What is Schizotypal Personality Disorder?

[@StarkRavn]

I'm Schizotypal and I actually really like interacting with people, having friends, I may not be able to have them close to me, but I still want them there. I still want to talk to them, rant to them. Go out drinking with them. And I am not good at talking to people I don't know, so making new friends can be difficult, so I use my eccentricities to my advantage, dressing outlandishly so that interresting people start talking to me. That have worked pretty well so far :D

[@lucashjelvik1738]

Same

[@faehood7419]

Same!!!

[@mahuprabhune9474]

We're exactly on the same page!!

[@cashfearmusic]

I’m curious about what you mean by “outlandish”. Do you wear something in the realm of an Austin Powers pimp suit from the 70’s night club in Goldmember? Because if not than you’re not dressing outlandishly.

[@courtneymeyers82]

Yes, we actually start trends lol

[@BabyZelda]

I'm Schizotypal. Nice to see a good video on it! There aren't many Schizotypal vids on KZbin.

[@ReaderOfThreads]

Me too!

[@Jasminiumusic]

Same, I thought I was the only one...

[@crimsonking4757]

So am I, at age 44....it sucks, never had a relationship of any kind in my life....I'm seriously considering suicide the last couple of days.

[@nathancifuentes2448]

Crimson King FOR WHAT?

[@nathancifuentes2448]

Crimson King & No I dont have this so called Schizotypal , I just found this video

[@thebioexorcists]

I was recently diagnosed as having Schizotypal Personality Disorder. I am also diagnosed as having Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (Inattentive Type), Panic Disorder w/o Agoraphobia and Generalized Anxiety Disorder from 7 years ago. I found your video to be very interesting, informative and to-the-point. Thank you so much for making this video and please keep up the good work!!!

[@ryanmcdarby]

I have Schizotypal Personality Disorder & my main issues are with interacting with other people. I very rarely talk to anybody but close family members & even then I feel very suspicious & uncomfortable. I will sometimes force myself to be around other people - I go to a gym to box for an hour once a week for example, but I never really make friends & I feel as though people can see that there's something wrong with me or that they're suspicious of me. It's like I don't know how to behave naturally or ''normally'' & so I have to imagine what a normal person would say & do & try my best to act it out - which is very stressful. I know a lot of people will say "but what is normal" etc etc, but those people really aren't helping. Having a schizotypal illness is VERY different to being an unusual or unconventional person. I wish everyone the best of luck managing their illness. I am currently prescribed pregablin for my anxiety and would like to know about the medications others are prescribed & if they help at all x

[@andreasn1481]

hey man this is how i see it. you gotta work out more often, even if it means boxing more days a week, and you gotta try to eat right. and you gotta read books, and calm yourself down frequently despite medication. you feel people can see something wrong with you or are suspicious about you, because you are suspicious of other people and are looking for something wrong in others. to change that and feel like people can warm up to you and trust you, you need to apply those rules to yourself and how you view others. smart people cant tell exactly whats wrong with someone, but they pick up on someones vibe, their energy, like the hippie types love to say xD and people will generally be cautious around any person who seems suspicious or paranoid about others, because suspicion/paranoia easily turns into aggression in many cases of the population as a whole, such as bipolars, crystal meth psychosis, etc. keep working on yourself and look for positive opportunities, try to trust people that you dont have a concrete reason to not trust.

[@ryanmcdarby]

Kurt Andreas Kurt Andreas Thanks for the effort, but I think you're confusing a healthy mind that has become suspicious/paranoid & needs some work with a chemical condition that cannot be altered though effort or insight. Yes, exercise helps - yes many things can help one improve & cope better. But Schizoptypal disorders are incurable & the process occurs automatically. There's no point where you can check yourself & say 'I can see where I'm going wrong here'. It's constant - 24hrs a day. For 15 years I've read self help books, tried diets, exercised like mad - & and above all tried to understand the problem, which is impossible because the tool used to understand that problem is damaged. You can improve or cope better with SPD but you can't fix it. It's a schizophrenic illness.

[@teve709]

I was diagnosed with SPD and here in Danmark they just want you to use Abilify, it is just so sad!

[@joetaro69]

@@teve709 did you try this ?

[@peppapig6466]

I feel like this too

[@johnswanson739]

I just today learned that my 38-year-old son was diagnosed some time ago with schizotypal personality disorder. How this diagnosis has come to me so late in our lives has an explanation too Shakespearean to present here. But I write to say thank you for your video. Your characterization of the disorder fits him and helps me understand him and provides some ideas for guidance. And some hope. It also gives me insight into my father. And once my wife finds out, she too will see the propriety of the diagnosis for her stepson, she will recognize my father as well, and then she will no doubt raise an accusatory finger at me and say, “Ah ha! It was you all along!” Perhaps not the time for a joke. That my son may be so afflicted… Then again, perhaps this is just the time for humor. In any case, thank you for your work here.

[@nadinechen8819]

I was diagnosed 10 years ago and I personally feel this is a very good and nonjudgemental overview. Im actually surprised, I feared the worst because many are looking down on it (even therapists) while they talk about it. I have seen one therapist making a video saying "Being honest, who would want a friend like that" and not gonna lie that hurt a little becuase he said it so matter-of-factly. So Im very grateful seeing a kind and informative video like this, thank you!

[@erinowl4407]

Thank you for the video. I was diagnosed with Schizotypal Personality Disorder as well as Complex PTSD. I switched therapists. WOW - what a difference. My new therapist said she doesn't agree with the term "DISORDER" and likes to use the word "CONSTRUCT" instead. And started off by telling me she believes everyone is already WHOLE INSIDE. This made me feel "BETTER" from the get-go. Instead of looking at a broken MESS of DISORDER, hoping to pick up all these broken pieces and somehow "fit" them into a fragmented, glued together "image" that would somehow and hopefully "FORM A PERSON" someday, she started me right off from a CENTERED place of WHOLENESS with CONSTRUCTS all around me - some maladaptive, some not so much - but all helped ME - the ME inside - to SURVIVE. Schizotypal personality constructs, complex post traumatic stress constructs .... The "WORK" then becomes looking at and dealing with the CONSTRUCTS - keeping / embracing them, modifying them, getting rid of them ...... from a place of STRENGTH, CHOICE and WHOLENESS. I am SO GLAD I found a therapist who can TRULY HELP - and only a few weeks into therapy - I am now reading "THE UNTETHERED SOUL" - who am I? - who is the ME? - who are the "VOICES"? - a very SLOW READ. Your video made me feel OK - I'm different - but it's OK - being alone is OK - I don't have to FIX all this "DISORDER" - all these CONSTRUCTS - I just have to see that I am ME - and decide what is comfortable and productive for ME to BE WHO I AM. Thank you . Thank you. Your videos have been SOOOOOOO helpful !!!!!

[@TintinMinh]

Very self-actualized! Thanks for sharing your story!

[@triadtelio9858]

My last "therapist" called me a dog and started to point fingers around to see if my head/eyes would follow her hand like a hound/animal would. after that she sent me to the psydoctor with no new appointment . It might be my "magical" thinking but i see some karma equilibrium coming her way.

[@bigtimefans100]

aw, I'm glad you found a therapist that works for you. sending all my love

[@fromeveryting29]

I think my former roommate had this, and it was a blast! For some reason I really felt like we spoke the same language. We would speak about life and art for hours. Always in a 'magical' and interpretive way. We would speak about love, astrology, saturn, energies, evil, fate, will. We were both artists and I guess that made me really open for symbolic ways of understanding things. I never really got his paranoya or anxiety though. He came off as very confident and was very popular among women. I on the other hand had strong fears of intimacy and was very passive in social situations.

[@ashtinpaulet3112]

I love your videos. I'm a 911 operator and I love my job but it can be stressful at times. I wanted to know could you do a video about people who have jobs like me "first responders" and how to deal with the stress and anxiety especially when you're not at liberty to talk about the things that go on with others.

[@NASkeywest]

I used to have a shadow that followed me. Always thought i was just crazy. Last month my friend was over at my house and saw the shadow to. Spirits are real

[@Amelia-pt7fh]

Or it’s just your shadow-

[@talkingturtle2641]

The spiritual world is very real, but it’s not normal to regularly experience it

[@bprodu1]

As a Schizotypal, people don't understand me. They're like: Stop being like that! So, being those things, I always have to walk away from the relationship.

[@michaelburke4975]

but that's how it goes. Those people can't make room for you.

[@salomekochalski1947]

I´ve been misdiagnosed with antisocial personality disorder a few years ago and just got the newer, more fitting diagnosis of schizotypal personality disorder last month. It´s nice to hear that this happened to multiple people.

[@kennethpetroni3375]

I have Schizotypal personality disorder and I love it. I see the Universe in ways that people can only dream of. We have taken the “Blue Pill”. Positive Energy! You Got It!

[@Yanna_6199]

Yup it’s a Gift !!

[@nikicarrie4071]

❤

[@chevy2thelevy56]

This isn’t a good take for everyone. Not everyone with schizotypal will thrive living inside their delusions, believing whatever they want to believe, as is indicated with “taking the blue pill”

[@JulieHerrick]

As you were describing this, I kept thinking how familiar this was from my time in a fundamentalist religion. Then you got to the part where you said "it's not part of your religious belief" which left me wondering, why do religions get a pass on these behaviors? I found these behaviors (specifically magical thinking, and thinking everything is part of your destiny) to be just as nonsensical inside the context of religion as they are outside of it. (Signed, a former fundamentalist Christian)

[@BlueHazyDreams]

The majority of the population is religious though. That's called a cultural norm.

[@Kathrine-sw7tw]

I have STPD and my magical thinking isn’t conectes to any specific religion or believe. These believes doesn’t really make much sense and you don’t really believe it but at the same time you’re almost certain that it’s true, which creates a lot of doubt and anxiety. I don’t know who I think is watching over me, but a part of me believes that some “God” somewhere keeps an eye on me and my mind. When I was little I was afraid of falling asleep, cause what if I dreamt something nasty and this “god” would read my mind, it would get the impression that that is what I wanted to happen in real life. I was afraid that this “god” would perceive my bad thoughts and nightmares as wishes. I guess you can say the difference is that people with STPD doesn’t choose their own believes. They don’t want to believe it and even though their common sense tells them it’s probably not true, the illness keeps telling you “but what if it was?” You can’t stop it. It’s an illness not a personal choice.

[@joeycarr1398]

Are you into any type of spiritual or religious beliefs?

[@Fabian-ev9zu]

Julie Herrick ,religion is basically magical thinking, so easily fueled mentally based disorders.

[@yorak6793]

Well I guess both are nonsensical and concerning but religion less so because of the manipulation that goes into it. Nothing is necessarily wrong with you because a society has consistently permeated illogical ideas from childhood.

[@AboogieNY85]

As a therapist myself (Registered Clinical Social Worker), I found this video to be very informative for anyone that's willing to know more about this mental health disorder. I've came across many different forms of psychotic disorders, but this one never been one of them and yes as you mentioned Kati, this could very well be hard to diagnosis and to understand. Great Video.

[@Katimorton]

Yay!! So glad you found it helpful :)

[@kriskristofferson8846]

Thanks for the video - first one I've seen on Schizotypal. Personally I think it's a bit of a misconception that schizotypal people are complete loners. The solitude is often felt in the presence of others. For example, a psychiatrist who was researching the disorder theorised that this was what Virginia Woolf had. She could be very sociable and appear to have relationships, but be alone inside. In some senses I feel it's a bit of a Foucaulian disorder - as much a product of cultural structures and power dynamics as chemical imbalances. Maybe :)

[@Pxales]

Mondays are so much better when you know there's a new Kati Morton video coming. Fantastic vid as always! woo woo ✨

[@Katimorton]

Yay!! Glad you liked it!! Woo Woo!! xoxo

[@god_pharaoh6111]

i've always been a suspicious person, especially with my parents, friends, and relationships. couple years ago i had a serious relationship and i couldn't leave the other person alone. i always had to know what they're doing, always had trouble trusting them, what their motives are, etc. never really ever considered i might have something wrong with me till now. the vid was a bit helpfull, ty

[@mineola_]

I think it's great that you're doing a video about this. Even as a medstudent who has done her psych rotation it's still a very elusive disorder I feel. It's hard to explain what it actually is and how it looks like and creating more awareness and spreading more knowledge and counter the spread of misinformation is so important.

[@Katimorton]

So glad you found it helpful!! It is a tough one to understand :) xoxo

[@niklattanzio7964]

Most accurate video I've found so far. As a grad student in clinical psychology who lives with STPD I find my experiences to be largely invalidated within my own professional community. It's somewhat disgraceful to be honest. I was very impressed with this video, especially the sentiments on normalcy. I cannot begin to remember how many times I have tried to explain to someone that while I seem odd to them, it is all normal everyday experience to me. Most don't seem to comprehend that, but I stay strong, 'get over myself' and stay present. Great video, I feel understood after watching this 😎, meaning in a way I feel accepted; and that is HUGE.

[@CenturianCornelious]

Elusive because it's not a disorder. It's a rational response to a world full of pointless gibber-jabber.

[@lullabi3234]

ha ha cornelius, an inevitability of post-modernism. as we lose faith in our Ministries of Truth, more and more people begin to rely more upon their own definitions for the world than those of convention, which have been discovered to betray their audience. I really appreciate your matter of fact tone.

[@Billybloop]

My best friend is diagnosed with this condition. I have known him for over 10 years and we were flatmates for a while. It was difficult living with him at times. He would think that demons were after him and he hit me over the head with a food tray. He wasn't medicated then, either.

[@patrickbateman9435]

I’m Schizotypal btw the reason we get accused of dressing weird is because we don’t know what a good outfit looks like.

[@lordofthegremlins]

You sure want the attention of loads of people. You suffer from codependency disorder. It's okay, it's not your fault. It's your condition.

[@michaelburke4975]

You do you. if people don't like it, well there are places they can put that dislike.

[@g--br1el985]

​@@lordofthegremlins no not true

[@DarkArachnid666]

You know, it's funny. I'm not sure if it's some kind of delusion brought on by being schizotypal or what, but I notice that whenever I think that someone is going to screw me over, they usually do. In fact, it's about 90% accurate. I understand that this may sound strange, but I just KNOW. You know what I mean? It's like I can FEEL the vibe that people give off. I guess, as an example, it's like how the feeling of being in a bad neighborhood is different from the feeling of being in a good neighborhood. You just KNOW that something is up, but you don't know WHEN or HOW you are going to get screwed. The strange thing is that a lot of so called "nice" people give off a bad vibe more than people on the bottom rungs of society. It's almost as if people screw each other over to survive. The problem, is that if people are confronted for their selfish behavior, they will simply deny it. And, their friends (if there ever WAS such a thing) may even cover for them. By the way, I noticed throughout the video, you kept saying "we". Why is this? My understanding is that you wanted to provide a more inclusive and comfortable environment for your viewers which is COMPLETELY understandable. But, perhaps, I am wrong. However, have you considered the possibility that it's okay to be (reasonably [as in, you don't make burgers out of ground up people or something like that]) different? Were we created to be mindless drones, slaving away until we die? Or, are we put here for a far greater purpose? A purpose that goes above and beyond anything tangible? The reason I ask is because most people don't really know what they TRULY want out of life. They convince themselves that only a single path is the correct one, but only because others have walked that same path or they have been told that it is, indeed, the correct path. And, up until the curtain draws to a close, they deny how miserable and unhappy they are. I wish people would wake up to the reality that they create for themselves.

[@anthonykonstantinou5378]

you confused me at the beginning, you are shcizotypical right?

[@shakiraalvarez7681]

I know know exactly what you mean. It’s like you can feel the emotions of other people around you like you are very empathetic and can sense the vibe in the room, I know what you mean.

[@austinburns5764]

Does anyone else sometimes hear voices calling out your name, when it's really just noise?

[@princesspersia247]

Yeah

[@kathrinel.j4382]

A lot of people hear things that arent there.

[@ghostburgers4284]

I hear my mom call me randomly.

[@angelus4620]

@@ghostburgers4284 same and so does my mom oddly enough

[@kylepatrick5252]

Yes, I hear voices

[@lukehepburn3478]

"Skizza'tipple"

[@paargartenhandschuhe8178]

Sounds like a cocktail

[@BeatGURU]

Fernando G fo skizzle my typal

[@insolubletoaster8133]

fa shizzle

[@jaimecoutanche5977]

A crazy liquid that might not be there

[@vivianst.claire7193]

@@paargartenhandschuhe8178 I think this is where "Skittles" came from.🌈

[@factofthematter3855]

I have been diagnosed as skizotypal, I have always wondered if all psychics, tarot readers and mediums have this label...

[@ownerofabilliondollar883]

you are so intellectual.. u must try mensa

[@alexoswald932]

@@ownerofabilliondollar883 what

[@ownerofabilliondollar883]

@@alexoswald932 mensa is the society of high iq peoples

[@alexoswald932]

@@ownerofabilliondollar883 i know what mensa is. your comment just makes no sense to me

[@ownerofabilliondollar883]

@@alexoswald932 anyways i wasn't even trying to mean that to you.. Lol

[@victoriakathleen9993]

I also recently have been diagnosed with Schizotypal PD. I appreciate your video and organizing the information as you did! Super helpful for me to understand myself a bit. Also, how you portrayed it empathetically is big for me-- you're right in the sense of others critiquing my thoughts. I cannot help but take it personal (although try very hard not to and am still learning) when others try to tell me that what I experience isn't real, to me, and isolate myself, push them away due to paranoia or feeling defeated/not understood. I was also told I have a ton of insight which is unusual. One thing that makes me sad is that there are not a lot of social groups. Although I definitely struggle in social settings, I really do want to connect with others. So badly. But it's very difficult and do not know how to maintain relationships unless they like the weirdness. So, I do prefer to be alone because of the exhausting of feeling that others just don't understand. Tbh, I feel like I've tried everything (to help my social symptoms) before seeing my current therapist

[@victoriakathleen9993]

If anyone has this disorder and would like to reach out to someone else who has it, message me on instagram @victoriakathleenyoga. You're not alone-- I'm here :)

[@sbaltor]

I’m schizotypical and I enjoy people as well. I also use my eccentricities and compulsion to act odd and randomly to my advantage. I am an actor and stage performer, and can often times work and amp up the energy of a room or a party better than anyone else there. This has taking decades at work, but it all revolves around not changing the parts of yourself you can’t change but rather finding ways to adapt them into a more productive and positive life.

[@courtneymeyers82]

Thank you, yes, we can be really entertaining, and we like to draw other people in and invite them to join the "party" we like a lot of laughter, and light, good time vibes - we can bring the energy up when needed, and we are very good at also helping in healing others when they are down

[@tompalmer5986]

This diagnosis fits me perfectly.

[@beepboopily6285]

same...

[@beepboopily6285]

And I hear voices that aren't there and I sometimes hallucinate..

[@Cherry-qx6rk]

Go see a therapist

[@CJM-rg5rt]

If you aren't schizophrenic or bipolar make it a point to the therapists. They love to diagnose people with schizoaffective disorder. It happened to me and kinda pissed me off. Schizotypal is specific and unique but they'll fuck it up if you aren't very open.

[@dazzadazzalin6148]

Same here.

[@michaelburke4975]

I have StPD and have had it my whole life. Symptoms were present since 1975 , however in 1987 I got my diagnosis and have been living with it since. I have learned a lot about my condition and how to deal with it, but to be honest, sometimes it comes back and kicks me in the butt. Because of the condition I tend to procrastinate. (yes I use big words, that how this works) I do have friends, though not many close friends. I'm very cynical by nature. Sometimes I get paranoid it's true. But EVERY single times I struggle so hard to beat the condition. I don't always win with that but I do hold my ground well. It stinks trying to be a businessman and having this condition knowing that you can't really share it because people's perception of you would be that of a freak. These is so much about it I could tell you, so much I personally have done . But to look at my life you could see where the condition roughed me up a lot and where and how I have learned to rise above it and not let it be that which defines me. Sure I don't do well with a lot of things, I re-evaluate a lot of things, Trust is something earned with me because I don't like "fake" people . I could share with you so much about the condition and I would do it for free if it could help somebody else to better understand it. I agree that the condition should not be handed out lightly. There is still a lot with it that stigmatizes it , mostly the prefix "schizo" first thing people think when they see that is schizophrenic and that is NOT the person wit StPD. I've done a lot of great and wonderful things . Things that DSM said I'd never do and I did them to spite that book because it said I can't or won't. Most people would think I am perfectly normal to meet me. Nobody would suspect I have anything going on unless I reveal it to them or they pick up on some of the subtleties of it. I've done a lot of research on this condition from the perspective of somebody who has it because I do. StPD is NOT the same as Asperger's syndrome. It shares many commonalities of it. Each condition is on a different spectrum with lots of overlapping. I know things about the condition because I've been up the road and back again a few times with it. IF, I can help anyone gain a better understanding of this condition from a firsthand point of view , let me know. I'm no Doctor or anything, I'm a real person who has StPD.

[@cattime2044]

Hi, can I email you further please? Went into to a ASD and adhd evaluation and came out with a slew of diagnoses: adhd, bipolar II, schizotypal PD, OCD, SAD + GAD. And this was just told to me yesterday. Feeling a bit overwhelmed.

[@michaelburke4975]

@@cattime2044 sure. I want to help people be real with it and deal with it. I'm not an expert, I have no professional training with it, just the fact that I live with it and deal with it. It's not always easy, but it can be manageable. It's not the end of the world.

[@promisedove]

​@@cattime2044Same with me. Went in for ADHD/ASD and got schizotypal personality disorder but I don't think mine is accurate. I only have a few of the symptoms needed for the criteria and it can be explained away by something else.

[@calebbean3658]

People tend to get suspicious of eccentricities, I think we just react to the way we are treated to be honest.

[@Trisholday]

RIGHTTTTTTTTTT

[@lononjdl]

Caleb Bean no you don’t, you just think people are treating you badly cos you’re paranoid and delusional

[@glitter_bomb7260]

I agree and I want to say I feel like this disorder is a reaction to how we were treated as younger, or how we were affected by our environment.

[@oooo1743]

@@glitter_bomb7260 if our reactions to the environment are natural,so why then this is considered a disorder

[@everyoneswireddifferent1712]

When kids hear voices in Tibet they recruit them and train them to become shamans.Its interesting because Robert Sapolsky had a lecture on the relationship of schizotypal personality disorder and OCD which Winston Churchill and Martin Luther had can correlate to religion.

[@Hadrada.]

Hi I’d be so happy if you could find the link for me please

[@emera9151]

Thanks for addressing this, Kati. Although I have an ASD diagnosis, some traits I have are common to Schizotypal Personality Disorder, so I've read a lot about it. I think that it's important to note whenever talking about developmental or personality disorders and medications (and lots of other things too), that there is *no medication for these disorders*. Medication can help with symptoms, but that's going to vary. Also, I'm really interested in learning more about RO-DBT (Radically Open), which is a newish therapy for overcontrol disorders like ASD and Schizotypal because they (along with anorexia and OCD) are "overcontrol disorders" as opposed to undercontrol disorders like BPD (which regular DBT was designed for).

[@stevexie2705]

What do you mean by overcontrol? There is actually quite the overlap between ASD and bpd.

[@MickeyD2012]

I think I'm developing a personality disorder because of people ACTUALLY out to screw me over.

[@Mbrace818]

That's how I feel. I've been screwed over and abused by people I thought I was close to. I feel like I have some of the traits described in the video.

[@dazzadazzalin6148]

Same here. Big time. I actually have a colourful hit list, just joking, but I have in my mind.

[@moarroz]

That does happen...but usually you've already had those traits since childhood...these ppl screwing you over just accentuated those traits making them come to the surface...It's when you can't function anymore and it affects you that it becomes personality disorder. On a side note...I feel your pain...It sucks out here lol

[@Selkie7]

Lol

[@moosedrummer1]

Or you may be paranoid. Remove yourself from that situation.

[@jeyomcnugget9584]

Hello kati, can you do another video on Aspergers disorder? The one you did before was alright but it was aimed towards children. Could you do another one based on teens and adults? Thanks xo

[@beat4224]

Oh yes! I would TOTALLY LOVE to see her do a video on that!!!! Great suggestion!

[@Katimorton]

I definitely can!! I would prefer to get a professional who specializes in it.. because I have only worked with children myself.. but I can definitely do some research on it too & do it myself :) xoxo

[@beat4224]

Thanks Katie

[@jeyomcnugget9584]

Ooohhh i shall look forward to it 💫

[@Brynwyn123]

Kati Morton If you do, might you also talk about how the female symptoms/traits can be very different from the male ones?

[@razalasreficul6902]

You are a piece of art. Thank you

[@destructtheconstruct919]

It literally sounds like these people are just so intelligent that they are just on a whole other level than "normal people"

[@oooo1743]

You got it right.The normies hate everything that they don't understand(because they don't want to but mostly because they are incapable and never will)so they label ppl as broken.

[@user89076]

So, the only difference between having anxiety and schitypal pd, is the fact that schizotypals are "weird" or "eccentric"? There's nothing wrong with being different. This diagnosis seems to be flawed, because it's mainly based on current societal norms, so it's unfair for a person to be diagnosed with a full-blown personality disorder just because they don't fit in to those norms. I think that if a person was diagnosed as schizotyal, it may just be a person who has been a free-think their whole lives, and developed severe anxiety as a result of being ostracized and invalidated. Nothing dysfunctional about them, we just live in a dysfunctional society. I'd like to hear your input of this theory.

[@markkoehr5003]

user89076 I'm pretty sure that psychological disorder are defined by 3 criteria. 1. they deviate from the norm. Be seen as abnormal by quote "mentally healthy people" (however they are defined) 2. it causes the person distress and 3. negatively impacts their ability to function in society. (ie. work, relationships etc.) two people can have the same symptoms but it only bothers person A whereas person B is perfectly okay and their live isn't affected.

[@wholyfrick]

user89076 i would say your theory is wrong and kind of lacks insight/is superficial in nature, and i mean that in the kindest and most objective of ways. it is not just anxiety + weirdness and you are schizotypal, there are certain ways these people act. they have illusions that unconnected things around them are connected to them (i.e. the time is 12:34/3:33/2:22/etc so their last thought is vallidated, or the tv says a word that connects to something they thought and it means something). they also will see amd hear things that are not real - this is again not just eccentricity​. i could go through each thing but i think those two are plenty. i believe your analysis stems from disdain for society, but society does not write the DSM. trained professionals do. this does not mean they can't be wrong or misguided at times but nonetheless your analysis is wrong.

[@user89076]

+holyfuk You're forgetting that to be diagnosed, you only need to fit 5 out of the 9 symptoms of the "disorder". The problem is that we look at the symptoms and not the reason why people think and act certain ways, and people are being diagnosed over the slightest things. Some people are just raised to be superstitious and/or untrusting of people, there's nothing different in brain chemistry. It's just wrong that we're so quick to label anything that's neurodivergent as being a disorder that must be fixed. I don't have a "disdain for society", I have a problem in the increasing lack of diversity in personalities. Also, the DSM is flawed in many ways. It's not written by society, but is based on societal norms. Just a couple decades ago, being trangender was seen as a disorder, but that was taken out of the DSM recently, only due to the increase in gay and trans rights. Being tans became more socially accepted, so it's no longer seen as a disorder. It makes you think about what else the DSM is wrong about based on what it or isn't currently accepted.

[@wholyfrick]

user89076 psychiatrists do not just look at the symptoms and say 'well you have 5/9, your diagnosed !!'. you are thinking about people who diagnose themselves or others by reading about it online. psychiatrists do things in a way to where they get the full scope. you pretend as if they see your parentd raised you to be superstitious or untrusting and then therefore you have this personality disorder.

[@user89076]

holyfuk Yes, it does ignore the complexity and diversity of the human psyche. Everyone is different, and may fit the symptoms of a disorder, but it's actually just normal for them personally. I can think of many examples, but here's one: So many children are being diagnosed with ADD/ADHD. I can guarantee that most of them don't have a flaw in brain chemistry, they just think differently and absorb information differently than most kids. There's nothing wrong with that, but instead we put them on amphetamines to make them easier to deal with. How do you type like a 10-year-old? Lack of proper grammar and capitalization. Also, I take it that you don't have a degree on this. I may not be a psychologist, but graduated college with a degree, took a course on psychology, as well as other electives such as critical thinking courses. I have an interest in people, and have done enough studies on modern psychology to know that something isn't right about it.

[@NiKi-jk4od]

i got diagnosed about a year ago and never understood what it was, but this kinda gave me an inside of it. thank you so much

[@raymckegney]

I feel the poet Emily Dickinson might have been schizotypal. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the new movie just made about her life called "A Quiet Passion". Although from the trailer, I highly doubt she could have been so verbally defensive and offensive.

[@joeycarr1398]

Thanks, I'll look it up in NetfliX

[@harrietthespy2119]

Thank you for this excellent video, Katie! Researchers are starting to do solid research showing support for using EMDR for trauma which may contribute to the suffering and even possibly to some of the cause of anything we would diagnose as personality disorders, including schizotypal! This could dramatically help lessen the stigma, the suffering, and even the need for medication, which could be really wonderful for sufferers with once-adaptive defense mechanisms possibly now causing more problems than they are currently ameliorating. An experienced EMDR therapist would first be very careful to prepare clients for reprocessing trauma so that the sufferer is not re-traumatized and/or triggered into a highly distressed state. Thank you again for your empathic and compassionate warmth in your videos… It makes them so supportive to Suffers and therapists alike!

[@mariewilliams194]

I have a little bit of this disorder . Think everyone acts superior and lacks empathy . Even know I know people are too focused on themselves. It's not all about me . It's just how I was treated when i was younger . I have bad social anxiety . I have a lot of empathy for people. But can't socialise with people .

[@josuethemagician8249]

Hi, if you don't mind. How old are you? And are you still struggling with social anxiety?

[@Misc935]

Thank you for this video! I started exploring videos like yours to better understand my mother. She's in her 60s and very anti-psychology and thinks she doesn't need help even though she's had auditory hallucinations, paranoia, isolating tendencies, and odd New Age beliefs for as long as I can remember. She'll never get diagnosed and though it's not ideal for me to try and understand her through KZbin videos, it's been a big help.

[@sammy_xxx]

What is normal though?

[@ronathebear]

Sammy agreed

[@Battleschnodder]

That's why Kati always adds "Considered" normal - meaning the symptom refers to something that would be called unusual by the majority, rather than something that is malformed or wrong so to speak.

[@nowunzno1209]

exactly!- just because 'normal' society doesn't understand someone- does not mean there is something 'wrong' with a person who's personality is rare or 'unusual' or different!

[@TenaGordon]

hence the term neurotypical is more clear

[@wholyfrick]

Sammy normal has an actual definition... it is what is the norm, the average, or the majority. the its good to be normal is a meaning given after. there are objective norms and averages and this is what makes up 'normal'. i get it, but i cannot stand when people bring up this 'well whats normal' response.

[@colliniccutram9892]

Whoa this is amazing, thank you so much. My therapist diagnosed me schizoaffective with social anxiety and I never agreed with it. I've just now studied this and I finally feel like I have a real diagnosis for the first time.

[@laracroftvideos]

What I have a problem with / have a hard time grasping is where you draw the line between a “disorder” and difference in personality type. Since I’m an introvert living in their own bubble with next to no friends and I’m quite cautious around people I don’t know, I often find that many of these disorders’ symptoms describe things I experience in my life better than I ever could. I just find it curious how, say, avoidant/social anxiety/generalized anxiety or schizotypal personality disorders basically describe introspective people who don’t socialize well and probably think too much (I know that’s extreme generalization that doesn’t include a LOT of stuff but bare with me). You never have a personality disorder that would have symptoms like: highly extroverted nature, makes friends easily, extremely communicative, exhibitionist, you know - the kind of people modern society tends to value the most, and what is by many considered to be the ideal and “normal.” Since the DSM was written by people (albeit highly educated and skilled), there are certain things that are extremely subjective (like “eccentricity” is a dumb criterion if you ask me).

[@DiabloDelMer1]

From what I remember, what differentiates a disorder from simple differences in personality is that these disordered personality traits cause distinct and adverse effects for either the individual in question, or for those who live with or around the said individual. This is to say that a person can have a personality that includes having increased relative social anxiety, but so long as this anxiety isn't causing them to do things like refuse to leave the house out of fear of being judged, they don't have a disorder. (This being an extreme example). All in all, disorders are just a jumble of defined personality traits that can be identified in a person that can cause more harm than good even in optimal circumstances. We generalize and apply labels exactly because people are hyperbolic sacks of emotional meat, and if we are to help the ones that believe they're having mental issues, we need to cut away all the nuance that is irrelevant, so we can start working on a solution. "Normal" serves as the model for what we shouldn't cut away when diagnosing the problem, and determining the disorder tells us in which ways we can cut the excess. If you don't, you're left with thousands of possible problems to solves, and millions of solutions.

[@chevy2thelevy56]

actually you largely described histrionic personality disorder

[@Ca2onahhh2]

I liked the video. I especially liked the advice on how to treat Schizotypal with psychotherapies. As someone with Schizotypal, I have been going to group therapies and have found it difficult and this video has confirmed why for me so thanx for the upload.

[@bqgin]

I think this diagnosis is farfetched. Just because I decided to interpret the world based on my own experiences, thoughts and analysis and not of a certain religious doctrine doesn't mean I have a disorder. Why a Christian thinking that everything he is doing is watched by all present Father God, but a person without any particular religion thinking that a deck of cards can give them hint into the future a looney? And maybe people perceive them as odd, because they have completely different set of experiences, so no wonder they may seem "a bit off", compared to societal norms. Maybe they didn't ride bikes with friends when young, maybe they where reading works of philosophers from ancient Greece?

[@christierella]

I don’t want to “get better”, people suck for the most part. From time to time, I feel upset I’ve been disowned. But mostly, it ain’t what it ain’t. I enjoy peace. I have a loving husband, almost 25 years. We have our fur babies, they don’t leave. I met a barefoot man in Walmart, I asked him what that was all about. He said, “My connection to earth.” I was going to buy him shoes, but that made perfect sense. My husband & I were happy to have asked. I don’t usually speak to anyone, but I was glad I did. We are all connected, but mostly can’t be bothered. Face masks & sunglasses make it easier to be around others, when you need supplies. Be well, all good things to you and yours.

[@MrForestExplorer]

Some would say cultural "norms" are sick. Others might point to the fact that there is statistically significant scientific evidence that para-psychological effects are real. If you depend on the DSM-V to describe what's real and what isn't, you're going to run into contradictory and paradoxical phenomena.

[@princeofb7383]

Thanks Kati my Dad has this diagnosis after being misdiagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia when he was in his 20s. When I tell people about this they often say they’ve never heard of this ever before. Thanks for raising awareness!

[@marsmarz]

Luna Lovegood, anyone?

[@wyrdwitch13]

She immediately came to mind :) She functions quite well within that world & her special gifts are respected.

[@BlueHazyDreams]

I think she gets excused from this diagnosis on the basis of culture. Her father's quite out-there too and probably had a lot to do with her beliefs and behavior. He could be a pretty good example though, and also definitely has the paranoia unlike Luna.

[@THFC23]

Maryssa I think she was just intended to be a bit odd

[@henkdevries7634]

Syvelocin well, he doesn't have paranoia for no reason. The death eaters were chasing him and using him, and eventually they killed him. So.

[@eichhorn6873]

Thought of her, too!!

[@chaneykane3828]

I have this. The creative side is a blast, the anxiety, not so much.

[@HiSofia]

I have SPD. I have a hard time staying connected to the friends that I actually have. I feel like I'm pressuring them to spend time with me, but I often times have nothing else to do since I don't study nor work and most of my friends has either a job or study (or both). I'm in a social group for young adults where we meet once a week, and it has honestly helped me a lot to talk to likeminded people. Often we even go to an amusement park near by or to a café after the group meeting. I will say though, that it works the best for most of us if there's less than 10 in the group. I don't have social anxiety though, so for me it's not a problem if we're many, even though it's less stressful. Oh, and I live in Denmark. We have free treatment for this disorder, but I pay for my own medicine. I talk with a therapist 2-3 times a month, and of course have the group thing once a week.

[@sonomacalendar9949]

Sofia Hust I heard that life is tough in Denmark 🇩🇰 and many people do commit duicide

[@teve709]

Hey Sofia, Im also living in Danmark and I've been diagnosed with SPD in Aarhus and I've heard about those groups and it is sad that they have those requirements of max 8 people joining together as now I'm on the waiting list to be part of it and get any kind od treatment. On the other they just want me to start using Abilify and that's about it. It is very sad situation - no real help whats so ever.

[@jillifer02]

As a first year grad student studying Counseling Psych., I found this so helpful. Thank you!

[@Shemustbetheone]

This just sounds like someone who is really spiritual and poetic lol

[@sryburn4234]

I was kind of thinking that too. You have a nice attitude.

[@peterwacey8646]

I understand why someone would say this but it's not good to romanticize illness where a lot of things become very difficult. You wouldn't say someone with a broken leg only has a different perspective on running. I'm just speaking from my experience and not for anyone else and I appreciate the message you have that it's good to look for the positives.

[@mrmax434]

I was diagnosed with schizotypal disorder and yes I am spiritually active and write a lot of poems, I don't like large groups and get paranoid when alone for longer periods of time. But rather than that it is also for me a fun way to see the world in a way that not many people can see. But I have a few close friends though and can be socially active, I just need to recharge when I'm by myself. I feel comfortable alone and in small groups, just not too many strangers and I'll be totally fine

[@sarahmckinley2436]

A lot of shamans they say had this disorder. Maybe we actually experiencing these things 😂

[@Justyn219]

Nah lol

[@Larry-perkins]

I have shizotypal. I have good friends around me, which surprises me when i read about the symptons. I do have difficulty forming close intimate relationships. Magical thinking is hard for me. You dont know that some of your thoughts are actually not normal. Its hard to get over that hurdle, because you dont know its a problem. thanks for the video

[@kevinthomas9677]

Was just diagnosed about a week and a half ago, so just learning about this. Glad you'd done a video on it!

[@ivanovaverasdejesus3725]

I totally loved this video! Used it to study for my Psychopathology exam. Loved the side note for clinicians. THANK FOR YOUR BEUTIFUL HARDWORK KATI! #youFLAWLESS

[@primetimedurkheim2717]

Schizotypals seem like boundless geniuses who are unfortunately tethered by reality.

[@philipsong4246]

Oh fuck

[@burnmydust]

Thanks 😂😂😂

[@kyliemaysa3240]

exactly you guessed it so right

[@itsamunyall]

Thank you

[@dragonsforbreakfast3572]

*blushes*

[@abbiemoss4168]

You are so positive kati and i love it, I personally suffer from OCD and Anxiety but your videos have helped me have a better understanding of my diagnosis since my therapist type person didnt explain alot, your videos have also made me more aware of mental health issues i never new existed! Thankyou :)!

[@pinosan1374]

So, All of magical thinking has been thought at some point. Greek, nordic, egyptian, eastern asian pantheism believed in these concepts of "magical thinking" which in itself is the base and fundament of in modern terms societal belief systems. In the concept of linguistics terms can be readapted amongst different languages as such morphological and phonetically I've never met a human being demonstrating an ideal form of speech or modulation of language. Because, that in itself would be "wierd" normatively speaking. An example of the structural form it would take could be sort of philosophical leaning towards an aspect of communication not thoroughly understood today "metacognition" so, the priming base of the lexicon often used is in and of relating to incite another to "think deeply" otherwise, which often not many are willing to do. An example would be the disproportion between an environmental cue which leads someone to think how do animals find themselves around their environment while humans need a gps... vs. An open discussion of metaphysics same paradigm different context. So, if the interest in itself is telepathy now there is the concept on quantum physics about a fourth state of matter relating to its relative time. Otherwise, what is normative for thought proccess to be segmented in one aspect of life it is not optimal for it to be in another. For example, when I think of groceries i can say fruits, vegetables, meat produce. Whereas, in another cultural background it could be inordinary to our reference form. In contrast, when It is neccesary to discriminate between important information. In terms, the capacity of attention to take different formats of itself ei. Sustained, focused, selective. So, its kinda like saying a yogi who lived all his life as a yogi suddenly has a change of faith and becomes a normal person, and a normal person who was always atheist has a change of faith and becomes a yogi. In that proccess a promising social engineer seeking to change the world dies. The atheist now yogi realizes that life is continuous though it fit into a pardigm of a pre-existing non evidential opinion about it. Then, he is considered faithful not schizotypal, but anyone can call it a form of insanity or a "phase."

[@Trisholday]

Factssssssss !!! Where you came from ?? Soo true

[@pinosan1374]

Everyone else... they and everyone else

[@MrStevenalorenz]

You have helped me through my breakthrough with this disorder. Thank you very much!

[@jackheltzel2804]

Could be a psychic...

[@jesusfreak9597]

I think the people who wrote the dsm dont believe in that kind of thing

[@helenarichard]

I have predicted some very creepy stuff and I am an HSP so I can also sense everything in the room, I can read people before they even know what's up. I also have GAS, depression, had agnosia after a flu, had globus hysteria, mild manic depression. Not all that bad seeing the state of humanity these days. What helps me a lot is to stay away from modernity and stay in a bit of a neo-ludite, classic romantic world I fantasise.

[@luisXale]

That was a joke right?

[@bigtimefans100]

aw I luv u. it's so important for us to be warm and patient and very caring towards our clients; I'm so glad you addressed all of this

[@Fellow_Traveller1985]

I've been diagnosed with both SPD and schizophrenia and years of psychotherapy has done nothing to me. The only thing that had any kind of impact was anti-psychotics.

[@Jess-nz7be]

Geanos Uron Yep the therapy is really just to check and maintain that you are safe for people to be around, anti-psychotics are the only real solution

[@lullabi3234]

I didn't take anti psychotics upon my schizoeffective diagnosis, and genuinely believe it was my therapist's treatment of me that lured me into a place where I decided to challenge the objectivity of the voices I was hearing, which sort of spiraled into a decades un-broken remission

[@forgetgangstalking8646]

Psygnostic pointless diagnosis. Schizophrenia already insinuates you were schizoid at some earlier point.

[@Lizik]

I thought it’s impossible to have them at the same time

[@calebbean3658]

@@Lizik People with schizotypal often have psychotic breaks in late adolescence similar to schizophrenics, the difference being we tend to get quite a bit better in terms of psychoticism.

[@shara503]

I have magical thinking, I cannot stand being around other people, I don't trust them, they make me nervous, I'm afraid they are going to hurt me and I'm weird. I love being alone because I can be weird me and not feel judged. But there are so many more disorders to check out.

[@astroranger5528]

Could you please do a video on personality disorder trait specified - it's an official DSM-5 diagnosis. I was diagnosed with this personality disorder last year, and have yet to find anyone talking about it.

[@Katimorton]

I will have to look into it.. I don't know much about it, but am happy to learn!! xoxo

[@DJiMike1]

Plopp R Have you found an answer to your diagnosis?

[@neonnights16]

Thank you Kati! As a beginning therapist I so appreciate your videos!

[@AngelSouls]

This pretty much describes everyone in a spiritual or metaphysical community. Is that the same thing?

[@joeycarr1398]

I was told by a priest sometime ago that he won't doubt if some of the proclaimed saints of the catholic church have had some of these disorders.

[@edenracquel9404]

Angel Souls its drs way of saying spiritual ppl are crazy so they can medicate and dull our light.

[@edenracquel9404]

They misdiagnosed me put me on antipsychotics and i became hallucinating when i took the fucking pills ... i was misdiagnosed and i have anxiety but not this... its sad how messed up the drugs are.. gave me heart palpitations and seizures too

[@codismith1903]

Right?! I have studied the law of attraction, spirituality and metaphysics.

[@annastarr2043]

@@joeycarr1398 I've thought that for years

[@Edgar-S]

I'm schizotypal and was diagnosed years ago. I still don't undersand it.

[@wtfhowbizarre1946]

i don't prefer being alone. i do like being in groups of two. Usually, with my wife.

[@Trisholday]

Thank you

[@Trisholday]

I feeel the same way

[@elizabethgrey6040]

This is so me! Lmao

[@lisaozenich]

I have this and PTSD. I just always feel watched, never alone. I like to entertain ideas I'm being watched by 4 dimensional beings or a guardian angel type thing. I understand reality but the fact we don't know so much let's my mind wander and believe different things. My view on the world changes frequently. I prefer to be alone and my only close friendship is another person struggling with the same disorder. Being able to look at my ideas and thoughts and know they are paranoid really helps. I can't help the physical anxiety but I can shut off the irrationality for the most part.

[@gentleben7275]

I enjoyed your remarks on this subject. And I appreciate you dragging out the DSM-5 and using it for a reference while making this video. I've been diagnosed as having "social anxiety" a long time ago, but it hasn't been until recently that I really figured out exactly what I'm dealing with. I'm glad I don't qualify for schizotypal personality disorder, as it sounds very similar to what I've dealt with, except the SPDs have it a little worse than I do. I still have social anxiety, but the worst side effect of that diagnosis for me is the depression. It used to be debilitating on occasion, but I haven't had a full-blown instance of depression since I started the meds (I've been taking the same meds now for almost 20 years). All the meds do is relieve the worst part of the depression - and that's enough to change my life dramatically. The rest of the social anxiety symptoms and some depression indicators are still there, but I am at a place where I can enjoy my status as a retired person very much. I'm quite pleased to live long enough to be retired and to be able to enjoy it as much as I do. I am moved to post a comment due to some of the remarks regarding "being normal". Well, I am very pleased to say that I am NOT "normal". Normal people apply labels like "conservative" and "liberal" on themselves, and they vote accordingly. As a result, we have not had a reasonably functioning government of the people, for the people and by the people for ages. This needs to stop. I don't have a solution to this problem, but I have a hope that one of us who are considered "not normal" step forward with a solution. For one thing that I have noticed among us "not normal" people is that we seem to have a streak of genius present with the mental disorder. In retrospect, I have seen the streak of genius in myself on rare occasions, and I have also seen it in other members of my immediate family - yes, the mental condition I have is genetic. In summary, being normal sucks. Being normal is not something we should aspire for. It is better to strive for being reasonably happy than to strive for normalcy. If there were more of us who were not normal, I'm certain this world would be a much happier place. At least we would have sense enough to vote for politicians who were serious about practicing democracy the way it was intended back in the days when the founding fathers walked the streets on the East Coast of the United States. OK, back to having social anxiety. I am not going to say that having social anxiety is a gift. It is not. I've had a helluva time in the workplace because of it. Relationships with women would start out OK, but then the relationship would self-destruct. In retrospect, with me, I could not maintain a decent relationship of any sort to save my life. One reason why I am happy now is because I do not have close relationships any more. For retirement purposes, I moved to a town where I did not know anyone, and nobody knows me. Except for a few that I must deal with on regular basis - ie., the landlord, the doctor at the medical center, and the ladies who work the check-outs in supermarkets, I have no relationship. It was not too long ago when I was still trying to do relationships. But I kept screwing these up. Me. It was not the other person, it was me. As part of my "social anxiety", I had no clue what I was doing to screw these up. Finally, after I retired, for crying out loud, I was able to figure out that I was somehow causing "unintended consequences" with my actions. When I figured that out, I quit trying to create relationships altogether and thus the "unintended consequences" stopped. Yes, this makes me a bit of a loner, but for the peace in my world it is well worth it. As far as the necessary relationships go - none of them are close relationships in this town - I get by with a smile and get right to the purpose of the visit. Sometimes, I try making jokes. When this happens, I end up just being silly most of the time because I don't do well with making jokes. My sense of humor is not easily understood. Hell, I don't understand it. The biggest problem with my having social anxiety - it's not just about the depression that goes with it - is not understanding what's happening from an objective point of view. If I knew back in the day what I know now, I could have chosen a more suitable line of work. Oh, well. I eat well, I sleep well, and I don't have to go out and "relate" with people anymore. Life is good, if not great. Final note: I think I also have ADHD. I have trouble with understanding what people are saying when they talk fast. So seeing the words at the bottom of the screen as you were talking helped very much. This is not a criticism, its a statement that implies that you may have arranged for the words to appear to accommodate those of us with ADHD. If so, then it worked for me. Thank you.

[@wearelivingmagic]

You covered this in good detail. I like how you added your own explanation instead of just robotically reciting the dsm criteria (as most videos ive seen so far on this topic. Good job.

[@roseroyce_]

Am I the only one who “feels” a presence in mannequins at the mall...one time I bumped into one and said excuse me lol...I hope that doesn’t make me sound too crazy 😜

[@tonyg5132]

At least you acknowledged that it does sound "crazy"

[@jeezluis1779]

No I get exactly what you mean, like I obviously obviously know they’re not real, but I still just don’t like looking directly at them for some reason idk.

[@xyzonox9876]

It feels weird standing next to one, it’s like standing really close to a real person, awkward

[@undeadpresident]

I like the ones you can punch. And how about those sex robot ones they are developing? Would be interesting to try sometime.

[@rustyscrapper]

In my opinion all that happened is a very old reptilian circuit in your brain fired off. The shape of a human will definitely trigger instinctual responses. You instinctually reacted the way you would if you bumped into a real person. You fooled your brain is all.

[@jerryhall5709]

I also struggle with anxiety when I change environment or routines. Nut sure it has to do with STPD or is another disorder. Had it as a kid which is normal but I never grew out of it. My personality is like a cat. They become friends with their home and don't like new smells or strangers. Also they like to hide somewhere where they can observe without being observed.

[@notwittymcwittyface2474]

Sounds terrifying and something I'd never heard of, thank you for video. Mental health seems to be a minefield of cross over symptoms, I have Complex PTSD (amongst others 🙄😉) but it's taken most of my life (and I'm older than Kati 😂) to get the correct diagnosis but I understand why. When you do tho? Everything falls into place. You know all those 'little' things you think are just you happen to others. For me that's a lot of the battle, understanding my behaviour. My Drs were a little resistant to deliver my diagnosis a few years ago but I was pleased 'it' had a name. (Tho this does sound like the name is derived from a Harry Potter creature 😉) XD

[@beat4224]

Not Witty Mc WittyFace Haha it kind of does huh? I wish you well in your journey to recovery.

[@Katimorton]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! And I agree.. it can be so validating to know that all you are experiencing has a name and a reason behind it. xoxo Oh and it does sound like a harry potter creature :) hah! xoxo

[@notwittymcwittyface2474]

Beat Treat Thank you, appreciate that XD

[@frubblegump]

Have just been diagnosed as Schizotypal. It feels good to kind of know why I am the way I am. But same time hate labels. My main problem has been my work. Work in country town and people here like things to fit in a nice little comfortable box. Which led to the diagnosis. Due to severe bullying and harassment I went from feeling like an oddball (which I am okay with) to having suicidal thoughts as it seems I just don't fit in this world. The work side of things continues to support that feeling (now I sound definitely schizotypal). This video really is great. Makes me realise that maybe things are okay.

[@AnnaLeyland]

Can you do one for schizoid personality disorder?

[@alexjeffers5407]

Anna Leyland agreed!

[@awbrxii]

yes!

[@holiboys]

Sarah Yup. The schizoid diagnosis has poor validity. Those who were once diagnosed as Schizoid will now likely be diagnosed as Schizotypal or as ASD.

[@alexjeffers5407]

I have no idea what they are doing in the dsm, but i feel like I don't fit under schizotypal as I have no delusions

[@AnnaLeyland]

holiboys I'm in England, is it the same here? I was only diagnosed as schizoid a few months back. If it's the same here I'll talk to my CPN or psychiatrist about getting a "correct" diagnosis

[@murrrr8288]

I got this diagnosis from a psychiatrist, whom I had never met me before and who met me only for 20 minutes, and who wasn't completely fluent in my language. She had been reading the personal notes of my previous therapist. It was quite traumatising for me. I don't have any of the magical thinking, paranoia or persisting anxiety. I can see how they decided to give it, because of odd clothes and social anxiety, but I think it was quite unprofessional. Especially that they kicked me out after 20 minutes and we didn't even have the whole 45 minutes that was reserved for the session.

[@hw9943]

aren't these also symptoms of exessive early childhood trauma and abusive within the family through out the upbringing that has not stopped even into adulthood...?

[@kathrinjohnson2582]

No 🙄🤨🤨

[@saranox7319]

Exactly.

[@xpmark1]

I really enjoy your presentations on youtube.About 20 years ago I got some great help from a Clinical Pyschologist Phd who used verbal therapy and bioenergetics.The bioenergetics helps free the feelings and associated repressed thoughts, due to releasing what Wilhelm Reich called muscular armoring. These are muscular tensions that are generated by the defenses going on in the psyche. Schizoid or Schizotypal definitely sounds like the zone I was in and when my therapy ended the therapist confirmed as much using one of those terms.Grounding exercises through my legs and feet were a big part of my bioenergetics, helped me get in touch with reality better, and my physical body.I grew up with a feeling like my mother really didn't like my ways that much, didn't approve of me, also the feeling that the world was not a safe place.She was "damaged goods" from her childhood and did her best.

[@ihartevil]

i have autism so i cant be put into this category but i think one of the reason assholes wanted to put me into speech therapy is because i would talk in metaphors in high school it was great because i had friends who would love it and completely understood me and we werent allowed to have our own langues but what i would do is use the metaphors to make sure that only the people who i wanted to know something did it was really fun when i would say it had to do with an AIM chat from the other night when that wasnt always the case it was just a puzzle for my friend to solve or i would give advice in that way and they would get it when somebody would question me i would just say that was for the person who was supposed to know what it was they needed to know i stopped getting questions asked when i would answer like that and the person always knew what i meant or they would ask me on the AIM for clarification knowing it was meant for them but couldnt quite understand it i also think thats why i can figure things out i am not supposed to know i have done that to several youtubers and when they finally just come out and say it i am like i figured that out in podcast or vid whatever because you said whatever it was they said they would get freaked out so badly that it was just the most entertaining thing to do ever still do things like that freaking people out is fun

[@Rosalina102798]

It's also common in families with individuals with schizophrenia spectrum (related) disorders, like paranoid PD, avoidant PD, schizoid PD, and schizophrenia, of course. It's also very common in individuals with autism, which may be due to the fact that about 65%-80% of people on the spectrum experience significant bullying events that often raise their risk of general psychopathology, including personality disorders.

[@courtneymeyers82]

I don't have autism, yet am an easy target with the disorder for mean-spirited people. Yet again, we carry a lot of Light, we're on a higher frequency- and this is where scientists will say I'm delusional And I will say there's definitely a spiritual warfare going on, science doesn't like spirituality or religion - they're incredibly intelligent in dogmatic rational purely logical ways, yet they don't possess the higher knowing that we have ingrained within our cores I know my destiny is to bring healing and light to the world, and evil people are going to hate that and target me. There are a lot of evil people in the world at present times, it's crisis levels One only has to look at all the war, terrorist attacks, increased crime, poverty and the explosion of the homeless Our government is corrupt and we're living in hateful awful times - I don't think it's crazy to acknowledge this. In fact, we're headed towards a deep depression, we're only nearing the deep end of it

[@hhraven]

some (2 and 3) just seem to sound like a highly spiritually awake person (6th sense, clairvoyance), like a number of alters in our system. our original (DID system here by the way, although not officially diagnosed yet, our doctor and psychologist are aware and have spoken to us on several occasions before) talks in metaphors, poems and such. i personally believe that some characteristics stated (the ones i mentioned above) are on a controversial level, considering that most situations related to healthcare and such usually do not have a spiritual view. say seeing auras? not everyone in a family can see auras, but it depends on how spiritually awake and sensitive the individual is. similar to how most conditions have differencial diagnoses, for our case being suspected of a psychotic condition, but after being interviewed we are assured that we do not have it and are not at risk of it, i highly believe that in healthcare systems, people should also take into account on not just the physical and scientific aspects but also spiritual aspects as well. (i like how you mention that it is not something to be causally given as a diagnoses, so maybe something that can be improved on is having a board of doctors and psychologists to interview the person and discuss so as to have a wider perspective as to whether one has a certain condition or not.) - Ravis

[@JulietteZephyr]

It is for precisely that reason that you should never, ever mention to anybody affiliated with the medical industry, even in passing , that you're a clairsentient or psychic, or mention any supernatural phenomena under any circumstances. Just... Don't go there lol

[@hhraven]

yes...that is very true...i do hope in the future the medical industry would be more open to such stuff...took so long for western to accept eastern so not sure how long to accept shamanism and spiritual aspects...

[@lullabi3234]

problem is when a person is too young to have learned this advice, and gets hauled to a "shrink", or when someone is so overwhelmed by the information coming in from advanced perceptions that they aren't able to carry on like every one else, and they get medicated before they manage to find balance or figure out what's happening, or pull out whatever transformative insights they are trying to pull through. to be clear, I ADORE (Jungian branch) therapy, so am certainly not speaking in opposition to the psychology field. The experiences of confused mystics are going to be considered "disturbances" until they are "confirmed"

[@EJ-bn3tc]

empathic multiples the reason the medical system is not open to it is because no clinical research worth its salt has proven it to be true. Doctors can’t start using “auras” to diagnose if such things don’t exist.

[@TeemoFatHamster]

I just got diagnosed with schizotypic personality disorder... but to be honest I don't really see myself when she describes it. It's true that sometimes I vaguely see things with the back of my eyes like things moving or sometimes I even mistake them for my cats but that's not something happening often. I also consider myself the most rational and attached-to-reality person you can find. Idk.

[@Lastrevio]

So this is the kind of thing that people labeled as "crazy" have?

[@acondon5644]

KZbin Binge Triggered

[@BlueHazyDreams]

Yare Yare Daze When any respectable person who has studied psychology wouldn't be caught dead calling someone crazy, I'd say they probably have a good reason for avoiding it other than propagating PC culture.

[@TheFluffyWendigo]

it explains everything...my almost hatred torwards other people...my desire to remain alone the fact that I abstain from human interaction. That my co-workers are my only true friends. And how I prefer to remain alone despite my desire to be around people. I want to be around other people but I want to have some form of interaction. I can't fully explain it but I want to be accepted. You explained my suffering exactly

[@ihartevil]

for me i just sent my brain into a fucked up mess when i was 19-23 i was pretty much trying to push myself into this breaking point but didnt know i was so now i have caused myself when i am sick to have a version of split personality disorder i am pretty sure because i was sick all of feb and i can barely remember anything that happened but my sister didnt even know i was sick (i just wasnt sleeping and had a stuffed up nose) my little bit noticed outside i was having a mild anxiety attack so he licked my ankle but i dont have day time anxiety attacks so that was also something that was odd but i cant remember any comments or any vids i watched for the most part and i have a photographic memory i know i had BPD at one point in my life from your vids it was me pushing myself to a breaking point and i was aware of what i was doing at a point and thats when i knew i had to stop and be a realist so since that point i have just been an atheist and a realist and atheist being before the sam harris idiotic cult i mean a real atheist dictionary definition not agnostic is it possible for split personality disorder to only come out when somebody is sick or to just have missing days like this because of sleep deprivation and having a stuffy nose (its just all of the other times in my life when i had those things i remember everything) all the times i went to high school like that every summer when i would just stay up until 5am because i could and then would only get 2 hours of sleep everyday for a week i know i am not a teen anymore but i never forgotten those days and i cant remember the month of feb except for a few tiny details here and there no matter how much i try i am also going to disclose somebody in my family has split personality as well but its like they arent even there with their split personality for me it was like i was there but i wasnt and i cant remember shit

[@andreasn1481]

hey. you absolutely can have memory loss from sleep deprivation, try to set up an exercise routine and eat the right foods, avoid scaring yourself or researching symptoms too deeply

[@dasclone]

I was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia and it took a bit to get the diagnosis and a lot of fighting. I went through the mental health unit and I mentioned getting reassessed by a psychiatrist as I was continuing to struggle more and more. My counsellor said no so I got my GP to refer me to a man who runs his own counselling psychiatric practise. I was very adamant about getting a proper diagnosis and one thing that really helped me, and I hope will help others too, is I wrote before hand a lot of my troubles I have experienced and still do. It was very helpful to my psychiatrist and it was an easier way to express myself without chickening out or simply forgetting what I wanted to say anyways. I still write things out for him to help preface our appointments twice a week, and it does help me remember things that bother me and I would like to work out. Hope this helps others on their journeys to diagnosis.

[@idin03]

the vast majority of people in general do not understand personality disorders, and schizotypal pd is no exception. it's called a DISORDER for a reason, it's not a mere difference in traits..., also i hate when people bring in culture, society and all that crap, i just get don't get any of that, i'm tired of so many people self diagnosing themselves too, not everyone, but many do, as soon as you show them extensive literature on what the individual personality disorders are really like through extensive clinical research and not through the damn stupid DSM view, you then get half of the people or more that changing their views on what they thought they related to. ironically, the symptoms that these people do not agree with are usually the most debilitating symptoms that constitute to many of these personality disorders. i was officially diagnosed with schizotypal personality disorder and major depressive disorder, not self diagnosed, the diagnosis of schizotypal is still iffy as i don't understand some criteria, i have other conditions that can explain similarities or may be distinct to schizotypal pd such as sluggish cognitive tempo, also i haven't met anyone in real life to see if i can relate really, I've met a few borderlines which i somewhat related to but that isn't really a surprise because i believed i had borderline personality disorder from before and they share many similarities and you can technically be both, just that the schizotypal part seems to overtake what really is directly affecting me. i noticed i tend to be more cautious and patient in communication vs one borderline individual i met, though we didn't experience each other in groups too much. i think schizotypal and borderline were treated as one thing in earlier research too. however, from my experience, the people i've met with schizoid personality disorder weren't any different than the ones i've seen online in the sense that they didn't seem like they had any issues, in fact, they seemed pretty normal and shared similar mindsets to the majority of people, their problems were more indicate of other disorders such as bipolar disorder ( the two i seen had ), majority of people i met in clinical settings had mood disorders / manic depressive, had hallucinations, etc. i do not have hallucinations, nor do i hear or see things that aren't there, i pretty much have all the negative traits of many disorders but very few to no positive traits. if there is anyone that wants to just ask some questions or get some feedback, i am interested to do so. trying to do so in different forums and subsections has not been very successful, i don't see why it wouldn't here though. just as a random info, i relate to every single trait of the covert profile of schizoid personality disorder done by salman ahktar, which can be found in wikipedia of schizoid personality disorder, also those two guys i mentioned earlier that said they had schizoid pd and bipolar disorder wouldn't make sense going with this criteria - "Does not occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia, a bipolar disorder or depressive disorder with psychotic features, another psychotic disorder, or autism spectrum disorder and is not attributable to the physiological effects of another medical condition", that was taken out of schizoid pd criteria.

[@joeycarr1398]

Is been angry part of the diagnosis?

[@kc6391]

I have been diagnosed schizotypal since I was 19, I am now 29. My main issue is being around people. I get paranoid and think that they can sense the instability in me. It's a struggle with fear and anxiety just to order fast food. I take everything do literal and personal and I feel like everyone is out to get me. I cant trust even my own family. I feel like they judge me and my feelings easily and often get hurt. When I see another person, no matter who it is, it triggers my panic disorder and I have had to be sent to the ER because my assisted living facility staff thought I was having a heart attack. I have schizotypal, panic disorder, major depression, OCD and bipolar. Every day is a tumultuous struggle just to get by without any serious episodes. I'm often suicidal. I recently got off benzodiazepines, I've been on them 11 years and that makes it harder. I always feel like someone is mad at me or wants to kill me. I take 3mg invega at night for my schizotypal disorder. It keeps the voices at bay most of the time.

[@marekbarlow821]

honestly, society has tricked us that there is something wrong with being different and this isn't a disorder because some people don't understand there are spiritual realms in the mind

[@alicenobili181]

marek barlow I agree

[@scorpiondeath-lock4238]

I think this is me, I need a doctor. Thanks for sharing!

[@theblanketfortcohort7332]

So...this is basically pathologising eccentricity?? This and schizoid confuse me so much

[@shs1848]

Not at all. It seems like some degree of anxiety or paranoia are necessary to make a diagnosis and even then there can be below pathological representations of all the symptoms. Its very much ok to be eccentric and even healthy to own and embrace it.

[@DiamanteInfernalis]

Holy cow! Thanks for this. My hubby was diagnosed with this by the va, but their explanation of it was completely different. This video makes alot of sense. Thank you.

[@atlaslion5481]

I hate how they talk badly about this

[@patnye8227]

i wonder what 'subculture' means. I thinking what? she needs to give definitions a little better

[@sal2975]

@@patnye8227 subculture means a culture within a culture like rockers, skaters, college life, and your job's work culture. All within the big culture which is the society you live in.

[@Uvvibes]

I wasn’t like this until after my rave/hippie years psychedelic use.. now my dysthymia is worse and I’m way more mixed up in the head, also spending too much time on the internet my life traumas.. just made me weirder and harder to relate too

[@viscosityofwordsxx]

Hi Kati, is "emotional self harm" really a thing? I feel a bit put off/offended when I see this on tumblr (which is often), like sometimes ppl just want to say they self harm in one way or another without ever actually causing physical bodily harm to cope with difficult feelings/non-feelings or circumstances. It's seems reductive. And like it's a different issue... every poor decision you make or negative thing you do can't be "self harm" can it? Idk. I just don't get it. Idk how to respond when ppl say stuff like that. Or maybe I'm not looking at it the right way? Thanks

[@jaquelinezini]

Hi. I'm not Kati (oh, really?), but maybe I can help you a bit. I do see emotional self-harm as a coping mechanism. To me, it happens when I'm feeling miserable and not worthy, so I'll look at suicide jokes, or self-deprecating statements... I don't know... self harm doesn't really have to be physical in my opinion. It's kinda self sabotage, I guess. But if you don't mind me asking, why do you get offended by it? I don't really understand your point.

[@viscosityofwordsxx]

I had someone say to me on a personal blog post about my sh, that they understood because they've emotionally self harmed. I've struggled with cutting for 14 years, and I've done the whole looking at stuff that isn't good for me thing too, but I don't think it's the same bc when you physically hurt yourself, the goal is often to change or suppress your mood/feelings or it's turned into an addiction with visceral cravings you feel in your skin. Seeking out negative content can actually make you happy, the way listening to a sad song does. Sh buries the pain and ultimately doesn't let you work through it. I'm not saying the pain of someone looking at or indulging in negative things or whatever is less, but that it seems like a different demon that needs a different word. It's not the same experience. It feels offensive bc the term "self harm" meant something specific and is now becoming more general, and that means I'm losing something I identified with to communicate to others what I'm going through. It's invalidating. Does that make sense? It's stupid, I know.

[@jaquelinezini]

It does make sense to me. I actually agree that the term "self harm" should not be used in those circumstances. I've never cut, but from your words I see how that can be offensive and hurtful. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I hope you have a suport system to help you through this.

[@achilleus9918]

i suppose a better name for what they're doing might be self-sabotage? it can come from the same place as SOME self-harm behaviours, eg the self-hatred, the feeling that you deserve punishment, etc. of course not all self-harm comes from that motivation (mine doesn't), but for some people it can. doing things that you know will make you feel shitty is a form of punishment or of trying to feel something (instead of feeling numb/unreal/spaced out). i guess an action is or isn't self-harm based on the motivation- drinking too much, for example, could just be a bad habit or it could be self-harm/self-sabotage. i totally get what you mean about it being off-putting to have people use the word self-harm for something that might not be though, i get annoyed when people use "anxiety" for just feeling a bit nervous for similar reasons.

[@BlueHazyDreams]

ughh asdfgkdjf I can think of a lot of people I'd say know what it's like to self-harm without visibly marking themselves. Self-harm is a blanket term, not specific in the slightest, and I'm trying to say this lightly: it doesn't belong to you. Cutting is one thing that falls under it and the one with the most awareness. There's also burning, punching, starving, eating, picking, pulling hair, excessive risk-taking, drug use, emotional and physical self-abuse/neglect, etc. Actually I'm often drawn to advocating for them because people often overlook other forms of self-harm for the one everyone knows about. And yes, I did used to cut actually. 5 years clean.

[@haraldbredholt9402]

I've been wronly diagnosed with STPD, I believe. About two years back I went to a preschool to artschool but I felt severely depressed. My doctor send me to a program at a psychiatric hospital that in the end (after several tests) gave me this diagnosis. Today I see that the therapists and doctors were perhaps jumping to conclusions, and that I don't have any of the symptoms defining STPD. At least I don't have them anymore. And it is supposed to be a lasting diagnosis. I have many friends and a girlfriend for three years now, and I enjoy the closeness and comfort of friends and family. I started artschool last year, and this among other helped me a lot in terms of getting through the rough times I have experienced earlier. I don't have hallucinations, I do not I think in a magical way, and my thoughts do not bother me anymore as they used to do. I try my very best every time to speak clearly and to the point, and I can tell from others that I succed in doing so. Meditation and positive thinking has helped me through, and my own concious decision to get better! The human mind is a powerful thing, both in a good and bad way, but all in all I think it is there to help us!