What Is Going On With Camila Cabello's "Romance" Era?

[@ithinksamknows7549]

She should just have waited until early 2020 then she should have released My Oh My as the lead single

[@popdissected4400]

Oh, yes! Agreed!

[@mattb1568]

Holy shit, This would have been genius. How sad

[@yomnahassan4174]

Agreed agreed agreed

[@ltmonster8917]

you are right but guess what ? my oh my did well in chart even the view of the audio blow up this week from 7 milion to 20 miilion , so i think it would be in top 10 soon

[@diggidy600]

do you think the movie cinderella she is starring in will do well when its released?

[@fefobobo]

I think Lady Gaga didn’t release LG6 lead in 2019 because Shallow was still charting and didn’t want it to overshadow the new song. Camila should’ve done the same and delayed her romance era

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed!

[@Stormy_Cloud]

One year later, and Shallow is still a good song im not tired of

[@kcchameleonprodz]

Romance should have came out on Valentines Day

[@KingKiaXXVII]

reallyyy LG6 is real?? amen pls""

[@renz6634]

December 2020 and Shallow is still an eternal hit

[@PoojaKunaparaju]

she should've waited until Valentine's Day to release Romance, it would've done AMAZING at that time

[@destiny3992]

Pooja Kunaparaju but I feel like even then it would just be an okay album. The songs are a bit repetitive

[@sarahhudock4720]

Pooja Kunaparaju I could see why that would make sense, but she would’ve had to compete directly with Justin Bieber

[@itsmattq]

i feel like she shouldnt have included senorita on the album and yeah release it on valentines

[@andre6202]

Actually Liar and Shameless were released exactly the same day but Camila didn’t promote any song until months later and then she released Cry for me a week later Easy and decided to promote those songs instead of Liar or Shameless then she announced the cover album and the track list along with Living proof and suddenly she stated promoting that song. I mean this era was a total mess

[@tridayaantapanisd7012]

i see u everywhere, you seem like worrying so much about this flopped era.

[@andre6202]

Tridaya Antapani SD yeah, 😪😭 I’m a sad camilizer

[@imjuxtiinnnn]

Because she's so over confident that her sophomore album could be bop as her first debut album just because of the demand of Señorita song.

[@tb0825]

I think she released too many songs before the album. Shameless and Liar would have been enough

[@Jordan-yv9mr]

J A N J A N and how’d you come to that conclusion? sounds like a load of 💩

[@Bananabean789]

I think My Oh My should be the lead single

[@popdissected4400]

Would have been better than "Liar"!

[@menuchapolter511]

@@popdissected4400 I don't think liar should of been the first single, but in my opinion My Oh My sounds like she's desperately trying to get some of that Havanan success again. I think the first single should have been Living Proof, its different and unique and she should have promoted the S*it out of it, made a more impressive and striking video, waited a bit and the released This Love, another amazing song that would have charted amazingly, then maybe Liar, and maybe shameless.... Probably should have ended with liar.

[@adamwenham3]

Agree my oh my is a bop

[@benzmusiczone]

@@menuchapolter511 You are absolutely right! Living Proof deserved to be lead and it's catchy & unique asf!!!

[@mishamoreno9689]

But my oh my is just on the digital version

[@kevinmeza2344]

I think that "Señorita" was too much, the song is everywhere, everytime and it feels really old right now, people are boring of the same artist and even with the over expose relationship between Camila and Shawn, it's like we are sick of see them or listen to them, plus the promotion of this era is really weak and poor.

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed!!!

[@kevinmeza2344]

@@popdissected4400 It would be great a video about what happened with the Hilary Duff carrear, she is such an icon and more with the Lizie McGuire new season

[@wendyl0v3]

Kevin Meza she got married and had a baby so stopped doing music for a looong time and by the time she cane back she didnt have that much support only from the hardcore fans . Plus her style was 2000’s and nostalgic , now she just wants to do catchy dancy songs. I mean dont get me wrong i loved “all about you “ and “sparks”(until she used to to promote tinder). But there is no substance. Where are the beautiful lyrics? Where is the nostalgia? 🤧🤧 i love her and seeing her on Younger tho.

[@verdeurie8650]

exactly!. dont get me wrong i love camila and her songs. but the whole ''senorita'' and ''shawn x camila'' NEEDS to f*cking stop.

[@Krees82]

Shes having more success with duets and features rather than her own solo stuff like Senorita, South of the Border, Find U Again etc. Too much stuff out there which is overshadowing her own album.

[@powerinhavana3378]

havana, nbts and my oh my are doing great tho

[@powerinhavana3378]

and liar was successful in europe and the uk

[@esml373]

Power in Havana my oh my is a duet with dababy lol

[@powerinhavana3378]

@@esml373 dababy is a feature, the song belongs to Camila.

[@powerinhavana3378]

@@NOCOBE listen you NEED to stop praising a woman while bashing another. It's disgusting and not what Camila stands for.

[@sybil3087]

Personally I believe one of the main reason why her first album was so big is because her management was still riding the fifth harmony wave. Her breakup from fifth harmony was so dramatized and talked about in the media that people just had to look and listen to what she was doing now as a solo artist. Her first album did have quite a few really catchy song but her dramatic leave from 5h definitely caused her album to get so much hype and attention.

[@Anonym-kl9vf]

Yeah, I agree. The same happened with Zayn. His first album was a hit, his second album flopped. Sad but true.

[@user-si6gs3ne8l]

i agree. her management playing the victim card helped her alot but havana was overall a hit

[@guinessbeer]

THIS. You are so right! I hadn’t even thought about this

[@jdaniel4566]

Not at all. She released multiple singles after the 5h breakup & they didn't stick. Her album was big because Havana was crushing records...

[@sybil3087]

Cam Ellis you’re absolutely right Havana did dominate the charts. But I still fully believe that her breakup from 5h helped her get so many views on her first solo album. Up until that point she only made albums with the group and people were curious as to what she had to bring as a solo artist. Also the breakup was so unexpected and dramatized and people couldn’t help but watch it as it all unfolded. But that’s just my opinion.

[@carlos-pj4bz]

I think people are tired of her. She just kept releasing songs until one smashed, and surprise: No one cared. She should’ve let Señorita die, and wait for a while until people were excited to see her again. This whole era just seems rushed, even visually, it’s nothing we haven’t seen already, she just seems lost artistically.

[@popdissected4400]

Exactly! Very true!

[@PRoTECTTHECoVEN]

Before señorita was made, she was already planning on this album. She also made a little video of her singing a song she wrote. I forgot what song that was.

[@Noah-rq3xt]

@@PRoTECTTHECoVEN it was "Easy". Kako's point still stands. everything was rushed

[@PRoTECTTHECoVEN]

@@Noah-rq3xt yeah I agree but in my opinion it was a good decision because a ton of artists are starting they're era in 2020 (Justin,Dua,Niall,Selena,Louis,more) it's hard to compete and the album is not strong enough. But again, I think her purpose isn't about to compete.

[@theloveandcookiesgal]

the thing is, senorita was a pr song and theyre a pr relationship. the whole thing was to build up hype for her new album with the duet and relationship but everyone just started to find them annoying 😭😭

[@xzzedwardzzx1296]

I think she just overexposed herself. People got tired of hearing her voice. If you’re releasing music constantly people will get tired of you. I don’t think her career is necessarily “over” but I do think she’s already declining commercially very early into her career. There wasn’t a mass interest for Romance like there was for her first album. No one was really excited aside from her die hard fans. 54k pure sales isn’t AWFUL, it outsold tell me you love me by Demi lovato, but only 86k with streams is kinda unfortunate given that señorita is a huge song and is on the album and it’s basically the only song most people are streaming from Camila

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed!

[@sarahs7058]

Agreed! I also felt this way about Ariana...too many of her songs on the radio this past year. My brain became saturated from listening to both of these ladies, though I appreciate them both.

[@tejasvipandey]

@@PaolaTheTimeLord lmao....Did u see Harry's second album first week sales ..Comparing it with this mess

[@tejasvipandey]

@@PaolaTheTimeLord 85k💀💀💀💀 Someone's flopping....

[@wendyl0v3]

I agree. She should have waited longer to release. At least February. Señorita is still doing good, No single was going to rise with señorita blocking it and competing against herself . Then her relationship with shawn ( tho i love every single new picture we get) is too out there, they should have given it more time cause ppl are still screaming pr and she is getting so much damn hate it’s overshadowing her music. It’s very sad. She deserved that number 1 ( or at least better numbers), and she definitely doesnt deserve the hate

[@wh0r3chatas]

Her old Tumblr account resurfacing isn't exactly helping this era become something either.

[@popdissected4400]

Yeah....big yikes

[@lujaain645]

Yeah all the racist comments

[@sanselive]

We really don't know what she did in the past about racism but today she is another person as good as the kind of cute girl. We love her even though she has the mistake in her past.🌹💕

[@ithoughtiwouldbeunderstood7050]

no we don’t her apology was surface level, there is no indication she has actually grown as a person

[@mauhuff]

Sansellive Bautista fuck that racist troll and I hope her career continues to suffer. I may forgive her and so may God but karma is a BITCH 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@ToyCircle]

Ugh, she should've promoted Shameless like crazy, that song is so slept on.

[@wendyl0v3]

Specially shameless and liar on those big tv spots she wasted on 4 different songs... snl, ellen, jimmy fallon , tv awards . Imagine shameless ‘ choreo and theatrics on an award show 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ So many missed opportunities. Her team gives her too much freedom. It was her choice to sing cry for me and easy in snl. And surely someone on her team should have said “nope, no more releases, promote shameless and liar until the album comes out”

[@wendyl0v3]

Just look at “graveyard “, halsey has performed it soooo many times im tired of seeing it performed now, but it’s the smart way to do it.

[@lunalovesprocrastination9248]

YESSS

[@satarupagingerkolay]

I know right? That is my favourite song.

[@celebiglives9842]

Exactly

[@tim2497]

She already messed up the Camila era by not releasing She Loves Control as a single, it was a summer smash waiting to happen

[@popdissected4400]

Yesss!

[@2sdm8]

they wanted havana to be the summer smash two years in a row

[@WinterHall]

I don't think she wants to limit herself to just the latin genre (hence not promoting SLC or Liar as singles). But that sound seems to work really well for her with the gp (Havana, Senorita)

[@piorun508]

In The Dark would also be an amazing single! Why tf did she chose Consequences as a single????

[@antonmashkin8580]

Piorun she said that she could release what would be trendy but as an artist she felt the need to put out Consequences as a single. And I’m so here for it!

[@atlas.numberone6534]

the plagiarism alone had twitter cancel her album, and the situation about her using racial slurs and the cheap apology had her whole persona canceled. i dont even know how she's gonna pay the 'arena tour', its too soon for arenas, girl sit down.

[@popdissected4400]

Yeah...I'm not sure how her tour will go. Only time will tell.

[@knorenknor3493]

camila was like 14 lmao. the fact yall think it was an apology to normani is funny to me. those screenshots were still fake. she didnt even know normani when she was 14. stan twitter is just annoying. just enjoy the fucking music geez

[@lilacbp3908]

knorenknor first of all she was 15, second of all we’re talking about her tumblr where she posted racist and degrading “jokes” about black people which she LITTERALLY admitted and apologized for like two days ago. When you apologize for something, that means you admit you did the issue at hand. I’m so tired of non-black people accepting her apology. It wasn’t even for y’all 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@musiclover8594]

@@knorenknor3493 this is why people keep bringing up her racist past. So many people just want everyone to ignore it and move on. I could maybe forgive her if it was one isolated incident but she literally had pattern of racist behavior. Why the hell do you want to support a racist anyway? Are you racist too?

[@avantikaroy5146]

@@knorenknor3493 stfu she was a good 15-16 in her 5h days.

[@wh0r3chatas]

The whole era was super rushed too. It gives way more reason to think that Camila and Shawn's relationship ain't real.

[@popdissected4400]

I agree! You just can't jump into a new record cycle when you have another song you're on overpowering everything else you're doing. And as for the relationship...to each their own 🤷‍♀️

[@Superman-fs5fq]

Don’t make sense they Ben dating for like 7 months senorita hype is over they just like eachother he has since 2015

[@LK-kk4lc]

Zofia Bangs videoz even if it is real, they tried so hard to people see them together that it actually made people sick of them

[@jadam4036]

Taiyah Jackson .... camila would be telling you to eat watermelon and chicken, yet here your BLACK ass is stanning her. I’m confused, y’all really in the sunken place 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@wh0r3chatas]

jada 13 I'm not a fan of hers? What the fuck????

[@Anonymous-xl2mf]

she has A LOT of claims of plagiarism against her so far this early in her era which is turning people off of her because she’s now being called “unoriginal” by a lot of people. And now with all this racist stuff catching up with her... yikes

[@freespeechallowed277]

Anonymous no she doesn’t!! And this things are who she hires for production.... let’s use our heads

[@jamfitraveler8032]

Honestly I dont disagree. I am an avid listener of "oldies" songs like 80's and 90's and some of the rifs on her songs I've heard from a song that I can't remember honestly. But I can't really diasagree nor agree because I am in both sides It's shame thou that she keeps on spitting out these albums they are awesome but PR needs to some really good work on it

[@WinterHall]

the rollout was AWFUL! and it's a shame bc the album is very good. They did the rollout for CC1 so well ! Idk why they wanted to try this new method of not having a specific lead single for CC2 ?!.... My Oh My seems to be taking off. So I've got my fingers crossed for that

[@popdissected4400]

Only time will tell if "My Oh My" will get this era back into shape, so we'll see! And I agree, the rollout has been a literal nightmare.

[@semajhinton1]

1. She should got all her demons off the internet the day she got signed/clean slate. 2. She should have released new music at the top of year 2020. 3. “My oh My” or “Should Have Said It” should have been the 1st single

[@popdissected4400]

All of this -- yes!!! 100%!

[@queenqueen6734]

My oh my was the best song in her album and she should have released it after seniorita

[@95mzwinnie]

Semaj Hinton I’m glad she was exposed as a racist 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@2sdm8]

it doesn't help that her racist and shady past is coming back to haunt her again either.

[@popdissected4400]

Yup!

[@cherokeeheartct8633]

What shady past?

[@marllymbungu1721]

Cynthia Thomas I just leaned about this too. Here’s a link with some racists post she had in her tumblr when she was 15 www.google.com/amp/s/www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/amp30282281/camila-cabello-racist-tumblr-posts-controversy-apology-explained/

[@natsohigh5552]

You say her past, but I can bet it's still apart of her present and future.

[@tinalove4324]

NATsoHIGH ! Factss

[@theakoss]

the layout of romance was ALL wrong. i know camila mentioned she wanted to release multiple songs before her album for whatever reason, but it was so messy. i listened to liar and shameless and then i just stopped caring because she released a new song every week. i think that's what happened to a lot of people. they just didn't care anymore. there was no more hype. also, you can tell that camila wasn't planning on having señorita on her album, but since it did so well and liar didn't, she decided to add it last minute to give the album streams. the entire romance era so far is just so messy. to be honest, señorita kind of ruined it. it was just too big. i personally think it was a mistake for her and shawn to have performed it at the ama's, because it obviously overshadowed her other performance of whatever song she did (sorry i just dont remember lol). camila needed to let señorita die off at the end of summer and should have waited until early next year to start her romance era, so that way people could get and break from her and then become re-interested. she should've dropped a stronger lead single in like february and then released the album in like may or something like that. PLUS, all the r*cist comments resurfacing did her NO favors. now EVERYONE's mad at her (as they should be - what she did was disgusting) so NO ONE will stream or buy her music.

[@xlavenderskies]

Rmo 2000 ppl do care when someone does something racist you can see it with camila. it wasn’t right plus the things she reblogged about rihanna. she’s getting what came to her same with other artists, just bc you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen

[@theakoss]

@Rmo 2000 it is fair, it's just not fair that when some male artists (justin bieber) have said racist things in the past no one hates on them. camila is getting what she deserves, just not everyone else, which is just gross.

[@FLdancer00]

Not to mention all the claims she copied people's work.

[@FLdancer00]

@@theakoss Did you just go on vacation for months after the JB instance? He was dragged to filth for saying it, he's lost fans and he apologized again recently. Camila on the other hand started dating someone who ALSO put the N word on Twitter, soooooo

[@mindicationdisgrace562]

While I understand that people make mistakes, racism is a very big mistake, as it is difficult for people to forgive racist actions/statements. The problem is that she was a new upcoming artist and these allegations decided to show up. Cardi B has said plenty of racist shit and yet she barely receives repercussions. This has almost nothing to do with gender, but everything to do with how famous a celebrity is. The more famous you are, the less consequences you will face. A prime example would be of the R. Kelly pedophilia case, where there was so much evidence against him yet it wasn't until now that people really acted on the evidence (better now than never I guess, he deserves to rot in Hell). Edit: Forgot to mention: She is getting what she deserves, but I wish that celebrities more famous than her would receive such consequences or even worse depending on how far they went. Edit 2: I am a big Camila stan but even I am not deluded into completely defending her every move, especially her mistakes. Seeing things like this is disappointing, and a betrayal to her fans.

[@kevinmeza2344]

You should talk about Katy Perry's new era, it's flopping even worst than Witness ;(

[@thebigreesie]

oh no it’s not an era actually. she’s actually on her album hiatus but she wanted to put out fun experimental music that she liked. she’s been working with several music producers since early 2018 and we never heard any of those songs yet :). i honestly think she knows what she’s doing

[@kevinmeza2344]

@@thebigreesie it doesn't matter, we are talking about Katy Perry, the woman who has 11 number one singles in the Hot 100 and one of the most popular artist in the Pop history and with exception of "Never Really Over", neither small talk or Hayley's in Hawaii hasn't been successful at all, not even closer of the success, she's releasing really good songs but people is not interesting in her anymore, her latest music videos hardly reach 20 million views, it's not about the era, it's about her as an artist.

[@arnaudbrz4161]

@@thebigreesie True, the songs she released this year were experimental songs, and she said she knows what she wants right now for 2020, katy is coming baaaack! ;)

[@popdissected4400]

I did make a video actually that discusses this entire past year for her, and why her releases have been struggling. [ kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWm1pKx-lMl-hpY ] Katy has recently stated this is more or less an experimental time period for her, so she's just trying things out. It's not specifically an era. I believe she's teased a new record in 2020, so we'll all see what happens once that cycle begins!

[@thebigreesie]

Kevin Meza i’m telling you what she herself said in a recent interview. plus you can tell she didn’t care all that much because she didn’t bother to send any song to radios (except for Never Really Over). no true promotion, live televised performances etc. most people don’t even know Small Talk and Harley’s in Hawaii exist (and then there’s several people who only recently found out about Never Really Over). she’s saving the big promotion of her songs next year for her KP5 lead single and album.

[@brandonp8127]

She should’ve made senorita the LEAD. it didn’t even fit on shawns album (which came in 2018) but it fit in with the Latin sound of camilas album. Then she should’ve released Shameless around September as the ONLY other single before the album, promoted that, then released the album in October or November. December is not a good release month ( unless an artist is huge like Beyoncé in that case it doesn’t matter)

[@popdissected4400]

Very good points!

[@tavii2965]

Or Taylor swift

[@musiclover8594]

Harry Styles just released and his album is doing very well.

[@LK-kk4lc]

I agree I was so surprised the song was released by Shawn, it fits Camila way better

[@abygailalonzo1036]

I totally agree but why would you use Beyoncé as an example. Yikes..

[@mik_2087]

I'm so sorry for her.... for me the album is so good, and I don't think this lack of success is due to the songs. It might be just for the bad promotion, it was actually a mess. Liar could've been a hit but señorita was still smashing it, as you said. Shameless is a good song but it's not the smartest choice for a first/second single etc. I think My oh my could save this tragic era, at least I hope so.

[@popdissected4400]

I think it's predominantly poor promotion, a rushed release cycle and the slew of controversy hitting her. With all that, whether the music is good or not doesn't really matter to be honest. But I hope she can still find some success and this doesn't end up derailing her career.

[@sumayasaid3715]

I think the true reason is Karma

[@mauhuff]

Sumaya Said karma 🔥

[@sumayasaid3715]

MONARCA mile Normani didn’t bully her, and if she did she has the right to dislike someone who called her the n* word and let her fans viscously bully her. Camila is a disgusting person and her fans have no morals for thinking her behaviour is ok. Ya’ll are fucked up get help

[@sumayasaid3715]

MONARCA mile Camila DID have to speak up to defend her band mate. All of the other members did. And again, Normani had a right to hate Camila because of the racist things she did towards her. Camila is a flop, Karma for being a racist ass got up to her. Her fans reflect her. Just look at you defending racist actions. No wonder your a fan of her. Your a lowlife that I’m not going to waste my energy on. I’m too above you. Being racist is the worst type of low. Your pathetic. Hope karma gets you too

[@demetrialexi117]

camila used the same pattern when releasing singles for her first album though, she released crying in the club, i have questions, omg, and then havana, when havana was the one to take off, it was the only one to make the album. i think she was trying to replicate the same pattern but none of them took off like havana because they didn’t have enough time, explaining why senorita made the romance track list. i think it was all really rushed as far as the promotion aspect.

[@acebreii988]

Didn't she release OMG and Havana at the same time? She probably thought things would play out like that.

[@demetrialexi117]

Chace Ammons yes!! exactly like shameless and liar

[@wendyl0v3]

No thats not it cuz crying in the club, i have questions, omg, sangria wine disnt make it to the album. The first two were very early on, she was experimenting with her sound. Then with the rest i think She was just releasing stuff that they knew wouldnt make it to the album.

[@jinsstyle]

Am I the only one who was actually excited for romance? I was not actually her fan but I just randomly listened to her songs and liked them. I really loved the album; I love all songs in it. It's one of my fav albums released this year (along with lover and thank you next). But I do agree her promotion was very bad. As you said she should have waited till next year or something. She should have first released my oh my and then shameless. Those songs would have worked so good as singles.

[@lujaain645]

Nah,I thought all the song sounded the same and it was getting repetitive

[@jinsstyle]

@@lujaain645 how can my oh my and feel it twice sound the same?😔

[@lujaain645]

@@jinsstyle I basically mean she never brought anything new and raw and it was the (same old same old)theres nothing that really stood out for me in this album nothing special.

[@jinsstyle]

@@lujaain645 I haven't actually listened to all the songs on her 1st album so I have really no idea if she actually did something new or not on this one😅.

[@lujaain645]

@@jinsstyle she never

[@themedschoollab3782]

I think the problem is Camilla really doesn’t inspire very much reaction out of the general public. She hasn’t done a good job of setting her own unique selling point which means she inadvertently comes across as bland and blends with the dozen other female pop stars.

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed! If you look at the other female pop stars of the early 2010s (Kesha, Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna), they all had their own unique look and brand. Camila doesn't have that, so it makes her not very engaging.

[@danderson8431]

Literally the ONLY thing I know about her is that she was in 5H and she’s with Shawn. That’s it. She’s sexy, I guess... but that’s not a personality.

[@destiny3992]

D Anderson Tbh she’s just mostly known as the havana girl from fifth harmony

[@OYJluv]

This!!! Shes bland AF

[@adelinahysaj2673]

LOLLL THE GP LOVES HER LMFAO 😂😭 have you seen everyone wjen she performsss ??? She is one of the mainstream Popgirls atm

[@kojo9228]

She wasn’t accused of calling Normani the N word she DID do it!

[@bossbabyfuyuhiko6657]

Not even just normani but she called all of the members the n word (which doesn't make sense). She also had a blog dedicated to being racist. And one year her fans were attacking normani and all the bandmates wrote long letters to the fans to stop attacking her, while camila wrote something quick and vague. Why did the rest of fifth harmony check HER fans.

[@sifyh.9561]

Camila never called Normani, or anybody else she knew in real life, the n-word. Those screenshots you saw? They were proven to be fake. She tweeted on her old stan account, calling Obama and George Washington her "n-words" (she meant it in a positive way, she didn't quite get what the n-word meant or she wouldn't have been using it for a white person if she truly was racist), and she reblogged some insensitive and offensive jokes on her old tumblr. Those things are real. The Normani thing is fake, the girls who created those screenshots came out and said so. I'm all for holding people accountable but we have to understand that Camila wasn't racist, she just didn't understand what she was talking about or dealing with. She was a 15 and it's quite clear she didn't hate black people (as even in the stan account tweet she praises Obama, a black man), she just didn't understand how offensive and hurtful those jokes could be. We need to get off our high horses and forgive her, especially since she's already apologized for it for years now, and raised awareness for POC issues. I mean, let's not act like none of us ever made fun of south east Asians for their different eyes and the languages they spoke. Let's not act like we never pulled our eyes back to imitate being east Asian. Let's not act like all of that wasn't racist and we didn't do those things when we were younger and dumber. Let's not be hypocrites.

[@bossbabyfuyuhiko6657]

@@sifyh.9561 That "the dms are fake" bullshit has been proven to be fake as well. Also, camila has never denied that those dms were fake, and owned up to it. Yet y'all defend her. And "she was a kid" is bullshit too because she was FIFTEEN! That wasn't that long ago, as camila is only 22. And that means she was still a racist while in the band (because she joined 5th harmony at 16). Who knows how she was treating the girls behind doors? And what do you have to say for when she didn't defend her fans from racially attacking Normani? Because you can't use the "she was a kid" excuse then. She had countless of post and evidence, this is more than some dumb joke. Numerous of offensive jokes, and not just on tumblr, but on other social media as well. You can't change overnight, that's a product of years and years of racist upbringing. And "she didnt realize how offensive it was", DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF? This is america! By 15, you know what slurs are. She's from miami with a big population of black. SHES NOT STUPID. In order to find all those racist jokes funny, she has to understand the jokes. Meaning she understands how offensive it was. Why do you guys defend this bland and boring person? Her niceness that y'all praise is only a PR stunt, just like her fake ass relationship.

[@mauhuff]

Sify H. Wow 🙄How does Canola’s ass taste because you’re ALL up on it. Stop making excuses for this racist. She knew what she was doing. Stop it.

[@emiliyan285]

well they were bullying her

[@lad9732]

I think the problem boils down to bad PR : 1. The relationship w shawn was great for Señorita but it was timed so poorly everyone speculated it was just a stunt plus the rumours regarding shawns sexuality. 2. The album is BORING and the singles are too. Liar was not a bad choice for a single but poorly timed and tbh as soon as i listened to it I noticed the Karma similarities. However pop music is basically a recycling bin of old sampled melodies and beats so I let it slide. Immediately came Shameless and Easy which were...ok? There is nothing new to them. We have seen Camila do great ballads but these songs had nothing original going for them. And the whole album has this problem. It’s a corny muddy mess of cheesy lyrics with no track exploring the darker sides of love and attraction, etc. Sonically they arent too different either. It also tries very hard to sound sincere and it just feels fake. Like the romance stunt. 3. The era itself had a very rushed artistic vision that did nothing to improve on the adapted material. Inspiration is great but if you don’t build on it...the project will seem dated. And this is what happened. 4. Never addressing the feud with normani until it was too late. Camila is very easy to target on twitter bc of all these allegations of racism as well as being seemingly unaware of her poor dancing abilities. When compared with normani and framed as the aggressor, she becomes the perfect target for bandwagon hate.

[@popdissected4400]

All very good points! I think the controversies more or less can contribute to an album not doing as well as anticipated - more so than the opinion of the record itself.

[@lad9732]

Pop Dissected yeah but in this case despite “good reviews” the songs arent spectacular or new or something that gave her voice maturity, so it’s both elements playing against her.

[@mrkeo0801]

I actually think the album is very very good. I’m quite surprised it didn’t perform well

[@avantikaroy5146]

Bandwagon hate? Bitch she deserves all those hate. Look at the posts she made and not backing normani when HER stans were so racist about normani. She is pathetic.

[@laurenj6802]

Their was never a feud. Name something that normani did to camila.

[@Nowhere6785]

Lack of creativity, plagiarism, a forced cringey relationship and racism are why she flopping. And that's on n-word 💅🏻

[@popdissected4400]

All true 🤷‍♀️

[@thastan4368]

Auguste DM while you’re hating her for “racism”, don’t forget to also go after Justin Bieber. It’s only right to call a spade a spade.

[@ghostin3274]

I think he was younger and the video where he was saying was so fucking hard to look at

[@brandonjohnson582]

Auguste DM period!!!

[@suoutubez19]

Tha Stan what does Justin Bieber have to do with anything? They’re both trash tho

[@PianoHits]

We all know when Camila get's it right, she's onto one of the biggest smashes of the year! but.. Romance was a hard listen for me, the falsetto on alot of the songs was a little uncomfortable on my ears. I don't think it suited her tone or brought out her strengths. I still see her more in her element in Spanish vibes and working with producers looking to push the boundaries within that genre. I like Camila has a human, i think she doesn't have those artistry abilities like Taylor and Lana have to build strong concepts, songwriting and melodies in an entire embodiment of work. I think time can help but it doesn't come naturally for Camila so i hope on the third album she realizes its very important for her to surround herself with people that know how to work her strengths :)

[@user-wd1ze3uc1c]

Her team rushed her into being the “next big thing,” and quite frankly, i don’t think anyone cared from the beginning. If I’m looking for someone new and exciting, I’m not looking at Camilla. The racial slurs don’t help either. Bye girl.

[@popdissected4400]

Ok. Tea.

[@alinaatanasiu7374]

Chris C well I don’t know about u but I’m super excited for everything she brings up from the artistic point of view.. all her live performances stand out :)

[@mauhuff]

Periodt

[@mauhuff]

Alina Atanasiu I disagree. She’s a mediocre singer who cannot dance and also she resembles a rat. Give me Shakira 😍

[@pixybubble]

Camila seems to really like doing double singles tho, she did the same with her first album I personally really like this album, also that jimmy fallon performance of my oh my was one of the best performances I’ve seen in a while

[@Anonym-kl9vf]

*Normani gets bullied and harassed by racist Camilizers* Lauren: *Writes an entire novel to defend her* Camila: yOu dOnt hAve tO hAte on sOmebOdy tO sUppOrt mE Maybe that's why she flopped.

[@anishapal8886]

When did Lauren wrote a novel?

[@anishapal8886]

Lol🤣

[@iris7301]

MONARCA mile you still believe that lie damn you need to wake up

[@anishapal8886]

miles where.. is it in youtube?

[@rotisserie8444]

MONARCA mile girl bye

[@whoszmnwho]

“Accused” of calling Normani a racial slur? She did! Being racist turns a lot of people off and people aren’t going for the “i was just a teenager” excuse especially now that information is so easily accessible.

[@WinterHall]

she never called Normani a racist slur. Those were fake Facebook messages. She apologised for the racist posts she shared to her tumblr in 2012

[@whoszmnwho]

Robbie Newman either way people usually aren’t willing (and don’t have to) accept those apologies. the “i was young” excuse still dosent fly for a lot of people and is a huge turnoff. regardless of where the slurs are aimed.

[@WinterHall]

@@whoszmnwho Camila is about love and equality. Her ignorance as a 13 year old should not define her as a 22 year old woman. The internet are happy to let Justin Bieber, Post Malone & Liam Payne get away with their "racist pasts". Shawn Mendes is excused for his homophobia. Lil Nas is excused for his islamophobia. If she were a man this would be a very different story.

[@whoszmnwho]

Robbie Newman oh please. all of these people get dragged (on twitter anyway) for their pasts. it’s just that cancel culture is ineffective and their fans do not care about their past racist behavior or have chosen to forgive it for themselves. if people choose not to listen to Camilla for those things then it’s THEIR CHOICE period. and the same goes for all of those men.

[@Sol-dw1ew]

@@WinterHall she was older than 13. and she shouldn't get a pass just because she's a woman

[@daviddasom1598]

The resemblance to Caroline Polacheks album artwork with hers really makes me mad. Caroline took YEARS to create her album and make it one of a kind and then Camilla just comes out of no where creating an album in a couple months where she does barely any of the producing or songwriting and flat out copies Caroline’s hard work. (Edit) at least Caroline’s album is good and not radio trash. Srry not srry

[@nuhbudi]

queen caroline i love her

[@popdissected4400]

The resemblance is just...insane. One can't argue its mere coincidence. Girl, something else is going on. It seems Camila didn't even try to make it different or her own. That's just so sad.

[@heyjim9182]

Camila songwrites and produces every single song in collaboration with other producers and songwriters. Don’t discredit her.

[@heyjim9182]

Roger Jaén This is the most subjective and immature response. Some of the lyrics your talking about are written by some of the greats. She writes alongside people like Ed Sheeran, Diplo, Jack Antonoff & more. So I don’t get it ??? Lol

[@Sol-dw1ew]

@@heyjim9182 and still, her songs and visuals resemble other artists' work. the truth is she is not as original as she paints herself to be. even her merch was stolen from halsey's merch, so what is the truth?

[@irenakarani]

Good album bad promo and her racist past didn’t help at all. Simple.

[@DavetheRave35]

There's definitely some truth to the plagiarism claims. The comparisons to Pang and its aesthetics are plain to see. Obviously it's not Camila herself behind it, but this era's creative directors and graphic artists etc - but unfortunately for Camila, whether it was directly her or not, it all reflects on her character and artistry. Anyways, stream Pang by Caroline Polachek.

[@nelson1847]

AOTY wbk ✨

[@selenespoiler]

Honestly am tired of her, she’s had her five minutes of fame. Put someone who’s less manipulative and generic to the spotlight.

[@popdissected4400]

I like her, but I'm not sure what she has that makes her stand out amongst other artists. I mean, to each their own but in a competitive industry like this - if you're not showing individuality and have a distinct personality, you're going to be washed away

[@celebritiessuck441]

The fact that her first songs were released on a Thursday says a lot. And none of them were performed till months later

[@erroreden]

Y’all if she wasn’t a cute girl nobody would tolerate her, her voice just isn’t hitting (imo, I know some people like her) and she’s getting into scandal after scandal I cannot believe people let her be the most famous one of all the girls formerly in 5H

[@theloveandcookiesgal]

she had a whole solo team while in 5h we didnt do it they forced her on us 😭

[@mauhuff]

She’s not cute tho... she’s literally an industry plant who is supported by Latinos (who notoriously support their own no matter HOW trash they are). Also her beard relationship. Still none of this was enough as she may be the most famous yet she’s flopping ungracefully.

[@erroreden]

lotty true 😭

[@erroreden]

Mo Huff I mean she is conventionally attractive, but everything else I totally agree with, anyway everyone needs to stan Normani , Camila has the star power of a cardboard box ( oh wait I just realized the relationship part, I don’t think he’s gay however I don’t believe the relationship is entirely genuine but that may just be my wishful thinking 💀 )

[@alinaatanasiu7374]

Scandal after scandal?? U must be kidding?:)) it is only this racism shit, what other scandals are u talking about? :)) wtf ...she’s got an amazing voice and appearance.. love her live performances sm...

[@girlsforgirls5589]

When Lil bad X made islamophobic comments at 18, people said “He changed and grew.” But when Camila says remarks at 14 she’s labeled racist for life?

[@stella_le]

there's no proof he ran the nasmaraj acct.. meanwhile camila not only says the n word with a hard r she also apparently harassed normani in 5th harmony. that's a tad worse than regurgitating garden variety 'muslim = violent' propaganda on an acct that isn't even confirmed to be his

[@adamwenham3]

All of her lead singles overshadow the following singles and album. Havana and señorita were so big all the other songs didn't have a chance to shine

[@boza4202]

Honestly she dropped SO MANY singles that when her album got released there were only a few songs we haven’t heard

[@michaelvaughn3703]

I personally feel it was all based on lack of consistency. Havana has a very specific style and sound and it worked. People liked it. She should have developed a consistent sound based on that before she started branching out. You have to establish a base so that everybody knows you and your sound before you go wild and experiment. That way when you do experiment people know your voice and your aesthetic and you’re not just a memory or “that Havana girl”. Consistency is key.

[@rachelleelissegillianmerce4263]

Brand image is key too

[@michaelvaughn3703]

Margarita Vasquez Yep! Very true! You have to have one first. She didn’t have that or develop that. That was another problem. I think she’ll be fine. She’s just learning the hard way.

[@rachelleelissegillianmerce4263]

@@michaelvaughn3703 She's definitely learning it the hard way. Before an artist could actually experiment and do stuff, they should have a SOLID BRAND IMAGE. That way, she's still remembered by people, that this is her style, this is her voice. Even if she changes those stuff, at least people will still be able to recognize her, no matter what. The whole thing actually although the album is def nice regardless of the copyright accusations, feels rushed. I think she could've released this next year wherein Senorita died. And could've properly promoted her album more. But nonetheless, no hate, just love. Just an honest opinion of mine.

[@rachelleelissegillianmerce4263]

@@michaelvaughn3703 and yep she'll be fine as long as she properly addresses the controversial issues she's facing rn because that's def a total backlash and will detrimentally affect her second album's success

[@michaelvaughn3703]

Margarita Vasquez This is what’s so weird about the music industry right now. It’s like a messy hodgepodge of just random people all singing. I can’t distinguish anybody a part. They all look and sound the same. I’m 31 and when I was growing up there was a VERY solid distinction between Britney, Jessica, Xtina, Pink. Right now i couldn’t tell you who is who if i heard them on the radio. There’s no brand identity and there’s no aesthetic. It’s just random hipster white girls who sing and post on Instagram. That’s it.

[@popstarevolution9661]

My oh my could be big if she keeps promoting it well and releases a music video it could help this era alot

[@varvarag.6704]

I think this album is pretty good. I actually enjoy every song even though some of them have the same vibe as her old songs but that's okay to me bc the lyrics are unique and they describe specific moments in her life and that's kinda cute and nice. I can personally tell that she put effort into these songs so that's why i like this album. The thing is that the promo is very weird. She is performing liar,easy, living proof, shameless and my oh my all in once in different shows and i think thats pretty bad. She should have put her first single( my oh my in my opinion) in 2020 bc people are sick of her and the reason is Señiorita. She should promo that song and then drop the album after 2-3 months to hype the fans and then drop a promotional song like shameless and then after 4-5 months the next single for example liar and it should continue like that. Now it's just a mess. Many songs were released before the album and many people were disappointed bc we only heard 4-5 new songs in the album. The rest of them were already known and performed so it wasn't that exciting for the fans. Anyway she's really talented i hope the label treat her better

[@biggnome4653]

I don’t even know what her team was thinking they were focusing on wayyyy too many songs to promote

[@arianatortothecore3844]

She released too many singles and they had a lack of promotion. Plus every time she went on a show to perform, she did señorita. My Oh My should’ve been the lead single. Plus it’s a tik tok song. So that will give it some boost. Plus the entire racism scandal is hurting her. She needs to address it without the use of text but a public face to face video.

[@popdissected4400]

True! An Instagram story is so far removed. She needs to post a video online of her apologizing to be taken seriously.

[@etav5248]

@@popdissected4400 no she doesn't, if all the other artists ain't doing it and continue to be ignorant why make her do it for the 3rd time? Plus shes gain followers if anything this didn't hurt her.

[@michaellink7448]

I know it wasn't 2020 yet when this video was released but... + because of COVID-19, the Romance Tour cancelled which possible did affect Romance in one way or another.

[@schleich13ilyan78]

To be honest I really liked Romance and the visuals she served so far BUT she made mistake by releasing too much songs which weren't that good for example Easy is a bad song in my opinion, she also made bad choice on how she decided the singles My Oh My, Should've said it should have been the 2 first singles

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed!

[@satarupagingerkolay]

I feel even Bad Kind of Butterflies would have been a good idea. That is also a good song.

[@tristanyupukoni6453]

i LOVE easy??? i even love it more than shameless.....to be honest she shouldn't released "Living proof" as single, the high pitch through out the whole chorus was HORRIBLE....

[@Edduperez10]

Being honest, if she doesn't sell more than 1 million units of Romance (even though if you buy a ticket for the tour, you get one album copy) in the next 6 months. Her career is in danger.

[@popdissected4400]

I agree. I don't think she will to be honest. The pure sales debut was pretty low. And people don't even buy music anymore. Taylor Swift is the one pop girl who has people BUYING her music by the hundred-thousands. Camila? Is not Taylor. I'd be shocked if the record even sold 500,000 in the next 6 months.

[@Larryboy12345]

The real answer is, she's just another pretty young girl who can sing, but really has nothing special about her, bringing out the same ghost-written pop generica as everyone else.

[@popdissected4400]

Hey all! Just letting anyone watching know I accidentally stated "Liar" and "Shameless" were released a day a part, when they were released on the same day. "Liar" was ANNOUNCED September 4th (alongside "Shameless"), but both released September 5th. I got the dates of the announcement and release mixed up, my apologies all - thank you for bringing it to my attention! Secondly, in regards to Camila's racism, I want to say I did not intend to skim over it nor have it appear I don't care about it. Racism is a very sensitive subject, and a very serious matter. The only reason it was not further elaborated on in this video is because once her tumblr had surfaced, I had finished the video and was only able to include a headline. I promise there was no intention to skim over it.

[@dng03]

the screenshots were true, there are videos

[@popdissected4400]

Okay, are they?? I keep seeing people saying "no they're fake!" and "yes they're real!" And I keep seeing split positions on the matter all over the internet? What is the damn truth?!

[@dng03]

Pop Dissected obviously camila fans are going to claim their false, to me they are true based off the evidence. i think it’s really down to each person to make their own judgement on what they believe because both sides are somewhat justifiable

[@jackyroman557]

Actually the ones where "she" uses the hard R, the user admitted to photoshopping the pictures. For the video, the user admitted to faking it, and as for the others 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@etav5248]

@@popdissected4400 their fake plenty of proof out there tht proves this.

[@WinterHall]

THANK YOU for pronouncing her name correctly!

[@popdissected4400]

I did? I'm glad! I wasn't sure if I was or not!

[@charlienonya7016]

She was overexposed so people wanted reasons to not like her.

[@susancxc691]

Charlie Nonya Even before that I didn’t

[@ghostytoasty5510]

@Angel 505 I think his point is people wouldn't have found those reasons if they didn't hear about her as often. A big thing with cancel culture is going back and digging up shit they did when they were young, even though they have since changed they are still persecuted for a person that they used to be. Not to mention the fact that 15 year old Camila probably didn't know she would be famous and have her life put under a microscope. It's a shitty situation all around and I hope she can make it out the other side, but we'll see.

[@BroadwayLady69]

This just feels like a mix of bad management (what with the singles being released too fast and it being leaked), the copycat thing, and people digging up stuff that happened when she was a teenager when she clearly has learned and grew from the issue. I still hope the album does good enough to get a third album and maybe her team will learn from this.

[@popdissected4400]

Yes! Agreed!

[@sammy1691]

Yeah I agree her being racist is doing her bad

[@isapecosa]

Agree, I love Romance, I think is much better than the first one

[@princesaofjudah]

The same thing that was going on with her “racist” era.

[@d0giem]

she banged dababy

[@tinalove4324]

Chris Breezy bruh what? DaBaby has a child and he wouldn’t hit THAT. I mean he had a whole verse in “cash sh*t”” with Megan thee Stallion and he was talking about smashing her soooo I’m sure he’d rather hit her

[@HiKONiCONiCO]

Really just rushed and brushed through her r*cism. It's really funny what people are willing to let sly through to support her. She made a whole blog to let out the most ugly feelings she had about not only Normani but the Black Community. She is reaping exactly what she deserves especially because this is not her first offence either! "Funny how it all goes down, dont be sorry when it all falls down its like 'Oh my god I think its Karma.' "

[@popdissected4400]

I want to clarify in this video, I didn't intend to seem blase about her racist comments and history. The situation regarding tumblr had just broken out after I finished the video, so without literally disassembling the entire video to include more content, all I put in was a headline regarding it. Believe me, I do not support her racism one bit. I think it's abborhent and the fact she thinks posting an Instagram story resolves it is ridiculous.

[@xjustaprofile]

Karma catched up with her and is gonna drag that joke of an album off the charts

[@unknownuser8896]

Just A Profile even though it’s at number 3 on the billboards charts it’s number 56 on iTunes it gonna take a big drop in billboard next week

[@heyjim9182]

She never said anything about Normani or the black community. She called Barack Obama “Mah N****” So do your research and stop blowing everythjng out of proportion. IF YOU WANT CHANGE, YOU NEED TO ACCEPT IT. Camila is not a child. A 22 year old doesn’t equal a 15 year olds brain. She has apologized more times the last two years for something she said as A MINOR than Eddie Murphy has for degrading the entire LGBTQ+ community as an adult. Ya’ll pick and choose who is cancelled and who isn’t. And most of the people hating on Camila only see this as a win for Normani. It’s all just a competition to you.

[@DayoOgunde]

to be fair the racism scandal only really blew up recently this week and the album has been out since dec 6

[@thatonedude3851]

I think her team let her have too much creative control. Yes good for her but her team should know when to put up limits. Pushing living proof as a single and giving it 3 promo spots was a terrible idea when half of her own fans didn’t even like the song and given that it would never connect with the General public

[@kozmaalexandra]

Thank you for your refreshing approach in your videos. I can feel a genuine interest in investigating the diverse factors and reasons. A flop can mean a drop in sales, and it seems like this is a recurring pattern for a lot of artists. But at the same time a commercial flop does not mean that a creation is a flop. I think the real measure is not commercial, but spiritual, and only the artist can feel whether they were genuine and honest with their art or not. Creating based on what others want, results in losing touch with our soul, purpose and mission AND THAT IS A FLOP. Seems like a lot of people just love criticising what artists and creators create because they cannot create original content. So what is a flop, really? It is purely a matter of perception!!! Anyway, I am not a fan, I was sharing my general point of view. But I love the song Living Proof.

[@popdissected4400]

That's a very interesting perspective, thank you for sharing! Wow! I've never thought of it like that! And thank you for watching, it's very interesting to uncover external factors that affect a record cycle. People focus on "the music is bad" or "the music is good" but I honestly think other things such as poor promotion, bad single choices and / or controversy very much impact a record a lot more than one's own opinion of the music.

[@kozmaalexandra]

@@popdissected4400 Yes, and I think it is also about a time in the artist's life when there are personal struggles, relationship issues, management changes, a disillusionment with the fame culture, when the intial high from being famous is wearing out, so they have to dig deeper for true happiness and contentment. It is very interesting that I discover similar patterns in my own life although I am not famous - thank God. After several socially, financially successful years I have "flop years" recently, but the spiritual growth in my inner world is immense. I feel a new wave of more successful years are coming, even in worldly terms. So all this feels very similar to this rollercoaster ups and downs cycles of many artists. Maybe this is just how it is to be human, and grow. These stars are doing it publicly. It must be so challenging, I imagine. I wish you the best to follow your inspiration! 🌈💕

[@bp2159]

Thank you for talking about this! I’ve been thinking about this a lot because of the horrible promotion and decisions like I wanna know who’s idea it was to put out FIVE single before the record even came out, with almost no promo for any of them plus they were all kinda weak tbh. She’s trying too hard to push herself out there, shame it was so rushed

[@Nia-or1yk]

Do you or anyone else think that her relationship with Shawn Mendes is also affecting her career? Whether it’s publicity or not it’s like they’re shoving it down everyone’s throat and it’s turning people away.

[@wendyl0v3]

It’s not pr but yeah the constant pap pictures is just bringing more hate and affecting the music. I dont know if their team just let the overexposure happen thinking it was gonna help, or the fact neither of them cooks so they go out to eat or have breakfast ( and we cant expect them to stay locked in their room because they are famous, and they deserve to do couple things instead of hide all the time like taylor and joe who we have literally only seen together like 3 times from going from events to the car). But yeah, the overexposure is making ppl think is pr which is not, and bringing more hate to them, and sadly ppl will only realize with time . I just hope her team figures something out to make the hate stop

[@lateralhistory]

Yep! Obvious fake relationship and very annoying. It creates the impression she needed a stunt to sell Romance, that it wasn't good enough on its own. Not a good look on top of everything else

[@lateralhistory]

@@wendyl0v3 oh come on! They're grown adults, they can cook well enough to feed themselves! And if they didn't, there is such a thing as room service. Or take out. Which your personal assistant can be sent to collect. Laying aside all that, everyone knows celebrities call the paparazzi on themselves and this "relationship" was cooked up to promote their duet. It worked, clearly, so now they're dragging it out for the tweens. And the rest of us have to endure it. Joe Alwyn is an obvious beard, but at least he and Taylor Swift are subtle about it, and that's obviously a vastly different situation to just, thirsting for publicity. I root for Taylor to be able to live more authentically (and yearn for the day Pop Dissected can openly discuss those themes in Reputation). Camila and Shawn though, I'm on the fence about.

[@lostinto2838]

Yeah being with shawn Mendes has bad effects ( boy is gay) but she needs him to stay relevant so it's on her she's an adult anyway

[@Thechamac0o0]

Camilla is just the typical singer that put out a hit song that makes billions to then disappear... Nothing new in the music world

[@robertl.2676]

I think due to her playing the SAME cards she did with “Camila” that people lost interest, whenever an artist tries to use the same formula on an album, the album suffers. She should not have included Senorita, being as Shawn used it to hype his album, if she released a different first single (I.E. My Oh My, Cry For Me, First Man, either a bop or a ballad, to catch the listeners attention.) in December not November, Senorita should’ve died out. Her idea for listing was alright, but I think that she could’ve done better, like the slower songs put first to build up to the more catchy up-beat songs, since she wanted to make you feel the album. The videos could’ve been better as well, the looks were good but the Liar video shouldn’t have cut the song off in parts, it was also not too fitting for the song, I get she was a literal liar in the video, but her dying when she speaks the truth is a bit dramatic. Shameless video was alright, I didn’t care for Living Proof’s video, it wasn’t suiting for the song In my opinion.

[@popdissected4400]

Very good points!

[@julianamarie5304]

She needs to apologize to the public in a real video apology first!! There's no just forgetting what she did! She needs to make her racial past right now, by apologizing properly to the people she has hurt, and shows real remorse!! Til then, I hope people stay awat from her music. I was a #1 fan of Camila, but until she makes this right in a genuine manner, I am done with her and her music, and I hope everyone else feels the same!

[@liamo.1451]

She should not have gotten into a clearly fake relationship with a boy who is obviously in the closet, and then proceed to release an album with like sooo many co-writers about her "authentic" feelings of love. Everything comes across as fake and disingenuous, and i think that's why people are thrown off.

[@ghostin3274]

can you come up with something else?

[@boywonder3439]

@@ghostin3274 but they just said the truth?

[@winterbunnygoogie8662]

Can ya’ll fucking stop saying shawn is gay? One- he fucking said he’s not multiple times, and he supports the lgbtq+ community so why would he lie about it? Two- if he were gay, he would never come out because of people like you so obsessed with a stranger’s sexuality and because of how much ya’ll force it on him. Leave the guy alone and let him love who he loves. Fucking disgusting how obsessed ya’ll are with his sexuality that you have no business in

[@ashleymailer6376]

Spillin TheTae yeah they called paparazzi to take those ‘candid’ photos 😂😂 if that’s not a publicity stunt

[@winterbunnygoogie8662]

Ashley Mailer but why do ya’ll care so much if it’s a publicity stunt?! Just let them do their thing! I personally think that they are actually dating, but are over doing it with the pda in front of paparazzi in order to promote senõrita. But like just let them be. Shawn is not gay because he said so, and they are dating because they said so. We should stop prying so much

[@natalyalindo982]

She never let senorita die down, it was so rushed

[@noahxswtiny]

You need more subscribers!! I love your channel and content sm!

[@popdissected4400]

Thank you so much! You're so kind!

[@brandonhawley6420]

Can you please talk about fergie's 2017 album double dutchess

[@vibeology9432]

Brandon Hawley the worst album of the decade. Along with Halsey

[@alexandrebessette4633]

Yessss

[@auandaily]

a flop. no need to make a video about it.

[@salvatiziana854]

I guess it’s because she promoted the album with shawn’s relationship - but they actually EXPLOTE it, they seem to be photographed every time they hang out or something, people got tired of it. Also, some songs are just not it. I mean, it’s subjective, it’s my opinion. I was listening to her first album and i notice how genuine it was, now she’s a typical pop (trap^) singer...

[@nothingnew8770]

*it doesn’t help that the album is mainly forgettable, only two-four songs out of the entire album aren’t...*

[@punicagranatum8414]

I think she’s trying to release songs quickly because she doesn’t want to become irrelevant, like the mistake Katy Perry made, by being in a long hiatus. I saw another video that was talking about Camila also, about how when releasing 2 singles in a short time, you’re setting up for failure. Honestly, feel bad for Camila, it’s like 365 all over again. Informative video, keep it up.

[@popdissected4400]

Thank you for watching! And yes, I think maybe she might have tried to capitalize on the success of "Senorita" and it just backfired because the song was too powerful to compete with - with her OWN music. It sucks, but there should have been some foresight. And speaking of Katy, I think that's why her own "Birthday" didn't do as well as it could have. It released while "Dark Horse" was still huge, and the song had to compete against another one that was much more recognized.

[@alinaatanasiu7374]

South Park Episodes & More what I really like about her is that she works very hard but sometimes can be too much and people cannot enjoy one song at the time, one appearance at a time.. she’s practically everywhere:) I don’t mind but I don’t know about others:)) I would like her to stay more over a song and give the best on it than releasing song after song but with not so much consistency:) the girl has great potential that’s for sure:)

[@plotpersuits]

She is not an artist with identity. Her songs are cool, but there's no difference, it always sounds like she's copying or trying to look like her influences. I don't see her surviving much longer in the industry.

[@user-qe1cn6zj2y]

She realeased shameless and liar at the same time In my opinion romance should have been released like March 2020 and then the tour in like July It all seemed rushed My Oh My Should’ve been the lead single

[@b.f1731]

I feel so bad for her cuz honestly this album is amazing and i feel like everyone didn't really listen to it properly or gave it the attention yhat it deserved

[@popdissected4400]

Yeah, I think the controversy just overshadowed A LOT and really deterred people from even listening to the record 🤷‍♀️

[@Anonym-kl9vf]

This album is everything but not amazing, sorry. The songs are generic and the lyrics have no depth at all. It doesn't surprise me that it flopped and without her song and pr relationship with Shawn Mendes, it would have been worse.

[@b.f1731]

Anonym 99 and i respect ur opinion even though I don't see it the same way, sorry :)

[@lee-zp2mi]

She better pull an ariana and release another album NOW

[@popdissected4400]

That may be a good idea! But if she did so, timing would be crucial. As with "Liar" and "Shameless", they essentially competed against each other. If Camila did release another record, this may be the same issue.

[@aributera4905]

Astrid Rivera Sweetener was a great album. Sweetener is my favorite album by her at the moment. No tears left to cry, God is a woman, Get Well Soon, Breathin, R.E.M. , Everytime, Goodnight n go, Raindrops, Better Off, Blazed, Pete Davidson... Are you sure you don’t like that album? That album is so beautiful and dreamy. ☁️♡🌙🌫💧💡

[@aributera4905]

uq3 qu36 True, but it still did well. Sweetener debuted #1 in the 200 Billboard charts, No tears left to cry debuted #3, God is a woman debuted #8, and Breathin reached #13 . It debuted higher than Dangerous Woman.

[@aributera4905]

uq3 qu36 You’re right.

[@astrid1735]

Ari Butera as I said, it was her worst album, I know she debuted number one and everything, but it was for everything that happened in her life that last time, but Thank u next was so real, it was noticed that she wrote the songs and showed her true self with a melody that she liked and the public too, and that was the subject for which many people didn't like sweetner.

[@boywonder3439]

I also think the album is mediocre. It's not bad at all, she sounds great, production is mostly good and the lyrics are not bad either...but it's just too lackluster. There's no flavor to most of the songs. They all sound the same, and it's not a good sound...there's nothing that stands out besides shameless, this love and maybe my oh my. But the only song I REALLY REALLY like is shameless. It's such a shame (no pun intended) for her to downfall this bad cause I do think she's talented but this entire era & album felt rushed and i feel like she just took advantage of señorita's success and thought the album & the singles were going to be as succesful if she released it at that moment so she rushed everything. I get that every artist in the music industry wants to sell, but that should not be the priority and sadly I think Camila's priority in her entire career is to sell and that's it. And look how it went: really bad. She just should've waited until next year or maybe until she was artistically in a good place to give us the best she could offer, cause I'm SURE this isn't the best she can offer.

[@popdissected4400]

Very good points! And I do agree, it seems the priority is to sell, sell, sell....without any substance. That being said, I don't think her record is bad at all. I just. It's eh.

[@dean.mcmxcvi]

I didn’t know about any of these much less that they were “singles” 😭

[@popdissected4400]

Me either!

[@mikeycap935]

Literally thank u for making this I haven’t even watched it yet but like clicked INSTANTLY

[@popdissected4400]

Thank you so much for watching! You're amazing!

[@dani.f.1264]

I'm not a Camila fan and I don't follow her music at all, but I remember for a while I was just seeing her singles online. I remember thinking, "isn't this a lot?" Because I didn't see any of them topping charts

[@kevinmeza2344]

Please Talk about Victoria Justice, Miranda Cosgrove and Big Time Rush :3

[@popdissected4400]

Great ideas!!! ♥️ 😊

[@pobster88j94]

Kevin Meza who?

[@arisan4483]

Yeahhh, talk about them

[@eliongaro6798]

Racism. That's what's going on. I truly believe people and the whole industry should stop supporting her. I am sorry, but I am so sick of people getting away so easily. I am usually the one to forgive or give people the benefit of the doubt, but regarding Camila, there is not much to defend. She is supposed to be a role model. People (celebrities in particular) demand us to stand up against racism, then turn around and let shit like that slide. You demand us to stand up against racism? Well, sort out your racists first. Start with Camila, Shawn, Justin Bieber and the rest of them.

[@vladSPEARS]

PERIOD. racism isn't something to just ignore, it was disgusting.

[@dannimorton21]

Karma thats whats going on

[@pjpjpjpjpjpjpj]

I liked Romance but I feel like it should've been released next year.

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed! It just felt so rushed in my opinion!

[@Edduperez10]

I don't think so, look, nearly next year Gaga, Ariana, Rihanna, Dua Lipa, Justin, Selena will be realising music in the first 3 months of 2020. So put out music at the same time that them is literally killing the song with the promotion.

[@Tarikkb]

This album is so good artistically , its so raw and full of emotion , but the managment was terrible , she should’ve waited till senorita died and used my oh my as the first single , and should have let it grow till the 2nd single , the managment is is not doing their job well wtf

[@shaunizzkool]

Living Proof and Easy aren’t official singles they were released as Promo singles to promote the album.. For the Romance era she only has 3 official singles released Liar and Shameless. Which was released together. Señorita was the first official single for her album and also a single from Shawn Mendes deluxe edition. Havana was a huge hit but it also wasn’t her debut single either she had released a few songs prior like OMG, Crying In The Club, Havana also took some time to work its way up it was was released 5 months I believe before going number 1. I think why this era isn’t working is the whole sophomore slum sure but she has a very confused image many ppl say she comes off a bit arrogant and full of her self which I mean having a huge hit can do that to you. Her music and sound isn’t very original either I gotta say. She’s good but there’s a dozen of great female artists right there where she is as well.

[@popdissected4400]

Very good points you bring up! And, Señorita, while appearing on her own record, is not officially the lead single off the record. It in fact is "Liar". But, I think she should have just made it her lead single if she was going to include it on her own album as well. Missed opportunity.

[@shaunizzkool]

Pop Dissected I totally agree. It’s a missed opportunity. She also mimics or copies the artists you talked about. Also vocally she was NOT the strongest in fifth harmony but she had the “it factor” and also the youngest I think out of all of them. I feel execs saw that and pushed solo career just cause they felt she was more likable at that time and “safe” When the other girls actually were more talented but didn’t have the confidence it seemed at the time. I believe over time ppl got tired of her. Her departure and silence toward her past group members is also a factor...and and the whole “relationship” with Shawn Mendes as well.

[@popdissected4400]

@@shaunizzkool Very good points!

[@justthenamekevin]

She should’ve waited till señorita died then released liar (preform it and promote it) then wait a couple of months until shameless (more promotion) instead of releasing 4 songs that were in señorita’s shadow and hoping one is a hit. I feel like she rushed all of this out, which wasn’t in her favour. The leak was something completely out of her hands though.

[@Apricotwarrior]

And those racists comments aren’t helping her

[@AA-pk9ur]

I think her team just thought “Oh this single flopped so let’s just rush out another one without promotion!!!” When all she needed were better single choices, not the double release, and less singles with more performances for each one

[@jj00yy]

Twitter is toxic 💯

[@popdissected4400]

Agreed.

[@alinaatanasiu7374]

Oh yes, say it again:))

[@kikib8812]

In my opinion, her music can sound commercial as fuck. Her debut album was okay, but then with romance, it didn't sound very well. To me, it felt like camila hadn't fully tried new sounds just yet. But then again, she's still sorta new as a solo artist.

[@siren7362]

The blatantly fake relationship with Shawn they insist on shoving in our faces doesn't help either.

[@user-dt5cd1eb5c]

Could you please talk about liberation by xtina, how rihanna never flops, lana del rey's consistency, dua lipa's potential in the industry, summary of this decade (fave albums, songs, mv, etc.) etc.

[@popdissected4400]

Wonderful ideas! I was reading about Rihanna last night and found out she's never had a #1 record in the US, but despite that, has had a huge career with a lot of success. So there's definitely a lot to discuss! And I'd love to do another video on Christina, and a new one on Lana. All in good time :)

[@simplyauston4479]

Update on the tour situation: Camila has blocked off the upper level to most of her shows. She has also dropped the prices of her tickets this week. Signs of struggling to sell already

[@mindwiperr7759]

This reminds me of her failed dance challenge. After Havana and Never Be The Same, she released Sangria Wine which totally flopped

[@rapha.grc.98]

I will always say this: SONGS CAN SOUND THE SAME WITHOUT THE INTENTION OF COPYING ANY. Many people can easily call other artists' song as similar to another and the others will already conclude that it is true. It will spread like wildfire and many will believe it. I just don't understand how easy people do that. Music is wide, large and various songs have the same beat and melody. It cannot be avoided considering the fact that, even though not intentionally, many take inspiration from different songs to different genres, either from the past or the present. Artists write their own songs, yes, but the influence from the past will always be a factor in it and some just coincidentally sound the same. It doesn't mean that it is already copied or plagiarized. Same with the album art or the concept. The things they are accusing her are pure childish and very shallow. Those concepts have been around for ages and the artists who have used them don't own them. They were also inspired by past works. It saddens me how these people from different fandoms pull the other artists down. It is unfair and it needs to stop. Camila is a talented artist, a story-teller, a composer. She deserves all the praise, love and support. The industry is just so toxic.

[@lailaguled842]

Raphael Garcia I agree that some of these concepts have been used before and that may not be considered plagiarism. However the Halsey situation is pretty damning. We’re talking everything from merch to multiple uses of artwork. Halsey introduced singles using tarot cards for her era. Camila did the same. One of Camila’s live performances for living proof had dancers in floral blending with the background just weeks after Halsey did the same thing with her graveyard Spotify video. Halsey’s graphic designer has already called out Camila’s and her team and may be on his way to calling for legal action. This industry can be toxic but this may be the clearest case of plagiarism I’ve seen yet.

[@janeryan2709]

A composer LOL. Don't reach.

[@mateo2681]

sayin' this as a complete nooby in how the #industry works: I love how informative these videos are. I have never before in my life thought (or even cared) about singles / promotional releases, and how the campaign surrounding the music affects it, and that whole thing of when to release, why, how, that's so interesting, I don't actually understand it or get it yet, but it's another face of the music industry that's actually very important and I'm learning to care and pay attention to it. As for the album itself, I actually loved it. I've found it diverse, engaging and with a particular texture that I can't define, it sound big and bold, and the tracklist pretty much flows seamlessly (not without its bumps).

[@danimorales3023]

Idk the album just seemed super rushed and the sound isn't really relatable. It's too cheesy for my taste I mean, Taylor swift sings a whole bunch of songs about love and romance, but it's still relatable -- people like it cause the sound is relevant yet evolving. Romance just sounds like she's in her own "shawn mendes bubble" and people are tired of it, i mean we see them making out everywhere and that doesn't help make the album more interesting cause people are already like: "we get it, you're super in love with shawn". It gets boring. The mystery is what sort of sells the songs. It just lacks originality I guess, or maybe I just expected more since she hyped up the album so much. I wish her all the best tho, I hope she finds herself again. I really loved her first album! "All these years" was my favorite.

[@miajames3651]

And who to blame? Roger Gold, aka Camila's manager. I'll tell you EXACTLY why we should be blaming him rather than putting the blame on Camila's shoulder: 1) His team allowed a leak of two songs before 2 weeks of the official release of the album. Viewers knew what to expect from this type of era due to the leak that had happened, including the song "First Man". He's the manager, he's supposed to be the responsible one, not only for camila, but for the whole team. Any leak that happens is 100% Roger's fault along with his team. 2) Roger has been posting the FULL performances of Camila as well as the songs on Instagram rather than giving snippets for people, because YT streams plays a huge role in receiving awards and getting good promotion too. 3) Poor promotion for the whole album. I can guarantee you that they fully depended on this "shawmila" relationship (which I find fake af) in order to get views. They thought this relationship would help in getting the listeners + viewers attention, but oh god how wrong they were. The list goes on. They should've waited till the rise of senorita would end, this just destroyed them. Half of the blame goes to the relationship as well. People (including me) are tired of hearing their relationship whenever she describes one of her songs from this album. She has been including him in every god damn interview, and honestly it's getting out of hands. He has been doing the same too, every q&a he has to include Camila's name in every answer just to fit the narrative of being in real "love". Take Taylor Swift as an example, she did write few songs about her partner, yet, have you ever seen her talking about their relationship 24/7? Absolutely not! Why? Because they're being PRIVATE, and that's something shawmila lacks from. They're giving their fans the content that THEY need, but not the content the rest of the world has to see. Moreover, they're thinking inside the circle, not the outer side. Instead of releasing songs that circles around the singer itself, it's now isolating TWO people, and that's just not it. We wanna hear Camila's music, not about her relationship. And not to forget this point: Camila has been lying about this album for ages. During the era of her 2017 album, "CAMILA", she would describe the album by saying "in real love" or in a "real relationship" yet for this album, she's repeating the same thing and denying what she said from the past! For example, she said that the album "Romance" talks about being in a real relationship "for the first time", but wait.... didn't she say the same thing about "CAMILA"? She's confusing the viewers and giving more than one interpretation which is very hard to some people to be able to understand. Romance flopped because of many things, including her relationship. While in "CAMILA", she was RAW, she was real, most importantly, she didn't fully depend on a relationship with anyone just to get the promotion off of it.

[@bigtyme73]

I know this is an old video, but I am Camila fan and I’ve been wondering when she will release new music. So I decided to come back to re-watch this video to see what was wrong with the “Romance” Era My thoughts are that her label relied on the fact that Camilla released two singles at the same time once before “OMG” and “Havana” and figured that one of the songs would skyrocket or at least semi-sky rocket like Havana did. In my opinion, you can’t always rely on the same thing to work all the time. Also, I think that “Liar” and “Shameless” are great songs. But, to be honest they don’t exactly sound like big singles, And “Liar” didn’t sound like a good first single because there was too many songs that sounded like it at the time. I think Camilla should’ve released “My Oh My” as the lead single since it features DaBaby and he was getting really popular at the time. Then, she should’ve released “Living Proof”as it was a unique sounding song and people sometimes lean towards songs that sound different. Also, she could’ve waited until Valentine’s Day to release the album “Romance” so the title could tile along with the day. Let the success of the album grow, and then release more singles.

[@lexbryann1585]

Idk I feel like there’s a disconnect with the new album. Cause all the singles were thrown in our face along with Shawn mendes romance which is what the whole album is about and it feels like there was this whole length of time inbetween that we are missing between albums.