What Is Going On Back There In The Jail - Are They Having A Seminar?

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[@jstittgen]

If I have trouble falling asleep, I would like to enlist the services of the Judge ruling on the deer violation to read my vacuum cleaner's user manual. 😴😴😴

[@kalamalingus]

A good judge is rare. They all seem to bring their personal vendettas to court. If a judge fights with his wife on the morning of your court date, you're FUUUCKED.

[@crispyone2564]

This was a great day for Ignatius. You know he did a little happy dance when he ended that zoom call lol

[@darkangelsoaps8258]

I used to be in law enforcement in Kentucky and the one that always cracked me up was illegal spotlighting for deer was titled molesting deer 😂😂😂😂

[@commandershepard4235]

Is that the only way they have to charge spotlighting in Kentucky?? 😂😂😂 Asking for a friend

[@darkangelsoaps8258]

@@commandershepard4235 haha the first time I saw the charge my first thought was man that guy must be fast! Fast or really quiet tip toeing through the woods lol. But it's just the old school word for bothering or harassing. But it's still hilarious to see that on paper.

[@julianokleby1448]

I am wondering how on earth they figured out the guy got the tags the day after killing the deer? Did he take it to have it processed without a tag so they caught him that way or was he pulled over for something else and they saw it in his truck. So many questions!

[@TheUluxian]

Mr. Fuller's attorney, while trying to do her best for her client, makes the argument that always gets me. "My client is having a hard time because he's in jail!" Well, there's a real simple solution for that.....

[@simonevans8979]

Can't do the time? Don't do the crime. It IS that simple.

[@MichaelVick-uk1wu]

Always reminds me of Liar Liar. Stop breaking the law asshole!!!!!

[@Zamiroh]

I liked Ignatius. He told the truth, and wanted to accept responsibility. Its rare you see that. I would be inclined to give lesser sentences or second chances when I see stuff like that.

[@rynnziolkowski4642]

Absolutely and because he acted like a reasonable person he was rewarded with the knowledge his ticket was dropped and he has no further actions needed

[@MR1964HJM]

And shouldn't the court be held accountable for making that mistake? 🙇‍♀

[@jenniegreene8085]

Thanks, Mike. And on this day, I am remembering those heroes who courageously gave their lives for our country.❤

[@destroyerinazuma96]

The expungement one was depressing.

[@AlbinoWhiteGuy]

Yea if she ends up losing her Nursing career that would be a huge bummer, especially if she really has changed. I wonder if there’s legal recourse for the State’s mistake?

[@hollydennison159]

The woman with the expunged record got screwed a few ways. At this point, she now has to petition for her money back, petition state legislature for new laws to get these charges expunged and then if, IF, that goes through, PAY to FILE and have this expunged AGAIN. That's rough!!

[@loisbolton1800]

Agreed. She should be paid restitution & she should also contact her state legislators for advice & change.

[@julianokleby1448]

But she is still guilty of child abuse. That puts an end to her career path as a CNA (certified nursing aide or nurses' assistant). She will never be hired in a hospital or doctor's office if they do background checks because felonies are always on your record. Her future employers deserve to know what they are hiring. You wouldn't want a person who, say, committed elder or child abuse to watch your mother while you're gone to work, or to watch your child at any day care, would you? It's one thing if you got speeding tickets or a single DUI if you learned your lesson and never do it again. It's another thing if you have committed abuse and still got that child back in your sole custody! Who knows how she is treating them now?

[@jedidaforce2595]

I agree that she should get her money back from the attorney she hired to handle the expungement because he/she should’ve been aware of the law regarding her situation before taking her money, but it’s hard for me to feel bad for her that the conviction will go back on her record without knowing all the facts about the case. Especially since she was convicted of a crime against a child, and it had to be serious enough that the charges were upgraded to a felony, but she is trying to get a job at a school. She may have changed her life around, and to her credit, she completed her probation, got custody of her son, and got an education to better her life, but it’s too risky for a school to hire her. Even with all the positive life changes and staying out of trouble, you never know what can set her off. I looked up the Kansas State Statute, and I’m guessing she either allowed someone to abuse her son, or she was making meth in her home with her kid living there. That’s something a school should know about a person before hiring them, and I’m guessing her job application screening is how they found out that her conviction shouldn’t have been expunged. It sucks for that they granted the expungement and then reversed it, but it’s ultimately her fault for being in that position to begin with. Her life isn’t over. She just needs to find a different career. It’s easier said than done, but she can find a way to overcome this.

[@dougfoster445]

@@julianokleby1448 Eh, I don't agree with ya to a certain extent. If you do your time you essentially have paid for your crime. If society still deems people a danger then they should be in jail. On the other hand, if we are going to put scarlet marks on people then the government should support them financially.

[@Off-HandedBarrel]

@Jedi Da Force "You never know what can set her off." Respectfully, are you kidding me? Putting aside the technicality, a judge granted the expungment. A judge said she completed probation/parole. A judge gave her full custody of a child involved in the felony she was jailed for. She's never re-offended. If she was a danger to anyone, especially children, do you really think they would have let her out of prison? Much less sole custody of a victim of her crime? Come on.

[@ED-es2qv]

I bet if the people getting their records expunged knew they would be confessing on Law Talk with Mike, they would just live with the old records.

[@lianalonge1984]

What a great ending. People can change IF they’re sincere about their wrongdoings and strive not only to better their lives, but the lives of others. I also pray that the girl has been able to live a fulfilling life as well.

[@Momshouseofchaos]

For the 60-ish yo guy who seems to have long-since corrected his life's path, getting that sort of conviction expunged off his record will be worth it some day in the future when his health declines and he finds himself in need of short-term physical rehab or long-term nursing home care. A large percentage of those facilities will not take someone with that type of offense on their record, even if it was 30-40+ yrs ago and even if the person's health & physical capabilities have declined to the point where there is no way they could harm anyone else. It takes our discharge planners days & sometimes weeks to find a facility willing to take the patient that also has bed availability, and oftentimes these places are a couple hours (or more) away, which makes it difficult on the family.

[@awclark3]

My dad had friend that nailed three times shooting deer out of season. Two year later it was discovered he was half Indain and could hunt all year long.😅

[@terriammon9767]

JUDGE WEBSTER IN TEXAS IS AWESOME IN CHILD CUSTODY AS WELL AS VISITATION ISSUES. HE DOES AMAZING WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHILD SUPPORT ♥

[@marciaparent2696]

I am so angry for the lady with the expungement .They didn't give a shit all the money etc should be returned and I would take this to the Supreme court of Kanas. WOW Hands on my heart for the many fallen this is why we can enjoy your show for these brave people who fought for us don't throw these heros away or forget them.

[@julianokleby1448]

Well, since it was a child abuse case, don't you think that any future bosses have the right to know her past? When my husband worked for hospitals, he did a background check on every single applicant. He was very thorough because you can't have a felon working in a hospital where it's too easy to take your anger out on a defenseless, sleeping or comatose patient. Likewise, you can't have thieves working for you because they can steal anything (especially drugs, needles and syringes). He had one guy apply who had admitted to stealing employee cars from the very same hospital he was applying to! Why bother applying? So he could continue to get government benefits. He didn't want to work so he stole cars, then applied at the same business later on after it was on his record. Free room and board in the meantime courtesy of the county jail and the taxpayers. You can't have domestic battery charges or sex crimes of any kind on your record. These are all non-negotiable. So, even though she has full custody of the child she was accused of abusing, it must stay on her record. It's a serious crime! Yes, she should get her money back because they should've known better when they paroled her and given her better information. But it should not come off her record.

[@supercaulin]

She seems to have been found guilty of hurting the child she has custody of. I think the court screwed more than just her expungement up

[@awilkins5827]

Judge Stevens is so condescending…..I love it!!!!😂

[@doilysimpkin6972]

Look at it this way, the lady had the BENEFIT of the expungement of her conviction. She should never have had that benefit and the court is rectifying that mistake. Having said that, i do think she should be given a refund if she spent money on it.

[@niki-smellsgood]

I disagreed with this comment at first BUT, I think you're right.. She was given 4 years without it hanging over her head.

[@doilysimpkin6972]

@@niki-smellsgood Exactly. It shouldn't have happened, granted, and I do think it would be fair to reimburse her any monies she paid for it, but as you say, she had the benefit of it not being on her record for 4 years when it should have been. Not sure what the crime was but it sounds as though it was something to do with her child, so i'm guessing that's why it's not a crime that can be expunged.

[@niki-smellsgood]

@@doilysimpkin6972 yeah, there's a reason the law is written that way... I sort of feel bad for her and she should get her money back but it ends there.. she made the mistake in the first place!

[@doilysimpkin6972]

@@niki-smellsgood Yup! 👍

[@TheRealGrannyWeatherwax]

Somehow I don't think that this is a particularly popular opinion in the comment section, but I also agree with you.

[@pamooconnor8154]

My husband was a graduate from Brown University and a graduate from LSBM the same law school Judge Simpson graduated from. He was a great public defender so much so that inmates scheduled their crimes around his schedule, just saying that most PD are very good, he was a great defender especially for those who had been wrongfully charged, that’s why we have PD’s, not to lie or try to get one over on the courts.

[@kh4652]

Memorial Day is about thanking those who have served and fallen. Veterans Day is for thanking those who have served.

[@theszarahill]

Thanks, I never knew this. In Canada we have Remembrance Day, which I believe is for both.

[@BeckyG-ip2ns]

LOVE Judge Stevens !!!!! He always gets his point across to his unruly students !!!!

[@supercaulin]

Dude hunted and bought a tag the day after. Now he's not allowed to think about deer for like 14 years. How are the laws for hunting so harsh and specific? Dude unprompted, bought the tags the next day.

[@Heavyisthecrown]

Happy to hear aggravated child abuse cannot be exponged. That’s very serious harm not just a slap

[@beckyd712]

*Some things should not be eligible for removal from someone's record; child abuse, SA, R, there are a few things that if perpetrated should be permanent on anyone's record.*

[@marytaylor.57]

Thank you to whomever gave me the free membership.

[@Luvacanuck]

If Russell Crowe and Brendan Fraser had a son…George Brown @ 59:40 mark😂❤️🍁

[@gregorylittle1461]

The final Webber segment was well worth the watch. Great stuff!

[@pyewacketpeggy8329]

Let me get this straight . She works so she doesn’t qualify for a lawyer. She can’t afford one so she represented herself. Four years ago the court said if she paid a fee the charge would be dismissed so she went and paid for schooling for a job she can’t have if the charge was still there. Now they said they made a mistake ZFOUR YESTS AGO and they say tough, it’s still there and she can not get a dime back and there’s nothing she can do because she works and can not afford a lawyer and won’t be given one. What a Karen.

[@2eyecon]

So grateful LTWM! Always fun with all the accidental learning included! Been with ya since very early on and as long as you keep going you'll need a TRO to keep me away!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank you

[@melaniegiguere6588]

"blowing off steam" - what a ridiculous argument.

[@peggyriordan9857]

Mike, did you hear that Manning is no longer Zooming her calls? I heard that from another channel. I hope that's not true. I really liked all of the clips. Sometimes this is nicer than one long hearing. Thanks for doing this on Memorial Day. It's usually a very sad day for me as many of my relatives died in WW2 and Viet Nam. This has raised my spirits, so thanks for that!

[@christiewright1457]

What channel did you hear that on?

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank you

[@peggyriordan9857]

@@christiewright1457 I'm sorry, I can't remember. I watch alot of the channels that show court calls. I'm sorry.

[@christiewright1457]

@@peggyriordan9857 no I get it I watch so many court channels I wouldn’t be able to remember either. I hope it’s not true. I love judge manning

[@Shadingoftheheart]

She was streaming just last week, I'm subbed to her YT channel

[@ingabinga47]

Hey Mike, that was a fabulous collection.

[@kyleparrish2861]

george brown looks like hes posing for an authors photo for the back of his new novel lol

[@brendamorris6475]

I heard you say Saturday Night Live and that quote immediately came to mind. That skit is such genius.

[@kathyhill9078]

This was actually very heartwarning.

[@brendasequin]

Hi, Mike! Walled Lake, Michigan . Love your show.

[@maddieadams75]

Thanks Mike ❤ and your court suppliers ❤

[@KarenJIrvine]

Thank you 🙏 so much for the gift membership! That was so sweet ❤️ you really made my day! Wait my month 😘

[@millenials_best]

This judge is great. His expressions are hilarious

[@user-jl1ev3rj7q]

George Brown looks lile a precious grandson waiting for fresh baked cookies when he leans on his hand

[@MissCarolJWatson]

Look how little that guitar looks behind Ladonna’s head😂😂😂😂

[@MrWolfTickets]

3:01 "...I was gonna say- it's the dog from Inspector Gadget!"

[@luluwales3371]

I really feel for that lady with the expunged mess up. She has obviously been a model citizen for the past 10 years and they have just kicked her hard!! So so wrong. Great live again Mike ❤❤

[@magi267]

Who, or how was it found out that it wasn't supposed to be expunged?

[@bobbiec2829]

​@Stephen Mintz agree! She definitely needs to file a suit. This was a HUGE mess up.

[@mw3309]

@@bobbiec2829 doubt she will win it. Just a gut feeling

[@rossington1680]

I didn’t realize how close the defendant is to Judge Stevens…. It’s like 6’. That would be terrifying to get the business from him from that range!!!😬

[@jautrey2223]

Damn, I missed a great live stream!. Sorry Mike, I'll try to do better! 😅. I found a couple of the cases troubling, the ones dealing with 'errors' that ended up really costing the defendant even beyond completing their debt to society(as given to them by the system). The debt as they understood it. Just shows that our system is far from perfect, and human error is a good portion of that. Mistakes made in your choices can follow you so darn far into your life. Especially now, in this age, I truly hope young people realize this before limiting their futures. Thank goodness Mike is awesome and doesn't let his clients down, of that I'm certain! Right Mike? ;)😊 A big thanks to all that serve! You make us proud, and we owe you a great debt! Thank You!

[@ItIsWhatItIs8120]

It seems that the hardest thing for a human being to do is to keep their mouth shut !😊

[@adrianjanssens7116]

A person appearing in the courtroom seems less impactful because they are a mile away from the camera while those attending on ZOOM are well displayed and seen. Sometimes it's hard to see who is actually talking.

[@jeanneneed]

SNL reference was priceless!

[@jondano8249]

I'm so great with Judge Webster!!!! Professional and to the point!............And another point; How can the victim initiate a call inside jail.

[@emb5048]

Good for Mr. Webber. Nothing but the best.

[@lethalviolet]

I really do feel bad for that lady!! Sounds like she’s tried really hard to turn her life around and the system came in a screwed her. Sucks.. I know I don’t know the back story… but I feel for people who really try to change. Hope she can maybe get legal to help getting the fees back or something!

[@DeviceAnathema]

Doubtful she'll get anything back unfortunately, that's not how it works. Chance she can tap into some programs to help pay for the process moving forward though, all depends on what's available in her area.

[@Bozbaby103]

I’m apologizing now if I offend you, Mike (trolls can go play on a busy interstate), but this needs to be said: while I strongly, STRONGLY appreciate you supporting our military, Memorial Day is not for “all who served”; that is Veterans Day. Memorial Day is to honor those of my brethren who have fallen, to reflect on their sacrifice. We vets absolutely and truly appreciate your thanks and support. Completely and wholly. However, we feel uncomfortable when we are approached on this day to be honored when we are still breathing. Thank and honor the breathing (and no longer breathing) on Veterans Day, but please leave Memorial Day for those who are no longer with us. Thank you with respect. ~ US Navy, Retired

[@edwardranno7119]

Thank you,as a member of the American legion😊

[@SimplyCheryl]

Absolutely!! A lot of people get that confused. Thank you for your service! My entire family are military, so thanks for clarifying. ❤

[@Nursehat]

Very well stated, thank you. Thank you for your service.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

With all due respect I know the difference and I will thank all veterans any damn time I please. Thank you for your service.

[@itsjustlaurel1531]

​@@LawTalkWithMike It's getting spicy in here.

[@beckyd712]

TY Mike. This is one of the few times I've ever heard you say anything positive about a pro se defendant.

[@1gwyntayloe625]

Ms. Overstreet is rather loose with her details sometimes. I'm think that Judge Webster is getting tired of her attitude. There is also another court officer in some of his proceedings I have watched. She doesn't seem to be much better.

[@286seo]

Agreed, she does play loose with case details and often makes seemingly basic errors which Judge Webster seems to relish calling her out on.

[@lazur1]

"I know they're excuses, but they're MY excuses, dammit!"

[@Tedybear315]

Mr. Webber could replace that MicroMachine guy. Wow he's a fast talker.

[@SimplyCheryl]

44:42 they have tablet privileges in jail?? That’s some bs

[@gaileudaly9457]

It was eating my garden! Self defense!

[@ninaolmedo-perez9017]

Oh fun times in Court indeed!

[@zaddyjacquescormery6613]

No, @Law Talk with Mike, you weren’t being naïve or too soft on that guy. Not only did he follow the hardest rule-voluntarily turning himself in-but he traveled to a different state to do it. He’s putting in actual effort to do things correctly. Participating in the system goes a long way with me. He may still be a bad human and do something bad in the future, but unless society wants to freeze him in carbonite like Han Solo, his compliance with the rules is the best possible outcome of the legal system. I wish him luck and hope he keeps doing what he did in the video.

[@PreppingAngel]

Jeez, hunting penalties are higher and tougher than other worse crimes.

[@amber_Forever16]

Wtf man I wanted to watch that full judge Webster hearing!

[@geezus1201]

I agree Mike

[@stephwiller9089]

So don't think child abuse should be allowed to be expunged, so I don't feel bad for her at all. I do think the state should have to pay her back for it.

[@sonyawilson1000]

42:40 Oh dear Lord! No!!!! Not the gut shot 😆. Best law KZbin channel ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@trayjosass]

That lady would of been told you can not hv that criminal record to work as a cna or with children ever !!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes a school will red flag and allow depends on the school most will not !!!!!!!! In court they say at probation no employment with kids or as cna

[@tomd4748]

Duhhhh an expungment means no record is publicly visible, existing only at the DA office- sealed. In such cases you can say you have no criminal charges on your record.

[@alexcartagena1983]

Debbie Schlussel's appearance at around 43 min. here is a bit of cameo. She was a fixture in right wing radio and tv throughout the aughts. This is a "how far they have fallen" moment for anyone annoyed with her weird bigoted media opportunism during the Bush admin and on.

[@mmekenna5925]

She was active as of about 2012, I have a hard time believing she represents or should represent Muslims.

[@Stormingnj]

And oh…..you “may” have this expunged later if the court system is abolished.

[@naysmimi4566]

What concerns me about Mr. Webber is he moved around a lot - and just because he doesn’t have arrests or convictions doesn’t necessarily mean he doesn’t have victims. The girl was 15 and he was 28 - almost double her age when this happened and he couldn’t tell? Maybe I’m jaded because I’m also part of the predator catching community and I hear these excuses all the time. One thing I’ve learned from being part of that community-most of the pedophiles I’ve seen exposed are meth users, the attraction to minors just doesn’t go away one day, and finally there’s only one cure for pedophilia and I can’t say it on here.

[@Cumdown]

Says more about your catchment area than anything else regarding prevalence of meth users. All sorts of weirdos in all walks of life. Catching meth using idiots is the equilavent of falling over and thinking you've caught the earth

[@naysmimi4566]

@@Cumdown I didn’t say all of them - I said a lot of them. It’s just a weird correlation I’ve noticed. The majority of them are either stone cold sober or are bringing weed to the minor. And I’m not a catcher - it’s just a community I support because I hate pedophiles.

[@helenclarke3517]

This Judge Webster = Church Lady SNL. Lol

[@Not_that_kind_of_Dr]

I've taken a couple business law classes, a few educational law classes and watched LTWM for a few months now. Trying to get certified in Pro-Se SovCit jurisprudence so I can run for JP.

[@davident1]

I think Mr. Jennings was going through a drive-thru during court. LOL

[@thedirector1921]

I do think he’s sincere about not wanting to do anything that risks sending him back to jail. Definitely a subtle “I’m getting too old for this nonsense” vibe as well. It’s also nice to see someone who’s using their jailhouse law library knowledge to understand the process and their rights rather than to try and find quasi-sovcit, poorly interpreted, magic loopholes.

[@gregwasserman2635]

What a tasty Memorial Day smorgasbord of law Mike had for us today!

[@octaviasworld3414]

Man shoot 😢I never catch a live. That's ok. I luv the replays. Much luv and success to you Mike. 😊

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Awww😘

[@susanengel-ix8bl]

Is this judge not getting any takers in court??! That's funny!!

[@afishynado6812]

The woman who got screwed with the expungement might be able to apply for a pardon to the Governor. Not sure if it will help her situation.

[@lizzieborden38]

Let’s not forget what the lady with the expunged issue was found guilty of.

[@maritzafernandez5218]

????!!!

[@julesthecat.]

What was it?

[@dormiebasne3578]

​@JulesTheCat aggravated endangerment of a child, to wit, her own.

[@maritzafernandez5218]

@@dormiebasne3578 thank you for your information👍☺️

[@dormiebasne3578]

​@Maritza Fernandez yeah, from reading the statute, it sounds like she either left the kid in a really dangerous situation that involved potential serious injury, or she was bringing them around drugs/people doing drugs. Really surprises me she would still have custody of the kids, but I guess it's next to impossible to permanently remove a mother from her child.

[@wittyedge]

The woman with the expunged record got extremely screwed. That judge blew her off with ZERO regard, but that is the government for you, THEY make the error and come back years later, and it's like "oh well, no biggie, but you're still fucked" have a nice day. I think she should sue the judge and attorney who allowed the expungement because that was clearly a lack of due diligence on their part, and she deserves to be compensated.

[@KatyMontana434]

Well shit I got choked up at the end. Was not expecting that lol

[@NotoriousNewts1]

Recently found your channel, it's hilarious. My favorite content would be seeing cops get torn apart in court, knock some arrogance out of them. I love all the content though. Thanks.

[@joesmith7427]

He's there by special appearance!

[@nunommper]

Ladonna Terrell figure is going to give birth to a lot of internet memes!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ifynwamma]

Mr Webber is bursting with JOY. 😊

[@davident1]

Wait, first his attorney states that the calls were to the sister. Now she states that the calls were ALL initiated by the victim. Can't have it both ways lady. Plus, a no contact order covers both initiating contact by the defendant AND accepting contact from the victim.

[@velociraptor68]

Violation of due process, I am a rock star.

[@rossington1680]

That’s the problem. America is not a land of 2nd chances….. unless you are rich.

[@jacquescousteau6810]

He has a sarcastic and very dry sense of humor but he is HILARIOUS, especially when he is "cranky" as our illustrious host likes to describe him!!!

[@MrJjones543]

It seems like it's better to tell the judge, "you're honor, I fucked up, it's my bad, I am 100% at fault, and I am making no excuses" rather than spin them a tale of woe.

[@ravinhud4979]

Isnt Mike from MI? He knows deer laws, he's having a laugh

[@ellencox8415]

Awwwwww I love a good happy ending!!!

[@coopyduck6901]

Judge didn’t act like he cared about the woman who paid to get her record expunged and it didn’t happen. There should something he could do to help her. Unbelievable

[@VC-gt8fv]

Not much they can do when the state legislature contact them to say its an illegal expunged record. The law doesn’t allow a different decision a judge has to follow the law. Best they can do is advise her to try to claim the money back from the court. She might be able to claim they’re liable as they entered an illegal order which has caused her material damage.

[@BlackHearthguard]

That Mark Webber guy makes my spidey sense tingle... Something's not right there. He knew his victim was under 16, let alone under 18.

[@kyleanderson2949]

agreed

[@OOceaneyess]

I'm here in California and on California time so I always miss LIVE shows. Question. What does it mean to be gifted a membership? I saw that a lot when I see Chat Replays. Thanks anyone in advance for your answer.

[@AlabamaConstitutionalCrusader]

Memorial day is for those who have died in war and as a veteran ... Veterans day is for everyone else .

[@tarabeard]

Mr. Nice-Guy Fast taker Mazda man has some serious teeth!

[@susanengel-ix8bl]

I'm shocked when I see people walking around and stuff, where's the docorum? Judges need to start putting their foot down!!

[@tomd4748]

Settle down 😄

[@kimberlysmith1282]

Spaghetti strap tank and a Newport...that, my friends, is a classy chick!!! 😂😂😂

[@jennifermiller8226]

2 ceilings and a snuggie

[@darcibennett9061]

Hunters are serious. Don't be killing their animals without proper paperwork.

[@starmanjr9179]

The judge in that clip with the smoking woman looked like Colin Robinson.