What If: World Without the US - Part 1 REACTION | DaVinci REACTS

[@TheUstasha101]

Devon DaVinci I think you are completely wrong on the ww2 part, first of all the UK was more or less bankrupt by 1941 - they were basically kept on life support by american LL (31.4 billion dollars of LL). New Britain could have tried a cross channel invasion but it would end in catastrophe (basically another Dunkirk).

[@avivirpanda]

Ok, there are 3 massive problems with your reaction. 1) the video may be badly worded, but it becomes clear that it means if the US stayed isolated. 2) you seem to believe that if someone doesn't do something, someone else would do it. That's way too optimistic and simplistic. 3) you seem to take it point by point even though they are connected. That like reading this and only arguing at every 3rd word. Some of the arguments later in the video rely on the fact that the earlier ones were already stated. Is the video too simplistic? Yes. Is it wrong? Not entirely, it does mention the Japanese constitution that the US put in place post WW2 which shouldn't exist if the US dosn't get involved. Overall I did enjoy the topic and think this is interesting to talk about.

[@KingAlton9403]

Exactly, I agree with you

[@theflamingeagle572]

You said what I was thinking

[@liamdancer8531]

Ah yes the blessed timeline

[@mysticalisha]

Also a would without the US would be a world without KZbin! 🥺😢

[@Shawkings]

I would not be so sure there properly would be something like it since Bilibili is used in Asian countries instead of KZbin it is ignorance to think that KZbin would be the only video service just because it has a monopoly like google since yahoo and Bing could have just as well been the main search engine if things went different.

[@mysticalisha]

@@Shawkings I have a question for you! When and Where did I say that KZbin would be the only video service? Yes I agree, it is ignorant to think that KZbin is the only video service, so where exactly did I say that it was? KZbin may not be the only video service, but it's a very popular service that was created in the US. So how exactly is it ignorant to think that "a world without the US would be a world without KZbin" when its completely true?

[@tommyhallum2054]

Well that 1 strike against the US.. jk

[@Skiltra]

i dont think if britain was taken they would just abandon the home and move to some other country as they have been on it for hundreds of years, guerilla warfare probably would happen or scotland and wales would be places where significant amount of soldiers hold.

[@k.v.7681]

It's kind of what happened in France. The Alps were a death trap for german soldiers. Asylum roads towards Switzerland for jews or stranded soldiers and escapist POWs stayed open in that area for a reason. And the countryside: the prefered term for french resistance members was "maquisard", from the corsican term "to take the maquis", an expression meaning "to seek refuge in the forest to avoid authorities". The Poles did the same. Belgian resistance in the Ardennes was the main hurdle for the traitors of the Walloon Legion. Spying, logistics, recon... all that relied on the resistance and civilian populations in each country for the military to be able to work. And credit where credit is due, because a lot of people tend to forget that part: there is a gigantic part of the end stages of the war that was influenced by german activists. People who knew how fucked Hitler was, and worke to the peril of their own lives to undermine the nazi war effort: sabotaging their own munition factories, spreading word, converting the people's army (there was a gigantic divide in German military forces).... Without those germans, the end stages would have been even worse than what they were already.

[@SkywalkerExpress]

the premise is not what if US doesnt exist but Didnt exist anymore (taken out of the equation) and if US influence disappear during the discussed time period.

[@KingAlton9403]

dude he's saying if the US still existed, but what if they were weaker and less influential.

[@k.v.7681]

That would mean Europe's powers retained, well, power. Pretty much an unfathomable course of events. It's also sort of hillarious how the video skips all the aid that the US sent to ..... Germany in the 20's and early 30's. Not to discuss the basis for the concept of Lebensraum: Manifest Destiny. A good chunk of Nazi Ideology came from an admiration for american segregation laws, immigration restrictions, and the "golden adventure" into the west. The relations between the two countries went downhill fast, but nobody knows the proportions of every stance and event in history in contrast to their impact. That's the issue with whataboutisms of all kinds from armchair historians. Usually with an agenda, either to prop up or to slam an entity (here, to prop up the USA).

[@Johnsavage1]

Hmm the points made in the Infographics video are interesting but they seem very pro American and unrealistic as a result.

[@avivirpanda]

The problem is that, objectively speaking, the US has done more than negative post isolationism. Has the US been more "aggressive" in recent years? Maybe, it's hard to say since if you look through history Post WW2, the US is very active in other countries.

[@leovaldez5419]

100 percent financed by us tax payers. Yeah that’s huge.

[@ihategoogleplus3790]

UK would still own what we now call the US so i think at some point there would only be, maybe 2 or 3 other country's in Europe as i think most would join together in case the UK or Russia wanted to go to war china would take "Korea" as there would not be a south Korea without the US and japan most other places.. like Philippines Taiwan etc..

[@cjrecio5702]

Can you watch the Spanish Civil War by History Matters, please?

[@Navybrat64]

The American mindset is different from the British. You seem to think that everything is just that cut and dried. The USA is home to all nations of the world. What makes you think it would have been that way if the British had taken over the new world. Also, there were other countries here like Spain and Russia trying to get their piece of the American pie, not to mention France, who owned a big portion of the Midwest. Your reaction is ignorant and ridiculous.

[@jerryjerryson3447]

I think it's oversimplified your talking about

[@cjrecio5702]

#davincireacts Can you watch the Spanish Civil War by History Matters, please?

[@jacobpalacios2041]

@devon DaVinci its so funny how much you hate the usa.😂😂i love my country 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@stevejuszczak9402]

Yes and we would have BBC 1 TO 4

[@stevejuszczak9402]

NO U S NO TRUMP

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

No euro no Hitler

[@stevejuszczak9402]

NO TARDIS. NO . NO WELL I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE

[@mysticalisha]

A word without the US: Apart from the wars, movies and music would suck. No offense to any other country, but Hollywood produced some of the best movies in my opinion. The birth of blues, jazz, country, rock, hip hop, rap, ect., wouldn’t have happened. 😩

[@bakthihapuarachchi3447]

Oh well we still have anime, Bollywood and Mongolian throat singing

[@jencheevers983]

@@mysticalisha in a lot of other parts of the world we are aware of european and asian cinema and Americans tend to be unaware or uninterested in it.also silent movies all originated in Europe.Americans just learned to capitalise on it which Europe don't tend to look on art that way or respect it and a lot of recent european and asian tv and film has been remade into American tv and film.Also country music came to the south from british and African immigrants and blues and jazz from African immigrants that moved to the south.It takes all types.

[@k.v.7681]

The fact that americans never open a book or watch a movie that wasn't made by them is inconsequential to the other 7 Billion people on the planet. And while I adore Blues, it's a result of slavery, not just the US. I'd gladly trade the nonexistence of one of the most vile acts of human history against blues... Edit: As for cinema... I'm french, and I'll have to face a sham public execution for this, but the best social movies are made by the brits and germans. The best musicals are Indian. Cinema essays are the core of french cinema. The best police thrillers are scandinavian. Korea has a rising cinema. Japan has an unequalled style. Nigerian cinema, while hillarious taken out of context, manages to connect to it's audience. The US... does great theme park movies. It had a golden age that doesn't exist anymore, and chances are that's not even the time you're reffering to if you find other film cultures around the world lacking.

[@mysticalisha]

@@k.v.7681 I’m not saying other countries haven’t produced great things in entertainment, but I stand by my statement. I’m not about to argue personally opinions, because at the end of the day neither one of us is wrong. Hollywood has produced great Superheroes movies, comedies, Drama, horror, action, ect.. that is a fact. And as for blues or black American music in general, we will not demonize it because it resulted from a dark history. It has changed the way music is around the world and that’s a fact. Which is why we honor, celebrate, and enjoy it.

[@k.v.7681]

@@mysticalisha " I’m not saying other countries haven’t produced great things in entertainment" You did. Saying those fields would suck without the US is pretty much what that means. And I'm not demonizing blues. I love blues. I'm saying it isn't a gift from the USA to the world as is your suggestion. It's a gift of black cultures tortured. By, among others, the US. It's like thanking the murder of milions on the battlefield of WWI for women's right to vote. Or if we want to keep it USA, thank the murderer of Amber Hangerman for the existance of Amber Alerts. See how fucked that is?