What is TF2's Worst Weapon? |Part 4 - Finale|

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TheWhat Show

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@IAdmitMyCrime
@IAdmitMyCrime 3 жыл бұрын
The Manmelter should be able to melt women as well
@harryvpn1462
@harryvpn1462 3 жыл бұрын
funniest shit I have read all day
@watchersomwhere7175
@watchersomwhere7175 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes T H E P E O P L E M E L T E R
@IAdmitMyCrime
@IAdmitMyCrime 2 жыл бұрын
@@watchersomwhere7175 The Hu-manmelter
@dilophosaurussk4333
@dilophosaurussk4333 2 жыл бұрын
@@watchersomwhere7175 Equal opportunity arson
@mr.waterbottle1265
@mr.waterbottle1265 2 жыл бұрын
It should be able to melt not just the men, but the women and children too
@butter5842
@butter5842 3 жыл бұрын
My strange liberty launcher: 500 kills Strange part heavies killed: 3 kills Seems just about right.
@herobrain1717
@herobrain1717 3 жыл бұрын
wait wait wait, 3 heavy kills with the liberty launcher? Pretty unrealistic
@LizordSword
@LizordSword 3 жыл бұрын
@@herobrain1717 yeah I want proof
@dwabtitrq
@dwabtitrq 3 жыл бұрын
@@herobrain1717 I guess he plays comp and in casual he doesn’t kill friendlies…also he might play mvm a lot .
@2BrosOfficialGaming
@2BrosOfficialGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@dwabtitrq thank god they dont kill friendly hoovies
@xdk362
@xdk362 2 жыл бұрын
@@herobrain1717 he probably got a random crit
@chlorinemachine
@chlorinemachine 3 жыл бұрын
the sheer amount of weapons on this list kinda shows how we dont need new weapons and instead need a lot of balance changes. we especially dont need new weapons if they turn out anything like the gas passer.
@ieuanhunt552
@ieuanhunt552 3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately Valve does not seem to know how to balance change weapons. cough baby face blaster cough. I do not trust them with anything.
@tront5903
@tront5903 3 жыл бұрын
@@ieuanhunt552 I could balance the weapons better than any of valves employees
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 3 жыл бұрын
Well considering there was a whole update around balancing weapons which got us here.....
@Mirthful_Midori
@Mirthful_Midori 3 жыл бұрын
@@ieuanhunt552 The time they nerfed the weakest class in the game(the Heavy) in love and war was more than enough proof of that.
@KinerfV4
@KinerfV4 3 жыл бұрын
You could tell someone who hasn’t played TF2 a single sentence on what to do when rebalancing the Ubersaw or crossbow, and they could do a better job than valve, cause y’know, THEY’D ACTUALLY MAKE BALANCE CHANGES
@metalgearlikersupreme
@metalgearlikersupreme 3 жыл бұрын
>only weapon in the game that is a literal objective direct downgrade to another weapon >still has a better rank than the hot hand
@rua5910
@rua5910 3 жыл бұрын
technically not the only weapon with that characteristic, the holy mackerel
@metalgearlikersupreme
@metalgearlikersupreme 3 жыл бұрын
@@rua5910 the holy mackerel is literally just a reskin of the stock bat, I don't understand what you mean
@rua5910
@rua5910 3 жыл бұрын
@@metalgearlikersupreme dead ringers display as a hit not a kill, so technically an upgrade
@furiousfusion7890
@furiousfusion7890 3 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure it also works for spy checking
@harryvpn1462
@harryvpn1462 3 жыл бұрын
@@rua5910 thats an absurdly minor upside and I doubt there has ever been a single case where this came into play, it's technically an upside but barely worth mentioning
@mrspiffy8587
@mrspiffy8587 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow the stock fire ax, which is technically the worst weapon since there is absolutely no reason to ever use it over the 3rd degree, manages to be better than the gas passer.
@tront5903
@tront5903 3 жыл бұрын
The stock axe actually functions as its supposed to
@arthurdong8216
@arthurdong8216 2 жыл бұрын
It's still the stock melee
@cristinagomez3283
@cristinagomez3283 2 жыл бұрын
There's not that many reasons to use the 3rd degree either. Just saying.
@potato_rotten
@potato_rotten 2 жыл бұрын
Well at least the stock axe is consistent unlike the gasser that takes forever to recharge
@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX
@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX Жыл бұрын
@@cristinagomez3283 yeah but that ain’t the point, the weapon that is WORSE than another, is still somehow superior to the gas passer. Odd how it’s so shit In casual but in mvm it’s the best weapon in the game.
@mogbob7336
@mogbob7336 3 жыл бұрын
in S tier: 2 plasma weapons that will vaporise their victims in seconds a can full of deadly gas that help burn your enemies to ashes a knife made of blood and a pair of gloves in F tier: 2 pistols, a literal candy cane, a literal chocolate bar, a bottle and a knife
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
It really do be like that
@megalocerosdeity5472
@megalocerosdeity5472 3 жыл бұрын
The best map to use the Neon Annihilator has to be ctf_sawmill. The intel room has enough water for every player to be covered in water. But I know how many people play on ctf_sawmill
@bet3240
@bet3240 3 жыл бұрын
There are 231 people who play it Pedro gonzales 2009 and the 230 bots
@gulfgiggleanimations4472
@gulfgiggleanimations4472 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also constantly raining so it’ll always crit on that map because everyone will always be wet. What do you mean that’s not how it works?
@ColaPerv6969
@ColaPerv6969 3 жыл бұрын
I love ctfsawmill
@570RMP1R8
@570RMP1R8 3 жыл бұрын
Ahem... 2fort.
@IronSK
@IronSK 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh sawmill is my fave map
@aidanbaker9401
@aidanbaker9401 3 жыл бұрын
“there is nothing more satisfying than outsniping a sniper with the lock and load” clearly he hasn’t gone rescue ranger counter sniping
@atyeszpapesz1426
@atyeszpapesz1426 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being on turbine and a sniper was always spamming arrows at me and i just random crit him from half the map with the rescue ranger i "tried" from the mannco store cuz i didnt know its really cheap haha
@f-35enjoyer59
@f-35enjoyer59 3 жыл бұрын
Sniper wall art time
@Person-tz1tk
@Person-tz1tk 2 жыл бұрын
The crossbow is also good at this.
@DrHotelMario
@DrHotelMario 3 жыл бұрын
"2Fort is not the only map in the game" Well yes, but actually no
@LucasTF
@LucasTF 3 жыл бұрын
I had some wishful thinking about it not being the Hot Hand, and that slow intro kind of convinced me the wrong thing, and I thought, "wouldn't it be funny if the thing fell and it was actually the gas passer? It's not like that is going to happen, or is it?". Then it did. This is the type of humor I want in this channel.
@Lever200
@Lever200 5 ай бұрын
That is the exact same thing i thought "I bet its not going to be the hot-hand and than say you got clowned than switch it to the gas passer"
@dankmachine
@dankmachine 3 жыл бұрын
The Loch-n-Load is a weapon that sounds way too situational to use on paper, but for some reason works surprisingly well in practice
@Shaosprojects
@Shaosprojects 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the Loch-n-Load is that there’s no air tumbling. So the projectile will always land where you shoot without fail.
@michaelpetras1613
@michaelpetras1613 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh no imo I miss the old lock n load back when it did increased player damage rather than being just a inferior direct hit that needs aiming and has range
@smasher3261
@smasher3261 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's because it was intended to be a Direct hit for Demo. If I remember correctly it did more damage to players too and not just buildings. But it got nerfed for obvious reasons.
@tomorbataar5922
@tomorbataar5922 2 жыл бұрын
@@smasher3261 I too remember Loch-n-Load removing scouts with one shot.
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomorbataar5922 I miss removing scouts with one shot. I also miss sticky jumping on 2fort and deleting snipers with the pre-nerf caber. The Direct Hit and Loch and Load were like the only weapons I used on Soldier and Demo back in like 2012-2014.
@otsu3011
@otsu3011 3 жыл бұрын
8:12 This is basically pain for every medic main, imagine you just pop the uber yo save yourself and not using to attack because no one is around you to defend yourself, and some of the enemy team are chasing you just to get killed to a random crit
@jackdague1792
@jackdague1792 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly? Not shocked at the results. The Hot Hand may not be very strong, but it's kinda like the fish. It can get kills and it's funny to kill people with. The Gas Passer though? Its contract has you hitting people with it, then lighting the doused victims on fire. Unless you use your melee, like an idiot, you're now hitting people with the gas passer... to set them on fire with your fire-inflicting primary.
@yoshifan2334
@yoshifan2334 3 жыл бұрын
Even more so than that, hot hand vs gas passer is also an opportunity cost question too. The third degree is a direct upgrade, sure, but it’s still bad because you could be picking side grades that have a greater overall impact. The same is true with the hot hand and gas passer. While the power jack and axetinguisher are pretty damn good, you’re still a capable fighter with even the stock fire axe because you still have your primary and complimentary secondary. The gas passer is not only shit, but so shit by comparison to Pyro’s other secondary options that it’s terribleness shines through even more. Pyro primaries are inherently flawed in their range, which secondaries usually cover for, but without one (IE 90% of your time when playing with the passer) you’re just so crippled
@leeroyjenkins4456
@leeroyjenkins4456 3 жыл бұрын
Btw if your having trouble woth thecontract try throwing it at large groups and let ur teammates light th em on fire thats how i finished my contract
@evangonzalez7732
@evangonzalez7732 3 жыл бұрын
And also, the hot hand does only do 28 dmg, but I think people forget a very small detail. It hits twice in one swing.
@Real_temmie_undertalo
@Real_temmie_undertalo 3 жыл бұрын
The gas passer can combo greatly in a phlog combo, so in a team-push, you throw it and boom, free damage, and free charge
@evangonzalez7732
@evangonzalez7732 3 жыл бұрын
@@Real_temmie_undertalo problem is, you need to, you know, somehow charge the phlog without an airblast or scorch shi- I mean shot. Also hoi temmie
@alons8isback
@alons8isback 3 жыл бұрын
Rocket jumper A tier: "Trolldiers want to know your location" Nenon anihilator a tier: "Pyrosharks want to know your location" Blutsauger C tier: I WANT TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
@storm_fling1062
@storm_fling1062 3 жыл бұрын
CJ is rapidly approaching your location
@alons8isback
@alons8isback 3 жыл бұрын
@@storm_fling1062 YEAH
@Shemsy.C
@Shemsy.C 3 жыл бұрын
The Blutsauger has a really good advantage if you're at low health, and i personally think that crossbow is overrated even though i use it anyways. The only thing that makes this weapon pretty bad is that it shoots projectiles, makes it really hard to aim like TheWhat said, although the firing speed is super high, so you can do pretty "big" massive amounts of damage, but it's mmaximum damage is 12 i think so yeah, still agree with you though the syringe guns are really underrated.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I like about the Blut is that it allows your heavy to use something other than the Sandvich or Banana. A brass beast/family business heavy and a quick fix/Blutsauger medic is a surprisingly scary combo.
@mrfishman9016
@mrfishman9016 3 жыл бұрын
yeah seriously don't know why he put it in A tier because "it will never be viable" even though he's basing it off of 12v12 not 6v6
@trashbeast
@trashbeast 3 жыл бұрын
"Not being in control of the effectiveness of your own toolkit does not make a good weapon" ah, so spy
@thedootlord
@thedootlord 3 жыл бұрын
Yea since alot of those are so you can shift with the way the games playing out they are all situational but not uncommon situational so they work well no matter s Which Also i feel bad seeing neon in A
@elfascisto6549
@elfascisto6549 3 жыл бұрын
Spy is the weakest class in the entire game
@digojez
@digojez 3 жыл бұрын
@@elfascisto6549 *Laughs in 300 points enemy spy in that one lobby*
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 3 жыл бұрын
Well modern spy is more about ambushing and getting behind enemies rather than raw deception. In 2021, unless someone just happened to play tf2 for the first time, everyone knows how spies work and won't be tricked by disguises for minutes at a time. Then again, when your a melee focused class with an instant kill, you don't need minutes of deception. 1 second can mean the difference between death and a backstab
@Jaytic
@Jaytic 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the worst weapon was the friends we made on the way
@matthewr6148
@matthewr6148 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I imagine using entire, living human bodies to bludgeon other people to death would be very difficult and ineffective in most situations, unless you're the Heavy. But then, I guess that would exclude "friends we made along the way" from this list.
@keelled
@keelled 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewr6148 just use a trebuchet
@vistagreat9994
@vistagreat9994 3 жыл бұрын
@@keelled Like a true Mongol would
@legosaurg7979
@legosaurg7979 3 жыл бұрын
TheWhat Show: Overdose is the best option if you don’t want to use the crossbow Me, who doesn’t have a crossbow: Thank you for this crucial information
@waterbottle195
@waterbottle195 3 жыл бұрын
i can give you the crossbow
@Pikana
@Pikana 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished the Syringe Gun segment. Your assessment was amazing and your final words on the Overdose are so wonderful to hear and is the closest to the truth I've ever heard. Especially the Crossbow part.
@ember3579
@ember3579 3 жыл бұрын
My big issue with the overdose is that if you have enough Uber to have a good speed boost with it, you have enough Uber to use that Uber. If you didn't have to have it deployed to get the boost or it had other bonuses then it'd be much more attractive.
@taozi7204
@taozi7204 3 жыл бұрын
@@ember3579 imagine this scenario: your heavy got backstabbed, that one over extending soldier is dead, and you're alone with the other team chasing you down. your uber is at 80%. the overdose has saved my ass a lot of times lol. it's like the escape plan but you don't need to be on low health to go fast. well it's good with quickfix or vacc i guess.
@clashoclan3371
@clashoclan3371 3 жыл бұрын
My uncles final words after the overdose were *Thank you everyone for coming here*
@ember3579
@ember3579 3 жыл бұрын
@@taozi7204 At that point, you got rolled, and are likely to get rolled again. Multiple serious fuckups needed to happen in chorus for that scenario to happen, and I'm not too sure the average fuckup TF2 pub player is gonna listen when you point this out. They might on comp, but if you're on comp then your team shouldn't be fucking up like this in the first place. It's basically a worse Blutsauger in that it's a backup plan for if you're playing with Team Potato. Teams that don't want to protect their medics don't need medics.
@nicholasho1595
@nicholasho1595 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I'm glad you didn't put the Sydney Sleeper here. I’ve seen a lot of people claim it's worse than The Classic, but that thing is my favorite rifle thanks to its faster charge rate. It feels fun to use, and isn't as frustrating to fight against since quickscopes on other rifles are busted in the hands of a really good player.
@VagueCastle649
@VagueCastle649 3 жыл бұрын
Btw, try shooting your burning teammates with it without scoping.
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
Agree on everything except it not being annoying to fight against, I hate the Sydney sleeper
@Pigggles
@Pigggles 3 жыл бұрын
I’d rather die quickly to a headshot than be covered with New Zealand piss
@anudee7142
@anudee7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWhatShow im also glad you did not put the scottish resistance here people just sleep on that weapon because of one downside which is that you cant spam with it it's amazing for mvm and guess what its also good in casual and really i dont think people are using it properly to begin with
@anudee7142
@anudee7142 3 жыл бұрын
also you forgot to mention something there are bugs with the manmelter like its not show the vacuum effect like its not working at all for the fact that when ever you fire a stored crit it flashbangs you and i know its not a bug but its need a way better reload indication as its some times hard to know when this thing is ready to shoot again the most is a beep which gets lost in all the gun shots screaming voice lines and explosions and a spark that's also gets lost in all the other visual effects the game offers.
@AndresinReal
@AndresinReal 3 жыл бұрын
I wish heavy's base melee damage were 80. He's supposed to be s strong man, come on
@johnt3606
@johnt3606 3 жыл бұрын
I mean 65 is fair considering with his fists he deals the same damage as a bone saw, shovel, fire axe and others. Plus more damage than a bat and a pocket knife
@AndresinReal
@AndresinReal 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnt3606 the heavy is very slow and it should be a kind of punishment to get in his neck breaking range
@inarbysno7505
@inarbysno7505 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndresinReal Yo completely agree. Its p clear that Heavy can easily snap your spine, yet ingame his fists deal as much damage as demo's bottle does
@rua5910
@rua5910 3 жыл бұрын
@@inarbysno7505 also the same as a fire axe
@thegunslinger9707
@thegunslinger9707 3 жыл бұрын
perhaps not all melee weapons, but maybe the Warrior's spirit or the Eviction Notice since they are bad weapons, cool concepts and they should do more damage based on their look.
@coconutfredenjoyer2863
@coconutfredenjoyer2863 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Fists are viable thanks to their taunt kill. Oh wait. Right. The Tickle Mittens exist.
@localidiot450
@localidiot450 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that joke, Trent from the hit show Total Drama island, which you appeared in 2 different seasons of it being a pretty popular character!
@JohnLover1179
@JohnLover1179 3 жыл бұрын
The Holiday Punch is a crutch for Heavies that can’t taunt kill
@Person-tz1tk
@Person-tz1tk 2 жыл бұрын
Also the Tickle mittens can basically cancel ubers.
@something3530
@something3530 3 жыл бұрын
For the neon if you kill someone with it on a map with no water it pisses people off
@karlbischof2807
@karlbischof2807 3 жыл бұрын
definitely an upside that needs to be in the description
@ColdyCZ
@ColdyCZ 3 жыл бұрын
Gas Passer in casual: Objectively the worst weapon. Gas Passer in MvM: So OP that the tryhards get angry at you for using it.
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 2 жыл бұрын
Suffering from success.
@ranibowspr1imkle
@ranibowspr1imkle Жыл бұрын
it can't win, even when it does it still loses
@BluSteel_
@BluSteel_ 3 жыл бұрын
I would probably use the syringe guns a whole lot more if they were hitscan rather than projectile
@thegamingsnail5119
@thegamingsnail5119 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I was messing around with buddha mode with one non-moving bot on itemtest the other day. If you can land all your shots, it does a good amount of damage, I believe about 11 per needle. But it sucks to hit when your enemy is moving uncontrollably.
@TofuDregYT
@TofuDregYT 3 жыл бұрын
Or at least the projectile being a little more faster. I love the concept of the syringe guns since you only get a team that protects their medic once in a blue moon, so a self defense weapon is pretty handy. But the projectile is so weird I still just use the crossbow.
@owenblount7334
@owenblount7334 3 жыл бұрын
Blutsauger would be broken
@faceless2302
@faceless2302 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even think its the projectile that breaks them I think it's maybe just the projectile speed or some spaghetti code making them unreliable. Syringe guns are descendants from the Quake Super Nailgun, which was a pretty great weapon. Something got lost in translation somehow between Quake, TF, TFC, and finally TF2 but I'm not sure what.
@garysue1589
@garysue1589 3 жыл бұрын
@@faceless2302 syringe gun iirc is sent from your head rather than the gun nozzle, alongside the unbearably slow projectile speed and very fast drop, they're the hardest gun to properly "aim". Very limited range and weird firing angle for it.
@what...101
@what...101 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with the sticky jumper being on this list. A demoman who can aim pipesxusing the sticky jumper is absolutely terrifying.
@nickrustyson8124
@nickrustyson8124 2 жыл бұрын
Also with the Caber you can be a weird Trodier Demo
@cdxxlxil9159
@cdxxlxil9159 3 жыл бұрын
In the words of my friend, " The Gas Passer is like having an Ultimate in Overwatch that does practically nothing."
@flarm3
@flarm3 3 жыл бұрын
The transition sound effect gives me sweet LIFE
@Gaspasar
@Gaspasar 3 жыл бұрын
The Manmelter can be used preety effectively if a friendly soldier spams the cow mangler charged shot on himself to gain a lot of crits
@connorfries8297
@connorfries8297 3 жыл бұрын
16:20 I think you meant the amputator, which I as a medic main use almost all the time. It’s great for healing multiple targets for when you think “oh no who do I heal? Oh no panic!” And you just whip it out and heal all of them
@DrMonty-ng5fo
@DrMonty-ng5fo 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a crutch. It's better to just learn who to heal.
@harryvpn1462
@harryvpn1462 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrMonty-ng5fo wtf
@thunderspark1536
@thunderspark1536 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrMonty-ng5fo Not really. You need to be perfectly still for the upside of healing everyone at the same speed of the medigun. I'd say it requires a lot more awareness
@coconutfredenjoyer2863
@coconutfredenjoyer2863 3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest: All the stock melees are outclassed by the Pan.
@mrbobbobberson2861
@mrbobbobberson2861 3 жыл бұрын
FISH
@herobrain1717
@herobrain1717 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbobbobberson2861 yes fish but fish only use scout pan can be use other c lass
@herobrain1717
@herobrain1717 3 жыл бұрын
Broken words
@mrbobbobberson2861
@mrbobbobberson2861 3 жыл бұрын
@@herobrain1717 FISH
@herobrain1717
@herobrain1717 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbobbobberson2861 FISH
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael 3 жыл бұрын
The way you taunted at a soldier who just died from afterburn while waiting for the healthpack you took.
@genghisdingus
@genghisdingus 3 жыл бұрын
I have used the hot hand as an escape option 1 time in my tf2 career. I rounded a corner while holding it and a fully revved heavy just happened to be on the other side so I slapped him and ran back around the corner.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 3 жыл бұрын
The Liberty Launcher is actually a really solid weapon when you take it as part of the set it's in. It pairs perfectly with both the Reserve Shooter and the Market Gardener, making for a set where you want to use it as a mobility and setup tool before dishing out punishing amounts of damage with your other weapons. Straight up, the Airborne Armaments set is one of the best in the whole game
@jaronmarles941
@jaronmarles941 3 жыл бұрын
All they have to do is give the launcher a knock back stat
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Mannmelter Fix: 1. Let it extinguish enemies 2. After extinguishing an enemy, the damage of the Mannmelter's next attack is increased by a percentage equal to the negated afterburn. Now alongside its old function, it can also allow you to use it like a more powerful combo flaregun.
@retonman7492
@retonman7492 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the list would be if you analyze the weapon in of itself without comparing it to other choices.
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
all the syringe guns would prob be f then
@dougthedonkey1805
@dougthedonkey1805 3 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as “good” or “bad” without relativity. Judging a weapon with no other weapons to compare it to makes it both the best and worst weapon in the scenario, thus making the entire idea of “worst” and tier lists moronic
@retonman7492
@retonman7492 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougthedonkey1805 yea
@cheeseman4199
@cheeseman4199 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougthedonkey1805 I think you would wanna compare them to stock
@warbossbonesmasha3751
@warbossbonesmasha3751 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougthedonkey1805 And now we have created a theoretical tier list black hole
@Rbum4
@Rbum4 3 жыл бұрын
I was seeing this series, then thinking "why is this or that weapon on the list? It was a staple of the class and generally very strong" then you listed the weapon stats and I realized that every fun weapon has been nerfed to the ground in the last 8 years that I haven't played TF2 :(
@HarperSeemsCool
@HarperSeemsCool 3 жыл бұрын
Sandman and Ambassador are the most heart breaking :(
@Rbum4
@Rbum4 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarperSeemsCool Sadly, I was never good enough for those weapons lol. I still am nostalgic to the time before the laser nerfs, where pomson and bison were dominating the meta
@kat-dy6jc
@kat-dy6jc 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarperSeemsCool ambassador is still really good it's just that it is completely overshadowed by the diamondback. for the Sandman, yeah it just sucks use the wrap assassin over it
@Maritime_Memories
@Maritime_Memories 3 жыл бұрын
"mvm will not be counted" the gas passer: its my time to shine
@Zenner5222
@Zenner5222 2 жыл бұрын
its crazy that of all the throwable liquids, the one that doesnt recharge when you use the supply locker is also the one with the weakest effect
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's basically a soldier banner that does nothing
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 3 жыл бұрын
15:02 Not Engies, Uncle Dane proved in his video that Stock Wrench is literally outclassed in all situations by every other wrench.
@cheezkid2689
@cheezkid2689 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that 2 of the 4 Pyro weapons added in Jungle Inferno are absolutely, completely useless.
@mahuba2553
@mahuba2553 3 жыл бұрын
1:03 you heartless monster
@kaschey6145
@kaschey6145 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I played with the Huo-Long Heater for some time and I came to a conclusion that this thing is good but not against spies - it's good for ambushes as you said, OR it's good when there are a lot of extremely aggressive players in the opposite team. When there are cocky scouts that constantly try to kill you by hugging your back, Huo-Long Heater just destroys them, as it confuses them and makes them look for a different strategy.
@MohamadDasyrian
@MohamadDasyrian 3 жыл бұрын
I love how every 30 seconds there's a clip of killing a phlog pyro. Just.... MWAH
@applesj83
@applesj83 2 жыл бұрын
For the liberty launcher, I think you should've talked a little about the gunboats/liberty launcher pair. The reduced blast damage from rocket jumping, and the even more reduced blast jump damage from the gunboats will make you take about 15-20 damage from jumps, and it is also really good for market gardens because your rockets will still do damage, but you lose the upsides of the mantreads.
@he11walker
@he11walker 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the old loch n load. 25% bonus damage and only 2 pipes. Stock never been my best friend but this guy, oh boy. You had only 2 pipes in the clip and no explosion damage but it reward you with massive damage like direct hit.
@vanguard1614
@vanguard1614 3 жыл бұрын
If the gas passer debuff would count as wet, it would have some use with the neon... but not even that
@spud4584
@spud4584 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to know the Scottish resistance isn't on this list, its my favorite sticky bomb launcher.
@Top10Dylan
@Top10Dylan 3 жыл бұрын
The neon annihilator is a really good weapon. If you're underwater and you have a flare gun as your secondary, then you're forced to pull out your melee. That's pretty much the only time a pyro would use his melee in combat, so why not deal more damage when doing so? And if a player normally uses the homewrecker on pyro, they can switch to the neon annihilator on maps with water, and it's nearly a direct upgrade from the homewrecker. The neon annihilator is such a good weapon, definitely the most underrated weapon of the whole game.
@FishOnGrass
@FishOnGrass 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even play tft anymore but this series still slapps like a cold fish to the face. Great content my dude!
@akihikosakurai4013
@akihikosakurai4013 3 жыл бұрын
The neon annihilator may be bad stat-wise but god damn is it fun as hell to use. Pyroshark is so fun
@ZaTrapu
@ZaTrapu 3 жыл бұрын
The holiday punch is a literally upgrade from the fists
@cheesepop7175
@cheesepop7175 Жыл бұрын
no it cannot do 195 damage
@ZaTrapu
@ZaTrapu Жыл бұрын
@@cheesepop7175 you get a free kill because you can kill them however you like while they stand there defenseless. Plus it can stun ubers. It's a direct upgrade
@PinheaDipshit
@PinheaDipshit 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think the manmelter pairs well with the dragons fury to negate the increased air last cool-down while still stopping your teammates from burning
@Brackets_Guy
@Brackets_Guy 3 жыл бұрын
@someniko02
@someniko02 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY SH*T THATS ME! THAT SCOUT ITS ME IM BOOTY SLAPER! 6:39
@loganjelinek2226
@loganjelinek2226 2 жыл бұрын
I know the discussion should be about the weapons but 0:39 landing on the sniper's head to avoid the lethal fall damage is the slickest move I've seen in a while.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 Жыл бұрын
I love how the worst weapon in TF2 is the best weapon in MVM
@Chaud31423
@Chaud31423 3 жыл бұрын
Manmelter should incorporate MMMPH in some way, and extinguishing teammates will add to it. Perhaps expending the MMMPH meter when you fire the Manmelter for Crits, so it can be used alongside the other primaries as a very fast and effective finisher tool. It wouldn't be on demand like the Flare Gun but it'd make for a very fast flare punch.
@john_marstonof1911
@john_marstonof1911 3 жыл бұрын
3:21 *hot hand for me* what it felt like
@henrywallace1823
@henrywallace1823 3 жыл бұрын
the overdose just turns you into what tf2's scout was originally going to be.
@kookeekwisp
@kookeekwisp Жыл бұрын
"The shiv technically does more damage than stock" How to make the tribleman's shiv deal less damage than stock: click twice
@billybyrns2557
@billybyrns2557 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The Gas Passer is literally just the most utterly pathetically useless waste of a slot piece of garbage that has ever disgraced our vision. I don’t understand what they were thinking, making it so unadulteratedly terrible.
@mudstick
@mudstick 3 жыл бұрын
my manmelter is named "Nice Scorch Shot, Idiot" i need to get a 'pyros killed' part for it
@cultnan1
@cultnan1 Жыл бұрын
I don't see why the gas passer is the worst weapon, I am a Pyro main and the only reason I do not have it equipped is because I'm doing a contract for the Thermal Thruster.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 2 жыл бұрын
Hot hand should deal two 55dmg swings in quick succession and i you can land both slaps it will be quite rewarding while speed boost should last 2-3 seconds.
@tondrone9124
@tondrone9124 3 жыл бұрын
4:10 this clip distracted me so much i didnt even focus on what you where saying 😂😂😂
@georgethakur
@georgethakur Ай бұрын
27:15 That little rapidly repeating musical phrase? It actually kinda sounds like the one in the riff that plays at the end of the TF2 theme and the Meet the Team videos
@miguelpozos4111
@miguelpozos4111 2 жыл бұрын
That enemy spy trying to fake friendly in order to get a backstab was one of the most disgusting things i have ever seen
@Pikana
@Pikana 3 жыл бұрын
Like I memed constantly in the first videos, if it wasn't for MvM, that piece of garbage would have literally no reason to exist. It's genuinely infuriating how bad it is in PvP.
@nieto00
@nieto00 3 жыл бұрын
Your probably talking about the gas paser but you should edit your comment to say whatever weapon you are talking about
@thewoodpeckers655
@thewoodpeckers655 2 жыл бұрын
Something worth mentioning about the loch and load is that it’s pretty good for hybrid knight, since your biggest fear is always a sentry gun, equipping something that specializes in destroying buildings can be worth having when most of your damage is with a sword.
@AugustAtrocities
@AugustAtrocities 2 жыл бұрын
15:57 AND it has a taunt kill, which you may not have noticed. But that's the main use for the fists. The stock reskins for heavy have NO taunt, making the fists ever-so-slightly more useful than you'd think.
@zarkthelark
@zarkthelark 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to point out how i would use the gas passer whenever i played pyro. But i found that if you paired with a flog and other teammates it actually worked well for getting mmmph and taking a bit of their health.
@beppermint4092
@beppermint4092 3 жыл бұрын
i mean, the scorch shot just does that job better though. the scorch shot's objectively overpowered though, clocking in at 126 damage on a target that *isn't* already on fire, so i guess it's not fair to make the comparison. also, the gas passer doesn't track it as "your" damage if the gas is set off by a different pyro on your team, so it won't help recharge itself or build mmmph if another pyro ignites them. i feel like the gas passer would be a lot better if it was just fully reworked, there's not really a great reason to use it if it doesn't count as a liqiuid or do anything that other pyro weapons already do better
@Forbiddina
@Forbiddina 3 жыл бұрын
The irony to me is that the gas passer is a beast in MVM 🤣. But yeah it’s irredeemable in normal matches.
@vinylwubs6987
@vinylwubs6987 2 жыл бұрын
0:53 ROOL TOOL
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 3 жыл бұрын
27:35 Funny how Jungle Inferno just gave Pyro either two of the worst items in the game(Hot Hand, Gas Passer) or it gave two of the most underwhelming and outclassed unlocks(Dragon Fury is basically worse Direct Hit, and Jetpack is almost worse Detonator) Despite Heavy "loosing" the war, he got the best unlock in the update. Hilarity ensues
@quietespresso
@quietespresso 3 жыл бұрын
TheWhatShow:Rocket Jumper is A tier Soundsmith:u have chosen death
@CozyBoat275
@CozyBoat275 3 жыл бұрын
Reliable self defense weapon? Riiiiiiiight.
@zekmoly6064
@zekmoly6064 2 жыл бұрын
gas passer being the worst gun in a gamemode and then being the most powerful and basically the BEST ONE in another game mode is quite ironic
@mythmakroxymore1670
@mythmakroxymore1670 2 жыл бұрын
Hot hand is hot with the gas passer, even if you run outta ammo you can tun around setting people on fire faster than the Volcano fragment. Funny weapon achieved
@onewingedakuma6835
@onewingedakuma6835 2 жыл бұрын
TheWhatshow: puts rocket jumper in A tier Me: *Laughs in Soundsmith*
@aeoninfinity247
@aeoninfinity247 2 жыл бұрын
"Blutsauger goes in C tier" Every Battle Medic: *roll over, try not to cry, cry a lot* (speaking from personal experience ;-;)
@uraccountcrashed8845
@uraccountcrashed8845 3 жыл бұрын
The Syringe Gun? More like the Syr-CRINGE Gun!
@Albert-yu1cg
@Albert-yu1cg 3 жыл бұрын
18:35 the loch n load is like pump action because all the grenades go in the bottom and they all shoot out the top
@a.person1805
@a.person1805 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the stock syringe gun. Its design is the perfect mix of funny,in character,and fun to look at,but its stats are just atrocious. Forget the bison,this is the meme weapon that's too bad to even be a meme.
@Mr_Rykes
@Mr_Rykes 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go the best boy wrap assassin was omitted. No one shall insult my grinch stick.
@TheWhatShow
@TheWhatShow 3 жыл бұрын
Wrap assassin rocks, always remember to taunt after a tube kill
@Mr_Rykes
@Mr_Rykes 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWhatShow hell yeah, up top
@Veldore
@Veldore 2 жыл бұрын
this man spitting about the manmelter but all I could hear was "DESU DESU, DESU"
@Nightmare_52
@Nightmare_52 3 жыл бұрын
biggest downside for the overdose is the ear splintering firing sound
@thepianobirb4388
@thepianobirb4388 3 жыл бұрын
" the best melee for medic is the ubersaw" me, a medic main that picks the amputator as the best :**correctly angery**
@spookycactus3188
@spookycactus3188 2 жыл бұрын
I love the scorch shot😘
@carolinewald3109
@carolinewald3109 2 жыл бұрын
Talks about the syringe gun: uses the blutsager Talks about the blutsager: uses the overdose Talks about the overdose: uses the overdose
@PlankWood
@PlankWood 2 жыл бұрын
What I love using the Liberty Launcher with the same load out. Every light class handled normally while heavier classes can be killed with a market garden and 2 rockets at most.
@foxiestofbuns3727
@foxiestofbuns3727 Жыл бұрын
You know what the gas passers biggest crime is, the fact that it doesn't have different effect in provision
@mrcheapskate750
@mrcheapskate750 2 жыл бұрын
This made me realize how powerful a pyro+scout combo can be because the scout can make them get crit by the neon annihilater with his max milk, and the pyro can set them alight, making scout crit them with his sun-on-a-stick
@Abobziel
@Abobziel 3 жыл бұрын
I know you were basing this off regular tf2, but as someone who frequently plays x10/x100, the huo long heater is genuinely overpowered in that gamemode, and along with the tomislav is the meta for heavy in my experience
@MrOrgeston
@MrOrgeston 3 жыл бұрын
Ending made me laugh out loud. Excellent work.
@matesdostal5208
@matesdostal5208 3 жыл бұрын
pyros will be expecting either normal or direct hit rocket so yeah, i do hate fighting this weapon
@mudstick
@mudstick 3 жыл бұрын
the homewrecker is great when the enemy team has competent spies and you have a competent engie. i run it on uncletopia; teleporter beats powerjack any day
@jcplays5831
@jcplays5831 3 жыл бұрын
I remember at one point you could jump with loch n load. Simpler times, they were
@youraveragemedicmain8434
@youraveragemedicmain8434 3 жыл бұрын
5:19 Needle Gun trio? More like Murder Time trio
@carl3244
@carl3244 2 жыл бұрын
25:41 made me so thrilled it made my heart beat so fast and everything
@frontierdustice
@frontierdustice 2 жыл бұрын
The Loch ‘N Load’s range can be explained in a simple manner: you can hit anyone between the two bases in 2fort. No really, you can shoot a pipe from RED battlements to BLU battlements and catch an unsuspecting sniper. Oh, and you can do it behind cover.
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