me chills. . and knowing WHO Miles Warren is in the comics. . I am MORE THAN EXCITED TO SEE YOU TACKLE A SEQUEL FANSCRIPTION TO THIS. . Spider-Man 5. . . THE CLONE SAGA. . I'm looking forward to that.

[@srstriker6420]

Have you heard of David S Goyer’s flash movie?

[@joshuahecht6866]

Energy Vampire Insanity Vulture is an energy vampire

[@srstriker6420]

@@joshuahecht6866 and I guess the Turtle from Flash year one counts as well?

[@TRTMN-vs3ew]

I too enjoyed the Dracula take on Vulture. Wish they had gone a little bit further by perhaps emulating additional popular vampiric tropes. Specifically, bats. There are two ways this could work... 1) Special blade-like feathers on Vulture's wings can detach and fly around him like a swarm of bats via an artificially generated magnetic field. These feathers can then be launched towards targets with deadly speed by reversing the polarity of the field. Vulture is able to recall the feathers by returning the magnetic field's polarity to normal, even repositioning some onto his forearms to use as melee weapons. 2) Vulture could use a series of special bird-like drones, the V-Drones, modified from more commercialized drones developed by his company. Though lacking any significant weapons, the V-Drones ram into their targets with significant speed and force, using their sharp wings, beaks, and talons to inflict serious damage. Due to their lightly armored fragile frames, the V-Drones rely on hit-and-run/ambush tactics and numbers to overwhelm stronger targets. In terms of how Vulture drains the youth of his victims, it may have something to do with Telomeres. Telomeres are the ends of chromosomes that protect the chromosomes from damage and make sure our DNA is copied properly during cellular division; growing shorter and shorter each time a person's cells divide. This indicates the person is getting older, as once the Telomeres are too short, their cells can no longer divide and become inactive. Vulture's youth drain probably involves him artificially rejuvenating his own Telomeres by stealing them from others. Since Telomeres also help a person's DNA retain their genetic information, this could also explain how Vulture gains Spider-Man's Powers since his body is absorbing the mutated genetic information Peter's DNA has.

[@joshuahecht6866]

@@srstriker6420 I guess if Turtle is an energy vampire sucking the life out of people then yes.

[@peanutbutterjeff5364]

Man, if they announced this tomorrow, I’d have more hype than No Way Home. Even then, I’m only interested in it for the old actors. This seems like a legitimately good script and execution. Definitely want to see Campbell as Mysterio.

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[@tonybippitykaye]

You know, we get a lot of stories of Spider-Man still young and fresh. I think a great thing we could see is a seasoned Spider-Man well into his superhero days grappling his impending old age and other crises that come with it. We’ve seen what it could be like with Into the Spider-Verse and that interpretation, it could be interesting to see an older Toby McGuire or someone of similar caliber go through this. Regardless, I love this fanscription! It was intriguing from start to finish and I’m sold on checking out your other videos!

[@darthcinema4262]

Wel if you also want a seasoned Spiderman, check out the PS4 game or the Spiderman Unlimited cartoon.

[@moviemonster1652]

I’ll recommend Spider-Man: Life Story

[@tonybippitykaye]

@@darthcinema4262 I’ve played that one and I absolutely loved it. I meant more along the lines of a Spider-Man similar to the one Walter presented in this (maybe not as old, but approaching that age. Like an Old Man Logan, but with Peter)

[@darthcinema4262]

@@tonybippitykaye Oh OK, I get it. Sort of a middle aged Spiderman who has plenty of experience. That would be a cool idea, especially if he made to be a bit darker and isn't as merciful as he usually is.

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[@awood9214]

23:57 "You'll land on your feet...you always do". My goodness that was smooth writing. Robbie definitely knows. Happy Holidays Everyone!

[@nobody73642]

Great story, love the themes you chose and how you grew Peter's characters. Only thing I felt was off was Vulture's death. It's fitting but I felt like he should have had spent his last moments begging for help before his aging body failed him. It would have tied into the theme of acceptance help and how Tomes kept betraying others to maintain his youth.

[@civilbeast165]

I love how you had Vulture learns Spider-Man’s identity. The villain learning the hero’s identity has been overdone and has become a cheap way of making the story more dramatic. But having Vulture learn who Spider-Man is moments before his death avoided those problems

[@anon123214]

That was some pretty good writing! The emotion couldn't come up to par with Toby's acting, but the story wasn't affected by it.

[@nightwing2199]

The moment you added Warren...I knew what was going to happen. Also the idea of using David Tenant as Warren is genius, I could definitely see it. This was definitely an interesting idea and concept in its entirety!

[@SplashSurfer216]

“It helps maintain the illusion!” Great call-back! XD Who else theorizes the snooty usher was meant to be Quentin Beck?

[@pokemaster123ism]

If I recall Raimi confirmed that would have been the case for Spider Man 4

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

I think he’s all three. My guess is that he’s one of those small time actors who wanted a huge career but never reached stardom. He probably robs whatever establishment he works at once he’s been there long enough

[@autobotproductions1244]

I think so, but I think making Mysterio as just a cameo was a mistake. I’ve always felt that Mysterio was strong enough a villain to carry his own movie (hence Far From Home)

[@algordo1997]

Black Cat pulling off that upside down kiss was beautiful.

[@coreymajtyka460]

This was great, looking forward to a potential Spider-Man 5 or whatever else you guys have on the way. My cousin is a big fan of this series and I just sent him this and your Spider-Man 3 video to check out. Keep up the great work

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[@Mattucker67]

I LOVED THIS! The Vulture vs Elderly Peter story arc was one of my favorites from the 94 series. I also love the setup for a clone saga based story.

[@zom8680]

Going into this without knowing all the Spider man characters I was extremely intrigued on who Arthur Avis (sp?) was... you are a great writer always keeping me hooked

[@ndhickson3599]

Vulture is a Spider-Man villain I knew very little of so I can relate

[@davidstone281]

I absolutely LOVED this!! I really hope you continue these. I'd like to see a Spider-Man 5 with The Lizard and possibly Spider-Man 6 with the black suit and Venom. Maybe have Scorpion as a cameo much like Mysterio was.

[@suryasingh9738]

Why did SONY cancel this? Do they not know how much Sam Raimi Sacrificed?!

[@cainbutler6291]

Lol 😂 I see u referencing Green Goblin’s memorable rant

[@Jeremy_theGent]

Sony: You're out, Sam. Sam Raimi: (10 years later) ...Am I?

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@Jeremy_theGent lol 😂

[@johnenigma8506]

I would say their version still had Mary Jane in it and I'll keep it at that.

[@suryasingh9738]

@@cainbutler6291 You know, I'm something of a person with culture itself.

[@aldairreynoso2564]

I really like the Swan Lake inclusion in the reveal that Toomes and Arthur are the same person. I would've loved to see that scene play out in theaters

[@jakedanger2630]

10/10 love that you took the vulture idea from the cartoon show well done. Please make another story of this please Make your own spider man 5 with the post credit or with a story of the Lizard

[@kaspergamer460]

This is a fantastic take on Vulture. Very Raimi-esque. Creepy, with a sense of gravitas.

[@rodatxe7613]

I thought this was incredible. I felt like all of these ideas were well implemented. I would love to see a continuation in a Spiderman 5 video, if you guys have more to write. Great job as always!

[@evilcrash8683]

Hope we're not too late for the "Homecoming" Dance or travelling Into the "Spider-Verse!"

[@jacksithlord1301]

*plays drum*

[@callumhaigh8233]

Sadly we’ll be Far From Home at this point. And to make it worse there’ll be No Way Home

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@jacksithlord1301 😂😆🤣

[@srstriker6420]

What if the green goblin kills the kingpin into the spider Verse?

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[@tophat2825]

This was amazing! I had a moment around the mid point of the video thinking “where is this going?” Then the realisation that He was Adrian Tombs hit me like a truck. I’m very much looking forward to any more of these you want to make!

[@anthonyhunter6026]

After that post credit scene, you have to continue this with spiderman 5. I really enjoyed this, reminded me a little bit of darkman when it came to the vulture.

[@InimicalWit]

After Spider-Man 2, I wrote my own fanfic of a Spider-Man 3 where John Jameson would need saving from a return trip from orbit, leading directly into the symbiote storyline (and indirectly into other threads). John and MJ would be depicted as having stayed friends; leaving Peter and John to show a kind of distant respect for one another. During this, Harry would go through a truncated arc as Goblin, but then have scenes going through therapy with Dr. Hamilton. It’s tough to remember, now, because it was basically just a thumbnail script outline that I didn’t hold onto, but both Harry and Bart would don the Goblin outfit while Peter dealt with growing issues with the symbiote. The whole ordeal would also set up Jameson for becoming Man-Wolf, hence the illustrated fact of him being an astronaut (building on the mere mention we got in the finished movie that introduced the character). Brock would be shown uncovering the fact that Harry had terrorized as Goblin, but since Harry really was trying to put that bad chapter behind himself, Peter would help, using his own (somehow discovered/deduced) knowledge of Dr. Hamilton to save Harry’s reputation and (perhaps only inadvertently) discredit Eddie. Peter would separate from the symbiote near the end of the movie, introducing/teasing Venom in a fade to black that left Venom’s eyes briefly visible; and perhaps a mid/post-credits screen showing JJ III in a scene with the ruby that would eventually lead to his metamorphosis, though it wouldn’t be shown. Great video, liking the hypothesizing; have viewed several so far. These have certainly been better developed than my above scrap of an idea.

[@trainlover16]

I thought Spider Man 3 wrapped up everyone’s character arcs very nicely, and thought a 4th film wasn’t necessary. You’ve officially changed my mind.

[@thundersaAscam]

Keep in mind spider-man 3’s production problems/raimi’s muddled original plans for the 3rd film and like it was said in the video Spider-man 3 originally wasn’t gonna be the final film but every one’s entitled to there own opinion I guess

[@coltgun876]

@@thundersaAscam Spider-Man 3 turned out the way it did because of Sony. If it wasn't for them, Spider-Man 3 would be just as good as as the first two movies and Spider-Man 4, 5, and 6 wouldn't have been cancelled. It's a damn shame I remember when I was little I wanted to see Connors become The Lizard.

[@thundersaAscam]

@@coltgun876 Ya I know Sony ruined the original plans for Spider-Man 3 *heavily* with Venom and all of that and I love Venom too but it just wasn’t gonna work great in Spider-Man 3 because like he said in the video there was already a lot going on in the movie which is a shame, I really would’ve loved to see the Vulture in Spider-Man 4 and possibly also the Lizard for Spider-Man 5 and maybe even Spider-Man 6 but alas we got what we got…

[@Gamesforus1]

I really like the vulture/mothman connection. Really cool, and fits the Raimi vibes perfectly.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

I look forward to hearing this. I’m curious how this version of Vulture is going to be 😃😃😃 I absolutely love the Bruce Campbell Mysterio personality 😂😂😂 OMG David Tennant as Miles Warren/Jackal is a casting choice I would never have thought of. BRILLIANT!

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

The horror movie aesthetic for Vulture is awesome!!!

[@srstriker6420]

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 I would have picked Gary Oldman as the Jackal

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@srstriker6420 Damn. That would be a great casting choice 😃

[@srstriker6420]

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 well because he looks the part

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@srstriker6420 true. Very true

[@darkbonnie87fan]

this changes everything even the one that dosent have venom is like im living in another reality and vulture story is good than just keatons vulture in mcu the plot and story arc of every characther is perfect

[@alexallen9640]

Cool story, and nice post credit. Hearing Miles last line reminded me of Godzilla: King of the Monsters. 🙂👍🕸

[@WebbedManiac]

"Who is he?" "You sure you wanna know?" Lmao the callback. This is great.

[@braedonbrown8406]

OMG they said neogenics I love that Easter egg to the Spider-Man animated series good job guys! 😍😁👍

[@jacksvendsgaard2270]

This was incredibly well done! I love the direction of the Vulture, definitely feels like a horror movie villain. I am curious what direction you'd take this story in if revisited. The end credit scene could definitely set up a Clone Saga-inspired film, I think it would also be cool if Raimi did a film that did Venom justice.

[@chrisvossler8795]

I would love to see your take on a Spider-Man 5 with the Jackal!

[@daseal1479]

I would love to see this as an animated series or movie continuing the Raimi continuity, while Andrew gets his live-action movie continuation like you guys came up with previously, especially now that Sony and Marvel seem open to working with the older Spideys again.

[@brandonmclendon5368]

Well this was perfect timing, cause there’s a rumor that Spider Man 4 will be happening in an animated film

[@gojithriller6622]

Where’d you here this?

[@JohnSmithsu2006]

Giant freaking robot.

[@ego6342]

Better not be animated. Sounds awful

[@gojithriller6622]

@@ego6342 I personally wouldn’t mind seeing it in animation as long as the us the original cast I’m okay with it

[@jasonlewis9240]

No no animated🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Hope SONY doesn’t do that

[@jerra1168]

This was fantastic. I would love to see a sequel or two connecting to this. Every fanscript always has me on the edge of my seat. Great video!

[@jim1174]

Raimis Spider-Man 2 was definitely a masterpiece. The best Spider-Man movie.

[@_tonyvera]

Spider-Verse would like a word…

[@AionShanks]

@@_tonyvera spiderverse isn't better than spiderman 2 come on

[@_tonyvera]

@@AionShanks I mean, it’s closer than any of the MCU and Tasm movies, minus No Way Home.

[@AionShanks]

@@_tonyvera look to be honest with you, I know I am in the minority but I really didn't enjoy spider verse that much. Other than the laggy frame rate I also thought the pacing was bad and the villain not that interesting. Again that's just me though most people love it

[@_tonyvera]

@@AionShanks That’s fine, I do agree it’s overrated, but I just like it. It’s a great movie that I whole heartedly enjoy. Then again I’m bias for cartoons soooo…

[@velociraptor4you3291]

‘Arthur AVIS’…I see what you did there, Walter. This whole characterization of the Vulture is also a callback to his portrayal in the 90s “Spider-Man” animated series. Now I remember from the ‘What If Venom Wasn’t In “Spider-Man 3?”’ episode that Eddie Brock *was* still there, but he’s absent here. What happened to him (🤔)? This was EXCELLENTLY done, though (👏)! Keep this series up, Walter (👍).

[@MrBlueSkyof1607]

Not only that, the word avis means ‘bird’ in Latin.

[@velociraptor4you3291]

@@MrBlueSkyof1607 I didn't know that till now. Learn something new every day! Thanks (😊).

[@MyBenjamin73]

The fact that we can get Spider-Man 4, Amazing Spider-Man 3, and Fuckin' Spider Man Broken Home or whatever the next one would be called as full possibilities in our future, all at the same time is so beautiful.

[@SIdCon03]

I’m so glad I lived king enough to see the Cool Youth Pastor and all the praise for Peter 3 happening. This is beautiful indeed

[@emersonflorez97]

For holland's Spiderman i think the film should be called: HOME INVASION/HOME WRECKER/SWEET HOME

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@emersonflorez97 lol Homewrecker.

[@AionShanks]

@@emersonflorez97 its gonna be based on kravens last hunt but will probably be called something else, the word home won't be on the title I can guarantee that.

[@I_dont_like_anime]

It’s never going to happen

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Using the 70s Spidey actor for Old Peter is a nice touch.

[@Jonzy420]

I love seeing Channel Awesome get more into Marvel content!!!

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Same. I’d love to see them do The Sinister 6

[@srstriker6420]

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 yeah and the Masters of evil in the MCU

[@srstriker6420]

@Otha Bland II like what if Brainiac was Superman 3 or what if Superman didn’t give up his powers in Superman 2?

[@feathero3]

This was great! The biggest thing I would have changed is not having Harry Die in the previous film. Instead the physical damage from the final fight could have knocked just enough sense into him for him to realize what he has done before he escapes. This way the he would have been living with guilt of what he did 6 years ago, and trying to make it right with Peter by using his Goblin Gear to be a hero. Then in this film, it be a HUGE step and lesson for Peter to try and trust him when he needed help against The Vulture.

[@mangofango5493]

Pleaaaaase make your own “what if spider man 5” and “what if Spider-Man 6” happened because this is BEAUTIFULLY written and I love this video

[@BiggusWeeabus]

i LOVE how you decided to continue from where you left off your Spider-man 3 video

[@jakobrenner2230]

Overall very solid work here. Mary Jane's death has a major thematic impact on this story and Gwen's chemistry with Peter is very well-handled. The main highlight for me was the main villain: everything about him was unsetteling and terrifying and was portrayed as a very serious threat. The only thing I would have added would be at least a mention of Harry coming from Peter, as not only his actions had a lot of impact on Spidey's current state (with the murder of MJ) but he was also his best friend who betrayed him and died a homicidal lunatic. Once again, a very good what-if video, 8.5/10 coming from me.

[@OverlordZenith]

This was absolutely amazing and I definitely need a spider man 5 and potentially 6 from you. The vulture changes were probably my favorite take on the character so far.

[@BenJPics9925]

Sam Rami himself must have been disappointed with the production of Spider-Man 4. From what I read, he was given four different treatments for the script and he rejected all of them.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Oof lol 😆

[@Rosay_Fitness]

Its makes sense as a director because he had gave his all in his first 2 movies and for the third one to be controlled and intervened from his own vision,and him wahting to redeem himself from the third film he felt like 4 needed to be better ,not bigger but better story driven a craft and redemetion but the studio aint let him

[@JasonMovieNrd]

I don't the people working on sm3 I blame Sony and Avi Arad

[@cyber-thundr_]

If Spider-Man 4 was made & came out on May 6, 2011, the behind the scenes will be that after a critical disaster of Spider-Man 3, Sony made a promise to Mr. Sam Raimi that if he can just do 1 more Spider-Man movie, if Raimi said “fine, but just 1 more film” he can finally leave the door, making Spider-Man 4 as the final chapter of that particular Spider-Man movie franchise. And after Raimi left, Sony had no idea what they’re gonna do with those Marvel characters next, so in 2012, during Disney’s mega success with The Avengers, Sony Pictures announced that they will make a contract with Marvel/Disney to bring Spider-Man to the MCU in the next 5 years. Making The Amazing Spider-Man with Andrew Garfield as none existent in that alternate timeline.

[@gavinkailey527]

First Batman Forever made by Tim Burton, then TASM 3, AND now this, you guys are killing these! Thank you I have no other words except, I have no words

[@boogiemir]

This is a very good video you did a good job narrating the story. this felt like a real movie in my head and you also did a good job making it come alive. 👍🏾

[@ChannelAwesome]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@shainewhite2781]

56:23, Tooms chose...poorly. So glad you put the clip from Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade in this video. This is how you do a villian's death scene.

[@Makman1994]

As a longtime Spiderman fan longing for Spiderman 4, this was a great Christmas present😍. Thank you and Merry Christmas🎄

[@35_riyaanraney90]

I was so exited to see this one seeing how raimi wanted spider man 4 to be the best movie yet and vulture to be more brutal than any of the other villains

[@blakeskerritt4132]

J. Jonah Jameson is portrayed perfectly in this video

[@ShermanYeo]

Why do I get the feeling that Miles Warren is gonna make the Clone Saga happening? Because I can't wait to see this! :3

[@kwayneboy1524]

Prohaps a dark mary Jane story line with it.

[@justyouraveragegeek548]

Well miles in the comics has a brother Raymond Warren

[@Rhearipleyaussie23]

He did it in the 1994 Spider-Man animated series so if this movie does come out in 2022, or in Spider-Man 5 then it could happen.

[@srstriker6420]

@@Rhearipleyaussie23 yes with Hydroman

[@travisc7722]

I love this. I love how terrifying the vulture was in this. Nice to see Black Cat too. I hope you guys do a part 5!!

[@adambump5297]

If they let the team that did Homecoming, Far From Home & No Way Home do Spider-Man 4 I'd be all for it hell I'd be all for having them do the Amazing Spider-Man 3 too I'd wanna see how they changed after the events of No Way Home.

[@ironhorse3826]

I adored this, seriously this would’ve been the best Spider-Man movie ever. I also expected Miles Morales to be the person renting the apartment at the end!The only thing I would’ve changed would be be keep the original fight and death scene of Vulture. I can’t wait to see what other Spidey stories fanscription will come up with next

[@keirchallinor9273]

I enjoyed it great job. Something I think this story was missing was peters story arc. It would be nice to see Peter choosing to work alone afraid of putting people at risk. But other than that I loved it it furthered Ramies franchise, loved how it returned to one super villain while introducing returning and new characters. Something I’d be interested seeing is reimagining of Spider-Man homecoming sequel far from home. What if scorpion and vulture were in Spider-Man far from home. Making vulture a type of antihero doing a job to protect his family, and Peter trying to figure out what to do.

[@srstriker6420]

Yeah and finally make the Sinister Six

[@beagleboi1442]

I think this was amazing I hope we get to see a continuation from this video at some point

[@afflicks]

I really liked this episode. Please do a Spider-Man 5 one!

[@Drousy1870]

You know I always and still hope for a Spider-Man 4 directed by Sam Raimi even though I know it’ll never happen. This video is like I traveled into an alternate timeline where the movie did actually release. It filled in the void of what I’ve been wanting.

[@thereplication2567]

Time. Space. Reality. It's more than a linear path. It's a prism of endless possibility, where a single choice can branch out into infinite realities, creating alternate worlds from the ones you know. I am the Watcher. I am your guide through these vast new realities. Follow me and ponder the question... "What if?"

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

We’ve had “what if?” but what about “What The?”

[@MovieFan1912]

In one universe, this story would be cut short because the storyteller was under constraints from those around him, but in another universe…

[@deepspacecreative]

Please continue this story with a Spider-Man 5!

[@dukenightrider6104]

It would have been even cooler if older Peter was played by Stan lee. Also I hope in what if Spider-Man 5 happened we get to see Peter in the symbiote suit, the origin of spider Gwen, and the lizard as the villain

[@srstriker6420]

@Ice King what’s that?

[@srstriker6420]

@Ice King of course

[@dukenightrider6104]

@Ice King but tobey maguires Spider-Man 4 was to be released in 2011 and this fanfiction was to be assuming it came out in 2011 so Stan lee would still be alive since he died in 2018. Besides max von sydow is dead as well since 2020. So if this were to be released in 2011, both Stan and max would still be alive around that time.

[@SonicSmith134]

Well...Tbh, I think the "Origin of Spider-Gwen" happened in an Alternate Timeline.

[@ToonGal12]

In the comics, Gwen Stacy came first, and then after she died, Mary Jane became Peter's true love who helped him recover after losing Gwen. So it's so weird seeing this alternate take where the roles are switched, where MJ came first, then died, and it's Gwen who becomes the new girlfriend. And for as much as I loved the MCU's take on the Vulture, this alternate universe version is pretty cool too. You all did such a great job on this pitch!

[@shrek9489]

This is a certified hood classic

[@nerdywithautism99]

That was amazing so emotional I was on the edge of my seat the entire video. I would love to see a fan scription video for Spider-Man 5 & Spider-Man 6 it would be cool to see...

[@mochathought]

Would've been nice to see black cat in a movie

[@gilly5809]

I'm so sad a 4th installment never happened. This was really well-done.

[@ThatDistantShore]

Bully Maguire: I missed the part where thats my problem

[@jadekissling]

I thought your take on Spider-Man 4 was honestly amazing. To be honest, I wish we could see an official Spider-Man 4 movie, but unfortunately that got cancelled.

[@thenerdwholovesentertainme1721]

That was pretty well put together. I enjoyed every moment of it and I hope this continues one day. Until the time comes, I'll be waiting. As Stan Lee Once Said.... "Face Front True Believer."

[@rodrigolucaslopes3565]

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[@Jackie-McCann]

57:37 “I’ve been on the move my whole life. Couldn’t stop now if I wanted to… besides, I’m wanted in every state from here to Ohio.” “Wait, what?!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@robiking011]

It's Sony's fault we didn't get a Spider - Man 4 with Tobey Maguire. It's also Sony's fault we didn't get an Amazing Spider - Man 3. Who can trust Sony at this point?

[@thenerdwholovesentertainme1721]

I feel your pain.

[@petergriffin355]

I mean we got 3 solid spiderman mcu films and a spider verse film. It’s okay.

[@fatbgmanbg975]

@@petergriffin355 just the nwh and spiderverse...

[@DGenerationMC]

Marvel Studios..................................?

[@aidanhever3369]

They also cancelled The Spectacular Spiderman cartoon.

[@zekehoang851]

Definitely could see more humorous scenes of Nicholas Hammond as the elderly Spider-Man between the times he turned old until he was cured. As far as post-credits scenes go, while bringing back Mr. Ditkovich and his daughter was a great addition to the film, I feel like the introduction of the Lizard alter ego for Connors would've been the perfect set up for Spider-Man 5 as rumors heavily supported Lizard being the next villain in the franchise.

[@Ali-sh5sx]

With the hype right now Frankly speaking An amazing spiderman 3 or a spiderman 4 or even better both Is just a smart business decision It will make money Maybe not box office breaking But It would be worth the investment Neither Tobey or Andrew are getting younger either so the time is limited

[@TheSpeedMason]

Godamn, this is so good. Loved how you incorporated in the Neogenic season of Spider-Man TAS into Spider-Man 4 but minus the more confusing aspects like the Six-Armed Spidey plots. There's genuinely times in this video that I've uttered to myself "godamn that's fucking genius", especially using Nicholas Hammod as the older Peter. Also loved how you set up Officer Davis instead of shoehorning in Miles forcefully so that if Miles ever appears as a Spidey in your next Raimiverse Spider-Man fanscription it would feel more natural than anything. Great job, dude! Take your time if you're planning on making a Spider-Man 5 fanscription, absolutely loved this one.