What is Midnight Motorist REALLY about ? // FNaF Theory

[@mrdoc7344]

I think that idea of “Coming home after choosing victim” was shown in the FNAF movie. When Golden Freddy comes for Abby to bringing her into pizzeria for the murder.

[@porcelainchips6061]

Perhaps the whole point of Midnight Motorist is to tell the tragic, ironic tale of who also owned a purple car and who's kid was often at Freddy's. Someone did get blamed for everything, but then was later released. Perhaps this is a two for one; an MCI victim and ironically their father who would get blamed for everything; a known drunk with a temper. Also; where did Glitchtrap get the idea for the soft suit? People really overlook Gitchtrap's design a lot... Couldn't it be "an old suit"? Perhaps a "yellow one" ?

[@porcelainchips6061]

Just a quick detail about arcade cabinets to keep in mind; It was really common for one cabinet model to be used for many, many different titles. It was more common for "imports" / Japanese arcade machine cabinets to stand out from western ones. Also the 1970s/up to mid-80s cabinets were mostly plywood with a wrap adhesive design and later you get into more plastic. Basically what I am trying to say is that early cabinets (hint; this is a "table style" and not an up-right) are super-similar or using the same frame and then the later you go the more custom the parts are. So personally I think Fruit Maze and Midnight Motorist looking "the same" more so is trying to tell us these events fall within the same year, or within a year or two of each other and not wide, wide spans of time apart.

[@chaoticsilver8442]

14:08 Change your smoke detector batteries. It's not safe to have a not working smoke alarm. Plus things like this happens.

[@BFFAvgeek15]

Now this is a good theory! I never thought of midnight motorist being about a victim’s dad. It fits well to me. People have spent years figuring it out, but I think this sums it up. Great video! 👍

[@thedarkdevil1661]

With MCIMM, I'm more on board with Fritz. 1) There's an order of "Susie, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz, Cassidy" (HW2 has this order in PQ4, but Jeremy and Fritz are switched. 2) Chica and Bonnie have party hats on in HW1's Pizza Party backroom, while Foxy doesn't, possibly meaning he's not possessed yet. 3) Foxy has Gold/Yellow Eyes, and So is "Orange" Guy (the guide says he's Yellow, not Orange 15:52) 4) If Susie is the 2nd UCN story, then the 4th kid would be the MM story, which matches the order from earlier 5) You get to the secret Pizzaplex "under construction" bit by going through an open door in Pizza Party's Backroom, located right next to Foxy. Possibly meaning Fritz saw Gabriel die and ran. One of the possible reason I came up with for why William would go to the kid's house. To silence the witness. Spring Bonnie does this in "Into the Pit". Chases the "Witness", Oswald, around the Pizzeria and even follows him home. And why would Fritz, the bullied kid, think his abusive parents would believe him when he says he saw a murder? 6) The frights story, Find player two, links Emmett Tucker, a suspect in a missing kid case (linking him to the possible person who was conficted instead of William for the MCI), to MM as he's described to live in the MM house, which is located next to a corn field. Funny that the Grim Foxy (The JackoFoxy thing from HW) Maze game takes place in a Corn Field. As for Gabriel's death: 1) Gabriel is normally placed 3rd, linking him to "Several live hostages". 2) It's Gabriel's 7th Birthday. Why would his mother say he had a rough day if he had a birthday party? (Unless he didn't, but then why threaten him, if he's gonna give him a birthday party) 3) if its Gabriel's birthday, then Spring Bonnie could've lured him with "hey your friends are planning a surprise in this secret room. Follow me" 4) The Forth Closet (TFC) describes an unnamed kid with BV's shirt on, as an MCI kid (Susie, Cassidy, and Fritz are named and described) The Graphic Novel then includes Gabriel in the roster of MCI kids. 5) Gabriel is a birthday kid, who wears BV's Shirt and has a relation to the bear animatronic, and who's death is related to a Springlock Suit. Gabriel appears to be a BV parrallel, which might explain why William targeted him. "If my kid didn't get a happy birthday, neither will you." (By this logic, BV could be 7 to link them even further. Both having a failed 7th birthday) Same thing could apply to Susie, Young Blonde girl, wears pink, could be an Elizabetg parrallel. (I believe she dies on Jan 7th 85, "1578" SL Baby voice ambience, so William targets someone who looks like his recently deceased Daughter?)

[@sambar2772]

The order of the kids is not solid. HW 2's order doesn't seem like the death order since the puppet is last. In Pizza Party, foxy is intact like the others and does have a birthday hat next to him. It's only Freddy that is dismantled. Which means Fritz did die before Gabriel. I trust the toy Chica cutscenes order more because there is nothing indicating it isn't. Yes, that would mean Susie is second. I don't think the line about being the first is about her death. Because if she died she wouldn't see anything. If she was the first come to life that would make more sense, since now she can see. Gabriel having a rough day is tough to argue. But maybe something happened that we don't know about And again, you have the fact that Gabriel in Pizza Party starts at his home, then end up at the Pizzeria. Also You're the Band having Gabriel being taken from his window into the woods, then into the Pizzeria, where he ends up in Freddy's place I feel like Gabriel is more likely the MM kid than Fritz.

[@thedarkdevil1661]

@sambar2772 as I mentioned, I don't trust the HW2 order either. The "Susie, Fritz, Gabriel, Jeremy, Cassidy" order is HW2. "Susie, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz, Cassidy" order is based on matching the order of the arcade buttons for Fnaf 3's Chica's party world with the arrangement of the kids in Fnaf 2's Give Gifts, Give Life minigame. (This is the order where Fritz is the MM kid) As for Toy Chica, I assume the first story is describing Charlie, William's first murder (a kid who can help Springbonnie with his "homework", as Henry is William's business partner). The second story is Susie's because William doesn't murder kids after Charlie until he kills Susie. Also, Susie is the FIRST mci kid in most orders, so that's pretty easy to pinpoint. Plus, there's my theory that he targetted her first because she's similar to Elizabeth. (Elizabeth dying on Jan 7th 1985 (1578 (order of numbers change each time) distorted ambience, plus the into the pit game has a Circus Baby poster in Freddy's, meaning Baby killed Elizabeth before the MCI), and William's first MCI victim has similar features to her) The same goes with my theory behind William killing Charlie after BV. She's Henry's favourite. "Your robot took my prized child, Henry. So now I'll take away yours" (The Silver Eyes says Charlie is "Daddy's girl") And then there's Gabriel being in a house before going to his birthday in the safe room. Along with the "You are the band" evidence, and those are the big ones that go towards Gabriel being the MM kid. Honestly, I thought HW2's order, along with Comedy bot saying Jeremy's parents, would leave him at his favourite restaurant, and I mean LEAVE. Abandon him. I thought at one point those, plus his stronger connection to Bonnie, via a Bonnie following him and kidnapping him (Similar to the theory that Cassidy was Springlocked, causing a stronger connection to that animatronic, Jeremy is gets linked to the rabbit animatronic), were stronger evidence for Jeremy to be the MM kid. But looking at the main evidence against Gabriel and some of the stronger pieces of evidence for Fritz. I'm more in the Fritz park now. Although I do question how the second MCI kid was lured? "My house was on fire"? What does that mean? Charlie is implied by TC in UCN to be lured because William needs help with his work. Susie is at the arcade and is lured by wanting to see her dog again. I like Gabriel being lured by the promise of a surprise party with "Several Live Host....".....all his friends present. And then the 4th, MM, kid sees the bodies, and William follows him home, like how Springbonnie follows/takes Oswald to his house in into the pit. And Cassidy is kidnapped because of William getting desperate as the MCI isn't resulting in any possession, hence why he decides to be more....Brutal with Cassidy (covering her with a bag, knocking her out and taking her to his car. And then goes to Freddy's and Springlocks her to try and force a possession. Which works...a little TOO well.

[@captainet2457]

Yeah, Fritz seems more likely

[@Duckduckmoose132]

@@sambar2772 i don't think that the HW2 mini game was saying that Charlotte's death was last, i think that it's saying that she is on top and is like more of a boss figure

[@ennard1789]

I fully agree. It's a shame there are only a few videos about MCIMM on youtube. This theory deserves way more attention than it has imo. Great video as always!

[@Wizardjones69]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i think flaf confirmed yellow guy as afton

[@aminethbt885]

Flaf is irrelevant

[@Wizardjones69]

@@aminethbt885 Welcome to Five Laps at Freddy's, The premier animatronic kart racing circuit featuring your favorite and lovable Fazbear friends! *Sponsored by Fazbear Entertainment* its a game in universe, its relevant

[@historyhub5389]

Is it just me, or does the scene in the FNAF movie where golden Freddy goes to Mike’s house to get Abby seem very similar to what we see in midnight motorist?

[@Red-jt6uu]

Regardless of which theory is right, how did couch person not hear the window being broken?

[@lilerrriya]

this theory is very interesting and everything seems to connect to the MCI!

[@SansINess53]

tbh, idk why people think michael is just messing with evan, because really are you gonna "mess" with your brother for 4-5 days straight?

[@kevinahm3773]

Idk if you will see this commend but if you change a bit of the lightning or something like that in midnight motorists the green guy in the front of JR‘S turns purple.

[@LeBasth]

If spring-Bonnie was out in the rain, the springlocks would've snap due to the contact with the water

[@Wizardjones69]

the rain starts after the kid was already kidnapped

[@nisharao1681]

I was confused about midnight motorist, but arent you gonna do full lore of fazbear fright and tales, finally 3 novel trilogy

[@SuperSonicbros4]

Not bad theory, like it. But I do prefer and believe the runaway being micheal (since the midnight motorist is connected to Fnaf 4, especially dittophobia having the player being a runaway, and the connections towards the Fnaf 4 gameplay), especially thanks to Squawks who made a great video on Michael motorist (its mainly kinda just his take on it that i personal believe). But not a bad one (also, again. I love the minigames sprites that you made) Edit: I might actually believe this theory instead Edit 2: nevermind

[@mylam658]

This theory is pretty good

[@foxybro7997]

Good points but I am still going to be a AftonMM and bv ranaway but thanks you really got me thinking about this theory.

[@SCP-469]

This has always been goofy cause HOW DO YOU KNOW JUST WHERE HE LIVES YOUR PIZZERIA IS OPEN AND FILLED WITH KIDS WHY TF YOU RISK YOUR LIFE FOR THIS ONE MF JUST STAY THERE BRO

[@Wizardjones69]

and toy chica does literally that in highschool years lol afton is a goofy British man

[@Red-jt6uu]

If the kid had his birthday at Freddy’s, the restaurant might have his address on file for billing purposes. Either that, or his father was THE town drunk and everybody knew where he lived so that they can tell their kids to avoid that house.

[@maleficdagon4538]

I have been leaving that theory in comments of every main stream theorist since release.

[@blueberryelf1150]

Few issues, the rain, tire tracks in the security pupet mini game are directly linked with MM with a purple car speeding away in the rain titled "later that night" in the files. You also say the house layout is inaccurate, and the mini games are usually accurate. One look at fnaf 2 death mini games would throw that point out the window, but even if we didn't, the house looks similar to the fnaf 4 title screen house as well as if you flip the path to the house it looks oddly like the fnaf 4 mini game path. As seen in other forms of fnaf media, spirits can physically manifest, explaining the footprints. You also say that the mini games are showing how the victims died, but if it was trying to do that, why only have 3 mini games? Why not all 6?

[@sambar2772]

Like I said, the similarities are supposed to make you think it's after Security Puppet. But the driver is orange, hence a red herring. The rain is also in Pizza Party And later that night could refer to the night of MM, not Security Puppet. Minigames are always simplified when trying to convey a large area. But there's difference between simplicity and inaccurate. The minigames in FNaF 2 and 3 are simplified, but the layout is always consistent, especially in save them and follow me. But the house in MM is not consistent with the fnaf 4 house, which is a minigame. The entrance to the home is different, Elizabeth's room is changed to BV's room and we Don't see the other room that appeared in FNaF 4. That's inaccurate, not simplified Alright, can you tell me one spirit in the franchise that can actually make a footprint That's not really an argument, since we still see 2 of Afton's victims. I don't know why Scott didn't show the others. But he did show them eventually in UCN, which has one of the victims of toy chica going to someone's home

[@blueberryelf1150]

@sambar2772 Scott going out of his way to create a red herring in what was supposed to be the final game, and even misleading people in the game files just seems unrealistic to me. Who is to say when a mini game is simplified or inaccurate? That's a hard argument to make imo. In the fnaf movie, Golden Freddy physically appears and can interact with the real world, as well as coming home, Chica can do the same. I'm confused if you are suggesting that Toy Chica literally explains what afton did to kill his victims because Afton telling a kid about a hostage crisis seems silly.

[@sambar2772]

It's really not. It's already obvious it's a red herring since the guy is orange and not purple Eyes m8. I can clearly see that the minigame home in MM does not align with FNaF 4 and SL. It's inaccurate not simplified. GF is not a ghost. Just because he can teleport doesn't mean it's a ghost. But I'll give you Chica. But you will still have to give me a pretty good reason why a shadow would want to show a kid a dead body and then dip for no reason Not really, Spring Bonnie can tell the kid that he can be a hero and save the hostages or his friends. Kids are gullible, why wouldn't they believe the cartoon character.

[@blueberryelf1150]

@sambar2772 just because two sprites are not identical doesn't mean they are not the same person, purple guy was also depicted as pink before, it's about everything else that surrounds the mini game that gives us a clue to him being Afton. Saying "eyes m8" is kinda condescending especially when in fnaf 3 the follow me mini games has a different but similar layout to fnaf 1 building, but most people still say it's the fnaf 1 building. Golden Freddy not being a ghost doesn't make sense to me, especially when its head can fly at you in fnaf 2. As I said, both GF and chica have both been shown physically interacting with the world as ghosts. To why he would appear in MM involves looking at those theories in particular. I agree that Toy Chica in UCN is a parallel to Afton, but I don't think it's exactly how he killed them. If that was the case, he would have killed most of the kids at either his house or their's. This also involves telling them that 1. He needs help with his homework. 2. There housebis on fire 3. He has taken multiple live hostages. This just does not line up with most of them dying in the backroom.

[@sambar2772]

Pink and purple are similar colors. And it's the same smiling man. It's obvious it's Afton. Orange a wildly different color than his iconic one. And there is no clues surrounding that orange guy's personality lines up with Afton. Just because he's an abusive dad, doesn't mean it's Afton. We already saw a plentiful of neglectful parents in Frights and Tales. And if you want me to use our surroundings in the minigame. Most of it conflicts with FNaF 4 and SL. The only thing that connects the two are the purple car and rain. That's it. And everything else around it doesn't line up I did not mean to be condescending Tell me one thing different in the layout of the Follow me minigames, except the invisible kitchen. Tell me one thing, because from what I can see, it's literally one to one with the FNaF 1 location. He has ghostly abelites. He's not a ghost itself. Puppet has ghostly abilities and she ain't a ghost Eleanor has ghostly abelites and she ain't a ghost They are all physically there Literally Chica's goal in these cutscenes is that she wants to take her victims to her "home". We can easily deduce that her home is representing the safe room. Freddy, goes to her home because of homework Wolf, goes to her home because of his dog toy bonnie, goes to her home because it's on fire Funtime foxy, goes to her home because Chica has taken hostages Puppet is taken from his home All of her victims, except Pigpatch, all go to her home Which means Afton took the first five to the safe room. I don't see the problem

[@watry824boy]

How did you get Gabriel's sprite ?

[@ennard1789]

He made it himself

[@saeklin]

One of the biggest misconceptions is that the serial killer wore the Spring Bonnie suit during the MCI. This is false. He wore a gutted Golden Freddy animatronic shell that was not a springlock suit. We learned this back in FNAF1 and it was confirmed in FNAF2. Of all the animatronics, why is Golden Freddy the only one not walking around? It's because someone tore out the animatronics so he could wear it and pretend to be an animatronic. Want proof? Golden Freddy has a bow tie. Spring Bonnie does not, nor does Springtrap or Plush Springtrap. And in Fruity Maze, the disguise has the bow tie, and we can't see the ears at all to say which character he was disguised as. I've gone back and forth on the theories about MM, but I am absolutely confident that the thing standing outside the window was Golden Freddy. Either it was the ghost haunting FoxyBro, or it was the killer luring out one of his victims. That particular victim was an abused child, something the killer probably knew and could take advantage of. I could make a whole outline for the runaway being FoxyBro, but right this second I think I would put my money on the child that would eventually wear the Golden Freddy mask. The set up with having a raging drunk father is to explain why Golden Freddy is such an outlier all this time. And he wears the Golden Freddy mask because he was the last victim and was left stuffed into the discarded Golden Freddy shell. Coincidentally, Toy Chica's 5th on-screen victim in High School Years was the one she kidnapped from home through a window, but I doubt the order of her victims matters. Another clue for all this is the MM character is yellow/orange/gold. If this was FoxyBro's father, he'd be red, because by this point Scott was putting an emphasis on color theming. And it's not Susie's father because he and the chair person refer to the runaway as "he". The mound of dirt could be Susie's dog, or it could be Yellow Man's deceased wife which might explain why he abuses the runaway.

[@ennard1789]

1. Steel Wool's Springbonnie model has a purple bowtie, movie version has a purple bowtie as well. Even in Into The Pit game you can see Springbonnie having a purple bowtie. 2. I'm sorry, but the head shape of a suit from Fruity Maze looks NOTHING like Golden Freddy's hade shape. Just compare it to Springbonnie's head shape. It's identical. Also, in Fruity Maze you can encounter yellow bunnies poking out of the ground, which is also an obvious hint. 3. In every continuity thus far William always used Springbonnie for the MCI. It's one of the details that don't change across continuities. Silver Eyes? He used Springbonnie. (He did use Golden Freddy but only for Michael Brooks though, so it's possible that he used GF suit for one kid, or maybe he used it for the DCI kids, which I believe he did) The movie? He used Springbonnie. And Frights, if you don't believe they are in the games (I do think they are a part of game continuity), also show that William used Springbonnie. It's as consistent as MCI being in the 80s or Purple Guy being named William Afton. I do agree however that he used Golden Freddy suit for the DCI kids, because as FNaF 3 minigames show us, Springbonnie was locked in the safe room after the MCI, so there was no way for William to use it.

[@saeklin]

@@ennard1789 The springlock suits, including the whole Spring Bonnie character, did not exist yet when Scott made FNAF1 and FNAF2. So what "yellow suit" did the culprit wear, if Spring Bonnie didn't exist yet? Why did the Golden Freddy animatronic in FNAF1 have wires sticking out of its eyes and lay slumped on the floor? Because the killer tore out the framework so he could wear it. Phone Guy said that the shell pieces have framework in them that would make getting "stuffed" a deadly experience.

[@mylam658]

​@@saeklinit may have been Golden Freddy's suit at one point, but little details like that can retroactively change you know

[@captainet2457]

Question, how is Gabriel the protagonist of HW? I never played so I don’t know

[@sambar2772]

I mean in context of the game itself. Vanessa is the protagonist of HW.

[@captainet2457]

@@sambar2772 how do we know it’s Gabriel’s party?

[@captainet2457]

@Sonicmid how do we know it’s Gabriel party?

[@sambar2772]

We have a birthday cake next to us before being killed. And we are stuffed into Freddy, who is possessed by Gabirel

[@captainet2457]

@@sambar2772 oh okay

[@watry824boy]

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[@watry824boy]

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[@mouseyboy427]

In the thumbnail it’s TRULY, no E

[@spooks8900]

THE GOAT

[@watry824boy]

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[@RWQFSFASXC-y7s]

great video dude

[@pedenrique3429]

Who are the player in Help Wanted? It can't be Vanessa. It wouldn't make sense for her to have to listen to her own recordings to know what to do

[@docorid4042]

Vanessa is not Tape Girl

[@UltraNP11]

is that a genuine question? If so, tape girl isn't Vanessa, and in the Dreadbear DLC (I think) we literally see the player/Vanessa get the Vanny mask

[@pedenrique3429]

@@UltraNP11 Still makes no sense. In my opinion, Vanessa is Tape Girl. The mask that the player finds in Help Wanted is probably the mask that Jeremy is wearing in Help Wanted 2. Or else we're playing with another protagonist in Help Wanted.

[@docorid4042]

@@pedenrique3429 It's not Jeremy's mask. When player wears the mask and holds the Glitchtrap plush the protagonist will start speaking with the plush, talking about the vanny suit and other things.

[@pedenrique3429]

@@docorid4042 Well, but about the ending of Help Wanted, it's just speculation. We don't know if it's the player character who's speaking or if they're listening to the Plush. Jeremiah might have gotten hold of a prototype of the mask and worked on it to access the network. Like I said, it doesn't make sense for us to be playing as Vanessa and for her to have to listen to all these recordings made by herself.

[@_H1p0_]

Peak

[@tylerrodriguez8346]

This theory is wrong because of the rain it would've killed william in his spring bonnie suit like it did in fnaf 3 sorry but i think scott really pushed the idea in this game that midnight motorist was after he killed Charlotte in the back alley as the weather doesn't change and it's called later that night

[@ennard1789]

He gave 3 possible explanations for the rain thing. Later that night could mean literally anything alse. William is purple, not yellow.

[@watry824boy]

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[@mr.snitters5281]

Fix that thumbnail my man

[@Cross_Corp64]

Sorry pal, this didn’t age well

[@aminethbt885]

Irrelevant

[@Cross_Corp64]

@@aminethbt885 Flaf is literally an official game produced by Scott Cawthon. So Flaf is canon, and yet Scott didn’t ask to change the Midnight Motor car. Flaf might be treated like the Novel Trilogy after all

[@aminethbt885]

@@Cross_Corp64 a game created by a team of FNaF fans and people that still don't know the lore. It seems clear why they added MM the game, because it's a minigame in the FNaF universe that's related to cars. The entire game isn't Scott's idea, Scott only gives them the license to do it. I highly HIGHLY doubt Scott would let such a huge debate end in a demo of a spinoff kart racer game, in a TEASER actually, before the demo even released, that's insane. I don't think that's how Scott would let a lore drop just like that. Not to mention we know that house does NOT belong to the Aftons.

[@Wizardjones69]

@@aminethbt885 sorry but the springbonnie antenna is just a confirmation

[@aminethbt885]

@@Wizardjones69 well not really. That game is completely irrelevant to me.

[@watry824boy]

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