What If Wallace and Gromit Had Smoother Stop-Motion?

[@fredgwynn8933]

The entire charm of Stop Motion is the way it looks so lovingly handled by people and the artifical low frame element. It makes it art

[@XJamesM2001X]

You can tell that these animations weren’t meant for high frame rates. As a matter of fact, it takes away the charm and the genuine feeling of stop motion animation.

[@paigeanddylanbishop]

I agree completely.

[@jacechretin4597]

Couldn’t have said it better myself

[@Al-cf9qi]

Still fun to see how it looks with an higher smoothness

[@shadylapizo9245]

This I can agree with.

[@windwaker9514]

agreed

[@darthgamer6080]

24fps is already resource intensive for traditional stop motion, I cannot imagine the work and time needed for a true 60fps+ stop motion film, let alone 120fps.

[@BruhMoment-lu5jd]

I think it’s impressive technology but the original is still much better, I don’t think interpolation is bad but it should be used to assist the process. Applying it to already completed animations take away the beauty of what the original artists intended

[@Maritime_Memories]

@@1701echopapa yeah but a big part of the charl in wallace and gromit is the snappy anim

[@Maritime_Memories]

Charm* god dammiy

[@brucehoggard8467]

@@1701echopapa Can't argue with that.

[@Medachod]

@@1701echopapa I mean, that's what you're saying. Unless the original artist comments on this video, _you_ are going purely off an assumption.

[@ethanthomsen3973]

One thing you should never critique on stop motion animator's work is the framerate.

[@JohnnyDeere]

There's an almost uncanny feeling to the smoother animation where it feels much more unnatural than the original.

[@Ttegegg]

Probably because is not hand made and ai doing it. Besides it doesn’t always fit the style. Yea that channel that talked about.

[@Ttegegg]

Noodle

[@ericksales3130]

I agree

[@fryingpan5472]

It’s actually suprisingly true on that, on a step where it gets realistic things feel unnatural, then becomes terrifying the point where is goes too realistic. At some point true realism (being alive and seeing in your prespective) would sooner become natural

[@JohnnyDeere]

@@ExtremeWreck it's like every frame is melting into each other.

[@martyc3447]

this brings me so much nostalgia. The curse of the were-rabbit was my absolute most favorite movie as a young lad!

[@lizarmstrong6695]

I watched curse of the were rabbit this morning aha

[@Inkbower]

What you just said does not fit your profile picture

[@henrikszilagyi]

@@Inkbower it says m profile

[@ruzgar767]

That traumatized me when i was a kidddd

[@paganavenger8920]

The Wrong Trousers is one of my favorite shorts in Nick Park's anthology series, the climax is absolutely hilarious, which is just pure gold.

[@RadiantMantra]

It looks alright in some scenes, but I feel like movement heavy scenes look paradoxically very static This is some really impressive tech though, I feel like this would make production for other things much easier.

[@pink22702]

It's so funny to see that! Makes me realize that I prefere the original, not by nostalgia, but because with the upgrade version, it gives the feeling of a modern animation movie, while the original gives this much more physical and textural feeling. It gives this funny charm, the characters seems to be lighltly clumsy and odd, in a very unique way. It's still great to have these kinds of technology and it opens a lot of possibilities though.

[@harrisonmccartney4878]

I completely agree about it seeming like a CGI animation instead of stop-motion animation. Stop-motion is meant to have a kind of janky, uneven pace between frames, whereas with modern CGI the framerate is much smoother. They both look good when they're done in their respective styles, but making stop motion run at CGI framerates is as jarring to look at as making CGI imitate stop motion frame pacing.

[@DundG]

​@@harrisonmccartney4878A huge compliment for cgi!

[@derekhandson351]

Fantastic for video games

[@ianjackson4721]

I grew up watching Wallace and gromit movies sometimes, and seeing this smoother animation is actually pretty confusing mentally, like that just challenges how you remember it. Amazing tho.

[@Smg4_chileno]

0:48 LA PUTA MADRE GROMIT OLVIDAMOS LOS PLATOS

[@pollotepolli1596]

Eterno

[@Glaciartest]

Hombre de cultura

[@elDiamante1323]

Porque mierda siempre comentan cosas del ytph en videos de Wallace y Gromit?!

[@jasonavidal8576]

I wish aardman kept making Wallace and Gromit short films.

[@williamthompson6755]

It's your lucky day, they've announced a new one coming Christmas 2024 :))

[@jasonavidal8576]

@@williamthompson6755 really?

[@williamthompson6755]

Yep, in the synopsis they've released, Wallace invents a smart gnome to help around the house, with Gromit stepping in when things don't go to plan... it was an official press release by Aardman at the same time they released the first image from Chicken Run 2.

[@jasonavidal8576]

@@williamthompson6755 Yee Haw! I love Aardman now!

[@gabrielv.4358]

@@williamthompson6755 Chicken run 2? Great.

[@len5440]

the smoother animation makes it looks like it's a 3g cgi instead of a real stop motion animation

[@RictusMetallicus]

Thou shalt not tinker with what is already perfect.

[@nostalgia64d]

Plato 🍽️

[@nacional_de_uruguay]

*busca un plato*

[@The_1933]

​@@nacional_de_uruguay PLATO

[@nacional_de_uruguay]

@@The_1933 *busca el plato otra vez*

[@HolasoyLucas22]

​@@nacional_de_uruguay Mueve la cabeza de izquierda a derecha

[@sonichv5498]

@@HolasoyLucas22 😨😨*empieza a buscar en las bolsas *

[@quirkynoms7579]

May be the odd one out here, but I think this works really well with the more modern W&G animations. With the older ones, it can look a little uncanny. But as the character models got more defined and maintained their form better, the extra frames actually makes them feel more lifelike (most of the time, not every second necessarily). I personally wouldn't mind if they implemented this to some degree in the future.

[@puppiekit]

Honestly the AI gives the entire thing I really eerie, life-like vibe. Uncanny, I suppose. I feel like it would work really well if someone delved into that amd created something a little creepy specifically to run through this AI....

[@mockemperor953]

I agree with you but some places really feel weird and need lower fps and I think a slightly lower fps over all would help

[@jasonblalock4429]

Yeah, at the least, it works a lot better than attempts I've seen at interpolating hand-drawn animation. I think the physicality of stop-motion puppets makes them look less-wrong with the framerate increased.

[@Chato-zg1jb]

@@mockemperor953 Prácticamente que los FPS no fueran constantes, allí si quedaría piola

[@Vitallor]

Wallace is supposed to be an older person so it makes sense he dosen’t have super fast movement

[@zeroman0460]

If the Train Chase had the Interpolation and the Motion Blur, it is already really good. The original is just as good though, you could clearly tell that Aardman put loads of work into that one whole scene which is very impressive at the time.

[@orangesplatanimations]

I think we all know the original looks better. It's just interesting to see it smoother

[@jettvalen7326]

A lot of people seem to be on the same page when it comes to the AI process of interpolation ultimately botching the intended timing of the animation, which is good to see. Although I do think that whenever it's seen with liquids in this video, it gives of quite an interesting effect.

[@Waltman13]

2:56 the first 2 shots on this result look really good here. I think if you just play around with the settings a bit more, you could get it to look great in 60fps without making it too smooth.

[@mockemperor953]

Yeah this is the first and only time the higher fps actually looks good in any animation

[@RJA]

The HD quality probably makes it look better, high frame rate SD footage never looks right.

[@Uncomentaristamas571]

0:30 Te Dire Algo Amigo Gromit...

[@SuperFabriSparkle795]

*A L G O*

[@volkhergoetz]

I like the smoother one with higher frame rate way better

[@Dolmio24]

Cool technology but the magic is lost at such high framerates.

[@22Tesla]

A nice show of how technology has advanced to smooth out jerky action, but I don't think it's suited. It kinda takes away the charm. Especially when you see how the animation changes from A Grand Day Out to The Wrong Trousers and so on, you get a VERY nice progression and evolution. First it was just Wallace and Gromit, then we got detailed settings, then we got more dynamic action scenes plus new characters, and in Curse of the Were Rabbit we got the fully fleshed out universe these characters exist in. Amazing to think about

[@e-122psi3]

Yeah, i like how Vengence Most Fowl seems to be celebrating Wallace and Gromit full realised in this regard, the first proper 'sequel' that is showcasing the slow established upgrades in animation, design, characters and setting that now make the W+G universe. Only sad lack is Peter Sallis as Wallace, though they at least still celebrate that with a damn good soundalike of his performance as Wallace.

[@WookaszZajebisty]

this does not look bad unlike Anime in 60 fps made by ai

[@applesaucemaneatsmoss]

if you set the video to 0.25 and look at a fast scene like Gromit making a track as the train keeps going, his arms have the same problematic blur as some 60 fps anime scenes

[@applesaucemaneatsmoss]

also in that same scene, Wallace's movement looks terrible

[@MetaBro]

I’m happy to see so many people here not praise the interpolation, and rather admit that the original is better. Sometimes it’s better to have lesser frame rate, if that means for a better overall animation

[@SuperWarrior64]

This looks really good. If Aardman ever made a remastered version of the Wallace and Gromit films I could imagine them looking something like this. But the O.G still has some fun charm and I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a remaster

[@yearsmonths]

People need to understand: smother≠better

[@Chuckles..]

Gromit riding the front of the train plopping track down in front of it still cracks me up!.

[@jimmythegrunt7371]

It's incredible how the smoother animation looks even more lifeless.

[@Nevershowusername]

to be honest i think the lower framerates make it look cooler and it fits the style more

[@gftyhify]

Smoother stop motions does work for certain types of films, material and characters like Nightmare before Christmas and Coraline, but not here. The less smooth animation is part of Wallace and Gromit’s charm and that should never be taken away

[@Mariocat99]

I swear everytime I see the AI frame I always think of the Store quality TV's that appeals the customer

[@realchristian77010]

I think it's would be great in my opinion.

[@ianwhitlock757]

I think the simple answer to this question would be that it would lose some of it's charm as it takes all the punch out of the timing for the most part (that's one thing that we've always spent a lot of time working on with these characters).

[@bigred3164]

Any excuse to watch these old chaps again! 🥰

[@ThatRetroGuy2005]

The 120fps shows how much work has been put into these firms

[@yuranft9740]

Honestly none of the media convinced me that 60fps is better ever in the 25 years of my life lol

[@TonyG-z4t]

Is it just me, but I can't tell the difference between the original and the computer enhanced version?!

[@Valcuda]

I feel the smoother framerate gives it a digital feel. It's more like someone tried animating it so it looked like it was made of clay

[@kellimon3517]

what I'm learning by bingeing these "what if such-n-such stop motion was smoother" videos is that it really doesn't seem to do much.

[@bennickss]

The choppy framerate is part of what gave the original its charm

[@johnprudent3216]

I wouldn’t be opposed to someone doing an entire movie like this, on purpose. I think with right project this can be a useful technique to enhance the animation.

[@DBSMoonMaster]

The next step is for AI to recognize how the original lingers on certain frames/poses to create stylized animation. You can tell when Gromit’s laying tracks how the AI smooths too much. I could imagine a 40fps version looking better than 60

[@Prehistoric_YT]

Wallace and Gromit is a classic. We can all admit.

[@WackoMcGoose]

That, uh... yikes. I've never really been a fan of high-framerate TV in general (especially AI interpolation), and this definitely proves it right. Content should be watched at the framerate it was made to be watched at... although this does lead to an interesting side thought: what if someone _remade_ a W&G (or other claymation) clip at true 60fps, no interpolation? Would it still look uncanny, or would it look okay...?

[@yokaiwatcher8500]

I’m impressed by our techs ability to do such a thing, but the choppiness is part of the charm. It makes it clear to you that it’s imperfect, it’s not in the ballpark of smoothness of anything else. But it doesn’t have to be, because every frame was painstakingly created by hand. Molded, painted, photographed, and then it ceased to exist. Nothing but a single photograph that’s ultimate destiny is to be lost in a sea of other photographs played so quickly back to back that it tricks your eyes into thinking it’s seeing movement.

[@BMPK]

I feel a new movie coming out...

[@ToxicHorsePucky]

I feel like the smoother animation would only work if there were more intricately moving parts on the character models. The 24fps fits perfectly with the limited movements of the clay models.

[@josh4740]

I definitely would love to watch these whole films in 120fps it just makes them feel a little bit more up to date😊

[@latexu95]

1:35 Apparently Wallace has a magic box that generates endless amount of miniature railway pieces.🤣🚂

[@Patichu]

I seriously hope no one actually thinks this looks better at 120fps

[@elephantmarch]

This is like taking some carefully renderred painting where you can see the brush strokes used to define a surface, and then just smoothing it out with a Guassian blur effect. It takes all the warmth and human touch out of it, killing it. Generally with CGI animation, it takes a LOT of human intervention to take the uncanny feel OUT of it, so these kind of smoothing tricks defeat that somewhat. Generative tech like this could be good for filling in the cracks here and there, or taking out glaring errors that distract, but shouldn't be left to the final look.

[@leonchau345]

The better stop motion makes them look like they’re processed by a ghost

[@JoelyB2006]

The AI upscaled version is like most 4K 120Hz Smart TVs nowadays.

[@spartankongcountry6799]

The smoother one is so satisfying to watch

[@WasatchWind]

I direct viewers to Noodle's video on 60 fps animation. That is all.

[@Lucky_9705]

Wallace and Gromit was and still is a technical marvel. Stop motion is one of the hardest mediums of animation out there.

[@riftshredder5438]

I can barely tell the difference, Wallace and Gromit already has a pretty smooth frame rate

[@caoistico669]

The "not smotter" is what make the charm

[@jimmyjudha8424]

If the animators need smooth expression in sympathy, tired,liquid flow, speaking, and focused event, it seem working for me. However, in some scene, the original one give warm feeling, but the up sampling one focus on moving clay and overwhelm detail for fast action scene. Thank you for introduce the difference, I just realized the effect of frame rate.

[@NathnaelAtlaw]

Wow, the lighting in all of these scenes is amazing. Beats anything you'll see in theaters right now hands down

[@CountShaman]

Smooth Gromit looks mostly alright, but smooth Wallace draws out such feelings of disgust from me that I can't seem to describe. I think it's his mouth.

[@rocketmik65]

Was thinking it was gonna be worse than it is, but a decent job was done here

[@justamicrowave]

dear god this is so cursed i dont know whether to hate it or love it im having an existential crisis rn

[@kgunitkeese17]

These types of animation are not meant for high frame rates. As impressive as it is, I can see that it is not as natural. I find it takes away the feeling of the stop motion animation as a whole because it is the most difficult method of animation out there. That's why I always respect and admired stop motion because you can see how much time, effort and dedication it took to make them. One motion of movement took dozens of shots to make.

[@solidcoyote]

The original has the charm, while the other has a good flow, i just like the charm of the old one

[@KahnuevsKrake]

Aardman actually animate at 12FPS to preserve the charm of stop motion. It just goes to show it's all about they way it's animated, the personality and mannerisms of the characters as opposed to the framerate. I only noticed the smoothness because I was looking for it. And whether it's shot in 1080p or 4K, 12fps or 48fps etc, the audience isn't going to notice or care as long as you give them charming, likeable characters that are animated well.

[@Thetrainbloke]

This looks really uncanny for some reason to me, takes away some of the OG charm

[@PaRaDOX-de8bk]

"Gromit! The moon's made of wensleydale cheese!" - wallace

[@_Bren__]

A Grand Day Out brings me so much nostalgia. I remember watching it at my grandma’s with my brother when I was younger.

[@dangerdoberman]

Definitely love the original more.

[@raeanders3513]

It makes me sad when I see the interpolated animations of them doing anything with their hands - the original animation is so beautiful and well done. Sure, the interpolated higher frame rate looks more realistic, but it takes away the unique touch of the artists who animated it in the first place.

[@SvendleBerries]

Yeah, the smoother animation is neat to look at, but some things are just best left the way they are.

[@GeneSavage]

My reaction seems to be opposite of most others. I feel like stop motion has been shown through your videos to benefit most from higher fps, probably because it smooths out the inevitable errors between frames. Sorry others don't like it; I'm actually very impressed! It would be fun to have a box you could plug a blu ray player into and run the output at the original 24 fps, 48 fps, 60 fps, or 120 fps if you want. Never lose the original, but I think it's a great option. I'd love to see a public domain silent film like the original Phantom Of The Opera run through your technique.

[@immigranta9382]

The smartest dog I've ever seen

[@gc2696]

Sometimes, airbrushing over a van Gough doesn't make it better. However, a full length King Kong 1933 would be AWESOME !

[@pakawaka2365]

I think the best way to explain the charm of stop motion is that animation by itself is food for the eye, smooth animations are like pasta dishes, or soup, Meatloaf and mash, and many more. But stop motion is a refreshing new experience, it's frame rate being lower adds a crunchier and crispier feel, sure a pasta dish is good and tasty but the texture remains..well not as fun, but chips and Doritos and snacks and cereal or even pizza crust or toast, these are all much more fun to eat and snack on, hence stop motion

[@wunderwalze]

It works surprisingly well, especially compared to upscaled 2D animation. While the movement is off at times, it kinda looks like the puppets are moving in real life :o

[@aaaaea9268]

Twitter gotta hate for hate sake That's what they do best after all

[@Terjecs]

No it just looks worse and a lot of detail is lost

[@lenseeing829]

Me watching videos at 240p: *I see no problem here.*

[@Ronmauzy790]

Ok ngl this is actually cool

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

I do agree with the majority that the animation is more charming when filmed at a slower framerate however the wrong trousers ones were incredible, especially that scene where gromit was laying the track. I feel that needed it as it always seemed a bit... clunky.

[@ANEWTIMELINE]

First time I see this being used properly

[@FigFelix2009]

Imagine the frames they did shot if those films were 120 or 240 fps 🤯

[@user-ei8go8og5g]

I feel like I’m the only one that thinks the difference is so minuscule that it doesn’t make a difference either way, the original wallace and gromit stop motion is already rly smooth

[@aindreasmaccaibe4270]

The entire charm of Wallace and Gromit is the stop animation effects and the fact that they aren't completely computer rendered! Even if they were to "improve" the quality using modern computer software, it would completely ruin the whole effect that the show is loved for.

[@sonicphoenix7]

the older shorts look like actual ass as usual for interpolation but the newer stuff looks surprisingly decent and if it was animated with the interpolation in mind it would look genuinely really good

[@organicketchup5171]

It looks quite good. Pretty subtle, honestly.

[@jean-francoistasse7788]

It looks weird(not in a negative way) seeing it like that when we are used to the "old way", very interesting.

[@steam-punk7000]

It’s pretty cool. It’s easier to notice when you look at the mouths when they talk.

[@Wildlifesupernannyfan]

Here would have been the release dates of the movies: Grand day out: 1995 Wrong trousers: 2003 Close shave: 2007 Loaf and bread: 2012 Ware rabbit: 2018 All because more photos would have been needed and it would take so much longer

[@ian2057]

This works better the later you go, a grand day out simply doesnt have enough frames to work well with this but a matter of loaf and death? absolutely insane how good it looks with the interpolation, im not going to say it looks better, but it definitely doesnt look worse by any means, honestly part of what makes it so odd here is the fact that theres no audio

[@jeremytung1632]

I could barely tell the difference.

[@fireaza]

Smoother stop-motion already exists! It's called "CGI".

[@helloitsokyrago]

this is what steven wanted while making jurassic park

[@Haunted_Plush]

people seem to really dislike the edited versions, but I feel they have their place. I think used correctly, they could make certain scenes feel different, and not in a bad way. If this technique ends up being an asset in future stop motion productions, then I'm all for it.

[@theamazingtattletale8983]

It looks so smooth

[@jokerace8227]

To my eyes it had the most effect with smoothing the oldest one, which is the one that maybe does look better with it. The others I about have to see it side by side to really notice a whole lot of difference, as if my brain smooths it out. The rest of the series is quite good as is, but perhaps I'm nostalgic as well. lol

[@dumb_kaykay]

I just can't imagine Pingu at 60FPS, it loses all the magic, the charm of having those animations at low fps

[@companyfunnyvideo5260]

What the heck are you talking about?

[@dumb_kaykay]

@@companyfunnyvideo5260 Bruh you never heard about Pingu? That one cartoon of a Penguin with a red beak and his Walrus friend?

[@shadylapizo9245]

Wallace and Gromit was the biggest deal out of the entire franchise, well, others too lol. It's like they were reanimated frame after frame.