What is the best Lightweight dual sport Motorcycle and why I sold my Honda CRF250L.

[@ramonbostic]

In my experience, dual-sporters tend to be older and have done the fast riding already. The drawbacks that you mentioned, are advantages to someone in my bracket :-)

[@vaughndrew852]

Suzuki Dr 400 are coming out with fule injection now😊

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I just made a video about it . I know ...things have changed since I published that video

[@SmokinZen]

You can easily trailer a dual sport too, I believe you get more on a dual sport you can commute on it and ride it anytime you want with less maintenance. No motorcycle does it all. The convenience of opening the garage door and riding is priceless.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

You can of course trailer a dual sport, but the point is that once you get to the trailhead the dual sport is going to be severely handicapped and because off-road the miles are limited you might as well have a full Enduro because you're going to have a lot more fun

[@bellyacre1]

​@@VegasRoManiacReviewsMaybe handicapped. I trailer my XT250 to the woods. It is not as fast. But, it goes anywhere. And, can run all day on the little tank of gas. Extremely reliable. No worries about fuel pumps, radiators, or hoses. It's not the best at anything. But, can do anything I need it to do.

[@hoosiertrailrider]

You made all great points. Hitting all the variables spot on. As an old lifelong racer and Trail rider 65. I've slowed to the dual sport pace. Riding a XR650L for the previous 8 years was too top heavy. I didn't enjoy picking it up. My plated CRF250X was perfect for all around use. Recently sold the XR650L and bought a CRF450L. Way better after some changes. Not top heavy. These two bikes fit my niche perfectly. I can still ride Enduros or National Dualsports on both or Dual sport.

[@VegasRoManiac]

It's all about preference. ..

[@CrustyMac300]

I agree with your outcome in the end. I had dirtbikes growing up but couldn't own one while raising my family. Now 40 years later got back into it with a KLX230, only kept it 6 months, upgraded to a KLX300. Modified the heck out of it because I wanted the performance I remembered from my youth and I ride with dirtbikers, I wanted to do more than just keep up, I wanted to lead sometimes too. Now, going into year 2 with this, and some not so fun rides with my dirtbike buddies, I want a true dirtbike. Except I can't afford both. At 63, I'll just keep pushing this one to it's limits 😅 and mine!

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Ohh I see .. I had a old klr250 before I went in to dirt bikes , but then I went to a country where I didn't have a car so I had to buy a dual sport and I had relive everything all over again

[@nockianlifter661]

Also depends on the kind of trails available to you.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Yes, the types of a trails around your neighborhood is really important

[@domenik8339]

Definitely. When I rode trails in the desert, there were lots of 450s, 500s. I ride in WA now, where single track is barely bigger than the size of your front tire and very twicty and muddy, and you never see a bike bigger than 250.

[@gabrielkopp2036]

Yamaha did not discontinue he wr250r because of lack of sales they discontinued it because of your country's bs emissions standards and abs requirements

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Why understand your point but they did discontinue it because no not a lot of people were buying it because if they had a lot of sales on it and it would have been worth it for them to sell it. They would have either redesigned it or did the things that Honda did to the CRF or Kawasaki to the KLX

[@dirgharajshrestha]

Same fate the R6 suffered!

[@gabrielkopp2036]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews yea and everyone was expecting the same from yamaha and never happened and never will. Honda and kawasaki can't keep the 300s in stock.. one would think yamaha would play attention. But we all know yamaha doesn't care about its customers only its big donors

[@knobbytrails577]

Same outcome here at 63: street legal electric dirt bike (trials bike in fact) and trailer. Compromises are always what they are (and I've owned many of those) and it in the end it boils down to what you really want to do and what you are prepared to give up with.

[@VegasRoManiac]

Yeah that makes more sense .. I'm same as you but I have a Surron electric

[@TheToastedChannel]

As a KLX300 rider I love the trails and street combo. Agree with many of your points. Thinking of adding a CFMoTo 450 MT to the repertoire when doing more on road.

[@airadaimagery692]

I’m keeping my 300s too. I was considering the cF Moto, but I think I’m going to wait on the new mini GS which is lighter weight.

[@airadaimagery692]

I can go anywhere and do anything on my 300l Rally that I can do on my L model. Plus it had twice the range until I upgraded the tank on the L model. The extra protection hasn’t gotten in my way yet. And luckily, here in the states, we can plate dirt bikes. So I guess we have an advantage in that aspect.., But, everyone has different needs and desires. Personally, I think the GasGas with a Rally tower for wind protection is worth the money if you can afford one. Personally, I like my 300s and waiting on a Mini GS for a more road oriented bike. Things may change over time tho.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

The rally is nice but needs more power 😢

[@airadaimagery692]

@ I’m pretty confident that the big bore kit is going to satisfy that need for me, since I don’t travel anymore that 6 miles of highway on any given day anyway. I really don’t complain about not having enough power now. Since 80mph is fast enough for a dual sport to get on the highway anyway.

[@simonbeer5259]

I’ve recently bought a new 300l and for someone who isn’t into extreme off road jumps it’s perfect as I can ride wherever I want on road and if I see a trail heading of somewhere then I can take that route and go discover places I wouldn’t of seen before,and because of the soft suspension I can nail it on rutted trails no problem especially if out of the saddle 😊

[@terrarecon]

I think after listening to your video, it's important for people to understand what their riding bias is. You will prefer/like riding a specific type of bike based on your own riding style. You may then find issues riding other types of bikes just as you mention. If you are used to riding cross-country, you will possibly gravitate to an enduro easily yet find fault with dual-sports. For some people their default bias may or may not be hard to over come. Owning multiple bikes as some people do may address those issues. But, there is no one bike that can fill every type of riding, and that is something we all have to live with.

[@VegasRoManiac]

Very true! You got that right. I had multiple bikes in the garage but having multiple bikes brings a different kind of a problem because there is a decision to take which one you will pick and take with you when you go riding. And the hottest was to pick up between a two-stroke and a four-stroke that did the same thing. They were bought their bikes and one was at KTM two-stroke. The other one was a Yamaha 4-stroke and both excelled at something and they sucked at the other and the decision in the garage was horrible before the ride

[@mohawksniper79]

I rode my 83 dt125 dual sport for 30 years I loved it so much I was looking for a dt200 dual sport to buy but every time I see one by the time I get to it it's gone. I love the fact that on the way home from work I can just hit the trails no screwing around with trailers or Mixing gas

[@VegasRoManiac]

Old school bikes were different ...

[@alexfajardo8809]

Your comments make a lot of sense, thank you.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Thank you for 😊 taking time to write this comment

[@hughrobertson-payne914]

That was a great video. Pretty much explains everything I’ve been thinking about before buying a lightweight dual sport.Nice one, thanks 👍

[@zakowski4043]

Honestly the biggest factor in whether a bike makes it through a trail easily is the rider. Yes certain machines make it easier but if you can ride well and pick the right line. You can do almost anything on a dual sport that you can do on a dirt bike (big jumps aside)

[@chriskirchner5094]

The best option for a street legal dirt bike is the Ktm 350/500 excf or the Beta RRS line.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Good bikes a bit expensive , you can get a Honda and a Kawasaki for that money

[@kylepayne9657]

Unpopular opinion (probably): I’ve been riding street bikes for 35+ years and I’ve had one dirt bike when I was 17 years old. I’m 56 now and I want to get back into the dirt. The unpopular opinion I referenced is that I’m most likely going to purchase the CF Moto 450. I was leaning hard towards Honda 300L Rally after 5-6 months of research but after seeing many videos on the CF Moto I’m going to give that bike a chance.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I've seen so many good reviews on it , yes it's Chinese and it's a w piston bike. That makes it for sure less reliable than Honda, there is reliability and simplicity and when you have only one piston versus two then you have less valves lets everything, but I'm curious to see how well the Chinese were able to build that bike, now obviously it has more power and it cost the same as a CRF300l, quite tempting. I have to admit

[@chriswilson4525]

Did you forget that the KTM/Husky/GasGas/Beta 500 exists? (Okay, you mentioned them briefly, but focused on the small displacement models) Combined with a throttle tamer, I find that the 500 is perfect for the dirt while also providing sufficient power for slab I'd want to ride (not interstate, which I don't want to ride on anyway). Even the 350 of those brands has sufficient power to do anything you'd want on dirt.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Yeah those are great bikes but kot affordable and they don't have the same maintenance intervals , not true dual sports

[@chriswilson4525]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews I guess it depends upon what one can afford. They cost about the same as any pure enduro bike with similar mods. It costs less than owning two bikes - or worse, a boat, UTV or snowmobile! The service intervals can be doubled if you're just cruising - the official recommendations are for race speed. The Beta has a 30 hour service interval because there are separate reservoirs for transmission and engine oil.

[@javierpallalorden]

What I think is that every bike has its purposes, if you want to do really slow and technical tracks buy a Montesa 4RT, if you want to do medium trails you can use the Honda CRF300L and if you want to go crazy fast buy a KTM 450 EXC-F and for other fun stuf you can use a electric dirt bike.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

All good points

[@buzzmorales4339]

It’s an informative video, I currently have several bikes but my Husky 401 is pretty good for short travels under 300 miles. I would really like to get on some trails that are more then gravel roads, and also would not like the bike smashed up every time it falls over. So I enjoy the power and speed, but I’d like that weight power and speed on trails to visit very isolated places with some friends.

[@VegasRoManiac]

Husky makes a 401?

[@davidslagmulder8042]

A new kind of dual sport bikes is born with the Cfmoto 450 MT. Dispite of the weight (190kg) it's a fresh take on dual sporting for sure.

[@jeffferguson899]

I have a 2019 crf250l. I absolutly love it. Would never sell

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I had the same exact bine but with abs .is yours a CRF250LA

[@emilddburgos2724]

Drz just got updated sir

[@VegasRoManiac]

They didn't get it yet but in 2025. Apparently they will and I'm actually quite interested to see which route they go because nothing is official yet

[@terrarecon]

Yeah, he must not have seen the recent news of the new Suzuki DRZ4S for 2025 to replace the DRZ400.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I've seen the news but I haven't seen the specs it's all theoretical at this point has not been announced ​@@terrarecon

[@MrAddison79]

unfourtanly its heavier than the old drz 4oo

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

​@@MrAddison79The EFI system and the traction control and all the other stuff that it down to the bike made it heavier. I was surprised myself when I looked at the specs and I saw they switched to an aluminum frame and they got the heavier bike out of it

[@sausagesandwichSA]

Yeh I'm still riding my 2017 Rally and would consider changing but to what..DRZ4s maybe. Still enjoy the Rally.

[@VegasRoManiac]

Interesting ...

[@sebastiengreen1517]

Dual sport bike are polyvalent and nimble but the lack of trails within an hour of riding sure gets old. Like you said you're getting passed by cars and I feel like I'm just wearing my knobbies on the pavement. Also I do not feel so secure by myself so far from home in the wilderness. I'm not sure if I'd be willing to trailer anything just because the first idea is just to spend time in nature and to be on two wheels. I'm leaning a bit toward a bigger bike.

[@VegasRoManiac]

That's another way to look at it .. and I think big bikes are fun for what they can do

[@markhall3434]

I bought a cheap chinese dual sport just to get really good motorcycle skills on an indestructible/disposable bike. I don't want to scratch my XSR, dropping it for stupid crap. Anyway.. this wrecked my cornering skills.. I was going into hope and pray lean mode which seem to favor turning too far (into traffic??), then recovering. The PROBLEM IS THEIR TIRES!. This bike Lifan KPX250 had probably 70% dirt tires. Looking at the profile, they were FLAT on the bottom, making leaning non-linear. I swapped for stock street tires, and WOWie! After 1200 miles of practice, my skills are back to top notch like they were 50 years ago when I started riding on a 1963 Honda Scrambler at 16 yrs old. Fearless is how your ride well. Dirt around here is plentiful, but too many of Private Property, USCode warnings. Instead, Roads around here are all Twisty, 30 MPH which are great fun at 50/60 MPH.

[@ScotianSouthy]

I love my 2020 DR200

[@tymobyrne4451]

One bike inst enough and every stable needs a dual sport.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Very true

[@rezkidgamingyt4725]

The Wr 250f and 450 can still be plated for the street Yamaha has got the street legal kit

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I went that route once .. but the streets murdered my wr450f ... Watch my other video how to build the best dual sport

[@rezkidgamingyt4725]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews definitely I would not buy one to ride on the highways to travel long distances it’s a dirt bike at the end of the day

[@doccops]

Ah, that is just your viewpoint. I love my "dual sport" bikes, an old DR350, DRZ, KTM 500 - all cruise happily at 60-65 but I don't do motorway type roads.

[@nigelbrazier835]

Did he say Enduro cant be ridden on the road?? In Australia you can def register an XR 250 for the road. What's changed?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

In most countries you can't register off-road bike for the road . And also in some us states you are not allowed to do so ...like California and Texas .. imagine in California registering a KTM 2 stroke for the road .. the governor will literally die .. 😅😅😅

[@MrAddison79]

My xr 250 always gets me hyped! its lightwieght with good suspension and plenty of power off road. i found one plated so i can ride to the trails and ride home.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

That's the holy Grail of motorcycle man. Too bad Honda discontinued it

[@cooganbeggs4942]

Truth. I’ve got one also and it’s a great bike. I just wish it had electric start! 🥵

[@MrAddison79]

@@cooganbeggs4942 have you checked your valves lately? Also maybe richen up the Jetts. Mine starts first kick every time.

[@cooganbeggs4942]

@ yeah checked the valves, rebuilt the carb and rejetted, done all the Gordon’s mods. The kicking is only an issue when I drop it and flood it on the trail otherwise it starts up no problem. I think I might need to check my float level though because I’m getting bogging whenever I hit a jump? Thanks for the advice though much appreciated 👍

[@MrAddison79]

@cooganbeggs4942 hey I had that bogging problem also when hitting jumps. My carb was missing this plastic cap looking thing that sits on the main jet. I think it's purpose is to prevent air bubbles from being sucked into the carb. You can order the part still. Hope that helps with your bogging.

[@mikeisland7382]

If you're willing to spend the money you can build a performance dual sport into a bike that's fun on the trail and the road. Hard to justify the expense though if you're just starting out.

[@VegasRoManiac]

Actually I went that route a while back and I built a WR 450f and I made it street legal so it was a full Enduro bike that I put lights and everything on it and it was awesome but still very uncomfortable and all the problems that the dual sports have except it had huge amount of performance

[@nightrider4370]

Is this your new channel?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Unfortunately now new, but I was hacked and lost my channel so this is Vegas romaniac rising from the ashes

[@rethinking-h8k]

How about the beta alp 4.0?. Looks like a good balance. In Europe...

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Great bike but a little bit spicy as far as the price goes

[@rethinking-h8k]

@VegasRoManiacReviews it will be interesting to have a review. If it's available in your country.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Yet another A2 license heavyweight underpowered trash.

[@tshlk]

It's chinese

[@Carboneye7]

Hawk 250 for the win

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

🤣🤣

[@connor3288]

Hawk tuah

[@Boomer_Dual_Sport]

Where you been my man? DRZ is back... albeit a bit chunkier

[@jimbroen]

Dual sports have their place. They are a great first bike. They tend to tolerate tipping over without sustaining damage better than most street only machines. They're also an inexpensive way to get a machine that will tolerate a street environment where the roads aren't the best due to potholes and such. For someone who thinks they might like off road riding, they are a good way to test that theory. For someone who wants to figure out if they would like highway travel, a dual sport can also be used to test that theory. They are not good highway bikes and they are not good performance dirt bikes but they are very good in an urban environment. A lot of people come to the conclusion that they will mostly be doing urban riding and the dual sport fits that role very nicely. If you truly embrace the motorcycle lifestyle, you are unlikely to stay with your first machine for any length of time. Experiment with what what kind of riding works for you by purchasing a decent used dual sport and move on from there once you figure out what's important.

[@Anatoli50]

A KTM/ Husqvarna 500 will always be fun. Most riders will never approach the bike’s capabilities. A spare wheel set turns it into an amazing supermoto for the pavement. I have owned a few and haven’t needed to check the valves in 10,000 miles. Once you experience the total package of light weight, big power, and sophisticated suspension you can never go back to slow, heavy, and clunky. The 500’s have the best resale values of any dirt bike. Find a clean used model for 1/2 price if you must save money. Stop riding junk.

[@loopeyshooter503]

Silly talk from a novice rider.

[@Anatoli50]

@ enjoy your moped squid

[@terrarecon]

10:00 I think you might want to take a trip over to the Suzuki website and see what's brewing for the DRZ for 2025 because your statement about a lack of updates is outdated now.

[@MrAddison79]

so they threw in fuel injection and raised the weight of the bike??? doesnt seem like much of an upgrade. i do like the new head light though.

[@jarrod1687]

Kyb suspension, fuel injection, updated looks. Huge improvements

[@ewganhoff]

You should consider yourself very lucky! Here in Scotland we have thousands of miles of dirt roads and trails but they are all illegal to ride/drive with a motor vehicle😢 pretty much 100% of our wilderness is owned by rich estate owners or government agencies like the forestry commission and the do not allow motor vehicles.

[@VegasRoManiac]

Iv'e heard that in Germany also , that's why Europeans think Romania is an Enduro paradise but coming from the USA , here we are truly FREE

[@netalantan4609]

Thats why you need a 1290 r

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Super lightweight 😅

[@JCF69700--]

A new DR 400 will arrive in 2025, and quite as light as your CR-F are the (expensives) 693 cm3 "enduro" KTM/HVA/GASGAS

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Yeah, I'm a little bit excited about the 2025 Dr. Z4s but it's still a very heavy bike and I think it's going to be expensive

[@shavedape]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews It is EFI too and has switchable ABS which all may be where the added weight comes from. Looks nicer too.

[@kawasukiyamahonda]

I have a Suzuki DR650. 80/85mph on the highway. Yep, it's heavy (369lbs), but it's still lighter than a stupid KLR650, and looks waaaaaaaaay cooler😁

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Dr650 is the only bike I never had because they're rare to find and expensive to buy. I never really liked the fact that it's air cooled and that's a big problem if you live in Vegas because things get really hot over here but otherwise an awesome bike

[@MrAddison79]

they are surprisingly good off road also. gotta love the dr 650

[@kawasukiyamahonda]

@VegasRoManiacReviews Technically, the DR650 is air and oil cooled. It circulates oil to a radiator.

[@kawasukiyamahonda]

@@MrAddison79 Very easy to balance at low speed. Also, an easy and effective highway stability mod is to replace the fat OEM front fender with a skinny motocross fender.

[@kingkong81icloud]

Get a 2 stroke Yamaha DT125R or 200 or KDX or KMX I have had them all the old school enduro, I had a Honda MTX as well , the Yamaha DT125R was the best I had 4 of the , I have had a YZ 250 but I would rather have a DTR or WR 2 stroke

[@cooganbeggs4942]

Bro I hate to be “that guy” but you need to take a wider line on the corners when you’re riding on the road. All it takes is someone in a car drifting over the line coming the other way and you’re a grease spot

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I agree with you. That's one of the reasons that I sold the bike and I'm going to drive a dirt bike in the back of a truck or a car to the trailheads because it was just too risky to ride a motorcycle on the road

[@cooganbeggs4942]

@ totally agree! I live pretty close to where I ride off road and the trip to the trails sucks! It’s so dangerous on the roads and the wind and noise is a nightmare. Once I’m there it’s great but I hate riding on the road. You literally never know what someone in a car or truck could do, plus in my country (Australia) we have all kinds of wildlife waiting to jump out in front of you!

[@VegasRoManiac]

Oh man , if you fall on a snake .. or a spider gets in your helmet you are screwed .. I always wanted to ask do you guys have the handlebars on the right side of the bike there .. here is on the left 🤣🤣🤣

[@cooganbeggs4942]

@ true story I actually ran over a snake 2 days ago on my practice track. It was completely by accident and I didn’t mean to but unfortunately I couldn’t avoid him in time. Funny enough it was on a corner that I crashed 4 times on the day before in exactly the same spot. BTW it was a tiger snake - the 4th deadliest snake in the world.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

​@@cooganbeggs4942oh man , I put my foot down next to a rattle snake once . I'm still thankful I'm alive today

[@billcotton1551]

It's all a compromise with the dual sports.

[@VegasRoManiac]

ain't that true !?

[@torso99]

why do lightweight motorcycle have less topspeed then modified mopeds? somethings are not adding up here... it is a gearing issue with moronic spreads of long low gear and short high gears?

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Great points. I wondered about the same thing myself. It's a combination in between knobby tires, heavier bike, wind resistance, your riding position, friction off your wheels and the terrain that you write on that makes dirt bikes in the same CC capacity slower than some of the scooters. But then you go off-road and the scooters will be completely useless

[@torso99]

@@VegasRoManiacReviews true... but why is the front fender not more ergonomic... place is near the tire it does 2 things.. actualy functional mud protection is 1

[@zaedshahinrawan]

You have the wrong bike!…buy a DRZ400…and let us know what you think.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

I headed the RZ400. It was a really good bike. It was a wheelie machine but I was still not satisfied so when I got a Hyundai hoped that is going to be a little bit more special and it wasn't

[@joshzaring]

Both KLX 230 (no more 250 since I think 2019) and KLX 300 do have ABS options and are fuel injected. 2025 Suzuki is fuel injected as well. Had to check the date of this video because your details were so out of whack. Maybe check manufacturers websites before preparing the script of the video.

[@VegasRoManiac]

The script was written a while back this video is a repost since my channel was hacked, and I had to start from scratch ... but in the future videos I promise i willbe more diligent regarding info and yes 2024 klx300 can be purchased with abs

[@Urban.Broccoli]

You're just getting older 😎

[@7nash974]

bottom line after all that is you just don't like dual sport riding...wasted my time...your title was misleading

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Sorry I can't give your time back, but I apologize for the inconvenience, some people did find the video useful

[@ih8momjokes1]

they just udpdated it wtf is this video

[@VegasRoManiac]

They didn't update the 2025 yet. We don't know the specs. Also the DRZ might be a flop in the first couple of years. Honda had the same issue coming with their CRF250L and until they modify it to the CRF300l and change the transmission and a couple of things around the motor and the frame. It was too heavy and it was gear and wrong. So if the drz didn't get it right and until we're going to know all the official specs, you can't say that?

[@donniedirt4063]

​@VegasRoManiac all the specs are on Suzuki's website, just no price.

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Yeah I've noticed since I posted the comment ​@@donniedirt4063

[@IntasarnW]

Your information is so outdated.😅

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

Why because the drz4s just got announced ?

[@MotoCampAdv]

Are you living under a rock?

[@VegasRoManiac]

Yes .. stop shaming me

[@MotoCampAdv]

@VegasRoManiac lol I don't blame you

[@honestlion17]

I don't have a windshield on any of my motorcycles. Never have never will. If I want to look through a windshield, I'll drive my car. The speed limit in the US is

[@VegasRoManiacReviews]

After 4 hours with no windshield at 70 mph you gonna hate your motorcycle

[@honestlion17]

@VegasRoManiacReviews Crazy how you assume. I have ridden thousands of hours on every kind of motorcycle over the past 50 years without a windshield. This has never been a problem for me. You choose to ride with a windshield I don't, that's all.

[@kannermw]

​@@andersd8956No helmet, no matter how good will compare to decent windscreen for wind noise reduction. Unless you wear ear plugs you will experience significant hearing loss over time. I listen to music with helmet mounted speakers and ride sport touring bike. I also live in upper midwest where it is either hot and windy or cold and windy with short season. The windscreen and fairing significantly extend my season. I have 200 mile loop with sections having speeds over 70 mph without wind protection would be much more fatiguing. A proper windscreen does not have to be above line of sight. If you are serious rider you take chances with weather where rain is possible and a windscreen is lifesaver in a deluge. I used to own DR650 and it sucked after about 2 hours of wind blast on your chest and head.

[@kannermw]

@andersd8956 That is an absolute lie. Only poorly designed windscreens have that effect but it also depends on their height relative to rider. I only rode dual sports up until getting first true street bike in 2013. My DR650 got poorer fuel economy then my current 2022 Versys 1000? The wind drag of a bike with fairings and windscreen is far less than without. Why do you think sport bikes have fairings? Riding the DR was annoying because wind would always force legs to open up and air blast on my chest . The only way I would ever own naked bike is if I had to ride in very hot climate.

[@honestlion17]

@andersd8956 You are spot on if you do any research and have ridden for a number of years on every kind of motorcycle as I have.The wind buffeting comes directly from air, hitting the forks, no wind shield will stop this, sometimes they make it worse. When your chest and head are in clean air, it's as smooth as silk. I currently have the following Honda Super Cub with factory fairing/leg protection with zero buffeting at speed. 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 with zero buffeting at speed. 2023 BMW R18 with slight buffeting but nothing I can't live with.