What Is Going On Here? More Alignment Issues On AMT's 1969 Ford Torino And Is This REALLY A Cobra?

WOW! I don't know where to begin here. Not only is this kit sporting a LOT of confusion, but an identical kit from 4 years earlier has OTHER problems and anomalies itself!
Come with me on this adventure and see what's really going on with the AMT 1969 Ford Torino Cobra Fast Back.

[@smithgroove945]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.Glad to see that I am not the only one that saves whole chrome parts trees. 🎸🤸

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Glad you liked it! This kit gets stranger and stranger as I go along.

[@askoseppanen3779]

Interesting, I believe the big wheel arches are remnants when this car was a modified stocker like the 65'Ford Fairlane and others, those kits have the big slicks. I'm going to get this torino kit for the nascar cars I have been building lately. Thanks for sharing this video Trev, take care and have a nice weekend

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

The rear cut-out lines are actually remnants from the 1968 Dragster kit, as are the chrome plated exhaust dumps. I'm making a full review and build video for this kit, so I've seen a LOT of articles, pictures and videos recently.

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

I like you you real get into you are very helpful you notice a lot I watch you talk about ford cobra

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Glad you like that video series.

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

great job I learn about cobra too thank you monster your funny guy I real like you and you have a great laffe too

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@johngligo4049]

Very good discovery Trevor!

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Hope it helps! there will be a more in-depth video on this soon!

[@johngligo4049]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage Sounds good Trevor!

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@johngligo4049 Working on the script now.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

I think your right about my chassis and yours. As I said,I didn't relocate my front pins. It looks like they have in the mould👍

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Yes, I think we are looking at two different pin locations. At least someone at RC2 looked into that problem. But I don't have one of the newest releases to see what Round 2 did with the mold.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage the white one,I'm using is a 'new' version. The blue one is 91,I think

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@petesmodelcarcustoms584 Yes, I saw in the last video, but to experience an new one first hand is something I need to see.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage see if you can find a second hand/unbuilt kit of the new release 🤔👍. New,I regret buying it,they are not worth the money especially if most fenders are dished in as mine is.

[@mattskustomkreations]

What a goof! No wonder some people were not getting the same results. This kind of thing is So aggravating in general.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Totally. Well, at least I have 2 of these "different kits" so hopefully I can address 2 sets of problems at the same time. Almost like building a "Kit A" and a "Kit B" at the same time.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

We'll have to build them next year or Trevor and battle through the problems together. I love this body style and want to make a decent model from it. It's giving a lot of problems,so I'm going to clear a bit of a back log here first. Our weather has been a killer and my health problems are not helping me get to the bench as much as I like

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

That is too bad for your health. I hope it turns around. Anyway...wait until next year? 🤔 I think I made it so I have to start building one this weekend to fill my curiosity..

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

Yes,I've realised that. And from the comments I've received I think it's best to carry on👍. It would be nice to have solutions to these problems that are easy for anyone to be able to correct their kit without resorting to buying another kit

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@petesmodelcarcustoms584 For sure. And the second issue with a chassis swap is that you have the rest of another car that will forever be incomplete...unless you want to put this chassis underneath the better car.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage that's the downside with any donor.lots of spare parts for other projects. Best done with 2nd hand/ part built donor than buying new

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

you been around awhile you know your stuff about models

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Thank you. I have been building models, primarily cars, since 1982 and I owned a brick and mortar hobby store since 2004, but had to close it and go primarily online in 2021. - So I do know things about the hobby world.

[@Bruces-Eclectic-World]

Wow that is a lot of mucking about with the chassie's... That part trees is so strange. So the question is to Torino Not to Torino... Lol Thanks for sharing the interesting Tomfoolery... LLAP 🖖

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

Have you built one of these,Bruce?

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Good question! I am trying to figure out which car is going to get the Torino treatment. Wish there was a Torino stripe!

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage try STS decals,in the states. Theyve had good reviews and might help. I have no idea on cost

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

There are a few good decal companies that make NASCAR decals and factory decals out there for sure. I wonder if my wholesaler has some? However, I might just hit the good old parts box.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage yes. I try to make do 👍😉

[@gsr4535]

Sweet! 👍

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Thanks for the visit. Hope it helped!

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

Well spotted change on the chrome sprue👍. I've got a Cobra back panel,.I'll check other sprues

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

I am not sure what the new kit has for it's chrome rear bumper. I tend to think that it's back to the Torino on the latest edition.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage it has the waffle panel.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@petesmodelcarcustoms584 Cool...so it's back to being a Torino. The only thing that gets me, however, is that no matter what back end is on the car, the grille is forever a lowly Fairlane 500.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage 🤣🤣what could be done about that. Totally remake the grille with the right amount of thick trim rails and an etched GT badge🤔

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage I've just been looking at a beautiful 69 Torino Cobra. It's fully and accurately restored on a channel called Volo Museum Auto Sales worth looking at

[@brianlewis6926]

I have the newest release of these kit and I have a old chassis, the same as what you have the pins are in different spot, the chassis with the pin in the wrong spot if look at the other side where the screws holes bos are, the pins are not center to those

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

The pins sure are an issue. I'll have to build my kits soon, but I have no logical way to start the video off.

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

they leave up to you to fix it your self that's what modling about

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Yes.

[@timothymelick7085]

For 30 plus buck why didn't they rework the hole rear end and make worth our harded earned money it's like a promo toy you can't raise the rear and put big tires without great deal of work its just a cheaper way to produce a kit maybe it's just sad money down the drain again

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

They are just working off the old mold. Saves them time and money, but I agree...if inflation is driving up the prices of models, we should be getting the quality with the higher price. Sadly, there are more old tools out there than there are new ones. Your best bet is to buy kits from AMT that you know the tools are new, but that means you would be buying car subject matter from 2024. (Modern cars).

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

I think the combination of pegs forward,to the new mould position and redrilling behind axle as the simplest,other than Willi saying make slots,solution. I'm still checking for simple chassis swap but all will need a lot of cutting to fit. I do have a concern about the body of the newest release having a dished in areas in the wheel arch of the left fender. I've seen other builds of it with this problem. I also noticed the massive cut-away line for massive rears. Do you think it's a remnant of the original 68 release?

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

I found the original kit's instructions. It was a choice of factory stock or drag racer, so there was some pretty tall Goodyear Blue Ovals back there.

[@obxbill01]

It appears to me that the rear wheel arch cutout is slightly forward like the faulty chassis is. Very curious.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Probably to make it match. The original kit shows some pretty heafty drag slicks sitting back there, hence the huge cut-outs.

[@brettbuck7362]

But - it's AMT! Of course it is sort of junky, AMT was know for this since I was a kid, and that was a very long time ago.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Depends on what kits you are talking about. But yes, some kits really need help. Same with MPC.

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

looking for a amt 57 Chevy pickup truck grill

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Not available. All my items for sale are on my web store. www.monster-hobbies.ca - I do not have a secret hiden stash of "dream items". I only have what is listed. I am in Canada, so the prices of the model kits are in Canadain dollars, as is the shipping.

[@williwass6837]

The 1990 ERTL edition has the Cobra rear bumper and the Round2 2022 edition has the Torino rear bumper that i have!So they all mixed and matched without caring!But both have the same chassis!Be carefull not to push the chassis too far back,because the rearbumper will not fit anymore!dont push more then 2mm!And beware!The decklid on the side were the Cobra emblem is(right) is half a mm lower then the left side so there will be a gab between rearbumperpart and decklid on the right!And the hole for the left frontwheel has a different height then the right!Aaaaaaand the whole chassis is not really straight!Be very carefull with alligning the engine bay frames to the chassis framesand make sur that it sits in the middle on the back of the chassis(at the rearbumper)This Kit is not that easy to build!It has many 😵‍💫😵 and its very fiddly to make it right!And the newest edition is a flashmonster and has sinkmarks where you dont need it!!Happy building and good luck,Trevor!To you too Pete!

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

Cheers for the further info and your comments,Willi 🍻👍😎. I found that my new chassis is twisted. The right pin doesn't go in all the way,leaving 0.75 mm gap. I'm looking further into grinding part of interior/ floorpan area as I'm still getting 1mm chassis exposed towards the front. I really enjoyed the investigation 👍. Best wishes from jolly old England👍😎 Pete 🤓. I do wish you would post video of your progress 👍👍

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Thank you Williwass6837, and thank you for all the head's up tips. Sounds like there are a lot of them!

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

Willi,on your 2022 release. Is the left fender dished in compared to your 1990?🤔. My new one is😭and I think it might be a common fault🤔

[@williwass6837]

@@petesmodelcarcustoms584 Hey Pete!It seems my body at least in that case has no faults🤣except from the previous mentined flash,sinkmarks and the decklid!!

[@williwass6837]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage Forgot to mention that the when you center the chassis and the frame right,you have to shorten the stub of the right wheelback 1 mm where the bolt is put so that the distance of the wheel to the fender is the same on both sides!

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

I have one for you why dose amt 55pickup truck windshield dose not fit you tell me its a shame oh and the 57 amt are the sam way too

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

They goofed!

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

do you sell parts too monster

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

did you get your hobby shop up and running yet monster please reply you are into this with cobra ford if I have problem would you work with me and help me I love to work with you you get into it you are very interresting

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

By the tine you watch all the Cobra videos, you will know how to build the model. That is why I made them, to help people out.

[@user-wq2uh6wf9e]

a lot of model company are putting out crap and done care any more that's what I think

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Not really. They are just using the molds they have on hand because tooling new ones cost money. However, they do listen to what the modeler wants and many act to bring out what they have in their warehouse for the model builder. There are a few AMT/MPC kits that have issues that should be corrected. The MPC 1967 Pontiac GTO and this AMT Ford Cobra kit are two that really need to be recreated from new steel molds and a good CNC milling machine.

[@petesmodelcarcustoms584]

I'm listen to a Chopin piano concerto don't put up crappy musak I'm a cultured and educated Englishman 🤣

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Ha Ha!

[@carlostoledo7140]

😎👍🏼🛞🚦🏆✅

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Hope this helps you out!

[@PorscheRacer61]

AMT is junk. Change my mind.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

Ok...try the 1962 Ford Thunderbird, 1966 Oldsmobile, 1957 Chrysler 300, or the 1941 Ford Woodie and then get back to me.

[@williwass6837]

Or try the 62 Catalina,the Ford GT/GTA,72 1/2 Camaro!They have a couple of very great kits!BUT you have to watch reviews on the internet to find them!

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@williwass6837 I don't know if we can convince a mind if it is already set, but hopefully all these suggestions will inspire.

[@williwass6837]

@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage For me its an inspiration to make it as good as iam able to do it!Everybody can build perfect kits!But for beginners this kit is a mess!🙃

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@williwass6837 Hopefully my upcoming video can sort out those issues for everyone!

[@mynameisjim48]

Didn't you see my post on your fb about how to fix the rear axle hole?

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

No, I don't know what happened to that.

[@mynameisjim48]

It was a different group It won't let me post on your's

[@mynameisjim48]

I commented on your what's on your bench post with my idea.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@mynameisjim48 Ok, I'll have to look for it.