What is the Church of God Mountain Assembly?

[@IgnitedCoyote]

Can't tell you how much the hard work and research you put in these videos is appreciated. You've created a video encyclopedia of Christian denominations and I use it often. Thank you!

[@PhirePhlame]

Every time you post one of these, I find out about another denom I never knew existed

[@KennyBare]

Creating false demons is just as bad as creating false gods

[@redsscore]

this one is no good... a group of men took over a few years ago and started taking monies out of church accounts for there own personal use. a couple of videos are on youtube with hours of undercover audio recordings

[@cliftCChord1957]

Thank you for putting this video on, I can see the time and effort you spend to do the research and give accurate information on the history and current church. In the process of watching this video I found another one by the same name (church of god mountain assembly a new beginning). With the information you give about the church, and this other video, you can feel the betrayal by the leadership to the members that they work for. Thevbackstory you give really helps me understand what is being said in that other video. Do you know the people that made the new beginnings vidoes? I tried contacting them but I can’t find any links. Thanks again for another outstanding video!!!!

[@questionableavocado]

the fact that they had to say "please don't handle snakes during service" makes me feel there's something more to it....

[@Zundfolge]

There was a time when snake handling among Pentecostal, Holiness and other Charismatic churches was a fad. Then it started to fall out of favor (because people died) and there was a huge controversy in the 60s and 70s (IIRC) among Pentecostals whether the practice should continue. So a lot of them started putting this kind of thing in their documents to show clearly which side they came down on.

[@TurtleMarcus]

Mark 16:18-19 says: "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; *they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them*; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." Some Pentecostals read this literalistically, and would handle snakes without getting harmed to prove their faith. They did see the other signs mentioned in Mark 16, so why not snake handling? Most Pentecostals did not think this was a good idea, and rightfully so. On a side note, many Bible commentaries believe the snake in Mark 16:18 is a reference to the episode described in Acts 28:1-6, where Paul is bitten by a snake but doesn't die.

[@benjaminbrockway5998]

​@@TurtleMarcusThese types need to remember what Christ quoted from Deuteronomy: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

[@questionableavocado]

@@Zundfolge ah, i see! i remember reading about a church where the pastor died from handling a venomous snake in the last few decades, and now it all makes sense [not really, but as much as it can be]. thank you!

[@questionableavocado]

@@TurtleMarcus that is absolutely wack for lack of better words. thank you for the explanation! i feel like handling snakes, especially venomous ones, is best left to those with the equipments and common sense to respect them.

[@franklynangie5281]

You've now done a denomination that I am very familiar with. Our denomination (the International Pentecostal Church of Christ) has had a close relationship with them for decades. Others we closely associate with are the Pentecostal Free Will Baptist and Congregational Holiness. Of course we also fellowship with Pentecostal Holiness, Church of God (Cleveland) and the Assemblies of God. I'm glad you got to one of the smaller and more regional Pentecostal groups.

[@redsscore]

did you see the videos about the minister inside the cgma?

[@franklynangie5281]

@@redsscore What videos are those? The Jay Walden song? 😂

[@redsscore]

@ yes, it does involve Jay Walden. how did you know?! money was stolen and he knew. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJOodqKPi6Z6mMk

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Thanks for sharing! I do also have a video on the Congregational Holiness Church if you haven't seen it yet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKXTZoONfLd3mbs

[@franklynangie5281]

@@redsscore The part about the money I didn't know about, but I will find out. Was it while he was Missions Director or Overseer?

[@BramptonAnglican]

Thank you for teaching us about them.

[@georgehayden4897]

Do an episode on Church of God of Union Assembly

[@evekiser3732]

Yes,I grew up in this Cult ,it's still a demonic religion! The book that was written about it the religion of fear the true story of the Church of God of the Union assembly is absolutely spot-on truth

[@Ree7828]

YES! I was raised in that cult!

[@jameshopkins7507]

I am wondering what the scriptural basis of substituting grape juice for wine in the Lord's Supper cup is. If I understand the Bible correctly, Jesus used wine so why would it be prohibited?

[@KennyBare]

A lot of evangelical churches have converted alcoholics and helped them turn from their destructive ways and even a small amount of alcohol could lead to relapse.

[@thomas-xj1hs]

Wine only for the Eucharist; juice is not scriptural...

[@TurtleMarcus]

The question is rather: is alcohol content necessary for a grape juice drink to be considered "fruit of the vine" or "wine"? Or does Biblical norms accommodate for "wine" to be non-alcoholic or low-alcoholic? I think an honest case can be made for saying that alcohol is optional to the nature of the drink but the grape is essential, just as yeast is optional to the nature of the bread but the flour is essential (i.e. leavened or unleavened bread).

[@JRBWare1942]

Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.(Proverbs 20:1) Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: for the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags. (Proverbs 23:20-21) Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them! (Isaiah 5:11) Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink. (Isaiah 5:22) And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit. (Ephesians 5:18)

[@Zundfolge]

Many of the churches that use grape juice were on the rise during a time where alcoholism was rampant (for example in the 18th Century, Methodists were gaining in popularity at a time when possibly as high as 80% of the British population were severe alcoholics). That's when the whole temperance movement really got started. This is why some denominations are "teetotalers". The feeling at the time is that alcohol does so much damage to society that not even a single drop of it was worth the risk. Now its become tradition and too many Christians treat tradition as dogma.

[@kevanhubbard9673]

Never heard of that church!I take it the mountains in question are the Appalachians or at least part of said range.They don't sound like a particularly radical outfit.

[@SuperTommox]

I'm never been in America, but I wonder: If i were to travel all across it on a straight line, how many denominations would I find?

[@thomas-xj1hs]

All sects

[@HamburgerRabbit]

The longer you spend and the more you travel, the more you’ll see. Some denominations are more concentrated in specific areas so if you don’t go to those areas you might not see them. If you go to Georgia, you probably won’t see a WELS church for example.

[@rspeak5768]

If you were to travel across America in a straight line, you would likely be shot for trespassing before you had a chance to encounter too many denominations. But probably a bunch, depending on where you did it

[@ritadyer9295]

Too many to count. And even the same denominations tend to have their own ways and rules separate from whatever organization they are under. It’s a mess. Lots of non denominational churches too. I haven’t found one that uses expository preaching in my area of the south.

[@jarrynorme801]

Thank you so much for doing this video based on the denomination I was previously a part of and had recommended to you! Btw, I know Pastor Ken Ellis personally and am good friends with his granddaughter, Rev. Halle Borjas!

[@ReadyToHarvest]

You are welcome, Jarryn!

[@redsscore]

did you see the videos about the missing money? I think the name of them are church of god mountain assembly a new beginning. there are 5 or 6 and are a little long but its incredible to listen to

[@Drollls]

Erm... what the CGMA

[@redsscore]

if you want to see whats going on inside of this church look at the undercover videos under the same name. (mountain assembly a new beginning) . a total of of 6 videos. you will be angry at the end, i promise.

[@HosmerEmporium]

I've never heard of this denomination so I can only assume they're not that massive...but you know what is massive? Ninja getting a Low Taper Fade

[@London-Lad]

Can I ask you a serious question as a British person. This is not a jibe, an attack or me seeking any moral highground. Are there still churches within America, especially the deep south, that proactively practices segregation, either overtly or covertly? I'm not talking about churches based of the demographic of that particular community they are in either. I was talking to a Roman Catholic priest back in 2023 who acknowledged that racial segregation is still a thing in some, very few churches in America. If this is true, can you please tell me of which denominations do these churches belong to? Thank you.

[@craigbenz4835]

There aren't any churches segregated by policy that I'm specifically aware of, but most ARE self-segregated.

[@JRBWare1942]

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some, but you used the word "covert," and that's the key here--thus, I can't name you any.

[@JohnnyRep-u4e]

There are many reasons for segregation. My dad's parents went to a Polish speaking Catholic church, and many Lutheran churches in the area started out as Finnish, Swedish, etc, speaking. In this case, immigrants gathered together. There are still Korean speaking Presbyterian and Baptist congregations. I'd say the biggest segregator, now, is the demographics of where you live. There are denominations that are "historically black", mostly concentrated in the South: The African Methodist Episcopal Church, and African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church, as well as several Baptist denominations. The Largest Pentecostal denomination in the United States is also "historically black": The Church of God in Christ. Most whites in these denominations tend to be in inter-racial relationships.

[@London-Lad]

Thanks for the replies 👍🏽

[@coolandhip_7596]

I grew up in and live in Kentucky (upper south) and from my experience there is definitely a little self segregation, but I have never seen a church that actively segregates or would turn someone away because of their color. The area I'm from is maybe 75% white, so most churches were majority white, but most I'd been to had black, hispanic, or Asian members. There were a few historic black churches in town which were still majority black. We had a few churches that held spanish services, so those were obviously majority recent hispanic immigrants. Generally active church goers are some of the least racially intolerant people around. Most of the (few) racist folks I've known have been non church going nominal Christians that treat "christian" like a social identifier instead of a way of life.

[@guyparker1749]

Anybody old enough to remember the old ringer cloths washing machine,,they always needed a second rinse..As a Baptism..how did they keep up..?

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Incorporated?

[@JRBWare1942]

Forty-nine of the fifty American states require churches to be incorporated because a corporation is a creature of the state--thus, they've found a way for the government to control the churches. You can thank LBJ for that.

[@Zundfolge]

Most churches in the US are because its necessary to get a 501 C (3) tax exempt status.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

@Zundfolge But it's tacky to put it into the name.

[@MikeV8652]

@@Zundfolge Specifically, the IRS requires being "organized" under state law. A few states (like Texas) have laws that allow do-it-yourself organization of nonprofits, without incorporation or any papers filed, and still be able to own property, have limited liability, and apply to the IRS for 501(c)(3) tax exemption. (I'm secretary of an unincorporated Texas nonprofit organization with all of that.) In most states, incorporation is necessary for property ownership. A few states have laws allowing bishops of hierarchical denominations to serve as "corporations sole" (corporations of one) to hold diocese property.

[@RobertL.Peters007]

@@MikeV8652 The idea for all churches to be incorporated was the brainchild of Lyndon Johnson in the 1950's, when he was a senator. He didn't like the fact that preachers said not to vote for him because he was an adulterer. Therefore, he came up with the idea that all churches needed to be 501(c)(3) corporations, selling the idea that it would protect the tax-exempt status of churches-as if that status was being threatened. Johnson realized that corporations are creations of the state-therefore, the state can control them. The move was really to silence churches from weighing in on political matters-despite the fact that that was an American tradition going back to the 1600’s. So who do you believe is the head of the church-the state or God?

[@robmullin1128]

I grew up in the Pilgrim Holiness denomination which is in the holiness movement.

[@KingoftheJuice18]

"John, we have to ask you to leave the church...Yes, yes, we know you contributed $20,000 last year, but we don't think you really did it 'cheerfully'. It's right there on our website: 'contribute cheerfully.' Sorry."

[@MikeV8652]

See 2 Corinthians 9 : 7 for the scripture about giving cheerfully.

[@AnthonySmith-u2r]

Pls cover the SDARM if you have'nt

[@edwardkuenzi5751]

It's a bad sign when you have to clarify that you don't approve of the handling of serpents.

[@JohnnyRep-u4e]

I would say that it has more to do with where their history might fit into a historical regional controversy, and I pay it no mind.

[@Knight_Boxx]

How is it possible to have so many different denominations?

[@inwyrdn3691]

If you read the Bible without the inherent concepts people have injected, you learn something interesting - there is no true boundary, no dividing line between what is and is not acceptable. Mystery religions from Greece, Rome, etc had these barriers - cross this line, you're out. Follow these standards and be accepted, you're in. Christianity and Islam do not have these, leading to no fundamental way to say this person is or this person is not a member. There are no wrong denominations, because every group can find a basis for their beliefs, and no group can find an actual hard and fast "No" for anything.

[@SGOV86]

I have been asking myself the same thing. And thanks tomthis channel I am discovering more denominations which I was never aware of.

[@MondernMan]

It was inevitable once the reformation was started as there was no more centralized theology in the west. Acts and the epistles talk about splintering as well.

[@Zundfolge]

How is it possible not to? Just spend five minutes reading online discussions and debates on theological issues from members of the same church even and you begin to wonder how any church ever gets organized enough to build a building and has more than a dozen or so members each.

[@MikeV8652]

Freedom of religion, of course! Do you somehow expect that some authority should be able to tell people with differing beliefs that they can't freely associate into a denomination that is satisfactory to them? To whom do you propose to give such power? We rejected that thinking in the American Revolution.

[@SamWicker-su7rp]

Well, little brother, it seems you found a way to make KOC interesting, thanks, its dry as death valley at high noon 😉

[@peaches2217]

The fact that they publish the exact dollar amount each minister tithes… 😬😬😬

[@freespeech4all757]

Yeah, that one got me too. To anyone with rudimentary math skills, it would be easy to determine each minister's income. Needless to say, I think that sort of private info should not be made public

[@JohnnyRep-u4e]

Transparency.

[@redsscore]

for some.... but others are allowed to be criminals and steal monies, then cook the books. it will stock anyone who sees the video and audio about this organization and what they did to one of there own...the youtube channel is called (Jellico2005)

[@messengerisrael3817]

THE CHURCH IS THE COVENANT BETWEEN THE FATHER AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL , THE ONLY NATION THAT HAST GONE INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM TO KEEP HIS LAWS ; WITH JESUS CHRIST BEING THE MEDIATOR , HUSBAND , AND HEAD OF THE CHURCH . SHALOM !

[@francisthegreat4064]

Please try profiling the denomination Kingdom of Jesus Christ.

[@dbach1025]

Where in the Bible is the sinner's prayer? As someone who was raised in a IFB church, the sinner's prayer was called fire insurance, in case you feel like you did not get saved when you prayed it the first 5 times. My sister prayed it many times; however, she denies Christ. as she converted to Judaism. No, she was not saved and then lost it. The Holy Spirit moving in one's heart is the only way one can be saved due to man's inherent depravity. A lost person cannot just say "I will get saved today". And no, I am not a 5 point Calvinist/Reformed, but the depravity of man at birth is scripturally sound.

[@CalvinistfemboyPatata89]

5:28 Best thing i heard today Imagine using snakes in the cult 😂 🐍🐍

[@gabrielfaure9091]

Don’t they sound fun

[@BarBell-tg9vr]

CGMA male

[@TurtleMarcus]

Bible-pilled, Holiness-maxxing

[@thomas-xj1hs]

Oh dear. Another sect...

[@HamburgerRabbit]

The host keep coming

[@chrisray9653]

Oh goodie another American Baptist-with-extra-steps denomination.

[@redsscore]

and criminal... ask me how I know

[@KingoftheJuice18]

New question you don't hear much: Many Christians believe one must be perfectly righteous to go to heaven which is why only Jesus' own righteousness, in their view, will suffice to allow one to have eternal bliss. But if true, then only perfect wickedness should cause one to inherit *eternal* punishment. The punishment should fit the crime, just like the reward does. But how many people are perfectly wicked? That's almost as hard as being perfectly good! Like, you never once did anybody a favor, or said a kind word, or petted a dog?

[@MikeV8652]

Salvation cannot be earned through good works. All have sinned and come short. He who keeps the whole law but stumbles on one point is guilty of all. Our righteousness is as filthy rags. Only Jesus can save us by his grace through our faith. No one comes to the Father except through Him. After that, good works will follow. These statements are all based on scriptures.

[@KingoftheJuice18]

@@MikeV8652 Those statements don't really answer my question: If you can only be rewarded eternally by being perfectly righteous (and you say this is through Jesus), then it follows that you can only be punished eternally if you are perfectly wicked. Otherwise, God would be unjust. Because you can't be saying that everyone is completely and equally wicked regardless of how they lived their life. You can't be claiming that what we do doesn't matter in any way. I know you don't believe that because you say there are good works that matter (not to mention all those teachings by Jesus that talk about pursuing righteousness and those who inherit the kingdom of God are people who DO the will of his Father, who take care of the least of God's children, etc.).

[@MikeV8652]

@@KingoftheJuice18 Well, I've summarized what the Bible says about it, and you want to argue that it should be otherwise. I'll pray for you, but that won't fly when you stand before God and say "But, I think it should be this way instead..." What you are failing to understand is the doctrine of 'total depravity." You will find a Wiki article by that title that explains it and it's history.

[@KingoftheJuice18]

@@MikeV8652 Yes, the doctrine of "total depravity" is completely unbiblical and irrational (and by "Bible" I mean the Hebrew/Aramaic Scriptures of Israel). One might even say, fittingly, that the doctrine is depraved. But I'll give you just one example from your own sacred texts that it's wrong: "In the days of King Herod of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly order of Abijah. His wife was a descendant of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. Both of them were righteous before God, living blamelessly according to all the commandments and regulations of the Lord." -Luke 1:5-6

[@MikeV8652]

@@KingoftheJuice18 They were righteous and blameless, not because they were good, but because they were forgiven by grace through faith in the coming Messiah.

[@observantowl1726]

Sounds like a cult.

[@redsscore]

man your good, how did u know!!!! it used to be great but a few years ago the leaders started taking money and misreporting it to the banks. they even locked a minister out of his house if he did not sign his name to the lie!!!!!

[@Mein_mann]

All religions are cults