What Is The BEST WAY To Run BACKING TRACKS? Methods/Setup/Pros&Cons

[@timsellsted521]

Super helpful. I'm just getting started with using backing tracks in our band.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Great to hear!

[@pdxfun4888]

I was a solo act and made my own tracks for a cover act. Didnt have digital then. 1st used cassettes, then minidisk and DAT TAPES. I usually just used the input in the mixer and mixed from the stage.

[@robfriedrich2822]

I use a Ketron module, it can play 6 channel wav files, tracks 1 and 2 are grouped to stereo, tracks 3 to 6 are mono, 6 can be routed to aux out, so been used as click/ cue. You can adjust volume for 5 parts.

[@HasseC]

Your channel is a gem!! You make complicated stuff simple - and that's rare! Keep it up!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I appreciate that!

[@PlanetPunk]

Exactly, very rare,

[@MegaMAWG]

Scott, love your stuff. I also love and use Stage Traxx but now I'm adding in Multitracker and, thanks to a very cool way to trigger Multitracker via Stage Traxx, I'm getting the best of both. The unlimited tracking of Multitracker and the lyrics and playlist set up of Stage Traxx. I'm still overhauling my show to accomplish this (daunting but in the end, I think, worth it) but so far I like the combo of the two. Keep up the great vids, I expand, or at least refresh, my knowledge with each one.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh nice!! Yeah that’s a great combination 🤘🤘

[@hosdrummer6735]

Scott, your videos and presentations are always top notch. Thank you very much for providing such a detailed dive into the various topics you cover. The info is invaluable.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you :) I appreciate that! I’m glad to hear that, because I did 11 shows in 10 days in a row this last week…. So I was worried this one wasn’t going to be up to par 😅 So I appreciate it especially on this video!

[@thecoastCoverband]

Hi Scott thanks for all your videos if I use the direct box and the backing goes to front of house that is in mono ? No stereo backing Gr.Ness

[@ScottUhlMusic]

If you use that first method, it’s mono. To get stereo you’ll need multitracking

[@66fitton]

Very cool! Well explained. One of the reasons I love my X32 so much is that it IS an interface as well as the FOH desk. I can set it up to receive any number of channels from the card (computer) and mix them in as regular channels like they were live. With 16 xlr outs I can keep IEM's stereo if desired. And for anyone knocking the X32 for it's pre's, just use the DL32 and your using the Midas pre's that are in it. For the money, you can't beat that setup. Cheers

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup! I do the same thing now and I love it

[@Damo_Drummer]

Great video, Scott! 19:01 I can talk with some experience regarding the small amount of bleed/crosstalk some mentioned between audio and click channels. This was especially common with the Roland SPD-S, which many drummers used (prior to newer versions) to run their backing tracks. By default, when samples were recorded into to the SPD-S, an 'ambience' effect was automatically applied. This could be turned off in the menu setting, but it was ON by default and it stumped a LOT of people. As you can guess, the 'ambience' was achieved by bleeding a little left into the right channel and vice versa. A nice effect to be sure, but an absolute nightmare when your aim was for a clean separation of channels. Hope this helps!

[@Necropheliac]

Thanks for the tutorial. I like hearing about different ways of doing stuff.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for watching 🤘

[@chrisroberts8081]

Have to say Scott these tutorials have been a mind of information. They have helped me a lot prepare my own backing tracks to play along with. Thank you

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Great to hear! 🤘

[@chrisroberts8081]

@@ScottUhlMusic Hey Scott, I have used your method for doing my backing tracks on Stage Traxx. I still need to get my own method. One question I have though Is as I don't have a monitor speaker and Using the IEM . I can't hear myself at all now. Unless I have set this up wrong. Any advice would be great or if you have done a video about this. If you could point me in the right direction that would be great. Tanks Chris

[@JonVokal]

I've been scouring the internet for the best single file click track setup option, this was by far and away the easiest and most budget conscious setup, and explained the best as well. Thanks a ton.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad it helped!

[@ronaldbunk9007]

Very nice. I use a 7.1 soundcard. And have the front of house on front channel in stereo. And the click and or other on the other channels.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh nice!

[@emersontanakamotion]

Great video! the hybrid method is the best and easier regarding control and less cables...I use Prime with separated stems but use the Y cable (click/tracks) going out of the iPad...

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! I’m glad Prime can do that too 🤘

[@frankadams4586]

You do a really great job of presenting this information. The Pros and Cons info alone is very helpful. My wife and I have a duo and we use backing tracks on some of our tunes - mainly for private gigs when some party tunes are called for. I've always used the single-track method - click on the left and audio on the right. We mix from the stage. Whenever we've done larger shows involving a sound company, I hand the guy two lines. Sorry, but many sound people are not good and can hurt you. Giving them two lines is darn near foolproof. Here's the MAIN reason I do a single track: Our gig requires a lot of concentration. I'm singing, playing, calling songs on the fly, dealing with the wedding coordinator, talking to the father of the bride, making sure the timeline is followed and much more. There's no way I could deal with mixing multiple tracks and lastly, I'm 100% convinced the audience could not tell the difference. Most of the rooms we play in were never designed to have live music - hotels, country clubs, vineyards, etc. I want it to sound as good as possible but I would never have the time to invest the time into doing multitrack mixes for our tracks - there's no space in my life for dealing with all of that. I mix our tracks in Protools and with new backing tracks I may have to go back and do another mix or two to get balances right, but that's a quick process. CROSS TALK - I've found that whenever I had a cross-talk issue, it was usually something like the click going through an Aux track - like for reverb. I use minimal effects now for our tracks for that reason and also because with these funky rooms we play in sometimes, the last thing you need is reverb in a room with a bad echo or slapback. I can add a touch of reverb from the board in a dry room but I can't take reverb off if it's on the track. Anyway, great info Scott and thanks for investing the time to explain it all clearly. Much appreciated.

[@oldbladderhorn]

excellent bit of information

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 😊

[@johnstraley9057]

Great video, Scott. I came away learning more than anticipated. We run tracks using the single file method from an iPad using Sound Cue, and also keep a backup iPad using Stage Traxx3. Started with WAV files and eventually settled on using the higher resolution MP3 format. Both the drummer and myself (bassist) get the click so that if the drummer misses the count-in, I can cue the band on the count. The other band mates aren't cool with hearing the click track in their in-ears.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! And yeah, singers in particular struggle with click in ears at first. But all the singers I play with now are used to it. I love playing to click live personally

[@bcrogers2318]

I can’t find SoundCue in the App Store. Is it still available?

[@johnstraley9057]

I could not find it some years after I downloaded it. For my back-up iPad I went with Stage Traxx3. It has some interesting features over SoundCue. Sound Cue IMO presents itself in a more straight forward manner and is simple to use. Otherwise Stage Traxx3 will get the job done.

[@bcrogers2318]

@@johnstraley9057 thanks for the info!! Looks like I’ll be going with stage Traxx 3 then!

[@m11sd]

Hey Scott! Your videos have really helped propel me and my live music gear and techniques. Thanks for all your videos! I wanted to share How I currently run backing tracks. I use an iPad and Stage Traxx, connect iPad up to my XR18 via USB and route audio to each of the channels using USB input on the channels instead of the XLR inputs. I also pass through my StageTraxx midi commands through the USB input to the MIDI out of the mixer into my Kemper. A small con of XR18 midi pass through is it disable midi support for the XR18 but pros outweigh cons for me currently! TLDR; My Channels 5-8 are my bass, synth, backing vox and eDrums being fed directly from iPad to mixer USB input.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! That sounds very similar to the way I do it with my 90s cover band 🤘🤘

[@PlanetPunk]

Thanx againScott for not spending the most important part of the video (The beggining) obsessing about the algorythm, liking, pressing the bell icon and commenting before you have even had a glimpse of the content. I learned a few things within those precious moment others waste banging on about their sponsers. Thank you, I fully recomend your channel and look forward to learning more here..

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! I appreciate that. And yeah, gotta get straight to it at the beginning. It’s important!

[@byroncjohnston1]

THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge with us!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@G-Money3563]

Hi Scott! I love your videos, especially your ability to communicate clearly and simply. I am in the middle of switching from using Loop Community to Stage Traxx, and your videos have been invaluable! I am using tracks for classic and 90s rock covers with full band and duo, and a Linkin Park tribute called Hybrid Theory in north Texas. I started out using MainStage which was great but as I play guitar, keys, and run tracks I needed to simplify. Im loving Stage Traxx so far. Thanks again!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice man! Awesome 🤘 glad you’ve found the channel helpful!

[@onerom_evad]

HEY SCOTT,,, correction !! @6:20 refering to your stereo input point ,, they would both actually go to your left output , TIP is universally connected to "LEFT" . . . . unless you are wearing your headphones backwards then yes you are correct, one would hear the click on the right EAR and the backing track on the left.....unless you wired up your PA system backwards then we would be back from were we started this comment. HAHAHA , just messing with ya! Cheers from a LOW Voltage sound installer in Los Angeles CA!

[@mario23sb]

I love your videos so much. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 😊

[@larrycavallucci3258]

Howdy. Doing a 2-set solo gig the end of this month ---just my vox and an AG doing covers, but for the fist time, I'm thinking about using backing tracks for 4 original songs, 2 per set, and running them off a mobile devise, probably my mini-laptop, where I have my DAW, Studio One PRO. I already created the backing tracks as they have a module for that. AND I will run it through my Mackie profx10 v3 mixer. Now just have to figure out how to wire the laptop into the mixer board. I guess maybe I should read the Mackie manual !

[@toddharris3346]

Thanks! I’m amazed how many of your videos I come back to over and over as reference. Please keep it up and thanks

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks man! I sincerely appreciate that, that’s really generous of you! 🤘🤘🤘 glad you’ve enjoyed the channel!

[@toneranger]

Excellent informative stuff as usual Scott, thanks!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks again for watching!

[@AlexVonCrank]

New favourite channel right here. This guy is reading mind!!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks Alex 🤘

[@johnketchum6331]

Incredible walk-through for someone ready to take this step. You are patient and thorough. Seems like you also have videos for those who aren't yet ready to absorb all the jargon just yet but this hit perfectly at the right place and time for me. For other lurkers: I'm the kind of lurker who doesn't go out of the way (sorry not sorry) to comment unless I feel 1) I should warn others for the sake of humanity to avoid a bad experience or 2) guilty to have accessed new knowledge which clearly I didn't deserve. This video is the latter. I subscribed and liked so hopefully those two actions contribute to advertisers footing the bill for this guy. 10/10. Will watch again.🙌

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for the sub and like! 🤘🤘🤘

[@johnketchum6331]

@@ScottUhlMusic Annnnd...you're responsive AF. Cheers to something so rare yet so valuable, brother 🍻

[@VoidStepx]

a lot of times, when bleed from click/cues makes it into the backing tracks (with the single file method), it's because we either didn't pan the respective tracks 100% to both sides, OR we accidentally left some reverb or something on the master channel when creating the backing tracks... not sure if this may be what some people are experiencing with this issue, but we specifically had some bleed from the click because we left a reverb on the master when setting up tracks on a few songs.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah that’s what I’ve found. Often times it’s some sort of stereo fx or something 👍

[@malcolmharris5277]

Great video, Scott. I'm in the throes of setting up a live rig - I play piano and guitar (one at a time!) to minus-one tracks and have never done this before. As a guy in his 60s, I'm finding the sheer choice of gear overwhelming, as I've always just used complete backing tracks run straight from the Macbook to the PA alongside the vocal mic, karaoke fashion. I found the video accessible and easy to understand, so have liked and subscribed. It's early days in getting performance-ready as you have steered me back to the track set up in regard to a solution for not having the click track go FOH - great tip there! I'll be looking at your other vids now. Great job - thanks again.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! Glad you found it helpful

Oh my god, your whole channel is so much help for a down to earth band, I really can’t emphasise that! Thank you! I watched a lot of your earlier videos and most of the affiliate links doesn’t work now, I wish you could change them for living links for you to get what you earned.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! Do you know which links aren’t working? Thats unfortunate that some of them hadn’t, as this video isn’t that old… thanks for the heads up! And even if you use the links to GET to the website, if you still buy something after using my links to get to the website, I’ll still get credit :)

Oh, no, I was talking about other links in your older videos - I am binge watching all of them. But that is nice and reassuring if it works even when you use the link to get there! I surely will use them when the time comes :) Thanks a lot for your channel again!

Can you suggest maybe a channel or a video where I can get to know the cheapest things I would need to start a youtube channel and how to do editing and things like that? I am considering that I would start a channel and start to show everything that I am buying, how I am starting to set them up for my new metal band. I am a guitar player songwriter by the way. I couldn’t find hungarian videos about the things I will buy and I think it would be help for someone to show the start of my journey in hungarian.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I don’t know the best place to start for video editing, but one of my favorite channels is DylanJohnDickerson for Final Cut editing tips

[@jcshirke]

You are my hero, man. I cannot thank you enough!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🤘🤘🤘

[@slidepiece]

Thanks for all your help and always answering questions, you've really demystified a lot of this stuff and got me up and running quickly. Much appreciated! Cheers

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks man! I appreciate it! I’m glad you found the video so helpful 🤘

[@keokiheller4351]

Dang it Scott has the best vids on every topic he does!!!💪🏽😎🏝️

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 😊

[@davidthomas9960]

Hey Scott, what’s the benefit of using the DI box as opposed to just going audio output from the iPad into a mono XLR splitter?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

You don’t need the DI box. But if you are sending the signal to FOH or longer cable runs, direct boxes are almost usually the way to go 👍 I need to do a video on “do you need a direct box” because I get that question often

[@davidthomas9960]

@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the answer, Scott, that’s all good to know

[@reinaldomaia9431]

Lots of helpfull info, thanks a lot

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@thegroupmusic147]

can you run the click/cue track and the front of house mix into a small mixer and then go to your in ear monitoring so you can hear both?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup you can do that if you don’t have your own split/control over your ears. I’ve done that for some travel gigs

[@thegroupmusic147]

could you do the same thing with a dual DI box?

[@themikefasano]

Excellent information as usual. Thank you! 👊🏻🥁🤘🏻

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@DigitalRelay]

I'm using a hybrid method - multitrack backing tracks on an iPad in StageTraxx 3, but I'm only using the headphone out. Tracks on left, click/cues on right. With multitracks, I can mute or unmute as needed without needing different version of backing track files. This way if I'm practicing, I've got drums, bass and all backing tracks on. If I'm with a full band, I can mute drums and bass. If I have a drummer, but no bass player, mute drums, but unmute bass. This also gives me the flexibility to add an audio interface down the road. EDIT - I see you covered this at the end of the video.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup! Such a great way to do it 🤘🤘

[@417ah7]

Scott, you make the BEST informative videos. Thanks for all your hard work. You and Electric Viking are my KZbin go-tos. My new Line6 HX Stomp is no longer a mystery thanks to you.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! I appreciate that 😊🤘

[@robertb.bricker1248]

Great stuff!! Thank you!! Regarding the crosstalk, I had the same issue. My tracks are built on Garage Band, Mastered on AudioMaster App. In Garageband, there is a ECHO and REVERB that applies globally, so what happens is any of the LEFT panned tracks with effect added will end up bleeding the effect onto the RIGHT with the click. In closing, check the effects routing.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yes that’s a great point!

[@maxp77]

​@@ScottUhlMusichi, found on PC and smartphone that just disabling dolby effect will fix the crosstalk

[@Riffman42]

If you didn't want the sound guy to be able to remix your tracks, you can always mix them on your XR and send them to an aux for FOH. And that was a great tip on how you switch from multi track to single! Great stuff, as always.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That’s actually a great idea!

[@nicoeleich]

man... this info is gold.. thanks so much

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Mooseboy08]

Excellent as usual, Scott! My tried-and-true way is doing the single-file solution, but I always like to get your take on this stuff, just to see if there's anything I'm not thinking of.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah man, that corporate band has been doing it that way for like a decade. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!

[@giacomocagnetti2529]

Hi, first of all I wanted to congratulate you on your videos.... Really interesting, well done and educational. My need is for live use with my band. 20 years ago I was using a pc with a m audio firewire 410 with which I used to manage stereo backing tracks, drummer clicks + vst instruments played live, all driven by cubase. Now it's been 20 years (in which I've been away from gigs) and I'm undecided on what to buy. I have 3 macbook pro's at home so I could use one of them for audio. I don't need to record: I just want to be able to manage backing tracks and simultaneously play vst instruments live (using main stage or gig performer or something... I'll have to look into that too). So I'll need at least 4 outputs (using the backing tracks in mono on one channel and the click on another channel + 2 stereo channels for vst). The idea is to get a soundcard that I can then also use in the future if I decide to switch to ipad (to lighten up the equipment). I also need to connect at least two keyboards via midi, and this I could do by adding a usb hub. I also need traditional midi inputs because I have an old keyboard that doesn't send control changes via USB but only via the midi outputs (although I could probably use a midi to USB cable). Currently what sound cards do you feel like recommending for the use I need? Thanks in advance

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And if you get one of the newer MacBook pros you should be fine with doing a few outputs and VSTs for sure. I don’t know what the exact requirements are, but the new ones are really powerful. I run my whole show off an old MacBook currently.

[@giacomocagnetti2529]

@@ScottUhlMusic which audio interfaces would you suggest to handle vst and backing tracks?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

It’s not the audio interface, it’s the computer that is important. For an interface, just make sure it has the number of inputs and outputs you need

[@cellovid]

I like the idea of multitrack playback because it means that you can get stereo in the main speakers, which may be a plus for a small setup. It occurred to me that the digital mixers, like the behringer xr16, are also audio interfaces… I wonder if the xr16 can be connected to a tablet and route the output of stage traxx to the desired mixer outputs, eg the main outs (for tracks) and aux out (for click/cue to in-ear….

[@ScottUhlMusic]

The 16 and 12 cannot, but the 18 and 32 can. I do that all the time 👍

[@cellovid]

@@ScottUhlMusic…thanks Scott! That would mean that by purchasing the correct mixer, I can avoid buying a separate audio interface…. At that point, I would be running stage traxx on my 12.9” IPad Pro, but I wouldn’t want to have it running the mixer as well… would need a device to run the mixer controller… any suggestions?

[@frankieamado]

I use a Klark Teknik DN9630 and route tracks through my AES50 B. It’s very portable and gives you way more channels than the Trackrig. You can route up to 32 in/ 48 out

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh nice! That thing is awesome! I might have to get that for when I do tracks with the X32. A bit pricy, but thanks for bringing it to my attention!

[@frankieamado]

@@ScottUhlMusic you can also use it in the reverse for recording!

[@jssforever]

This is awesome. Thanks bro!

[@TiffanyPRS]

Thanks Scott!!! You are such a cool dude.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Awwwww shucks 🥹 Thanks Tiffany. You ready to be on an episode??

[@TiffanyPRS]

@@ScottUhlMusic sure am! :) I’d be honored!!!!

[@bscheirman]

You’re right about mp3 quality, but there is a slight cpu advantage to use PCM files like wav, there’s nothing for the cpu to decode, it’s all just streaming through the audio subsystem. The overhead is slight, but remember that you have 5-6 tracks, so you multiply this overhead. Still maybe not noticeable it your iPad could handle many more streams simultaneously in PCM than compressed audio.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh interesting…. I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing man. I appreciate it 🤘

[@MichaelRayBirchfield]

Maybe this is the wrong place to ask this question. First off, Scott love the videos and I’m definitely going to be using your services soon. I am an old schooler of sorts. Had a full band back in the 90s country days. Went country gospel for a few year and backing tracks were accepted well in that genre. Question is, how is backing tracks received in secular music? I’m scared to go at it without a band but a band is darn hard to deal with. Im in my 50s now and just don’t have that patience anymore. I want to do a tribute act 90s country tribute. Sorry for the long text . Talk soon!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks Michael! In regards to “how is it perceived” you will NEVER make every single person happy in the audience. Ever. Musicians especially can be super judgy. You’ll always find someone who wants to hear bluegrass when you are clearly playing metal. You’ll always have some musician who is mad that I don’t have a tube amp on stage. Just do what works best for your band. I can say as someone who plays almost exclusively with tracks, 99.9% of the audience doesn’t care.

[@MichaelRayBirchfield]

Thanks for the reply sir. Really appreciate it.

[@Viks021]

Just found this channel and it's great. I'm thinking about adopting backing tracks+click with IEM. With Windows platform (laptop/tablet) I have configured simple 5.1 USB sound card as 6-channel output interface instead of Track Rig. That way I can have stereo backing track + click/cues separated for PA (front L/R output) and IEM (center/bass output) mapped from a single Cakewalk project. Tnx!

[@jajsound]

Once Again, Great Job !

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 🙏

[@ThatBradGuyTV]

Hey Scott sorry if this has been asked already Ive scrolled as much as I can scroll ha ha If the IPAD only has the lightning port, no audio jack will those apple lightning to headphone jack adaptors work just as well?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup 👍 definitely!

[@Xordinarydrummer]

I’m extremely new to this (haven’t use backing tracks yet) and I definitely leaning towards the 1 file system. My question is: How do you guys setup to hear the rest of your band?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I personally use an in ear monitor system, but you can also use wedges if just the drummer gets the click and everyone else gets the tracks

[@ContemporaryFingerstyleGuitar]

Thanks, Scott! Really helpful insights.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for watching!

[@JDavilaDavilaDVP_Productions]

Thanks for the video! Have a great day.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks, you too!

[@debbiegrandlodge7901]

Always super informative!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@Steve-xl1en]

this is an amazing channel. I am a career old school pianist/keyboardist and have been recently asked to play in a duo but asked to run tracks, which I have never done before. So your channel has been amazing. I have a dumb question. Being a pianist I get asked for requests all the time. Most of the time I know them, if I don't I can work fudge through them by whacking chords/lyrics up on my iphone (great for tips) Would you ever do a request if you dont have the track available, eg. just acoustically? I was thinking of even just having a track with a kick drum as I can cover the bass, chords on piano and vocals!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah we’ve done that before for sure 👍 we get as far as we can anyways. It usually goes well if people want to hear it and they often sing along with it. Glad the channel has been so helpful 🤘

[@DavidMacVicar]

I use an XR18. What I do is export tracks from Logic and add them to channels within MainStage. Click, Cues, and FOH track sounds using the playback plugin on each channel in the song in MainStage. Then with XR18 connected to computer as an audio interface I set the inputs to USB. Then I can control the individual tracks in the XR18 for separate musician mixes. Etc. Aux 6 out is for the FOH tracks. Then I use MainStage to run the show and move between songs.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Great setup 🤘

[@DavidMacVicar]

@@ScottUhlMusic thank you. Watching your other videos on doing the same thing with an iPad and app is making me rethink whether the laptop is overkill or not. I guess at the end of the day they’re both performing the same functions. I am using main stage, whereas you are using stage traxx on the iPad. Am I not considering some thing?

[@deekod1967]

Absolutely brilliant vid thank you 🙏

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@PeterHyvonen]

the cross talk is usually a problem with karaoke versions download. If you have it building a track while still downloading another one sometimes it will get cross talk. Also some mp3 players will cache a version so say you download the drums and click together by mistake and open it in apple music, then write over that file with just the drums, you will still hear the drums and click until you clear the apple music cache directory.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I’m not sure the issue is with karaoke version, I think it’s often times more people adding plug ins to the channels when mixing. I want to look into it more

[@TheEnd-vn9rb]

You are awesome man!

[@johnmcchavs]

As usual, a very interesting video to see what your gigging methods are. We are free to take what we find useful for our own gigs... knowledge has this wonderful propriety : you still have it once you gave it to others ;)

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 😊

[@michaelpittoggi1903]

Very helpful thanks your a true pro!❤

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you 🙏

[@ionbond6213]

Great channel! Thanks for the tips. My question...What size ipad storage would you recommend buying if I wanted to put all my tracks on it, taking into consideration that I'm constantly creating and adding more track files.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And at least 64g to be safe. Use 320 mp3s to save on space 👍

[@GiaMeziridis]

Question: Would USB interface of the TrackRig stream via USB to the Blackmagic app for simultaneous Video/Audio recording? Thanx

[@sergiospiezia1561]

Hey Scott, awesome video once again! I started using Multitracker once I saw your video, but would really love to use Stage Traxx 3 because it offers way more features I can use. The only reason I haven't is because ST3 doesn't offer the option to create tracks with a click (like Multitracker does). This is important for my band because we only use backing tracks on about 5 songs, the rest we use the click to keep the in check as far as the tempo goes. Anyway sorry for venting 😅, just hope ST3 adds in that feature soon. It would really be a major plus! Thanks again!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Ah gotcha, that makes sense. I just export my own click because I like to do double time changes and stuff like that personally

[@jcabelair7749]

It's actually pretty simple to create/export a click track. I do it in Reaper but I'm sure all the other Draws can do this: Set your Daw metronome how you like it then route it to an empty track that is set to record. Export that track as {click.mp3} along with your other stems. Easy Peasy, and maybe Scott can include that in a vid if he hasn't already--I'm still working my way thru all of them 😂

[@thecentralscrutinizerr]

Just so you all know, you can snag a Zoom R24 which is a very compact 24 track portable studio and load all your tracks into any of the 24 tracks. It also has 8 track simultaneous record. It also has onboard master effects, onboard guitar effects, onboard vocal effects, and a ton on insert effects for each track. And check this out, it's also battery powered option so you don't have to use a power supply unless you want to. I just use rechargeable batteries (with and extra charged set) and leave the wall wart in the bag. You can save songs as setlists on it, you can sing through it, and you can play guitar through it without having to tote around an amp, again unless you want to. It also remembers all your settings when you turn it off or switch to another song, meaning all the reverbs, insert effects, mastering effects, fader levels, pans, eqs etc are saved and reloaded with their parameters each time you select the song. It's literally no bigger than a laptop in width and half the depth. Its very lightweight and can easily fit in a backpack. It only takes 10 seconds to plug it into a PA. And here's the real kicker. You can get one for around $200 bucks. That's a very large bang for your buck and you don't need a mixer because it IS a mixer. It's PERFECT for backing tracks. All you need is PA. You can literally set it up on the tailgate of a pickup truck in less than 30 seconds and be ready to play. It also tears down is the same amount of time. I'm telling you as a musician of over 40 years, this is a game changer for solo or duo musicians that don't have a full band. I forgot to add, you can LINK two R24s together for a total of 48 track playback and 16 track simultaneous record. It links through a USB B cable. It also has drum patterns and pads that can be assigned as triggers. It also allows you to connect it to a computer and can be used as either a sound I/O or file transfer to and from the computer. Trust me, this is ALL YOU NEED for backing tracks.

[@brianbauer3148]

I've noticed on Behringer x32s that the main stereo output has cross talk. I've also noticed a quality shift when you link channels but haven't dug deeper. I wouldn't be surprised if some devices with stereo channels bleed from one too another. If it's possible maybe try making sure the channels are set to mono. I've also noticed in Shure psm900s in mix mode.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I need to investigate cross talk more. I just don’t have a problem with it…

[@mystiqueofficialdotcom]

Another INCREDIBLE backing track video! Thank you for the valuable information. Yes, it's true that the CYMATIC AUDIO LP-16 is discontinued but it is also true that now the device is even more sought after and the prices have gone up for them. Many world touring bands are using them. MANY IEM rigs on KZbin are using them. KAMELOT uses the Cymatic Audio uTrack24. I think your audience (and myself) would LOVE to see you do a full review on either Cymatic device. I also think you (Scott Uhl) would enjoy the Cymatic device. Thank you for your time and consideration. Love your Spiral Cell music and the mask of course!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! I appreciate it, and thanks for checking out Spiral Cell :) I think the B Beat is the better option since the company is still around. That’s cool that Kamelot is still using it though! But I likely wouldn’t be able to review a product that is hard to find/buy now. I appreciate the suggestion 🤘

[@konniedjent]

I'm glad that somebody made a video like this, really helpful !!! I'm wondering though, because I have a Focusrite 18i8 1st gen and I want to run backing tracks from my laptop (running reaper) what are the things I have to do in order to make it work ?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And using the steps I go over in this video will be the same idea, just have to route the outputs in reaper

[@TShawnHardy]

Hey Scott, you have lots of great videos that are helping my bass player and I . We are doing a two man band with backing tracks I made, to make us sound like a full band. It's kind of a half and half thing with the drums, keys and harmonies I sung on one backing track while we do the main vocal, guitar and bass live. Right now we are using the whole dmxis thing with show buddy but we're looking at ditching the pc somehow. Right now show buddy is sending out the midi commands to the XR18 along with controlling my HX stomp Xl. No more dancing for me lol It's obviously controlling the lights as well. The bass player has all the lights pre programmed to each song. So now with wanting to ditch the PC, we are thinking we should be able to save what we got done in Show buddy as midi files and somehow put it on a device that can still control everything instead of the PC. We seen your vid on the Bbeat and that's definitely an option but we're also looking at controlling it all with our tablets. Unfortunately we only have android tablets so we'll have to chose another option rather than stage traxx. Maybe something like Stage Assistant, might do the job. We also have the Boss RC 10r for throwing the backing tracks on when playing a set somewhere with a house system but I'm not sure how much that can help for what we eventually want. Anyway, we'll figure it out and your video's are a great guide with many options. Thanks again Shawn

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Glad you’ve found the channel helpful. Best of luck in your music journey 🤘 it never ends hahaha

[@TShawnHardy]

@@ScottUhlMusic True and thanks :)

[@cathykozickio284]

Do how do u get the tracks etc to the drummer and bassist.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

With in ear monitors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joLNd5uhhrmJhposi=-u57u9EBMjJEucQA

[@Schizmatizmify]

Sometimes crosstalk comes from the cable or equipment, but it can also come from having MP3s which use 'joint stereo'! Check in your DAW if this is enabled on export, disabling it might help solve the problem for any who are having it :)

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Interesting! I haven’t heard of that. Thanks for sharing

[@andyacoustic8096]

Hi Scott. I've got a question about in ear monitoring. What if you wanted click track/backing track and other singers in your in ear phones?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I would watch these two videos of mine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaGTpYR5m92tjcksi=YiUNzoj_mH3Bk30R kzbin.info/www/bejne/joLNd5uhhrmJhposi=kTzniVzJklYsWlZJ

[@basketoffarts9852]

This was super helpful going with option one

[@Frankisoul]

Scott I know ultimately mono fits pretty much all applications but I have a question. When you export from the DAW do you export it as one stereo file with the click and tracks panned to opposite sides? Or do you export one mono file?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Definitely export as a stereo file 👍

[@LolMahmood]

Interested to hear whether you prefer a standalone device like the B.Beat to an Ipad. I've tried Stagetraxx 3 from my ipad pro and had a few issues now and then. The worst was the USB C to audio adaptor developing a fault 3 songs into a show (luckily i had a spare). I've just bought a B.Beat 128gb to try for my next few gigs.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Both are definitely great options! There is no right or wrong answer. I do like stage Traxx for cover stuff and ableton for my original music. But I’m trying to upgrade to BBeat possibly

[@LolMahmood]

@ScottUhlMusic , mine is all original material. I don't fancy having my macbook on stage at all, because I t3nd to run around a lot and I'm always playing scuzzy little places with tiny stages. The ipad is worth as much as the mac, but it's in a decent case and a bit more robust. The B.Beat looks like the perfect solution interms of multiple outputs, fewer adapters to break, and it's smaller, probably less fragile and definitely much cheaper than my apple stuff if it gets damaged.

[@bradhorne6552]

Hey Scott Where do you send your instruments that you play? FOH or through the mixer with the click/backing track then to front of house?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I use karaoke version personally

[@arthuralexander4687]

Crosstalk can actually happen if one(or more) tracks are clipping. We used to hear the click in the mains while it was only sending signal to aux output. Turned out that was the problem.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Oh interesting! I did not know that. Thank you for sharing! I’ll need to do a video on it for sure once I find out more

[@arthuralexander4687]

@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks to you man! 🤘

[@aleksandergrzybowski8899]

@ScottUhlMusic please do! I actually just right now tried to reproduce this, played click track from my phone to Behringer audio interface, left = click, right = nothing, but even with all gains and outputs possible maxed out, no click in right channel. Surely it depends on playback device too? I recall one gig where we had this exact problem, bass recording had noticeable (when soloed) click sound burned into it. Still wondering how that happened, maybe something wrong with cabling there.

[@brettrodkey8881]

Thank you. Awesome video. If you are you are using the splitter method, can you set the tracks so that you can have minimal space between them when performing live?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! What do you mean minimal space? You mean between songs? Yeah, just stop the track at the end when mixing it down and don’t leave a bunch of space after the song is over

[@christianclark8530]

Hi Scott, this is a really good video and very informative and user friendly. PLEASE can you help with either a video or a description of how I can do the following; I am a guitarist and vocalist, and I have a drummer and a bassist - I have written lots of music that I want to play live - we have backing tracks that comprise of keyboards, rhythm guitar and backing vocals - we need a click track as we are basically playing along to a song - I purchased a budget IEM so all of us can use it. What is the set up and what accessories do I need to buy - we use logic and GarageBand - I have a MacBook . Do I come out of the Mac and use the splitter and Di still? Where does the IEM box fit in? What do I need to get to make this work - simply and on a budget? Thank you for any advice 🙏

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! Glad you’ve enjoyed the videos. So THIS video should answer those questions for you. Like I mentioned in the video, the iPad represents what is controlling the backing tracks (can be a tablet, phone, or laptop). The direct box represents where I’m sending the TRACKS signal to, and the Headphone amp is where I’m routing the CLICK signal to. Yours might be different but the idea is the same. If you need help setting up an IEM rack, this video should help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joLNd5uhhrmJhposi=VC8vgBWkCSnNn2-D

[@christianclark8530]

@@ScottUhlMusic thanks again - I will watch again and check out the other vid - all the best

[@Aquafox_music]

THANK YOU for this, seriously!! Ok this might be a stupid question but, where did you get that click sound? Its nice and clear but not too obnoxious. I use the logic metronome as click and it always gets lost in the mix.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And a former band mate had that for me, can’t remember how he made it

[@sebastianburstein7917]

Hey Scott! Thanks for your videos I really have learned a lot. I was wondering if you could help me understand what equipment should be used to send the backing tracks and instruments to the FOH (Front of House, referring to the main soundboard) without latency. Should the stems of the backing tracks be sent through a DAW with an audio interface? How can you match the latency between the stems of the backing tracks that are sent through output to the PA (main sound system) and the live-played instruments sent via input to another output of the interface with activated VSTs (for example, backing tracks sent through 2 outputs of the interface and instruments played through the inputs like guitars, bass, or even microphone processed and sent to another output of the interface with VSTs of the DAW activated)?​⁠ Also, can the vocals be processed too via input of the interface with VSTs activated to be sent via output to the PA without latency or feedback at the venue? Sorry for the long question! Thanks for your help, and I’ll keep watching your videos! 🙌🏻

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Outputting shouldn’t be a problem with latency, that should be pretty simple, and computers don’t have a problem playing audio. It’s when you start adding a lot of plugins that you just need to make sure you have a strong enough computer to handle all of that with minimal latency and more importantly, that it doesn’t crash because of overloading it 👍

[@hca8174]

So clear and helpful! Thank you

[@BironYoston]

I have backing tracks for various songs. I'm looking for a way, while I'm on stage, to select an individual songs backing track and play it and synchronize it to the lyrics of the song.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Check out my videos on stage Traxx 3 👍

[@parthmaru4797]

Wudnt it make more sense to have a nice mixed track (with synths n things panned as per our taste) n sending it to channel 1/2 on output audio interface n sending cues n click track on channel 3/4 and running the whole thing on logic or mainstage itself?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

You can do either 👍 there is no right or wrong, just what works for you

[@therewatchlivestream5321]

Great video! Question, my band currently uses the single file set up. I usually build the set in my DAW and just hit play at the beginning of the set and stop at the end. We are thinking of moving away from DAW/computer setup to make the sets a little more free flowing. We use an iPad with multitracker for practices. I was wondering if you would recommend using a Bluetooth transmitter connected to the iPad, then hardwired to the mixer, to run tracks. I'm the guitar player and would be controlling the multitracker app from the iPad connected to my mic stand and am just looking to eliminate another cable on the ground.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And you can do that for sure. There is a risk with doing it wirelessly or Bluetooth that they could cut out, that’s possible… as long as you accept that risk. But I do think that laptop is overkill for just doing a single file method without any midi or lighting, etc. definitely will make your life easier 🤘

[@bkiesz]

Wow.. i stumbled onto your channel a week or so ago and just love it. I like your delivery as it's very well thought out and concise. As play in a weekend cover band and I'm the 'dead weight' in the band since all I do is sing. But hey, I can hump gear in and out of gigs so there's that. I also use an iPad so there's that too. I've always wanted to run backing track but my guys are not there yet. Maybe someday.!! My question is how to do you queue up the songs on stage. So you use StageTraxx? I'm using BandHelper at the moment for my cheat sheet. That has all the MIDI stuff, stores files, etc. Maybe you could point me to a video that kind of shows this in action.. Or create a video showing how you do this in your 90's covers band since It doesn't appear that you use a setlist! thanks again for an awesome channel.. Make me wish I would have listened to my father and taken guitar and bass lessons from him when I was young! In hindsight, I'm such a dumbass! LOL

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks man! And yeah I use stage Traxx. We don’t go in with a specific setlist, and kind of just feel out the crowd. I have a “hits” playlist and “all songs” playlist… so if we need to keep the crowd going I’ll just add a song from the hits. It’s a little tough to do while playing guitar but I’ve got it down now haha. We also have a talkback mic for our singer so he can tell me to add a song into the queue 👍

[@bkiesz]

@@ScottUhlMusic I get it.. Basically in StageTraxx, you have everything attached to that song entry; lyrics, charts, etc, along with the MP3. Then when you're ready to kick off a song, you push play. So as not to bring too much attention to yourself and the iPad, do you trigger it with a bluetooth foot pedal or do you fumble with the iPad? I personally use a BT footpedal, trying not to touch my iPad with the hopes that it just blends in with all the rest of the gear and stands, etc on stage.

[@chucksaeger7500]

Excellent as usual! How you find the time to do all this is beyond me. I have a dumb question; how do I get to your KZbin channel? I’m subscribed but don’t get any notifications about new videos and I just want to see your videos. Thanks for everything you do.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks Chuck! You should be able to see subscriptions under the subscription tab on KZbin. You can also ring the bell to be notified when I put out new videos 🤘

[@chucksaeger7500]

Thanks so much. I did like you said and saw video after video and they were all yours. Where do you find the time dude?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks man, I appreciate it. Especially now for the summer where I have a ton of gigs (10 days in a row just last week), makes it tough. That’s why I dropped to 1 video a week instead of 2 for now 😅

[@jdubz1209]

Can you send multi track stems to different outputs in Studio one as well or only in ableton?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup, basically any DAW should be able to do this. Never used Studio One but you very very likely will be able to 👍

[@marcelotrujillo6574]

Hi!!! I'm using the L and R approach to route the click and the musical track. The issue is that in same parts of the song I can hear the click coming out from the main speakers. I've double checked the panning in the file and it's 100% to the Left the click and 100% to the right for the backing track. I'm using AUDACITY as an editing tool for the files. Any piece of advice would be appreciated. You rock with these videos. Cheers!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Man, I really need to research this because I hear this a lot. But check the cable and check to make sure the plugins are not on the files or anything like that (although im not sure audacity has it)… that’s my best advice I have for it until I look into it further because I don’t have this problem

[@marcelotrujillo6574]

@@ScottUhlMusic hi Scott I got the answer!!! Why there is cross taking on a backing track file with the click panned to the opposite side of the instruments?? Drum roll🥁. It's the quality of the sound card in the device.. Example Apple devices no problem. Some Samsung devices - low end modules- you will have issues. Same with tables... it's not your editing tool like protocols or audacity. It's the device! Please guys send your comments Thanks a lot!!! Cheers from Hollywood CA.

[@cathykozickio284]

Ok I have the iPad, Track Rig, and the app for the iPad. So your thought how I send the tracks to the drummer and keyboard player.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That would be with in ear monitors 👍

[@matiasmarzialetti1683]

Hi, is there any chance to use the single file method, but hear some of the tracks in the clic/cues channel for just monitoring proposes? Thank you so much, this is so helpful!!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah, you can do that 👍 either by mixing your IEMs as such, or pan the tracks centered (just make sure the levels are good)

[@ibanezguitars360]

So im looking at the first method with a slight variation. Instead of going to the headphone amp we have a small mixer and using a laptop instead of an ipad. So will the drummer hear both the clicks and the tracks in their ears? or just the click. Srry for commenting so much on your stuff. Ive just been reallly loving your channel and learning as much as possible.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

It depends on what you route to the drummer, that’s what matters. But using a splitter cable will make that easy. Hope that helps, and thanks for following the channel!

[@irrfard4700]

Great video. Need to clearify this, though. I have a Mac book pro. Shall I connect my computer to my interface with both a usb-c and a 3,5 mm/split cable?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

For a computer? Likely you just go into your interface

[@irrfard4700]

Ok, thanks. So I only need to connect my computer to the interface with a USB-c cable?

[@irrfard4700]

Is the other option (3,5 mm) to a directbox?

[@TopblokeGolf]

So I’m guessing you could use a soundcraft signature 12 and control separate tracks with the faders thru usb although the overall output will be stereo

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I haven’t used that product, so I’m not sure

[@HaroldCole-q4r]

Hey Scott love the videos ,learned a lot. I have a xr18 mixer and mixing station, and would like to use a Korg nanokantrol2 ,that I am trying to use only for fader control, any insight would be appreciated,,thanks

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah you definitely can. Xr18 can be controlled with midi 👍

[@rattnroll1989]

You are so good at this in depth teaching. Quick question, how much memory do I need on an iPad for the Stage Traxx app.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And it depends on how many songs you end up putting on it. I have 300+ songs and I think mine takes up around 20gigs now

[@rattnroll1989]

@@ScottUhlMusic I am 52 years old and starting to play in a band again after about a 30 year hiatus because of family. Starting out and learning all this stuff that is available now is overwhelming and you really help break this all down and make me fell like I can do this technical stuff. You are appreciated