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Concrete with the Hauses

Concrete with the Hauses

Күн бұрын

Tom gets a call because the concrete at a warehouse is heaving. Check out what he finds underneath the concrete!
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@terryross1754
@terryross1754 Жыл бұрын
I am a life-long engineering QA/QC person, and I really enjoy watching a conscientious professional boss running a good team. You are a good example to others. Keep on keeping on !
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I really enjoy every day.
@ryansmuscle
@ryansmuscle Жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@btj1844
@btj1844 Жыл бұрын
I was in commercial construction for over 45 years and have experience with heaving and subsidence. Generally speaking, depending where you are geographically, heaving can be caused by many things like leaking pipes under the slab, unstable soils types below the slab such as high P.I. soils or fat clays. A soils investigation by a qualified Geotechnical engineer would expose this before foundation and slab work if employed. In severe cases the entire slab may need to be removed and remedial work applied to the subgrade such as lime stabilization or complete soil replacement. It's always a complicated subject with lots of finger pointing. Good luck!
@MikeZMonroe
@MikeZMonroe Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your comments from professionals that has had practical experience in a construction dilemma like this. The owner of this property I’m sure appreciates all the input as well as Tom.
@longwildernesswalks
@longwildernesswalks Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, first time viewer of your channel here. First, great episode and wonderful explinations. Thank you! We ran into a similar issue in Lubbock, Texas back in 2009. Slag was used as a base media, and we found that every time it rained our warehouse would heave. Our company was a distributor of water chemistry for industrial treatment so 275 gallon totes would go in and out all day on forktrucks. We would avoid traveling over the effected area when it did heave, as best we could. That said, we did not tear out. Instead (since the building was at the base of a hill and water was pooling in a low area around the building) we built a 3' deep french drain around 3/4 of the building. Mainly around the areas were no traffic would be. Almost instantly the slag stopped heaving as we diverted any water away from the foundation and out toward the street for runoff. This solved our issue, and 14 years later we're still doing great! Might be something worth suggesting. We also placed a few layers of poly in the bottom of the trench and up the wall toward the building, then covered it, to prevent any passthrough leeching. It's not cheap, but it's cheaper than pouring 3000 sq.ft. of concrete again. Water, it's a huge pain in the butt. Great episode! I'll be back for sure!
@jimmcginty8572
@jimmcginty8572 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy watching you and your team figure out the problem, and then professionally finishing it!! Thanks for the soil education Tom.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@tombarnes1871
@tombarnes1871 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, After WWII a lot of brick homes were built in the Pittsburgh area, many used the J&L slag from the pile along the Parkway North. A lot of people used the slag because it was cheap as opposed to 2-B washed gravel. Eight years or so later the foundation blocks began deteriorating Requiring the house to be lifted everything removed and new block foundation installed. The ground was with the slag interacted with the concrete eating each out!!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Wow, that is amazing. Imagine the price tag on all of that.
@keithburch5506
@keithburch5506 Жыл бұрын
What is the 'slag' made from? I understand the company owner is leasing the building and isn't going to pay out any more than necessary. This really reminded me of my 9.5 years in construction. When we had bad weather they would try to find work inside for us. We were bricklayers, but we did many different jobs inside. Better than signing up. Less than 32 hours, we would sign up for temporary unemployment. Wasn't a full week pay, but better than no pay. You pointing out the dried/frozen mudd in your skid loader, reminds me also if jobsites. The brick crew was on site when it was fresh. Just graded dirt w a concrete footer. Any amount of water makes a muddy mess on everything! So I feel for you, it's a day to day problem when working on new jobsites. So many of us can honestly say, "I hate mudd!" I did remember y'all being there the first time. Another great video in the books! Thanks Tom.👍🙏❤🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith it’s always a struggle working in the winter
@robertwazniak9495
@robertwazniak9495 Жыл бұрын
Tom… the obverse can also happen. If the expandable soil was wet (expanded) when the building was constructed, then a lowering of the water table could have caused the problem. The area around the perimeter of the building could have a lowered water table for some reason and the soil settled. Here in Wisconsin, it is quite common to have level manholes in the winter and they turn into bumps in the summer. Here it is frost raising the roadway and the manhole doesn’t get frost under them. A similar thing happens with the expandable soils. The “draining” of the perimeter could be weather caused or somebody may have just installed an underground utility and inadvertently created a French drain and over the years the water table lowered a bit.
@MikeZMonroe
@MikeZMonroe Жыл бұрын
Super insightful comment. In reading other comments there’s a wealth of very knowledgeable people watching Tom who respectfully comment as they really technically know there $hit.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
You’re right, that sounds like it could happen
@skliros9235
@skliros9235 Жыл бұрын
This is my thought too. Add in the fact, they are stacking heavy materials around the exterior of the building, that adds weight on the building foundation. The building is settling slightly.
@raybonecrusher4516
@raybonecrusher4516 Жыл бұрын
I have seen the same thing happen before. During construction, a access road is built thru the site. Many times fly ash is added early into the ground to dry up areas that traffic has pumped up moisture. Most of the time the area that was used as a access road will hump up during the curing time after the concrete is poured. It looked to me like the heaving of the concrete was uniform and in a straight line from end to end of the building. The access road thru the building would not have the same substrate as the rest of the building.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
What a mess
@Davewdmace
@Davewdmace Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong having that "go to expertise" makes you and your business more diversified and profitable. And that's the bottom line. Always enjoy and look forward to seeing your videos.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@donttreadonme9132
@donttreadonme9132 Жыл бұрын
I hydro excavate every day here in Colorado Springs. We have a lot of different soils here. I dug a 22 ft deep 4ft diameter hole and it was all sand. Other spots we have clay, sandstone and tons of river rock and cobble.
@jamesadams893
@jamesadams893 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video ,nothing like somebody talking incessantly and showing very little of the actual work done
@jimmieburleigh9549
@jimmieburleigh9549 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'm not the only one that can do without the loud music
@bollera.bolljr2414
@bollera.bolljr2414 Жыл бұрын
Tom , without a proper soil test this could come back to bite you .We were called in to remedy a slab in a municipal garage that was heaving , after breaking out a section of floor 8"thick we had a soils engineer take a coring sample , his findings were we were actually on a peet bed that was app 4' deep , if not deeper .Their solution was to layer 2" dense blue styrofoam in a predetermined criss cross pattern to stabilize the future concrete floor , surprisingly this was done in numerous building in the area and was a working solution . we did this app 8 yrs ago and it is a municipal vehicle garage , so far we have had no problems , we are in the metropolitan Chicago area ! hope for the best and pour the rest !
@paulrosselle9747
@paulrosselle9747 Жыл бұрын
Was the job done wrong? Or are you being a critic?
@dc6233
@dc6233 Жыл бұрын
@@paulrosselle9747 Did you read what he said?? This "could come back to bite you" because he may have needed to excavate more material. However, if the water table was that high, what then?? I'm sure there could have been more testing and greater costlier solutions, but being a leased building with the owner responsible for the repairs, I get it. I don't think the guy was being a critic, he was sharing his experience with a solution that works in similar situations...
@JS-qd9rz
@JS-qd9rz Жыл бұрын
DC maybe people didn't realize the business owner is responsible for the maintenance and upgrades and not the building owner.
@ladeseddy5994
@ladeseddy5994 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Seem it before. Styrofoam. Drainage would help a lot. Next big rain....
@bollera.bolljr2414
@bollera.bolljr2414 Жыл бұрын
@@paulrosselle9747 no on both counts . Job was bid as occupant wanted it repaired .Owner of building should have known this was a problem since he has owned it .I'm just being honest that we had a similiar problem with a municipal building , the floor was heaving .After numerous attempted repairs owner called us and we immediatly took soil borings .Boring company suggested excavating to minus 4ft and layering in 2 in styrofoam in a pre determined pattern to within 10in of finish grade and pour with rebar ....it works !
@BloodSweatTearsConcrete
@BloodSweatTearsConcrete Жыл бұрын
Working indoors even for a couple days (especially in a factory setting) makes me miss the outdoors. I can’t imagine working everyday in there. Nice work!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it
@michaelc.3812
@michaelc.3812 Жыл бұрын
I like in golden Colorado and knew the answer to your expansive soil question. We have it up and down the front range as there is much clay in the soil. Builders in homes out here have resorted to NOT pouring basement floors but they hang a joist style floor in many homes (most of the homes out here have basements, unlike some other areas as our water table is much lower). We also must build floating walls when finishing a basement or any walls on top of concrete (look up floating walls, and they aren’t to difficult but they are SUPER important so you don’t destroy a home). Good video Tom, thanks
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Very interesting the different techniques
@michaelc.3812
@michaelc.3812 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Tom, and it seemed a good compromise to fix what really had to be repaired and not tearing out the entire floor. Nice weather in there too, considering it’s feb!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jamivanschoyck3852
@jamivanschoyck3852 Жыл бұрын
Very nice you took the time to explain about expanding soil’s. Most people wouldn’t do that that gives us all the indication of your character Tom thank you very much very useful information
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jimputnam2044
@jimputnam2044 Жыл бұрын
My dad used to do Diamond drilling to test soil before large buildings or roads and bridges before they were built. Was interesting to learn this from him
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to learning more
@garyweber7419
@garyweber7419 Жыл бұрын
I'm betting if you check outside around the building the drainage has changed and the waters not getting away from the building because this would have been a problem long ago. This happens often gravel added outside / inconvenient drainage ditch closed up / building added next door dumping water .
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I think you’re right
@davidbishop4015
@davidbishop4015 Жыл бұрын
Very informative Tom. I learned something new with this video. I like how you do your homework to solve the problems that you encounter during the jobs you do. And how you ask for help if you don't have all the answers. Great job. Stay safe.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I love challenges and I really enjoyed learning new things
@gorillaau
@gorillaau Жыл бұрын
​@@Concretewiththehauses In any industry, if you are not learning, you are probably going backwards, and there is always more to learn.
@chucklogan9611
@chucklogan9611 Жыл бұрын
Tom you should definitely send those soil samples out for inspection by a certified company just to be absolutely positive about the underlying cause of this
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
We dumped on site we still may do a soil study just out of curiosity
@geneticdisorder1900
@geneticdisorder1900 Жыл бұрын
I worked on a house where the basement floor heaved, poor drainage, no space heater, fhakin cold weather. Bad combo !!! Floor split down the middle and lifted almost 3” pushing the lally columns up too. After thawing, the carpenters had to cut an 1-1/2” off most of the columns. The floor of course never completely settled and had a good 1/2” canyon the length of the house. Another house,luckily only had 3’ of ice in the basement 😬 didn’t hurt the floor or house. Didn’t need a step ladder to rough in the plumbing and heat piping .
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
That sounds nasty
@Tokaisho1
@Tokaisho1 Жыл бұрын
They could do with a good drainage system at the side of that building where the hill is, might remedy this for the future
@botfoblhrp
@botfoblhrp Жыл бұрын
that guy with board screed is kinda magical😄👍
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks,
@flowerstone
@flowerstone Жыл бұрын
Tom, this is about some past pours. On the steps I notice you set your form boards at height of slab. When I did steps I ripped the bottom of the board at a 45 degree angle so that I could trowel right to the step. When I pulled the form there wasn’t anything to trowel out. Of course, we let things get a bit dryer first.
@tomscott3939
@tomscott3939 Жыл бұрын
i worked at kaiser steel in fontana california an there is no mitaken the smell of mill slag. i think a 6 inch slab is what should have been in the building with rebar!! tom i feel confident that it will be a strong fix!!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@stevenstart8728
@stevenstart8728 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting problem in that building. I'm from Australia and have done more concreting than I like to remember. Your finishing was second to none. We also have expandable soils or as we say highly reactive clays. They are generally black cracking soils. Many foundations and house slabs have broken in half on these soils. We use pre fabricated mesh in slabs and footings in Australia on a lot smaller grid.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Every area seems to have this problem
@kennethfriedrichsen7079
@kennethfriedrichsen7079 Жыл бұрын
We always called it Flyash. It does have expansive qualities as well as some trace environmental issues. Good content. Thx
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kennethfrickey4087
@kennethfrickey4087 Жыл бұрын
Loving the new music…perfect touch.
@michaelvrbanac6923
@michaelvrbanac6923 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Should tape seams. Should double that 6 mil or use 10+ mil vapor barrier. French drain around building may be considered to catch water.
@softballtigers587
@softballtigers587 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from Clemson, South Carolina 🐅
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Morning!
@jacklachman5304
@jacklachman5304 Жыл бұрын
Good morning everyone from Virginia Beach…very interesting video. Thanks again for sharing. Catch ya on the next one Have a Day
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@jamesharless5357
@jamesharless5357 Жыл бұрын
Nice work, Tom, great video!👍🏻
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@robsnyder2461
@robsnyder2461 Жыл бұрын
Its funny, as soon as the truck shows up it kind of looks like a pack of dogs on a three legged cat!!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
That’s what it feels like sometimes
@alisciamarotta3888
@alisciamarotta3888 Жыл бұрын
Tom we call them " job security ". Great job as always!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@stewatparkpark2933
@stewatparkpark2933 Жыл бұрын
The best way to approach this type of job is to get the client to engage a suitably qualified engineer to do the investigation and to design the remedy and to supervise and inspect your work . This way you are just doing what the client requested and the engineering risk is carried by the client and their engineer and not you .
@DFord-qw8ci
@DFord-qw8ci Жыл бұрын
I've been doing a lot of work around Philadelphia. That base is absolutely everywhere here as general fill.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Be careful,lots of drainage
@ralphmckinney9886
@ralphmckinney9886 Жыл бұрын
Coal fired power plants sold that in my area in the 70's to contractors for fill. Coal ash is the mineralized residue left over from burning coal to generate electricity. It's actually a collection of different types of materials, called coal combustion products or coal combustion residuals: fly ash, flue gas desulfurization products, bottom ash, and boiler slag.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Good info
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 Жыл бұрын
With EPA requirements lime is added when burning bituminous coal so it makes a good candidate for making concrete.
@vincenttulli2776
@vincenttulli2776 Жыл бұрын
I love watching true professional work doing it the right way
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@video4belphotos
@video4belphotos Жыл бұрын
Definitely a Five Star presentation. Thanks.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@spaceexposed
@spaceexposed Жыл бұрын
Awesome repair work! Good analysis, expandable soil is a real pain to have under big structures. I was just going to say but you said it, drainage. Spot on Tom! Maybe they should cut a ditch in the back of the building facing the hillside?
@timothychristian9140
@timothychristian9140 Жыл бұрын
There is a gentleman on KZbin that does concrete work. He has a worker by the name of Jim that could probably help you out with your concrete questions 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣.
@alisciamarotta3888
@alisciamarotta3888 Жыл бұрын
I agree, 😂 😂 😂
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Tricky parts getting him to answer his phone ha ha thanks
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior Жыл бұрын
Bentonite in Colorado is the one I’m most curious about. I know basement walls have to be hung from the ceiling joists or walls and are never supposed to be anchored to floor. I’m in Minnesota where basements are a guarantee in every home we just bolt down our bottom plates. We have frost heave but nothing in the ground that heaves. Just rocks under soil here.
@ilkacheel
@ilkacheel Жыл бұрын
Inserting 1/8th plywood into sawcuts will prevent spalling to existing concrete while you break up and remove existing concrete.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Good idea
@caniacstevehenderson7115
@caniacstevehenderson7115 Жыл бұрын
Well done sir!!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dford8874
@dford8874 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a mix of they really believed in the substrate equally to what was readily available.
@jackalopasaurus
@jackalopasaurus Жыл бұрын
Your jack hammer sounds like a Browning M2 .50 cal, lol.
@TheBfor86
@TheBfor86 Жыл бұрын
While you might have some expansive clays in there, the culprit is likely the slag itself. When moisture moves into areas of slag backfill it causes it to corrode and the corrosion causes significant expansion.
@stewartmcardle8149
@stewartmcardle8149 Жыл бұрын
What I find astounding is that the user of the warehouse and not the proprietor, is responsible for the maintenance of the building. Here in the UK it is the proprietor that is responsible for the upkeep, though a number of bad owners don't comply with this ethos.
@GratefulNachos
@GratefulNachos Жыл бұрын
As a geologist who works in the environmental remediation business, this sub-base could be a source of VOCs infiltrating into the building. Especially since you said it had a “smell “. It really should be sampled properly, for your safety and for the employees of the facility.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I can mention it to them
@GratefulNachos
@GratefulNachos Жыл бұрын
@@Concretewiththehauses I think it’s warranted. Your team does great work by the way. Really enjoy your videos.
@iaingibbs9589
@iaingibbs9589 Жыл бұрын
Those men made that finish look easy That is one of the hardest jobs I've ever seen and no of
@3535gt
@3535gt Жыл бұрын
Had a client that after we got to talking, he said he had a career of building mega warehouses. The thing that stuck out to me was that he never used rebar. He said Slabs over 7” thick didn’t need them. If the forklifts started to have issues or the floor started to crack they’d cut it out in 15’ sections and repour. He said his building were acres big. Interesting concept.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I can understand that on the floor that size
@nathandean1687
@nathandean1687 Жыл бұрын
act u want rough edges on a pad. itill help new poured concrete to grip as it forms.
@garybruno4360
@garybruno4360 Жыл бұрын
That is an interesting piece of information, I have a similar situation in an equipment garage on the farm.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Hope it helps
@lhr1701
@lhr1701 Жыл бұрын
Tom I used to work in a mini mill in NJ we made wire. Anyway the slag was sold as fill everyday. It is slimy when wet. But dries hard as concrete. As for why there is water under the slab. My guess is progress and development of the surrounding area. I bet a lot of buildings weren’t there decades ago. So the water doesn’t permeate the ground as it once did. And you know water it will go where it wants to.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
You’re right about that
@kens.3729
@kens.3729 Жыл бұрын
I Watch a Channel, (copperheadmarine) and Charlie treats the Soil on Huge New Warehouse Projects so Slabs can be safely poured without future soil issues. 👍
@philhermetic
@philhermetic Жыл бұрын
is it heaving in the middle, or is it sinking around the edges where all the weight is stacked? when you were attacking the mill slag with the bar it seemed to be very hard, unless it is heaving from water under an underlying clay layer with water under it? tricky problem, especially where the guy doesnt own the building!! Good luck with it. Phil
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Edges look good little is heaving
@kevinraines4318
@kevinraines4318 Жыл бұрын
in the UK we have had the same sort of thing in house's after they used ash slag from making coke in the day we had to dig the lot out some times up to 5 foot deep
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Wow, pricey
@Charlie-go6eb
@Charlie-go6eb Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting the tenant is responsible for a pre existing condition under the guise of maintenance. Luckily we don’t deal with moisture conditions in soil that can cause issue’s around here. Good video.
@jamesyoung4633
@jamesyoung4633 Жыл бұрын
Years ago l put in a service under paved drive way that had slage under it. And it was put there to stabilize the farm soil under it. With out it they claim that pavement would unulate when wet and driven over it.
@mjb12141963
@mjb12141963 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, winter never really quite got here.
@dford8874
@dford8874 Жыл бұрын
I've done repairs as a result of that very same base material.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
It seems to be everywhere
@johnwarwick4105
@johnwarwick4105 Жыл бұрын
No concrete expert here, but I would have expected you to use more rebar after all that work. Those squares look very big. Think most people over here would have used the big mesh sheets with about 8” squares. Interesting to here about the mill slag issue
@Gadeto
@Gadeto Жыл бұрын
In Europe (me from austria) we would use at minimum 2 or maybe 3 layers of rebar with 4" squares. Also concrete with a minimum thickness of 12" at industrial buildings like this. It always makes me smile (or more shocked) when i look at clips where you can see how poorly construction work in the US is done.
@Bluuplanet
@Bluuplanet Жыл бұрын
Other than the odor, your description of the mill slag sounds like the description of clay. They may have similar characteristics under concrete, which would not be good. Clay can grow/shrink up to 11% of it's volume depending on moisture content. That us a HUGE amount!
@uncommonlogic1698
@uncommonlogic1698 Жыл бұрын
Well pits for lowering the water table, sump pump to discharge. Wellpoint soil drying...
@jeffwilson1399
@jeffwilson1399 Жыл бұрын
Not saying that you are incorrect with the assumption that the mill slag is exhibiting expansive properties, but there are other questions that need to be asked and answered to have a definite answer to the floor problem. Right off the bat. . That floor system doesn't look as if was designed to hold the dead weight of material in super sacks or the fork trucks to move them, or the tractor trailer loads being driven on that floor. Too much weight for a 4 to 6" slab of mostly unreinforced concrete. . With no dowel bars to transfer the loads from slab to slab, and extremely large saw cut spacing could all be contributing to this issue. While it's entirely possible that environmental changes in the area causing the ground water to rise. . I would start checking the basics first. . Blocked storm drain. . Broken roof leaders. . etc. Way cheaper to unclog a drain than it is R&R the slab, without even identifying or fixing the original issue. Also worth noting. . That mill slag can be some bad shit. . . It wasn't unheard of for the steel plants to dump the wasted chemicals used to prevent oxidation of the product coming out of the furnace, into the slag pits. Benzene, toluene, and Xylene. . To name a few. So maybe disturbing that shit might not be the greatest idea.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks for sharing
@jamaelmckinney7247
@jamaelmckinney7247 Жыл бұрын
So you don't have the vibration of the hammer what we usually do if cut it up into cubes turn on the size and the weight then find the middle of each cut cube drill the middle anchor it and pull it out in squares what the high low or the bobcat with the chained or metal strap. There's more cutting involved but it is pretty effective and efficient
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I don’t know is it really easier?
@jamaelmckinney7247
@jamaelmckinney7247 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is and you don't have to worry about dust control
@onryboy2264
@onryboy2264 Жыл бұрын
The city of Akron, Ohio uses a lot of the expandable soil for the sewer system as fill around the pipes/hollowed out trees in the 50's and 60's now they are trying to get rid of it the redoing of the lines.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Sounds pricey
@onryboy2264
@onryboy2264 Жыл бұрын
@@Concretewiththehauses between them using what was available to them cheap and the sub-par design of systems that is being addressed at the same time it's coming in at just about $1,5 billion dollars. We have the sanitary sewer and the Storm run off tied together and it's getting into the stream's and rivers.
@madman432000
@madman432000 Жыл бұрын
Where I work they just repair bad floors with blacktop, which doesn't last at all. Forks gouge out troughs and the weight with forklifts creates dips in the surface.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a safety violation
@debbievogt9881
@debbievogt9881 Жыл бұрын
They were having too much fun to share with you
@TimSlowey
@TimSlowey Жыл бұрын
The other issue you need to be aware of is if increased moisture levels caused the soil to raise...what will happen if you enter a very dry period where the moisture will decrease and the underlying soils will shrink. I have personally dealt with numerous events where floors heaved because of a broken water line in expansive soils. To correct that the concrete that is replaced must be capable of fully supporting the floor with zero support underneath (hollow) making it essentially a bridge...something to consider.
@HereticalBuilder
@HereticalBuilder Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video, nice work. Suggestion, hard rock during the time-lapse is hard on the ears. Neutral music works much better.
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 Жыл бұрын
If it was mill slag, why didn't it heave everywhere? Considering that mill slag was probably used on every job back then, are you sure that every problem is blamed on mill slag just because when there's an unrelated failure there just happens to be mill slag underneath? Is there any chance there's a big boulder down there? Usually the gravel base allows for quite a bit of soil expansion because it's a buffer, and it looks like there's enough there. It just seems really weird to me.
@GradertJ
@GradertJ Жыл бұрын
If that building isn't heated they're allowing the water under the slab to freeze and that's causing the frost heaves.
@greggb1416
@greggb1416 Жыл бұрын
Nice work…, loved the information on the “expandable soils”… Tom, how long for cure time on those slabs, given you know the number of forklifts that will be running across as soon as you tell them the time frame..? Hank you sir.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Two weeks for the forklift
@greggb1416
@greggb1416 Жыл бұрын
@@Concretewiththehauses ok, thank you for the reply back.
@andywest3260
@andywest3260 Жыл бұрын
When we lay DPC membrane in the uk we glue the DPC with a water proof double sided tap to the existing concrete tthen you don’t get any coming up though the joints
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
We do that sometimes on our heated floors, but not my common practice
@josephkanowitz6875
@josephkanowitz6875 Жыл бұрын
@@Concretewiththehauses ב''ה, any Radon concerns in your area?
@kevincharlier8324
@kevincharlier8324 Жыл бұрын
This is happening in my basement, it's pushing up on my upper floor and causing problems..
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
It all needs excavated out
@jimmieburleigh9549
@jimmieburleigh9549 Жыл бұрын
Put concrete wire under the re-bar and you can pull the wire as you go instead of using chairs and tripping
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I still like to use chairs when we can
@ronaldpigeon4713
@ronaldpigeon4713 Жыл бұрын
Couple of questions, if they had run rebar would it have lifted that much. I did not see any. If it is caused by moisture, why is it only happening in the middle sections not at the outer perimeter where there would be much more moisture. Was a stem wall installed around the perimeter? If you are getting groundwater a couple feet down, is that not your problem? Pouring over a high moisture/water saturated sub can never be good. It did last a long time under those conditions. Last thing, I have seen pads poured on the ground and were considered floating pads, no issues. Seems that should work granted you provide expansion joints. Thanks for the information.
@williamevans6522
@williamevans6522 Жыл бұрын
Add deep perimeter French drains to stop water (from roof and groundwater) migration under the slab.
@kullervo.
@kullervo. Жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Whitewolf4869
@Whitewolf4869 Жыл бұрын
I saw what the problem was in the first 5 mins. It's the plastic under the concrete. It traps water and then freezes. Never put plastic under concrete that's going to freeze!
@jimharmon3404
@jimharmon3404 Жыл бұрын
After you described the lay of the land there it sounds like your customer has a water problem that should be addressed. The town or a civil engineering firm should advise your customer about installing a french drain and sump system around the outer foundation to prevent water from the hill side from getting under that building. Roof gutters must also drain the roof water far away from the building. I offer this as something to consider. It was fun watching all that work getting done.
@edwardsullivan5481
@edwardsullivan5481 Жыл бұрын
Curious? How did you concluded the mill slag was a part of or big part of the perceived problem? And did you consider that the heaved area may have been harder ground and the adjacent areas had more fill and settled slightly?
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Definitely mill slag, along with some clay took it down as far as I could go not much I could do after that
@edwardsullivan5481
@edwardsullivan5481 Жыл бұрын
@@Concretewiththehauses Yeah I caught that it was mill slag. I'm just not getting how that aggregate was an issue.
@oilhammer04
@oilhammer04 Жыл бұрын
We lived in Jackson, Mississippi where they have an abundance of Yazoo clay, that damages buildings and roads. I-20 is bad in one area in the western part of Jackson.
@gavinsharpe4746
@gavinsharpe4746 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldnt you have a slip joint between the old and new....if you pin them together will the old expand and raise the new?...fill with inert sand on top of a membrane
@grpcchurchnortonva.8024
@grpcchurchnortonva.8024 Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Never heard of this problem!
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@frankcooper6911
@frankcooper6911 Жыл бұрын
I did that . Apartment Sidewalks and Driveways . I was hitting it Hard ! Until my Family found out ! That's when it all went down Hill .
@rickgeller2751
@rickgeller2751 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to drill into existing slab? Using greased dowels for movement issues?
@DR-jo7fg
@DR-jo7fg Жыл бұрын
Hope they don’t expect you to be responsible for the Subgrade being the wrong material. Sand is usually what we used
@stayonit8026
@stayonit8026 Жыл бұрын
The water run off is always a question on the out side perimeter of structure and if your in a frost zone makes all the difference
@TheNikitis
@TheNikitis Жыл бұрын
Question for you. If someone came to you and needed broken up concrete thatyou removed from a job so that person could fill in a road to harden up the soil, would you give it to them?
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
I would have to say yes, because I’m always looking for places to get rid of it
@kevinhall2266
@kevinhall2266 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. That was learn for the day.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@donaldlee6760
@donaldlee6760 Жыл бұрын
At 28:26 - I think you actually mean the silts build up at the base of hills over tens of thousands of years?
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Yes
@guygfm4243
@guygfm4243 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@alansherby4046
@alansherby4046 Жыл бұрын
If you got bad soil wouldn't it settle compared with expansion soil?
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
No, it doesn’t work like that
@rickgeller2751
@rickgeller2751 Жыл бұрын
And please tie a mat of #4 rebar in new slab. It will do wonders.
@Concretewiththehauses
@Concretewiththehauses Жыл бұрын
Wonder if you even watched the video
@rickgeller2751
@rickgeller2751 Жыл бұрын
Whatever state your in you guys are amatuers. First of all if your subgrade is expansive it would swell when concrete was first poured, then as the ground dried the subgrade would shrink, creating voids. Now if their was a rebar mat which their isn't, the slab would move as one piece. Pretty simple stuff. And why are you using a home owners concrete saw on an industrial job? If you want to do things properly, send me a reply and I will guide you on everything concrete. I make it rock hard!!
@shaggyrat2643
@shaggyrat2643 Жыл бұрын
Finger nails to chalk board Only sound that goes threw me and people like me Its the fast forward moment lol Picking up the frag concrete
@genegreear4183
@genegreear4183 Жыл бұрын
You said the water I table was high. Would it have helped the floor to run a drain around the whole building? Say four feet deep just to get rid of the water issue? Thanks later
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