What is ACTUALLY the WORST Dungeon in Ocarina of Time

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Snooplax

Snooplax

Күн бұрын

I made a poll about The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time where I asked many question about OOT Temples / dungeons, ocarina songs, tunics, arrows. Ocarina of time came out for Nintendo 64, Nintendo Gamecube, Wii & Wii U & Nintendo Switch Online.
0:00 Introduction
0:38 Inside the Deku Tree
1:09 Dodongo's Cavern
1:22 Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly
1:39 Forest Temple
1:50 Fire Temple
2:02 Ice Cavern
2:19 Water Temple
3:24 Bottom of the Well
3:35 Shadow Temple
3:47 Spirit Temple
3:59 Gerudo Training Ground
4:13 Ganon's Castle
5:00 What Platform
5:27 What Character
5:35 Favorite Tunic
5:44 Favorite Arrow Type
5:51 Zelda's Lullaby
6:09 Epona's Song
6:21 Saria's Song
6:34 Sun's Song
6:46 Song of Time
7:10 Song of Storms
7:30 Minuet of Forest
7:42 Bolero of Fire
7:54 Serenade of Water
8:07 Requiem of Spirit
8:18 Nocturne of Shadow
8:30 Prelude of Light
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@DGR_Dave
@DGR_Dave 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough I always enjoyed Jabu Jabu Belly. I always thought it was so cool that there was a dungeon inside a giant fish lol. But I totally understand why a lot of people hate it
@MaraudingManiac
@MaraudingManiac 2 жыл бұрын
Design concept definitely counts for a lot, people will certainly overlook a dungeon's weak or unfun attributes if it's a really cool concept. In the case of Jabu Jabu, I think that people remember having to carry around Ruto and get very annoyed, especially since if you drop her in the water you have to start all over again. Escort missions, especially ones designed back then, are often ridiculed. Funnily enough, Ruto is basically serving the role of the Iron Ball from the previous game's seventh dungeon, Eagle Tower.
@BeingBetterBarney
@BeingBetterBarney 2 жыл бұрын
Only fish guts I wanna be in are Adult Ruto's.
@zodiacthundaga7264
@zodiacthundaga7264 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeingBetterBarney hot xd
@trevdoesweirdthings
@trevdoesweirdthings 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! I think that’s my favorite one
@hailervin
@hailervin 2 жыл бұрын
Lord DGR of Super Mario Maker 2 you are a platform master, of course you like the giant fish. 😂
@Keanine
@Keanine 2 жыл бұрын
Another improvement the 3DS version made was colour-coding the doors that lead to the triforce marks in the water temple, which made navigating SO much easier
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 2 жыл бұрын
What helped me most was not being 7
@courtneycherry5582
@courtneycherry5582 2 жыл бұрын
I always just got the dungeon map and compass and make sure I got everything regardless 😂
@ianroux2286
@ianroux2286 2 жыл бұрын
@@dstinnettmusic I’m actually laughing out loud 😂
@TreebeardXIV
@TreebeardXIV 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really not that difficult if you just work your way from the bottom level and upwards, rinse and repeat.
@Keanine
@Keanine 2 жыл бұрын
@@TreebeardXIV Agreed, but as someone new to the dungeon, and especially at the time when 3D was still new, it is a lot harder to come to that conclusion without some help. Age could also have something to do with it for some too
@RickRaptor105
@RickRaptor105 2 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised that Jabu Jabu's Belly is lower than the Water Temple. If you're into the challenge of 3 dimensional puzzles the Water Temple is a blast. Meanwhile Jabu Jabu's Belly is just annoying with all the electric enemies, and the fleshy interior makes this dungeon unpleasant to even look at.
@NeZCheese
@NeZCheese 2 жыл бұрын
JJB is a fucking escort mission. NO ONE likes escort missions.
@jyllianrainbow7371
@jyllianrainbow7371 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty surprised. I like Jabu Jabu's Belly quite a bit, specifically because of the creatively gross design.
@jacobbrodeur2735
@jacobbrodeur2735 2 жыл бұрын
I completely missed the survey somehow, but I would’ve absolutely voted Jabu Jabu’s Belly as least fav as well. I actually like the Water Temple, aside from having to re-equip the boots in the original (thankfully pc versions let you equip them and the ocarina on the d-pad).
@robprunyi
@robprunyi 2 жыл бұрын
not to mention having to carry rutu around
@16ktsgamma
@16ktsgamma 2 жыл бұрын
That's because you are inside a giant fish.
@drewhavens3821
@drewhavens3821 2 жыл бұрын
I think one thing that is apparent from this video, is how strong the soundtrack is. The least liked playable song is still liked by 69% of people. Music being an integral part of the game was ingenious.
@Nico_com_c
@Nico_com_c 2 жыл бұрын
*"Say the line Bart..."*
@Barrie96
@Barrie96 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a least favorite song. Every one of them was good
@john.premose
@john.premose 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t really remember any of the temple songs and I’d be surprised if many people do
@AlanTargas
@AlanTargas 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Also, Jabu Jabu's dungeon background music is quite disturbing and dull, with all the stomach sounds, not having a musical stamp well marked, making it not very memorable, as well as being really quiet
@charlessegale6493
@charlessegale6493 2 жыл бұрын
"The least liked playable song is still liked by 69% of people." *Nice.*
@GatorOne-in7hk
@GatorOne-in7hk 2 жыл бұрын
I’m legitimately shocked that the Forest Temple won out. I was convinced that the Spirit Temple was the fan favorite (though my favorite is the Fire Temple).
@Mr.MooMooJam
@Mr.MooMooJam 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fan favorite is the forest temple but the spirit temple is my personal favorite. I've always loved desert ruins in games and it's my favorite temple to replay
@treeman73272
@treeman73272 2 жыл бұрын
Strange, fire temple is one of the most annoying temples in my opinion just rising above the shadow temple for me
@GatorOne-in7hk
@GatorOne-in7hk 2 жыл бұрын
@@treeman73272 I love it for the atmospheric music, getting to rescue the Gorons and then slay a dragon with a hammer.
@treeman73272
@treeman73272 2 жыл бұрын
@@GatorOne-in7hk 1.0 music or 1.1 music?
@GatorOne-in7hk
@GatorOne-in7hk 2 жыл бұрын
@@treeman73272 Both are pretty good but the second one is better.
@moogibeans9822
@moogibeans9822 2 жыл бұрын
Really think the water temple hate is mostly a hate meme. People hear other people repeat how they hate it so much that they think "of course its bad!" even when the hatred is just overblown and everyone repeats it just to fit in Jabu jabus belly really was alot worse than the water temple. Makes sense it would be the least popular
@chopsandtoots
@chopsandtoots 2 жыл бұрын
I completed the water temple drunk as a skunk and still beat it with no issue so I think it's a massive exaggeration
@lif6737
@lif6737 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I played through the Water Temple as a young kid completely disconnected from the discourse surrounding it. The Water Temple is and has always been my favourite temple. I’d be so excited to explore it, with the fight with Shadow Link and the whirl pool river always sticking out as highlights, and I absolutely loved the temple design and musical ambiance. The music left such a lasting impression on me that I remember being seriously disappointed by Twilight Princesses Lakebed Temple because its music wasn’t tranquil like OoTs was. Any of the shortcomings, even on the N64, were probably just overlooked since I was a little kid that had no expectations of video games then. But, as a result, I know my opinion is a genuine one and not just me trying to be a contrarian. I loved that temple and no one could have convinced me otherwise
@tassaron
@tassaron Жыл бұрын
I love the Water Temple. I think some people dislike it because they don't use the map/compass, and others may have played it on a platform like emulator where pausing the game is slower than on N64. It's also the meme tho for sure 😂
@haggenfar
@haggenfar 2 жыл бұрын
The simple task to play a song manually to be transported to another place (aka fast travel) added an entire connection between the player and the universe of the game. This is art!
@mario8yoshi
@mario8yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest I actually really like the water temple. It was fun and attacking with the grappling hook underwater was a fun change of pace
@ramenaddict1676
@ramenaddict1676 2 жыл бұрын
It was not hard at all and idk why everyone complains.
@A88mph
@A88mph 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Song of Storms win this survey. It's my favorite song, and I even use it as my town tune in all versions of Animal Crossing.
@TheXaviZone
@TheXaviZone 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s a great idea!
@Amare_Sentire
@Amare_Sentire 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have finally been around to do a survey.
@ThunderStruck115
@ThunderStruck115 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the Shadow temple scored so high. The Water Temple might have been confusing, but it actually made me think, where the shadow temple requires pretty much no thought and has about as much complexity as the child dungeons
@Antixesis
@Antixesis 2 жыл бұрын
Probably nostalgia. In my mind I remember the Shadow Temple being really cool because of the dark imagery and memorable moments like the Ferry ride. Having played it again recently though, you're right the Shadow Temple is basically just a straight line to the end with little challenge unless you struggle with fighting Stalfos.
@hipersonicc9736
@hipersonicc9736 2 жыл бұрын
I really love this survey style videos! It would be interesting to see one about starfox 64 although i know it's not pretty popular. Cant wait for the paper Mario one
@johnfeather6476
@johnfeather6476 2 жыл бұрын
Star Fox needs more love. 😢
@nellynavarretevalle
@nellynavarretevalle 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnfeather6476 i agree, it's a shame people only remember them through smash
@tidepoolclipper8657
@tidepoolclipper8657 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention that they also changed a camera angle involving one of the platforms rising in the water, with the player now clearly knowing to swim through a once blocked opening. Also, I feel this was a missed opportunity to briefly mention that Forest Temple began as the original hub world for Zelda 64 (until it was replaced by Ganondorf's castle, which ultimately got trimmed down into just being the final dungeon). It was even the original design for Hyrule Castle.
@gastrictank4916
@gastrictank4916 2 жыл бұрын
I believe other pros to the Water Temple that helped save it from scoring last are the visuals and music. Those whom find themselves stuck, lost, and or tripping over their own boots will be a lot more forgiving when the moment-to-moment exploration is at least easy on the eyes and ears. Jabu Jabu's Belly is just... uncomfortable to be in. You're in a giant, smelly fish and the visuals, music, and sound effects reflect as much. It may be a fairly simple dungeon and you won't get lost for too long (if at all), but what little time you spend there you'll be wishing you were literally anywhere else- especially after coming from the much more beautiful Zora's domain.
@sirekumasutra7022
@sirekumasutra7022 2 жыл бұрын
Plus WT didn't have Ruto
@NoxWyatt
@NoxWyatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirekumasutra7022 Well, technically it did, but she was only there for like, 30 seconds.
@ThunderStruck115
@ThunderStruck115 2 жыл бұрын
Also the Dark Link fight was amazing
@theglassarrow_
@theglassarrow_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderStruck115 dark link is a great fight, and a challenge. Found out the best way to fight him is dont lock on to him and come at him spamming the sword at a slight angle off of him and he'll rarely get a hit in
@enid9911
@enid9911 2 жыл бұрын
I like the requim of spirit the most but zelda's lullaby sounds incredible in the credits
@lunar5842
@lunar5842 2 жыл бұрын
Same! The Requiem of Spirit and Song of Storms are the best songs!
@DannyDopamineTV
@DannyDopamineTV 2 жыл бұрын
The Zelda's Lullaby placement is really surprising
@HighPriestFuneral
@HighPriestFuneral 2 жыл бұрын
I do love that two songs directly connected with the royal family have the same exact score.
@DannyDopamineTV
@DannyDopamineTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@HighPriestFuneral I'm a little biased, my 7 year old daughter is named Zelda and has been listening to Zelda's Lullaby since before she was born. So it holds a special place in my heart
@Litronom
@Litronom 2 жыл бұрын
Another survey video! I always find those fascinating. Keep it up!
@Moonstrider
@Moonstrider 2 жыл бұрын
These survey vids are really awesome! :D
@ilikepie19921
@ilikepie19921 2 жыл бұрын
The Forest Temple is the best dungeon in the game and debatably the greatest dungeon in the series, with Arbiter's Grounds and Stone Tower as strong competition.
@retrogamermax8287
@retrogamermax8287 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Shadow Temple comes close to it as well. I think the Shadow Temple is the 2nd best dungeon in Ocarina of Time only behind the Forest Temple.
@ilikepie19921
@ilikepie19921 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamermax8287 In my first playthrough 12ish years ago the shadow temple was my favorite, so I like this take.
@handzar6402
@handzar6402 2 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamermax8287 I thought Shadow Temple was weakest dungeon in the game, not counting Jabu Jabu's Belly.
@jontargaryen3168
@jontargaryen3168 2 жыл бұрын
Spirit temple > forest temple
@retrogamermax8287
@retrogamermax8287 2 жыл бұрын
@@handzar6402 I think the weakest dungeon behind Jabu Jabu's Belly is the Water Temple. Both Water dungeons suck compared to the rest of the game's dungeons.
@ianroux2286
@ianroux2286 2 жыл бұрын
Fire Temple always stresses me out when you have to run up that circular staircase to get the hammer in time.
@raaaaaaayden
@raaaaaaayden 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much im so glad you keep making them !!!
@twistedninjafishz2683
@twistedninjafishz2683 2 жыл бұрын
You did a really good job on this video man it's always cool to see people actually like what they're talking about you can tell by how much effort and research you put in that you care about what you're talkin about is not just like you're reading from some script and you're feeding me crap that I've heard 10 times in a row
@retrogamermax8287
@retrogamermax8287 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people hate the Water Temple with a passion, but after playing Ocarina of Time so many times over the years I don't think it's as bad as everyone says it is as it's just a really slow pace dungeon. In my opinion I think Jabu Jabu's Belly is the worst designed dungeon in the game.
@queenypie4543
@queenypie4543 2 жыл бұрын
I was among the people who voted for Jabu Jabu as their least favorite, and it really boils down to one thing: it's not fun. When you remember that the platform in the middle tower rises up, and you remember to go back to the hole on the 2nd floor where you meet Ruto, the water temple is actually very straight forward. Jabu Jabu's Belly though? It's not that complicated, but carrying Ruto sucks, even after all these years, not helped by the arbitrary times the game yeets her back to her starting point. Then there's falling down the right hole which has no good way of remembering where it was. Even past all that, the dungeon is mostly dull, music is forgettable, mini-boss is annoying, boss is annoying, and for its first 3d debut (and last until Wind Waker like 8 years later), the boomerang is sorely underutilized. As for the other dungeons, I'm not too surprised, besides the Forest Temple. Personally I find the forest temple kinda drags until you get the bow. Fire, Spirit, and Shadow temple are all pretty good, Deku and Dodongo are both great; Ganon's tower is sadly forgettable despite being the final dungeon. The ice temple sucks because ice physics, but it's saved by being mercifully short, while Gerudo Training grounds is kinda neat in theory but lacks in execution. With songs, I'm disappointed that Requiem and Nocturne are so low. I'm surprised sun song got ranked worst, but I guess if any song had to take the fall, it'd be that one. Ofc people like playing adult link, because you can do 95% of what child link can do, and then several unique things. The bow is an upgraded slingshot, the hookshot is basically just a better boomerang, and nothing else matters; the only thing that kinda sucks to lose is crawl spaces. Aaand another game to give my weird opinions, this oughta be fun~
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 2 жыл бұрын
I do not like the mini boss or the Boss of Jabu Jabu's Belly. That said the Shadow Temple is my least favorite. I do not like creepy things, or Bongo Bongo.
@marissaschad
@marissaschad 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing that you added the young link dungeons I was hoping Jabu-Jabu’s belly was ranked the worst because I always despised it lol I feel hating the water temple has become an opinion so popular that people just hate it to follow the crowd. I personally find the water temple quite relaxing. Visually the temple is beautiful and it comes with arguably the best mini boss in any Zelda game.
@handzar6402
@handzar6402 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'd call any of the dungeons ''bad'', per se. I think Jabu-Jabu's Belly is the closest to thing to a bad dungeon because I see what they were going for and it didn't really work, in my opinion. Jabu-Jabu was more annoying than anything else. The first two dungeons work because they're the introduction to 3D space in Zelda, and they were never going to be anything other than straightforward. The meat of the dungeons comes as adult Link.. The Water Temple is easily the most well-designed dungeon, it's a masterpiece. The only problem (and, yes, it's a big one) is the switching between boots in the N64 version. However, the dungeon in the 3DS version is arguably the greatest dungeon in Zelda history, IMO. The Forest Temple and Spirit Temple are next, they're not as intricate as Water, but they're just a lot of fun to explore and figure out. Fire Temple is fine, nothing special but still a good dungeon. Then, Shadow Temple, is totally mediocre as far as I'm concerned. It's super linear and basically a gauntlet of enemies with minimal puzzle-solving. It gets points for atmosphere, the boss and the way the dungeon item is implemented, but in terms of design it's just completely meh. I don't really consider Ganon's Tower a dungeon in the strict sense. My ranking would be: 1. Water Temple (Next two are really close) 2. Forest Temple 3. Spirit Temple 4. Fire Temple 5. Inside the Deku Tree 6. Dodongo's Cavern 7. Shadow Temple 8. Jabu-Jabu's Belly
@dragondiana8
@dragondiana8 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I missed the vote for this survey, 'cause oot is my favourite game of all time, but I would had voted as the most people, for the best and worst dungeon for example... I just made it for the tie vote for the songs... xD
@DVal-bl7hm
@DVal-bl7hm 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I always thought I was the only one who didn't think the Ice Cavern was all that hot. (No pun intended.) Not only did it feel boring and uncreative to me, but backtracking for Blue Fire gets kind of obnoxious after a bit.
@alec_almartson
@alec_almartson 2 жыл бұрын
The Best for me will always be The Great Deku Tree, because it was the First, and in it's time (in December, 1998) it really Amazed me 👍🏻🔥
@horrisnorris6478
@horrisnorris6478 2 жыл бұрын
The Water Temple is one of the best Zelda dungeons ever, I've never understood why so many people hate it at all
@ApexGale
@ApexGale 2 жыл бұрын
because in the og you have to switch boots a lot. pause, scroll over to equipment, switch to iron boots, close. need to float? do it again for regular boots. the 3d port fixed this major issue and as such is waaay better.
@dave0754
@dave0754 2 жыл бұрын
All the goddamn backtracking if you forget to get a key. So much wasted time.
@edward8380
@edward8380 Жыл бұрын
Also the final boss is really boring
@marcussherwood740
@marcussherwood740 2 жыл бұрын
I had the official guide and I still had a hard time on the water temple.
@Konan43316
@Konan43316 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I used that too. Yeah that dungeon was a pain
@fatalwaffle1715
@fatalwaffle1715 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Video!
@doom3926
@doom3926 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I ever thought about what my least favorite dungeon is in this game but I would definitely still say the Water Temple after putting some thought into it for the reason that, even if you’ve replayed OOT and the 3DS version multiple times, you may sometimes have a bad run of some dungeons where you’re thinking too far ahead and miss something as a result and I believe the water temple is the worst dungeon that can happen in. if you missed just one area you most likely have to spend time bringing the water level to where you need it for that area, and then spend more time resetting the water level back to what it was before so you can continue your progress whereas in every other dungeon if you missed something you can just run over to where you need to and get there relatively quickly and then run back to where you left off just as quickly apart from a select few situations
@stupidstormy36
@stupidstormy36 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly when I played this game back in '98, I didn't find the water temple to be that bad. I liked it despite the whole iron boots thing. I can understand why Jabu is so low.
@lunar5842
@lunar5842 2 жыл бұрын
The Spirit Temple will always remain my personal favorite dungeon (it makes great use of the time travel, and Nabooru is my favorite sage!), but I completely understand why the Forest Temple is the fan favorite. It's the "gateway" to the adult dungeons, the ambience was fantastic, the boss is great, and I loved the "Little Women" easter egg with the Poe Sisters!
@silverden8706
@silverden8706 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, what made the Water temple okay in the 3DS remake weren't even the controls. All they did was add a little 1 second camera pan to the passage that most of us missed in the original, being in the middle structure when the water rises, right underneath the floating platform. That was the key that locked us out of progress and that was a very elegant solution.
@Schwarzorn
@Schwarzorn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's the main problem. The boot swapping gets annoying if you're impatient, but is otherwise fine. That key was so easy to miss that people qoups miss it on second and even third playthrus.
@starman1004
@starman1004 2 жыл бұрын
Many people say the Forest Temple is their favorite (myself included) because it's the turning point in the game when the game gets a lot more challenging and also resembles Link's maturation into an adult. In fact, I was also anticipating JJB to be the least favorite as I found it much easier than DC and rather forgettable dungeon. Although it's purely my speculation, I'm wondering if the developers specifically designed these two dungeons like this back to back because they wanted to express to the player that sudden rise in difficulty between JJB and Forest Temple to prepare the player for the rest of the game. I definitely remember playing this game as a young kid the best moment was conquering the forest temple and the first dungeon as adult Link. Edit: As for the Water Temple, it doesn't surprise me at all it scored higher than JJB because players would rather be annoyed at a very difficult dungeon than a ridiculously easy dungeon because of the sense of accomplishment. That and many Zelda fans probably agree Dark Link is arguably as epic as the final fight with Ganon.
@Thesilentvoice...
@Thesilentvoice... 2 жыл бұрын
For me the scariest temples were the shadow and forest temples. I felt so uneasy and scared, in the forest temple you would get taken by that hand and grabbed to the ceiling. In the forest temple you had invisible places and it looked like a torcher prison.
@Raylightsen
@Raylightsen 2 жыл бұрын
The heck ya talking about man? Even as a kid i loved like crazy those 2 temples coz of the scary atmosphere. You have problems if you cannot appreciate that.
@StupidMarioBros1Fan
@StupidMarioBros1Fan 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the score for Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly was amazing, was not expecting to laugh so hard when clicking on the video.
@Schwarzorn
@Schwarzorn 2 жыл бұрын
So 27% of people's first experience with Ocarina of Time is with bad controls on GameCube, Wii, Wii U, Switch, or emulator on a computer. That's really sad... Cuz those people probably will never get a chance to play it on an actual N64, so they forever think the game _"has old, yucky controls"_ and _"didn't age well"._
@tsuki_4366
@tsuki_4366 2 жыл бұрын
oot feels fine on modern controllers to me other than modern analog sticks being a little more sensitive, and that one frog minigame. sin and punishment on the other hand...
@Schwarzorn
@Schwarzorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@tsuki_4366 The modern Control Sticks have such a significantly lower range of x and y points that any time I see a letsplay or stream of an N64 game, they fail miserably at platforming and first-person aiming, and then think the game was made badly. The buttons too, tho, for complex move sets like Banjo-Kazooie. I saw one person barely make it thru, hating it the whole time, thinking the controls were garage, only to try the it on an actual N64 and discover how simple the controls were meant to be. All the deaths? The yelling? The agony? Wouldn't've happened with the original controller. Tho I get not wanting to deal with the note high-scores that reset after each death...
@Bread-kun
@Bread-kun 2 жыл бұрын
My feelings on dungeons changed a lot from "firs time playthrough" to "replaying the game a lot especially with randomizer". Forest your first time playing the game is fantastic. Has a great atmosphere, stalfos are probably the first actually threatening enemies to you. But replaying the game and especially in randomizer man is it restrictive and extremely linear. A lot of the adult dungeons are kinda linear but forest in particular is extremely linear and slow
@jakec3172
@jakec3172 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this way about the shadow temple. It’s basically a huge long hallway. Forest doesn’t feel as bad as shadow to me. Funnily enough it used to be my favorite temple.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
When I replayed Ocarina on switch, I didn’t want to choose Water Temple as the worst dungeon but man does it suck… I basically used speedrun strats (ie: pause, equip, unpause in a second) and it was still annoying. The 3ds version was an obvious inprovement!
@Kleicomolo
@Kleicomolo 2 жыл бұрын
Water was always the best. Loved the underwater combat sound effects, the weird ancient-seeming music, the whirlpool cave was creepy (where do they go already so far underground?), the dragon statues fit well and looked like they were out of mythology, Shadow Link, etc. For me it’s always been the focal point of excitement in a play through, after which there’s a bit of saddening comedown that the best is over. About the whirlpool tunnel, that shows up in Ys 8 as well I swear.
@GameEssays
@GameEssays 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including my video! Regardless of what people think of the Water Temple ( I love it btw), Serenade of Water has no business scoring that low!
@dramadays6311
@dramadays6311 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not really surprised that Inside Jabu Jabu’s Belly isn’t very loved. I actually love the design of Jabu Jabu’s belly, and it has my favourite boss in that dungeon, Barinade, but I do actually HATE playing through it, it’s very hard. I needed ZeldaMaster’s video to help. But overall, I loved Inside Jabu Jabu’s Belly.
@kawaiikirbs
@kawaiikirbs 2 жыл бұрын
The water temple was difficult for me at first, but the more I played ocarina of time over the years, the less difficult it was for me. The Water Temple maybe tricky for some players (especially new), but it's not too bad of a dungeon
@noah-wm4nv
@noah-wm4nv 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the water temple because of the fact that people said it was so bad and it wasn’t made me enjoy it a ton. My favorite is probably shadow temple
@thomashindle6315
@thomashindle6315 2 жыл бұрын
I know everyone will probably say the water temple but it's not too bad when you know that you should first, unlock all 3 water level points, then fight dark Link, get the boss key, then fight Morpha.
@ozzymandias7649
@ozzymandias7649 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man. I really appreciate that you took the time to explain why the opinion of Water Temple shifted over time. A lot of KZbinrs will just gloss over the history of gaming and gaming culture, so I commend you actually being informative for people younger than me who might not know this stuff.
@AHEM1313
@AHEM1313 2 жыл бұрын
"Grrr! You all like destroying my windmill, don't you?! Grrr ..." In other news, I'm not at all surprised that Saria's Song took second place, but it would easily have gotten first if Darunia and the other Gorons had internet access!
@LostSoulSilver
@LostSoulSilver 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite is Forest Temple. Awesome ambience, music, and aesthetic. Very fresh and natural
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite: Ice cave. Second place: Water Temple. Yes. I really like it. And then... probably Ghost, Shadow and Ganon's Castle in no particular order. I also like Jabu Jabu's Belly and probably dislike the Forest Temple the most. So... I guess I'm an edge case.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
That’s fine. You’re entitled to your opinion. But since this is the internet and you dislike my fave dungeon (forest temple) that makes you the enemy! (Joking)
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 2 жыл бұрын
@@BR-jw7pm How dare you like something that I dislike! Aren't there laws against that? Of course my opinion is the only correct one that everyone agrees with. ;)
@ujwalkuckian
@ujwalkuckian 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lugmillord how dare you dislike the community opinion (Reloading the Shotgun) ~You Know The Rules And So Do I~
@kiminowak8295
@kiminowak8295 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can't choose a favorite Song; I like all of them! Same thing with Tunics, Young/Adult Link, and Arrow types
@lvl5Vaporeon
@lvl5Vaporeon 2 жыл бұрын
I hated Jabu Jabus belly way more.
@KingZorLink21
@KingZorLink21 Жыл бұрын
4:06 the bottom of the well is optional too, however, if you don’t get the lens of truth, the game will be much harder
@TheAquaMonster
@TheAquaMonster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there were no statistics for the bosses. If you were to revisit OoT I would love to see the stats for the bosses, dungeon items and non-ocarina songs. Would be awesome to see a similar format plus at least the bosses for Majora's Mask (or any other zelda game really).
@xRocketzFighterx
@xRocketzFighterx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the community has more warmed up to the Water Temple even if its thanks to the 3DS remake, I never found it too tough or too dull to get through, tho you don't swim I love swiming irl, the cool yet menacing pressence of the music, two of the best boss battles in the whole game. If I noticed your poll I would've voted Spirit Temple as the best and Fire Temple as least fav. ST is simply beautiful and well worth the long journey through OOT just to get to that temple which imo has middle difficulty of puzzles n combat. The Fire Temple, I find that temple too easy to complete, everytime I go through the game it just feels like a blur/a stepping stone in the adventure, only thing I like about that temple is the boss fight and... that's it.
@GoldenGoodieGoomba
@GoldenGoodieGoomba 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you think you can do this with Majora’s Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess too?
@rykavproductions666
@rykavproductions666 2 жыл бұрын
Pls do the dungeons rankings for the rest of the 3D Zelda games, I'd be super interested in a Twilight Princess one since all the dungeons in that are great
@ExilioRebelBC
@ExilioRebelBC 2 жыл бұрын
The water temple is one of the best dungeons of 3D zeldas. All the hate comes from people not used to take notes.
@ExilioRebelBC
@ExilioRebelBC 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the poor UI choices, but it was 1998. It was so well designed that it made look linear the rest of the dungeons (aside from the Fire Temple).
@coldstuff9784
@coldstuff9784 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think the last time I played through the game, I finished the water temple within a day, it wasn't that hard. The other dungeons, I get lost in a lot though. And I'm surprised so many other people share the same opinion about Jabu Jabu's dungeon, it's kinda neat but there's too many annoying things in it like Ruto and constantly getting stunned. My absolute favourite song is Bolero of Fire, I used to just spam that song and not warp so I could listen to the entire thing. Loved the look of the red tunic. I liked the Fire Temple (except for the annoying fire maze), but it did make me feel kinda down because of the whole prisoner thing, but it wasn't as spooky as the Shadow Temple or well. Very interesting to see other people's thoughts and opinions about the game! I'm enjoying these polls.
@BRLink1
@BRLink1 2 жыл бұрын
My top 3 would be water-spirit-forest and I switch arround spirit and forest arround depending on my mood on the day
@harizonflamingice3167
@harizonflamingice3167 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly find the Water Temple fine. Not easy, by any means, but I think because of how stumped I usually am when I play it, I have a weird appreciation of that one (except the boss, which is the one thing about pretty much every Water Dungeon I dislike regardless of which Zelda title we're talking about). Jabu Jabu's Belly I've never cared much for though. I think it's mainly because of the jellyfish because every time they shock Link, it's like I can hear them laughing sadistically at him, and it does become somewhat tiresome.
@Satoascorpion
@Satoascorpion 2 жыл бұрын
28% said the Ice Arrows are their favorite arrows. Y'all are LYIN' lmao
@SmugProductions
@SmugProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently playing the Nintendo 64 version for the first time, so I’m gonna have a rough time with the water temple. Even on the 3DS version, I still struggled with the boss.
@Thekinggamelon
@Thekinggamelon 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know you were aware of last year, but when a overdump cartridge of F-Zero that had some Ocarina of Time leftover, there was a different Water Temple design, MUCH bigger than the one we all have today. If Nintendo kept that design, your survey's results in worst dungeons would say otherwise.
@ReceptiveRaptor
@ReceptiveRaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Cool story, too bad we were only going off the released version huh?
@Thekinggamelon
@Thekinggamelon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReceptiveRaptor Thank you. Well, think about it, you could be lucky we didn't have that one, because since it was SO big, it would been even more frustrating.
@tankatlus5797
@tankatlus5797 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if I can make a what if Survey like what if Street Fighter franchise had an N64 game and what should be added in terms of characters and stages whether be old and or new
@didyouseethat710
@didyouseethat710 2 жыл бұрын
Ive never seemed to have an issue in the water temple, I always got through it just as easy as any of the others
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Jabbu Jabbu’s belly was definitely the one I struggled with most as a kid.
@bighazza3470
@bighazza3470 2 жыл бұрын
My song of scare crows slapped so I think that one is the best
@ThunderStruck115
@ThunderStruck115 2 жыл бұрын
Please do this for all the other Zelda games
@sailiealquadacil1284
@sailiealquadacil1284 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game for the first time on the GameCube (we had the OoT/Master Quest/Wind Waker version). I never had issues with the Water Temple, but I hated the Forest Temple. I got lost, somehow, and I hate Wallmasters to this day.
@alexkay6676
@alexkay6676 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Majorca’s Mask if this. Also, I didn’t really have any problems with The Water Temple. I understand the constant changing of boots is kind of annoying, but not enough to take away from the level.
@noodleboix
@noodleboix 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Song of Storms because of the lore. It literally inserted itself in OOT's time line. As adult Link, he guy in the windmill said a kid taught it to him who turns out to be kid Link. So that begs the question....where did the song originally come from?
@savannahl4581
@savannahl4581 2 жыл бұрын
Water Temple as adult link. I remember I restarted my game one time because I was trapped in there short by one key. Lol never figured it out.
@3NTR4PT4
@3NTR4PT4 Жыл бұрын
I think the Fire Temple is so cool. So cool in fact, that I would play through the whole game up to the Fire Temple as a kid JUST to play it. I love the mystery behind the architecture and how none of it is actually Goron related. Makes you wonder about the true lore of Death Mountain and if Volvagia is even a villain. Super cool temple, I like ones that make you wonder.
@remilia20xx78
@remilia20xx78 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Nocturne of Shadow wasn't in the top half of liked songs. Doesn't anyone like the grim feeling it sounds like? I'm also kind of surprised Sun Song was the least favorite, but it doesn't have much background noise.
@fshonuff
@fshonuff 2 жыл бұрын
Just a side note I thought inside the Deku Tree was a fantastic introduction as far as what to expect in any subsequent dungeons.
@Neobelmont1
@Neobelmont1 2 жыл бұрын
Fire,spirit temple were my favorites growing up and it still is, but add shadow temple to the list as well, Call it the castlevania in me but it feels like home in an odd way. I thought the well would be a dungeon as well but I guess it is not?
@CKLaboratories
@CKLaboratories 2 жыл бұрын
So the worst temple IS the Water Temple, except its the Child Water Temple
@dangomez834
@dangomez834 2 жыл бұрын
In the N64 version my favourite was Forest, in 3DS my favourite is Water without a doubt 😍🤩
@BryantheArchivist
@BryantheArchivist 2 жыл бұрын
The water temple is actually one of the best. Beat it on n64 and 3ds.
@groundedgameplayx
@groundedgameplayx Жыл бұрын
Water & Forest are awesome, really interesting & challenging puzzle design
@AS-fu1kd
@AS-fu1kd 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta do this style with the music inside the dungeons
@outseteddy6306
@outseteddy6306 2 жыл бұрын
Forest Temple may be my favorite temple in all of Zelda. The boss is whatever but I enjoyed it aesthetically. and its music is awesome. Jabu Jabu's belly was my least favorite because it was so same-y, annoying enemies (electrocution!!), and a bit confusing with having to fall through the wholes. Anyway, this was a really cool videos, gonna have to sub and check out that Majora's Mask masks one lol
@ujwalkuckian
@ujwalkuckian 2 жыл бұрын
I play Oot on my mobile I'm currently about to go to temple of time to turn to adult yeah i have literally half game to complete But with my limited experience yes the jabu jabu part was actually nothing had much to explore like go to next room carry her on the head get boomerang and volia! after couple of rooms boss-fight
@outseteddy6306
@outseteddy6306 2 жыл бұрын
@@ujwalkuckian I've beaten the game a few times (both on 3DS and Gamecube) and played it a bunch on different hardware and I've always dreaded the Jabu jabu part lol. Fire temple, Dodongo, and water temple did grow on me so I like them more than I did before
@ujwalkuckian
@ujwalkuckian 2 жыл бұрын
@@outseteddy6306 I'm eager to complete the game but studies & exams act as a barrier
@outseteddy6306
@outseteddy6306 2 жыл бұрын
@@ujwalkuckian That's definitely understandable. OoT is worth completing so don't give up! Best of luck to you
@ujwalkuckian
@ujwalkuckian 2 жыл бұрын
@@outseteddy6306 thx mate !
@beelzebabe8480
@beelzebabe8480 2 жыл бұрын
I think the inside joke of water temple being the worst also came from an issue that could occur where, if done in an "incorrect" order, you'd end up with a locked door and no keys and no way to get a key. Idk if they fixed this in the 3DS version though.
@crescendo5594
@crescendo5594 2 жыл бұрын
Not only was the water temple not bad, it was really creative and fun.
@drewlmao
@drewlmao 2 жыл бұрын
How did the Deku Tree do so well?
@OstianOwl
@OstianOwl 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the warp songs mostly being ranked lower is because they're mostly so short and underutilized in the soundtrack that they don't leave much of an impression. Bolero of Fire being the exception is pretty ironic considering the theme to the first Legend of Zelda was originally intended to be Maurice Ravel's Bolero before Kondo realized it wasn't in the public domain yet.
@realpaperstarzz
@realpaperstarzz 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite dungeon is probably forest or shadow, with my favorite songs being the seranade of water, requiem of spirit, song of storms, and song of time. I first completed the game on the 3ds.
@chaxinitus
@chaxinitus 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's two major factors to consider with this (at least with Water Temple) The first you touched on, the 3DS Remake helped a LOT of the things working against the Water Temple, just like Wind Waker HD got cleaned up a lot when that came out (I quit orig Wind Waker multiple times once I got to the triforce quest, NGL) There's also the modern internet age. I was playing OoT on the GameCube release, so it wasn't like, "Internet isn't a thing" by any means, but guides and video walkthroughs weren't nearly what they are nowadays (and my parents had shitty internet so video walkthroughs probably wouldn't have helped anyway, haha) I remember having a fucking fantastic walkthrough from GameFAQs my brother had found for me, and I do enjoy water temple knowing what I need to do, but I don't know that I'd enjoy it nearly as much going into it blind and without a resource to check like that.
@TheOnilink1230
@TheOnilink1230 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should redo the water temple n64 vs 3ds. And I think you should redo all the songs and do it both based off of just melody and just usability then average them for overall and show all three!
@dehydratedbowser5261
@dehydratedbowser5261 2 жыл бұрын
I have only played the 3DS version but the Water Temple was my favourite
@PFGFrankly
@PFGFrankly 2 жыл бұрын
wish i was here earlier to do the paper Mario survay
@williamnother8066
@williamnother8066 2 жыл бұрын
I won't lie- I really didn't like the opening stages of the Ice Caverns at all, but just the sheer fantasy magical stillness of the wolf's den at the end really does make up for everything else. It was such an unexpected, peaceful yet somber area to run into (that I wished I never had to leave) that it became one of my favorite areas in all of Zelda
@christiancastilla5411
@christiancastilla5411 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, where's the link to the paper mario poll???
@Snooplax
@Snooplax 2 жыл бұрын
forms.gle/TaqN5kshz6m4PGH89 There it is thanks for reminding me!
@rroadagain2810
@rroadagain2810 2 жыл бұрын
I've never played OoT on the 3DS, but I never had any real issues with Water Temple. It's may be because I don't mind stuff like annoying menuing and whatnot. In fact, the first time I got completely stumped by the Forest Temple instead. I could not find a key required for progression. The next time this didn't happen so who knows what went wrong there. I'm not surprised in the least that Jabu is actually the least liked dungeon. Water levels in games tend to get flak (Even if it might not be THAT watery), and hey, you know what people love? Escort missions. It doesn't do it that much, but the little that is there is not very interesting either.
@lavender317
@lavender317 2 жыл бұрын
I played OoT for the first time recently and was genuinely surprised at how not bad the water temple was Like it was a little frustrating, but there was no point where I wanted to break my controller in rage or anything like that To be fair it was the 3ds version which us supposed to be a little easier with that temple but still
@peakhelliw1509
@peakhelliw1509 2 жыл бұрын
My least favorite was the fire temple, once you get up to the very top it's like walking on a tight rope and since I was playing it on the Wii U, to me the emulation port isn't that good when it comes to controls so when I was playing it on the Wii U it was like riding a tricycle on a tightrope
@Shadbraw
@Shadbraw 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s pretty difficult to control Link with the Wii U controller, especially when you have a path only 3 feet wide to walk across.
@LITTLE1994
@LITTLE1994 2 жыл бұрын
People always say Water Temple, but the worst to me is actually Ganon's Castle first half.
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