Agree. When I saw the new info rule, my first thought was, "Now the 'best anglers in the world' can buy fishing spots and show up to those spots with Livescope." How is this even a "sport?" The info rule is very difficult to enforce, so maybe they should just do away with it entirely? What about "all info, no practice?" The NPFL rule limits "live" imaging. If Garmin added a 3 second delay, would they be able to use it? How effective would that be? BASS limited the screens based on diagonal measurement. How long until somebody makes a square, or even circular screen that would have more area for a smaller diagonal? The BPT rule of measuring height makes more sense because that's what matters.
@jeremybassett1232 ай бұрын
Zona got out at the right time. But love to hear y’all two discuss this no info rule and hear his thoughts as well.
@Natureboy1607Ай бұрын
Looks like everyone that is responsible for making this sport what it once was is getting out ! Leaving a bunch of nobody's .
@MrVinced12012 ай бұрын
Todd, again thanks for keeping it real! Why in the hell did BASS announce their schedule for 2025 now? if they would not have announced it until January 2, 2025 then they would not be in this position and it would be easy to police. They could have a polygraph question something like the following for starters, were you given a list of lakes that were to be fished in the 2025 BASS season before January 2, 2025 or did you in any way have knowledge of any of the lakes that were to be fished in the 2025 BASS season prior to January 2 2025. It almost looks like BASS is catering to some group or someone by announcing the schedule like this and allowing people to get information up until January 1 2025. This is such a bad look for BASS. I am not even sure if BASS was to try and walk this decision back now it would make it better for them, it might show even more weakness and indecisiveness. It has got to be the biggest black eye I can ever remember in 40 plus years of following BASS for me. I guess that is why icons of the sport are stepping away like Mark Zona and Rick Clunn because they could see the writing on the wall and they did not want to be any part of it any more. I know KVD was fishing MLF but I am sure it was stuff like this that made him step away from that organization early too.
@Kylewatchesstuff2 ай бұрын
I don’t disagree, just another point of view, the anglers have to make their travel plans for the year too. I do wish they would wait until after the Open’s have finished.
@MrVinced12012 ай бұрын
@@Kylewatchesstuff Well it looks like BASS has listened to what a bad decision they had made and walked back their position on the no information rule to have started today for all BASS Elite anglers and EQ anglers.
@ryanstarzenski30722 ай бұрын
Heck yea! Exciting times. Lol!! I love the fishin videos. But I also love the “what’s goin on in the fishin world” videos!! Looking forward to the podcast with anglers for sure!
@brianabercrombie69992 ай бұрын
FFS to the side….. this new info rule BASS made is absolutely assinine!!!!!!
@Jake-ch6kw2 ай бұрын
B.A.S.S. really messed up with the information rule. It makes zero sense.
@warrenbeard2 ай бұрын
You are 100% right. Bassmaster have lower their standards. I will be watching more League and MLF.
@richardc86952 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the follow up video!
@jeb48362 ай бұрын
National pro bass fishing is dying quickly… imploding. I do blame it on active sonar … it’s a cheat box
@bassman42010002 ай бұрын
Randy is that you???
@jeb48362 ай бұрын
@@bassman4201000 nope. U must be a scooper. It’s not fishing dude. I have FFS Garmin but I would never thing it’s fair to use it in competition. I get out 20 days a year and it makes me find fish quick. But I’m not competing with others for money. Get it ? This is just my opinion not yours obviously. Randy is rediculous
@TexasT732 ай бұрын
Good take, all this is gonna make fishing very intresting
@petecook16112 ай бұрын
I think they should've banned it in the BFL'S atleast for tx days and another thing put a OFF LIMITS ON THE BFL'S!!!!
@phillipbanks13482 ай бұрын
Your spot on!!!!! BASS really jacked it up!!
@johnm26172 ай бұрын
Mlf kinda made it ininteresting! Bass did nothing!! Npfl did totally the correct decision
@maxcole39302 ай бұрын
Their allowed to ask for & buy info now!? That's extremely fucking lame! I agree they no longer should be considered professionals!
@jasonhenson47112 ай бұрын
Todd, the complicated part with MLF Rule isn't in the BPT. It's the rules now with the Toyota series and BFL. Not really the screen height off the deck. But the screen height at rhe console. 16" above the steering column???? Well, what point on the steering column are the measuring from? What if the column tilts? Just a lot, they didn't clarify in that press release. I have a 16" Lowrance at the steering wheel on my 721 Phoenix, and I'm not sure it would be legal.
@toddcastledinefishing59242 ай бұрын
I doubt they’ll even look to be honest
@jasonhenson47112 ай бұрын
@toddcastledinefishing5924 you're probably right, but it would suck to earn a win and then get protested, and it be a half-inch over. It would make zero difference in the fishing aspect. But I would still be breaking a written rule.
@jamescaspersamanthalintner47672 ай бұрын
Amen!
@juleswinnfield8262 ай бұрын
100% agree. Crowd Sourcing is NOT a mark of excellence.
@joewinkler21682 ай бұрын
NPFL is just like your Branden Belt tournaments in Texas. No media coverage no TV coverage. Playoffs mean nothing to a kid that's playing with daddy's money, but a chance at getting on TV or a great media coverages says it all to them.
@kerrycooperfishing27322 ай бұрын
NPFL will get my ratings
@banned4life8572 ай бұрын
You'll be disappointed lol
@johndaniels29222 ай бұрын
Man I agree 💯 percent with you on everything I would love to see what these guys can do without FFS too and would like to see what Ray Scott would say to FFS and I also saw a channel where they asked high school tournament anglers if they would quit or keep fishing if they took FFS away and most said they would quit
@TimL-bk3cx2 ай бұрын
Back in my day Roland Martin hired guys and paid for info! From local guides on Champlain , talk about info!
@russb2962 ай бұрын
@@TimL-bk3cx oh yeah...they also hired pilots to fly over the lakes in small planes.... I'm surprised that you don't hear about guys flying drones over the lakes these days!
@kirkreusch57042 ай бұрын
Info rule in BASS. Lots of money is going to be spent on waypoints between now and December 31st!
@bam132313232 ай бұрын
Just fished a BFL yesterday on Dale hollow and zeroed as a co-angler. My boater live scoped all day offshore in 80-100 feet of water. I even took a nap. Also every boat we passed in the tournament the co angler was doing what I was doing. Sitting down enjoying the weather.
@Natureboy1607Ай бұрын
I would not have signed off on them . If they still require that . Or demand a refund of my entry fee .
@steveahle99212 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the next years BPT events with ! period only with FFS . I think it is the best solution period will allow multiple patterns and strategies!
@basscat21072 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see how the guys from the invitationals that qualified for the BPT next year will do now.
@johncure82682 ай бұрын
I stay completely out of drama, but I am an avid Angler and follow all tournament fishing and have to say BASS has made a few horrible decisions that will hurt their platform drastically.
@donaldgregg78182 ай бұрын
Right, I’m not watching next year either even though they can only use 1 live transducer. I can’t believe Davy Hite was part of that. I bet he would lose his job if he went against the grain so he didn’t.
@kylecurlee280Ай бұрын
I'm ready to get back to more fishing content and less drama content.
@mikerice81852 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to see if they can catch’em. A lot say they can but I just want to see. This information rule that’s just ridiculous.
@jacobanderson41012 ай бұрын
BASS has lost its well-laid mind.
@bitenbassАй бұрын
Agreed bro
@rickhicks65452 ай бұрын
Todd are fishing the costa tournament on grand in October
@joeg17092 ай бұрын
I like that they all have separated themselves with different attitudes toward the ffs stuff. I also feel that Bass wanted the optics of doing something but didn't actually do anything. Which is par for the course for them. Mlf has screwed the pooch on a lot of stuff, but I can get behind all their stuff except I wished they would have the same rules for all 3 of their levels (not counting bfl). And keep HS as no ffs. I really like that part of it. And NPFL, I dig it. Do your own thing and whoever wants to be a part of it, give it a go. I'll be watching.l
@toddcastledinefishing59242 ай бұрын
I agree with all of this
@josephphillips5902 ай бұрын
Best content there is,Todd ,Ish,and Andrew...well maybe not Upshaw😂😂😂😂😂. This group give the best view there is. Just kidding about the Andrew comment he's ok....maybe.
@petecook16112 ай бұрын
BASS just messed it up all around
@chrisfoley33202 ай бұрын
It's a no win situation for the young guys,if they don't catch them every one will say SEE they can only use electronics. If they catch them they want get any praise and ones crying will find something else to cry about. This entire issue is social media driven.
@georgia2thaheart2 ай бұрын
A depth finder only for safety and let the chips fall where they may.. Let's crown 👑 the champion at the end. Extremely simple 👌
@matthewhjort50212 ай бұрын
What’s going on with them? 2 of them finally wised up
@BassKat1692 ай бұрын
High school and college fishing should ban it.
@spencersmith67542 ай бұрын
With all three leagues doing something different maybe we will see what works best. I’ve been bass fishing for 43 years and don’t really care about all the drama but I am curious as to how well the young guys do without ffs. I think the fishermen who live or die by technology are gonna struggle but over time some will figure things out. Unfortunately I think the real drama has just begun
@J_Dover_19872 ай бұрын
Todd we need a update.bass reverted info rule 😆
@tonygreen43562 ай бұрын
BASS has added $$$$ way more $$$$ expenses for there Elite Anglers…
@ronswinford49522 ай бұрын
The information rule BASS put in place is just stupid.
@matthewweimer422 ай бұрын
They are entertainers. Kinda like professional wrestling.
@markeyj32 ай бұрын
Say some names
@DLPfishingАй бұрын
Pretty sure B.A.S.S. will make the right decision and change this rule back to once the schedule goes out is when the lakes is off limit and information but should you say KVD wasn’t a professional when he was paying for information and kicking ass year after year Lol but I agree with you no one should be receiving info find your own fish
@approachingtarget.45032 ай бұрын
5 lures,1 rod, and row boats. Grand prize....a trophy. The more the elite series complain about these new rules, the less they will have.!!! Fishing for a living. That's the top issue. If you want to find gold...dig for it.
@donaldgregg78182 ай бұрын
Wtf are you talking about? Did you just type words and try to form a sentence?
@dirtshallowoutdoors60092 ай бұрын
Let me on a podcast 😂I can be the Fan perspective I will be professional. Not the buying waypoints professional the right kind of professional.
@johnmango60562 ай бұрын
Man I was actually pretty happy with the way BASS,MLF and the NPFL handled the FFS rules…. But this new information rule has pissed me off more than anything I’ve ever seen in “pro” fishing. Absolutely demented.
@billljones9792 ай бұрын
I'm confused about the new no info rule. What changed, asking as someone who just don't know the exact rule, I thought it was no info for 2 months prior. Thx
@toddcastledinefishing59242 ай бұрын
It he always been once the schedule is out no info. This is basically a free for all
@billljones9792 ай бұрын
@toddcastledinefishing5924 thx, that's insane, I got confused on that, cuz I thought it was 3 months from event, but basically people can fish till the season starts, idk anymore Todd, really likes what mlf did, wish bass could somehow implement that, and see who can really catch em, I mean if it were me out there with no ffs, I'm throwing the hybrid hunter all day all year just saying
@allencasal2 ай бұрын
The Elite anglers are not so elite anymore. I would personally be ashamed to be part of such an organization.
@dustinwalker81522 ай бұрын
Bass has been taking it shins all year.
@MJ_Bass2 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with any of the leagues stances on FFS. I think its great for the anglers to have choices to fish how they want. The BASS no info was a massive screw up. They should just do away with no info rather than this halfass rule
@scottclark11682 ай бұрын
Man the fishing industry is some kinda messed up right now,unreal what it's turned into,good for you tube though cause that's all I watch anymore lol,I hate drama and that's all it is,the generation of angler coming up are spoiled rotten,inconsiderate,and really don't care for the sport the way the old timers do,it's hard to watch great video Todd good luck on them birds 👍
@andybrode25072 ай бұрын
BASS should have limited the number of FFS fish in their limit…..like 2 of 5.
@taylorumland3674Ай бұрын
Isn’t the reason for this rule to level the playing field? Before the schedule was officially released slick posted a video that had nearly half of the events correct that they will be coming too. Haven’t anglers been known to gather information on places that they “might” go to? If an angler isn’t part of the rumor mill doesn’t that out him behind the people who are, and was this to level that out? This rule change was such a major disruption in the standard I assumed there was something they were trying to address. I would have preferred them to go the complete opposite way as you said, if you are a professional you cannot gather barter or gather information period. Wouldn’t that be easier to poly for? Why should they ever call anybody and get info?
@joshuanewsome52982 ай бұрын
Yeah whatever on the rules changes. The real story right now is that after at least a year and a half I'm the proud owner of A BUNCH of Owner Haymakers. Finally! 🤓
@toddcastledinefishing59242 ай бұрын
😂😂
@martys48142 ай бұрын
Ban it. It’s the only thing to talk about period. Todd stop wasting your time working both sides. Have some ba--
@johnmango60562 ай бұрын
Maybe u should go read a book. Man I love u Todd 😂😂😂😂
@brianabercrombie69992 ай бұрын
Dude if you had those 6000 waypoints still you could become a super rich man in the next 2-3 months!!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@steveahle99212 ай бұрын
💯
@inaslump2 ай бұрын
What about the guys who live with each other all season,are you saying those guys aren't sharing info with each other? And I git a bridge for sale in the Arizona desert..lol
@fisherman4382 ай бұрын
Okay let me ask you a couple questions. Do you pay attention to dock talk? Would you actually pay for information or waypoints from some guy you have never fished with or never met? I hope not! The Elits that have fished for more than five years probably have more waypoints than they can run on any lake on the schedule this year, there is nothing new.
@toddcastledinefishing59242 ай бұрын
Way off on this take, stay tuned you’ll see
@fisherman4382 ай бұрын
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 oh I’ll be watching I always do.
@jeremyduncan91652 ай бұрын
Read a book go back to school!! I love it.
@russb2962 ай бұрын
Info rule...🤣 Go do it the right way..Spend your time on the water...pre practice...etc... Buying info?? WTF!!! Reminds me of the guys who would hire local guides for Divisional tournaments back in the Federation days!!! Absolute BS!!! If you're too busy to do it the right way maybe you need to spend all your time on what's making you busy because you're passion isn't fishing!!!
@BrianSousa12 ай бұрын
Electronic companies are to blame, give man enough time he’ll screw up a bologna sandwich. It’s called selling your soul to the devil. Money, the root of all evil. Pro Tournament fishing is in a real shitty spot right now, never thought I’d see that.
@jimpowers20472 ай бұрын
destroying modern bass fishing
@russellerney23752 ай бұрын
Pros or angulars aspiring to pro are being penalized. They grew up with the technology and learned how to use it. Now you want to take their form of fishing away. Yet the "old guard" that didn't grow up with it is crying fowl for various reasons. Then fine, due what golf did. Regular tour and a senior tour. Times are changing. Technology is here to stay. You can delay it, but not stop it. I dont agree with a lot of changes in how I have to live life. But I have no choice but to adapt or get left behind. It's the way of the world. Deal with it like everyone else.
@bradmcdaniel96752 ай бұрын
NPFL - great decision - had the gonads to be the ONE to do that - MLF - great decision - mind boggling what the strategy's might be - BASS - said we just gonna be the wild west no real chg to FFS and get info any way you want - very poor decisions ......................
@Lexithegreat2 ай бұрын
Hey its going to be drama from now on.
@ScottieReed-s8f2 ай бұрын
There is nothing elite about somebody else's fishing hole😢. Maybe elite cheaters😅. And shame on the fishing organizations that promote these guys doing it!😮
@RustyWells22 ай бұрын
This channel is becoming the Randy light channel I'll tell you what's wrong with everything these days it's social media and making big money for drama it's infested everything we do nowadays and has caused nothing but hated on both sides from politics to fishing to racing to everything and money and fame is at the root of all of it!
@forrestw19672 ай бұрын
Part of the experience and fun is going to find your own fish. Any "skilled" bass fisherman should be able to direct a water body in a few days of fishing. Spotighters will be writing a bunch of checks! Good luck on the wing shoot!
@StephenByrd-tg7dm2 ай бұрын
Roland Martin made a career out of getting outside info.
@user-iy6rz1eq9x2 ай бұрын
Does anyone actually believe anglers don't get info why does it matter everyone knows the best spots on lakes fish move .I saw if you want to make it fair don't tell them which lake your fishing until 2weeks before...and info Todd for example would dominate on Texas lakes he knows al the juice why should someone who never fished there be at a disadvantage
@joewinkler21682 ай бұрын
The NPFL has eliminated all or for the most part of their future anglers. As all the kids in high school and collage have learned to use FFS. You think they will shell out $5,000 entry for a tournament that they know they can't compete?
@brianabercrombie69992 ай бұрын
Oh, why can’t they compete? They don’t know how to fish without the front looker?
@joewinkler21682 ай бұрын
@@brianabercrombie6999 and thats a fact! FFS is all they know how to fish tournaments. And they could care less if there's any tournaments going on without FFS.
@MJ_Bass2 ай бұрын
While I think its cool that NPFL created a league that bans it, I think you are right. They are alienating a huge portion of young up and coming anglers. Who knows if it will work out for them.
@ThreeBoysFishing2 ай бұрын
Thumb's up you and Randy keep banging the drum it doesn’t belong in any tournament you call yourself a professional fisherman figure it out yourself and live scoping is just a video game sick of seeing it. I don’t even watch anymore big deal no skill just like fishing in a 5 gallon bucket
@swimbaitonaprairie93592 ай бұрын
Bet Wheeler wish he was still fishing BASS😂
@rustyscopano26672 ай бұрын
You act like Wheeler wasn’t smashing it before FFS was ever invented
@BucketMouthFishing232 ай бұрын
@@rustyscopano2667been a long while since he got off the screen, its a crutch now
@kwd12532 ай бұрын
One, you can use ffs in practice in mlf. Two, you came use it in 1 of 3 periods. Three, what makes wheeler dangerous good, he understands what's going on in lakes, river.
@rustyscopano26672 ай бұрын
@@BucketMouthFishing23 I’m pretty sure he hasn’t just magically forgotten everything that made him great beforehand
@ernestcoleman46722 ай бұрын
No. Please. No more podcast. I'm tired
@ronniescott34702 ай бұрын
This shit show is worse than general hospital 😂
@High-techRedneckFishing2 ай бұрын
This is the best comment. Nothing but drama for profit and likes.