What is the BEST DPS for Salvation's Edge? (Damage Testing) | Destiny 2 The Final Shape

[@themccman]

Thank you editing team. Your sacrifice will never be forgotten…

[@elmyst9108]

What happened

[@ChaiTea17]

@@elmyst9108 They had to cut and edit many hours of footage

[@elmyst9108]

@@ChaiTea17 yeah i know that but usually I don't find this many comments sympathizing with the editors like did something happen during the stream?

[@epjpeg]

@@elmyst9108just a ongoing joke is all

[@chrisb.2028]

Yeah!...what were we talking about again?

[@devildevers]

Little did he know at the time, the dps wouldn't matter if everyone's stuck on a non-boss forever

[@Luteloots]

On the contrary....DPS ABSOLUTELY mattered...but the actual damage window is obscenely short and you have to move constantly making a LOT of options just not viable at all. Apparently the nanites from Outbreak also just straight up don't hit the boss.

[@WarlockGalore]

@@Luteloots he is talking about how most ppl stuck on the first encounter anyways. The majority of his audience isn't getting near a boss fight on contest mode

[@MrTJCM6]

@@WarlockGaloreThat or the insanity that was the 4th encounter

[@adambrown6669]

​@@WarlockGalore Sad thing is that technically the first encounter isn't that bad, it's just figuring it all out. The damage check is what will hold back teams, especially those that don't know to coordinate their loadouts and not just use whatever

[@scrawnyclownsnatch9656]

Still Hunt, Golden Gun, Edge + Ursa Furiosa + Tactor Cannon gonna be crazy. Prob around 3 mill

[@LetMeEatIt]

Tactor

[@angelousmortis8041]

Wait... Does Still Hunt's Celestial GG Shot get Banner's Weapons of Light? Because if so, woof, that's still a 40% damage buff.

[@ericx6969]

@@angelousmortis8041 5 hunters 1 titan but guard I think more damage buff and uses tractor cannon

[@606films9]

Edge? Got it

[@chillhour6155]

Only 3 mil ?

[@MyNameIsCornholio]

Celestial Still hunt + one solar holster mod + recon bait and switch apex predator is really damn good too. Rotation as follows: Throw melee for radiant Fire golden gun super Fire still hunt super Fire primary once for B&S Fire 2 rockets from apex predator The solar holster will now have reloaded still hunt back to 6 rounds. Fire all 6 at boss to refill still hunt super Fire still hunt super Back to primary, then to rockets and repeat the cycle until out of ammo or boss is dead Idk the actual dps numbers but for me they were higher than when I was using edge transit bc I never had any downtime where I reloaded. obviously it’s not applicable in all boss fights, but as long as the boss doesn’t move too much and has a easy enough to hit crit, it’s a really good solo dps rotation

[@BlueFHS]

Hmm, interesting! As someone who doesn’t have that god roll envious bait and switch edge transit, this is a good alternative! I didn’t consider using a solar holster

[@zodiactg]

Don't forget to activate Cayde's retribution before you NH GG. That way you can switch right into BnS without waste in animation time.

[@FlashesSoccer011]

​@@zodiactghe says that in the post as part of the rotation.

[@kryzys5385]

I think explosive light could be better for this rotation.

[@fotis3v480]

Does this do more than an izzy,apex swap?

[@Chip_Unlimited]

Don't forget that the ammo economy for certain weapons is a lot better than others. For example, levi breath only used half the ammo for very similar damage. This means that if the damage phase is longer than templar, levi breath has better damage. Basically all I am saying is needing to think about total damage versus burst damage; this video demonstrates burst damage, not total damage.

[@dankerbell]

this damage test is for day 1 raiders, if you're a day 1 raider, you already know this and will prepare everything

[@Chip_Unlimited]

@@dankerbell I know… it’s in the title… but I was clarifying for people who wanted to try it if there was a longer damage phase or something because that was not stated. These damage tests were all long range, quick burst damage, I was simply stating that it may not be the best for every encounter / every team.

[@hhaste]

The title is DPS, not DoT

[@majora919]

I mean yeah but if we're talking about total damage whisper is much better

[@Chip_Unlimited]

@@hhaste almost like I said that, hmmmmmmmm. Again, I am just stating it so that people who may just look at this and immediately think "okay, I'll just use the top one" have a secondary thought about what they actually need.

[@-AaronBlack-]

I can’t wait to edge my salvation 😩

[@af1199]

Ayo??💀

[@ScantyMantis989]

That's a violation

[@lamontejones9498]

Gotta grip it first🥶

[@KaneoheCeltic]

GET THIS MF OUTTA HEREEE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🫵🏿🫵🏿🫵🏿🔥

[@Ïurossa]

Ayo what, some of us love the human body ​@@af1199

[@shiroshi1760]

The only KZbinr with comprehensive guides with no fluff and practical application scenarios all backed up with expert gameplay... Keep it up

[@patriot459]

They need to just make queen breakers a special since it’s pretty close to matching most special weapons. I think it would find a nice home in its current state as a special to be a solid ranges arc option which really doesn’t have a lot options in terms of ranged arc exotics.

[@stanleyli2525]

There are more special exotics than heavy so I’m guessing that’s why they haven’t changed it

[@dankerbell]

they said they wouldn't do that for either qb or darci because they think there's too many special damage options already

[@stanleyli2525]

@@dankerbell Bungie just needs to upgrade them to Whisper level

[@benjaminwatkins429]

If that's their take then we should move Arby and the void one and make them heavy. Just up the shit out of their damage. Like make Arby hit for 80k a shot but reduce the reserves to like 12

[@toriellsimon9075]

DARCI and Queenbreaker, I still use it because the blind on hit is game changing lowkey

[@noelbedard8252]

Hazardous Propulsion's buff is classified as an enhancement buff, and seems to interact correctly with all other enhancement buffs *except* sources of Radiant. I believe all Radiant buffs (including Well) while classified as enhancement buffs, behave almost like a group in their own right so sometimes their interaction overrides or is overridden by other things where that should not be the case. I remember there were problems with Celestial golden gun not getting the correct damage buff while in a Well, this seems similar. with Well getting reworked and the buff UI changing, it's possible that some detail of how Radiant-category enhancement buffs are getting applied was changed, and because HazPro is new, their interaction was overlooked. the good news is it stacks correctly with all other buffs to my knowledge, so non-Radiant enhancements should take the highest value and it stacks correctly with Surge buffs and global debuffs.

[@FlashesSoccer011]

Golden gun/well interaction has not been fixed. It's still broken and stupid.

[@HajileMalach]

He never said it was fixed ​@@FlashesSoccer011

[@notchs0son]

@@HajileMalachhe said the may have changed things, one of the things the haven’t changed is the golden gun glitch inside a well. Meaning they didn’t overlook one buff they just didn’t solve the problem

[@Luteloots]

Bungie actually responded on Reddit and confirmed this. Hazardous Propulsion currently has it's 35% damage buff overwritten by Radiant and Well resulting in you only getting the 25% boost those provide instead of the 35% you should get. The game SHOULD be taking the higher % buff confirmed by Bungie. It also works on Grand Overture's alt fire rockets, it just didn't look like it here because of this bug. The whole Well/Radiant thing with Golden Gun is that Radiant DOES buff it while Well doesn't. In theory they should either both work or neither work. TECHNICALLY it'd make more sense for neither to work as both are supposed to only buff weapon damage and not ability damage but for whatever reason Radiant specifically buffs Golden Gun anyway.

[@FlashesSoccer011]

@@Luteloots it literally says in the golden gun super description that it's buffed by radiant. That is why radiant works on golden gun. But the radiant buff from well does not work with golden gun. Being in a well actually lowers your damage with golden gun.

[@MovisFun]

Coming here from just seeing you complete the raid. I almost forgot what energetic Aztecross looks like. Well done. I was there through a big chunk of it and I kid you not the run that did it was the final one I was going to watch that night as it was already 3:30 in my timezone. Such a crazy finale too.

[@sniperv9118]

Editing team played a large part in preparing the guardians for the Witness, thank you editing team

[@spartanhunter3003]

Love contest mode for those who can enjoy it and it should be the standard for worlds first raids but man. I do wish I could run the raid on a separate option non contest mode just to enjoy it like normal on day 1.

[@AverageJ03Gaming]

Yeah having to wait 48 hours to play on normal mode is rough.

[@1LTXF]

The amount of mistakes that Cross & Team did in the stream was abysmal but so funny. Salute to the editors. Never forgetting Dollar General Cross lol

[@kamarwashington]

Are you saying they made little to no mistakes? Abysmal seems to mean the opposite of what you’re trying to say.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Dollar General Cross? Lol

[@HajileMalach]

​@@kamarwashingtonabysmal means "extremely bad" or "very deep" So "an abysmal amount of mistakes" would roughly translate too "a large amount of mistakes/an extreme amount of mistakes" Funny how you tried to be pedantic and got it wrong

[@kamarwashington]

@@HajileMalach In this context abysmal can mean “immeasurably low” according to Merriam Webster. I wasn’t trying to be pedantic. I literally had a hard time understanding the comment, so I thought I’d offer advice. No need to come off so patronizing.

[@lSleepiel]

I am the one yall were calling Dollar General Cross... I will never forget either lol trust me

[@iaimfortheeyes]

I miss the linear fusion meta

[@dankerbell]

as a controller user, i don't

[@gravytrain9530]

Real

[@luisizsick123]

SAME that taipan was everything that season

[@TerraTheWise]

@@dankerbellAs a controller user who loved linear meta. Skill issue.

[@spuntass6434]

I didn't. Dps was just using one gun the whole time. I like the more active bait and switch rocket launcher playstyle we had last season

[@AmericaTerrapin]

21:54 who is breathing like that, holy cow that tripped me out. Had to check myself.

[@Ayto27]

The boss does.

[@depo3343]

My favorite warlock main ❤

[@jimmcmeen761]

He’s still in denial don’t tell him haha. I’m thinking he will be hunter next because of well nerf.

[@lucasmorgan4379]

😂

[@NoBloons]

Can't wait to not do contest mode of this raid because I hardly beat -20 pantheon.

[@okipullup..]

skill issue gang

[@NoBloons]

@@okipullup.. It is. I'll stick to normal raids...even though they are -5 power now. Bit stupid.

[@FiredelSol]

Pretty reasonable take tbh . Ain't nothing wrong with playing within whatever range you find the most fun

[@okipullup..]

@@NoBloons just making sure you know (I’ve never done contest mode in my life)

[@mickthick6170]

Queenbreaker is my go to for any legend content its really fun cause of how versatile it is

[@xFluffyDevilx]

Eeuw

[@hcold1272]

Better not catch you in my fire team

[@EpslionBear]

It's got built in anti-unstoppable so it isn't a complete throw

[@xFluffyDevilx]

@EpslionBear Rocket sidearms can be used for unstop this season ... Its a throw

[@TylerDixon-e1m]

Did this man just dismantle a queenbreakers and pull out a queenbreakers?

[@adamowens5377]

Hilarious intro. Thanks editing team.

[@digglertattoo5172]

I’ve been using demo rocket with song of flame and that’s putting out work

[@digglertattoo5172]

Literally no one’s mentioned it

[@HajileMalach]

​@@digglertattoo5172people have mentioned it, just not youtubers. Check Llamas super damage test and the comments are full of "can't wait to use song of flame + demo rockets"

[@GildedWarrior331]

​@@digglertattoo5172I told my clanmate that I was going back to that when I unlock it on my warlock 😂

[@tannerhighley5782]

Someone at Bungie is definitely watching the Still Hunt and Falling Guillotine testing thinking “well damn, we might’ve overtuned those.”

[@ICEMAN77gaming]

before i even start this vid as cross said it THANK YOU YOU DOING THE GREAT TRAVLERS WORK EDITING TEAM LOL

[@ghhmercydestroyer]

Thank you all who make this videos 🙏

[@matthewyuells7825]

I appreciate your professionalism.

[@brujahrahl158]

Id like to see a solar 3.0 warlock running Song of Flame built into ignitions, with Dragons Breath and a demolitionist mountain top rotation.....

[@maximus8940]

Would have liked to have seen a song of flame grenade+weapon damage. Maybe dragons breath and a solar special for extra scorch explosions…

[@serafinvalencia2618]

I'm surprised Flechette Storm wasn't tested here. Especially with the new exotic gauntlets since their damage buff isn't conditional like Synthoceps or Wormgods.

[@zdream-killerz1559]

Little did cross know….33 hours straight before he beats the raid!!!

[@damienrobinson4138]

Cross, u can get even more damage from outbreak with facet of command and facet of sollitude with a bleakwatcher turret active on Prismatic Warlock, this can be run in tandem with a viable raid build for a quick swap for a last stand with no ammo since youll still have 3 Fragment slots left after Command and Solitude

[@stalkholm5227]

That scene from The Walking Dead always makes me laugh. I needed that. Thank you, Editors.

[@chunkyrabbit1032]

6:12 the reason it's making that noise is because of spike grenades. they made it make that noise with final shape

[@IrritatedGnome]

Loving the edits.

[@jdhi5279]

TO THE EDITING TEAM: we appreciate you.

[@eri_sister_of_aerial]

Cross you're actually wrong about Grand Overture. Radiant is overriding Exodus x6 buff for Grand Overture's missile barrage. The 35% does indeed work but as it stands the bug with Well of Radiance is messing up Hazardous

[@dankerbell]

he figures that out in the video, well overrides it because it now applies radiant

[@GooeyBoyz]

Finish the video

[@eri_sister_of_aerial]

I did see it. I also tested it with the Rocket Tracers of Quicksilver Storm which do work with it but is only increasing the impact damage.

[@logantait11387]

Actually he’s not wrong, you’re just making comments on a video you didn’t bother finishing

[@steffenhill3521]

I'd like to see an ergo sum with Wolfpack with a sword with frenzy and bait an switch. It does affect yourself too which is pretty op

[@DeMo15]

Fun fact: I did Dragon’s breath with The Supremacy for solo dungeon runs last season and I learned that after 7 Supremacy shots with rewind I could shoot DB again.

[@mrthor8273]

The new update this week fixed the Hazardous Propulsion+ Well/Radiant issue.

[@endlesszing460]

Maybe the Well takes precedence because Hazardous is a stackable buff, and the check looks for the individual buff which is lower than 25% instead of the 6x one which is 35%.

[@benben7667]

I wanna see a demo rocket with the new solar warlock super

[@alexcurtis8132]

That sounds nutty, I gotta try that shit😂 demo rocket+SoF+ rocket reserve mods

[@ImJaspy]

I’ve been rocking tesselation with edge transit and osmiomancy gloves for big burst DPS, have a grenade shot already loaded then primary shot Tesselation grenade shot to bait and switch edge transit

[@stephendunbar6435]

LET THE DAMAGE TEST BEGIN!!!!!

[@Desai969]

It's funny that Cross saw the power of the Still Hunt rotation, but it was the world's first team that actually used it

[@griqs]

I think the shatter DMG being bumped actually helps agers

[@kcisthe1st]

Grand overture getting a buff with that exotic is crazy

[@Paper_Rack]

Feedback gauntlets with the sword is gonna go crazy, I’m surprised he didn’t try it

[@truehiro]

I still think that them renaming Young Wolf's Howl would have been fine for Ergo Sum. It still would have made sense for the other exotic perks it can roll with

[@blackraven1720]

If Essentialism had spirit of Nighthawk in column 1, pairing that with spirit of Star-Eater and Still Hunt would probably make hunters even more busted for boss dps to the point where GG marksman would become the hunter equivalent of Well

[@bradyfrey2941]

Caretaker sword with surrounded and relentless strike (preferably enhanced) with a bunch of solar surges WRECKS most bosses with add dense environments. The perks carry it and deal good dpa

[@dennismadrid5146]

I’m definitely going to use the new micro exotic with wardens law lucky pants. After lucky pants runs out, I will use golden gun and switch to micro. With 3 Kinetic mods, it should let me do maximum dps for both heavy and primary

[@HorizonOP]

When will we get a weapon changes testing video?

[@OnateyUros]

Why didn't you use the Vex grenade launcher? It's more passive damage It's the same as the exotic puddle thrower

[@shquankinket8068]

Should pop song of flame instead of well before using microcosm cause to get scorch and ignitions too

[@AngelFigueroa-Vega]

FOR STILL HUNT USE YOUR NORMAL SUPER FIRST!!!!! The weapon damage afterwards returns more super energy from the Still Hunt super

[@ll3811]

It probably should been better if he didnt even used the super at all, cause he didnt for the other tests (its like 650.000 inflated damage for still hunt)

[@yesman4851]

Now I'm curious if Still Hunt would be a better sniper option, rather than izanagi...

[@SleepyTylerr]

It seems so

[@theonlyotherdan6587]

It's been confirmed that hazardous gets the same damage issue that nighthawk gets in a well.

[@John_President]

I'm wondering how dragons breath does with song of flame+hellion. You end up spamming so many ignites that dragon's effectively has alh. You can swap rotation or possible shoot+super grenade and wait a second for the next rocket to load. I was able to shoot 5-6 rockets out vs a single spire final boss DPS phase. Might be a solo specific since using the grenade shortens the AOE buff duration but it's very fun and loud. Nonetheless it seems to do some amount of significant damage possibly worth at least a test

[@basskiinkellofrobins8827]

Agers could be doing more if you had that one fragment that increases shatter damage and a Stacy turret next to it to help build slow stacks faster

[@TerraTheWise]

That’s adding outside variables to the equation.

[@basskiinkellofrobins8827]

and? He said he was wanting max DPS and I'm pretty sure that sword DPS and void artifact mod DPS was adding outside variables too

[@adambrown6669]

Still hunt probably could be pretty wild with 6 hunters all with golden gun and still hunt, fire still hunt first then golden gun, then with all the orbs fire still hunt again, possibly twice if there's enough orbs. That would be quite alot of spice

[@Miditheproto]

If I can just say this really fast, for raids I use something no one doesn’t really expect. Foetracer, because of its exotic perk granting a damage boost when you damage an enemy with any ability matching the weapon’s element. And with prismatic, if I run something like, marksman, duskfield, and snare, I can have all my weapons deal bonus damage.

[@Miditheproto]

Also, have we tried Wardcliff with the rocket chestpiece?

[@STUFFfromthegooddays]

“I’m not gonna be here all night testing swords” Herald of finality would like a word with you 😂

[@bluemanjr1152]

Watching this after the raid race, its funny to think even with Celestial and Still Hunt being OP AF it still took 18 hours to complete the Raid

[@rileydport]

I don't know why people argue Star Eaters over Celestial. 1.) It has been proven that even with max stacks and three precision hits, Star Eaters is still less than the semi-recently buffed Celestial. 2.) The only reason people used them was to CHAIN golden guns with the bonus super energy on orb pickup, which they just nerfed. On top of Celestial being infinitely easier to use, making Star Eaters only useful for Gathering Storm and Blade Barrage rotations.

[@MICROKNIGHT3000]

It is so ridiculous that we do not have a damage test practice range. Just make one like a node in the tower or something what is stopping them?

[@arbiter1]

problem with some of these like whisper its not feesable for witness just due to you gotta move around a ton and you gotta watch the hands so you will be scoping out so much.

[@KapasaGamer]

You should try cataclysmic, foetracer, prismatic, radiant.

[@HumbleGuyGaming]

I was hoping cataphract and edge were about to go to round 2 on going back and forth

[@Mikebritt43]

Still hunt with a golden gun opening shot with Apex exploisve light and a solar reloader is banana's!

[@absolutelyblasted]

The opening bit 🤣🤣🤣 god speed editors

[@FYATroll]

Unironically is Taipan the best legendary dps for the last encounter? You want a void weapon to synergize with the last artifact perk that gives void weapons more damage to weakened targets. You can't use last season's LFR because you can't keep precision instrument rolling, which makes firing line the best perk option, right?

[@athenagt884]

Im waiting for someone to realize how OP Prismatic Warlock with the exotic class item with Necrotic and Star eaters is, specially with TOM. Single handedly the best warlock primary DPS out there.

[@DrBrickface]

Dragon's breath + sunsinger spam? I've been using it to absolutely melt things, but IDK if it actually competes or is just solid for lower content.

[@JD-se2eo]

I’m wondering how quick you would get caydes retribution back if you had a ursa banner Titan popping out orbs

[@dixon137]

18:50 pop golden gun then still hunt and fire both its way faster hit the headshots and activate it again

[@katalysms1]

Crown splitter could be a potential contender. If people didn't delete their void crown splitter.

[@Dreadnotus]

Agers uses a. Prismatic beam also. Proc prism first then super!

[@WeKnowTony]

What combo seems to be good for Warlock? Cant watch full vid at work lol

[@BlazeroToSixty]

Have 5 perched threadlings to start plus strand grenade reload aspect Mountain top, primary, Edge Transit, Threadling grenade for reload, edge transit, needle storm, Mountain, primary, edge transit, threadling grenade, edge transit

[@Glitch177]

Did you not throw on kinetic surges with Microcosm? I believe that works.

[@Xerkxes]

Bungie says the strongest buff takes precedence.. but I feel like they hardcode it, it's not dynamic. Every time they add a new bigger-than-well buff well overrides it until they patch it in.

[@NuminorTheFool]

Starting to think that the Lament HP gain nerf was because they knew Swords would be on deck for the raid and wanted to make sure people ran other choices.

[@adambrown6669]

How well does the ergo sum polaris lance version perform with the ember of more scorch stacks? Maybe paired with Song of flame for the active radiance and damage resistance and hellion

[@Sudden-Death]

Any updates to this for this weeks arc / stasis modifiers? Thanks gg

[@teytey4533]

i’m trying to get polarice lance with vortex frame on mine cus that can be nasty asf since the spin hits for what like 8-10 hits

[@finsenator4074]

22:30 that is pretty optimal since boss stayed in barrier dmg.

[@enigmanameless6979]

With the grand over it because the radian canceled the buff from the exotic chest

[@DeanGetYourWings]

So on Vortex frames you don't do your heavy anymore?

[@anonprada203]

I’ve been away from D2 for a while but is Thunderlord no longer in the dps conversation?

[@C.Simmo95]

because the sword is void, it makes void wolfpack rounds, does this also affect the damage with void debuff mod and surges?

[@Palayedeuhm]

Is it better to not use the heavy attack with the swords when using Wolfpack rounds?

[@trevor0078]

I just wanna mention for u hunters. USE FOETRACER WITH SWORDS. No set up required a hit from a sword automatically procs the foetracer perk which was amazing wen I did crota

[@dixon137]

death bringer is skill issue.. with the catalyst if you hit a wall 3 meters above the target all the orbs track in a tight pack with all of them hitting its one of the hardest hitting rockets

[@ItsAMeeb]

They had to nerf precision instrument so that focused fury isn't just a joke 💀

[@sabinodoi6399]

I assumed that armor damage buffs were seperated from ability damage buffs. Weird

[@CapsFan]

Isn’t there an aspect that lets you do more Solar Damage on Prismatic? I could be wrong, but I thought I saw that mentioned on another YT video.

[@dtps_champion6016]

theres a fragment that increases light ability damage to targets afflicted by stasis debuffs

[@RadiantPaladin4]

@@dtps_champion6016I think it’s all dark debuffs, not just stasis. So sever, unravel and suspend also apply

[@dtps_champion6016]

@@RadiantPaladin4 yeah mistyped thank you

[@DPantherful1]

That one is my favorite and it's cool that you start with it. Throughout the Legend Campaign, I would use Celestial Nighthawk Golden Gun with a Stasis melee or a Chill Clip weapon. Deleted any non-boss Dread enemy and was real helpful in the last fight of the final mission. Just able to insta-half-health the two bosses saved a lot of time.

[@RhynoE28]

Someone else did Eyes of tomorrow with abyss and facet of command. Curious how DPS is on that.

[@averagescruffy258]

I'm assuming he's just removing 25 percent from the total, and that's gonna give him lower numbers than it would be without the surge. Ex: 100+25%=125 125-25%=94 (approximately)

[@MGShadow1989]

I don't understand why things are being compared in their dps for such a short window when the ammo economy and damage for that ammo is different between weapons.

[@lav91687]

Can't wait to see how good or bad Truth is now

[@adrianbutanda651]

Not proc-ing whispered breathing is criminal

[@IFA1]

He procs it...read above super bar.

[@GrandmaDestiny]

Cross, could you get a chart up?