A few important notes: 1) Whilst the video explained 1-bit delta-sigma and PDM at a basic level, most available delta sigma DACs are actually 'multibit' delta sigma. Meaning rather than modulating to high speed 1-bit, they modulate to high speed 5-7 bit as this allows you to avoid the biggest challenges with making a highly linear R2R DAC and you also don't need to be operating as fast or have as much difficulty with the modulator design as a full 1-bit DAC. 2) DACs that ARE 1-bit usually don't actually have a 1-bit PDM converter. Instead they usually use a moving-average FIR filter approach, this will be explained further in a future video. 3) Some products on headphones.com such as open box units may not fall under the 365 day return policy, please check the product page for specifics!
@epicgamer4962 ай бұрын
im the most sigma tho
@LucaTheStar2 ай бұрын
4) Don't buy them from DCS /hj
@epicgamer4962 ай бұрын
@@LucaTheStar dcs is goated they doubled my debt for free
@lunafag2 ай бұрын
Strictly speaking DACs don't need oversampling. 16 bit signal -> 16 bit DAC -> reconstruction filter, no oversampling required. But when the DAC has less bits than the signal you need dithering to preserve the dynamic range, and when you need dithering it's a good idea to oversample to have less noise in the audible frequncies, even less with noise shaping.
@hartyewh12 ай бұрын
@GoldenSound Did you happen to spot a DM on Discord about the KA11? I wonder if you have different info then what I had come across.
@tomas_m2 ай бұрын
I'm a little worried that the cable joke won't be obvious enough to some people 😬
@or1on892 ай бұрын
I laughed my ass off at that ahahaha
@ezrabrownstein32372 ай бұрын
What joke?
@DonVintaggio2 ай бұрын
Snake oil reference for anyone coming from outside the "audiophile" world.
@defu85922 ай бұрын
@@or1on89 same lmao
@pinoylanggaming94492 ай бұрын
Need more in depths about the cable, I'm curious.
@krakentortoise75312 ай бұрын
I honestly would like a whole series of Golden just explaining stuff. He's a really great teacher and has a way to make every topic interesting
@ZReviews2 ай бұрын
We Are Learnding.
@exact32 ай бұрын
What a great video. I've been in this hobby for over 10 years and only NOW understand how a DAC works lol.
@publicpersona65172 ай бұрын
Came for the flappy bird analogy, stayed for the cable joke.
@cziperlan13742 ай бұрын
This was the most easy to understand explanation about the topic I've seen to date! Thanks Golden! Now I have something to send to my friends when they start questioning my sanity...
@ahmadfaizadnan2 ай бұрын
The best ELI5 I've heard so far. Will share to my office mate if they ask "What is that weird box on your desk?" for the fourth time.
@Lishtenbird2 ай бұрын
7:26 Never expected to see Haruhi on the Headphone Show, and yet here we are.
@brash_hown2 ай бұрын
How could i have missed that...
@YTHandlesWereAMistake2 ай бұрын
I wonder if that was Cameron's pic. If so, we also need a watch recommendations in addition to the listen ones in the podcast.
@nickpelayo31722 ай бұрын
Watch odd taxi and Dangers in my heart. Solid choices@@YTHandlesWereAMistake
@justino90422 ай бұрын
Classic golden teaching us of dacs and amps.
@Currawong2 ай бұрын
Peak audio KZbin: Sigma Delta DACs being described using Flappy Bird.
@juanblanco78982 ай бұрын
Such a great way to explain PDM in less than 10 seconds to a smooth brain like me.
@Currawong2 ай бұрын
@@juanblanco7898 Absolutely!
@mi.watari2 ай бұрын
Flappy bird analogy is just perfect
@razisn2 ай бұрын
and a very old one, for that matter.
@jeppemichaeljensen26842 ай бұрын
Waooo. Thanks. So great. I knew all of this, but it is the first time I have seen it described so good. Great job
@tharun729016 күн бұрын
This was an absolute treat to watch.
@migadepancito2 ай бұрын
Great video! Always love the goldensound knowledge drops
@Waitjayithought2 ай бұрын
10/10 video. Very clear and easy to follow
@g13n42 ай бұрын
Great video. BRB buying a $1000 cable for my fiio dac
@zoltantoth15662 ай бұрын
this is awesome: accurate, informative, concise
@muaddib_actual35112 ай бұрын
Vids like this are excellent as there is always someone new to the Hobby/Industry. The visuals really make it for me. I'm always having to refresh my memory as to why I want one over the other and the visuals really made it pop. Good Job!
@KmtS92 ай бұрын
Cameron strikes again! Thank you for this!! Looking forward to the next entry in this series.
@asdesdvfq222c2 ай бұрын
Extremely good explanations! I'll share this next time i have the opportunity to teach anyone about DACs
@celstark2 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanations Golden. You struck a great balance of simplicity and accuracy.
@Daniel_Borisov2 ай бұрын
Superb explanation! I understand this, but if I ever need to explain it to others, this is great!
@Meister-der-Prokrastination2 ай бұрын
Your timing is just perfect, i just started 2 days ago to get into Headphones and sidekicks and already stumpled upon the DAC and Amplifier Problem. I'm ready to learn more! Btw, my current Headphone of Choice for my next shopping tour is the Sennheiser HD600 or 650. Chosen by your very big Tier List video from 8 Months ago ;)
@bratosin1Ай бұрын
Get the 660s 2 , far superior than both
@smsaville2 ай бұрын
What a brilliant explainer - thanks GS! Looking forward to part 2. No pressure 😉😁
@davekelloway33372 ай бұрын
This video crushes for simplicity, communication, and entertainment. Way to go GoldenSound
2 ай бұрын
Actually brilliant description. Thank you! Science communications is clearly your forté.
@treehugger420Ай бұрын
Bro is a scientist
@fulvioliberatore6762 ай бұрын
Wonderful and very useful video!!
@Douglas_Blake_579Ай бұрын
Nice! Good to see a clear explanation .... although a bit fast paced.
@johto2 күн бұрын
you are just slow, i watched this at 2x speed LOL
@RadDad19762 ай бұрын
So relieved to know the $3k cable I got for my $100 headphones was the correct choice 🙏
@pfx22592 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff this
@zippymageeАй бұрын
Excellent Video!
@justuslm2 ай бұрын
3:15 I just want to point out that oversampling isn't strictly necessary to reconstruct the analog signal. So long as you have a precise low-pass filter at half the sample rate, the signal reproduction will be accurate. However, oversampling allows you to control how that cutoff happens much more precisely. I don't know exactly how common DACs that don't use any oversampling whatsoever are nowadays, but you'd find them for example in toys that include a sound module.
@GoldenSound2 ай бұрын
This is true, though the problem is it's not practically possible to make an analog filter that'd do this, hence why we typically do it digitally as we can make a very steep filter that way. With an analog filter you'd either need to attenuate content in the audible band too much or you'd leave too much above the Nyquist frequency.
@garfythecat2 ай бұрын
That was brilliant!
@AzDraon1Ай бұрын
This is really helpful!
@miker7182 ай бұрын
I need to watch this again after I haven't had a couple of beers! I'm more confused now than I was before I saw this.
@christopherviers83022 ай бұрын
Most excellent...!!! Great video and information...!!! Well done...!!!
@robertobuatti72262 ай бұрын
This video was very confusing as I failed at math and science when I was in high school in the 90's and have learning disabilities but I was interested in it, I just had to replay and rewind a lot to try to follow and understood it vaguely.
@freyahEVE2 ай бұрын
This was fun to watch. Thanks!
@EdgeDC2 ай бұрын
I presume/hope that the 3 “Biggest improvements per $ spent” list will be revisited in Part 2, with strikethough added to Cables, and replaced with Amplifier (possibly moved to #2, with Headphones #1). Loved the joke though, for those of us who saw it for the joke it was! 😆
@nemolovesy0u2 ай бұрын
Wonderful video
@mateusbernardi71642 ай бұрын
What a great and well explaind video.
@Ntt56562 ай бұрын
amazing explanation, thank you
@939Productions2 ай бұрын
Explaining PWM with flappy bird is freaking genius! hahahaha
@___joez2 ай бұрын
RME ADI series is 🐐
@donaldwolffАй бұрын
Truly Great explanations, and you made me laugh 3 different times.. Great video !
@TekZulu2 ай бұрын
This is a nitpick but I think Jetpack Joyride is a better representation of ΔΣ than Flappy Bird because Flappy Bird doesn't continue to go up when you feed it a continuous input and Jetpack Joyride is also very well known, albeit not quite as famous as Flappy Bird might be.
@MrDonpipkin2 ай бұрын
well done! fun and educational - tough to do.
@kylesisk7348Ай бұрын
Thank you
@onchuner2 ай бұрын
Thanks it's a good one especially cable What do you actually think about rme dac and amp?
@esperla1232 ай бұрын
Great video
@gixi4302 ай бұрын
Hey brother!Can you help me with a question since you know far more than me?I prioritize ANC and comfort and I have these options;(edifier WH950NB, sony wh750b, 1more sonoflow, anker soundcore q30 and space one)what option is better?you can sugest something else if you know 😊
@MarciusSim2 ай бұрын
Can I request for a part 2 video on DAC filters please?
@holdincourt2 ай бұрын
Love the flappy bird analogy!
@GadZookz2 ай бұрын
That flappy bird game was great! 👍🏼
@carminedesanto67462 ай бұрын
Fantastic,thank you 👍👍
@hartyewh12 ай бұрын
Spent most of yesterday comparing a Denafrips Ares II to a Topping E50. I was expecting to hear no meaningful difference or hopefully some presentation difference in the Ares. Before volume matching I heard all kinds of magic in the soundstage and imaging. Just like the reviews had said. By ear I was off by 1,5dB (on the Topping L70 volume scale). After matching things changed. No difference whatsoever in either, the bass was notably weaker or rounder on the Ares and the highs were easier, maybe smoother. I measured it and there is a treble roll-off. Around -1dB@7kHz, -2dB@9kHz and -5dB@15kHz. I EQ'd the same for the Topping and the effect was the same. In conclusion, I'd take an E50 (or E30, same thing really) over the Ares. Should have tested an Apple dongle as well which was about the same as the E50.
@7in12 ай бұрын
Are you claiming that Denafrips DAC is having such huge FR problems that even you could measure them? It's hard to believe to be true
@maximgodunov77172 ай бұрын
Hi. Apart from the tonality difference and dynamics, you will most likely not find any difference in dacs using easy to drive headphones or especially iems. You will need a speaker system to notice it, or something like a susvara. That's why most dac reviews compare them using speakers. Watch jays iyagi video where he tested 100 dacs. Also, you need to test much more dacs for more experience to know what to listen to and where you need to pay attention.
@hartyewh12 ай бұрын
@@maximgodunov7717 I've tested dozens and from the Apple dongle to Jotunheim there was really nothing worth of note when proper volume matching was done. In power amplifiers there are massive differences with the integrated DACs I've noticed, but I doubt adding room issues and degrading the signal helps with hearing the differences. Perhaps power amps strenghten the coloration or something. I also used an HE1000se which should be essentially as revealing as anything. The bass issues and treble roll-off are still notable problems.
@hartyewh12 ай бұрын
@@7in1 Depends if one considers them a problem or desired coloration. Imo it's a massive issue. Volume matched single seating measurement from a headphone showed that and it matches my perception so I can't think of another explanation.
@maximgodunov77172 ай бұрын
@@hartyewh1 I'm talking about standalone dacs used with speakers. They are way more revealing compared to headphones because they have low impedance and sensitivity. Can't head a difference in soundstage if they is no soundstage to begin with. This is how most dacs are tested by reviewers- take a look at Jay's Iyagi 100 dac video
@joeljose942814 күн бұрын
Can I use audio interface as a dac ?? And connect it to an amp and call it a stack ???😅?
@razen062 ай бұрын
love this video
@BrettGlass15 күн бұрын
I think I missed something...Why run the signal from a poor DAC to another DAC? Or do you somehow bypass the original some how???
@LucaTheStar2 ай бұрын
1:40 Based Pixelzwithaz reference ❤
@okay19042 ай бұрын
Excellent
@7in12 ай бұрын
What DAC (r2r or delta sigma) is producing more true digital signal from original analog, and why?
@MrSmitheroons2 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear, I mortgaged my house for cables. (I have no money left for headphones, speakers, DACs, or even a source, but I think I'm getting the most bang for buck, so I'm happy with my purchase decisions. If I stare hard enough at the cables I hear something that sounds incredibly accurate and also enter a trance state that I assume is essentially achieving nirvana. 10/10 would go bankrupt again.) P.S. I imagine you can send a DC, full-voltage, strictly on/off signal to a speaker but that it won't necessarily sound good, unless you like square waves and/or what I'm boldly going to call "rectangle waves". Or maybe the sound of your transducer committing sudoku.
@audiorick8412 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@Nearest_Neighbor2 ай бұрын
SMW2 ❤️
@bratosin1Ай бұрын
So if i take the audio from my monitor (xbox series x source) via 3.5mm to Y 2x Rca connectors into the topping e70 Dac , the monitor has already a Dac built in , so my dac reconverts the signals another time ? Hmm , I'm very confused , how it works
@Rob-Davidson2 ай бұрын
Drivers are smooth-brained. That's why I get along with them so well. 😌
@FiaDess2 ай бұрын
great vid!! will we cover up the why is the cables also have its own price?? 👀 "i MeAN theY aRE JuSt cabLeS" im looking forward for it, cheers.
@kingstoler2 ай бұрын
Worth upgrading from Topping D90 to Dcs Lina??
@rap-soldier21852 ай бұрын
GOOD ONE /< DCS SUCKS 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩 ✅️🔥🚦💥💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@rap-soldier21852 ай бұрын
Good one DCS IS 💩💩💩💩💩💩
@theb4r138Ай бұрын
And cables lol good one
@7in12 ай бұрын
Why R2R is praised more than Delta Sigma, if both are nicely doing same job but different style, isn't there should be the same sound?
@Avruthlelbh2 ай бұрын
So in short: Some DACs are actually DADs: Digital to (another type of) Digital converter. Thanks delta sigma.
@z-f7722 ай бұрын
First they're showing 10bits (2:26) while talking about 16 bits, then (3:00) 16 bits are represented as 7 bits + 9 bits shown under those 7 bits... come on. 3:07 now we see 16 bits divided into two bytes just to confuse you a little bit more, I'm exited for the second half of this video.
@TimothyAnderson-l4qАй бұрын
Howell Fall
@JensHoveАй бұрын
That RME is yummy.
@defu85922 ай бұрын
wow.... i understood... im scared...
@BobThera-c3dАй бұрын
Medhurst Forest
@thinkIndependent20242 ай бұрын
The speed that a motor turns is also a Sample Rate Unfortunately this point has been misstated
@syanhc2 ай бұрын
I'm this video, it sounded like GoldenSound was speaking from within the physical body of DMS.
@ZephaniahJacob-x7u21 күн бұрын
Florine Well
@edenight8932 ай бұрын
And cables ... Joke, it's a joke, now you calm down ! Put the speaker stand down !
@ancientalien8152 ай бұрын
Why doesn't this have theatrical music playing in the background?
@MargaretHelms-s1uАй бұрын
Boehm Trafficway
@055_donisaputra62 ай бұрын
So.... microphone is an anti-speaker?
@migadepancito2 ай бұрын
Yes!
@lunafag2 ай бұрын
Mics and speakers are actually exactly the same. You can use a speaker as a microphone.
@lunafag2 ай бұрын
Actually speakers and mics are exactly the same. You can use a speaker as a mic and vice versa, it just won't be good.
@lunafag2 ай бұрын
Actually speakers and mics are exactly the same. You can use a speaker as a mic and vice versa, it just won't be good.
@d0nj03Ай бұрын
You can actually use one plugged in as a speaker and if you manage to not burn it out you will actually hear sound reproduction out of it. Same if you plug a speaker or headphone driver into a mic port and speak into it - sound will be registered, even if only at very bad quality.