what is going on with the Mickey Thompson tires?? manufacturing defect? quality control issue?

[@MidwestStreetCarsAuto]

I forgot to mention, on the third set of tires, the driver side date code was 0824 and the passenger side date code was 1324

[@TT64NOVASS]

Sounds like they hand picked the 3rd set to send to you !

[@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808]

Damn… maybe try another brand

[@WalterKoszyk]

Damn chief!! Some bs,right thar! Too many dollas, for blemished shoes! Esp,running shoes,,

[@jtcoker2684]

I have the same tires on my little mustang and noticed the angled, sunk in spot from one side to the other about 8-9 months ago. Just like what you showed in your other video, same thing. I had taken the tires off to work on the car and after I rolled it across the floor, it showed up like a brand new penny. I’m sure that can’t help when you trying to do sub .110 60’ times. I’m gonna go check the numbers on the sidewall

[@mrberg4616]

What your seeing there is the end of the radial cords in the tire. Definitely a quality control issue during manufacturing.

[@PCgonerogue820]

Chief you're hired for the official tire guy

[@jimdandy2275]

Send em SBs back! That 2nd one was out of round circumference wise and had sidewall wobble too, on one side. What a wreck. Jackie don't need to be racing on that unsafe garbage. It's like it was put together with scraps.. Y'all be safe.

[@NonTypicalRacing]

They must figure on the burnout lathe truing it up, 😆.

[@jamieholston4113]

The Hoosier DBR is an excellent tire!

[@Canadianchucknorris69]

I was hoping someone would say that as I have a set coming

[@trophbrwntrouthunter]

The Hoosier and MT are for different surfaces.

[@Canadianchucknorris69]

@@trophbrwntrouthuntertell me more!

[@billmadison2032]

​@@trophbrwntrouthuntersorry about your bubble but you are wrong they both make tires for all aspects of drag racing

[@savagefivenineight9542]

My uncle had the same issue with M/T in his car, it would start to shake and move on the big end of the 1/4 mile. kept adjusting tire pressures and shock adjustments. finally put them on a balancer and that's the same thing we saw. surface nor the side walls were true. never tried the flash light across the side to see a "trough" but now it makes me think. this was a few years ago, he has changed to a Hoosier and problem went away.

[@RonniePTexan]

Good thing that you had the Quality Control Cats there for tire safely!

[@BenjySparky]

Chief and Jackie, y'all rock! That's where they put the tire together. It's at the angle that grove is. Someone has been lacking at catching that seem at Micky Thompson. Well bye, Peace

[@tomwagner1287]

Just sat down for break at work and boom my day just got better!

[@gbrown-diversified]

M/T has been having quality issues on a few of the bias ply slicks also. Switching over to Hoosier

[@racerdoc]

Ive had this issue with their tires for years. I know that not everyone balances slicks but these tires can take ridiculous amounts of weight to balance sometimes because of these sorts of defects.

[@02autogt]

My experience as well...

[@billmadison2032]

I always used Hoosiers, they were better quality yet cheaper and hooked twice as hard

[@TexasDragRacingVideo]

When I worked at my buddies speed shop, we would receive tires that were up to an inch off on circumference. Same spec tire, set it side by side and you could clearly see one tire was taller. So we would do our best to make pairs.

[@NonTypicalRacing]

It happens quick on circumference (stagger).

[@poppastevens8593]

So when that happens you pair the two that are closest to each other use air pressure to make them the same circumference and do a burnout and reset them to the same pressure.you shouldn't have to worry about it again untill you get new tires.

[@trucksofspeed]

You would think that M/T would be calling you guys up taking care of this.

[@justinshearer3016]

but then they would have to admit there is an issue lol

[@markwalker9236]

Their is a issue, drunk stoned or whatever workers that don't care

[@Rebelx251]

@@markwalker9236ahh forgot the illegals

[@NonTypicalRacing]

​@@justinshearer3016 "any suggestions"....internet is a class action's bff!

[@bigbeefjoedaddy]

HIS RIM IS BENT !! lol you guys are not very smart

[@robwigglezz944]

Cmon Mickey, get your shit together. Simple bad QC

[@p-funk2067]

Mickeys been dead

[@richsadventure9736]

I have a good friend that works at Goodyear in Akron Ohio and I have had these issues before when I raced late models on dirt with brand new tires and he told me that they must have had problems in the mold that got overlooked

[@scottlagasse3182]

Looks like belt shift. Load force balancing may help you find a good set. I bet the trough is where the parting line of the tire being assembled in the mold.

[@rpturbo]

I think it's the end of the belt they use, but that shouldn't be showing in any way shape or forum that's for sure. They start and end them on a angle to help offset weight from what I have seen.

[@fastfatboy1]

I work for what was formerly Cooper Tire who was the parent company of Mickey Thompson tires. We were bought out by Goodyear, which in turn means Mickey Thompson was as well. There is no telling what part of the world those tires are made in now.

[@davidg3944]

Formula 1 tires are made in Turkey by Pirelli (who have been owned by the Chinese for roughly a decade). Good and bad tires are made all over...

[@centralohiostreets]

Came here to say just this, unfortunately Goodyear can't make a good tire. In my world we have a saying. "Good Year, good for a year" garbage

[@jamiedainton9423]

Mt drag tyre were made in us haven't been made in UK for years could possibly be the fact the treads were stretched during construction that line could be the joint perhaps if on that production if it was precut for building machines it was either cut to short or if compound was changed could be shrinking more than usual if was cut or machine perhaps to much tension causing stretch just few theory's

[@ThebadMAN747]

Dirt track racer here also man, we've been having lamination problems with our Hoosiers it's really bad. Too much plastic instead of rubber in the tire..

[@justinshearer3016]

plastic??? whoa

[@NonTypicalRacing]

That's ramped in auto repair parts like caliper, balljoint, tie rod boots. They only last 18-24months.....shareholders.

[@Napalms10]

Try the newest hoosier drag radial, there's been alot of success here in Ohio with them.

[@neilorange4112]

Is that what kc max ran a few times and they seemed to work till the side wall got soft

[@Joe.G]

Hell yeah it's Chief and Jackie time. Thank you for putting out a video. Much love and respect to you both ✌️

[@carlw.pfaender9208]

Back in 2019 I went through 2 sets of there Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/R Radial 28X10R15LT. Both sets would start to vibrate so bad I couldn’t go over 50mph on a G body I chased it all summer changing drive shaft, u joints, etc., until I switched tire sides and helped for about 100 miles. They actually discontinued this size on their web page Was a Royal PITA. They honored the warranty and even paid for shipping through JEGS. Went back to BFGs. Never had issues with the M/T drag radial so far but I run a smaller tire. Good luck

[@ls3fox593]

I've had multiple issues with their front tires but not the rears , I usually run the et pro not the bracket radial

[@kevinl.2291]

Awesome let’s go. Thank you Jackie and Chief for another video. 👍😎✌️

[@jasonspeeds1]

I've got an ET Street Pro that I think I'm having the same problem with. I didn't notice it initially, so I thought I had a CV going bad. After going through the entire rear suspension, I still had the same issue. A different set of tires made it all go away. Date code 4123 for the good one and the bad one.

[@1rawdawg007]

For giggles, slap a dial indicator on and check the runout on the wheel with no tire on it to see how much is there. Of course the one tire is junk, the other one could be better. Id keep sending them back so they fix the qc issues. Shipping gets expensive if they have to keep doin it.

[@Bluflash4694]

Had trouble with 28"×4"fronts having pinholes in sidewalls,installed tubes because they had stopped mfg.this size.Man what a pain.Great info.video thanks and keep them coming!

[@mudponyracing]

The Hoosier dr2 works great on less than ideal surfaces. Couple of us run them in Arkansas on streets and no preps

[@jameshumphreys8411]

My buddy has them on his camaro and they work great. I know Randy had good luck with them on the T/A. I think he even ran them on the Mazda

[@ShadyTunedLLC]

+1 for the Hoosier dr2. I run them on my car - way less power than you guys are making, but they hook very well

[@rtz549]

That diagonal low spot could be where the splice is for the layers as they build the tire. If more then one person builds that size; yes the 2 tires will be slightly different between who built them. The tire manufacturer will claim they are the same; but watch videos on how tires are made. It's all done by hand.

[@OutlawChevy2]

Great informational video you two, thanks for making us all a little smarter.

[@mikeacker8644]

Time to change Tire Brands Justin!!

[@PCgonerogue820]

Thank You Miss Jackie and Chief

[@double01red54]

I’ve always noticed when balancing MT’s drag radials how much the tread moves and also the ridiculous amount of weight it takes to balance them. I tried switching to Nittos-they balanced with minimal weight, but just don’t stick as well. It’s time someone put MT on blast for charging us top dollar for tires that look like the belts have shifted.

[@kevinl.2291]

That’s crazy Chief. My buddy has been having same problems with Mickey Thompson on his 55 gasser. Had to send two sets back before getting good ones

[@supertuner5904]

Hey chief... thanks man. We had tire shake bad for the last 2 races in high gear. TT bbc and it was violent. Spun the 315 mickeys and same exact issue. I was pulling my hair out. Bought a set of $4k shocks

[@danieldunham9978]

What you are seeing is the two ends of the layer of rubber that wraps around under the tread is cut at an angle to help it meet up, but it seems like it has pulled apart some when they formed the tire.

[@ChrisMcCutcheon-wj2pp]

Clam shell style mold presses went out 30 yrs ago, segment molds, but yet sum never change

[@d3et1roi3t]

Need to check the run out on that tire. I just went thru a warranty claim for my 2-month-old ET R's. I will say, they warrantied them, even though I thought they weren't going to. They were wore out something fierce for the low miles/passes on them. The vibration was absolutely unacceptable pertaining to my specific tires. There is another parallel line looks like about 1.5" above that line you found. Maybe a seam or something.

[@adamrodgers2377]

Damn!!!! M/T needs to get there shit together. 😮

[@fightingirishhype]

It's a good thing they just raised they prices.

[@Gary-j1c]

Really something to think about...!

[@Peteblz1]

Maybe get in contact with SRC Billy the kid and Tommy 2 guns. They have some decent tire experience. Glad you guys are so honest. Love the content. ❤

[@Drkfrzr11]

I had the same exact problem with the ET Streets. My buddy did with the Radial Pros. But I bought some bias ply ET Drags and they where perfect. It's seems to be just MT radials

[@Otc351]

Have had the same issue. In Australia they cost us heaps, and the quality just isn't there.

[@Corey-xd4kx]

it's crazy that a company selling tires that launch their customers to over 150 mph would let shit like that out the door.

[@jbz8117]

What’s crazy is the fact they know they may be unsafe and still charge an astronomical price for one tire.

[@Rebelx251]

Yall underestimate how shitty corporate America is😂😂😂

[@NonTypicalRacing]

​@@Rebelx251 shareholders are destroying everything. Just had a long talk at the engine machine shop I worked at 20yrs ago...he says it's beyond bad. He showed me stuff that blew my mind. 1 was a set of cam bearings that had >.003" cone to them, that's only over an inch of face!

[@Rebelx251]

@@NonTypicalRacing i believe it my friend, i work as a diesel technician and we send back more new parts then we use. Its pretty sad.

[@johngoodman7160]

Most people won't check the tires good thing for someone like yourself to show it

[@DAKNOCKAHFOREVER]

THE REAL TIRE GUY.. YOU GUYS ARE ROCKSTARS...✨️✨️

[@Johnathon_Jackson]

As expensive as these are now days I’d be calling M/T and demanding to speak to someone who could get me free sets for a few years. QC in a product like this is a life or death situation when a tire fails at high speeds. Luckily you and Jackie are doing your due diligence and checking this stuff before making a lick. Love y’all’s content and thank you!

[@Hjfvvdst]

That first tire has a wobble. The second one has more wobble and it's shaped like an egg. Wow! Thats a huge groove like the cords are jacked up.Those are good showroom tires. But as far as racing? I'm going with no.

[@slimj091]

Looks more wobbly than me shuffling down the street to get an ice cream.

[@CaptainCarbon]

Check the full DOT on all four tires. Would be interesting to see the mould and factory codes to see if there is a relation between all four products.

[@TennTitans]

Try the Hoosier drag bracket radial. It’s a radial tire but has a little more soft area of sidewall than the Mickey’s. They act little more like a slick than a radial. They are Hoosiers second softest compound. Dbr compound.

[@Cmcdaniel4879]

As a ex tire builder I can tell you that is a belt that has a separation inside the tire before the tread was put on. Probably didn’t lay the belt down properly. What’s the U code on the side of the tire it will tell where it was made what country and what plant. ?

[@justinshearer3016]

i didnt know that about the u code, ill have to check them out! Im sure mickey thompson tires knows about the issue, i just wish we didnt have to go thru all of this especially how expensive the tires are and the dangers involved if they have an issue downtrack.

[@Cmcdaniel4879]

@@justinshearer3016 I’m wondering if these tires aren’t being made overseas I’ve seen a lot of no compliant tries in the us coming from overseas. DOT is definitely not doing their job. But that is definitely a steel belt separation there and it is not good.

[@dlbreeden21]

I was gonna say looks like an open Splice in the belt package. I didn't build tires but I was an engineer who programmed the machines. We had to install laser measurement systems to detect this failure. The tires would be reworked or scrapped if they had too much radial runout. We did truck and bus radials but it's the same type of construction. I could catch that defect in production for a nominal fee of course... lol. Good luck getting a good set.

[@Cmcdaniel4879]

@@dlbreeden21 we have finishing inspectors and specialty inspections that would have caught that. That was tire builder either being lazy and not caring how he laid the belts or a rookie not knowing any better. Still should have never made it past finishing

[@Forgotten_legends88]

That the section where the layers overlap each other. There a video how Mickey Thomas make there tire

[@cotymiller]

try some Phoenix Drag Radials or Slicks??...they are a decent no-prep tire Billy had some on his S-10 as well and he liked them on certain surfaces!🤔

[@PgUpPerformance]

Give the Hoosier DR2 a try, very compliant sidewall

[@caputo4141]

Very interesting. I bracket race using a MT pro bracket radial too it’s a 26/10 and they don’t make them anymore. Got them in 2022 lots of runs so after the season is over I’m going to try the Hoosier bracket radials

[@eddie3489]

There is so many small tire races every weekend!! I’m sure tire manufacturers are pumping 10.5’s out like crazy! Quality control probably has went down!

[@StickA-yd4fp]

This would be my guess.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

Interco makes the M&H tires still. Wonder if they're a decent alternative? Yeah, the Super Swamper company make drag tires. lol

[@codymarandola3164]

Favorite watch time of the week!!

[@jameshumphreys8411]

The 275 hoosier DR2 has been a great tire for a few people I know, and that's what I plan to put on my truck when I get a new set of tires

[@chucklyons454]

i just had a problem with MT drag radials. top end tire shake i even road force balanced them they replaced the tires. second set was better.

[@SSstreetracing.5992]

I don’t make a whole lot of power so my tire suggestion may not apply what so ever, but I have an ET street R that I like a lot, I don’t need a giant burnout for it to get tacky and its worked on every road surface I’ve tried it on so far. Wears good too. But at this point I’m sure your kinda done with Mickey for a while.

[@tr4v159153]

Wild to me that those tires have that groved impression in them like that. Someone at the tire factory been boozing on the job. 🥴

[@Boosted_e63chuck]

Is it just the bracket radials, or pro radials also. Going to check mine now.

[@JuanGonzalez-mi9uj]

Hey Justin prenup is rolling and dag you done went and put the Carolina kid in prenup man that's a Lethal combination as always keep up the awesome work let's go 💪 💯

[@Ryaei.]

That's awesome you upload a video on my birthday chief and Jackie rule from Australia

[@justinshearer3016]

Happy Birthdayyyy!!!!!

[@Ryaei.]

@@justinshearer3016 cheers

[@JuanGonzalez-mi9uj]

Hey chief and Jackie man thats total bs mickey Thompson should stand by there product and get there stuff together there's been a number of tires that have been jack up someone isn't doing there job. It sucks you guy's had to go thru that bs hopefully this ok set works out for you guy's. As always keep up the awesome work guys let's go 💪 💯

[@billybillizinski]

for the algorithm! keep em coming chaif!

[@Blackmamba1997]

Hoosier DR2 or QTP/C07 is what i use now. Had M/T for years still use them for a off-roading tire on my trucks/jeeps, but for drag racing after having a tire explode on the first pass I went to a new company for tires. Just my .02s

[@turbofreek]

hey guys ive hooked on the street with bald pro radials. 1khp+ turbo car. just as well or better than i have on c07s. 1.46 to 1.45 60ft per my dragy. virgin ass kansas city street no burnout to boot. i switched to slicks from radials. when the prices doubled.

[@raymurphy3049]

Chief I had the exact same thing but it was their radial pro tire. Had such a trough in it that after 3 burnouts and passes the middle of the trough was not worn at all.

[@justinshearer3016]

exactly the same thing going on with these....after 5 passes there was sections of the tire that wasnt touching the track lol

[@raymurphy3049]

Watching you guys early on with the slut encouraged me to make a drag car out of my 80 el camino. I'm struggling to get it to hook up on radials when tracks not the best. Would love to pick your brain on some setup stuff.

[@chrispetty5058]

I see what you’re talking about with the trough. But that wheel is either not centered on the balancer or it’s bent. Take a dowel or straight edge and rest in on the machine and line up with the lip of the rim. And there shouldn’t be any deviation.

[@mattfricks5278]

I have ran Hoosier dr2 and dbr on the street on my car and had good luck with them.

[@WPAPi3.14]

It the seam flap where they wrap it before putting in the mold boss!!!🎉😂

[@christhomas5794]

Hi chief hi Jackie respect from the UK big love

[@leroythemastermechanic]

When you want your vehicle tires to be nearly perfectly round, and who doesn't, the tires have to be "MATCHED" to the wheels they will be used on. This is a very accurate grinding process that is slow and labor intensive done with some now expensive equipment. If you are running tires at very high speeds, this process is mandatory!!! Have you ever noticed that Michelin tires do not have the "normal" knubs on the tread from the injection mold? That is because they are 'matched" to a standard at the factory, this additional step done by a low volume tire manufacture could double the price of the racing tires.

[@MrVelocity111]

Great to have a vid thx J&J

[@braydonpokorney4193]

I’ve had this same exact issue

[@NathanOdom-iy4sd]

I know Goodyear makes a good pro bracket tire but they are more in the expensive side of tires. I think general is starting to make something like it I saw a set on someone’s bracket car a few weeks ago but I’m not sure if they’d be what y’all needed for y’all’s application

[@matthewruss5008]

Somebody get the man a stamp!

[@craigbowers4047]

Good ole Midwest Street Cats.

[@ericcowell204]

ive run the nitto nt line of tire and it seems to be pretty good tire

[@markwalker9236]

I lived in fla. For a long time. Went to biggest 4x4 shop around. Owner to me to never buy tires from small tire shops. He told me they get alot of tires from say MT, if they get 1 that takes alot of weight to balance they just grab another tire and mount it up and send bad tire back to MT. Small shop only ordered 4 MT tires and has a bad 1 they just add weights and sends it. Makes sense people.

[@rcrocker2197]

It's like everything else these days price goes up & quality goes down, went through the same problem with a set of M&H racemaster front tires .

[@Stupidfastracing]

O boy just what I needed another video from you guys love your videos

[@Ashton.munozz]

I have the same issue with some et street r’s ur not alone they took mad weight and still shake

[@Peg_Leg9n]

I’m here circling it up 😂

[@derrickbyrd5330]

Hoosier DBR I had the same issue with Mickey Thompson’s. You guys are having switch to a Hoosier. They are a soft sidewall radial like the pro bracket radial I will never go back to Mickey Thompson. I love the Hoosiers.

[@justinshearer3016]

thats what we will try next i believe

[@tonypitsacota2513]

Wow... Did not know that Mickey Thompson had a new "S/S Twerkin'" line.

[@HarleyBeChoppin]

looks like its where the belts are molded together. when its molded. its a tight spot there if you will.. its a radial issue.. happens to alot of tires. also causes seperations later in life.

[@justinshearer3016]

a separation at the top end of the track is scary to think about

[@dougiebateson2491]

I bought some few years back mine had slices in side wall sent them back and got drag radials size smaller but think they were radials too I might have pics still

[@chevy2adam850]

Hoosier DBR's are where its at! Some people even have good luck with them on the street due to how soft of a sidewall they have. To me they almost feel like a stiff wall bias ply not a radial but you get all the benefits of a radial. They will wear the sidewalls out before you wear the tread out though just like a bias ply. I run them and they are amazing.

[@rickerdman9116]

Good info guys! I've been running the radial pro 275's and it's been tough always finding a track with radial prep. I was thinking about the pro bracket tires for not so good prep. Please let us know if you find an alternative tire. Thanks!

[@pathlawncare744]

New found explanation for thee Ol'Shake Raffle and Roll term. 😂

[@highdesertperformanceandracing]

Triple 8s are a pretty nice radial. They hook well.

[@justinfargas2367]

Good luck sorting your tyres. Kinda important, and MT seemed to have messed up big time on certain batches.

[@baltazard133T]

That first tire that you spun up on the balancer you could clearly tell that the rim itself had a slight bend or out of round issue, it was wobbling just as much as the tire was....

[@MidwestStreetCarsAuto]

its the same wheel on all of the tires lol

[@makpena6406]

Is it me or the second one looks like it has a small wobble??

[@okyworm]

Chief, that divit in the tire is the ply seam. It looks like when they added the tread ply they cut it short. I thought those were supposed to be extruded tread tires

[@kathygates8845]

THAT IS THE PLY... !!!!

[@curtisshaffer295]

2nd tire you can see high or low spots and on both the sidewalls are wavy as if the wheels are not true but they are