What is Scheuermann's Disease?

From famouspt.com/ "Famous" Physical Therapists, Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck, explain in depth what Scheuermann's Disease is.
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[@drewboyling7992]

Hi there guys. Thank you for your video. I am 53 and have this disease and for you to say that it does not affect your life is a gross misrepresentation. It hurts. It affects every aspect of your life. Young people with this condition need to be aware that they will suffer.

[@jessicawarn2010]

100% they are Ignorant. Probably because neither have it.

[@joeangel6281]

I’m 17 currently suffering from it working 7days a week doing aircon and refrigeration my back is quite literally f***ked and I’ve been thinking about quitting because I can’t physically do it

[@قرءانكريم-ك3ح]

​@@joeangel6281😢Man, I'm 16 and it's holding me back from everything and also problems with my urinary bladder

[@geoffw506]

29 years old with moderate Scheuermann's disease: I thought I just had bad posture growing up but once I got an office job my upper back pain got really bad from sitting down all day. Took me multiple specialists and an x-ray to finally get diagnosed (not many people know about this disease). I've found that yoga is the only way to keep the pain at bay and i have to do it every day because it creates all sorts of imbalances in the body not just the spine (tight hamstrings, shrugged shoulders, tight hips and neck ect.). I also I got a standing desk at work to vary my posture throughout the day. I know there's different levels of severity and I hope everyone can find some relief.

[@maigenpierce]

Thank you for the explanation, I was diagnosed when I was 19, it was there when younger; but due my legs giving way and being in traction, the doctors did a thorough examination. A few years later they did a procedure called the Nestfield treatment. Then I endure horrific domestic violence and was severely kicked around the treated area, now I am wheelchair bound with scoliosis from the severe kicks to my body. My bent position is helped by sitting up right doing meditation and breathing to relieve the pain. I have also severe nerve damage in my spine. You are great in your explanation, thank you.

[@captainmidnight8039]

I have this. It's destroyed my life.

[@lauramellor5274]

Everyone thought I just had bad posture and I never understood why I could not be straight. Tried to complain to a doctor once that maybe I have scoliosis or something but he said nothing wrong with me. Beware not all doctors will stay professional they get tired fed up and stop caring about their patient relationships and overall health. Cuz like I said I have Sherman's disease and doctor said nothing wrong with me when I was younger

[@molemrtin3931]

I’m 15 and I have this I cry every night

[@wtficantgetausername]

relax guys its not the end of the world

[@mizuno522]

@@molemrtin3931 I have diagnosed at 12 and I'm 37 now. It sucks but to do it all over again I would have wore my brace more

[@just_some_bloke]

@@wtficantgetausername some days the pain makes you wish it was

[@inpitlane]

I have suffered from this for over 50 years. I have not had a single day without severe pain. I have tried every kind of treatment out there but nothing has helped. For anybody to say this doesn't cause pain is insane.

[@lookitsdivadan]

I’ve had it for about 15 years. Again, excruciating and debilitating pain. Oftentimes I have days where I can’t get dressed properly.

[@Monkeyman-qt1sm]

For real..

[@dingleberryjones09]

16 years here with severe kyphosis due to this, honestly been contemplating suicide because nothing helps my pain. i’ve had it for just two years and seeing y’all going so long with it makes me feel even more weak, glad y’all are so strong. keep going friends ❗️🖤

[@inpitlane]

@@dingleberryjones09 It sounds silly but you do get used to it and "at least in my case" as you get older the really severe pain and episodes of back spasms gets less and less. I haven't had a really debilitating episode of severe pain for a while. It's more now like a constant ache that reminds you to just be careful. One problem here is Doctors will not offer serious pain killers anymore due to addiction risk. That's all well and good but sometimes you do really need something stronger than an over the counter pain killer to at least get some decent sleep.

[@MySpaceDxC_Suffo_AtTheGates]

I’ve been taking pain medicine since age 15 in various forms due to this disease.

[@dvchel]

My grandpa, dad and sister have this disease. When i was around 10 years old I started walking with my upper back forward. So my parents acted fast and signed me up for a special program focused to decrease the effect of scoliosis and scheuermann, and the kyphosis has decreased significantly. My sister and father don't have it as bad as me and my grandpa but they still have it, this proves it's genetic. I'm 16 years old now (diagnosed when I was 10). I can still create a large hunchback if I don't watch my back. My only concern is that it's not known well so no one (in my school ex.) can understand.

[@oumadam6309]

I wich you see my comment .... do you have now a good posture ... i am 30 years old and i want change my posture... and what kind of sport did you practise?

[@JenniferAmyFriesen]

Unfortunately I suffer from this condition. I believe you need some education on a disease you should know more about. You are not physicians. You are chiropractors. Patients with SD should not seek chiropractic care as it will cause more harm than good. The main problem with SD is that MANY patients that have this disease have such vast range in severity. Some barely affected, some like myself suffer from rib cage compression, stenosis in my neck cause migraines, nerve pain, muscle spasms, osteoarthritis in my left hip, lumbar and neck. Extremely tight fascia causing more muscle issues. I have intestinal issues from internal organ pressure, breathing problems, height loss, loss of feeling in my extremities. So to say this condition is not completely debilitating is incredible ignorant. I am 27 years old, diagnosed at 16. I live in doctor's offices'. I'm lucky enough to live in Canada and I am able to receive adequate care. My body is slowly collapsing in on itself and for you to play it off as some sort of minor inconvenience is actually offensive. We are speaking in terms of if you had cancer the difference between stage 1 and stage 4. I'd check your blissful ignorance at the door gentleman. Do you understand how rare this genetic condition is. I'm not speaking to people with kyphosis which is something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than SD. Kyphosis is postural and SD is a genetic deformity juvenile osteochondrosis. If I know the difference then so should you. It is an estimated 0.08% of the female population have this condition which means you're more likely to have Alzheimer's disease, Huntington's Disease, or Parkinson's disease. That's a pretty small pool of people who have this in a progressive form.

[@conicalplanes9258]

*Physical Therapist

[@johanmatteuzzi9054]

I also suffer from this. My lungs is decompressed and iam i chronic pain every day. Nothing can be done whit surgery. I have to depend och pain pills to be able to work. Some days i cant even get out of bed. It felt very bad to see you 2 talk about this as IF its Nothing. We Who have it is in pain... All The time.

[@johanmatteuzzi9054]

Very good answer thank you!

[@homebass3426]

Yes! Thank you for this. I wasn't diagnosed until I was 20. I had seen numerous doctor's and they all told me I was fine. Then I went through multiple physical therapies, steroid injections, rhizotomy and finally pain medication. I hate taking pain meds but it was the only thing that helped me get through the day. Now with so many restrictions many, many doctors don't prescribe pain medication which absolutely screws everyone with chronic pain just trying to live our lives. My doctor dropped me because the DEA was up his ass saying they were waiting for him to fuck up so they could arrest him. As far as I know he only had a few pain management patients. So then I went back to my super expensive pain management clinic that years earlier had diagnosed me and prescribed pain medication and they put me on non-narcotic "pain meds" that do absolutely nothing. I'm now unemployed and have trouble sleeping even with 3 muscle relaxers. My life has gone to shit. I'm in constant pain and nothing helps. I went to a chiropractor when I was 16 after many doctors told me there was nothing wrong. I regret that decision. I think they made my condition worse. I felt better while going but if I missed one session my back was worse than before. Does anyone here have any suggestions that help you? My curve is pretty pronounced and it curves back in on my lower back making a "dent" in my lower back.

[@just_some_bloke]

I got blessed with both sheuermann's disease and multiple sclerosis

[@CybersecurityChicago]

I was diagnosed with sheuermanns disease at age 24 and with mild scoliosis. You guys are wrong because this disease does progress and get worse, my kyphotic curve was around 40+ degrees at age 24 with a 10+ degree scoliosis. The curve continued to progress and by the age of 28 my kyphotic curve was 65 degrees, luckily I found a neurosurgeon who operated on my back from T8 -T12, now my back is almost posturally normal but my pain is still there, now I have multiple bulging discs in my lumbar and cervical spine due to the surgery putting pressure on the cervical and lumbar spine, also due to what I also have degenerative disc disease. I have sciatica and numbness in hands and feet and I'm not able to be standing for too long without severe back pain. In the process of going back to my neurosurgeon to see what he can do for me, well good luck and best wishes to anybody suffering from back problems..

[@CybersecurityChicago]

+Azpups hello, I ended up getting a second spinal fusion on October 26, 2015 because my screws from T12 became loose which was the reason for my continued pain a couple months after surgery. I am now fused from T8 to L2. My posture is basically normal now but I do have a lot of lumbar pain and nerve pain that will probably never go away, but overall I am much better off than before. Good luck to you and I wish you the best.

[@MaximC]

winnemac03 Where do you live? Did you ever think of consulting a skilled corrective chiropractor? If you are from US, I know there is great guy for spinal health John Bergman in California. Hopefully you live near California...

[@just_some_bloke]

I was diagnosed at 37 after what I thought was a work injury. I tried to keep working but was put off due to the amount of meds I was taking, Tramadol, panediene forte and vailium. T6 and T7 are wedged and have schmorls nodes. I spent my working life carrying ladders and tool boxes around and the downward pressure of my back made the pain too much to bear. 7 years later and a change of job but I am still on 500mg tramadol a day, My posture looks totally normal though.

[@Noemi_esquivez]

Glad your posture is good. What did you do to treat the wedge

[@hardstyle001]

I’m 39 just got diagnosed with this! But same hard working days are becoming painful

[@just_some_bloke]

@@hardstyle001 Do you have the hunchback kind of posture or normal? I had to stop working for other health reasons but after getting off the tools and not constantly putting pressure on it, I have dropped down to 100mg tramadol. Hopefully off it sometime soon. A desk job might help.

[@just_some_bloke]

@@Noemi_esquivez Pain killers! I was offered to have them fused together but was reluctant to try due to risky complications of surgery. These days I am off the tools and have dropped down to only tramadol 100mg per day. If I have a big weekend in the yard it still gets sore so I might take a couple of panediene forte.

[@hardstyle001]

I’m only on Panadine forte at the moment. The past few days no pain but haven’t been working much. I have a small hunch back, but dad all ways said my posture was bad and to sit up straight. I was playing a lot of golf last year and some this year .. I don’t think helps, that was my last flare up was immediately after golf. But can flare up from long drives in the car too

[@MaryamaAmina]

i wish you guys were closer to the camera or maybe some one holding the camera but thanks for the explanation. you brought the words from my book to life.

[@jasong6702]

I'm almost 50 and I was just diagnosed with this by a specialist. IFollowing a tailbone injury a decade ago I've developed a lot of ongling back issues, bulging disks etc...I had no pain issues as a younger person. Following an MRI this was diagnosed. My discs appear to have either taken this form, or it was always there but never knew it.

[@AJ-rx6mq]

How can you say this does not cause disability????? Each cases severity is different many cases might not be but the more severe cases most certainly are. Extreme degeneration of discs and extreme curvature of the spine causing pressure on the spinal cord!!! I am in constant pain so much so i am bed ridden most of the day. The pain meds barely touch the pain and because of Drs new attitude toward Opioid Pain Management has changed people suffering with spinal problems and pain are the ones who get thrown under true bus and suffer needlessly.

[@homebass3426]

Yes! This has happened to me as well. I was managing with pain medication. I was making 15 dollars an hour at 25 in a career with a lot of upwards mobility. I had only been there for about 2 years and got multiple promotions. The doctors have gotten do strict with main medication they took me off of it. I hate the fuzziness of pain meds but it made my life bearable. I'm now unemployed because I couldn't stand the pain and missed a lot of work because of it. People who sold the meds and abused them without any pain totally screwed over everyone with pain. One thing I hate about this disease is noone understands how much pain I am in. They can't see it other than the curve. When I'm in a lot of pain and am unable to do much of anything everyone expects me to do shit I can't do. If I were in a wheelchair or even just had a broken leg everyone would see and understand how limited my function really is. My pain had gotten much worse in the past year so my pain is worse than when I was on pain meds and as of today I still can't get anything that actually helps my pain.

[@jflsdknf]

My curve is 55 degrees and I am disabled. Things that bring on or worsen the pain include too much activity, sitting (the pressure of a hard chair back pressing against my curve), and cold weather. Only laying down relieves the pressure and gives some relief. That is not disabled?!

[@AJ-rx6mq]

@@homebass3426 so sorry to hear that! My situation i is almost identical!!

[@kaitlin4u]

He literally said “for most people” I have this and it is not debilitating for me at all. I have upper back pain and struggle standing straight but it does not cause a disability or ruin my life

[@gumbymoo]

They say it don't affect your life bullshit. I can't work full time cause of this. Always in pain. It also cost me a lot of money in phisio and chiropractor. I suffer regularly headaches, mirages, bone stiffness. I can't even do simple things around the house without being in pain. They don't know what there talking about cause they haven't experienced it. I also kyphosis

[@lisaeischens2352]

gumbymoo When they outright say this will not cause pain, that is bullshit!

[@lisaeischens2352]

I was a gymnast and hurdler for years plus worked as a RN in heavy lifting jobs for years until everything fell apart at 39. Constant thoracic pain and intermittent lower back pain. I don’t like how they say with 100% conviction that something won’t cause back pain. No wonder pain patients are treated like liars!

[@gabbiebarnard7580]

I've never been able to work with this stupid spine. I get pain from doing the most basic things. Was diagnosed between the ages of 13 and 16 because the doctors didn't know what it was. I also have scoliosis and lordosis. My life was over before it began. This disease sucks. I'd love for it not to effect me physically. It has also caused anxiety and depression from the constant pain and the bullying I endured at school. Quasimodo was made to give the bullies a perfect name to tease me with.

[@jflsdknf]

Agree, I’ve had severe pain from it since I was 16. I can’t work or do things around the house either. This is a horrible deformity that impacts so much of your life, only someone who has experienced it can understand.

[@TwistedMusicFacebookGroupandPa]

I'm 40yrs old and was diagnosed with this yesterday, along with Cuada equina syndrome 🤨🙁

[@dingleberryjones09]

how’s that going for you now

[@happyelf8455]

Always in awe of your celebrity and expertise

[@lauramellor5274]

Just got diagnosed at the same time as 2slipped disc were my kyphosis caused my the Sherman disease never knew I had it until age 23

[@awarenessuk4133]

Am 44 and just got diagnosed? Have had over 10 L, T and C MRI scans over 15 years but just got recognised?

[@racer008racer]

38 years old and just told I have this after MRI showing obvious wedge shaped vertebrae and kyphosis even on MRI table

[@lisaeischens2352]

Tim Daniels I was told I had this at 39 and then another Dr said I have Juvenile Discogenic Disease. I only have 1 wedged vertebrae but have the thoracic bone spurs, scoliosis, schmorals node, etc. I had constant mid back pain until I had radio frequency ablation to T 9-12. Now it’s after I sit for more than 20 minuets and the only thing that helps is if I lay flat.

[@just_some_bloke]

I was 37 when diagnosed

[@jflsdknf]

I wouldn’t wish this disease on anyone. And you’re WRONG about it not causing disability or pain. This can be an extremely painful and life altering deformity.

[@gigigardner8999]

Is it bad if you haven’t been diagnosed until 40 or above?

[@janeewen2994]

My son was recently diagnosed with scheurmans disease at 19 years old after falling from a height and injuring his back. I am feeling very guilty as a mother for not noticing anything when he was growing up. I don't think he has a curve to his spine when looking at him. He's quite tall at 6" 2' and when in his younger teens complained of aches that doctors put down to growing pains. What advice can you give now. Will it cause him any problems in the future.

[@cerealscrub4609]

Don't feel guilty at all! A lot of times it doesn't even hurt or show until the child grows into an adult. I never had one issue until I was about 18. Saw some doctors throughout the years and they said it was muscle spasms. Turns out, 23 years later they tell me I have this disease and two herniated discs in the thoracic spine which has kept me down for years. I don't blame my mom. No way she could have known. Just be there for him is all. God bless!

[@flashrobbie]

52 -have had a mild undiagnosed case of it until yesterday.

[@PvtPartzz]

Would love for you all to revisit this. As another commenter expressed, many of us diagnosed with this disease *do* face debilitating pain that has had catastrophic effects on our lives. Either our diagnosis’s are all wrong or there is something significantly wrong about the medical understanding of what happens to the body when this happens. Someone’s missing something. I’ve had debilitating back pain for 19 years and I’ve seen several doctors about my condition and all have expressed the same understanding you guys did but that has not been the case for me. My doctors haven’t been able to anything for me but give painkillers. Anyone that knows anything about addiction should see why that’s not ideal. There are probably many thousands of people in the same sort of situation and without necessarily meaning to, many doctors and therapists who simply repeat what’s been said about Scheuermann’s have contributed to the opioid epidemic. Do them all a service and bring back the discussion.

[@user-th9vq1mi9s]

I am 40 years plus and just diagnosed with it

[@jennypockets]

Not cause any disability? my foot! It depends on the individual. I've found it causes crippling pain which can't easily be alleviated. Excercises, physiotherapy, and painkillers don't help the pain much, though the physiotherapy at least means I can stay upright. But then, I wasn't diagnosed until my mid thirties.

[@jasoar1563]

pretty much stated getting this disease at age 10-12 and turned me into a fucking weird looking kid with social insecurity issues and lost many years due to lack of confidence and anxiety. i do train at the gym but my body is worn out and my joint hurt, pretty much look like im fat when im not and get alot of chest pain and stiffness in my legs and neck.

[@G00NIE]

Why are we all 35+yr males just being diagnosed recently? Lol.

[@jonathanmiller7499]

38 years old. Just diagnosed

[@Meta.Madness]

Im 27, was diagnosed with this on my birthday this year after being misdiagnosed since 14 years old (possibly longer). I was finally put on pain medication this year. It is horrible, i have had multiple falls on my back at heights from bike racing as a teenager, and my everyday pain is close to the pain shortly after a fall. I cant stand, i cant turn my head to the right. I have burning in my hands and feet constantly. It causes major intenstine pain and i also have trouble breathing with a tight chest and ribs.

[@beatz3279]

If one has this and has TOS very badly with brachiel plexus nerve damage and partially disablrd right arm would TOs surgery not help due to it being a structural spine issue. ? After Chiro and oesteo i feel much better and relaxed nervous system for about a day yhen my body reverts straight back to this hell. TOS surgery is on the table but im terrified it may make me worsr given the cause is from hunched curved spine

[@BobandBrad]

Surgery is always scary, however sometimes it is necessary. We wouldn't be able to say for sure if it is this way with your case or not, we would feel more comfortable having a proper examination and have that doctor decide what's best in your specific case.

[@beatz3279]

@@BobandBrad Thankyou

[@shagjagjim]

Wife has this n never had symptoms till she started aging now 70 she is shibbled up n her breast rest on her stomach! Hunched over! She stretches n wears a back brace also a tilt table!

[@jcweld]

It's misleading to say it won't be diagnosed in adulthood. I think you mean it presents at a younger age and carries through adulthood. Most of us are probably diagnosed in adulthood since doctors seem to just not get it. I even went to a doctor for an unrelated issue in my forties. I had a chest X-ray showing the tell-tale wedged vertebrae and she asked me if I knew about my scoliosis. I had to educate her on Scheuermann's, which she'd never heard of!

[@jasonmullinder]

as a teen I was diagnosed but not really given any information other then it is a curvature of the spine and no reccomendations what to do about it, I've only recently realized it is a problem with my upper back even though for years i have been adjusting my shoulders and stretching the upper part from discomfort, for some reason i thought the lower spine was curved inwards. Now i finally understand issues I have with backpacks and certain tight clothing

[@oumadam6309]

Did you fix you kyphosis

[@jasonmullinder]

@@oumadam6309 no never got any real advice, it's always been relatively minor and hasn't noticeably degraded

[@willy2234]

I was diagnosed at 10. 😔

[@rachelshaub4924]

I am needing to know what my risks are and what can happen I have Scheuermann's Disease..... I am 6 weeks pregnant and very over weight and really scared about what could happen when i was little i was told it cpuld paralyze me i found out when i was 12 that i have this and im now 25 this is my first baby. Help me out please

[@OfficialOGJ]

How did it go?

[@ahmadshahkingkhan4726]

Is there any difference between SCHEUERMANN'S and thoracic kyphosis? If it is which one is more complex means can't be treated?

[@kennethheil2381]

Lol I think you were talking about Milan Lucic? It’s pronounced “Mee Lahn Loo Cheech” lol good video guys

[@sethtaft7061]

I don't normally comment but I'm adding my voice to the list of people pushing back against the insane suggestion that this isn't debilitating. I'm 33 and just got diagnosed with this, as well as multilevel disc disease as a result. Please take this video down and post one with correct information.

[@rexiile9284]

Hey this is a weird question but ill ask it anyway. i have a 70 degree curve on my Thoracic spine and im 16 years old do you think playing football would be ok? like if if i get hit where the curve is will that be bad?

[@trinagreenwood3610]

My son was diagnosed with it his freshman year. He finished out the season but doctors at St. Louis Children's hospital told him to stop playing. He played for 6 years. He stopped after his freshman year.

[@mypantswet]

I just got diagnosed with this. can i still play basketball as i play competitively

[@jasoar1563]

iam number1 no your life is over..

[@Kiko6Kiko]

Of course you can. You just have to strengthen your back muscles and don't do very dynamic movements

[@oumadam6309]

Of course basket is very helpfull

[@nonutsnorris]

Over 40's not diagnosed with it? Would they like to see my Xray results? Im 42 :/

[@TwistedMusicFacebookGroupandPa]

I'm 40 and was diagnosed yesterday

[@just_some_bloke]

I was diagnosed at 37

[@gretchentrushell2600]

What is sheuremann disease

[@ebrahembenbadis590]

Algeria hallo

[@scottblyth5940]

Probably wouldn’t go on about stuff you clearly don’t know about 🤦‍♂️

[@brichi5407]

I was diagnosed at 43 so that’s not true

[@SladeOb]

Doesn't cause any disability. Lol ok. This is pure ignorance. Maybe for some, not so for many. I've had this since i was 12. Was told then it would resolve. Just got worse. I'm 35 now and this has defined my life. I've done a lot just the same and i will keep going until I just break completely, but this disease conquers people. It's like having a ball of gnawing pain and suffering in the center of the fabric of your being, it's sole purpose seemingly to haunt your existence at every turn, it never sleeps, rarely subsides at all and gets worse at the drop of a hat. Especially when you're doing something you love. If your vanity gets the best of you or you just do as people say and work on your posture you will often see people overcompensating with excessive anterior tilt. Then you will start to have low back, sacroiliac, hip and knee issues. If you're real lucky like me you have connective tissue issues and an unrelated injury leading to a cervical fusion, just for good measure. You do your nephew a disservice. Maybe he gets lucky, I sure hope so. Would be better to level with him and tell him to buckle up and get ready for hell. The one upside is i have an iron will and through great suffering I have learned so much. Your greatest gifts can come by way of your greatest suffering. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck. Many things can be true at once. To anyone dealing with this or similar godspeed to you. Hold on. Shoot me an email if you need support. Happy to talk. enorivers @ protonmail.com

[@lornz5374]

might or might not cause pain...but it is terribly bad for your self image to know you look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame to other people...