Isaiah 9:6 does not refer to Jesus as being Father as in GOD the Father. If so Jesus being born under the Law Galatians 4:4 proclaimed two Gods John 20:17 if he himself is the Father. If Jesus is the Father then his testimony is not TRUE John 8:14-18 they are two distinct Witnesses which is "Under Jewish Law". When Jesus says you have seen me you have seen the Father Jesus claim is that the Father is ONLY MONOU THEO GOD John 5:44-45 John 17:3 and that they should know GOD & Jesus Christ whom he has sent apply 1 John 4:12 no one has ever seen God. Modalism/Oneness is a CULT that has driven a stake between seekers of God with their false doctrine of speaking in tongues. You claim Jesus ONLY since we now have Acts 5:3-5 that the Holy Spirit is Defined as God I ask you since Jesus ONLY is your Theology in John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. Who is it telling God that he cannot Speak on his own? Since your belief is that there is not distinction between Father Son and the Holy Spirit. Isaiah 42 wipes the slate clean in the distinction of Father and Son. By far the Oneness Pentecostals has done more damage to the Christian Faith than any other Hersey. Starting from William Seymour and Azusa Street. 1 Corinthians 12:13 baptized into ONE SPIRIT and ONE BODY. The CULT uses the word INITIAL EVIDENCE which is NOWHERE to be FOUND IN SCRIPTURES show me where it states "INITIAL EVIDENCE" the word INITIAL is not present the Sign of Baptism is not speaking in Tongues but the confession of Jesus Christ as Lord repentance from sin and obedience to God Romans 8:1-7 1 John 4:12-16 Ephesians 1:13-15 the Evidence of the Spirit is Love Joy Peace etc. Righteousness is the Sign NOT TONGUES. Galatians 5:22-23. Not all who believe speak in Tongues 1 Corinthians 10:13 (we ALL MAKE UP THE BODY OF CHRIST) therefore the eye is not for walking but Oneness the CULT makes others feel bad for not speaking in tongues while forcing human being to fake a delusion as if one is speaking in tongues. (This is by Pressure not by Love) Matthew 16:16-18 Jesus tells Peter who do you say I am Peter replies you are the son of God. Jesus says blessed are you Peter for not Flesh and Blood has revealed this to you but MY FATHER whom is in HEAVEN. Jesus Christ was both Flesh and Blood. Acts 2:38 most Oneness Pentecostals do not even know what epi in the Greek stands for and yet do not even consider Exodus 3:14 and Revelation 3:12 (Read Revelation 3:12) and see whom is the Speaker. The use of Isaiah 9:6 demonstrates the lack of understanding from the ONENESS Pentecostals - To Even Remotely suggest that Isaiah 9:6 has any relevance to HO THEOS assures your lack of understand see John 16:28 I came from exēlthon the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.”(A) It is absolutely abhorrent and false along with the cult practices of The Oneness Pentecostal. Do you know how many people have actually felt inferior because they have not spoken in tongues and actually have given up their faith because they actually feel they are not good enough or there is something wrong with them because the HOLY SPIRIT is the one who gives Gifts therefore they did not speak in Tongues so they must conclude that it is them that lacks FAITH because they did not speak in Tongues? God will absolutely ABOLISH this False Religion and this Cult. Good Luck with your Legalistic Cult Practices Steve Waldron when BEN OF DAVID comes and absolutely destroys the Cult and this Theology it will be a wonderful day for all people. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWqooWONfaamf7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIe0d5t9eZ6NpJY
@gleasonparker16843 жыл бұрын
@@bookslearning3353 amen brother.
@justinhowell88739 ай бұрын
I found this video very enlightening AND so close to my own heart. I was raised Trinitarian Pentecostalism most of my early life. Around the age of 10/11 my Parents joined a “Oneness Pentecostal “ church in rural Summerville, Georgia. This parish was closely allied with the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit in Atlanta, Georgia headed by ARCHBISHOP Earl Paulk. Bishop David Huskins was our intermediate in Cedartown, Georgia. Oddly enough, I became Roman Catholic in 1995 and remained a Catholic in principle until about a year ago. That large Oneness Cathedral in Atlanta changed its name to Spirit and Truth Sanctuary about 5 years ago and is now the largest “Beloved Community “ congregations in the Southeast. They are closely aligned with All Souls Unitarian Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma of which I am now a member. Small world…..small decisions, different world views. I don’t hate my past…. I include it into my future.
@OrthodoxJourney3597 жыл бұрын
You explained it better than all the articles I've been reading, thank you.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa7 жыл бұрын
No problem my friend.
@EricB2947 жыл бұрын
If I haven’t spoken in tongues (Baptized by the Holy Ghost) or Baptized in Jesus name would you say I’m lost? I confessed my sins and asked God to forgive me and confessed Jesus as Lord and Saviour in a UPC church my wife and her family had attended for years. I attended this church while reading the Bible for the first time in my life. I was comfortable there until I got to Romans 8:9. When I read this verse I was stopped dead in my tracks and just kept reading this over and over and over. I was saved in my mind without a doubt but this verse states that if you don’t have the Spirit of Christ you do not belong to him. The Pastor would preach all the time about being Baptized by the Spirit with speaking in tongues and preached that if you haven’t spoken in tongues you haven’t been Baptized by the Spirit. According to his teaching I can’t be saved!! I’ve never spoken in tongues and was Baptized in the Matthew 28:19 formula. Would you consider me to be lost?
@gustapurba25354 жыл бұрын
@Tom Bladecki Please support your statement that 'genesis' or 'γένεσις' (a Koine Greek word) is the same as 'beginning' in English. I have my reference here that 'genesis' or 'γένεσις' is the same as birth, nativity, Mt. 1:18; Lk. 1:14; Jas. 1:23; successive generation, descent, lineage, Mt. 1:1 www.billmounce.com/greek-dictionary/genesis
@Eric07784 жыл бұрын
Pastor, you are absolutely correct on this one. Thumbs up!
@Tiangelo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Do you have any resources explaining “Let is make man in our image”? I’ve been trying to understand this but get so confused.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a couple of videos on the channel on it.
@collincovid69503 жыл бұрын
Moral image, not physical image. Man was created in both the moral and ethical image of God, of what God stands for
@peytonallen11352 жыл бұрын
Angels were there when God made everything
@robertnieten98446 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, Pastor.I wish that between we, who are Oneness Apostolic, and the trinitarian believers could come to agee on a fundamental formula for someone to be born again.I was water baptized in the trinitarian formula, was baptized in the Spirit, and rebaptized in Jesus name, all within the same week.I can't say that i wasn't a child of God before i was baptized in His name.I do think that, the scriptures teach me that there are dire consequences for not obeying Him, the way He says for us to do something.Lastly, it amazes me that trinitarian pentecostals baptized by the Holy Spirit don't have a clear revelation as to who Jesus is.
@collincovid69503 жыл бұрын
Formulars are not salvation. Salvation is an act of God in a moment in time. Those who drift, which is hard to accept, into oness pentecostalism, and are left here are not of the Lord, are no true children of God
@americodiloretto2175 жыл бұрын
1 John 5:7 and John 8:24 (KJV) is very clear and if you don't believe that the you shall die in your sins.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa5 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@alexmarker8813 жыл бұрын
John 8,16
@troyking90037 жыл бұрын
been studying this and I have had trinitarian people tell me the same thing you just said...and I now attend a non-denominational church that call's it's self trinitarian but they describe oneness perfectly...do you think it matters, as long as we know Jesus is the only way?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa7 жыл бұрын
The key is correct doctrine, not labels. However it could be a stumbling block.
@collincovid69503 жыл бұрын
You cannot know Jesus Christ unless you are born again, and being born again the Spirit of God is with you teaching you that Trinitarianism is correct. Then we have history that tells us that this so called new teaching, from where? is the old heresy of bye gone times
@peytonallen11352 жыл бұрын
@@collincovid6950 History shows that Jesus was the 1 Spirit of God incarnate. the trinity came into existence in 325 AD by a human(that’s 292 years after Jesus’ ascension). Were people saved before the trinity developed?
@EricB2947 жыл бұрын
My questions were intended for the pastor but I accidentally replied to another poster. I’d prefer the pastor answer my question if he has the time. Thanks.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa7 жыл бұрын
Hi friend! Confess Jesus Christ as The Lord, and ask Him for the Holy Ghost, and you will receive! You will speak in tongues, yes. But focus on Jesus not tongues. Tongues are the by product and sign of the life changing infilling of God’s Spirit. I have found when people focus on tongues instead of on Jesus, so often the simple New Birth process gets gummed up as it were.
@ewankerr30114 жыл бұрын
I like Pastor Steve. He seems a nice guy. He calls it as he sees it. I just disagree. I think if you read the Biblical texts without preconceived ideas, you clearly understand that the Evangelists are claiming that Jesus was the promised Messiah (Christ ) the Son of God.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa4 жыл бұрын
I do to.
@dragonballz24103 жыл бұрын
Would a oneness Pentecostal be also considered a modalist?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the definition one uses of modalism. Much to discuss there.
@holyspiritstreets27643 жыл бұрын
yes, oneness is modalism but there is also Godhead believers and trinity believers . oneness /modalism denies the reality of such seperate persons clearly seen in scripture, trinity is kinda pagan but not really , Godhead is kinda Pagan but not really, God head believe that God is using departments for the moment and later coming back as one. But the Trinity kinda believes that too in a different way i wouldnt lean one ness. i lean between trinity & Godhead
@dragonballz24103 жыл бұрын
@@holyspiritstreets2764 Divinity of God is is simple yet complex.
@owenhas90294 жыл бұрын
If God is all by himself...I'm still waiting for a Oneness believer to explain Hebrews 1:8-9?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa4 жыл бұрын
I thought I had. I’ll try to get to work on that.
@studywithmefolks58094 жыл бұрын
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa also, if we are explaining things from Hebrews, which I would like to know the video like to where you answered the above question, in Hebrews 1:2, it says that "God who at sundry times and diversemanners.spake in time past to the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by His son..." I have two questions you may be able to answer: 1. Isn't his son, just himself? I am still not getting how Jesus is the Father when so much speaks different to that. 2. What about the prophet Agabus, mentioned in Acts, where he makes two different prophecies? Isn't that a prophet speaking for God? Anyway, hope for a reply. Never expect any, however. People don't seem to like my questions. I normally either get ignored, or the person gets on me and attacks me. Which I always find is weird, considering they are supposed to be helping by spreading the gospel. And some just discount me as not having the spirit to be able to understand, and I need to pray (to be able to get their point of view, which is always correct) which is a big cop-out, in my eyes, and very easy to use as a way to not have a true answer. I am seriously trying to understand the word and the differences that so many people teach. God bless....
@TheDenmarkProduction5 жыл бұрын
How is it that The Father is the only one who knows when Jesus will return... not even Jesus knows when He Himself will return... How is this possible if they are the same person?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa5 жыл бұрын
Father = Spirit Son = Incarnation
@TheDenmarkProduction5 жыл бұрын
New Life Of Albany Ga. but wouldn’t oneness doctrine also imply “Jesus = Father?”
@adysaxman775 жыл бұрын
@@TheDenmarkProduction Jesus came in the flesh as a man, and it is impossible for God to lie. Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. When Jesus was resurrected and glorified, he was recognised and confessed as God even by the disciple that doubted Him, (John 20:28) Jesus knows the time of His return in the Revelation given to John. Revelation 3:3 1 Thessalonians 5:4-5.
@TheDenmarkProduction5 жыл бұрын
@@adysaxman77 He is seated at the right hand of the Father. He is not sitting at the right hand of Himself. Oneness is ludicrously unbiblical and very new age cosmic christ doctrine.
@MessyLittleFoodie4 жыл бұрын
TheDenmarkProduction I’ve tried to debate someone on another video and they refused to read through my comments. Very difficult to get through to them, if they won’t even examine my counter arguments and scripture I presented .... pure exasperation
@peytonallen11352 жыл бұрын
3:35 I’m oneness, but Jesus is no longer human. So how can He turn the Kingdom to the Father as a human if Jesus is no longer human?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa2 жыл бұрын
He has a glorified body. He was raised physically from the dead.
@colonyofcells7 жыл бұрын
In mahayana buddhism, there are many avatars of buddha and the future avatar of buddha is Maitreya. There have been many people who have claimed to be Maitreya just as many people have claimed to be the Messiah or prophets from the gods. In hindu religion and in Bahai faith, god also has many avatars that appear from time to time. It is also possible to view the christian father god, Jesus and the holy spirit as avatars of 1 god. In most religions, avatars are sequential (do not appear at the same time so they appear one after the other) rather than multiple avatars appearing at the same time.
@collincovid69503 жыл бұрын
Heresy. We now have a new heretical body created to attack God, replace God with another. Our God is Trinitarian and what is more I knew this when first born again, nothing doubting, even before I began to read the scriptures
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa3 жыл бұрын
From culture probably. You can’t find the word trinity in Scripture or history until well past 150 ad. God bless you!
@collincovid69503 жыл бұрын
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa That old Chesnut. You find it in a dictionary which supplies the wording to define three persons of the God head as one
@billyprotector33747 жыл бұрын
I know languages change from nations to nation but names do not they TRANSLITERAT but how exactly did the apostle's do Baptism what name did they use? I know they were Hebrew and there's not A "J" later in Hebrew. And scriptures are clear there's only one name you can be saved by in the English version Jesus does that mean the same thing as the Hebrew Yahushua.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa7 жыл бұрын
I’ve done a video on that.
@dennisdabney4934 жыл бұрын
Not sure what those other videos you mentioned cover but needless to say they cannot refute the Words of Christ. I believe yea rather I know He knows His own existence when the Spirit testified saying, "these things said Esaias, when he saw His glory, and spake of Him John 12:41". From Genesis to the maps from the Seed to Pantocrator. Both Isaiah and Moses weren't meeting Him for the first time on the Mount. For heaven sake they stood before their creator and judge. The Scriptures are clear. He was God manifest in the flesh. I am apostolic and there's nothing here scholarly to see. The clear rendering of the whole canon submits to us The Father, The Word and the Holy Ghost. Why do we accept, 'And God said", prior to the Second Law and not all that He'said beyond the Second Law. He also spoke concerning Himself four books prior to Deuteronomy. Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7. No one disputes His words on the right side of Let Us of these verses, only Us. These are His Holy Words, His revelation, not man's.
@chuckguy30575 жыл бұрын
So if the Son and the Father are the same person then why would the Son be seated at the Father's right hand in heaven? Who was Jesus praying to in John 17 when He refers to the Father?
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa5 жыл бұрын
I’ve done vids on right hand and why Jesus prayed.
@americodiloretto2175 жыл бұрын
Oneness Pentecostal are a cult and they will die their sins. 1 John 5:7 and John 8:24 (King James Version) is very clear.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa5 жыл бұрын
Cult? What a nasty perjorative term.
@americodiloretto2175 жыл бұрын
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Revelation 5:1-7 (KJV) Genesis 1:26 (KJV) And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Amen
@americodiloretto2175 жыл бұрын
God the Father calling Jesus God. Hebrews 1:8 (KJV) But unto the Son he saith, Thy Throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Amen Blessed Trinity
@redeemed78684 жыл бұрын
I'm an ex-catholic, of 28 years. To top it of I'm irish 😄 I put my trust in God and his word word. I don't fellow any domination. But have faithful brothers and sisters in the lord that I met on the streets while sharing the gospel. I love evangelism,. I have prayed for healing with faith and see people recover. I have cast out demons in jesus name. And I pray in tongues. Please believe the bible. Ask God for the holy spirit if you don't have him. Trust God in all things. I have seen many miracles. The bible is true
@Makeitmakesensejo4 жыл бұрын
Jesus was with the Father in the beginning the holy spirit is the spirit of God the Father Christ has the same Spirit John 4: 24 God is Spirit. You are right 3 gods is polytheism.
@infinityApologeticsClips4 жыл бұрын
Heresey is what it is. Read Isaiah 48:16 please. The Father did not become flesh. The word of God who is Jesus became flesh
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa4 жыл бұрын
John 14:9-11, Isaiah 9:6 are among many irrefutable Scriptures that show you are wrong.
@infinityApologeticsClips4 жыл бұрын
New Life Of Albany Ga. nowhere in Isaiah 9:6 does it says that the messiah is God the father. It’s like saying that because Abraham is called the father of the Jews that means he is God the father. That is absurd. Read Psalm 110:1. How can the messiah sit at the right hand of God? Also Philippians 2:11 explicitly says that every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the father. Another distinction yet they are both deity. Genesis 19:24 shows two divine person. Isaiah 44:6 shows two divine persons. Isaiah 48:16 shows 3 divine persons. John 1:1 shows 2 divine persons. Jesus is the Word of God. John 1:14 days the WORD became flesh. The father didn’t become flesh. Also at the baptism of Jesus the father was clearly speaking and was distinct from Jesus and the spirit who descended like a dove. Theres distinctions within the Godhead. You are wrong to say the Father became flesh. Revelation 5:13 shows the distinction between the father and the lamb who is Jesus. Daniel 7:9-14 shows the distinction between the Ancient of days and the son of man. This oneness doctrine is heresey. I would expect more from you I see you are an intelligent man who cares about God unlike the wicked oneness “pastor” Gino Jennings
@OMEGATROPOLIS4 жыл бұрын
Riaz Qureshi How much of God was in Jesus? 1/3? 1/3 of the Father is God? And 1/3 of the Holy Spirit is God? If I say the Jesus was God and the Father was God then two Gods exist. Was the Word a part of God that became flesh to you? That God sent a part of him in Jesus? So the Word is 1/3 God? These are questions I am honestly asking as I did not know that the Catholic Church introduced trinity doctrine and later would spill over to the Protestant reformation as well. The question is why would they make sure people come to the trinity as Jesus not being the Father. However a child can use bible verses to confuse the most knowledgeable scholar about how the trinity can be confusing. The catch is the difference of Jesus or Jesus the Christ? There is not antiJesus there is the antiChrist. Does the trinity help take the Diety away from Jesus Christ? Can it be that if you remove the Father out of Jesus Christ then He would be just Jesus. The idea of the Christ was that man and God could coexist fully into one being. By saying the Father is not the son you are correct but by saying the Father is not in the Son and the Son not in the Father is incorrect.
@infinityApologeticsClips4 жыл бұрын
Ricky Rogers Col 2:9 the fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus. Secondly read Psalm 110:1 how can The father say to the Son to sit at his right hand if they are the same person?! They are distinct in person but not essence. Oneness is damnable heresy
@OMEGATROPOLIS4 жыл бұрын
I am saying that Jesus Christ is God alone made up of the Father and the Son. Now go and read the Gospels again. I give full authority and Power to Jesus Christ alone anything otherwise can be seen as the AntiChrist... (the idea to slowly take away the diety of Jesus Christ through trinity doctrine induced by The Church) The Church (early Catholic Church) had their hand in everything. Michael Servatus was condemned by the Catholics and Protestants and burned at the stake for saying he did not believe in the trinity. Perhaps denying the trinity will get you labeled a heretic in Christendom. Well I’d rather be a heretic to the Church than be a liar to my own conscience!
@riacrdogarcia29316 жыл бұрын
he is speaking in tongues
@Exodus--bx3dd3 жыл бұрын
The trinity 3 are one is not how God shows himself. Its is how we define God. Not how God presents the Godhead. Look at Gen 1:26-27.. the image of God is both Adam and Eve. How God made man , male and female also presents the order of the Godhead. Adam 1st, then from out of Adam came Woman.. out of man. This depicts the relationship God has with the Son. God is 1st, then God produced out of himself the mirror image of himself, the stamp , the die , from whom all creation would be moulded to and he said, " You are my Son, this day I have begotten you." This is the eternal life that was with and in the Father and was manifest to mankind in the person of Jesus of Nazareth. He abides in the Father from everlasting but was kept hidden, even from the Angels. Then before the world was made God brought him forth , presented his heir, firstborn, the beginning, the chief the head the first of all Gods ways from everlating before the Angels were created. They two are one Spirit. So God made Adam and Woman from one flesh and bone.. they two are man. Just as the Father and the Son are Gods ( Hebrew Elohim plural) one Spirit. Then Adam called the woman , out of man , Eve for she , is the mother of all living. So the Word came forth of God, and God named him Son, for from him came forth all creation. Jesus proclaimed the God head , "The Father and I are One" this is 3 The oneness of the Father and the Son is the Holy Spirit. And he is also himself. So really the trinity would be ascribed to the Holy Spirit. Again John said "Whosever denies the Father and the Son is Antichrist" John did not include the Holy Spirit. Yet acknowledges the unction of the Holy one.. this refers to the anointing poured upon the Priests by the High Priest of our faith Jesus Christ.
@gleasonparker16843 жыл бұрын
Why not believe THAT father is God and Jesus is his son? John 17.3. 1 cor 8.6. One God the father AND one lord Jesus Christ. The "AND" in English demands 2 ... it would have to be "OR" for them to be the same. So oneness does despite to the English language I think. It must make sense since God is NOT the author of confusion. Oneness is confusing so is trinity. Modalism is dead with Sabellius. The bible IS quick and alive. If the bible says it, I believe it and THAT settles it.
@Post-Trib11 ай бұрын
Jesus is the manifestation and personification of God the Father in human form. God the Father became his own Son
@josephjones42076 жыл бұрын
I recognize you will say that the Son is God but if so, why are you saying that the Son is the humanity of Christ
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa6 жыл бұрын
Luke 1:35
@josephjones42076 жыл бұрын
Ok
@josephjones42076 жыл бұрын
New Life Of Albany Ga. why can’t the Son be eternally begotten by the Father
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa6 жыл бұрын
Contradiction of terms. Begot indicates a beginning. Eternal means no beginning.
@josephjones42076 жыл бұрын
New Life Of Albany Ga. it’s an incomprehensible mystery
@jontarayan19106 жыл бұрын
God is one with no distiction of persons
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa6 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@alaialai41135 жыл бұрын
Have you even opened your Bible?..you lost..
@pedrorodriguez230-e2u5 жыл бұрын
THE FACT THAT THE EXALTED CHRIST HAS A GOD IN HEAVEN INDICATES THAT HE IS NOT IQUAL TO THE FATHER AS THE ALMIGHTY. APOCALYPSE 3: 12 1) Everyone who has a God is because that God is more powerful than themselves. 2) Everyone who has a God is because is worshiping that God. How is Christ going to be the only God and will have a God to worship? John 20:17 (note that here he is in the flesh as a limited human but in the following text it is already stated at the most in heavenly glory ) In Revelation 3: 12, Christ says the same name four times, there is no text in the Bible to remember the word God appears 4 times in the same verse. Note also that Revelation 3: 12 tells us that he receives a new name. What new name can Almighty God receive? What can be new for God? Revelation 2: 17. The Father is the God of Christ, but the Father has no God, so He has no superior, the Father is the only Highest. The only way the Father is the God of Christ in heaven is if Christ is inferior to the Father and is different from the Father.
@adysaxman775 жыл бұрын
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
@adysaxman775 жыл бұрын
Pastor Rodriguez... John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip (Pastor Rodriguez)? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? When Jesus returns, will you be looking over Jesus's shoulder, so as to see the Father, thereby making the same mistake as Philip the disciple, or will you by that time, come to the truth of what Jesus said to the disciple Philip?
@dennisdabney4934 жыл бұрын
When the Son of God prayed as the Son of Man, how can that be interpreted as (humanity) flesh talking to the Father? The Lord Jesus Christ is the Second Man of course, who happens to be The Lord "from" glory (Before The Word was made flesh). John 7: 29 Christ said, I know Him, for I am "from" Him, and He hath sent Me. Christ Jesus is the last Adam, a Spirit giving life. He also said, I am the resurrection and the life. He went on to say, I am in the The Father as the Father is in Me. He was More than the Son of Man He was God manifested in the flesh. For it is written, And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the gentiles , believed on in the world, received up into "glory". He is the Lord from glory, The Word Who was in the beginning, Who was with God, Who is God, the "Same" was in the beginning with God. Listen beloved, the Father said this My beloved Son. The Father claimed Him as His Son. Satan identified Him and tempted Him as The Son of God. The demons recognized Him with eternal judgement in mind I might add. Moses and Elijah appeared after His transfiguration talked with Him and the voice out of the cloud saying, This is My beloved Son; hear Him. They are One and they are "Us". Oneness view violates the clear teaching from Genesis to the maps in this connection which sets forth the "Usness" God in concert with One Jehovah. Brother, you say it doesn't require Two Persons, I submit unto you, it does requires the Father and the Son. The Father cannot be the Son, why, because the Scriptures hath distinguished Him to be the Father. The Son cannot be the Father because inspiration has declared Him to be the Son.
@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa4 жыл бұрын
I would agree with much of what you said. I flesh this out further in other videos. Just remember, if your a trinitarian, that official trinitarianism doesn’t look at the prayers of Jesus as a trinitarian proof in most cases.
@dennisdabney4934 жыл бұрын
Thank you. What are the names of those videos? I am apostolic not Oneness but if I must be labeled, tag me with "One" with Genesis in view as the initial illumination regarding Elohim before subsequent inspiration is given Deuteronomy. Lord willing, I'll review the content set forth in the other videos once I have the names. Again, thank you.
@scottdeeter12804 жыл бұрын
The bible says "great is the mystery of Godliness" therefore many debate. Jesus the "man" was also God because he was a pure representation of the word, and the Holy Ghost. He lived without sin and never rebuked Thomas for calling him both Lord and God. He even went on to explain that his faith was confirmed by what he saw, and stated that it took greater faith for those who believe without that visual confirmation. Jesus identified God as many things but he never identified himself as part of a trinity. As a matter of fact he spoke he declares himself as the Alpha and Omega in revelations. This was a title that God held for himself. In the old testament God spoke of himself as a singular being and declared himself as the saviour even back then. The greatest commandment Deuteronomy 6:4 ....Hear O Isreal the Lord our God is One Lord! It is reinforced in Ephesians 4:5,6 which even includes baptism. I was brought up in a religious home and saw many things that did not fit. Oneness, baptism in Jesus's name fit very well. John chapter 3 says That unless a man is "born again" of the water and the spirit.....that he can't SEE the kingdom of God.........in old testament it spoke of having eyes to see......and they see not. That is a reference towards being unable to understand. The new testament speaks of the "renewing of our mind" and says we are to "put on the mind of Christ".......he didn't teach us of a trinity.....why should we believe in one.
@dennisdabney4934 жыл бұрын
The mystery was explained in the *said* text you began to quote, just keep reading. Listen, we cannot omit the initial revelation found in Genesis chapters 1, 3, 11 and we cannot go "elsewhere" to properly exegete those absolutely clear passages to support a held belief. Calvinist, liberals and all the of the strange doctrines which have come in from the side door do the same. They back-read into the Sacred text, that is going forward to certain verses and then come back, in inject content. Moses had no problem with Genesis 1,3,11 and the Second Law reference 6:4 There are 4 books to the left of Deuteronomy. "One" LORD taught by the Holy Scriptures, divinely set forth in the Seed Plot book must not be "ignored" in haste to establish doctrines of men. Deuteronomy 6 hermeneutically, cannot be interpreted apart from previous illumination and subsequent revelation. In other words from Genesis to Revelation allowing all of the text given to set forth our Great God before us. He's spoke for Himself! Personally, I do not believe the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ had the time nor the desire to spend on such a subject when God has said, Let Us. No matter how you approach this, Elohim spoke and said Let Us make man in Our Image before we were around to raise the question. This isn't about One because that's clear in Holy Writ, no this is about oneness. There's a theological difference.
@scottdeeter12804 жыл бұрын
@@dennisdabney493 Dennis Dabney, I appreciate your reply. You sound as if you have given this some real thought. John 4:24 tells us that God is a spirit. A spirit is unlimited to ways of manifestations. A spirit as powerful as he is can be in many places at one time. We are carnal meaning our experience and knowledge are with limits. I feel that God being omnipresent and in control makes him without the need to be split up into persons of a trinity. This is a being with ultimate power that has done the jobs of creation, author, King, prophet, son, etc. Hope to hear back. Thanks for interacting.