What is Michael Scott's Diagnosis? | Mental Health & Personality | The Office

This video answers the question: Can I analysis the mental health and personality characteristics of the Michael Scott character from the television series “The Office.”
The Office is a TV show that ran from 2005 to 2013 and featured a number of colorful characters, most notably Michael Scott played by Steve Carell.
Michael Scott is the regional manager of the Scranton Pennsylvania branch a paper distributer named Dunder Mifflin.
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[@mckinleyfisher-lynd3896]

*Sees the video title* Me: "Oh Hell yes"

[@aylo.mp3]

same exact thing here lmaooo

[@dianacummins6153]

Dr. Grande is my intellectual SOUL MATE ! Shhhh.....he just doesn't know it yet 😉

[@NadineThornhill]

To quote Phyllis, "I'm glad Michael's getting counselling. He's got a lot of problems and he's stupid."

[@chrisgould101]

Stanley was unavailable for comment.

[@carcharodonoodle]

"That man is not engaged. I was there. I'm not a supporter of therapy, but I will dig into my own pockets for his copay." - Darryl

[@JamesBeam420]

I actually think he's stupid like a fox. "Crazy like a fox" the expression. He's less dumb than he let's others believe. When he needs to, he wins. He beat Charles Minor. He displays intelligence alot.

[@JamesBeam420]

Michael always seems to win..

[@daenerystargaryen]

Phyllis is awful person. The worst character in the Office.

[@valh3503]

He didn’t actually go bankrupt. He just declared it (said it loudly) 😂

[@veil6594]

😂😂😂

[@gracelove5211]

Dr. Grande you deserve a Dundie for getting through this with a straight face😂😂😂 🏆

[@chrisgould101]

Thats what she said

[@a.humphries8678]

Yes, a Dundie!!

[@lauriesherrill7386]

thats what she said

[@dianacummins6153]

💯💯💯

[@alexisjuillard4816]

I m against the death penalty but i recognise you could make an argument for someone deserving the death penalty. But you go too far. NOBODY deserves a Dundi. Dundee ? Dundy? Fuck it doesn't even deserve to have a correct spelling

[@Adam-bq2vw]

I think that “absence of malice” is an EXCELLENT way to characterize the intent behind Michael Scott’s behavior.

[@speedracer2008]

Yeah. Michael does make bad decisions and say things he shouldn’t, but it’s mostly born out of stupidity rather than malice.

[@trick_biscuit7424]

I’m extremely excited impressed you got through this with a straight face. 😂

[@dustinh1583]

Me2! This is hilarious. Although I have to say if Dr. Grande doesn't have any outtakes where he smirks or laughs, I would be concerned.

[@dreamof_me]

There are some cuts in the beginning... so he might’ve just been laughing

[@jermed2001]

I think Dr. Grande is like a deadpan person, even a bit monotone where he doesn't show many reactions to anything. Even his jokes are very deadpan. Spoken in a monotone way where you wouldn't notice unless you really were paying attention. Of course we don't know his real life or anything and maybe psychologists are required to be this way when speaking with or about a client.

[@rubearch24]

I was smiling the whole time

[@daniellerodgers6493]

That’s what she said.

[@desireegambino865]

Michael Scott envisions his employees as his family, more than his friends. As seen in season 7, I believe Episode 14, Erin, the receptionist who takes Pam's position, is a former foster child, and wants Michael's approval in her romantic relationship. Michael asks, "Why are you asking me? I'm not your dad", to which Erin responds in silence and sadness. Michael takes the queue and responds by scolding her, saying, "You are forbidden to see that boy!" He is somehow lonely for family. Thanks, Dr. Grande!

[@alaric_]

Also the reluctance of firing anyone. He would do practically anything to avoid having to fire someone. If he wouldn't care or be indifferent, he would just pick someone. Michael however stalls, evades, comes up excuses, tries to find ways to keep employees, literally anything. This signifies the importance of the employees to him, more than just regular employees.

[@MrDavidknigge]

@Sam R-A probably voice-to-texr, LOL.

[@emmiep9459]

definitely voice to text.

[@nicholasengel5041]

Dr Grande’s catalogic knowledge of The Office is impressive

[@JennyNobody]

that's what I was thinking as well!

[@giaparmer]

I know....I thought only I knew that much of the office!

[@evanislost]

@@giaparmer 😆 I used to watch it every night before bed for like half a year

[@ethanross1506]

I know he was probably already a fan of the show but I choose to believe that he binged every single episode just for this 22 minute video.

[@einsteindarwin8756]

I wish I had watched it but I always found working with extroverts so exhausting so I watched something different to escape and recharge for the next day.

[@dannandaeterra]

"Like when he planned to jump off of a building onto a bounce house." It tickles me to death to hear you say that lmao

[@ks9610]

For the life of me, I don’t know how he maintained a straight face when he said that part! It’s such a ridiculous concept that I started to laugh at him for just saying it!

[@babblingalong7689]

As an Office-watcher I felt the same way. Michael is misguided and lacks insight but is ultimately good natured and even very caring.

[@qiuwbr091]

Babbling Along - Wots the dead pan facial expression abt

[@atinity6749]

Yeah, mindfucking and leading on a bunch of school kids who already might have a horrible background, JUST because he wants to feel validated, just so that group of kids would celebrate HIM. He had no real empathy for those kids, it was all for his own glory. I hate Michael Scott. I've known too many people like him, I hate that other people give them second chance after second chance, because they assume that deep down they mean well. They don't. The fact their actions and words affect other people just doesn't occur them, because it's all about them, all the time.

[@babblingalong7689]

@@atinity6749 There certainly is a narcissistic streak in Michael's plans for his Tots, but he wants to be a rich hero like figure to genuinely help them. He wants to be recognized as a philanthropist, he wants to help others as much as he wants the recognition. He wants to be important because then he is liked and loved, at least so he thinks. I really don't think Michael's an evil character.

[@Jay_Lo]

He always says racist things unapologetically and torpedoed the angelic Prince Family paper business when he didn't really have to, as he shirked many of his responsibilities given by David Wallace and Jan Levinson (no Gould) before.

[@chrisgould101]

@@atinity6749 jeez lighten up karen. Michael scott for president.

[@netpunk5890]

I’m only 4 minutes in, but since you’re talking about Toby, it’s probably worth another video pondering if he is actually the Scranton Strangler, as a personality profile!!

[@jack_k2136]

I often thought Toby reflected the loneliness felt by Michael--contributing to the other things mentioned by Dr. Grande for reasons to be so rude and dismissive of Toby.

[@BeatWav]

Yes!

[@3_up_moon]

It wasnt toby. Iirc, there is a scene where the scranton strangler is being arrested on TV and Toby is there, watching with other people in the office. I'm going to google it. Maybe the TV was on in the background. It was the audio of the news report that sticks in my memory.

[@dimitra2947]

I believe the struggler was Rolf because Dwight at the picnic said Rolf wanted shoes that they don't leave footprints. Or a big possibility that the struggler was Trevor who had a lot of equipment and was hired by Angela and Dwight to kill Oscar

[@k21im]

He could do a video on almost everyone on the show!!!

[@knowledgeapplied]

*"Depression? Isn't that just a fancy word for feeling "bummed out"?* -- Dwight Schrute ;)

[@neveralone1618]

“Dwight, you ignorant slut.”

[@edwright480]

No

[@_letstartariot]

Stated by the Chaddest Chad we all love, Dwight Schrute.

[@beccas.7762]

@@edwright480 are you aware of the episode in question?

[@momoshiggles3631]

Really liking the plaid jacket/shirt combo, Dr. Grande. Nice pop of color!

[@HumanimalChannel]

Looks snuggly 😊

[@beautyandmind]

@@HumanimalChannel that was also my first thought 🥰

[@desireez5740]

😆😆😆

[@loreleialexander8607]

I always felt like he was on the spectrum with a history of neglect and social isolation. So his only ideas of how people act was from TV. He is too kind genuinely kind to be narcissistic

[@backoffbrent6199]

I have often wondered what kind of diagnosis Michael Scott would get from a professional. While binge watching your channel I found this video, and it made my day. Your willingness to diagnose fictional characters is a really nice touch, and keeps things interesting. I really appreciate the work you put in, knowledge you share. Thanks!

[@Amanda-el9dx]

I remember Michael Scott once said he acts silly to lighten the tension in situations. I think he’s secretly brilliant in some situations. He let the air out of everyone’s tires when they merged with Stanford so the workers would be upset with him and not each other. He made Ryan move to the annex to be by Kelly - probably as punishment. His branch is weirdly successful and nobody ever leaves (unless they Transfer).

[@brinsonharris9816]

We may be thinking of different eps, but putting Ryan & Kelly together in the annex was to make Toby miserable because he was in the next cubicle and had to listen to their chatter all day.

[@Amanda-el9dx]

@@brinsonharris9816 True. He’s brilliant ✨

[@brinsonharris9816]

@@Amanda-el9dx Toby thought so too!

[@LaylaVaughan]

I always figured Michael had ADHD. Speaking from experience, when you're an extremely hyperactive and inattentive kid others tend to find you to be annoying, which makes it hard to form or maintain friendships. If the symptoms persist into adulthood it might be hard to focus at work leading to lack of productivity and frequent distraction. On the other hand ADHD can make someone thrive in a job like sales because the energetic personality can be charming at times, and the meeting new people on a regular basis makes the job present novelty on a regular basis to keep someone engaged. Hence why Michael might have been one of the best salesmen, but is not well suited for being a manager of an office. Plus the lack of socializing growing up could result in poor social skills in regards to empathy or 'reading a room'.

[@Cagebreaker]

I have ADHD-C (combined type) and have felt for a while that Michael Scott was one of us. He exhibits many of the hallmarks of both inattentive-type and impulsive/hyperactive-type ADHD.

[@paulhusband9002]

I always went with ADHD too. I would often sink into the seat when watching him as it was often like a caricatured version of myself. :-)

[@codirennke1109]

I see similarities between michael and my nephew who has adhd and is on the autism spectrum 💙

[@kimcoldham-fussell4506]

There was one episode where he ripped into a box not addressed to him and Dwight correctly noted when michael asked ‘why did I do that!’ - ‘inattention and impulsivity’

[@kateashby3066]

Really good point. Michael is almost an exact mirror of my 14 year old ADHD self (but I’m a woman). I just realized what makes Michael funny to watch as opposed to annoying is that he doesn’t have those social boundaries and can’t pick up on a social cue to save his life. ADHD adults aren’t usually THIS socially inept. So it really does feel like the writers were trying to emulate a kid with ADHD rather than an adult with ADHD 😂. Add to that some low self esteem and thus, overcompensation for it, and we have MS!

[@DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman]

I think he has a lot of empathy. He went to great lengths to never fire any employee, he said "here we only hire people, we never fire people", he almost never feels envy, is always happy for his coworkers. What he lacks is the ability to get social cues, he says things that sound mean, but his heart is very good.

[@lasphynge8001]

If anything, Michael Scott is a blatant case of ADHD (which is a neurological condition, not a personality disorder) and I think the series has been written with that in mind. I remember an episode when Michael is trying to avoid taking responsibility for a situation, says he doesn't know why it happened, and Dwight behind him exclaims "INATTENTION TO DETAIL AND POOR MEMORY". I had growing suspicion since the beginning, but this line there, to me, confirmed that the authors really thought of Michael as having ADHD. I think ADHD and narcissism - or at least narcissistic traits - can easily overlap or be confused with each other. ADHD traits are often misinterpreted as manifestation of psychological issues, AND is also a risk factor for personality disorders in general and various psychological comorbidities. If some traits can be better explained by a neurologic condition such as ADHD, then they can't be used to diagnose a full blown narcissistic personality disorder. But I can easily imagine how one can pass as narcissistic when they have ADHD. Michael Scott is notorious for a couple of things that point to ADHD if you think of it. Has difficulty refraining from impulsive and extreme decisions, often fails to assess the safety of his plans and inadvertently puts himself and others in danger. Fails to assess other people's feelings and state of mind, fails to listen, has experienced rejection (and I think bullying is also suggested) as a kid, has poor social skills. Is forgetful, dreamy, clearly has a creative mind. Easily bored - making a show of everything, being a compulsive joker, can be an instinctive strategy to sustain his own mental arousal, attention and enthusiasm. In general, he has trouble "staying on track". Experiences extreme emotions and has trouble self soothing, self regulating, refraining from showing these emotions or acting upon them. Is basically emotionally immature. Has poor self assessment, fails to notice his own shortcomings, overestimates his abilities. Is a bad planner and only functions thanks to a lot of "scaffolding" (assistant, receptionist...). Has poor memory, and mixed with occasional excess of enthusiasm, makes "feel good" promises that he later finds himself unable to keep. Also LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF FIDGET TOYS ON THAT DESK. Now, ADHD can explain a fair share of what may seem like self-centeredness, impulsivity and irresponsibility, *but* there are still toxic behaviors in a character like Michael Scott that can be seen as narcissistic traits. When he choses to lie or hide the truth to get what he wants or avoid trouble, when he choses to blame someone else for something that is his fault (even when he knows it), when he puts others down to make himself look good, and when he disregards boundaries in general, these are *choices* that ADHD alone can't explain. They might not be enough to diagnose a bona fide personality disorder, but they're definitely *not* something you could blame on his hypothetical ADHD either. ADHD impairs some cognitive abilities, it makes you "clumsy" if you will, but not ill-intentioned, manipulative or purposefully toxic like narcissism. So Iong story short, I see Michael as someone with ADHD and *some* narcissistic traits.

[@sumgirlable]

Love listening to this calm relaxed intellectual

[@chrisgould101]

I'm trying to figure out if he has a sense of humour. How can U do Michael Scott and not laugh😅😅

[@Griselda_Puppy]

@Rogue Squadron *Thats the nature of **_dry_** humor; very, very dry humor.*

[@chrisgould101]

@@Griselda_Puppy I prefer my humour to be moist

[@Griselda_Puppy]

@@chrisgould101 There was A LOT of humor in this video, although it definitely was not of the moist variety, so I can see how you would have missed it.

[@clossemarin3201]

And his puns.

[@dmike3507]

I love how you can do a fun video and still take it seriously lol! Next you should do an analysis of Dr. Gregory House.

[@vice2versa]

me to, this video was awesome and the fact he treated it seriously elevated it for me.

[@gigib8849]

THAT would be a very interesting one for sure!

[@savw5134]

Yes please! Dr. House would be great!😀

[@Griselda_Puppy]

*I would **_love_** to see a video like this on Dr. House!*

[@brandiroseshaw]

YES House would be great!

[@maximokruk2739]

can't believe you do all these diagnoses about fictional characters with such seriousness. thank you very much, your channel is very unique and informative.

[@mirimiriela480]

Interesting! I really enjoyed the trait breakdown with the facet breakdown, too. As you were going through his personality profile, I noticed a fair amount of characteristics that would seem to fit with ADHD, too. He has difficulty completing tasks that don't interest him while focusing intensely on things that do. I think one could argue that he even distracts others to prevent being forced to do things he's not interested in, including tasks that require a high level of focus. He struggles with following through on things. He has serious problems with impulse control, most often seen in his lack of filter in conversation. He interrupts people, and he always has to do things first because he can't wait his turn. The high affective empathy/low cognitive empathy combination is more common in autism than ADHD, to be fair. And again, this one isn't a symptom criterion for ADHD, but he has a strong case of what the ADHD community refers to as "rejection sensitive dysphoria," meaning that when he perceives that he is being rejected, he experiences extremely strong negative emotions. Also, it's been a while since I watched the show, but I think there's a few times when he picks up a hobby, gets really into it, and it's gone again by the next episode, e.g. he goes on vacation and when he comes back, he's playing a steel drum. The lack of insight also fits!

[@lasphynge8001]

My thought exactly. Also, *look at the number of fidget toys on that desk* !

[@rishaa682]

good point i wondered about adhd myself

[@drdispekful747]

I’ve always seen Michael as having ADHD.

[@guardiana44]

ADHD seems to make sense, that's the first thing that popped to mind

[@chrisgould101]

As the adhd spokesperson for all schools I went to before being expelled, for adhd, Michael Scott presents with basically every thing that embodies adhd. In fact he could champion adhd in the workplace as a global spokesperson

[@SeleneC.]

Omg! My life is complete now, never have I clicked on something so fast!

[@alexisalexi5161]

Me too! Lol

[@bronfoth]

Same!!!

[@tessharte1307]

Omg that was fascinating!! I would love for you to do Jack Sparrow!

[@VIK_1903]

That's what she said!

[@ggstylz]

😂

[@lalalalalalee6311]

That’s a good one!

[@mdd9237]

Captain Crunch?

[@iainholmes2735]

In the British version, David Brent clearly has some admirable qualities: he was also a very good salesman. He was annoying, but one somehow liked him, and were pleased when he found some happiness at the end. Enjoyed this analysis.

[@qiuwbr091]

Can you tell us more about, “theory of mind?” (As a side; I think your parents must be very proud of you.)

[@qiuwbr091]

Pretty interesting.

[@MustardSeedish]

"I can keep a secret for as long as I possibly can." Michael Scott

[@user-yi7td2sq9b]

I was just telling my fiance yesterday that I hope Dr. Grande makes a video about Michael Scott. Well, my wish came true.

[@lolitah8560]

DR Grande what a wonderful treat to say goodbye to 2019 with laughter

[@keelime42]

In a nutshell, Michael Scott’s diagnosis: a pain in the neck, with a big heart. I almost forgot how much I disliked him when they first started the show. It was the nostalgia of the work environment that made it an entertaining show. Then later, I became endeared with the characters.

[@szamiduzaable]

This single dislike was left secretly by Dwight Schrute:)

[@reeshot]

Clever!

[@paper-chasepublications9433]

😂😂😂

[@FrankBenlin]

He's going to be doing Michael's laundry again.

[@natesmith5444]

I'm writing this as I prepare my ethics syllabus for the Spring semester! A lot to think about here! Always a pleasure Dr. G!

[@ladymopar2024]

Good luck

[@qiuwbr091]

Nate Smith - How are thangs going?

[@steffedy]

Great breakdown, loved this! Could you do a breakdown of Joe Goldberg from the Netflix show You? He's obsessed with finding love and falls head over heels for the women unfortunate to have his affections. Any character that gets in his way he tends to act violently towards (often ending in murder). He has a soft spot for protecting children and deems himself a hero despite the horrible things he's done. The internet seems to love and root for him in the show. It would be great to get a breakdown of this character and see what mental health issues he could have 🙏🏾

[@mikaila2871]

Especially with consideration of the closing scene of the second season.. An objective take would be so interesting!

[@millsykooksy4863]

Hilarious, I love that show

[@jamieepic666]

Its a book series also

[@tracymonroe6001]

I think Michael’s mother marrying Jeff was really a blow because Jeff took away Little Mike’s only friend-his mom.

[@silviashusband497]

Michael scott has a beautiful soul. Happy new year people!!

[@icefalcon2243]

Michael Gary Scott- “he has a lot of issues and he’s stupid.”- Phyllis Vance

[@Dulce0018]

He's a leo sun. So yes, he wants to be center of attention, his moon sign is Pisces which means he's very intuitive and empathetic and his rising sign is virgo. So he can be critical of himself and others. U need to study astrology. There is nothing wrong w him. He has Pisces in his 6th house of health which states he'll have addiction to alcohol and pills. Also having a moon in Pisces means his father abandoned him during childhood. So he does have abandonment issues.

[@Dulce0018]

@@jeremiahsymonette4781 I studied astrology, I moved to another country to teach English, I'm also a cerified massage therapist. What R u doing? Did u go to a trolling school? I know I wasn't speaking to u, so I don't need ur 2 scents. Cuz you barley have 1.

[@Dulce0018]

@@jeremiahsymonette4781 good job w ur 2 subscribers BTW!

[@melindac3368]

I've never missed an episode and it's still hilariously funny to me.

[@paper-chasepublications9433]

Who knew Dr. Grande was also a fan of The Office??? I've been wondering what's wrong with Michael Scott for years! Ha-ha! Thanks for another scientifically informed breakdown, Doc!👍🏽👍🏽 How about his ex, Jan? She seems like somebody you covered in one of your "wife with narcissistic/histrionic/BPD" videos...🤔

[@chrisgould101]

Michael Scott is the ideal state of human being.

[@_letstartariot]

His humour suggest he’s a fan of wit. With many of his jokes you have to read between the lines. The Office has a lot of both

[@kateashby3066]

Oh I can TOTALLY-see dr grande being VERY into the office :)

[@sarahneal7280]

I think Michael could also have ADHD. He's very impulsive, lacks focus (although we see he can hyperfocus on things he enjoys like being a salesman) is hyperactive, and has other symptoms. Many of his behaviours could be explained by this

[@ebraden09]

I always thought Michael was very insecure and his narcissistic moments were just attempts at making himself and others believe the things he wished he was. Honestly, I love Michael Scott. I think it was when he’s the only one who shows up for Pam at her art show that won me over. 😭

[@elisamastromarino7123]

Ahaha! I saw the title and thought _"thats what she said.."_ but than you addressed it and I felt juvenile. 😄 Happy New Year, Dr Grande! 🎉🥂👍

[@pkmcburroughs]

You know what, Dr. Grande? You do really nice, very thorough summaries of programs and films.

[@danesec8554]

DR.GRANDE!!!!!! Couple days ago I was thinking and wishing if you did a diagnosis of Micheal Scott because he always made me mad and he was so mean towards others wow this is so crazy!!!!!

[@chrisgould101]

That's what she said

[@kanalintu2673]

This is great. I'd LOVE to see more of these takes on fictional people. There's something mesmerizing about it. Suggestion: "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" is a wellspring of dysfunctional people. There's also a character who was diagnosed BPD in the show (Dennis Reynolds). It would be interesting to see if it's an accurate diagnosis in your opinion!

[@alexisd6106]

I honestly think ALL of them have BPD. I'd be very interested in wathign that analysis.

[@imjustjules]

Diagnose characters from Parks & rec! I feel like they all had something going on lol. Love this video 💖 I’m in school for counseling and hope to get my doctorate eventually and gain as much as knowledge as you have one day :)

[@murphymomof9]

Yes! Leslie Knope next. ;)

[@dannandaeterra]

Okay I officially adore this channel.

[@pocoeagle2]

Thanks Dr. Grande for doing this topic. I specifically liked hearing you mention all the 30 facets of the FFM in one video, while analyzing someone's character. Happy New year doc 😃🇳🇱

[@rileswain]

This is the most amazing analysis of Michael Scott I've ever heard! Subscribed.

[@josefk7437]

I thought Michael Scott is a man-child. In the situation where he buys Pam's art, that is a situation where his child-like personality works. I also thought Michael is a picture of the Peter Principle and he rose to his level of incompetence. Most man-child characters are in low-level jobs with no authority, but Michael Scott answers the question of "What if the man-child was the boss?"

[@simonprociuk5947]

You can tell this man is professional. Every statement is backed up with its respective disclaimer

[@cherylspencer7355]

OMG! 😂😂😂 How do you keep a straight face while analyzing The Office characters? I love these! Michael Scott: “Reverse psychology is an awesome tool. I don’t know if you guys know about it, but, basically, you make someone think the opposite of what you believe.......works like a charm!

[@samanthajames6857]

I’m so excited already for this lol! Happy New Year, Dr. Grande! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊✨✨✨✨✨ *(I would love to know your thoughts on Dwight lmao!)*

[@geoffduke1763]

Best one yet, do Dwight next! Or Andy, if you can get to the bottom of him >..

[@chrisgould101]

Stanley

[@vintagetoycollector4983]

Creed!

[@camillarich]

Andy breaks character a few times... I don't think he'd be good to analyze. You'd have to specify which season's Andy.

[@healthyfitmom]

As someone who just went to a family meeting with a delusional family member in the hospital who denied every symptom and seemed to coherently talk himself out of his illness, this video gives me hope that the psychiatrist knows how to see past a smooth talker and give my family healing .

[@MelissaSlayton111]

Part of the reason why I think the office was such a successful show is because of the empathy it portrays characters with, who are in no way typical suave, Hollywood camera ready types. NPD is very demonized because of its negative effects. If you take a realistic look at the show, you do see some pretty brutal effects of Michael’s self absorption. That being said, you also see an authentic human being who has a limited world view but at the end of the day still has basic human emotions like love. While I am the first person to encourage people to not be in denial about the unhealthy affects of narcissism, I think a lot of educators miss the mark in their attempt to portray narcissists as superhuman monsters. This is much more the reality. A difficult person who demands attention. A completely self absorbed person who we get along with best with when we we treat them like a child. Even though Michael Scott is very much preoccupied with being the center of attention, I would consider him a covert/vulnerable narcissist because his need to be admired is driven through vulnerability much more than power. Covert narcissists can really idealize the mores of society and this includes his loyalty to the company and friends. However there is a child-like aspect to this, and it is inconsistent in times when it clashes with his narcissism. Narcissists to me are parasitic more than sadistic. Michael Scott has little malice, but he completely drains people mainly through being annoying and dominating and self-absorbed. The absence of malice, and child like behavior, are what can make narcissism so hard to recognize. I also feel that he is incredibly manipulative. When confronted with a boundary he escalates the situation, throws a bunch of word salad around, and usually deludes himself that he is right and other people aren’t and doesn’t usually change his behavior based on the discomfort of others. I also don’t feel like he truly has cognitive empathy. He is very sentimental, but to me it reflects the fantasy he wants to have of the situation at the moment (world’s best boss). I felt like he was high on the fantasy component. Like most people do, I care about him as a character. However, I think that like a covert narcissist would, he charms people with his vulnerability and quirkiness. We dismiss his social faux pas as a lack of awareness; this, to me, is the most problematic thing. I know people with autism or ADHD who, if you tell them that they are inadvertently showing a lack of awareness, are deeply self reflective and apologetic about it. Whereas the way I begin to suspect a narcissist is that their world view would collapse if they accepted this, so you will never get anywhere with feedback. Though we laugh at Michael Scott and are charmed at his moments of sincerity, the way we are with children, I think this show does bring up important lessons. While he is funny to the viewer, we have to think about the experience that, say, a child might have being raised by him. Having so little boundaries and constantly having to prop up someone’s ego while you are trying to form your own sense of identity would be incredibly toxic. At the end of the day, people with NPD have a mental health issue and there is no use in stigmatizing mental health. I think that the show gives us a good example that beneath the exterior of a narcissist there is someone who does have their good moments and deserves love yet needs excessive boundaries. It really draws attention to a blind spot in society. We can’t stand to think that he’s a narcissist because we care about him. This is the reality of mental illness and personality disorders. It doesn’t always look like the bad guy in a horror movie. It’s a flawed, complex, real person with deep self esteem issues, capable of love. And it’s up to us to be aware of the reality of it and learn how to communicate in these situations...And at the end of the day to laugh at ourselves.

[@jack_k2136]

Very well done. The ability to use a fictitious character so many are familiar with really helps as you lay out your case. I applaud your Dx, so many seem to stretch criteria to make a definitive Dx. Sadly, in my agency, we would be discouraged from an unspecified/NOS Dx for fear of not getting paid by a funder or Medicare/Medicaid. I imagine an analysis of GEORGE COSTANZA from SEINFELD would be very interesting. :-)

[@dannybronson5895]

I love your channel Dr. Grande! Very well thought out and keeps me learning every day.

[@kaseyjones2861]

This was an amazing lesson. I have learned a massive amount by watching your videos.

[@tchrisou812]

Whoa whoa whoa, Michael Scott is a character? Note to self : cancel Scranton vaca, cancel paper order- thanks Doc

[@Psyteth]

I am very real.

[@Intrepid_Insomniac]

I am so glad you did this!! I have always wondered about Michael Scott... and thought it would be cool to see a professional analyze him! Happy new year! 🎆🎊

[@IdahoDali]

Michael has ASD (autism, which would be considered "high functioning," or what used to be called Aspergers) and ADHD. Most of the symptoms you spoke about can be explained with these neurological diagnoses. It is extremely common for mental health practitioners across the board to misdiagnose people with ASD as having NPD or BPD due to the lack of education on autism in the mental health world and the similar appearance of certain behaviours. However, the reasons and intentions behind the behaviours are what differentiate between ASD and NPD. As ADHD and ASD are not mental illnesses but neurological syndromes, Michael is not mentally ill in this way. If I had to diagnose a mental illness for Michael I would say he has PTSD, the symptoms of which are displayed sparingly, yet strongly. Thank you for doing this analysis.

[@_letstartariot]

I mean you can’t know that because he is a fictional character. It could by one or the other. And because he’s fictional, he’d have characteristics that contraindicate them too.

[@aylamyers5851]

I would agree more with ADHD and ASD too.

[@bigtalk2598]

The fact that you are evaluating a fictional character is comedy gold. Your deadpan delivery elevates the comedic level exponentially. Hard to beat that. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

[@rishaa682]

LMAO i love that somebody did this video

[@rishaa682]

Im starting to realize im not the only one who was completely at a loss with his character. all i know is that while he is funny he gives me a migraine.

[@HumanimalChannel]

@@rishaa682 risha have you watched the original series made in England starring ricky gervais who developed the characters/show. Whole new heady level of incredible cringe, and still able to pull at your empathy heart strings.

[@rishaa682]

@@HumanimalChannel yes i did! and did you see the follow up movie, david brent life on the road. so much cringe but they seemed to sort of resolve some of his emotional psychological issues at the end but at the same time i think michael scotts issues might be slightly different

[@sandragrace4613]

Well, look, it had to be done, ok?

[@HumanimalChannel]

@@rishaa682 yes I saw it! Fantastic. In the show I think they adapted for culture and for the individual actors

[@parypearl382]

I'd love to see a similar video on some of the other characters, particularly Dwight.

[@Jasper.Rose99]

When I hear everything he is saying I’m watching bits of the office in my head it’s great

[@r.chrism.d.3001]

Tremendously thoughtful overview of the personality disorder exam. And perfect conclusion: none of the above. Fiction in, fiction out.

[@GIFT1FROM1THE1GODZ]

Never clicked on a video so fast lmao thank you for the upload!

[@chrisgould101]

That's what she said

[@valgal72]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Thanks for sharing, Dr. Grande. The Atacama’s got nothing on you! 👍🏻 “The early bird gets the worm. Well, I am an early bird AND a night owl...so I am wise and I have worms.” - Michael Scott (psa on self awareness)

[@vibe_oli]

Love to see a video for some of the other characters on the show. They are each very interesting in their own way. The dynamics they have with each other too. The show as a joke was so successful and loved because of the great fleshed our characters and their growth. I love the show and rewatch it often. ❤️

[@ZappyOh]

That's what she said ...

[@basically2956]

.......Webster's Dictionary defines 'wedding' as 'the fusing of two metals with a hot torch. ' Well you know something? I think you guys are two medals. Gold medals......

[@bigpoppapump1101]

Man Dr Grande just made me miss Michael so much. I watched that series so many times and always stopped when he left. When I finally plowed through them all and finished I loved that they addressed that they were being recorded. When I first started watching I always wished they would work into the show what is happening with the supposed footage being shot and I’m glad they did. What an amazing show. Awesome analysis of Michael!

[@glaube3438]

I have never seen the show. It looks like that Michael Scott as described by you has a little ADD, acts like a little happy , uncomplicated, egocentric child and it seems like he still has a lot to learn. Thank you! Your interpretation was fun!

[@caseyw.6550]

So today I've learned that I'm basically Michael Scott.

[@chrisgould101]

That's what she said

[@staceykersting705]

Yes! I feel diagnosed now.

[@taburzblism3287]

i LOVE these kinds of videos where fictional characters are analysed and diagnosed!! very interesting to watch. Even though its fictional characters from tv shows and movies its quite interesting because its fun and educational at the same time. Micheal Scott is a good example of the tarot card "the fool" archtype and an unintentional troll. i love the situations he gets into and find alot of his childish immature offensive behavior to be hilarious. He does seem really naive and dumb at times like shouting out the word "bankruptcy" thinking thats how one declares bankruptcy, or like when he asked "how do i get youtube to come out and record me" but its like a childlike innocence. He's really just a big kid and a child at heart. He wants everyone to have fun and to be happy and have a good time and wants to be friends with (almost) everyone. He always wants fun and i love how non serious he is at times and can have a laugh at really serious intense moments when in situations like almost getting fired or in trouble with his bosses. At times though he is very immature and seems entirely oblivious to real dangers in the world around him and seems to have little to no awareness at all. Hes selfish in a very childish way at times too. He gets on good with kids too and i think thats because mentally he still is one himself lol. He soo hates toby because toby is very plain and boring and serious which is no fun to mike at all. He keeps excluding toby from things in a child like way and calls him corporate. He looks at everyone else in the workplace as his friends or as his family. He even kind of almost adopted ryan as his son, not litrelly but micheal looked at ryan like he was a son and loves him for some odd reason. Even went out of his way to spend extra and bought him the eye pod mp3 music thingy in a christmas episode which ended up going to someone else because of some office christmas gift swapping party game. Micheal is way too trusting at times and irresponsible. i think hed rather his people have fun rather than actually getting their work done. easy job i would love to come and work for him. easy monies all day long. one of the most child like things i remember him doing was trying to escape his problems by running away and being avoided of serious issues that need addressing, or that episode where he was gonna run away from home by getting the train out of town. i think was because of bankruptcy or debt or jan or something cant entirely remember. Speaking of which he lets people use him and even fell victim to a pyramid scheme until others in the office had pointed it out AFTER he did a presentation and tried getting them on board it. i love the whole "thats what she said" thing and use it almost everyday, i had forgotten it was him it came from till i just heard you mention it in the video. i think he would be a really bad parent but an amazing fun uncle. i love his inappropriateness and blatant offensivesness when trying to make a joke and have a laugh with no real malicious intent behind it but sometimes he goes too far which lands him in trouble and doesnt know when to stop at times. i respect the whole character thing he does when hes trying to teach something because it shows that hes trying to make learning fun for others but the problem is hes not teaching a bunch of kids with little attention spans but actually hes a boss teaching adults in an office setting. As boss he should be a bit more serious and setting a better example of being a good leadership role and setting realistic goals that he wants people to work towards and actually accomplish. Enforcing Responsibilities basically while at the same time being a good hard working leader. Thanks for reading this far to anyone who has!

[@olivianicoloff2998]

ok classic!!! i'm loving the plaid and that colour combo!!!! dr g serving the excellent character analysis AND cozy fashion looks yes!!! another year of todd being a pillar of wisdom in my life thank u always doc

[@vickieden5022]

I love that you did this analysis, lol. Love The Office !

[@ringzy]

Happy New Year Dr. Todd!

[@abdulwahidnagi861]

Thank you doctor Grande After watching the second season I just wanted this person to be analyzed and i swear I thought to my self “ i wish D. Grande would do it” and here it is I was laughing just watching you diagnose Michael

[@greenbrain8725]

Haha, in other words, this character is an amalgam of all possible personality traits that suit the plot of each episode of The Office. Something Mr. Carrell handled masterfully.

[@theacguy9546]

Just when I think I’m out you pull me back in again. 😆

[@DreamingInTechnicolor]

*YASSSS! This made my Year, my Decade even...*

[@chrisgould101]

That's what she said

[@Psyteth]

This saves me a trip to the doctors. Thank you.

[@HumanimalChannel]

The more I hear about narcissism the more I understand about the loneliness of the sufferers in childhood. Seems to be a strong theme. Ego development stunted...the person not developing their image of self during periods of interaction with others, the reality being the absence of others who could and ahpuld be interacting and they chose not to. absence of feedback (with the loud silence of rejection) noone caring to spend positive time with and guide, and also this affecting abilitybto make friends. Makes me feel very sad for the narcassist.

[@dermic]

Sad yes but It could be some traits they were born with and a parent with similar traits can’t guide them to a better healthy upbringing. most creative people throughout history said they create from pain I think the need to create what is not there in reality is at the core of narcissism

[@yournewgadgets6484]

Any chances you can do an analysis video on Joe's character from Netflix's You?

[@jamieepic666]

Its also a book series if you are interested.

[@KenVic02]

Very thorough analysis as always, Doctor. Spot on. The first fictional character I thought of that I'd love to see an analysis of is Mrs. Robinson from The Graduate. She's rife with disorders. But given that it's an older movie, I'm not sure the bulk of your audience would know much about it. Either way it'd be interesting!

[@maria.j777]

Thank you, Dr Grande, for this and all of your videos--wishing you & yours all the best--Happy New Year!

[@stephaniemacdonald7979]

What a great video Dr Grande. How you could do this without breaking your composure is amazing -- I laughed throughout recalling the episodes you mentioned. Thanks so much.

[@OtterUnderwater]

I've been looking for an acceptable video like this for YEARS. So glad you finally made it 😁

[@alexandrameow3593]

This is awesome! I'm so glad you have a sense of humor Dr. Grande.

[@VictorWaid]

Dr please do a video on agoraphobia. I enjoy your videos analysis on mental health. Thank you. Victor

[@BeingBetter]

I have agoraphobia.

[@Sandra-wj4on]

The contrast between how serious you are while describing funny scenes is priceless! I love it!

[@Fredshobbies]

Can you do a video on Eric Cartman from South Park or Dennis Reynolds from Sunny in Philadelphia. Thanks doctor like your vids.

[@Beowulf-wt3kb]

Please do Sheldon Cooper!

[@hridi_]

Really cool video! Can you make a video on Erin from Office? i think she had the darkest past

[@blujaebird]

I see so much of myself in Michael. We even have the same meyer briggs type, although idk how much validity I put into that. I was extremely lonely as a child. I had a lot of siblings, but there was a large age gap between us and they never bothered too much with me. "100 children so he could have 100 friends" yeah, lol. I don't want to put that on my kids though but I get the sentiment. I can't stand to make people sad, to the point I go above and beyond at my own expense.

[@JessicaIsOkay]

This is great. Hoping u do a diagnosis of Aaron Hernandez!

[@sevenitta-_-]

After watching this I love you more than ever before Dr.G.