Dude, this is unbelievable. I sometimes think that people obsess a little too much about tools and not enough on technique and skill but if you’re gonna nerd out on tools, *this* is how it’s done. Whatever your compensation ends up being for this series of tests, it’s not enough...
@Cravenfester3 жыл бұрын
As a computer engineer, I appreciate the level of data you put into the decision. As a hobby woodworker, this is insanely cool, thank you.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@microwave2213 жыл бұрын
This was astounding to me, I never would have expected there to be that much variability between largely similar chisels. This was truly a public service
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad to help.
@wabio4 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of Narex Richters earlier this year. I used them when I built a 12' x 10' custom oak entertainment center I was quoted at $12K by local cabinet makers. Love them! Finished the project and the chisels are still crazy sharp. Let's put it this way. With my previous chisels, I had difficulty hand paring endgrain white oak. I can do this relatively easily with these chisels. I'm actually considering purchasing a second set.
@timothyvolkers53432 жыл бұрын
Just wondering but you mentioned that you thinking of buying a second set of the Richter Narex chisels. I own a small set of the mid grade Narex chisels, I was using the wooden handle Harbor freight chisels but I enjoy hobbyist woodworking quite a lot so I went for the Narex chisels upgrade. The price difference of the two versions of the Narex chisels, the lower cost version then the more expensive Richter Narex chisels is quite a large amount so I'm very curious with you already owning a set of the Richter's why you are thinking of buying another set. So if you can tell me why you liked the Richter's so much and why you are thinking of picking up another set. Thanks for any of the information that you can give.
@wabio2 жыл бұрын
@@timothyvolkers5343 Main reason is because I'm lazy and I hate sharpening. Having two sets allows me to be more lazy. 😂 I've currently have 5 sets of chisels: Harbor Freight, Stanley from Home Depot, Irwin Marples, Stanley Sweetheart, and Narex Richter. The Richters are the best by far. Many KZbin woodworkers......J. Katz-Moses, James Hamilton (Stumpy Nubs), Rob Cosman, and James Wright (Wood by Wright) have high praise for these. Definitely go and check out all their videos......very eye opening information.
@timothyvolkers53432 жыл бұрын
@@wabio cool will do thanks
@giorgiochiappini19312 жыл бұрын
I'm going to buy some new chisels after watching this masterpiece of a tool test/research. I own a full set of Two Cherries and a Irwin Marples one. I'm using the first one for finishing/precise tasks and the second one as work horse chisels. In defense to the Irwing Marples, those are built exactly to chop and remove large quantity of wood fast, a task that dulls chisels heavly and that's why they're built with softer metal, the why comes from the plus that you sharpen them faster! They're heavy duty, you can hammer them as you like having metal ends, the grip is great and they won't slip from your hand thanks to the rubber handles. Some tools are built differently because they serve a different purpose, spend three times more and you will not get three times the benefit if the purpose is not the same. Irwing Marples are probably designed to be great carpenters chisels, and they are, but I'm a wood worker and after watching this awesome research, the Irwing are not the ones I'm going to replace, I'll buy a Narex Ritcher for finer tasks and keep the Irwing because they're great for what they are built for. Amazing work by the way, that was huge and priceless!
@jonaskup14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video. I've always thought that our czech tools as Narex are great, but I would never think of them as the best of the best. Gives me nice warm feeling :). Thanks a lot!
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Right on. they did a bang up job on this one!
@clemoniii3 жыл бұрын
1. Thanks for offering a “membership”. I’m NOT a fan of Patreon. 2. Love the detailed OBJECTIVE review. Prior to finding this and joining, I selected 3 Narex Richter’s, and thought I’d made a mistake. Two had something like 23 degree bevels and one had a tactile and easily visible step on the back. Kudos to TayTools for offering replacement, refund, OR compensation for my time to reface the back. I kept them, and will not take anything from TayTools because it wasn’t their fault. They sat in a drawer for a few weeks, but after I finally trued them up... WOW. They are an absolute delight to use!
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
I love Tay Tools service. They keep me coming back?
@clemoniii3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright AGREED! I've bought blemished and first run squares First blem was dead square, second wasn't, so returned and bought PEC dead square, but won't tighten. it's a if thumb screw is bottoming. Ordered a bunch more stuff last night. They make returns as easy as orders, and just as delightful on every call. It is clear they are in this to be of service to the customer!!! I'll always be one!
@Seminex2223 жыл бұрын
"the hardness isn't what matters.....it's how it actually performs" made my day :D :D
@tonyv38604 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. I was planning on upgrading my chisels and I was waiting for your test results. I took your advice and I have a set of Richter on order.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Have fun with those. I'm having a ton of fun with mine.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Updated Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4fFZISZfruJf9E Link to data sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XoOGNmJUXlaVbNw5BcKtcbZzft6aZiQKjdeQRDBNE08/edit?usp=sharing 0:19 Into 0:46 How the Chisel test was conducted Video showing the testing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGrHmqZ3nZmoppY 2:04 Objective Vs. Subjective Testing 4:03 look at the actual data of the chisel test 4:50 How to adjust for your chisel preferences 15:10 A few things I learned about chisels 17:17 How long the chisel test took 18:49 Interesting findings from the chisel test 19:47 What is the best Chisel overall winner 20:33 What is the Best value Chisel
@richarddun63074 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy your videos, but in this one you talk way to fast for us southern boys.
@quietwoodworking4 жыл бұрын
@@richarddun6307 I sometimes go to the settings and slow the video down to say .75
@julessandoval44244 жыл бұрын
Decided to go with a set of Narex Richters.
@kevinreed40274 жыл бұрын
I wish your graphs were on separate pages. Just so I could print and study them.
@tylerbloom88893 жыл бұрын
This is just an awesome set of data. I have been reviewing your spreadsheet in detail and am curious if there is a labeling error in columns AF to AN. The sharpness number as I understand means lower is better or more sharp. In these columns we see before numbers lower than after and am curious if that is backwards or I don't understand the data. Either way to me this is so awesome and really shows me that the Richter is the choice when time comes to upgrade.
@sjimerfield4 жыл бұрын
I got the Narex Richter box set the other day. Wow, right out of the box they are super. At this price, I've never gotten a tool so well made. I don't even want to check the back for flat as it will ruin the amazing polish. I honed a micro bevel, hit them with a strop and was ready to go in less than a 1/2 hour. I tested the 1/2" right out of the box on a piece of hard maple, and it cut nicely. Put on the micro bevel and slices like butter. The handles are great too. Well done Narex!
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
I have been loving mine. A really nice all-round product.
@rosstifer074 жыл бұрын
wow James, thanks for all the work you put into this! Really appreciate the work instead of a sales pitch for one chisel or another
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
thanks man. this one was a ton of fun to put together.
@shanemelville3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to let you know that I was looking to buy a good set of chisels & after watching this video I bought the Narex Ritcher set of chisels, wow what a delight to work with they hold an edge so well. I have been putting some end caps or bread boards on my shop work bench & these chisels have been invaluable for this. Thank you, thank you your hard work & all that went into you making this video paid of at least for me. I didn't have to give up a kidney to get a good set of chisels
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Hey Shane. My pleasure. Glad I can help out.
@richardwilson17023 жыл бұрын
Wow! I am glad your mind and body can handle analyzing to this kind of detail. It isn't in my emotional makeup. I bought the Nerex Richter last spring. Great Chisels. I even shave with them.....NOT!!! unless you count the hair on my arms.
@tylerhayes92434 жыл бұрын
I literally "liked" and "unliked" this video over and over so I could "like" this video more than once. Speaking of weighting, KZbin needs to allow me to like a video 1 time... or like a video 10 times. That would be a much better reflection of how good a video is. This would be a 10 for sure. Absolutely phenomenal. Speaking my language.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. This was a fun one. I'm probably going to be doing a test here very soon similar to this but with plain irons.
@robdrownyt3 жыл бұрын
I agree. As an engineer with experience in steels and materials testing, this is a quality job! Well done! This is almost technical paper to be published quality. I’ll bet all the chisel manufacturers have looked at it.
@MrBrewzr4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all of your hard work as a new woodworker I find this information so valuable. For me, what makes this so valuable is I don’t know what a chisel is supposed to feel like, I don’t know what it supposed to cut like. What you provided enables me to go “OK this is what is supposed to feel like, this is what it’s supposed to cut like.” So when I’m trying to learn how to cut dove tails, and I’m having a hard time, it’s probably not the chisel. It might be my ability to sharpen it, or flatten it, or use it, but it’s not the quality of the tool. I mean I could just go out and spend a King’s ransom on a brand name and get the same thing, but I’m not a king, nor do I have ransom money, lol. So again thanks for the nearly 200 hours of hard work, those Narex Ricter were on my radar already your affiliate link will be used when I do pull the trigger.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Glad I could help.
@fotopfanatic3 жыл бұрын
Quantitative data > subjective data. Every single time. Kudos to you for this testing!
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just started in on testing plane irons. This should be fun.
@thenorsemangamer3 жыл бұрын
Wow seriously, this solved any questions I had for picking out a chisel set.
@mikestewart5053 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1.5" Richter based on this review, to compliment my ok set of Wood Rivers. Ordered the full set two days later. OK is okay, but these are a big step up at a decent price.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
I have been loving mine. Amazing chisels.
@Cygnusvailand3 жыл бұрын
Really glad you made this. Testing methods were very thorough. Managed to get my hands on two of the Narex Richter chisels and they are both a joy to handle and work with. They are easy to sharpen, hold their edge relatively well, and look/feel gorgeous. Thanks for taking the time to gather and present this data.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. I'm in the middle of doing a test on replacement plane irons.
@MrNikke963 жыл бұрын
seriusly even if you wouldnt care a bit about this videos content, its just sooo much data gathered better than so many actual studys or research you cant be anything less than amazed! only little thing i would personally maybe change is to set the graph verticals to different colour/shade every other line to make it easier :)
@caseyconner894 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. What a public service. Thank you.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. My pleasure.
@18roselover4 жыл бұрын
Got 2 sets of the aldi chisels 2.5 yrs ago gave 1 sharpened set away. Bought the Narex cryo set this winter , Very impressive indeed, I have a set of older pfeil carving chisels that I bought 48 yrs ago and they are excellent for carving. The narex cryo chisels work well in vy hard woods . I put a 30 deg secondary bevel on them and touch them up on a 13 k ceramic stone.
@jackpardun28984 жыл бұрын
I'm an Elskituna Erik Anton Berg fan myself. Tradition swedish steel has no conpitition. The older the better
@andrewclough6604 жыл бұрын
i differ, ive never found anything better than the great Japanese chisels. same with their water stones
@robdrownyt3 жыл бұрын
I have a set of sanvick chisels and they are pretty good. I like them. I got them used and they kind of have history. Again old Swedish steel. They have served me well.
@robdrownyt3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewclough660 I have tried water stones. They work well but one must be careful to keep them flat. Really flat. I tried a Norton flattening stone and it was NOT flat enough. I was not able to get straight edges especially on plane blades. I am using 4 diamond stones and they are flat and quick to put I service. As Per Paul Sellers.
@ToolsofthepastАй бұрын
Shark brand are amazing the three I find from restoring lots is berg Stanley 720 and old Marples
@glennphilipson72314 жыл бұрын
Great work James one of the best if not the very best videos of it's type I've ever seen. Stay safe brother and look after that wife of yours she's a hero.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
thanks man. glad I could help!
@heystarfish1004 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome testing procedures James. Thanks for your dedication and efforts in putting the tremendous amount of work into making this information available for us viewers. 😎👍
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
thanks. it was my pleasure.
@DaughtersWoodCo3 жыл бұрын
Hey James! Thanks so much for all this hard work! I just bought me a set of the Narex Richter chisel based off your test. I've been debating for awhile what chisels to get and seeing the data for how sharp the richter stayed was what finally sealed the deal for me. Thanks again!
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
glad I could help. I am in the middle of testing Plane Irons now!
@joshvincze74604 жыл бұрын
Incredible work! Truly a public service as stated before.
@danielnordstrand64432 жыл бұрын
I love the objective tests! It's hard to find these tests in tools, and they make for an easy choice. Thank you!
@Varco0093 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video for all of us.
@jr30024 жыл бұрын
I use and like Hida Taikei Bench chisels (Hida Tool, Berkeley, CA), a few vintage Japanese chisels from eBay (unknown pedigree), and one custom 1.5mm chisel from Blue Spruce Tools (Portland, OR). I had a full set of the Stanley Sweetheart socket chisels but sold them off; and have to say, I much prefer the weight and balance, plus the shorter blade lengths of the Japanese style chisel. Chisels are indeed a very personal choice! I like my Blue Spruce chisel a lot - it was absolutely immaculate from out of the box, and the fluted handle stops it rolling around at all on the bench. I was lucky to have had the opportunity to try out many different chisels while attending the Inside Passage School in BC - there's nothing like trying fellow student's chisels for a few minutes to compare them for feel.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
So true. There's so much about chisels that is completely personal and you never really know until you have the chance to play with them yourself.
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
I have some stubby chisels. I consider those to be just about worn out. They seen a bit too much abrasion in their lives. I like me longer chisels personally. Pool cue sized.
@robdrownyt3 жыл бұрын
I love Blue Spruce tools!!
@samg38842 жыл бұрын
I'm a fiend for analytical, quantitative evidence. Your channel is a new find for me this is my first video but I'm going to binge your channel now!!! Keep it up it's hard to find channels that review products with empirical data.
@WoodByWright2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That means a lot. I try and do one good test like this every 9 months to a year or so. Right now I'm actually working on a follow-up to this test with several other chisels. But I'm also working on a plane iron bed test should be fairly interesting.
@adamcbrewer4 жыл бұрын
This video deserves more views and likes, great job 👍
@egbluesuede12203 жыл бұрын
Wow....was researching the Narex Richters and found this video. Super impressed by the research you put into this and for freely sharing. I'm both a tool and a data nerd, so I was in heaven digging into the numbers.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. My pleasure. This is a fun one. Currently in the middle of doing the same thing for plain irons. Hoping to have it out sometime around Christmas.
@samueldavis58953 жыл бұрын
The richter set is wonderful. Also Stanley 750 sweethearts I find to be pretty damn good too. I really liked that the Stanley set came with 1/16” chisel... a size you rarely get in a set.
@Andyjpro4 жыл бұрын
WOW. This is such impressive work. Feel kinda dirty I'm getting this info for free! Thanks for everything you do James!
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
thanks Andy. this was a fun one to dig into!
@Jacob199233 жыл бұрын
The side walls of the mk2 Ashley Iles bevel edged chisels really are quite small from new, your data point might be correct and have little do with the sharpening over time (although I can’t confirm this because mine are worn from sharpening also). I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about the Ashley Iles in the comments section though? They’re unreal chisels. A lot of furniture maker friends of mine here in the UK use them, maybe they’re just as well known in the US?
@mikepierce42164 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of the time and effort you invested in harvesting your data! You're amazing!! Such detail! We also thank your family for lending you to us.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. This was a fun one for sure
@sc13863 жыл бұрын
kudos man, you really out did your self this time, in that you spend this much time in testing these chisels, thanks for making it easier on us in deciding which chisels to buy
@watermain484 жыл бұрын
Based on your video, which I just watched again, I ordered 1/2" Narex Richter and I can honestly say I am very impressed with it. It came sharp and the back was flat on arrival. I can't wait to get the rest of a set of these. Nicely done James.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Nice. all of my new ones were perfectly flat when they came. it is a sign of a good chisel!
@watermain484 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright It is nice for a change not to have to spend an hour getting a new chisel ready to do what it was made for...
@alvagoldbook22 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner wood worker. I picked up a few odd ball things from Harbor Freight a few years ago. Some chisels. A handplane. I used them (mostly the planer) and found that I absolutely hated them. I kept thinking to myself "I hate hand tools". For Christmas my wife got me a new Stanley hand plane. First time I used it I was blown away. Now I'm thinking those HF chisels are just as bad. I'm going to get me some of the Narex Richters.
@WoodByWright2 жыл бұрын
Most people don't know how fun hand woodworking can be until they try a truly sharp nice tool.
@allen1313134 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!!! That's an awesome amount of great data. Turns out that I have a very good selection of glue scrapers that I thought were chisels. :) Now, thanks to you, I have the data to make my real chisel buying decisions. Great testing!
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help LOL thanks man. glad I could help.
@INeverApologize3 жыл бұрын
Came across this video as I need to upgrade my chisels. Subscribed to your channel based on this video alone. Well done!
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Saturday I'll have the conclusion to the plain iron test coming out. That should be a lot of fun as well.
@SpiderMaow3 ай бұрын
Oh men what a detailed video! Congrats for this high quality content mate !
@lewisschrader49264 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you very much for this! This must have been a serious endeavor to provide all this crazy in-depth information. I was set to buy one Veritas PM-V11 chisel until I saw this. I'm a novice so I appreciate the info. I choose to buy the Richter chisels instead as a result of your testing. I'm anxious to work with them.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lewis. this was a fun one for sure!
@rikityrik Жыл бұрын
I know it's an older video but you did an unbelievable job here. The attention to detail is appreciated. I would be interested to see what the best is if you give the preference portion 5’s on all of except price and leave that one out or of low importance. Guess I better go check out your spreadsheet. Thanks for the great comparison, Very Impressive!👍
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. If you make a copy of the spreadsheet then you can change the waiting to whatever you want. I wanted to keep it that way so that people could find the chisels that best fits them. You also notice the spreadsheet has a few more titles added. I didn't update since this video.
@jonesey19815 ай бұрын
So much work, super appreciate your sharing the findings. You sold me on the Narex Richter. Availabile, and they're not a ton more expensive than some cheaper options.
@joeleonetti89764 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Looks like you spent a lot of time preparing for this. The good things about handles is that I'm a woodworker and I can always make one if that is a criteria that doesn't rank high.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
right on. so true!
@jbrown22703 жыл бұрын
Wow, you went above and beyond! I bought a couple of the Richters and plan on adding others as needed
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This weekend I'm hoping to have the video out on doing similar tests with plain irons.
@rcort48643 жыл бұрын
Great job. Very thorough. I bought a set of the HF wood chisels (on sale for $10) because I was impressed on the quality of at least the looks of them for that price. I was disappointed in the durability of the chisels, but encouraged by your discovery that the chisel performs much better at a 30 degree bevel over the 25 degree bevel that the chisels come with. I will try the 30 degree bevel and see how that works. I am seriously thinking of getting a set of the Narex Richter Chisels, thanks to your video. Thanks again for such a good presentation.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
thanks. my pleasure.
@JackbenchWoodworking3 жыл бұрын
Bravo James! You really outdid yourself on this one. Thanks for doing the work and taking the time to provide such good objective information.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I am hoping to have the plane iron test out next week.
@makenchips3 жыл бұрын
At first I thought I was looking at a bar taps , and wondering what brands they were! 🤣🤣🤣
@animalivaganti3604 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a huge job James. Congratulations and thank you very much.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. this was a fun one to put together.
@DarkTubeToo3 жыл бұрын
Wright you must have a background in finance. That is the very well formatted spreadsheet. Very nice. I know this channel is about woodworking, but I was impressed with the spreadsheet (yes I'm a nerd) and had to give you kudos. Thank you for the review.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
thanks. I do love a good spread sheet. I am not from Finance. but my masters was in technical theater. (Engendering for theater) so I did a whole lot of destructive experiments and gained a love for testing things.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
also I am about to start the next one on the second channel looking at plane irons. kzbin.info/www/bejne/onLUq3uCgq9jprc
@robdrownyt3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright you are an ENGINEER AT HEART.
@jonasdaverio93694 жыл бұрын
I was a bit sad seeing the old Pfeil was so much better, since I own a set of new Pfeils. But anyway, they are really good (the finish was awfull through, imho, but I just redid it), and they are made in the country I live in, so I'm happy to support a local manufacturer. Plus, they really weren't expensive here, between 15 to 25 CHF each. (1CHF~1USD)
@TomBuskey4 жыл бұрын
I was recommended the Pfeils by a woodworking student. I like the feel & actually like the roughness. I've been very happy with them.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The surface on those is an acquired taste. Most people end up refinishing them as soon as they get them. I love the octagonal shape though it feels so good in the hand.
@jonasdaverio93694 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I feel like this finish is sloppy, like if Pfeil would want to cut down on the cost. Which is a bit contradictory with the fact that they sell them almost razor sharp... But I'm indeed really happy with them, they look quite simple but in the same time so good, I don't know. Some British chisels or gouges can look a bit fancier, but not necessary better I think
@joeleonetti89764 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been thinking about what you said in this video. What it tells me is that if you spend mid-range on price there are a lot of good chisels to chose from. There are diminishing returns on the expensive ones. The inexpensive ones carry more risk in terms of how well it performs. As for me, it's all a moot point as I own four sets of chisels and I have absolutely no need for another set. Two of the brands were tested here. Two of the others are older brands; one has a reputation as being good quality, the other is probably ok given it is old and has Sheffield steel and I am guessing that there is more than marketing as to Sheffield steel being good.
@petermikus23639 ай бұрын
Narex doesn't make just chisels. They also make hand tools (Ratchets, wrenches, screwdrivers and so on). They make Powertools as well, and they are pretty good honestly. For some reason they have 60V, 20V and some other hand tool variants, yes you read that right 60V.
@MrMNRichardWright4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thank you for putting in all the work it takes to conduct a bias free study. I am very happy I got my Aldi wood handle chisels when I did. But really excited to look for old Pfeil units.
@unclebob874611 ай бұрын
Outstanding! I have a lot of experience with statistics and Excel; great to see your data.
@bigfrank29593 жыл бұрын
Im surprised there were no japanese chisels in here considering how much work you did and what an amazing job you did!
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
There was one Japanese just along the lineup. But generally Japanese chisels cost way too much to put into this. You tend to buy the mystique rather than the quality with those.
@PerArvidsson2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch. Just ordered a set of Narex Richter!
@paulchek30794 жыл бұрын
Awesome, well done test. Very comprehensive. Using the sharpness tester was a wonderful idea. Thank You.
@elfpimp13 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but experiences must vary. I am dabbling in woodworking myself and didn't want to spend too much on a chisel set so I looked at a few reviews on the chisels HF carries. The wooden ones have a tendency to lose the front ferule when tapped with a wood mallet. I went with the resin handled set of four. Wow. Impressed is putting it lightly. First thing I noticed was it's heft, then I did an end grain test. I actually got a wisp instead of bits of wood. After that I did what I like to call a belly and cup test. I color the flat, and swirl it around on sandpaper (wet dry high grit) to see how bad they may be cupped or if they have a belly(due to some companies honing before the hardening). Again, impressed no cup or belly.
@adriaan76274 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all this data. Very enlightening. Buying the full set of Richter is a bit much for me. I barely use the small chisels. Like the bigger ones :-)
@adifferentangle70643 жыл бұрын
Honestly, sharpenability is much higher on my list than comfort. I'm a woodworker. I modify every single tool I own, so comfort is literally what I make it. For me, it's a balancing act between sharpenability, hardness and durability. I'm very keen on getting my hands on some pmv-11 chisels to see how they hold up. But there are a few chisels that didn't make your list I think would be worth putting in amongst it. Old Swedish steel chisels, HSS chisels, old carbon steel chisel that is hardened under 60 hrc.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
I am in the middle of testing a few more to add tot eh list, but I am very resistant to test older chisels for much more then a control as the quality varied greatly from batch to batch. testing one really does nto say much about the total. even with newer computer controlled heating we still see changes from batch to batch, but no ware near the wide range more then 40 years ago.
@deagle3874 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a fantastic experiment! Great information. Thank you!
@DonsWoodies4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, James. Thanks for doing all this. Lots of interesting data. Only one problem. Now, as with Paul Sellers causing old planes to double in price on ebay every time he mentions one, The Richter chisels will now go up in price based on your recommendation. Oh, what a tangle web we weave when we review tools..... :-)
@iainmporter4 жыл бұрын
The Seller's effect is awful! Just a few years ago in the UK a Stanley router plane would have set you back about £25 on a well known auction site. You will now be lucky to get one for under £100.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
yup the sport is growing quickly.
@EmileRedant4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing the work and sharing the raw data with us!
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@johnhiemstra14644 жыл бұрын
Chiseled physique. Hmm... Cutting edge humour. Your really sharp James. Seriously though I'm taking away that a 30 degree angle is the way to go. Thanks James for the good stuff you do.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks John!
@sheslop8883 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for all that data. I'm just browsing KZbin looking for comparisons on chisels - I'm hoping to buy a set. I'm looking forward to diving into your dats.
@WoodByWright3 жыл бұрын
thanks. that was a fun test for sure!
@ucenicul4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, thanks for this video. For me the best chisel is Erik Anton Berg (Eskilstuna - Sweden), and I have and use Narex basic (plast line -CZ), Lidl (aldi europe - China), JN (jan Nooitgedagt - NL), Peugeot Freres and Goldberg (FR), blue chisel (JP). For me it matters the durability and how it feels not only the handle but also the blade. PS: Narex basic is the same as lidl (aldi) but the handle is worse.
@tylersmith98683 жыл бұрын
I was just gifted a set of EA Berg chisels and they are absolutely amazing. Not sure whether I want to use them or leave them as is which would be tough
@ucenicul3 жыл бұрын
@@tylersmith9868 told you :)
@PerryChristensen4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the time and effort you put in to pull this all together!
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. This was a fun one
@alasdairspitzer46252 жыл бұрын
5 mins and I'm impressed
@WoodByWright2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually about 2 weeks away from releasing the second installment with 42 chisels total.
@Ham682294 жыл бұрын
Besides Japanese chisels, Narex have had me sold for a long time now. But, as you stated, it's a personal preference. Great video and thank you for the spreadsheet. Cheers :)
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
right on. thanks man!
@daleswier84294 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, and you’ve really put in a ton of work on this topic. I have an old set (complete set, in the original wooden box) of Buck Bros. chisels. A bit of an effort to sharpen that really hard steel but once a good edge is achieved again they are nice.
@darylhawes88044 жыл бұрын
James, Oh my gosh you have gone way over the top with this review. Thank you for putting so much into this. VERY informative. When I go to the chart I can't play with the weights, it's view only. Am I missing something?
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. you have to create a copy to change things. that way everyone is not changing the original. go up to file and there is an option to create copy.
@darylhawes88044 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thank you.. that worked. 👍
@JohnInWaterdown4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely an awesome project. Can't beat data and objective measurements. Subjective things count too, especially to an individual, just not first in a side by side evaluation. Very well presented, thank you. I am sorry that you couldn't include IBC but you can't do everything. Well timed too, since I am looking to add a couple of additions to my kit. I was going to add to my Lie Nielsen set or perhaps give IBC a try, but the Richters look pretty tempting.
@kvernon23 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting video Thanks. I was especially interested in one chisel set in this study that I have--the Stanley Sweetheart. I also have an old set of Marples paring chisels and a set of Aldis that I use for rough work. I am fond of the Marples mostly for aesthetic reasons--they're pretty.
@jimbo26294 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a comment on the boxwood handled Sorby. I bought mine decades ago at great expense because they were reckoned to be the best. I bought a set of Narex more recently and find they keep an edge better. I don’t worry about the sharpen ability as I use a Worksharp which takes all the effort out. I buy old chisels. Sometimes they are great and often they are poor. I bought a couple of new ones from the big box store for rough work and they are really good. In England Marples chisels are common. The ones I have the steel is too soft for my liking. If I were starting again I’d buy Narex and turn boxwood handles for them. I don’t like octagonal.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Box wood is a fun wood for it.
@FredMcIntyre4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the info and all of the work comparing and compiling! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@FrankTheTank75752 жыл бұрын
You are such a nerd... I love it. Thanks for the analysis.
@1S4Per2 жыл бұрын
Just wow. Thanks so so much. Unbelievable deep dive!
@WoodByWright2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will have a new one with 20 more chisels coming out on this in a few weeks.
@DuncanEdwards.4 жыл бұрын
So happy my Ashley Isles set came out second
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
They are nice! this was too much fun to play with those.
@robertberger86422 ай бұрын
Great testing and review!
@MCsCreations4 жыл бұрын
I really liked your science, dude. Very well done. The only other youtuber with that level of concern to the data and methodology I've ever seen is Joshua Bardwell. But his videos are about quadcopters, so very different interests. 😬 Anyway, just subscribed! Stay safe there! 🖖😊
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man that means a lot
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
You've obviously never seen any Project Farm videos.
@MCsCreations4 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred I haven't, but I'm going to look into it. Thanks! 😊
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
@@MCsCreations his last video was meh. But some he does he really covers stuff. A lot of stuff he does he just does for laughs though. Like making a cylinder head out of JB Weldit. Still pretty funny.
@FilthyCasualRacing2 ай бұрын
I'm still using harbor freight wooden handle chisels. Have been for a while... They're fine. Going to eventually get something else, but for learning I don't think they are terrible to get. Just know how to sharpen and they will get the job done.
@grandadz_forge4 жыл бұрын
Shawn Graham sorta sold me on the Marples (Irwin) and I'm too cheap to switch. But I love them so I wouldn't anyway. However I want to forge my own set and this is outstanding as a design guide. Thanks
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!thanks man! it was very interesting to compare them all side by side and feel them all.
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
New Marples are not what the name used to mean. Vintage Marples were the stuff. Modern ones, not so much. They're OK. But there's better out there. At least that's what I've heard from just about everyone. Not to say that you couldn't work with them. But they're nothing I'd lust after getting myself.
@grandadz_forge4 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred yep. Shawn warned about the quality. "Good entry level chisel" i just haven't advanced enough to look upwards yet. Lol Thanks to James I'll know where to go
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
@@grandadz_forge yeah there's nothing specifically wrong with them. Marples used to be some of the best though. Now they're average. Going from some of the best to average is quite a step down too. When an A student becomes a C student you have to assume they've gotten caught up with the wrong crowd. That guy named Irwin.
@carljames9351Ай бұрын
Man, I wish you’d have tested one of my old toffee handled marples shamrock chisels. Very self assessed as my favourite chisel of all time. It’d be interesting to see if it’s all in my head and hand hopes rather than fact.
@WoodByWrightАй бұрын
I did one of those in the updated test.
@carljames9351Ай бұрын
@@WoodByWright is there another vid. I just noticed this was posted a while ago.
@seantyree84434 жыл бұрын
i like the ashley ther beveled edge goes all the way down you get flex in the blade when you wanna do pairing and its just the best ones i found for doing dove tails and other joints !
@philippboetcher99593 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@bensnyder58904 жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome awesome work James. You came to the same conclusion I did. Although I'm particular to the ashely because of the feel of the round back, I will definitely look at the cryo on my next purchase.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
thanks Ben. this was a seriously fun one to put together.
@VORONM4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very useful review! I use Narex chisels, too.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@tellthemborissentyou4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing all of that work. It really is a useful resource.
@williamweatherall83333 жыл бұрын
You aren’t the only one who made note of the quality of the old pfeil chisels. There’s this other guy, pretty old dude who does amazing work who says they’re the best. Probably this is what he’s talking about.
@Mark_Wood2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Making me feel good about just getting a set of Narex Richters! 160 Hours? Wow!
@WoodByWright2 жыл бұрын
I have a more recent one with double the chisels included. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2SmfZiLr56opsU
@Mark_Wood2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Thanks!
@BradsWorkbench4 жыл бұрын
The stanley everlast is my favorite by far. But thats based upon the handle I like so much
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Oh ys got to love the feel of those.
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
If they're socket chisels making new handles is par for the course. I suppose even tang chisels you have to rehandle. I don't happen to like tang chisels myself though. When you're making handles you can make them however you like. I generally copy the Stanley Sweetheart pattern. As it is a simple one.
@BradsWorkbench4 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred thats exactly what i have done 👍
@1pcfred4 жыл бұрын
@@BradsWorkbench yeah I've made a few chisel handles. Never set out to make a whole nice matched set like I've seen some do online. Maybe someday when I've nothing better to do? Not today though. Today I'm powerwashing the house. Funzie!
@BradsWorkbench4 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred i'm the same way lol... clamp racks always get me. People put out videos of these fancy racks..... me, i nail a 1x4 to bar studs and call it good. I prefer to make projects rather than shop stuff
@brianmurrah86363 жыл бұрын
Excellent Test. I believe there may be a fat finger mistake in cell CW12 states that it took 87 strokes to cut through the Hickory 25° in test C for the Aldi chisel.
@joschkapeterschilka26444 жыл бұрын
I love the MHG chisels, they are fairly cheap but they are flat and you can get them in different shapes. (short, long, side bevel with 0.4mm,...)
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Ya I wanted to try their steel but was not able to get them in this time.
@tysonleyba4304 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the hard work and for sharing with us the info you found.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@dannyhale76454 жыл бұрын
If I had known you were doing this, I could have loaned you one of my real Marples Blue Chip chisels that I bought in the 90s. It would be interesting to see how they compare to what Irwin is producing under that name today. I've heard there is a huge difference.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
it would be fun to try them.
@gmmeier3214 жыл бұрын
Data is king! Love the work you put in to this. Have always loved the old Stanley Everlastings. Almost have a complete set. Also the Everlastings aren’t really socket chisel, they are a socket/tang hybrid with solid steel front to back.
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
Right on. I love my set even though they are not all from the same type. I actually have one that was unusable so i cut it down the middle to show how they were made. It is a great design to have the tang run all the way up to the striking button.
@gmmeier3214 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright I have a few GE Wood chisels that were the precursor to the Stanley Everlastings. Stanley bought him out because of the superior design.
@robertweldon79094 жыл бұрын
We are cutting wood aren't we? I have a set of Buck Brothers, with metal ended plastic handles. I would never hit them with a hammer, so they have lasted a long time. I don't do real fine work, so I am not worried about super sharp, just sharp enough. I've learned about the correct way to maintain them from ya'll though, but for me this is just a bit over the top, fun to watch though My purchase rule; "buy what you can afford, not what is cool and impressive". ;-)
@WoodByWright4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great rule of thumb. got to love those old Buck Brothers chisels!